@@TheNubaHS Monk probably S tier in blitz, though. Port is one of the strongest FC cd's in the game, and monks are the best healers at rotating out of fights.
And that is what everyone should do… Class balance went to shit when people started to jump ship on their favourite classes to play the meta one. Starting the rolling coaster of nerf/buff weve had for the past decade
I've only been playing Mistweaver for a couple of months but one thing I've noticed in Arenas is that it's really difficult for a MW to deal damage because I generally want to kite the enemy team and constantly try to LOS them. With a lot of the other healing specs they do damage from a distance or have DoTs etc. to help mitigate this.
As someone who has played MW since they launched, MW would be so much better if they just balanced it like the melee, damage weaving healer with ranged utility that it should be. they keep trying to balance it around being able to choose melee/caster and one is just always stronger than the other. I feel your frustration
Considering it took about 5 hours pre expansion to get a alt from 1-Max, everybody will be play Evoker in Arena OR suffering doing 2-3x more work to maybe Win.
I made an evoker, it spawned me level 10 in the intro. But exile's reach 1 to 10 only takes like 40 mins anyway, and then u can level faster than doing the evoker intro. So overall u save maybe 30 mins tops. Idk what level u exit the intro but prob around level 18-20, given that 1 chapter of the intro is roughly 1 and a half level in exp.
Healing in general is difficult, compared to most dps. These tier lists are good to explore and get ideas but i would look at their older videos talking about class archetypes and pick something that already fits your style!
Never try to learn PvP as healer. You will have a better experience and learning curve starting with a DPS e.g. Warrior or Hunter. When you learn the PvP mechanics and how the flow of an Arena match is going. Change to a healer and start with either Paladin or Rdruid since this two specs are do not relying to much on hard casting. Tobe honest I would even recommend a Evoker but the range will be very difficult to manage as a beginner. So really risky for beginners, though worth it when mastering.
most healers are insta cast now besides mw and holyp. I second vote for presvoker, their kit well makes up for them having shorter ranges on some healing Side note at lower ratings people usually dont kill shaman totems Lastly if you do end up taking this advice and starting dps, i would pick something that has some sort of support (shaman, priest, evoker) then you can easily spec into their healing specs when youre comfortable
Good tips by all. As a somewhat “still learning healer”, I would concur that holy paladin is pretty user friendly to learn on since the “whack a mole”, reactive style is an easier healing method over all than having to be proactive. So although I do feel that my holy paladin is a little weaker right now, I can still put out some big heal numbers along with some good basic utility and have a great time. And the plate armor and shield make you tough with some cool lore
@@Yv_K so many ppl are gaslighting its insane it removes even the little chance for druid to get some buffs, the removal of adaptive swarm was a lot and this purge meta is the biggest counter to rdruids, and they got nerfed 3 times in a row in the beta
@@kaloqnmihailov5684wahhhhh you can't press 2 buttons and do 300k HPS? You actually have to cast? I feel so bad for you. Sitting there flailing in circles pressing 4 hots was so difficult!
Not sure how, but I have been seeing a lot of monks taking top healing in pvp. By a very large margin. Last one I saw was alittle over 500 million healing in a single random bg match. Also I'm pretty shocked to see the dragon is your top pick for healing. They just feel bad to me. Like over complicated or something. I main healing, and I tried it and just didn't like it at all. I feel like they have to many buttons that need macros in order to be useful. To me the best healers are druid and disc priest. They are simple and their healing is straight forward. Both can sustain and escape if a melee jumps them spamming slows and high damage out put. The dragon only has one real escape, which is where they fly and blow fire. Thats about it, the other movement options do nothing when you are being slowed and snared over and over. They also don't have much self sustain healing or shields. So to heal you basically need to target yourself and heal then switch back to who you were trying to focus on. Idk, personally I would put the dragon down in B tier. I would like to see someone pvp using a dragon while healing. Show us how its done.
I'm gonna have an unpopular opinion here, but I don't think fistweaving should ever be the "Meta" way to play MW monk. I just don't think it fits Mist Weaver well. I think punching should be more like kittyweaving. Dont the sole way you heal. I wanna literally be controlling the mists!!
I don’t like playing any of the healers. Maybe hpal but it seems like there’s no healer style that fits me. Although i haven’t tried evoker yet Edit: you know how dope it would be to make a 4th spec for mage that’s an arcane healer or somthing like that. Omg i been preaching this gospel for years. Would be absolutely sick and so many more healers would be available since it’s one of the most popular classes
@@luizfelipemelo1098 AND MANA. WTF was that shit about, HPal gets a rework feeling insanely fun and not even a month later it's shit tier. Don't worry, they are getting another rework to being powerful again. Time to level up my DF Pal, I didn't think it would get fixed so I waited.
