I've had 3 generations of GAMO break barrel guns all still working great and shoot awesome 👍😎 my oldest is around 12 years old and still whips ass 😆.177 Gamo hornet
The air rifle only scope thing is mostly about springer/gas ram guns having extra violent recoil both forward and back due to the internal shifting mass. Pcp guns like you have here should be fine to put any ol scope on it if you wish.
You are correct. Last week i zeroed an scope on my weihrach hw57, 12fpe springer. Tested some pellets and didn't like the results. Found out the action/stock screws werd not even tigth, new out of the box! Problem solves rigth? Tried all pellets again, every shot went lower and lower. Was thinking, i do not use a scope stop, looked at the scope and the rear ring had already slided halfway of the dovetail. Beginner mistake, was thinking a scope stop is not important on a 12fpe airgun😂
So cool to see you do this video. Big bore PCPs take air rifles to a level most people have no clue about. Some of them send .50 caliber slugs down range at over 1000 fps with muzzle energies up to 800 ft/lbs. I've been wanting an Air Force Texan for quite a while now. By the time you buy the gun and the compressor, and a decent scope you'd be into the damned thing for $2500. I know I'll talk myself into buying it some day, though. That Dragon Claw is a sweet looking gun. I believe it'll even shoot bolts. Great video.
Wow, your comment could be mine. Same, same and same, lol The Air Force Texan is a beast and every time I do the math I end up looking at "real" firearms instead. I always think about what I could get with $2500 for real firearms, ammo, etc.. Shoot, I could buy a real nice safe for that too. I'm going to eventually get the Air Force Texan or something similar, I just have to save some money and stop looking at more firearms, lol. I agree with your statement brother. I hope you get yours soon. Best of luck. 👍
Try looking for a used Korean, maybe a samyang like in this video. Or a Shin Sung, were the samyangs(air venturi/senecas) are copies from. They are old, but built to last, the barrels love everything you out in it, mechanically it's really simple, easy to tune, all parts are easy to (have) machine(d)=cheap spare parts. Shin sung dragon=.50 Shin Sung fire= .357 There are more models, even lever action 9mm repeaters. Shin sungs are pretty cheap in the usa of you can locate them. People rather buy a new Seneca/Sam yang because they think they are better quality. The quality of an older shin sung is wat better. I have 20+ years old ones with zlero issues besides o rings changed. They can be power tuned without hazard. Do not power tune a Sam yang without replacing the cocking lever and the sliding thing over the barrel to load!! The cocking lever snaps often when power tuned and the sliding thingy exploded when power tuned!
Since those are cast round balls, they have a sprue cut on them. To get the best accuracy, you need to place the balls into the chamber with the cut oriented the same way each time. I think the best results will be obtained by placing the sprue cut to the rear so that your thumb can feel the cut as you push it into the chamber. Consistency will definitely help accuracy.
I can't wait to see the 1000yd test. 🙂 With playing with different bullets I bet it does well at 100. I have a 177 gamo that has taken a lot of tree rats from the deer stand.
Enjoyed watching your son take the turkey! It's a great joy watching one's children take their first game. I'm a part time taxidermist and mounted my young 'uns first deer.
I got my first PCP about 18 months ago. Started casting my own slugs after I got my first big bore. You can purchase pure lead from Roto Metals and have delivered in a few days. I'm casting .308 slugs for $.03 - $.05 per slug. Of course 50 cal or 45 cal will run a little more. I also cast from Wheel Weights for almost free. Air Gunning has been a bunch of fun! My primers and powder are staying on the shelf! Great video!
PCP air rifles don't beat up scopes. You can put about anything on top of them. Break barrels and under levers, on the other hand, can shake a scope apart.
