Thoughts on the backlash and ESPN canceling the Barstool show? I'm really interested in what ya think on this one, Nation. As someone who has been stuck between a sponsor and hard place before, my perspective is obviously different. Hmmm...
I think it’s ironic that because of something Dave Portnoy said in the past is held against him, but when people dig up dirt on Sam Ponder or Sarah Spain, they say that they’ve grown and changed since then. Isn’t that a bit hypocritical?
I guess those judges conveniently forgot the part of the Bible where Jesus stopped a bunch of men from stoning a woman who was guilty of the same crime.
You don’t know how many comments I read looking for one person to bring this up! Did we just conveniently forget that happened. Plus, these idea Philip brings up come from the old testimony but really Christians follow the New Testament, Jesus teachings. One being no you cannot kill someone for sins because everyone even the worst criminal deserves redemption. People miss this key idea in Christianity and think we hate and condemn everyone. If we did them no one would make it because we all fall short of the glory of God. Just thank you for bringing this up!
Exactly! Finally someone brought that up! With doing so Jesus abolished the stoning law. This because we are all full of sin and should not judge others. Second? Wasn't the law separated from the Bible in The Trias Politica? Separation of church and state? I know I'm not saying it entirely correctly, but hey English is not my first lenguage. I hope this case continues and that the lady gets justice and those judges loose their jobs. Bunch of Wanna be Christians! He tried to murder her! That's even worse than adultery! I don't understand their common sense. To me this smells like angry judges who has been cheating on and still hold grudges against cheaters.
Darrell Hutchison Dude. No one writes the play book based on the mascots actions. Just as every hero has their leader Jesus didnt actually make the rules. The Bible isnt a manifesto written by Jesus. Its a compounded religious text. Jesus at the time was a criminal and an anarchist. He attacked the tax collectors and smashed their stalls and tables and threw their things out into the street and or public courtyard from within the temple. If we learnt anything from the Hero Known as Jesus Christ we learnt that is not cool. He acted in an illegal manner in reaction, due to something someone else was doing being against his personal beliefs. Jesus if he tried to stop someone legally stoning someone became a complete hypocritical person for a moment after telling people to follow the law then breaking the law then stopping someone following the law from punishing someone whom wasnt following the law. People forget that if your wife cheats whilst you are married and gets pregnant you are financially responsible and in most places she can put your name on the birth cert. Then the actual father has rights also so can also apply to be listed and have access. So next thing you are paying to keep some other guys girlfriend and kid even if they dont live with you but with the dad! So yeah why arent forced abortions a punishment for adultery? Since abortions are a right and available. We could use feelings and beliefs to say "No forced abortions are bad". But the next guy will tell you all abortions are bad then he next will say no stoning would be fairer or jail or forced labor. All things already used for thieves rapists murderers etc. Belief and feeling dont work when deciding how to put a barrier between a person an action and causing others offence or hurt. Like we lock up rapists and execute serial killers and terrorists. But they only hurt a few people 99%+ of society was unaffected. I think everyone knows someone who was cheated on or a cheater or have done so ourselves. Many many people have committed crimes done stupid thing or even committed suicide due to cheating and cheaters. So if we do the maths cheating causes more damage to men women children property society and more. Psycho killers terrorists and rapists kill a few people normally in a packed public place or assault one person in an out of the way place causing little harm over all and zero harm to anyone else. So cheating is worse over all than the worst of the worst crimes regularly leading to the worst of the worst crimes. We ban certain drugs for the subsequent consequences. We punish people who get caught with drugs under the assumption that drugs cause societal harm. We know a guy high on crack is trouble. Just the same as I know sleeping with someone elses wife is trouble. Both lead to bad situations and reactions. So I dont smoke crack or sleep with other people's wives. BUT. Most people would hold an occasional crack smoker (not a crackhead regular user) in higher regard than a person who makes a habit of sleepng with married people. Your few moments of pleasure can and will ruin many lives. It should have always been illegal if you signed a marriage certificate. Maybe not a beating but something relevant that actually deters people. Being stoned or stoned to death is just about enough to make it too scary too cheat. But saying no chocolate for a week wouldnt stop anyone. So with that all figured under current standards of law cheaters should be shot into the sun and erased from the history books. The only thing up in the damaging society ranks that can compete with cheating is genocide and mass destruction, both of which are mutually exclusive.
