These are the kind of folks you could sit and enjoy their company for hours! Thanks for this interview. I took away some deeper thinking and lots of laughs.
I found this so refreshing to hear. I finished my mission in '91 and left the church '96. With family and friends still involved I never get the chance to moan about the absurdities. It's all a lifetime ago, yet this chat took me right back - I found myself nodding and giggling throughout. Thank you to all for sharing.
NeverMo here. I have to say that this episode has, for me, been one of the best I've listened to. I really think Warren should be a reader for audio books! Love his voice!
Fantastic Podcast, Cindy and Warren are so real it is a joy to listen to them. There is a deep connection between those two, congratulation Cindy and Warren.
This was amazing! My father was a mission president in the 70's and m y memories of the church at that time were confirmed in several ways. Warren and Cindy are remarkable. Thank you John for continuing to bring healing, comfort and acknowledgement to so many.
She’s still fun and sexy as hell and he’s a character with this badass voice, and they were both expert skiers, clearly. I’m about their age, love the mountains, non LDS, but ex-evangelical and left my faith in the 80s, and I wish I’d met them back then. What a blast that would have been.
Best interview ever! The humor and realness of this couple is just lovely. I would love to hear an interview with their kids--I can only imagine the stories they would have to tell about their lives growing up. 😁
This video was most hopeful! Raised a Baptist, I was baptized Mormon 49 years ago and quickly developed into a very orthodox Mormon. I walked away from activity in the church five years ago after ANOTHER abusive encounter with a priesthood leader. I experienced abusive situations often in the church. Raised in abuse, I decided 42 years was enough and demanded that I not be contacted again. I had the First Presidency intervene in the 1980s with another abusive situation, but the SP called me in to his office, demanded I not bring my husband into his office. Then, he wagged his finger in my face and shouted to me NEVER to go over his head again. I left activity in the church, but could not leave completely because I truly believed the BOM was true and that made Joseph a prophet. “Knowing” that the BOM was true, I could not leave the church. I was introduced to the CES Letter a week ago. Just Wow! My life has turned upside down in 9 days! Then, I listened to MS with The Secret Mormon Meetings of 1922. This made me more angry than I was at Joseph because of the magnitude of 85 people who chose to bury the TRUTH under a testimony. I’m 70 years old with Stage IV cancer, but I’m very grateful that I’ve learned the truth while alive. I’ve immersed myself in many Mormon Stories videos this week. (John it was me who helped your ratings :) Thanks for discussing how learning the truth affected your new world views. Especially I’m struggling with finding my own truth. Baptized at 23 years, I have never attempted to live my own truth. I hope my cancer allows me time to find peace with Mormonism before I pass. Surprisingly, I am not afraid to die when I know the Mormon Heaven does not exist. Honestly, I didn’t want eternity with my parents, so this is a relief rather than uncomfortable. You both are Inspiring. Thanks for sharing your journeys away from Mormonism.
It’s crazy isn’t it?! I learned about all this in January & have been soaking up as much as possible since. At 53 I’m hoping to soon move on & let go obsessing with learning of all the horrible history & mind control this religion had on me. Listening to the book A New Earth by Eckhart Tolle (suggested in several Mormon Stories interviews) helped me open my spiritual view and not be scared to move on from the Mormon view of eternity. I’m so sorry you are struggling with your health. May you find peace in this new knowledge you are experiencing. Xoxo
Hello Gail! I am b.i.c. 1950 and left the Cult of Jesus Christ 41 years ago. The single most valuable and transformative insights I have discovered are books by Michael Newton PhD starting with "Journey of Souls." Check the reviews on Amazon and then get the book and read it. Then decide if you want to read his other books ... adding to the treasure trove. What happens after we die (and before we were born) is no longer a mystery for those with eyes to see and ears to hear. Sending ♥♥♥ and huggles to you, Gail! -GaryC
I am so glad you are thinking for yourself. I understand feeling silenced and believing at the same time. I am grateful that I am not spending eternity with parts of my family. I hope you are doing well!
30 years, two bishoprics, 20 years pagan, Then saved by JESUS Himself. dont know why, but i am exceedingly grateful. I would urge you to read the gospel of john, especially chapter three. And ask JESUS if HE will reveal Himself to you. I believe HE will if Your sincere. just my opinion, God Bless You in Your illness.
John I Have love your Podcast for the last 2 years as I have gone through my Journey. I have listened to most of all of your podcasts. They have all been very interesting, enlightening and really addicting... I gotta say this was one of the most interesting and entertaining... I laughed so much and was amazed at Warrens stories... I need to start donating..
Yes ... please go ahead and become a donor. I've been a monthly donor for years. Got invited to a Donor Luncheon when JD was in Portland a couple years ago and met him personally. He is VERY tall ... around 6'5". I felt short standing next to him, and I'm 6'3".