Definitely got to get you on a Springer or gas piston break barrel like one of the Gammos that has a magazine feeder. It's an inexpensive, 10 shot magazine fed break barrel in .177 or 22 caliber and take that sucker squirrlin. It's a whole different style of shooting called an artillary grip. Instead of a firm hold and easy release of the trigger you have to hold the gun loose at it's balance point, pull the trigger and let the rifle do what it's gonna do. Springers are the reason you need an air rifle scope, not the pcp rifle like the Dragon Claw. The PCP just lets the pressure go and that shoots the pellet. Springers throw a ram forward and that creates the air pressure that forces the pellet out of the barrel. So you have this big ram shooting forward, slamming to a halt with air pressure and while it's reversing direction and going back the pellet is accelerating down the barrel and the gyrations caused by all of that are uncontrollable. Thing is, if you hold it the same way every time the rifle will go through all the same commotions the same way every time and the pellet will go to same way every time . You adjust the aim for where it hits AND it hits there every time (not accounting for wind). The magazine fed portion makes videos easier for you as it's as simple as cocking the rifle and you go. Almost lever gun fast. Because you pump the air into it when you load the barrel, you don't have to keep a tank of air with you. Makes it a good truck gun. It'll ride around back there with no worries for you till you need it. See some game or pest that is 22 cal size just pull the rifle out, cock it and sling it. And it's a pellet gun so most places there's no licensing/background check. Last tin of 500 pellets I bought cost me round 20 bucks. Even cheaper in .177 caliber which will take rabbits, squirrel and vermin. A whole lot of plinkin for next to nothing.
Black Powder "marksman" here.. (i.e. I can shoot). Those round balls are pretty badly uneven. If you were to weigh any on a decent scale you would find a substantial difference in weight between them. Try some quality .50 call balls made for black powder shooters. Your groups will improve markedly. Once again, those rounds you have horrible 'sprue' marks making them uneven as hell.
I'm fairly new to black powder shooting, but I noticed the same thing. Those round balls for the air gun are really bad quality, they wouldn't come within ten feet of any of my black powder firearms. I'd be worried that the sprue marks and off center weight distribution would mess up my barrel even through the patch. I can't imagine that they'd be good for an air gun either.
Nielsen Specialty Ammo makes some of the best most consistent air gun ammo. When I first got into air guns, I purchased one of the brands at the store and they were very inconsistent in weight. They also were made from an alloy that was harder than lead which prevented a good seal between the rifling and ammo.
Love your videos I'm in Australia so we are limited to our bang sticks but I always learn alot I'm wondering if you could do a review on 25-06 as I'm thinking about getting one for dingos at a longer range then I can hit clean with my .223 cheers
@@WHOTEEWHO I found it bro just watched it I'm now torn up between a 22-250 and a 25-06 they both look good what one would you recommend for dingos and boars 500-700 yards
@@liamspiers6879 you could buy both and have the 22.250 set up with a thermal for a night rifle. and try to get as close as you can P.S if you buy 25.06 you may have issues trying to get ammo in Australian rural gun stores i read in a Australian shooting magazine a long time ago about how you can pick up 308 and 223 no problems in rural gun stores but ask for 25.06 and you will get a blank stare. some rifle calibres are popular in Australia others not so much.
@@will13434 I found that out today mate I was in the outpost and tried to get a 25-06 couldn't find me one so I settled for a 22-250 plenty of ammo avail just a tad expensive but good long range rifle I pick it up next week after the permit to acquire is accepted pretty expensive I wish silencers were legal here in Oz as they said it's a very loud rifle
1/2 ";is the standard for small bore airguns. Shoot that group again. Note fill pressure where poi started on 2nd shot. Fill to that pressure. Don't exceed 3000 psi unless you wanna change seals sooner. Shoot it more and often and it will shoot better Big Daddy.
Indiana and Kentucky now allow air guns that meet minimum requirements for deer season. Indiana must be .40 caliber min with at least 400 ft lbs energy, Kentucky is .35 caliber min that must be charged with an external tank and expanding projectile but no stated min ft lbs of energy. The air rifles have sure come a long way since the 5mm Sheridan Blue Streak when I was a kid!
Time to take it to 100 yds! Might even try "poor man" tethering. Fill your big bottle up the same pressure that your rifle uses then connect it to the rifle, open the tank valve and leave it open. The rifle will pull air from your large tank as you shoot. It will keep your shots much more consistent when shooting at distance. Just make sure you don't have your big tank filled to a higher pressure than the gun will take. I would expect doing the poor man tether will maybe get you 30-50 pretty constant shots. Maybe more than that even depending on how the rifle uses it's air. If you want to get a real tethering rig look up Huma in-line regulators. They allow you to connect to 4500 psi tank and reduce the pressure to a safe level for the rifle. Of course this is for bench rest style shooting. if go this route, my make find you have an accuracy node at less pressure than the rifle's max fill. example: your group you shot, think the first shot was high then the group settled down and started grouping tighter. You might find that lowering your fill pressure by 100-200 psi gives tighter grouping. That's one method of tuning the accuracy of a non-regulated rifle. keep the videos coming!!
