I bought one of these outboards as well, added gear oil, mixed my gas, put it on the stand with muffs, fired up on first pull, Im in the break in process so far so good.
Yes indeed, mine fired about a quarter way out on the first pull. I had the motor on my Saturn Triton, when I primed and started it for the first time. I'm on my 8th hour now. I ran it for 5 hours on the Mississippi two day's ago and even did a short U Tube video.
I have the same engine. It runs great and starts fast, but the idle is terrible. I've adjusted the idle adjustment many times and can't get it to idle without dying. Raising the idle, and using the first choke setting helps, but getting in gear at that higher idle isn't great for the gears. I just took apart the carb and replaced the fuel line and fuel filter. I'll give it a try later today in a barrel. Next step is carb replacement. I have to mention that after removing the fuel bowl there was a black rubber plug in one of the jets, probably the idle. I thought I'd remove it to see if it will help run richer while idling. If it ran worse could always replace it. BTW, it's fully broken-in and like you am running 40/1 fuel mix. UPDATE: I tank tested the motor and after fiddling with the idle adjustments and it's running great. I don't know whether cleaning the carb (it wasn't very dirty) or removing the rubber plug worked, but it's running great now. I'll possibly lake test it later today. Glad I didn't order that replacement carb from eBbay!
Looks OK to me. My old Merc 200 (20 hp) is 55 years old and still runs. It's not heavily used, of course. So I guess the true test is time. One thing I have noted on the Hangkai is corrosion. They may lack zinc chromate paint primer. Keep the motor clean and dry after use and perhaps wax it. That may help prevent the minor corrosion issue. Happy boating.
This is a straight up copy of Tohatsu (many Mercury’s are also made by Tohatsu as are most small Evinrudes, etc.). Tohatsu is without doubt a great motor.
Good to hear. I've 30+ hours on mine and it is running great. I have a 11ft Inflatable full of fishing gear 20mph was my top speed always with 2 people. I also added the SE 200 hydrofoil to get a Quick plane at lower speed with that installed I lost end speed but still get 17mph. Great motor. I was curios about getting parts if I ever need but someone mentioned that uses Tohatsu. Great Video. Next do it on the water
I just recently bought a 15hp Hangkai from AliExpress for $1462.00 I just mounted it on a 15' fiberglass skiff. I've ran it in a barrel (had to prime it with muffs at first as well) looking forward to sea trial.
Absolutely great review! And I'm very glad that you like your Hangkai outboard😀 No need to buy a Mercury or Yamaha. Chinese engines are just as good and cost way less! The 9.8 and 12 hp 2 stroke Hangkai outboards are based on a Tohatsu 8/9.8 so you can use Tohatsu parts to it if you want :) Btw, do you use synthetic 2 stroke oil in the fuel?
Yes the only 2 stroke marine oil Orielly carries here locally is Synthetic so thats what i used. Lol thanks for the comment!!! Glad u enjoyed the video
@@timhuggins9366 Nice! Every oil should be fully synthetic because it's much better to prevent wear compared to ordinary mineral oil. About the fuel, you can use fuel with ethanol in it, it does no damage and your engine will emit less soot. I use E5 95 in Sweden in a Suzuki DT15 from 1984/1985 and runs with no problems. E5 95 in Sweden is like 89 octane E5 in USA. The new E10 fuel will be introduced here in Sweden in August this year and I looking forward to that! And I enjoyed the video 😀
@@timhuggins9366 I think that the manufacturer are a bit sceptic to the quality of the ethanol. Sulfate is bad for engines, ethanol contained high levels of sulfate before, like 2010, but nowadays it exists regulations of how much sulfate that is allowed to get contained with the ethanol. . So now the E85 or ethanol isn't that bad for engines. If you have any questions about ethanol, feel free to ask 😀 Talking about fuel and that sort of stuff: If you will store your outboard quite a long time, like a month or more, run the engine completely out of fuel in the carburetor before putting it in store. Disconnect the external fuel line from the engine and let the engine run to its shutting down, then you are sure that it's no gasoline inside the carb or very little at least. It prevents deposits in the carburetor which means less truble with dirt clogging the jets.
No sir ur the man. Lol i watched ur 6hp video several times before purchasing my 12hp amd enjoyed it everytime. Thanks for the comment Shevy!!! And keep doing what ur doing.
5:02 my kill switch looks tge same. You can press it for 2 sec to stop the motor. Try it. You need to press it harder as you think. But it schould work
I have same force motor. Are you getting much more speed out of the 12? I want to get the 18 hangkai but not sure if it will be much faster than the force. If the 12 is faster than the 18 should be good.
I go with the 18 if ya want a little more speed. The 12 seems to run close to a 9.9 in my opinion its good, but the 18 would be a bit better. Thanks for the comment!
Joseph Crowley all i did was pump the ball till it was stiff, pull the choke full out pulled till it fired pushed choke all the way in and pulled a few more times and it was running.
what is strange to me is the displacement is 169CC for a 12hp whereas the 9.9hp Mercury is 208cc and the 9.9 hp Suzuki is 327 (because it's the same as their 20hp just tuned down) The older Mercury 2 stroke 9.9hp was 169cc.. I'm thinking this motor is really a 9.9hp not a 12 as advertised..
