Author Karen Conti - John Wayne Gacy’s Death Row Attorney
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 มิ.ย. 2024
- John Wayne Gacy’s death row attorney, Karen Conti, joins host Joseph Giacalone on True Crime with the Sarge. Attorney Karen Conti will discuss the Gacy appeals and her new book, Killing TIme with John Wayne Gacy. #truecrimewiththesarge #johnwaynegacy #attorney
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Thanks to Karen for such great insight. Her mention of the hate that the public transfers from criminal to their counsel stood out to me. One must have a tough skin. Kudos to her for getting through that time with Gacy.
Thanks for watching Kay!
💜I absolutely agree. This is their job and pivotal to a working, unbiased justice system. True justice can only be obtained, and belief in it upheld when evidence is presented & the accused has an effective defense. Innocent until/unless found guilty in a court of law of one's peers.
Imo, it takes great fortitude to be an effective, calm yet robust Defense Attorney.
Where I draw the line is those Defense Attorneys who stoop (& some actually dive) to actively shaming not only the v1ct1ms but the witnesses, other folx et al. Often using ad hominem commentary & accusations. *They* give competent defense attornies a terrible reputation &. IMHO are responsible for a great portion of Society's mistrust in & blaming/hating of the defense teams. Thanks as always for an amazing , eloquent & thoughtful guest, Sarge™️ @Joseph Giacalone 💜
Edited for a typo.
Enjoyed the live!! You surely do have great guests on your show Sarge. Thanks for sharing all this with the true crime world.
Thanks Liz. I’m trying! I’m glad you enjoyed it
Doing a fabulous job. Your channel is informative and unique.
Great show, thank you! Karen Conti was a great guest.
Thanks for watching!
Hi Karen I loved you years ago when I heard you speak and I still do😊
Hi Joe! Fascinating interview with Karen Conti! Thank you so much! 😮
I’m glad you liked it Anita!
Fantastic show. Thanks so much Joe and Karen
Thanks for watching Deb!
I really enjoyed every minute of this interview ❤ Karen is just magnificent!
Awesome, thanks for watching!
Just finished the replay. This is a behind the scenes I won’t soon forget. And the insight into Gacy’s mind, like his attempts at humor v. Ms. Conti’s staff crying when his time was up, show an evil that I never want to encounter! Thanks Joe for this great channel.
Thank you Flynn Brown!
Geat interview. My biggest laugh of the day was Joe's comment about the execution lottery: "I don't win anything. Something like that I would win." I am Karen's age and grew up not far from her in Brookfield. I got the Audiobook and am happy that she is the narrator. I plan to order the printed copy too. I am not a proponent of the death penalty, but one good reason for it is as a negotiation tool with plea deals. (Tell us where the body is, and answer all our questions.) Thank you Joe and Karen for an enlightening talk.
Excellent Kathleen!
I wanted to come back and post because I got the audiobook and just finished it. It was outstanding. It was in Karen’s voice and I think that brought it to life even more. (I lived in Chicago during those years) She explained many of the conflicts and used the right amount of humor in the right places. I think anyone would love her audiobook, she has a great voice! Thanks Joe and Karen :)
Awesome! I will let her know!
Interesting. Know the John Wayne Gacy story but this is awesome to hear from Karen about the side we weren't privvy to. Thank you Joe, another great show 💙❤🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Thanks for watching Annette
Fantastic stream today. Karen is very interesting. I'm an aussie who is against the death penalty.
Thanks for watching TN 🇦🇺
Thank you Karen you are brilliant
I’ll let her know
Man, i just will never understand some people sending Mrs. Conti hatemail. I think shes great.
She was a great guest and one tough cookie
Catching replay!! Very informative!!
Thanks!
Our justice system is best served when those charged with a crime have a strong defense. Unbalanced scales don’t serve justice. This principle stands regardless of the sick character of the defendant.
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Fascinating! Thank you for bringing this to us ❤
I’m glad you enjoyed it
What a fantastic & dynamic Q&A interview ~ so much more interesting & introspective than the brief surface chatter heard elsewhere. It takes an incredibly kind & superhuman brave person to face & help someone like Gacy. Guess even monsters can be blessed with a guardian angel. But I can also understand why his victim's families can't grasp or accept her compassion. Their loved ones had a monster at their sides when they died. It's a very cruel upside-down anguish to handle.
Thanks for watching MonkeyBusiness!
Hi Joe always happy to come home and get to see you 😇😇
Thanks Toni!☺️
Great, interesting show; first defense attorney I’ve seen that offers no excuses.
