This Christian Rap Trend NEEDS to Continue..

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  • @LukeHopp
    @LukeHopp วันที่ผ่านมา +139

    Forrest is in an incredible run rn

    • @sam-hutch
      @sam-hutch วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      That Warner link doing work for the young man

    • @MrG__2
      @MrG__2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      His music crosses genres and touches a TON of ears. My parents and my kids can wap to his jawns

    • @ExSpheriment
      @ExSpheriment วันที่ผ่านมา

      frrr

    • @NoahJaminee
      @NoahJaminee 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me ❤

    • @Jbayz
      @Jbayz 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@MrG__2 you mean panders to whites? lol

  • @kalu8652
    @kalu8652 วันที่ผ่านมา +70

    I think the Forrest / CHH collabs are definitely a symbiotic relationship. When he first started dropping with Hulvey, Hulvey was the bigger artist. He gets a lot of fire features from CHH artists that help him out as well

    • @DavidLivick
      @DavidLivick  วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Yeah, was more of a joke that stimulus package line lol, I think it benefits both.

  • @henrywoodall8006
    @henrywoodall8006 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    4:26 imo, 350 had one of the best projects of the year and is worth a mention. great video!

    • @malakaimartin543
      @malakaimartin543 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah 350s project is my favorite album this year

  • @never_separated
    @never_separated วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    I agree. I love where the space is going and these 4 things are only going up God willing!

  • @Stewfou
    @Stewfou 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

    I love Nobigdyl having two albums up right here 😂👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 4:24

  • @McNab-p2g
    @McNab-p2g วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    My top ten songs:
    1. WHAT SHALL IT PROFIT? - Torey D’Shaun, 3700Nesso
    2. Yesterday - 1k phew
    3. Pink - Lengz
    4. STOP IT - Torey D’Shaun
    5. Champion - Definitely D
    6. 4am in belize - Red Tips
    7. Destiny - Aklesso, Torey D’Shaun
    8. In Your Way - Alex Jean
    9. Die For The Party - Lecrae
    10. Buzzin’ - nobigdyl.

    • @Jbayz
      @Jbayz 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Just say the entire Torey album and be done with it. It clears all of this other stuff except maybe nobigdyl...but still.

    • @McNab-p2g
      @McNab-p2g 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @ cap, listen to those other songs and you’ll realise they’re better. Torey is good but chill out w the glazing

  • @EmmanO12345
    @EmmanO12345 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Seeing this genre evolve is so exciting I can't imagine what it'll be like in a few years

  • @Hillkicks
    @Hillkicks 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    We just can’t lose our focus on what matters, not the money, fame, people, but Jesus.

  • @leonisaacs3512
    @leonisaacs3512 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    My man back with the consistency

  • @okaywarren
    @okaywarren 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    i’d love an in depth video on the music production journey or outlook for CHH. Great video still!

  • @FaithfullyFishingForFacts
    @FaithfullyFishingForFacts วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    My faves of this year:
    Nobigdyl-renaissance
    1k phew-let go let god (anthem)
    Nobigdyl- leave it to god
    Kb-too god part 2
    Hulvey- alter
    Forest Frank- your ways better
    And more, this year was heat!

    • @Jbayz
      @Jbayz 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      wheres torey? That entire album is the best album of this year and 2024 was fire

  • @DMarrettTV
    @DMarrettTV 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Swoope - "we go on "c landed as a favorite all time for me

  • @serge.mp3
    @serge.mp3 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    All The Time is such an underrated song

    • @Garrett.t.n
      @Garrett.t.n 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Frr. I’ve listened to it to relax before bed countless times🤣

  • @CJDavis-js7mr
    @CJDavis-js7mr 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love your channel bro! Super insightful and kingdom-focused!

  • @breckwallace3469
    @breckwallace3469 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Amen, dis is fire! Leave no man behind.

  • @prestonlawrence6364
    @prestonlawrence6364 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Scottie Wop "Lullabies" is my album of the year

    • @hacky4president
      @hacky4president วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nobigdyl the people we became reimagined is way better

    • @prestonlawrence6364
      @prestonlawrence6364 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @hacky4president good album... But it's not MY album of the year

    • @spiderman9665
      @spiderman9665 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Oh yea. Just about every song was firee. Production, cadences, lyrics. I really hope Scootie Wop keeps doin what he’s doin.