The break in schedule is pretty extensive. Any idea why? I've never heard of an engine that takes that long to break in. I'm thinking about buying one. Any thoughts?
When my brother bought his new mercury 25hp he was told 10 hour break in time on it as well. The whole reason is proper ring seating takes time thats the reason for varied rpm range and a heavy oil mix and the hours of time.
How long is the motor from mounting clamps to center of propeller I want to get one for my small aluminum boat but not sure if the motor will be to long our river ranges from 2 to 3ft.
The Hangkai is a short shaft motor the transom height on my jon is 15 inches and its perfect for that i will see about gettin u a measurement as soon as i can but hope this helps in the meantime. Thanks for the comment!!!
@@timhuggins9366 cool man thank you a bunch mine is 14 1/4 or so it's a 12ft Jon boat. It looks just rite on your boat I think it will be perfect thanks again.
I also just bought one of those,and that red kill switch button can work even with the lanyard attached. ( just push on the red button)! Have fun.
I bought one of these outboards as well, added gear oil, mixed my gas, put it on the stand with muffs, fired up on first pull, Im in the break in process so far so good.
Thats great mines been great too best of luck with yours as well!!! Thanks for the comment!
Yes indeed, mine fired about a quarter way out on the first pull. I had the motor on my Saturn Triton, when I primed and started it for the first time. I'm on my 8th hour now. I ran it for 5 hours on the Mississippi two day's ago and even did a short U Tube video.
I have the same engine. It runs great and starts fast, but the idle is terrible. I've adjusted the idle adjustment many times and can't get it to idle without dying. Raising the idle, and using the first choke setting helps, but getting in gear at that higher idle isn't great for the gears. I just took apart the carb and replaced the fuel line and fuel filter. I'll give it a try later today in a barrel. Next step is carb replacement. I have to mention that after removing the fuel bowl there was a black rubber plug in one of the jets, probably the idle. I thought I'd remove it to see if it will help run richer while idling. If it ran worse could always replace it. BTW, it's fully broken-in and like you am running 40/1 fuel mix.
UPDATE: I tank tested the motor and after fiddling with the idle adjustments and it's running great. I don't know whether cleaning the carb (it wasn't very dirty) or removing the rubber plug worked, but it's running great now. I'll possibly lake test it later today. Glad I didn't order that replacement carb from eBbay!
Looks OK to me.
My old Merc 200 (20 hp) is 55 years old and still runs. It's not heavily used, of course. So I guess the true test is time.
One thing I have noted on the Hangkai is corrosion. They may lack zinc chromate paint primer. Keep the motor clean and dry after use and perhaps wax it. That may help prevent the minor corrosion issue.
Happy boating.
This is a straight up copy of Tohatsu (many Mercury’s are also made by Tohatsu as are most small Evinrudes, etc.). Tohatsu is without doubt a great motor.
What model tohatsu, I would like a better carb, mine is very finicky? Using ethanol free fuel and ngk plugs but still tough to start
That manual looks very similar to the Tohatsu manuals from a few years ago... like really similar.
Good to hear. I've 30+ hours on mine and it is running great. I have a 11ft Inflatable full of fishing gear 20mph was my top speed always with 2 people. I also added the SE 200 hydrofoil to get a Quick plane at lower speed with that installed I lost end speed but still get 17mph. Great motor.
I was curios about getting parts if I ever need but someone mentioned that uses Tohatsu.
Great Video. Next do it on the water
please keep us updated on longer term review, thx!
Will do just put up a new video out on the lake this morning still runnin great thanks for the comment!!!
Thanks for sharing Tim 🙏🏻👍🏻
I just recently bought a 15hp Hangkai from AliExpress for $1462.00 I just mounted it on a 15' fiberglass skiff. I've ran it in a barrel (had to prime it with muffs at first as well) looking forward to sea trial.
Thats great! I was wondering about AliExpress i saw them online as well. Good luck with ur new motor!!!
Tim, if I push down on the kill switch button on mine it kills. Even with the safety key in. Give it a try.
Will try that!!! Thanks for the comment!!!
I do the same. Just press down.
Absolutely great review! And I'm very glad that you like your Hangkai outboard😀 No need to buy a Mercury or Yamaha. Chinese engines are just as good and cost way less! The 9.8 and 12 hp 2 stroke Hangkai outboards are based on a Tohatsu 8/9.8 so you can use Tohatsu parts to it if you want :) Btw, do you use synthetic 2 stroke oil in the fuel?
Yes the only 2 stroke marine oil Orielly carries here locally is Synthetic so thats what i used. Lol thanks for the comment!!! Glad u enjoyed the video
@@timhuggins9366 Nice! Every oil should be fully synthetic because it's much better to prevent wear compared to ordinary mineral oil.
About the fuel, you can use fuel with ethanol in it, it does no damage and your engine will emit less soot. I use E5 95 in Sweden in a Suzuki DT15 from 1984/1985 and runs with no problems. E5 95 in Sweden is like 89 octane E5 in USA. The new E10 fuel will be introduced here in Sweden in August this year and I looking forward to that!
