Welcome aboard. There are some very interesting people buried in Rochdale Cemetery. This video is the first of four I filmed there. The rest will be uploads over the coming weeks.
I would give another reason Darren not mentioned in the article, you mentioned Sir Roger Casement in 1916 connected to the Easter Rising and gun running from Germany for the Republican side,he also executed at least 15 men during the Irish War of Independence 1919-22 , he was on an IRA hit list for execution and would also have lived with this pressure more prominent people were killed at that time, not suggesting this is why he resigned, Edith Thompson would probably be at the top of his worries there were some of his 203 executions that are now questioned as to guilt including Dr Crippen...remember too that this was the second attempt at suicide he had made and at the time it was a crime.
John Ellis who volunteered for the job paid a high price and committed suicide. Two executions shook him to the core of his soul. Edith Thompson was innocent and was dragged to the gallows, also he executed an 18 year old boy and that also affected him. I guess there are prices to be paid and he certainly did.
@dretety1 typo,it was an 18 year old. By the law Thompson was guilty, but is the law without fault. Sadly what got Thompson hung was the letters she wrote about her husband, ut that doesn't mean she killed it. Actually she was calling foe help when her husband was murdered, also he boy friend even stated she had nothing to do with it. Was she guilty, really or was she simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. I bet Timothy Evans regretted to moving into 10 Rillington Place. The only thing he was guilty of is having a mind of a 12 year old.
@@Steven_Rowe Its true she pretty well convicted herself with the childish love letters and deciding to give evidence....against her Counsel's advice....Another point is was the judge and jury innocent of impartiality or was there a degree of abhorrence of a man being Cuckold by his wife.. It was still very much a Mans world back in the twenties. Did she deserve to die....possibly not but the odds were stacked against her.... perhaps she should have listened to her council.... who knows.....
Albert Pierpoint is related in some way to my family. Exactly how i am not sure of. Just what i was informed of through my family relatives as we grew up?
It's quite common to read comments on various social media sites that restoration of capital punishment for the murder of various demographics...ie:- children, police etc! very often saying ''l would pull the lever''.. Which of course is the anonymity of the internet speaking... This is a very good instance of what can happen to the man who ''Pulls the Lever''.....
I have read a book by an old long retired prison screw, who claimed Ellis the hangman’s ghost was often seen walking the landing in a part of strange ways jail in Manchester and the night screws just accepted it, I am not saying they weren’t frightened.
Hi and thank you for this information on John Ellis my Grandmother Emily Agnes’s Dewberry formally Harding was murdered in 1921 by a Frederick Keeling who was hung at Pentonville Prison by John Ellis so this has a special meaning to me
Thank you , very interesting . It is rumoured that Edith Thompson almost certainly innocent miscarried on the drop and that Evans carried the guilt until the day he himself died .
@lenniecapuano521 ... I don't know, but I also don't know of any relatives of mine who died at that time ... do you, the earliest I can go is 1968? I thought it was a very nice headstone myself.
Hiya Darren, great video again today! Never heard of this guy but the pierepoints I have heard of. Thank you 🙋 Best wishes, Annie.
I thought I would mix it up a bit. Something different. A very well known murder case next week Annie.
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Pierrepoint got sacked for punching Ellis whilst drunk on a job.
Thanks for a really interesting and informative video, from a new subscriber.
I live about 9 miles from Rochdale.
Welcome aboard. There are some very interesting people buried in Rochdale Cemetery. This video is the first of four I filmed there. The rest will be uploads over the coming weeks.
Excellent story Darren. Another piece of forgotten history. 👏👏
Thanks Kev
I would give another reason Darren not mentioned in the article, you mentioned Sir Roger Casement in 1916 connected to the Easter Rising and gun running from Germany for the Republican side,he also executed at least 15 men during the Irish War of Independence 1919-22 , he was on an IRA hit list for execution and would also have lived with this pressure more prominent people were killed at that time, not suggesting this is why he resigned, Edith Thompson would probably be at the top of his worries there were some of his 203 executions that are now questioned as to guilt including Dr Crippen...remember too that this was the second attempt at suicide he had made and at the time it was a crime.
John Ellis who volunteered for the job paid a high price and committed suicide.
Two executions shook him to the core of his soul.
Edith Thompson was innocent and was dragged to the gallows, also he executed an 18 year old boy and that also affected him.
I guess there are prices to be paid and he certainly did.
Thompson was guilty
And what is a 28 year old boy?
@dretety1 typo,it was an 18 year old.
By the law Thompson was guilty, but is the law without fault.
Sadly what got Thompson hung was the letters she wrote about her husband, ut that doesn't mean she killed it.
Actually she was calling foe help when her husband was murdered, also he boy friend even stated she had nothing to do with it.
Was she guilty, really or was she simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I bet Timothy Evans regretted to moving into 10 Rillington Place.
The only thing he was guilty of is having a mind of a 12 year old.
@@Steven_Rowe Its true she pretty well convicted herself with the childish love letters and deciding to give evidence....against her Counsel's advice....Another point is was the judge and jury innocent of impartiality or was there a degree of abhorrence of a man being Cuckold by his wife.. It was still very much a Mans world back in the twenties. Did she deserve to die....possibly not but the odds were stacked against her.... perhaps she should have listened to her council.... who knows.....
Great as always Darren 👏👏✌️it nearly always rains in Rochdale,how do you do it😢🌂
It must be my coat. It doesn't like rain.
This came up in my feed
surprised is not the word. As he was an uncle of mine. 😮
Albert Pierpoint is related in some way to my family. Exactly how i am not sure of. Just what i was informed of through my family relatives as we grew up?
Never seen anyone have their address on their gravestone before.
Well done Alan great video x
Who is Alan?
Sorry Darren hit the wrong letter teach me to do things without my glasses 😂 x
It's quite common to read comments on various social media sites that restoration of capital punishment for the murder of various demographics...ie:- children, police etc! very often saying ''l would pull the lever''.. Which of course is the anonymity of the internet speaking... This is a very good instance of what can happen to the man who ''Pulls the Lever''.....
I have read a book by an old long retired prison screw, who claimed Ellis the hangman’s ghost was often seen walking the landing in a part of strange ways jail in Manchester and the night screws just accepted it, I am not saying they weren’t frightened.
Hi and thank you for this information on John Ellis my Grandmother Emily Agnes’s Dewberry formally Harding was murdered in 1921 by a Frederick Keeling who was hung at Pentonville Prison by John Ellis so this has a special meaning to me
I am sorry to hear that.
Hanged. Pictures are hung, people are hanged.
Thanks.
Very interesting.
I've heard of him but as of yet not got around to reading about his life.
A very interesting man who gave up on life
Wrote a auto biography.
Well researched
The Good Old Days. So they say🧐👌
Thank you.
very interesting thank you
Just looked for the book I will get a copy
Brilliant. I also live in balderstone
Thank you Louise
Was that a fox, or am I seeing things.
It was a fox
ive read the book 4times
Thank you , very interesting . It is rumoured that Edith Thompson almost certainly innocent miscarried on the drop and that Evans carried the guilt until the day he himself died .
That is very interesting Sue. It is a possible reason why her execution had such an effect on Ellis.
@@gravedays8875. Indeed , this has never been confirmed by the way but the rumour persists , Edith was pregnant with her lovers child ….
2:36 Little 🦊
wouldnt you think hes family would get it cleaned
@lenniecapuano521 ... I don't know, but I also don't know of any relatives of mine who died at that time ... do you, the earliest I can go is 1968? I thought it was a very nice headstone myself.