  • @CJEDI7TV
    @CJEDI7TV 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Looooove this bro! Thanks for piecing this together! Now i for more music to listen to

  • @iteli
    @iteli วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Keep making these brother. I saw you commented on a video of a dude dogging on Christian Rap and calling it corny. This is nice to watch after that

    • @DavidLivick
      @DavidLivick  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Appreciate it!

  • @saltandlightministry1
    @saltandlightministry1 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    the identity part is key i am concerned with how many Christian artist are comfortable cussing, talking about their woman in sexual ways, flexing chains and just generally talking about the faith less. I think there needs to be a recognition that part of the reason chh is seen or has been seen as corny is the message(lyrics) but that message cannot be compromised

    • @brooksrichardson
      @brooksrichardson วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Which Christian artists are comfortable like that?

    • @saltandlightministry1
      @saltandlightministry1 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@brooksrichardson cussing would be someone like Kaleb Mitchell. the woman part is a number of guys honestly and the flexing also a number of guys. My thing is that I don't think every song has to be the same i'm okay with people talking about life and being vulnerable but my thing is like okay if your going to talk about other stuff what is it like what is filling the gap so to speak and if its nothing edifying then i think that's not nurturing your platform well

    • @brooksrichardson
      @brooksrichardson วันที่ผ่านมา

      gotcha I totally agree with all your saying I was just curious on who was showing those values so I can be on the watch for that. Thank you for your thoughts.

    • @James_follows_Christ
      @James_follows_Christ วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@saltandlightministry1what did Jesus say (paraphrasing ) “out of the heart proceeds evil thoughts.”- whatever is on the inside is gonna come out. It’s one thing if you’re a baby in Christ and the LORD is working on you & it’s another thing when you just say you’re Christian ,but act worldly.

    • @JackofCubes
      @JackofCubes วันที่ผ่านมา

      @saltandlightministry1 named one artist😭

  • @enchieboy
    @enchieboy วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Jon's single's this year are absolutely ridiculous in quality -- looking forward to a hopefully upcoming album

    • @Jbayz
      @Jbayz 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Wit it would be better if it wasn't a "diss track"

  • @No_boundaries872
    @No_boundaries872 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    DC3 and Still Shadey ain't spoken bout enough

  • @jt_picks
    @jt_picks 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great vid

  • @LeviSchenk-lk3qg
    @LeviSchenk-lk3qg วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Dude your videos are so good! Love watching them

    • @DavidLivick
      @DavidLivick  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Appreciate it!

  • @bigswisschh
    @bigswisschh วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Great stuff David

  • @Morelikejonas99
    @Morelikejonas99 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The people we became was my most listened to album 💿 on Spotify wrapped. And check out the homie by the name of Cyfe II. His album has amazing storytelling that’ll keep you listening from start to finish.

  • @ElliottMusser
    @ElliottMusser วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Glad practice got put on there. JHP doesn't get the love she deserves.

  • @LukeHopp
    @LukeHopp วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    maaan i Gawvi’s was def a top 3 project of the year

  • @shoptalkconvo-mak1471
    @shoptalkconvo-mak1471 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thanks for exposing these artist to me

  • @NoahJaminee
    @NoahJaminee 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I am the Truth, the Way, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me ❤

  • @its_montaay
    @its_montaay วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Bodega 2 was amazing 😭😭

  • @MarksamtheMarksman_Official
    @MarksamtheMarksman_Official วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Anike is so underated bro!

  • @diiamnds
    @diiamnds ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Really great video!!

  • @memuno6281
    @memuno6281 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    God analysis!! The new guys moving up really knows marketing and godly representation (for now). Division within the new group can definitely undo all the progress happening. Everyone needs to stay on the gospel mission even though they express there music differently. Your top 10 lists looks good too.

  • @3toinsanity
    @3toinsanity 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    indie tribe's L O W B L O W is a GAS album and deserves a listen.

    • @DavidLivick
      @DavidLivick  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ‘ACT’ is phenomenal

  • @Nivekboi
    @Nivekboi 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    since Discovering Him just over a year ago, Forrest has easily climbed up on my "favorite artists" list and man is a legend, He is a huge name in his industry, His music is good and I'm so hyped to see him on tour. (also his album "Child of God" Is straight 🔥🔥 and the deluxe is great too)

  • @markyoung695
    @markyoung695 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So many great projects. As fans we all ate good this year. I'm excited for what's to come. And David keep em coming you're doing a great job as well. Someone earlier mentioned 350. He's on a good run as well. I love your top 10 picks though.