And I enjoyed the video 😀
@@THe9-3MAnIaC thats good to know the manual said not to use anything less than 90 octane in this motor and also said no ethanol.
@@timhuggins9366 I think that the manufacturer are a bit sceptic to the quality of the ethanol. Sulfate is bad for engines, ethanol contained high levels of sulfate before, like 2010, but nowadays it exists regulations of how much sulfate that is allowed to get contained with the ethanol. . So now the E85 or ethanol isn't that bad for engines.
If you have any questions about ethanol, feel free to ask 😀
Talking about fuel and that sort of stuff: If you will store your outboard quite a long time, like a month or more, run the engine completely out of fuel in the carburetor before putting it in store. Disconnect the external fuel line from the engine and let the engine run to its shutting down, then you are sure that it's no gasoline inside the carb or very little at least. It prevents deposits in the carburetor which means less truble with dirt clogging the jets.
Your the man I have been waiting for a 12 review I love my 6hp
No sir ur the man. Lol i watched ur 6hp video several times before purchasing my 12hp amd enjoyed it everytime. Thanks for the comment Shevy!!! And keep doing what ur doing.
5:02 my kill switch looks tge same. You can press it for 2 sec to stop the motor. Try it. You need to press it harder as you think. But it schould work
Just bought this for $800 12hp, break in tomorrow
I have same force motor. Are you getting much more speed out of the 12? I want to get the 18 hangkai but not sure if it will be much faster than the force. If the 12 is faster than the 18 should be good.
I go with the 18 if ya want a little more speed. The 12 seems to run close to a 9.9 in my opinion its good, but the 18 would be a bit better. Thanks for the comment!
Thanks Tim!
I have a 12hp i just bought andi am struggling to start it up cant figure out the problem
Joseph Crowley all i did was pump the ball till it was stiff, pull the choke full out pulled till it fired pushed choke all the way in and pulled a few more times and it was running.
looks good
Did you have add gear oil when you first got yours? Because my manaul said nothing about adding gear oil.
Yes!!! Add gear oil!!
How’s the weight of this motor? Will my 10.8’ inflatable’s transom be able to support a motor this size? Thoughts?
Do you have a link to the seller I like to get the same motor as it looks you got the replacement water pump and like to get all items you did
where do you put the muffs on at
I use a garbage can, but the muffs go over the draw vents under the bottom cavatation plate. Thanks for the comment!
what is strange to me is the displacement is 169CC for a 12hp whereas the 9.9hp Mercury is 208cc and the 9.9 hp Suzuki is 327 (because it's the same as their 20hp just tuned down) The older Mercury 2 stroke 9.9hp was 169cc.. I'm thinking this motor is really a 9.9hp not a 12 as advertised..
It is, it's a rip off of a Tohatsu M9.8B. the parts are supposed to be interchangeable.
How is your motor holding up after 2 years?
Still runnin good. New video commin soon as the weather gets a little warmer!! Thanks for the comment!
Is that a short shaft or long shaft
Its actually 17 inch shaft lands right between both. Usually 15 is short and 20 is long. Thanks for the comment!!
It is a tahotsu motor
The break in schedule is pretty extensive. Any idea why? I've never heard of an engine that takes that long to break in. I'm thinking about buying one. Any thoughts?
When my brother bought his new mercury 25hp he was told 10 hour break in time on it as well. The whole reason is proper ring seating takes time thats the reason for varied rpm range and a heavy oil mix and the hours of time.
Almost all motors have around a 10 hour break in period
How's the outboard holding up
Will post a new video wen spring arrives and weather is good ran great all last year have it in storage now wuth my boat.
Where do u find replacement parts? Im sure they match another name brand right?
I have been told some mercury and tohatsu parts interchange havent had to get parts yet so im not sure which ones actually do?
Japan?
Yeah i mispoke, its china i belive. Lol it happens.
How long is the motor from mounting clamps to center of propeller I want to get one for my small aluminum boat but not sure if the motor will be to long our river ranges from 2 to 3ft.
The Hangkai is a short shaft motor the transom height on my jon is 15 inches and its perfect for that i will see about gettin u a measurement as soon as i can but hope this helps in the meantime. Thanks for the comment!!!
@@timhuggins9366 cool man thank you a bunch mine is 14 1/4 or so it's a 12ft Jon boat. It looks just rite on your boat I think it will be perfect thanks again.
Can you buy parts for this motor
How heavy is this motor? Thanks
I believe its around 80 pounds
@@timhuggins9366 just got mine and weighed it, only 58 pounds!
Does this motor have reverse?
Yes!! Has forward, neutral, and reverse.
does it have any zinc anodes to help prevent corrosion?
Dont know? Havent really researched that.
Watch my video: th-cam.com/video/8nAMn1O7P9A/w-d-xo.html
Are u sure from Japan????😅😅😅😅😅
@@norhishamkamaruddin7069 lol yeah i actually commented right after i posted this they are made in China. Lol it happens.
Tohatsu made in Japan folks Japan makes better products
Made in China not Japan
Yeah i miss spoke on that. Lol