G mac this is just cherry picking. There is a lot of stupid and horrible shit in the Bible but strangely enough people decide to take some parts literally and ignore some parts entirely.
As portuguese citizen, this news left me speechless when I read it. I saw this a couple of days ago on r/Portugal and my reaction was “wtf?! It’s 2017 and this is a judge ruling?”. Also, keep in mind that this was a judge, not a jury. On reddit, all I saw was disappointment that this appended in our country, and people making fun of the jury. I never thought this could happen in Portugal. Specially since I think of my country as a modern one and always forward with change. But lately I’ve come to realize that, even though our society is like that, a lot of people in power aren’t. Hopefully that will be a change in our future
Yeah, the problem with society, nowadays, in America as well, is that the adults in power are unreasonable about things, whereas the young ones realize how stupid they are.
deafpool religion should not be influential over anything but one's way of life. I'm not religious but I respect having a religion. Pray, go to church, fine, but don't implement it in court. Religions are representations of faith, therefore, the content of holy books should not be put into consideration when dealing with facts and law.
I too agree that the state should have no authority in regulating the Church. Separation of church and state has nothing to do with religion influencing or even leading the state though. And i would say that the more atheist and secular a state the more corrupt and destructive a state is,
I don't mean it in the sense of our constitution. I mean it literally, Religion shouldn't be in government, and government shouldn't govern religion. It's fine to be religious, personal choice. However, policy/judgment shouldn't be crafted based on religious belief. Policy/judgment should be based on logic and what is known. Also, what proof do you have to support Atheism=corruption and destruction. What about agnostics? They evil too? Religion has done its fair share of damage, so its a bit misleading to represent half an argument.
Yeah, but a crap load of people take it too far and dont actually know what it means, it doesnt mean the president can't pray and ask others to pray with him, he's still his own individual, therefore he CAN do that
I'm not religious but Jesus stopped a woman accused of adultery from being stoned. Yes biblical law says a woman should be stoned for adultery but it also says Jesus brought the higher law and Jesus says not to stone. Not only should the Bible not be used in legal decisions, they didn't even look at the whole Bible. That guy should be in prison for a long time.
Joe Shanahan yeah that part was actually a forgery as well. The bible clearly condems adultery and calls for the death as people have done in the church for thousands of years. Stop making excuses
Hey Phil, just wanted to mention that a secretary for the Portuguese Episcopal Conference (CEP) said that the church does not condone the use of the bible in court in this situation and he also highlights thats there was a misuse of the bible since Jesus saved a woman who commited adultery from stoning.
Probably important for those who don't know, that the New Testament is Jesus' reforming of the laws of God. The Old and New testaments of the Bible are the known summarised history of the area (and or people), at the time. Stoning for adultery was (as shown) not accepted by Jesus, as he was demonstrating the acts of forgiveness and mercy. In other words, what some people consider acceptable today was rejected by Jesus, 2000 years ago.
Except what you're saying is a misrepresentation of what the Bible actually says. YOU are lying and you don't have biblical verses to back up your false claims.
Hey Phil, Portuguese person here, I just wanted to tell you that the entire country is in uproar after this mess. Everyone is going crazy because of this, also it's not the first time he has done something like this. He will most likely be fired and sued or even prosecuted. If memory serves me right women who have similar law related jobs are also protesting this. Please don't think that our country supports this. It's only a handful of very stupid people who should be fired, Portugal 100% supports equality, he won't go unpunished.
Lord of Vegetables Cabbage Pink interessou-se nesta notucia mas a controversia de pedrogão grand nao se intetessou, não morreram 65 morreram acima de 90!
When I saw this in social media I thought it was a joke. Portugal still has a lot of domestic violence and a lot of "macho" mentality but this coming from a judge it's a whole different level.