The round balls made for black powder are hard cast, airguns do not like hard cast. I have used them, but use soft cast now. I buy them from a guy who knows how to make them. He has made a control on his Lee pot, constant themp=constant weigth and size, and he thumbles the sprue of. I can't duplicate the quality he makes. I use them in 9mm. Soft cast flattens like a pancake, the harder lead punches to 4 inches of pine in 1 of my airguns.
The round balls are pretty rough looking ammo...still a decent group...once you get into some higher quality ammo, your groups will tighten up and be more consistent
You'll never get a really tight group with the ball ammo the manufacturing process leaves imperfections on the surface which leads to air resistance affecting the projectile
Hey Brother, I am getting into air rifles as well. If you want some same hole accuracy, look into Dynamic air rifles. They are literally same hole accurate. I put a Hawke 39 by 50mm. It is a joy to shoot. I have only shot out to 100yards once. With a crap scope was getting 2.5 inches at a 100.
You effectively have a big bore close range hunting rifle and the fastest crossbow in the world in one package. When you look at it like that this airgun is a steal at the price you get it at. And I haven't found it any cheaper than pyramid air and with the price of the gun shipping's free. Winner winner. Plus it would give me a reason to turn on my lead pot and get to cooking up some next to free rounds since I got a couple hundred pounds of free lead and molds.
Ah yes, the pressure release valve - as an avid diver, I've spent many many hours around super steels tanks being filled and then disconnected without using the bleeder valve properly. Now that sounds like a gunshot and a half 🤣
The dragon claw makes groups similar to good quality firearms. I am going to ask around if this is locally available. I heard that it is made in Korea and have several models. Thanks for the videos on this WTW !!
Air guns are fun no matter what caliber they are. Best of all they aren't bad on your hearing and you don't have to worry about picking up your brass.😁
The big bores are still pretty loud. Airforce Texans are available suppressed ('cause they're not firearms) but I still end up using earpro when I shoot mine, even with the shusher.
I have air gun versions of most of my powder burners in 4.5 mm and 6 mm. 1911s, M1 carbine (s), AKs, Colt SAA and when it comes to automatic weapons Broomhandle Mausers to ARs they make them all or at least most! Lol .....
This big bore air bing bang sure looks fun to use. Kinda reminds me of the old black powder days with round balls. Wondering if this thing can shoot the same boo lots used in 50 cal black powder with the Sabbat’s. Don’t know much at all bout these things but am enjoying learning with WTW and fans as we go. Good shooting and gods speed to the family and fans of WHO TEE WHO YA DA MAN 🎥💯👍🐉🔪
Those who informed you to use a air rifle specific scope vice a center fire rifle scope. Are absolutely correct. The recoil is completely different from a center fire. So the scope for a center fire rifle is built different from a air rifle scope. It will destroy a center fire rifle scope. Correct advice a nice firearm. You can get very easily sucked in the air rifle world... suppressors are available and you can get them easily.. hunting... precision shooting... expensive to very affordable.. easily modified . Very cool.
I thinking of getting one those air guns very useful bit of kit that I think my missus would like as she hasn’t got the muscle to cock my crossbows or my recurve bows , thanks for the vid 👍
On the last 5 shot group. On the first shot you had the charging handle forward. The last 4 the charging handle was to the rear. Not sure if that is why the first flew high or not.