I am one of your never Mormon subscribers. I have watched SO MANY of your videos and this is my favorite! I was born in 1956 and graduated high school in 1974 just like Warren. Apart from that these 2 are great, my all time favorites! It seems the Mormons that do the best are the ones that don’t take it as seriously/literally as others. The ones that suffer the worst are the ones that buy in the most fully.
This is both tragically sad, and hilariously funny at the same time. Mormonism just gets more wacky all the time. Thanks John for these two fascinating and humorous guests…I laughed so hard, and loved it…😂 👏🏾
I am a NeverMo, but I was Lutheran throughout my childhood into my college years. I hit my 30s and started to deconstruct my faith. I hit the same conclusion that Warren did; I can live an upstanding life stained in peaceful existence without having the fear of consequences from a higher power. and what he said about death is so well put. Also the fementist thing. John is right. It's a wonderful thing that she was able to persue her wants and dreams. For some women that's breaking a glass ceiling, for others it's dedicating their time navigating the complexities of raising the next generation. All of that is valid as long as a woman chose that for herself, where she has the privilege to make the choice.
Great show today. I very much enjoyed watching. Dittos for you John , very kind & gracious young Lady , to Warren/Cindy. The show was informative & thought provoking. Thank you so much.☝️👨💻
LOL, Mr Driggs is so comical! My husband could not stop laughing about while on his Mission, his first official Blessing of the 85 year old Mexican woman resulted in her death!! That was one heck of a powerful blessing!!! Still laughing! 🤣😂
I too laughed--thru my tears--as the piss drizzled down my leg ...the poor old woman who my health blessing "killed" had the strength to cheat death for one entire day after my--sub par-- declarations. (1974 Argentina East Mission. Provence of Santa Fe.)
I grew up as one of those “casual Mormons.” My mother attended BYU as a non-member and never joined the church. My father was inactive but gave up drinking and went back to activity after my mom died. My mother sent all of us kids to church, my sisters gained a deep hatred of the church while I served a mission but was never fully immersed. I can say this much, I could have never grown up in an orthodox family. I preferred being a casual Mormon, take the good and leave the rest behind.
What I hear in these interviews is so strange to me I'm often left speechless. I guess the LDS church never gained much appreciation here in Portugal not just because the whole myth is so "far out": it's because coffee is such an important part of our culture.
@@AChickandaDuck, that too. But people here drink a lot of coffee, much more often than wine. I've just looked at a marketing study and 17% of the population drinks only a cup of coffee per day, 42% at least 2 cups per day (and more than half of those, 22%, drink 3 to 5 cups per day). 80% drink espresso shots, no milk added, 49.7% have a coffee machine at home. Last but not least, for 57% drinking coffee is the first thing they do when they wake up (myself included). As for wine, each Portuguese drinks on average 62 liters/year... and 51 liters/year of beer. I don't think the coffee/wine/beer industry is worried about some strange religion. No offense meant by the use of "strange religion", it's just that the mainstream religion here is Roman Catholic (81% are baptized)... although most don't go to church very often (or care much about religion, in the Lisbon area only 30% were regular church goers in 1990 and I think that number has declined a lot since). According to the 2011 census, ~7% said to have no religion (note: there's even some discussion regarding the constitutionality of asking religious belief in the census).
I think it’s a lot easier not being angry when you’re not stuck in a mixed faith marriage. Warren is lucky that both he and Cindy are on the same page about their religion. JD conducted an amazing interview.
Just listened to the interview with Warren and Cindy ( the podcast on spotify). Thoroughly entertaining. They both are such great story tellers; had me in stitches also 😂 Great interview
The insights about toxic,controlling religion are fascinating,but when he talks about belief in God, he doesn't sound open minded or understanding himself.
I loved this interview! I always appreciate all the heart-wrenching and hard stories on this podcast, but it was so nice to have a little lightness and laughter around the topic of the church. Thank you! Looking forward to reading warren’s books!
I remember getting baptized for the dead. When the bishop interviewed me, he asked if I paid tithing and I had tell him I didn’t pay tithing from my 50cents a week allowance. He said, “that’s ok, you only have to tithe from money you earn.” It was a fun trip from Provo to SLC and we stopped at Dee’s drive in. My family was also Mormon in name only.
Cindy has a personality that makes you feel at ease. What super cool couple, enjoyed listening to them. Although they may feel that they got married in a rush and they did, clearly they had so much more in common that bonded them that was not at the surface at that time but was uncovered along the way in their journey. Cara, your comment about the Jurassic Park was hilarious, I know the room fell a little silent, this is your stand up talent coming through. It's actually a pretty funny bit if there was an Ex-Mormon comedy troupe.