The ESPN vs Barstool controversy feels so parasitic to me. You wanted all their power (i.e. viewers) but none of their hard work or potential problems that could come from trying to claim that power.
You guys act as if Barstool isn't just limping away from this. They might not 'need' ESPN, but that crossover would have been nothing but good for them. Why would they have signed on in the first place if they didn't need them? This is the Jake Paul/Disney story all over again where the small time creator is trying to claim they don't 'need' whatever, but it's clear the corporation isn't going to hurt nearly as badly as the little fish in the long term. That's literally the price of play politics in business.
This Barstool deal is weird. I’m not the biggest fan of them but there’s no way in hell ESPN didn’t know what they were signing up for when they brought them on
Sometimes I begin to think some of these big companies are masochistic and want the bad stuff just to feel relevant and so that people pay attention to them.
As a big Barstool fan I can understand why they turn people off, they live on controversy. While I will defend that any women who have ever been directly associated them will defend their integrity in treating women with respect on the inside, I understand why people perceive them the way they do.
Dᴇᴍᴇɪᴋᴏ your comment seems irrelevant to me.. I played sports through my youth and built pcs and still game.. Doesn't mean I watched sports center or ESPN more then than I ever turn my television on today..
ESPN avoiding controversy is exactly why games need multiple outlets instead of just one channel or website. The thing about monopolies like sports channels is that they'll try to appeal to everyone which will ultimately hurt the product. Also the fact that there are multiple sports channels doesn't mean ESPN isn't a monopoly since they exclusively air whatever game is happening.
Separation of church and state is the ONLY way to go. I'm even a religious man but I think when you bring religion and state together it is bad for the church and it's bad for the nation.
It'll change about as much as the church has re: their abuses or about as much as the"christian's" opinion on trump have even after hearing how he treats women. IE: not much.
Aus Explorer so you suggest the those Trump supporters should have voted hillary because of how he treats women? Christians are taught to respect all forms of authority unless they're being told to commit a sin by autbority. They don't have to like the things he did but that doesn't mean they can't support him for other reasons
Spoiler alert : it won't; there will always be opportunistic/dedicated people who will do anything to succeed, even more so in show business where people use their appearance to become popular. Those very people are crucifying a few scapegoats and playing the victim ( while it was a reciprocal relationship) so they can gather pity points and virtue signal before going back and keeping on doing the exact same thing.
Humans can survive a lot worse. People die way too easely in shows and movies, I think thats why so many people are confused when a little girl survive being shot 6 times (two in the face) or a stewardess survive falling off 10 000 feets or a guy get struck by lightning 7 times in his life and suffer no real permanent damage from it. In general, as long as your vital organs are fine, you're fine too. Bleeding out takes a pretty long time so long as no artery is severed. People can get stabbed hundred of times (once again, thats not a figure of speech, that happens all the time) and still be fine. Cause we happen to have those things called bones that are frigging harder then steel. I'm sure you played zombie games where you exploded zombie's head with a bat but let me tell you, the bat will break long before the human skull does (altough obviously a living human might have to worry about concussions.)
She probably shielded her head and face. Nails aren't as deep as knives so she's probably incredibly messed up and probably disabled...but still alive. Remember women have survived getting acid thrown at their face.
We condemn the Middle East for using Sharia Law which is strictly religious law, so we should one hundred percent condemn the usage of the Bible as a source of Law. Both Common and Civil Law evolved to be independent from religion and it should stay that way.
Yeahboi that was Old Testament, to quote from the Bible I think it was John actually nvm I don’t wanna do the quote but Jesus said something along the lines of (talking to people who want to stone an adulterous woman) let the person who has committed no sin cast the first stone. This shows that it is wrong to kill a woman for sinning
I don't know if TV needs online content creators. There has been several instances where they are given a show and the viewership just doesn't transfer over. I think TV has issues as a platform not content.