A penetration test using plastic gallon water jugs would be great with this rifle using the round balls. You can use swaged lead .490 diameter 180 grain lead .50 caliber muzzle loader round balls in it too. The power is similar to shooting a .50 caliber Hawken with a patched round ball and 40 grains of 3f black powder. I noticed how you like the PCP air rifles but I stick with the break barrels because they are less likely to break and don’t need to be refilled with compressed air but I do love the power of that dragon claw and if I ever got me a PCP that’s the one I would get
You should try the high powered break barrel .25 caliber air rifles like my Hatsan 135 QE vortex .25 caliber air rifle and try the H&N brand pellets in it. The dragon claw is great for medium sized game and big game east of the rocky mtns but a high powered break barrel would make a nice plinker at up to 50 yards and a good rifle for small game as well as medium sized game like coons and possums and ground hogs and bobcats and coyotes and 200 pound wild boars
You could get yourself a .72 cal AEA zues (most powerful air rifle) or a hatsan blitz full auto or something around those lines. They would be a good time :)
Go with a .30 cal. Plenty of power for coyotes and smaller. I’ve killed rock chucks well past 200 yards and I get 70 shots not 5. However, my airguns are also 2,000 lol Check out the umarex gauntlet in .30 cal it’s the best pcp on the market for the price. You can pre order it on prymid air
Not to brag, but I’m shooting 1 hole at 50 yards and inch groups at 200 yards with both of my airguns. (Takes ALOT of work to get there) but I’m shooting .30 and .25 caliber. 30/s shooting 44g slug 980fps .25/s shooting 37g slug 970fps Both guns are getting around 65-70 shots per fill. Fx maverick sniper in .25 cal Vulcan 3 slug gun in .30 cal
Well YT did let me watch the video but not let me in the chat will try again tomorrow night 👁 Been in timeout before on other channels after a few minutes let me back in but all I did here was say hello couple time and got blocked well timeout ? Was a interesting video Who-Tee-Who thank you 👍🏻
Hey buddy, cool video. Nice group with the Seneca Dragon Claw. Now you need to order some ammunition from Neilsen Specialty Ammo. I have ordered quite a bit from him. You will be able to get some really consistent and accurate ammo, and some devastating hollow points. Tell him Ryan sent you his way.
Federally none, a few states like NJ have restrictions but for the most part you can go crazy and it’s the same with muzzle loaders you can have a no10 cap .22 parlor pistol all the way to homemade smokeless powder muzzle loading monsters... yeah smokeless muzzle loaders are a thing.
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This thing is AWESOME!!!
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I've had 3 generations of GAMO break barrel guns all still working great and shoot awesome 👍😎 my oldest is around 12 years old and still whips ass 😆.177 Gamo hornet
The air rifle only scope thing is mostly about springer/gas ram guns having extra violent recoil both forward and back due to the internal shifting mass. Pcp guns like you have here should be fine to put any ol scope on it if you wish.
This is facts!
You are correct.
Last week i zeroed an scope on my weihrach hw57, 12fpe springer.
Tested some pellets and didn't like the results.
Found out the action/stock screws werd not even tigth, new out of the box!
Problem solves rigth?
Tried all pellets again, every shot went lower and lower.
Was thinking, i do not use a scope stop, looked at the scope and the rear ring had already slided halfway of the dovetail.
Beginner mistake, was thinking a scope stop is not important on a 12fpe airgun😂
Very true, both of my airgun (pcp) scopes are high end rifle scopes
Who tee, we are just coming full circle. You can read a journal from Lewis and Clark and THEY carried TWO air rifles.
So cool to see you do this video. Big bore PCPs take air rifles to a level most people have no clue about. Some of them send .50 caliber slugs down range at over 1000 fps with muzzle energies up to 800 ft/lbs. I've been wanting an Air Force Texan for quite a while now. By the time you buy the gun and the compressor, and a decent scope you'd be into the damned thing for $2500. I know I'll talk myself into buying it some day, though. That Dragon Claw is a sweet looking gun. I believe it'll even shoot bolts. Great video.
Wow, your comment could be mine. Same, same and same, lol The Air Force Texan is a beast and every time I do the math I end up looking at "real" firearms instead. I always think about what I could get with $2500 for real firearms, ammo, etc.. Shoot, I could buy a real nice safe for that too. I'm going to eventually get the Air Force Texan or something similar, I just have to save some money and stop looking at more firearms, lol.
I agree with your statement brother. I hope you get yours soon.
Best of luck. 👍
Try looking for a used Korean, maybe a samyang like in this video. Or a Shin Sung, were the samyangs(air venturi/senecas) are copies from.
They are old, but built to last, the barrels love everything you out in it, mechanically it's really simple, easy to tune, all parts are easy to (have) machine(d)=cheap spare parts.
Shin sung dragon=.50
Shin Sung fire= .357
There are more models, even lever action 9mm repeaters.
Shin sungs are pretty cheap in the usa of you can locate them. People rather buy a new Seneca/Sam yang because they think they are better quality.
The quality of an older shin sung is wat better. I have 20+ years old ones with zlero issues besides o rings changed.
They can be power tuned without hazard.
Do not power tune a Sam yang without replacing the cocking lever and the sliding thing over the barrel to load!!
The cocking lever snaps often when power tuned and the sliding thingy exploded when power tuned!