Thanks for watching
Thank you both, i learned a lot again. Love your shows.
Thanks for watching!
Sarge, this was very interesting. I had to be another re-watch crew member. I have a garden, and sometimes I get caught up in what I'm doing out there. You and your guests are always my favorite! I am going back and watching every episode! Thank you for your hard work and insights. ❤❤❤
Excellent, I’m glad you enjoyed this one!
I work at a max prison in Iowa that Gacy was incarcerated at. He apparently was a model prisoner. Worked in the kitchen and even had a put put course put in that was there until after 2021. Creepy. Love the show Sgt.!
Awesome Brian, thanks for watching!
There have been many cases lately where I was very disappointed to see that jurors are moving away from handing down the dp. If the case calls for it, is clear, and there is NO doubt they should be given the same fate as their victims and not be given the sympathy that they refused to give/have.
That being said I think aside from jurors-def attorneys are the most important part of our system and we need more with her empathy and courage in the mix.
Missed the live but watched the relay. What a interesting guest and topic . My question regarding SKs is how do they statify their urges once incarcerated? If you ever have the oppty can you ask her for me please, its always my question and have never had it answered. Thank you for having Ms Karen on. She is definitely one tough gal. Loved hearing her backstory and insight to JWG and his case. I agree with her on the death penalty that it serves more as revenge for victims rather than a deterrent for crime. Thanks Sarge! ❤️ 💙
I will ask, it I have a guest coming up in July who would be able to answer that for sure!
@@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge that would be great it doesn't have to be her. I hope to catch that show too. Thank you 💙
Great interview..very interesting!
Thanks for watching Liza!
Not sure if anyone mentioned this during the live, but there are some of Gacy's paintings in the Alcatraz museum in Tennessee.
That was not mentioned and I didn’t know that
@@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge The museum is interesting and a very heavy place to visit. They also have Ted Bundy's car and several other Gacy items like two of his clown costumes and a suit he wore in court.
Great show joe
Thanks Shannon
Great show
Thanks Annie!
My goodness- Abbot & Costello & Bowery Boys?! I actually Did experience that!
Damn, my nap went long! Replay crew!
No worries!
The murderabilia thing is wild. Maybe you should donate those paintings to the jack the ripper museum or something. In five hundred years those things will be cultural artifacts anthropological speaking
Thank you for showing us normies another side of the dodecahedron of crime and punishment.
Thanks for watching!
I am a bit conflicted on DP, due to the many cases reversed on new and advanced DNA and the Innocence Project, revealing new evidence/methods used to prove innocence, reversing many guilty verdicts, even after many years behind bars. However, I understand the revenge aspect; God Bless the victim’s families .
Thanks for watching Silver!
Is removing evil a reason for the death penalty,?
It’s more retribution I imagine - an eye for an eye so to speak
I had a cat badysitter to watch my cat i came back to a 400 dollar bill ps it was not for time or weather😊😊😊😊😊
Replay
Thanks!
Well Attorney Motta was Gasey’s Actual Attorney and he was just doing his job but it pretty much ruined his long, successful career by representing Gasey. So I hope that’s not the case with this Lady. But I’ve NEVER heard of her. Hopefully she was treated better than the Successful Attorney Motta!!! I also do NOT believe that people who haven’t been victimized by a brutal Mur*der in their family, should ever have a vote in the Death Penalty. Y’all don’t know what it’s really like! My grandfather was stabbed 27 times, and robbed, and left for dead in his bed and bleed out for 2 weeks until he was finally found! Both men who committed that crime were DP eligible but took a plea for 25-life to get that off the table which spared my family a trial. That’s a good tool. And when you know somebody who was butchered, you’d feel differently and my family is HUMAN! we believe in an eye for an eye. I was only 4, I never got to even meet my grandfather. My father sunk into a raging alcoholic from that trauma which absolutely affected my brother, my mom & I negatively. Generational trauma is real! I can’t listen to this anymore, but I wish this lady the best!
Karen was his death penalty appeal lawyer - not representing him in the criminal trial - she mentioned he had about 14 other attorneys - she was his last
@@TrueCrimeWithTheSarge I just didn’t listen to it all, however I respect her opinion and I truly respect her for upholding citizens rights and respecting the constitution. She’s probably wonderful but this is a bit tough for myself bc us who are victims of heinous crimes and believe in the DP are human too. So I appreciate her, and yourself sir. Thank you for your years of selfless service to protect the Citizens of NY. Much love and respect from down South! I’ll catch you on the next show.
@@tinydancer867 sure thing tinydancer, I understand
He other attorney became a judge