Isn't Adam Ruins Everything doing pretty good? As much as the platform has it's problems good content's still good content. It's just about picking content people are exited enough about to want to catch ASAP. One of the Roosterteeth shows would probably pull numbers on TV if it popped up there first.
Grace, Epic Meal Time, Fine Bros, Hanna. I personally don't watch TV because it's not convenient, too many commercials and impersonal. It would have to be something very special to get me to turn on my TV.
As a Portuguese, I am glad you talked about the fires, and I am also glad you talked about the wife beater. Truth is, this is NOT OK or STANDARD in Portugal, this was some very simple minded judge that did not follow the progress of the country. I am glad you speak of this because the more people we can get speaking about this, the better we can address the situation. Lawyers in Portugal should be ashamed of this decision, and the Judge behind it should be punished by being fired or charged for wrongful conduct.
Well, first of all this is awkward. Outrageous move by the Portuguese judge, the majority of the Portuguese people are against his move and I clearly understand it. Even other judges and college teachers have come forward and said they were also against this decision. Its sad to see people like these still exist. Now, the interesting part is that my mother dated this guy for 2 years when they were younger. At the end she broke up with him basically because he was very harsh and rude torwards her and the others. They were together in the same church having catechesis classes, and he showed no love for the religion nor will to learn it. He always wanted to leave the classes as fast as he could because he was bored and didnt want to listen no more to what he thought was 'bullshit'. Its interesting now seeing him using Bible references to justify domestic violence, knowing that a few years back he couldnt tollerate the religious 'bullshit'. My mother also says that he was very agressive when talking to others and always had that mentality of superiority. He also likes to take potshots and hide or blame it on others, which is very coward. Sad to see a man like this in the upper law jobs here in Portugal. Just wanted to throw this out there so you can know a bit more about this guy. Have a great day! Also: I dont have anything against christianity btw: sry in advance for the poor english xP
ESPN is like 98% of any other business Fck anything but making money. I find it a utter miracle more stuff like this does not come out more. As I am sure most of every company real is not doing their homework on what company they buy or partner with. Just bottom line $ and cents. To think or expect otherwise is ignorant or unaware. If people do not like it do not complain do not has tag it boycott and use your dollars to make a point, period. I have hated ESPN when they shat on all the original cast that built them and how they screwed my boy Bill Simmons. How someone can beat someone with a bat with nails in it and not get 10+ years MINIMUM 5 years is utterly sickening. As for the photo guru Terry Richardson, hopefully more companies speak out, but again this is on the models to complain and file charges, and for the public to remove head from stand and vote with their wallet.
The only problem with "Fck anything but making money" & "Just bottom line $ and cents" is this model is not profitable with what they are doing. Marketing makes the world go round. The average age for the "marketing demographic" or those who are most likely to buy things like tech, clothing, etc (because they typically have no kids or other things to be financially responsible for) is 16 - 35-year-olds. "From a survey of 25,000 American consumers, the firm found that those ages 18 to 34 make up 43% of the so-called cordless population. " (www.mediapost.com/publications/article/293911/30-of-millennials-have-snipped-the-cord.html) Without views, they get no money and every year that age range of 16-35 yo continues to grow with people who are not going to get cable or other such things. My son is 8 and is completely uninterested in television. He watches TH-cam, Netflix, and other such things. If ESPN and other networks don't get their heads out of their asses death is knocking on their door. They are taking a page out of the music and video rental industries books. "Don't adjust our business model to changing times, we will be fine."
+PaisleyHearts81 get "dumped"? We're talking about a husband and wife here, it's a lot more serious than just a boyfriend and girlfriend and I would just like to point you to this law in Hong Kong: Hong Kong, a woman is allowed to kill her cheating husband, but she can only use her bare hands. ... Moreover, the secret lover of the husband is allowed to be killed in any manner chosen!
Even if the Bible condemns adultry, this decision was dumb because Jesus himself saved an adulterer from being stoned. AND Jesus condemned Peter’s violence against another soldier. So even if they use the Bible their argument is void, because the New Testament preaches forgiveness not revenge.