@@Kanoog they keep trying to reinvent the wheel and destroy our enjoyment within the game. Srry im not buying TWW, these devs in charge of paladin class have no clue to what they’re doing
I'm a returning player who hasn't played since 2012. I'm looking to pick up healing for PvP. What you recommend for a returning player? Something that's powerful and also simple/ not too common. In the past , back in WOTLK I've healed on Shaman, druid and paladin. but I'm open to anything
Druid can get you pretty far by just playing defensively and avoiding CCs. And frankly at the lower levels if you can have enemy spend 6 sec trying to CC you for 4 sec.. Who CCed who really?
I feel like resto druid so far hit way off... So far i've only seen/played vs Mistweavers, Evokers, Disc priests. Everyone else seem to do +500k HPS in SS, however i can hardly press 300k with all hots up and playing Germination etc. really frustrating. Am I the only one?
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Title should probably say from now on if SS or BG Blitz
@cethseven
Use your brain, figure it out for yourself. This video gives you all you need to know.
I think this guide is basically the same for bg blitz, only exception is mw monk goes up one rank.
@@TheNubaHS Monk probably S tier in blitz, though. Port is one of the strongest FC cd's in the game, and monks are the best healers at rotating out of fights.
MW with 11.0.5 might actually pop off, can't wait - but of course currently looks very weak from my eyes
EDIT: With the new Lightning talents with TTT
They need to revert the BFA changes to the GCD on Soothing Mist. It makes the spec slow, clunky and awkward. It was much smoother in MoP and WoD.
Assamble my boys from previous video, melee waitroom.
I like playing R-Sham because I never have to cast. I do not care what class is the best.
And that is what everyone should do… Class balance went to shit when people started to jump ship on their favourite classes to play the meta one. Starting the rolling coaster of nerf/buff weve had for the past decade
its awesome spec, i play it in PvE, but in PvP i cant handle the 45 keybinds rsham needs to have to be effective
Truth man, if I’m casting it’s because I’m panicking and it’s not a good thing.
@@occheatsoft cdew said you dont need to cast
@@BeowulfGamingyea the keybind bloat is absolutely insane on rsham. Love the spec, hate playing it because of that.
I've only been playing Mistweaver for a couple of months but one thing I've noticed in Arenas is that it's really difficult for a MW to deal damage because I generally want to kite the enemy team and constantly try to LOS them. With a lot of the other healing specs they do damage from a distance or have DoTs etc. to help mitigate this.
As someone who has played MW since they launched, MW would be so much better if they just balanced it like the melee, damage weaving healer with ranged utility that it should be. they keep trying to balance it around being able to choose melee/caster and one is just always stronger than the other. I feel your frustration
Shaman
I cant decide on Moonkin or Resto druid :( I love them both but they require 2 different sets
Considering it took about 5 hours pre expansion to get a alt from 1-Max, everybody will be play Evoker in Arena OR suffering doing 2-3x more work to maybe Win.
I made an evoker, it spawned me level 10 in the intro. But exile's reach 1 to 10 only takes like 40 mins anyway, and then u can level faster than doing the evoker intro. So overall u save maybe 30 mins tops. Idk what level u exit the intro but prob around level 18-20, given that 1 chapter of the intro is roughly 1 and a half level in exp.
what nameplates is this guy using in the evoker clips? they look so clean.
melee tierlist when? :D
im waiting for when mage is gonna get a healing spec like in SoD... and waiting for the new tank specs from SoD (rogue/shammy/lock)
You guys are nuts, Holy paladin is obviously the greatest healer atm.
Not serious.
I cant decide what I want to play resto sham or druid lol
Farrell Orchard
Wilderman Station
We can't do EVERYTHING! I mean we still have less CC than many other healers. :P
Agree to disagree with this list
Lexus Brook
Idk about anyone else, but I can kill pres evokers easier than I can kill a MW Monk. I think MW is slept on
Eino Neck
Buff wildstalker/resto
Jackson David Davis Betty Brown Steven
and best for noob trying to learn pvp? people say holy pal is beginner friendly but is also kinda weak according to tier list
Healing in general is difficult, compared to most dps. These tier lists are good to explore and get ideas but i would look at their older videos talking about class archetypes and pick something that already fits your style!
Never try to learn PvP as healer. You will have a better experience and learning curve starting with a DPS e.g. Warrior or Hunter. When you learn the PvP mechanics and how the flow of an Arena match is going. Change to a healer and start with either Paladin or Rdruid since this two specs are do not relying to much on hard casting. Tobe honest I would even recommend a Evoker but the range will be very difficult to manage as a beginner. So really risky for beginners, though worth it when mastering.
most healers are insta cast now besides mw and holyp.
I second vote for presvoker, their kit well makes up for them having shorter ranges on some healing
Side note at lower ratings people usually dont kill shaman totems
Lastly if you do end up taking this advice and starting dps, i would pick something that has some sort of support (shaman, priest, evoker) then you can easily spec into their healing specs when youre comfortable
Holy priest is a pretty simple healer, it just lacks defensives for teammates.