It was Sandra Tanner who told me this, Deseret Book sells No Man Knows My History. At least they did. Someone can purchase the book there and give it to family members or friends in the Desert Book Store Bag for better reception. I have so enjoyed this interview!
@@ExploreXplore394 Personally, I’ve been fascinated with the LDS church and it’s believers with regards to church history, especially since the advent of Google. I do appreciate the familial teachings, though. To ask you questions about your Church’s history would only insult you, so I won’t.
If we didn’t all know exactly what you were talking about… we wouldn’t all be laughing so hard right now! Thanks for the laughs amidst the pain that was so real.
I really loved this episode. They are hilarious and bring a lightness to leaving religion that a nevermo like me can understand. Losing one's religion is emotionally difficult....but regaining life again with a lighter outlook and acceptance of everyone in their life journeys is the best feeling.
In December of 1989 I left my husband of 15 years and moved from CA to UT to get away from him. Believe me, that was not a popular thing to do back then because you don't get divorced! I landed the job of the Administrative Assistant to the President of Deseret Book Company. I learned that Thomas Monson was veeerrry particular about the jackets on his books. We would send over a box to be autographed, and he would send it back because the jackets were not on completely 100% straight. We would have to adjust those jackets and then send the books back. He also had to have his photo on the front of every book he wrote! haha He was not well loved at that company! Thanks to the Driggs for sharing their story. I really enjoyed this episode!
I have been out of the church for 2 years. I can relate to what they said about their friends not asking them why I left. They don’t want to hear the truth, even though of them know the ugly truth about the church. They just want to make their assumptions.
A very profound listen. As a woman of faith, who believes in karma and lives by the ethos do unto all what you would have done to myself, I found this intercourse illuminating. Whilst I have a doctorate in biblical studies, it is that accomplishment that has opened my mind to the questioning of that faith. A long time ago, I stepped away from the Christian movement. The Bible itself is a book of history. Written originally in Aramaic, Ancient Hebrew and Archaic Roman. These writings were then translated to Latin, back into Arabic, Hebrew and Roman. These already corrupted writings were then translated from dynamic emotive languages into King James archaic English, which has since been rewritten in many other dialects of English throughout the years, with gains and losses at each edit. There are huge pockets of time missing from these accounts. The scriptures are not even collated in sequential order. Scholars debated that which should be included or excluded, anything that opposed the creators beliefs was cast out, and not even referred to ensuring that it is a book of bias. In addition to this, the reality of life that all that is true, is not always truth. How can we on one hand preach an omnipotent, all knowing and all loving god who wis unwavering in his ways, then modernise him every era as we have done since the very first writings. Whilst I know to most people, these details are pretty minor, they cast the seeds of doubt. When a good friend came to me after the loss of her daughter, I gave her a couple of poems and told her there was a lot of comfort to be found in the psalms. Her question has stayed with me all these years. If there is a god why did he allow my A…a young baby too young to sin to die such a horrible, agonising death? This added to my doubts and rapidly waning beliefs. Eventually I broke. Now I live by faith safe in the knowledge that my needs will be met. I am content exactly as I am, and there is nothing I need to change. So hearing this message and the validation that smart minds cannot in good conscience ascribe to the meta physical
How did no one react more to Warren being in the same jail cell as Ted Bundy, my mouth is still open 😂 Talk about last thing I expected from this episode, lmao. Awesome couple, super interesting perspectives. 👏
So funny. When I was younger and into the Mormon thing, we always thought anyone who went to University of Utah was a rebel, not good enough to go to BYU.
I loved and needed his comments about having fun with it and not being in a constant state of betrayal and hurt. My mother and sister are still so pure and holy. They give me all these religious books, so I give them some of the ones I like. They won't even discuss it with me.
Wow. This may be my favorite Mormon Story. I have ADHD and I couldn’t stop listening! The Ted Bundy twist was 🤯 I loved their stories and the way the interact with one another is so touching.
I really did appreciate John being genuinely pleasant with every one. Of course Warren and Cindy were amazing. I liked Cindy's composure throughout. She seems level headed and calm. I would say she authentically listens and tries to understand people. So glad to have listened to Warren stories. I was truly touched by them. They were very exciting stories that kept you on your toes and funny. I like what you said that "the church will change" If that happens I can't wait to see it. That would be exciting. I will be looking out for that.
I may have a difficult time with the church after some things that happened, but I do know there is a God and a savior. I've had some incredible experiences that would leave me frightened to deny that there is a father in heaven....and I mean incredible experiences! So, yeah, I could never NOT believe!