  • @Konarali
    @Konarali วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Hyper Fenton was on absolute fire this year.

    • @Unknown2Yoo
      @Unknown2Yoo วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I feel like I'm the only one who listens to Hyper Fenton sometimes 😭

    • @Konarali
      @Konarali วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Unknown2Yoo I know the feeling, he's like a niche in a niche so I don't ever hear anyone talk about him and yet for those he reaches I'm confident they are very blessed by his work.

  • @nathanielthomas9178
    @nathanielthomas9178 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    1k’s let go let god remix ep went crazy

  • @coreyfields6932
    @coreyfields6932 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great vid!

  • @Unknown2Yoo
    @Unknown2Yoo วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Speaking of collabs, I thought it was a pretty good step when Adrion Butler ended up on Kyle Beats cypher along with I think two other Christian rappers. Speaks to the talent that's filling the genre.

  • @JoyTheDoggie
    @JoyTheDoggie วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love the editing keep it up!

  • @bwoodsjr
    @bwoodsjr วันที่ผ่านมา

    Amazing vid! Great points

  • @rzfltv2812
    @rzfltv2812 วันที่ผ่านมา

    great video!!!

  • @lifejohnson-m7c
    @lifejohnson-m7c 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love your channel bro, new fan. Do you report or reflect on up coming gospel artists as well?

    • @DavidLivick
      @DavidLivick  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Mostly just Christian Rap, But I might start going a little broader content wise.

  • @blessingtirivepi
    @blessingtirivepi 36 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    My top eight for 2024 in no particular order
    1. SCARED 2 DEATH- DJ Mykael &1995 (feat Gavin the HotRod & Selah the Corner)
    2. CHRISTIAN'S SONG- Torey D'Shaun
    3. Miracles- Hulvey
    4. GOD IS GOOD- Caleb Gordon & Forrest Frank
    5. On the radar freestyle - nobigdyl
    6. I Need Faith - Alex Jean
    7. TR!BE ON THE MOVE- DJ Mykael, 1995 & indie tribe
    8. MANDATORY- indie tribe

  • @ExSpheriment
    @ExSpheriment วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ive loved forrest since his work on Sunday Best. Im so proud of him

  • @SHARPSHEEP316
    @SHARPSHEEP316 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    WE NEED THE IMMUTABLE GOSPEL AND THE DEFINING OF SIN BACK IN CHH or it's just CLEAN HIP HOP NOT CHRISTIAN HIP HOP

  • @micellaragua
    @micellaragua วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    All the time was my most listened song on Spotify

  • @HypeHax
    @HypeHax วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is gonna be a crazy comparison but stay with me!
    Forrest frank is the Christian version of Drake in a way. For instance Drake at his best collabs with other artists and lets them kinda take over the song and he just adds to it! It sounds more like the artist featuring but Drake just makes it better. Forrest as done the same thing. The nobigdyl feature sounds like a nobigdyl song not a Forrest song. Same with the Caleb’s Gordon and Torrey song. Forest just enhances it and helps get it out there. It’s so great for CHH and Forrest honestly ! Love what’s happening right now

  • @josiahjames6873
    @josiahjames6873 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Notre Dame by Heaven on Earth was one of my favorite sounds by a CHH group this year

    • @victoriousvicz830
      @victoriousvicz830 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      The song and album came out last year but still good

  • @OrdnryChristian
    @OrdnryChristian 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Don’t forget about artist like Will Kellum, De’aris, and MTM Isiah
    They been going crazy!!!

  • @atktowrld
    @atktowrld วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love too see it!!

  • @Fernando-rp6rm
    @Fernando-rp6rm วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sevin came back from retirement and a new album dropping in January 🔥

  • @leonisaacs3512
    @leonisaacs3512 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    NK 4 tuff 🔥

  • @O012Queako
    @O012Queako 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Who else remembers when Altar was forrest frank's No. 1 song?