The problem with Jesus still saving an adulterer is that a didn't stop him from still saying that all adulterers should be shamed and that the Ten Commandments and what they initially presided over or governed should be used.
Honestly, this was shortsighted on ESPN's side, but that doesn't change that Barstool's comments are inappropriate, or that the founder's comments in the press release were narcissistic and somewhat douchey.
Totally agree, I don't really know what ESPN thought was going to happen (except I imagine there was lots of $$$ signs). But I have no sympathy for Barstool, they sound like utter trash, entertaining to the lowest common denominator.
His comments were all factual. They’ve been successful for a while already, ESPN is the one who wanted them. Sure it was a nice opportunity but Barstool doesn’t stand to lose anything by not making the show with them.
I don't know much about Portugal, but I do consider that unless a nation is a theocracy then any religious sources should be kept out of the determining of a sentence.
I think Phil is one of the few who's not afraid to say to his subscribers feel free to hit that un$ubscribe button. I admire him for that. It's that simple, if you don't like what you're hearing or seeing, it's just a click away. You don't need to wear your keyboard keys out in an outrage, just one single click on your left mouse button. :)
I think it's healthy to hear sides you don't agree with. You should argue (respectfully) but I get what you're saying. Phil is enough of a moderate that I can't imagine e people being THAT upset.
Eh, it's a bit of a stunt if you ask me. He says it because he knows he will look good and not lose anything from it. I would be shocked if even 10 people unsubscribed because of it but impresses some people and further strengthens his brand.
As someone who has studied religions before, clearly those judges don't understand their own religion. The punishment for adultery (and similarly almost every other crime in the Old Testament) was severe, but also replaced with Christian values of mercy in the New Testament. So using the Bible like that is actually very anti-Christian.
Literally to show why Jesus was needed. The Old Testament is mostly an account of what was happening at the time, the new Testament is the actual christian bit (what with the whole "spreading the word of Christ thing"). It's all well and good to give people a list of shit they shouldn't do, but without an explanation as to why it's bad they're gonna be like "but why though?" This applies to modern situations as well, people asking for communism who haven't lived in communist states, people doing drugs because they don't know how much their lives can be ruined by them. It's always more effective to show people why something is wrong than to just tell them it's wrong.
+chimeranangel ...Yeah, the whole Ten Commandments thing is total horse shit. "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." Matthew 5:17 ...Then again Jesus says you're a liar.
Ruben van der Marel The Old Testament and the Law of Moses is the Law of Death. The New Testament with Christ is the Law of Life. You can't know life without death. If you just chucked out the Old Testament you wouldn't understand the importance of the New Testament. The equivalent would be like chucking out the 1st chapter of a book if the 2nd chapter resolves the plot of the 1st. EDIT: I should also throw in that not everything was replaced. A lot of the commandments and teachings from the Old Testament still apply in the New Testament. The punishments never went away, it's more that the Atonement of Christ fulfilled those punishments allowing for mercy to replace justice. That's why things like burnt offerings were common and commanded throughout the Old Testament to symbolize Christ, but in the New Testament that was replaced once the actual sacrifice was made.
I've always been proud of my country and even though we have a lot of problems, I never thought that we would steep so low to the point of using the Biblical law to sentence someone in modern age Europe.
On the adultery story, I just have to say that what the judges did there was completely wrong. I'm Christian and I can tell you that any Christian who knows anything would know that that stuff doesn't apply anymore. The judges using that as an excuse were extremely dumb and wrong.
Thomas Czach "Well there's also Matthew 5:17, which says that Jesus didn't intend to abolish the old laws, which obviously refers to the Old Testament. So as usual when it comes to the bible you can literally have two opposing sides on an argument have biblical "justification". Which is why a system of laws shouldn't be based on the bible."
That's so refreshing to hear from a Christian. I'm not really much of a Christian anymore but I wish that more Christians would think the same way about laws in the Bible as you do.