Since those are cast round balls, they have a sprue cut on them. To get the best accuracy, you need to place the balls into the chamber with the cut oriented the same way each time. I think the best results will be obtained by placing the sprue cut to the rear so that your thumb can feel the cut as you push it into the chamber. Consistency will definitely help accuracy.
You can cast slugs for it too. Ebay has seal kits and instructions on breaking down shin sung rifles too.
Those guns have a power curve . You need to put it on the chrono and find it . Use those 3 to 5 shots for big game.
Shoot some clay blocks & some fruit with it. Or maybe paper plates 👍i wanna see how powerful she is.
Soon
Would love to see the difference of point of impact between high and low power at 50 yards.
I can't wait to see the 1000yd test. 🙂 With playing with different bullets I bet it does well at 100. I have a 177 gamo that has taken a lot of tree rats from the deer stand.
That is a powerhouse airgun ! Look forward to more test and future hunts. Thanks
I love it!
Enjoyed watching your son take the turkey! It's a great joy watching one's children take their first game. I'm a part time taxidermist and mounted my young 'uns first deer.
Awesome!
Good to see the packaging being shown I make the boxes for a lot of pyramid air’s products including the box that the ammo came in
Awesome!
From what I understand pcp and pump air rifles are ok with regular scopes. It's the break action spring air rifles to be concerned about.
I got my first PCP about 18 months ago. Started casting my own slugs after I got my first big bore. You can purchase pure lead from Roto Metals and have delivered in a few days. I'm casting .308 slugs for $.03 - $.05 per slug. Of course 50 cal or 45 cal will run a little more. I also cast from Wheel Weights for almost free. Air Gunning has been a bunch of fun! My primers and powder are staying on the shelf! Great video!
PCP air rifles don't beat up scopes. You can put about anything on top of them. Break barrels and under levers, on the other hand, can shake a scope apart.
Thanks, I wondered about this.
Love the air gun content! Keep the coming WTW!
Thanks for watching!
I am always elated when you feature airguns. Thank you ever so much
Thanks for watching!
@@WHOTEEWHO the pleasure is all mine
Definitely got to get you on a Springer or gas piston break barrel like one of the Gammos that has a magazine feeder. It's an inexpensive, 10 shot magazine fed break barrel in .177 or 22 caliber and take that sucker squirrlin. It's a whole different style of shooting called an artillary grip. Instead of a firm hold and easy release of the trigger you have to hold the gun loose at it's balance point, pull the trigger and let the rifle do what it's gonna do. Springers are the reason you need an air rifle scope, not the pcp rifle like the Dragon Claw. The PCP just lets the pressure go and that shoots the pellet. Springers throw a ram forward and that creates the air pressure that forces the pellet out of the barrel. So you have this big ram shooting forward, slamming to a halt with air pressure and while it's reversing direction and going back the pellet is accelerating down the barrel and the gyrations caused by all of that are uncontrollable. Thing is, if you hold it the same way every time the rifle will go through all the same commotions the same way every time and the pellet will go to same way every time . You adjust the aim for where it hits AND it hits there every time (not accounting for wind).
The magazine fed portion makes videos easier for you as it's as simple as cocking the rifle and you go. Almost lever gun fast.
Because you pump the air into it when you load the barrel, you don't have to keep a tank of air with you. Makes it a good truck gun. It'll ride around back there with no worries for you till you need it. See some game or pest that is 22 cal size just pull the rifle out, cock it and sling it. And it's a pellet gun so most places there's no licensing/background check. Last tin of 500 pellets I bought cost me round 20 bucks. Even cheaper in .177 caliber which will take rabbits, squirrel and vermin. A whole lot of plinkin for next to nothing.
Black Powder "marksman" here.. (i.e. I can shoot). Those round balls are pretty badly uneven. If you were to weigh any on a decent scale you would find a substantial difference in weight between them. Try some quality .50 call balls made for black powder shooters. Your groups will improve markedly. Once again, those rounds you have horrible 'sprue' marks making them uneven as hell.
I'm fairly new to black powder shooting, but I noticed the same thing. Those round balls for the air gun are really bad quality, they wouldn't come within ten feet of any of my black powder firearms. I'd be worried that the sprue marks and off center weight distribution would mess up my barrel even through the patch. I can't imagine that they'd be good for an air gun either.