  • @Noski3
    @Noski3 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    MTM Isaiah is truly anointed. He gives the glory to God in his songs and uplifts his name to the truest level. It’s not about him when he raps it’s about the Lord our God, Christ Jesus. That’s the difference between him and these other Christian rappers.

    • @Noski3
      @Noski3 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I really thought I liked Christian rap when I heard hulvey, KB, lecrae, torey, Caleb, forest, dkg kie, nobigdyl, and guys like them but when I heard MTM Isaiah I knew he was different. and other honorable mentions such as Young C. Great men of God truly uplifting the Father and the Kingdom

  • @WCS_GodF4th3r
    @WCS_GodF4th3r 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I swear Christian rap went from “boy been a Christian for quite a few years” ahh bars to NoBigDyl, Andy Mineo, and an improved Lecrae w the “church clothes” series this has been going great recently

  • @jjj0026
    @jjj0026 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don’t mind an artists saying DAMN here and if if it’s a story you’re telling. For example, ANDY MINEO new project he says damn on a couple of songs. Andy Mineo is older now so his music is more PG-13, not rated G. Also think Andy is more aware of his audience now ( Secular people who believe in GOD but acknowledge they don’t have it together yet and rough around the edges). So a cuss word is nothing to that audience. I love the different and unique styles of artists now. They’re not monolithic. And THANK GOD they’re no longer corny. 😂

  • @prestonlawrence6364
    @prestonlawrence6364 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    NK4 is so underrated

  • @churchboyx
    @churchboyx 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I hope that list of CHH albums is not in order because, Come and See is supposed to be number 1.

  • @Theolaurus_Rex
    @Theolaurus_Rex 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    1K like!
    #KeepIt1K

  • @Jasquiat-f7v
    @Jasquiat-f7v วันที่ผ่านมา

    W video 🔥

  • @Karnage60
    @Karnage60 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Most of the guys are mainstream you need to listen to the underground followers of Christ like MTM Isaiah, Kijan Boone, and Walker Man

  • @lucasdraffen2649
    @lucasdraffen2649 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Identity is HUGE I agree. If you're interested, take a listen to Shai Linne's track "Washer's Warning"

  • @cheesestickfanatic
    @cheesestickfanatic วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You should check out swaizy he has a lot of potential

  • @awandethino3271
    @awandethino3271 วันที่ผ่านมา

    🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @atktowrld
    @atktowrld วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im a Christian artist also with an underground sound!!

  • @Cookiekev360
    @Cookiekev360 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I don't want to be negative but I feel like we are still far away from not being cringe. "Bro got it all he think he temu. I was blind peekaboo now I see you." Im just using the example you had in the video but to me this is just a really bad verse. And in the secular side there's probably 10x more of this but at least the more creative side of secular this verse would not pass by as good. I really do like where CHH is headed towards but I still can't say they are making new trends or making a new sound. Ive listen to a few albums this year and most of the themes and ideas in the albums are overused in every song, already done in the past, and not creative. I still can't say there's a specific sound that instantly makes you think of a CHH artist. The closest I would say is Hulvey since anytime I hear a soul sample or choir or gospel sound I can assume it's Hulvey. I like that but at this point he would need to expand on that and not over use it. We as Christians tend to emphasize on lyrics more than new sounds that challenge, and make people uncomfortable and open to new sounds/ trends/ ideas, ect... and I feel like thats why we never see a CHH Artist creating the trend or making a new sound like Kendrick (TPAP, GNX), Kanye (808s/Yeezus/College drop out), or even Tyler the creator (Igor, call me if you get lost, chromakopia). Not saying the secular artist have better messages cuz they don't but the way they make a new sound and experience and story telling is far from where we are at in CHH. The main goal isn't making Christianity as popular as we can by making music that sounds secular but to use the gift that God has giving us to our fullest extent and to glorify him. Even though these secular artists aren't glorifying God they still use their talents that God gave them the best they can and they don't try to just follow trends or make music that sounds like the most popular out now. All that to say I really hope CHH starts to lead the industry and be part of the culture but we still have a long way to go not to be most popular but to use talents best we can. Again sorry for being negative but I just wanted to give my honest opinion.

    • @jjj0026
      @jjj0026 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nobigdyl UNPLUGGED album was a standout. Live, live band and instruments 🎸 🥁 🪘 🎺

    • @thephilcharles
      @thephilcharles 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      I think christian artists need to be more intentional with the music and sound. People are attracted to characters, and just preaching all the time instead of letting them get attached to you creates this weird barrier.