Barstool is 1000times better than ESPN.. ESPN is a joke now for NFL sunday show.. Game day sucks... i never watched even one day of this show.. she is horrible
How can you say you wanted to separate yourself from Barstool and then name your show Barstool and put the Barstool logo on the show and not expect people to make the connection? Should’ve hired the guys for the show and have them do their Barstool schtick but NOT CALL IT BARSTOOL!
On the Portugal story - as a Christian i can say that their reference to the Bible is far out of line... JESUS HIMSELF denounced stoning an adulterous woman and instead told her to turn from her sin. They blindly referenced the Bible without proper understanding, context, or exegesis
Ian Wagoner I don't think they expected them to become pc, I think they didn't expect anyone to get triggered by the partnership but they clearly forgot what year it was
By the way, the woman that was beaten up with the baseball bat covered in nails was later kidnapped by the guy she was cheating her husband with. Crazy.
I'm from Portugal and I honestly can't remember that story. I'm not surprised when I turn on the news and there's a story of a wife/partner getting beaten or killed since that has become a recorrent event. It's a sad reality but that doesn't make it less true. What amazes me is the sentence and the justification for that sentence... people with that kind of ideology shouldn't be in positions of power.
I could not agree more. They are slowly hearing our voices though. I don't want sport highlights, talk, etc. I want none stop news of Lavar Ball, Kaepernick, kneeling, and to know ever murmur LeBron uttered. Can forget those twitter updates too!
♡venuz_babi♡ It will only get attention if it involves women. You have male children lined up for sex in Afghanistan on a certain day and time and nobody gives a shit. If if we're female children there would be celebrities holding signs and virtue signaling on Twitter.
If a woman cheats then distance yourself and lose respect for them. Don't physically harm them. Human decency. The Bible should obviously not be used for law.
I'm portuguese so just thought people should get a little more context. It's completely out of the ordinary what's is happening with this case, religion never plays a part in any branch of government since we have a strict separation of church and state (our prime minister, in most ways the equivalent to your president, is openly non-religious).
1) thank you for including the recent stories about Portugal, I don't know what motivated you and your team to look to our country, but I'm glad you did. Unfortunately, like in the USA, a lot of things only get done when the public becomes aware of them. 2) in regards to the story. This is the third or fourth time that judge uses similar arguments for domestic abuse cases, it's infuriating, and everyone, from left to right, is demanding for the invalidation of that work, and for the judge, or group of judges, to be fired. I belive the amnesty international is taking charge in this matter. 3) love your show, love the team, keep up the good work. Lots of love from Portugal
I don't think another public case of someone in power abusing their position (Terry RIchardson, in this case) will do much. I think this is barely scratching the surface, and most of it will remain under wraps.
When half the women in this industry sleep their way to the top because they want to further their career it really casts doubt over everything as a whole. Of course instances like sexual assault or forcing yourself on someone is wrong but it seems a lot of these people coming out put up with this from some producers and photographers and yet had a problem with others.
With each predator we expose, more and more people are freed from the burden of having to work with them. While it may not seem like much, it means the world to the young men and women who they have abused (or would have abused if they weren't exposed at all). Even seemingly small victories can make a big difference here.
I am a Christian and my jaw is just on the floor hearing about the Portugal case. Religious scriptures are so full of nuance and so many elements are open to interpretation that it is frankly terrifying to see governments taking it into their own hands when dishing out laws and punishment.
As a Christian, it bothers me when they use the bible as an excuse to make domestic abuse acceptable. Even using the bible as their reasoning is still an invalid excuse from a Christian standard. This verse is from the Old Testament. Any bible believing Christian will tell you that unless a law was reiterated in the New Testament, it’s accepted as history, not a law for Christians. This guy has no reason to be let go Scott free.
matt 5:17-19 Do not think that I have come to abolish the law of the prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of the pen, will by any means disappear from the law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven,.. Just, sliding this over here, don't mind me.
@ kagutsuch969: This is just my opinion, but when Jesus said he came to fulfill them, he meant that the law was not finished. So when Christ died, the law has been fulfilled; finished. For example, lets just say two people are dating. They are not married. Once they are married, their dating life is fulfilled. No longer are they are dating, but they are now husband and wife.