Agreed 100 %, an you beat me to the comments on this
Nielsen Specialty Ammo makes some of the best most consistent air gun ammo. When I first got into air guns, I purchased one of the brands at the store and they were very inconsistent in weight. They also were made from an alloy that was harder than lead which prevented a good seal between the rifling and ammo.
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Marksman I.e I can shoot 😂😂😂😂😂🤣😂😂, you’re sad.
That's pretty cool! I'm really curious about the velocity of that thing!🇺🇲✝️🇺🇲
Love your videos I'm in Australia so we are limited to our bang sticks but I always learn alot I'm wondering if you could do a review on 25-06 as I'm thinking about getting one for dingos at a longer range then I can hit clean with my .223 cheers
I love 25-06. Already have many videos on it - even out to 1,000 yards
@@WHOTEEWHO I found it bro just watched it I'm now torn up between a 22-250 and a 25-06 they both look good what one would you recommend for dingos and boars 500-700 yards
@@liamspiers6879 that far definitely gotta go 2506
@@liamspiers6879 you could buy both and have the 22.250 set up with a thermal for a night rifle. and try to get as close as you can P.S if you buy 25.06 you may have issues trying to get ammo in Australian rural gun stores i read in a Australian shooting magazine a long time ago about how you can pick up 308 and 223 no problems in rural gun stores but ask for 25.06 and you will get a blank stare. some rifle calibres are popular in Australia others not so much.
@@will13434 I found that out today mate I was in the outpost and tried to get a 25-06 couldn't find me one so I settled for a 22-250 plenty of ammo avail just a tad expensive but good long range rifle I pick it up next week after the permit to acquire is accepted pretty expensive I wish silencers were legal here in Oz as they said it's a very loud rifle
1/2 ";is the standard for small bore airguns. Shoot that group again. Note fill pressure where poi started on 2nd shot. Fill to that pressure. Don't exceed 3000 psi unless you wanna change seals sooner. Shoot it more and often and it will shoot better Big Daddy.
You gotta do the clay block test.
Soon
Indiana and Kentucky now allow air guns that meet minimum requirements for deer season. Indiana must be .40 caliber min with at least 400 ft lbs energy, Kentucky is .35 caliber min that must be charged with an external tank and expanding projectile but no stated min ft lbs of energy.
The air rifles have sure come a long way since the 5mm Sheridan Blue Streak when I was a kid!
Awesome!
Worse thing you can do is let that gun sit. It will leak. Fill it and shoot it often and seals will last up to 6 years or so.
Always loved the break action 177. But that thing is on another level!
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Time to take it to 100 yds! Might even try "poor man" tethering. Fill your big bottle up the same pressure that your rifle uses then connect it to the rifle, open the tank valve and leave it open. The rifle will pull air from your large tank as you shoot. It will keep your shots much more consistent when shooting at distance. Just make sure you don't have your big tank filled to a higher pressure than the gun will take. I would expect doing the poor man tether will maybe get you 30-50 pretty constant shots. Maybe more than that even depending on how the rifle uses it's air. If you want to get a real tethering rig look up Huma in-line regulators. They allow you to connect to 4500 psi tank and reduce the pressure to a safe level for the rifle. Of course this is for bench rest style shooting. if go this route, my make find you have an accuracy node at less pressure than the rifle's max fill. example: your group you shot, think the first shot was high then the group settled down and started grouping tighter. You might find that lowering your fill pressure by 100-200 psi gives tighter grouping. That's one method of tuning the accuracy of a non-regulated rifle. keep the videos coming!!
The round balls made for black powder are hard cast, airguns do not like hard cast.
I have used them, but use soft cast now.
I buy them from a guy who knows how to make them. He has made a control on his Lee pot, constant themp=constant weigth and size, and he thumbles the sprue of.
I can't duplicate the quality he makes.
I use them in 9mm.
Soft cast flattens like a pancake, the harder lead punches to 4 inches of pine in 1 of my airguns.
You need to get the Recluse 500 cc next. 9mm . 100 yard deer gun
See what it will do in balistic gel or hitting concrete blocks at 50 yards!
The round balls are pretty rough looking ammo...still a decent group...once you get into some higher quality ammo, your groups will tighten up and be more consistent
Yes I agree with using muzzleloader ball they are 179 gr Hornady round ball .490 Dia.
You'll never get a really tight group with the ball ammo the manufacturing process leaves imperfections on the surface which leads to air resistance affecting the projectile
Would love to see Benjamin Rouge .358 PCP perform. Supposed to be really something amazing.