D. Michael Quinn had the same thing happen with the bloody clothes relic from Carthage jail. I heard Quinn’s interview by Lindsay Hansen Park, on Sunstone Mormon History podcast episode 4. Story starts at 46:30 into the podcast. Gary Smith asks Quinn to meet with his father in 1977, at the “patriarch’s home” being a descendant of Hyrum Smith. Eldridge E. Smith, or Eldred G. Smith, I think was the name. The patriarch brought out many relics, Quinn says, including sacred cherished occult tools used by Hyrum and Joseph Smith. Wooden box that held the plates, parchment of Abrac, used for folk magic divining or something. Temple garment of Hyrum used at Nauvoo. Just a bunch of stuff!
I'm with Cindy when it comes to feminism. I left Mormonism about 4 years ago, converted to Christianity but I'm having a really hard time dealing with even Christians. Right now I'm not wanting to go to any church or belong to any belief or organization ...
I lived in StG for like 20 years and did not know there was a sturdy foundation post-Mormon support system. I guess I was just too orthodox to run in the same circles as the Driggs. Never heard of them.
Thank you so much for your podcast! I have been out of the church for 17 years but find myself still needing to process things from time to time, (I guess that is what being born in the covenant and drinking the kool aid for 28 years can do to you ;) and love hearing and relating to those who are brave and tell their stories here. Loved the light hearted humor of the Driggs and also their sincerity and kindness. Keep the the stories coming they are helping those questioning, just leaving and those who left it long ago
Love these people! Wish I had them in my family.. just super sincere and kind. Just remember to live by the golden rule as much as possible, give people the benefit of the doubt, assume good intent, and offer to help. Not being shackled to beliefs, punishment or reward allows us to live as free as possible. I love being free and good for the sake of helping make the world a better place one day at a time. Can’t wait to make new friends with others with similar values ❤️🍻🍻.
I enjoyed the entire discussion and appreciate Warren & Cindy for sharing their stories. And, Warren Driggs' books are worth reading - all of them. Thanks to Mormon Stories for this platform.
This is my favorite episode thus far. When Warren said something about how Joseph Smith and Christianity, in general, didn’t have the rights over morals, that wasn’t an exact quote but his statement resonated with me.
Thank you for this interview! I was wondering if there is a link to Mormon Stories interview #557 mentioned a couple of times by John during this interview. I searched it on TH-cam but no luck. :(
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These are the kind of folks you could sit and enjoy their company for hours! Thanks for this interview. I took away some deeper thinking and lots of laughs.
I found this so refreshing to hear. I finished my mission in '91 and left the church '96. With family and friends still involved I never get the chance to moan about the absurdities. It's all a lifetime ago, yet this chat took me right back - I found myself nodding and giggling throughout. Thank you to all for sharing.
NeverMo here. I have to say that this episode has, for me, been one of the best I've listened to. I really think Warren should be a reader for audio books! Love his voice!
Loved this couple. So intelligent and well spoken. And Warren has such a low key irreverent humor that really had me chuckling.
I had no idea how much the Mormon podcast would help heal me and help to address a lot of my concerns with the church and my mission!
This was the best interview. Warren Driggs is hilarious.
Fantastic Podcast, Cindy and Warren are so real it is a joy to listen to them. There is a deep connection between those two, congratulation Cindy and Warren.
This was amazing! My father was a mission president in the 70's and m y memories of the church at that time were confirmed in several ways. Warren and Cindy are remarkable. Thank you John for continuing to bring healing, comfort and acknowledgement to so many.
Great interview. Warren - you are stand-up witty and funny. Both y’all an easy listening and humble personality. Thank you for your story.
She’s still fun and sexy as hell and he’s a character with this badass voice, and they were both expert skiers, clearly. I’m about their age, love the mountains, non LDS, but ex-evangelical and left my faith in the 80s, and I wish I’d met them back then. What a blast that would have been.
Best interview ever! The humor and realness of this couple is just lovely. I would love to hear an interview with their kids--I can only imagine the stories they would have to tell about their lives growing up. 😁
This video was most hopeful! Raised a Baptist, I was baptized Mormon 49 years ago and quickly developed into a very orthodox Mormon.
I walked away from activity in the church five years ago after ANOTHER abusive encounter with a priesthood leader. I experienced abusive situations often in the church. Raised in abuse, I decided 42 years was enough and demanded that I not be contacted again.
I had the First Presidency intervene in the 1980s with another abusive situation, but the SP called me in to his office, demanded I not bring my husband into his office. Then, he wagged his finger in my face and shouted to me NEVER to go over his head again.
I left activity in the church, but could not leave completely because I truly believed the BOM was true and that made Joseph a prophet. “Knowing” that the BOM was true, I could not leave the church.
I was introduced to the CES Letter a week ago. Just Wow! My life has turned upside down in 9 days! Then, I listened to MS with The Secret Mormon Meetings of 1922. This made me more angry than I was at Joseph because of the magnitude of 85 people who chose to bury the TRUTH under a testimony.