Jameson Moy agreed 100%. To ad to that, the laws he’s talking about are from the PROPHETS meaning the laws of the messiah’s coming and when talking about the commandments, those are certain rules being reiterated (the Ten Commandments)
As a Christian, Portugal using Old Testament law to avoid their duty to justice and the protection of women is disturbing. In John 8, the religious leaders of the day caught a woman in adultery and brought her to Jesus to try and trap him in a difficult situation. They said, “Now in the Law, Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?” After a moment Jesus replied, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.” No one did, and one by one they left. Once they were gone, Jesus said, “ Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” “No one, Lord,” she replied. “Neither do I condemn you; go, and from now on sin no more.” Definitely sounds like grounds to claim being beaten with a nail-studded bat is “biblical.” 🙄 1 Peter 3 literally says that if a man doesn’t live with his wife in an understanding way and give her honor his prayers won’t be heard by God. Abuse is taken seriously by God. Even if that man gets away with something so horrific and justice isn’t served here on earth, he’ll have to answer for his crimes before THE Judge one day. I don’t envy him that one bit.
Funny that during those times and long after marriages were arranged so no true love. Just completely unfair and stupid to believe won't cheat for people they actually like.
I actually fully agree. Especially with every show at the moment being about sexual assult this is the first show ive watched since the weinstien thing and if theres any sexual assult stories normally i just skip over them.
I think that they need to be covered but something uplifting or humors at the end of the show would round it out well. It would be like Paul Harvey who told the news but also provided a great funny story to round it out.
On the domestic violence in Portugal. While this is clearly less often implemented, I see this as the same as Sharia law in Muslim countries, and I think we should treat it the same way. And say hey maybe we shouldn't use books written thousands of years ago as a modern president for human rights.
actually, religion is an influence in the justice system. The christian notion that you don't need to extract justice in full probably helped the shift away from eye-for-an-eye codes of justice (more about vengeance). In american justice, this is reflected by the notion that punishment needs to serve a purpose to avoid simply being cruelty. And while a lot of justice systems might take the old testament path (stonings, etc), others might draw from more positive bits of religion (eg. the notion that people can change).
I have two things to address. 1. If a man can beat a woman for cheating on him, can a woman also beat her husband for the same humiliating act? Not condoning it just wondering how this is fair and just and why is it just aimed at women. Adultery is awful, but no one deserves that. 2. Now that females are taking down sexual harassment can Hollywood start focusing on all the pedophilia? Children have no voice or way to protect themselves, yet through all of this no one has spoken out for the kids dealing with this. Hollywood is filled with registered pedophiles and no one cares, why? Look it up, it's horrifically sad and equally unacceptable!
Not everybody lives their life to make the world better. Some people gotta worry about themselves. It sucks but I wouldn't put myself in that position either.
Yashiteru, I think Sam Ponder has the same beliefs. Why else would she bring up a three year old clip? She must not have wanted to work with people who thought so negatively of her.
literally tho.... it’s a little bit embarrassing to watch it sucks because honest, hardworking people probably work for barstool and the fate of their employment is in the hands of this child
Love the barstool media I choose to consume. There are some great podcasts on their site that are only 50% sports and the hosts are hilarious. As it goes with other podcasts they have running jokes and unique segments that I share with shopmates often.
Mario mario no it’s not. The Bible doesn’t say you can kill people because of adultery. In fact, Jesus saved a woman from being killed for adultery. It uses the laws that existed when the Bible was written not the laws the Bible created. There aren’t many Christians who think you should kill someone for adultery.
Jack Berry Funny how the Portuguese judges mentioned the law that was evident during the time of the bible, but they skip over that part where Jesus saves a women who committed adultery. Like, why even mention the bible in the first place? Why not just mention a history book?
It's crazy that they used the bible in reference to this case. Look at John 7:8-11 (In refence to the bible) When they were going to kill an adulterous woman Jesus stopped them and and said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." If they were going to use any part of the bible it should have been that.