Definitely have to do your famous paper plate vs and can’t forget the water jugs
Wonder if you can use a 50 cal bullet that's used for muzzle loader?
My best groups are from weighing the pellets and not trying to group just after filling the air gun. Try it if you have the patience 😀
Hey Brother, I am getting into air rifles as well. If you want some same hole accuracy, look into Dynamic air rifles. They are literally same hole accurate. I put a Hawke 39 by 50mm. It is a joy to shoot. I have only shot out to 100yards once. With a crap scope was getting 2.5 inches at a 100.
Awesome
You effectively have a big bore close range hunting rifle and the fastest crossbow in the world in one package. When you look at it like that this airgun is a steal at the price you get it at. And I haven't found it any cheaper than pyramid air and with the price of the gun shipping's free. Winner winner. Plus it would give me a reason to turn on my lead pot and get to cooking up some next to free rounds since I got a couple hundred pounds of free lead and molds.
You need to do an gelatin test with this thing man that would be awesome
Ah yes, the pressure release valve - as an avid diver, I've spent many many hours around super steels tanks being filled and then disconnected without using the bleeder valve properly. Now that sounds like a gunshot and a half 🤣
The dragon claw makes groups similar to good quality firearms. I am going to ask around if this is locally available. I heard that it is made in Korea and have several models. Thanks for the videos on this WTW !!
Air guns are fun no matter what caliber they are. Best of all they aren't bad on your hearing and you don't have to worry about picking up your brass.😁
The big bores are still pretty loud. Airforce Texans are available suppressed ('cause they're not firearms) but I still end up using earpro when I shoot mine, even with the shusher.
I hope you do some deer hunting this coming season with that!
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Oh! And that answers my question about accuracy! Thanks! Super cool.
Have you chrono'd these loads?
Very fun gun!
Gracias por darnos otro video divertido! Un abrazo grande WTW
I have air gun versions of most of my powder burners in 4.5 mm and 6 mm. 1911s, M1 carbine (s), AKs, Colt SAA and when it comes to automatic weapons Broomhandle Mausers to ARs they make them all or at least most! Lol .....
Love the Air gun content
Me too!
Awesome video WTW. Can’t wait to see you do some more hunting with it.
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very nice. first two shots in same hole.
Impressive, considering you are using bbs instead of pellets (pellets engage the rifling much better than bbs).
Benjamin marauder has a 22 semiautomatic PCP you should try out .
Its cool this interested me as ive never seen nothn like it till u got this 1.
This big bore air bing bang sure looks fun to use. Kinda reminds me of the old black powder days with round balls. Wondering if this thing can shoot the same boo lots used in 50 cal black powder with the Sabbat’s. Don’t know much at all bout these things but am enjoying learning with WTW and fans as we go. Good shooting and gods speed to the family and fans of WHO TEE WHO YA DA MAN 🎥💯👍🐉🔪
I love it!
How many paper plates does it go threw
You can use what ever scope you want my friend. I mean how many of us actually use a rimfire scope on a 22 anymore.
Those who informed you to use a air rifle specific scope vice a center fire rifle scope. Are absolutely correct. The recoil is completely different from a center fire. So the scope for a center fire rifle is built different from a air rifle scope. It will destroy a center fire rifle scope. Correct advice a nice firearm. You can get very easily sucked in the air rifle world... suppressors are available and you can get them easily.. hunting... precision shooting... expensive to very affordable.. easily modified . Very cool.
Wrong, very wrong. Air rifle scopes are only for break barrels. I run high end night force scopes on my pcp airguns without any issues whatsoever.
I thinking of getting one those air guns very useful bit of kit that I think my missus would like as she hasn’t got the muscle to cock my crossbows or my recurve bows , thanks for the vid 👍
On the last 5 shot group. On the first shot you had the charging handle forward. The last 4 the charging handle was to the rear. Not sure if that is why the first flew high or not.