I’m 70 years old with Stage IV cancer, but I’m very grateful that I’ve learned the truth while alive. I’ve immersed myself in many Mormon Stories videos this week. (John it was me who helped your ratings :)
Thanks for discussing how learning the truth affected your new world views. Especially I’m struggling with finding my own truth. Baptized at 23 years, I have never attempted to live my own truth.
I hope my cancer allows me time to find peace with Mormonism before I pass. Surprisingly, I am not afraid to die when I know the Mormon Heaven does not exist. Honestly, I didn’t want eternity with my parents, so this is a relief rather than uncomfortable.
You both are Inspiring. Thanks for sharing your journeys away from Mormonism.
It’s crazy isn’t it?! I learned about all this in January & have been soaking up as much as possible since. At 53 I’m hoping to soon move on & let go obsessing with learning of all the horrible history & mind control this religion had on me. Listening to the book A New Earth by Eckhart Tolle (suggested in several Mormon Stories interviews) helped me open my spiritual view and not be scared to move on from the Mormon view of eternity. I’m so sorry you are struggling with your health. May you find peace in this new knowledge you are experiencing. Xoxo
Hello Gail! I am b.i.c. 1950 and left the Cult of Jesus Christ 41 years ago. The single most valuable and transformative insights I have discovered are books by Michael Newton PhD starting with "Journey of Souls." Check the reviews on Amazon and then get the book and read it. Then decide if you want to read his other books ... adding to the treasure trove. What happens after we die (and before we were born) is no longer a mystery for those with eyes to see and ears to hear. Sending ♥♥♥ and huggles to you, Gail! -GaryC
I am so glad you are thinking for yourself. I understand feeling silenced and believing at the same time. I am grateful that I am not spending eternity with parts of my family. I hope you are doing well!
30 years, two bishoprics, 20 years pagan, Then saved by JESUS Himself. dont know why, but i am exceedingly grateful. I would urge you to read the gospel of john, especially chapter three. And ask JESUS if HE will reveal Himself to you. I believe HE will if Your sincere. just my opinion, God Bless You in Your illness.
Wow madam, I feel extremely inspired by your effort to briefly tell your story here! I wish I knew you personally so I could learn more.
John I Have love your Podcast for the last 2 years as I have gone through my Journey. I have listened to most of all of your podcasts. They have all been very interesting, enlightening and really addicting... I gotta say this was one of the most interesting and entertaining... I laughed so much and was amazed at Warrens stories... I need to start donating..
Yes ... please go ahead and become a donor. I've been a monthly donor for years. Got invited to a Donor Luncheon when JD was in Portland a couple years ago and met him personally. He is VERY tall ... around 6'5". I felt short standing next to him, and I'm 6'3".
I am one of your never Mormon subscribers. I have watched SO MANY of your videos and this is my favorite! I was born in 1956 and graduated high school in 1974 just like Warren. Apart from that these 2 are great, my all time favorites!
It seems the Mormons that do the best are the ones that don’t take it as seriously/literally as others. The ones that suffer the worst are the ones that buy in the most fully.
I know I'm 8 months late here, but Warren, I'm going to need you to record audiobooks. 10/10. Would buy.
This is both tragically sad, and hilariously funny at the same time. Mormonism just gets more wacky all the time. Thanks John for these two fascinating and humorous guests…I laughed so hard, and loved it…😂 👏🏾
Well said
Most Mormons have no idea they are actually doing the work of the oppostion and that is to literally destroy the truth about God our creatour😍
I am a NeverMo, but I was Lutheran throughout my childhood into my college years. I hit my 30s and started to deconstruct my faith. I hit the same conclusion that Warren did; I can live an upstanding life stained in peaceful existence without having the fear of consequences from a higher power. and what he said about death is so well put.
Also the fementist thing. John is right. It's a wonderful thing that she was able to persue her wants and dreams. For some women that's breaking a glass ceiling, for others it's dedicating their time navigating the complexities of raising the next generation. All of that is valid as long as a woman chose that for herself, where she has the privilege to make the choice.
Translating "No Man Knows My History" into Spanish would be amazing.
And many other languages!
That's a really good idea!
I know Spanish I could do it
You should read "No Ma'am that's not history" by Hugh Nibley
Great show today. I very much enjoyed watching. Dittos for you John , very kind & gracious young Lady , to Warren/Cindy. The show was informative & thought provoking. Thank you so much.☝️👨💻
LOL, Mr Driggs is so comical! My husband could not stop laughing about while on his Mission, his first official Blessing of the 85 year old Mexican woman resulted in her death!! That was one heck of a powerful blessing!!! Still laughing! 🤣😂
I couldn’t stop laughing either !!! 😆😆
I too laughed--thru my tears--as the piss drizzled down my leg
...the poor old woman who my health blessing "killed" had the strength to cheat death for one entire day after my--sub par--
declarations. (1974 Argentina East Mission. Provence of Santa Fe.)