    • @drewmixalot
      @drewmixalot 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Your comment points to a big problem within CHH; many “fans” are hyper critical and uninformed. It’s pretty clear that you’re either not up to date with CHH or unwilling to review it honestly because to make blanket statements like there isn’t a specific sound that makes you think of a CHH artist is wild. Listen to nobigdyl and you immediately know it’s him. Same with Miles Minnick, Jon Keith, Caleb Gordon, Battz, Jackie Hill Perry, whatuprg, 1k phew, Austin White 711, and the list goes on and on. But that same statement contradicts your other statement that they aren’t original or creative. So you think they should have an immediately recognizable sound, yet be completely original like Kanye, Kendrick and Tyler. What makes those artists good is that they have a very diverse catalogue and use a lot of creativity. The exact same thing is true with many, many CHH artists and if we’re honest we could truthfully admit that CHH artists are far more creative than the majority of secular artists and many are doing it very professionally, with high quality, and in a God-honoring way.

  • @nathanielthomas9178
    @nathanielthomas9178 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Alex Jean going crazy

  • @lexvisionary
    @lexvisionary วันที่ผ่านมา

    Alex Jean definitely my fav

  • @Jbayz
    @Jbayz 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why does forrest have to look like the most annoying type of travis kelce bro dude ped stache cali dork there is? Not to mention hes constantly pandering to a certain type of audience.

    • @Jbayz
      @Jbayz 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      literally all those artists are better than him on every song he does with them. His only good album was the modern takes on hymns album. Yal just whitttteeeee lol

  • @antwiththesauce
    @antwiththesauce วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My top songs include
    Aaron Cole’s On The Radar
    HEAVEN ON THIS EARTH
    COME THRU
    BLAST OFF/BESAME
    Look!
    BIG IN JAPAN
    Sampson
    What’s it mean to you
    I could honestly go on forever, this may be Christian raps best year yet

  • @estusestus
    @estusestus 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I was loving this video until you dropped the top 10 list without KB's album ik it 😮.
    Credibility lost 😅

    • @DavidLivick
      @DavidLivick  11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Only the deluxe version was dropped this year, the original was in 2023.

  • @RighteousEmbrace
    @RighteousEmbrace 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    JESUS IS KING 👑

  • @BarsAndBeatsEntertainment
    @BarsAndBeatsEntertainment วันที่ผ่านมา

    THE SCRIPT THO

  • @antwiththesauce
    @antwiththesauce วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    David, what you think about Aaron Cole’s album this year?

    • @DavidLivick
      @DavidLivick  วันที่ผ่านมา

      I only skimmed through it when it came out, But ill have to have a re-listen to it to have a proper take on it.
      I liked his on the radar freestyle though.

    • @walker.05
      @walker.05 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DavidLivickhand on my life and prayed 4 me on his album are heat

  • @ArjunTheCreator8
    @ArjunTheCreator8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gio is an underrated Christian rapper who deserves attention! He's awesome

  • @ForRealConfused
    @ForRealConfused วันที่ผ่านมา

    Other than bodega 2 and a few others you got to still press heavy on identity in not only christ but also as a artist. Why would someone listen to you rather than blank artist you currently sound like a ripoff of.

  • @Jbayz
    @Jbayz 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Ask yourself this. If Forrest Frank were a black dude, would he even be on the map at all?

  • @TiagoBatta
    @TiagoBatta 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    TOP 10 SONGS :
    TRIBAL COUNCIL 2 - indie tribe
    Still God - Jon Keith
    SLIDIN - indie tribe
    Rocky Road pt.2 - Caleb Gordon
    Stix - nobigdyl.
    Levitate - Jon Keith
    TR!BE ON THE MOVE - indie tribe
    Alacazam - Caleb Gordon
    PARABOLIC! - nobigdyl.
    MIA - Jon Keith
    Honorable mentions
    FIYAA - Caleb Gordon
    BLAST OF/BÉSAME - dj mykael v , 1995
    What shall it profit - Torey d’Shaun

  • @Karnage60
    @Karnage60 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Most of the guys are mainstream you need to listen to the underground followers of Christ like MTM Isaiah, Kijan Boone, and Walker Man