A penetration test using plastic gallon water jugs would be great with this rifle using the round balls. You can use swaged lead .490 diameter 180 grain lead .50 caliber muzzle loader round balls in it too. The power is similar to shooting a .50 caliber Hawken with a patched round ball and 40 grains of 3f black powder. I noticed how you like the PCP air rifles but I stick with the break barrels because they are less likely to break and don’t need to be refilled with compressed air but I do love the power of that dragon claw and if I ever got me a PCP that’s the one I would get
You should try different bullets for this gun instead of the round ball
You should try the high powered break barrel .25 caliber air rifles like my Hatsan 135 QE vortex .25 caliber air rifle and try the H&N brand pellets in it. The dragon claw is great for medium sized game and big game east of the rocky mtns but a high powered break barrel would make a nice plinker at up to 50 yards and a good rifle for small game as well as medium sized game like coons and possums and ground hogs and bobcats and coyotes and 200 pound wild boars
You could get yourself a .72 cal AEA zues (most powerful air rifle) or a hatsan blitz full auto or something around those lines. They would be a good time :)
Gamo .22 break barrel brother and great shooting guns
Great shootin’!!!
Very impressive! Have you tried dieseling yet? That .50 might get a substantial velocity increase .
Have not tried. Don't think that is recommended
@@WHOTEEWHO definitely not. A cheap gamo break barrel? Knock yourself out. But high end pcp = big hell naw lol
That was a really fun video! 👍 🇺🇸
Thanks for watching!
Think of u used conicals instead of the roundball u'd get netter groups
Good shooting!! Thinking of getting one of those myself. What is the effective hunting range on medium sized game?
Need to do more testing
Go with a .30 cal. Plenty of power for coyotes and smaller. I’ve killed rock chucks well past 200 yards and I get 70 shots not 5.
However, my airguns are also 2,000 lol
Check out the umarex gauntlet in .30 cal it’s the best pcp on the market for the price. You can pre order it on prymid air
Dang it..... Now Im gonna have get one of these
Not to brag, but I’m shooting 1 hole at 50 yards and inch groups at 200 yards with both of my airguns. (Takes ALOT of work to get there) but I’m shooting .30 and .25 caliber.
30/s shooting 44g slug 980fps
.25/s shooting 37g slug 970fps
Both guns are getting around 65-70 shots per fill.
Fx maverick sniper in .25 cal
Vulcan 3 slug gun in .30 cal
Great video mate, how about doing one on the .357 Recluse?
Lot of power there!
Great 💓
Well YT did let me watch the video but not let me in the chat will try again tomorrow night 👁
Been in timeout before on other channels after a few minutes let me back in but all I did here was say hello couple time and got blocked well timeout ? Was a interesting video Who-Tee-Who thank you 👍🏻
You gotta get a GAMO .22
Pretty good accuracy with round balls at that range. Have you done any penetration tests? Like the ballistic jell or water melons?
More soon
Clay Block Time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Filmed it. Video out soon
Interesting video. Nice gun.
Hey Arthur!
Get a better scope plus use slugs , that’ll tighten your group
want to see 100yard drop curious about that
Coming soon. Already filmed it
Hey buddy, cool video. Nice group with the Seneca Dragon Claw. Now you need to order some ammunition from Neilsen Specialty Ammo. I have ordered quite a bit from him. You will be able to get some really consistent and accurate ammo, and some devastating hollow points. Tell him Ryan sent you his way.
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Help to pellet NSA SLUG caliber 22 / 5,5mm mr.
Do they make a .45 cal. Rifle
I love my air rifles..
Great stuff! 👍
Looks fun. Can it shoot Minié balls?
Any regulatory rules for air guns in the us ?
State to state
Federally none, a few states like NJ have restrictions but for the most part you can go crazy and it’s the same with muzzle loaders you can have a no10 cap .22 parlor pistol all the way to homemade smokeless powder muzzle loading monsters... yeah smokeless muzzle loaders are a thing.
Dragonclaw vs clay block
Filmed that today. Video out soon
What’s the velocity
What compressor do u recommend
Adam can you get 50 cal pellets as balls are not the most accurate of projectiles.
Do they make ballistic tips hunting rounds for that?
Not that I have seen
I think the erector system of that scope leaves a LOT to be desired. Try tapping the turrets after you make adjustments.
AND Pyramid is a first class outfit.
WHO-TEE-WHO have you done a chronometer velocity test or thought about a gelatin or clay blocks with it? 👍
Coming soon
@@WHOTEEWHO Thank you sir and Good Night sir!
Will it shoot the same ammo as a black powder rifle
Yes I shoot the black powder bullets from mine .
Cool, next Full Auto air gun 👍
Don't get too upset about the round balls. If they don't fully engage the rifling it will be like throwing a knuckle ball. Just like bb's.