This man's voice is amazing. He should do ASMR.
I had visions of rob ross listening to him...so soothing,calm ...mellow.🙃
He sounds like Michael Douglas!
Reminds me of Clint Eastwood
Jack Nickelson!
The best I’ve ever listened to.
I grew up as one of those “casual Mormons.” My mother attended BYU as a non-member and never joined the church. My father was inactive but gave up drinking and went back to activity after my mom died. My mother sent all of us kids to church, my sisters gained a deep hatred of the church while I served a mission but was never fully immersed. I can say this much, I could have never grown up in an orthodox family. I preferred being a casual Mormon, take the good and leave the rest behind.
What I hear in these interviews is so strange to me I'm often left speechless. I guess the LDS church never gained much appreciation here in Portugal not just because the whole myth is so "far out": it's because coffee is such an important part of our culture.
Interesting! I went on a mission to France and we had a really hard time convincing people not to drink wine for similar reasons. 🤣
@@AChickandaDuck, that too. But people here drink a lot of coffee, much more often than wine. I've just looked at a marketing study and 17% of the population drinks only a cup of coffee per day, 42% at least 2 cups per day (and more than half of those, 22%, drink 3 to 5 cups per day). 80% drink espresso shots, no milk added, 49.7% have a coffee machine at home. Last but not least, for 57% drinking coffee is the first thing they do when they wake up (myself included). As for wine, each Portuguese drinks on average 62 liters/year... and 51 liters/year of beer. I don't think the coffee/wine/beer industry is worried about some strange religion. No offense meant by the use of "strange religion", it's just that the mainstream religion here is Roman Catholic (81% are baptized)... although most don't go to church very often (or care much about religion, in the Lisbon area only 30% were regular church goers in 1990 and I think that number has declined a lot since). According to the 2011 census, ~7% said to have no religion (note: there's even some discussion regarding the constitutionality of asking religious belief in the census).
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I would be the worst Mormon. I live in Wellington in New Zealand and our local economy runs on coffee.
@@BrigitteDiessl 😂 ☕
I loved this. Great people. I love people who are authentic with no underlying motives to convert others to Their Way. Honesty displayed.
I think it’s a lot easier not being angry when you’re not stuck in a mixed faith marriage. Warren is lucky that both he and Cindy are on the same page about their religion.
JD conducted an amazing interview.
Great listen! Loved his book! And knew he would be so funny in person. 😂 Ya just wanna hang with them! Thanks for having them as a guest.
This was great, not boring at all!
Just listened to the interview with Warren and Cindy ( the podcast on spotify).
Thoroughly entertaining. They both are such great story tellers; had me in stitches also 😂
Great interview
The insights about toxic,controlling religion are fascinating,but when he talks about belief in God, he doesn't sound open minded or understanding himself.
Warren Driggs is my spirit animal. Him waking from St. George to Salt Lake is the most badass story I’ve ever heard. What a great couple.
I loved this interview! I always appreciate all the heart-wrenching and hard stories on this podcast, but it was so nice to have a little lightness and laughter around the topic of the church. Thank you! Looking forward to reading warren’s books!
I remember getting baptized for the dead. When the bishop interviewed me, he asked if I paid tithing and I had tell him I didn’t pay tithing from my 50cents a week allowance. He said, “that’s ok, you only have to tithe from money you earn.” It was a fun trip from Provo to SLC and we stopped at Dee’s drive in. My family was also Mormon in name only.
Thank you Warren and Cindy, looking forward to hearing your story!❤️
John you're so awesome. You're such a great interviewer and these stories are so needed. Thanks for all you do!
Wow! The amount of interesting stories he had to tell. One of my favorite episodes!
I think Warren Driggs has the coolest stories of all guests.
Definitely Clint Eastwood of exmos
Definitely one of the Top 3 interviews you’ve done!
Cindy has a personality that makes you feel at ease. What super cool couple, enjoyed listening to them. Although they may feel that they got married in a rush and they did, clearly they had so much more in common that bonded them that was not at the surface at that time but was uncovered along the way in their journey. Cara, your comment about the Jurassic Park was hilarious, I know the room fell a little silent, this is your stand up talent coming through. It's actually a pretty funny bit if there was an Ex-Mormon comedy troupe.
Thanks. 😂👍🏻
Woke
Finally, the middle initial question. I have been wondering this forever, it's so weird!
It was Sandra Tanner who told me this, Deseret Book sells No Man Knows My History. At least they did. Someone can purchase the book there and give it to family members or friends in the Desert Book Store Bag for better reception.
I have so enjoyed this interview!
I’m not mormon but I’m obsessed with the history and the “religion” it’s so interesting to me
Same here!