Good tips by all. As a somewhat “still learning healer”, I would concur that holy paladin is pretty user friendly to learn on since the “whack a mole”, reactive style is an easier healing method over all than having to be proactive. So although I do feel that my holy paladin is a little weaker right now, I can still put out some big heal numbers along with some good basic utility and have a great time. And the plate armor and shield make you tough with some cool lore
Healers now are healer/dps/tank shouldn't exist on pvp
L take
imagine putting rdruid above disc/rsham, why are you gaslighting ppl, rdruid atm is literally 4th behind pres/disc/rsham ( in that order )
Things change all the time. Personally I feel that all healers are good right now, but druids are definitely very strong.
@@kylewest5152 your duelist opinion is irrelevant, u dont even understand the game if you did you would know pres/disc are way ahead of rdruid
totally agree and the funny thing 4th means worst because almost nobody will play 5th, 6th and 7th at decent rating.
@@Yv_K so many ppl are gaslighting its insane it removes even the little chance for druid to get some buffs, the removal of adaptive swarm was a lot and this purge meta is the biggest counter to rdruids, and they got nerfed 3 times in a row in the beta
@@kaloqnmihailov5684wahhhhh you can't press 2 buttons and do 300k HPS? You actually have to cast? I feel so bad for you. Sitting there flailing in circles pressing 4 hots was so difficult!
We need a new difficulty tier list
Loads of changes next patch right ?
Alright so since I average 2400 you're telling me if I purchase you're pass I'll atleast get to 2800? 😂that's crazyyyyy hahaha
Reading the fine print on their website, the 400 rating is only guaranteed if you're under 1800
I got 2400 during Wrath, Pass on doing that ever again.
@@Aaron-oh5jg I always skip the fine print too. Damn they got me
Not sure how, but I have been seeing a lot of monks taking top healing in pvp. By a very large margin. Last one I saw was alittle over 500 million healing in a single random bg match. Also I'm pretty shocked to see the dragon is your top pick for healing. They just feel bad to me. Like over complicated or something. I main healing, and I tried it and just didn't like it at all. I feel like they have to many buttons that need macros in order to be useful. To me the best healers are druid and disc priest. They are simple and their healing is straight forward. Both can sustain and escape if a melee jumps them spamming slows and high damage out put. The dragon only has one real escape, which is where they fly and blow fire. Thats about it, the other movement options do nothing when you are being slowed and snared over and over. They also don't have much self sustain healing or shields. So to heal you basically need to target yourself and heal then switch back to who you were trying to focus on. Idk, personally I would put the dragon down in B tier. I would like to see someone pvp using a dragon while healing. Show us how its done.
Hpal is D tier not B
please specify in title this is an arena tier list.
how do you block a whole channel?
Kurt Radial
I'm gonna have an unpopular opinion here, but I don't think fistweaving should ever be the "Meta" way to play MW monk. I just don't think it fits Mist Weaver well. I think punching should be more like kittyweaving. Dont the sole way you heal. I wanna literally be controlling the mists!!
I think of it as water bending like the one from The Last Air Bender. they use their fighting style and movements to heal
I don’t like playing any of the healers. Maybe hpal but it seems like there’s no healer style that fits me. Although i haven’t tried evoker yet
Edit: you know how dope it would be to make a 4th spec for mage that’s an arcane healer or somthing like that. Omg i been preaching this gospel for years. Would be absolutely sick and so many more healers would be available since it’s one of the most popular classes
I liked holy pal until they gut our damage
@@luizfelipemelo1098 AND MANA. WTF was that shit about, HPal gets a rework feeling insanely fun and not even a month later it's shit tier. Don't worry, they are getting another rework to being powerful again. Time to level up my DF Pal, I didn't think it would get fixed so I waited.
@@Kanoog they keep trying to reinvent the wheel and destroy our enjoyment within the game. Srry im not buying TWW, these devs in charge of paladin class have no clue to what they’re doing
This Tier list must be updated just after 1 week , with Rsham as B or C tier
I will own on hpriest again and pump my brain out on fury
Spoiler alert: PRES EVOKER
Amber Trafficway
Shanahan Villages
I'm a returning player who hasn't played since 2012. I'm looking to pick up healing for PvP.
What you recommend for a returning player? Something that's powerful and also simple/ not too common.
In the past , back in WOTLK I've healed on Shaman, druid and paladin. but I'm open to anything
Druid probably the easiest
Druid can get you pretty far by just playing defensively and avoiding CCs.
And frankly at the lower levels if you can have enemy spend 6 sec trying to CC you for 4 sec.. Who CCed who really?
When melee?
I feel like resto druid so far hit way off...
So far i've only seen/played vs Mistweavers, Evokers, Disc priests.
Everyone else seem to do +500k HPS in SS, however i can hardly press 300k with all hots up and playing Germination etc. really frustrating.
Am I the only one?
Nope. Druid feels weak as fuck... The damage is too high right now. With all HOTs up, i literally cannot keep my team alive... its boring as fuck.
no i looked up this vid specifically to see where Rdruid is, feels like i have rez sickness
Nice first meme JAJA
pally is getting another huge rework to its base tree. its a little out still but it def gonna date this guide
Pally will just go from C Tier to C Tier. I have 0 hope.