@@ExploreXplore394 Personally, I’ve been fascinated with the LDS church and it’s believers with regards to church history, especially since the advent of Google.
I do appreciate the familial teachings, though.
To ask you questions about your Church’s history would only insult you, so I won’t.
I’m obsessed also! My roommate mother can’t stand me. We’ve never been Mormon.
Oh, me too!
Me 2 not sure why... non mormon but living in a mormon world.. we live about 3 miles from these guys
My favourite couple interview ever
If we didn’t all know exactly what you were talking about… we wouldn’t all be laughing so hard right now! Thanks for the laughs amidst the pain that was so real.
Half way through and I adore this couple!!!
I really loved this episode. They are hilarious and bring a lightness to leaving religion that a nevermo like me can understand. Losing one's religion is emotionally difficult....but regaining life again with a lighter outlook and acceptance of everyone in their life journeys is the best feeling.
I really enjoyed this interview. What a lovely couple!
OMG !! I love this couple ! Such great stories 👍🏼
I think it would be awesome to share pictures of your guests if they feel comfortable from their childhoods and lives.
In December of 1989 I left my husband of 15 years and moved from CA to UT to get away from him. Believe me, that was not a popular thing to do back then because you don't get divorced! I landed the job of the Administrative Assistant to the President of Deseret Book Company. I learned that Thomas Monson was veeerrry particular about the jackets on his books. We would send over a box to be autographed, and he would send it back because the jackets were not on completely 100% straight. We would have to adjust those jackets and then send the books back. He also had to have his photo on the front of every book he wrote! haha He was not well loved at that company! Thanks to the Driggs for sharing their story. I really enjoyed this episode!
Thank you Carah for the time stamps! And for your many other contributions!
Mr. Driggs sounds like Batman!! 😄👍
He so does! I love that!
There is so much I identify with in this podcast. Thank you so much for this.
These interviews seem to be getting better and better! 😃
I have been out of the church for 2 years. I can relate to what they said about their friends not asking them why I left. They don’t want to hear the truth, even though of them know the ugly truth about the church. They just want to make their assumptions.
I love this couple. The chill, the humor and the way they are in love.
A very profound listen. As a woman of faith, who believes in karma and lives by the ethos do unto all what you would have done to myself, I found this intercourse illuminating. Whilst I have a doctorate in biblical studies, it is that accomplishment that has opened my mind to the questioning of that faith.
A long time ago, I stepped away from the Christian movement. The Bible itself is a book of history. Written originally in Aramaic, Ancient Hebrew and Archaic Roman. These writings were then translated to Latin, back into Arabic, Hebrew and Roman. These already corrupted writings were then translated from dynamic emotive languages into King James archaic English, which has since been rewritten in many other dialects of English throughout the years, with gains and losses at each edit.
There are huge pockets of time missing from these accounts. The scriptures are not even collated in sequential order. Scholars debated that which should be included or excluded, anything that opposed the creators beliefs was cast out, and not even referred to ensuring that it is a book of bias. In addition to this, the reality of life that all that is true, is not always truth.
How can we on one hand preach an omnipotent, all knowing and all loving god who wis unwavering in his ways, then modernise him every era as we have done since the very first writings. Whilst I know to most people, these details are pretty minor, they cast the seeds of doubt. When a good friend came to me after the loss of her daughter, I gave her a couple of poems and told her there was a lot of comfort to be found in the psalms. Her question has stayed with me all these years. If there is a god why did he allow my A…a young baby too young to sin to die such a horrible, agonising death? This added to my doubts and rapidly waning beliefs.
Eventually I broke. Now I live by faith safe in the knowledge that my needs will be met. I am content exactly as I am, and there is nothing I need to change. So hearing this message and the validation that smart minds cannot in good conscience ascribe to the meta physical
❤️Loved this podcast!❤️ You guys are so fun and so insightful. Thank you!
Immensely interesting interview. Especially since my Dad was born in Driggs in 1921!
Lol his mission stories rocked !! Couldn’t stop laughing lol
Thank you Cindy and Warren. Enjoyed your podcast ❤️
I love their adoration for each other. Such a cute couple!
I was listening to audio only for a bit and for a moment I thought I was listening to Grant Palmer - Warren sounds so much like him.
How did no one react more to Warren being in the same jail cell as Ted Bundy, my mouth is still open 😂
Talk about last thing I expected from this episode, lmao. Awesome couple, super interesting perspectives. 👏
Fantastic interview! Love this couple.
Awesome people with such courage to exit a high-demand religion. Last one out of Mormonism, turn out the lights.
So funny. When I was younger and into the Mormon thing, we always thought anyone who went to University of Utah was a rebel, not good enough to go to BYU.
I loved and needed his comments about having fun with it and not being in a constant state of betrayal and hurt. My mother and sister are still so pure and holy. They give me all these religious books, so I give them some of the ones I like. They won't even discuss it with me.
Love this couple! Warren, you are a hoot! I could listen to you all day!! 😊
These two are hilarious and so refreshing ... loved this!
Such a fantastic episode!
Wow. This may be my favorite Mormon Story. I have ADHD and I couldn’t stop listening! The Ted Bundy twist was 🤯 I loved their stories and the way the interact with one another is so touching.
For real I needed to know more about the Ted Bundy connection
I really did appreciate John being genuinely pleasant with every one. Of course Warren and Cindy were amazing. I liked Cindy's composure throughout. She seems level headed and calm. I would say she authentically listens and tries to understand people. So glad to have listened to Warren stories. I was truly touched by them. They were very exciting stories that kept you on your toes and funny. I like what you said that "the church will change" If that happens I can't wait to see it. That would be exciting. I will be looking out for that.
Love this guys voice
Great episode, thank you!
"Live your truth" best advice for living your life.
What a great couple. Thanks for your story
Blessings Warren and Cindy Driggs
Exceptional. Intelligent people. Just wow... All 3 of you
I may have a difficult time with the church after some things that happened, but I do know there is a God and a savior. I've had some incredible experiences that would leave me frightened to deny that there is a father in heaven....and I mean incredible experiences! So, yeah, I could never NOT believe!
I absolutely loved hearing their story!
Very interesting!!! Honest and respectful and soooo real!!
D. Michael Quinn had the same thing happen with the bloody clothes relic from Carthage jail. I heard Quinn’s interview by Lindsay Hansen Park, on Sunstone Mormon History podcast episode 4. Story starts at 46:30 into the podcast. Gary Smith asks Quinn to meet with his father in 1977, at the “patriarch’s home” being a descendant of Hyrum Smith. Eldridge E. Smith, or Eldred G. Smith, I think was the name. The patriarch brought out many relics, Quinn says, including sacred cherished occult tools used by Hyrum and Joseph Smith. Wooden box that held the plates, parchment of Abrac, used for folk magic divining or something. Temple garment of Hyrum used at Nauvoo. Just a bunch of stuff!
I'm with Cindy when it comes to feminism. I left Mormonism about 4 years ago, converted to Christianity but I'm having a really hard time dealing with even Christians. Right now I'm not wanting to go to any church or belong to any belief or organization ...
Great team! Congratulations Kara!! Love to you all!
Being the product of random Stardust is magic enough for me.
It’s beautiful majik..🌟
The BEST story-teller since Paul Hanks!
❤ I could listen to this couple talk and reminisce about their life all day!
I lived in StG for like 20 years and did not know there was a sturdy foundation post-Mormon support system. I guess I was just too orthodox to run in the same circles as the Driggs. Never heard of them.
This guy needs his own story telling podcast!
Thank you so much for your podcast! I have been out of the church for 17 years but find myself still needing to process things from time to time, (I guess that is what being born in the covenant and drinking the kool aid for 28 years can do to you ;) and love hearing and relating to those who are brave and tell their stories here. Loved the light hearted humor of the Driggs and also their sincerity and kindness. Keep the the stories coming they are helping those questioning, just leaving and those who left it long ago
Love these people! Wish I had them in my family.. just super sincere and kind. Just remember to live by the golden rule as much as possible, give people the benefit of the doubt, assume good intent, and offer to help. Not being shackled to beliefs, punishment or reward allows us to live as free as possible. I love being free and good for the sake of helping make the world a better place one day at a time. Can’t wait to make new friends with others with similar values ❤️🍻🍻.
I agree. 100%
Haha Mormon Jurassic Park. Great idea, Carah!
Thank you, thank you 🤣
I enjoyed the entire discussion and appreciate Warren & Cindy for sharing their stories. And, Warren Driggs' books are worth reading - all of them. Thanks to Mormon Stories for this platform.
Need any quality of audiobook for "No Man Knows My History"
Me too. Need that audiobook asap please, people. Thanks.
Love this couple!!
This is my favorite episode thus far. When Warren said something about how Joseph Smith and Christianity, in general, didn’t have the rights over morals, that wasn’t an exact quote but his statement resonated with me.
Great episode. The best laugh I had in a long time.
Thank you for this interview! I was wondering if there is a link to Mormon Stories interview #557 mentioned a couple of times by John during this interview. I searched it on TH-cam but no luck. :(
That was in the audio only days!!!
We live a couple miles from these guys. I think I talked him when I first we first moved here.. remember the voice.
I'm laughing so hard at this. Warren Driggs as one of the Three Nephites! I love it.
Awesome interview!
Wow,if their story wasn't so fascinating, Warren's voice would have caused me to slide under my steering wheel.