I think that should be an example of why Jesus shouldn't even be considered to be the same god as the one of the old testament. Jesus was to Judaism as Martin Luther was to Catholic Christianity. The only difference with jesus is he got overhyped later down the line.
matt 5:17-19 Do not think that I have come to abolish the law of the prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of the pen, will by any means disappear from the law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven,..
kagutsuchi969 It's true, Jesus didn't come to change the laws. He came to change their way of thinking. Jesus teaches, in the new testament, that we should treat each other with forgiveness and love, not with harsh discipline. However this is just my way of looking at it. You have just as much right to believe what you want.
I am most definitely a follower of Jesus and love the Bible and believe it is the truth - but it is stories like that from Portugal that makes me okay with us not following it explicitly in government because, as this scenario shows, it can be horribly misinterpreted. And as the tons of denominations goes to show, even Christians argue about interpretation.
Portugal also has separation between church and state. The problem was this: the judges were horrible assholes, plain and simple. They shouldn't be allowed to judge if they are making sentences like these. And now those at the top can't do a thing about it because one of the biggest problems in this situation is that in order to appeal the decision there will be A LOT of bureaucracy since the courts are somewhat independent. There's a reason why even religious people in Portugal - that exist less and less - are shaking their head in desbelief at the situation: it shouldn't happen at all.
seems like a "perfect" god should have made it clear....especially since he puts a gun that eternally tortures you against your head for not "believing in it". love that loving, slave condoning, bloodthirsty god.
mesmo? viver na ignorância e fazer comentários ridículos no youtube é melhor? o problema do mundo são pessoas como tu. don't judge a book by its cover. read, investigate don't just see the title and make rushed conclusions.
Frs Rs Ouve amor se não há nada que eu possa mudar e ver esse tipo de notícias só me vai encher a cabeça pra que é que vou deixar-me afetar por notícias as quais não posso mudar sobre a forma retrógada como lidam com a justiça no meu país? Se é suposto eu ver e calar uma notícia sobre estar a ser justificada em tribunal agressão com um pau com pregos na ponta através de um livro religioso que defende um monte de atrocidades, então eu prefiro nem ver.
Honestly, ESPN is a family-friendly company, but many companies buy into auxiliary markets. I think ESPN was hoping their ownership would slide under the judgement radar and net them big profits, with any backlash directed at barstool instead.
I'm Portuguese, so please hear me out: I've seen NOBODY agree with this judicial decision. It's laughing matter across discussions. Not even conservatives support this decision and one of the biggest concerns in the media is what kind of picture does this paint of Portugal to Europe and the world. So I'm here to try and give you a better understanding of our cultural values. Although the Catholic Church is very much rooted in our lives most people (especially young people) are either secular Christians or atheists. This is unprecedented in XXI and XX century Portugal history and should be treated as a bizarre outlier instead of an example of Portuguese Law and culture. For example, I was myself subjected to Catholic teaching when I was young and I certainly feel like the norm being an outspoken atheist now. At least in the bigger cities, defending anything resembling Church-bound political ideas is very heavily shunned upon, ridiculed and may even spark public outrage. The only reason this case hasn't is that #1 Portuguese don't usually become publicly outraged, like most Southern and Central Europeans do, #2 people are struggling to understand if this is real/nobody really sees this as relevant because wtf it sounds like the setup for a joke... Except for, of course, feminist groups who use this as "proof" that a fight for women's rights is still very much needed in Portugal. Domestic Violence really is a problem and chauvinists are disseminated everywhere, like in all countries, but it IS publicly discussed and a man will get lifetime shame if anyone discovers he's been beating his wife. Even male victims of domestic violence are starting to get mainstream media attention - female aggressors are the ones being systematically pardoned by our culture and even judicial system. This domestic violence theme is becoming less and less of a taboo. I'm ashamed by this case and hope the judicial system eventually solves this jaw-dropping case and the Portuguese judge general ethos and pathos are not hurt in the public sphere - many intellectually honest and otherwise great people fill that role everyday and a drop in public trust would severely disservice their efforts.
Wow, so does this mean that the separation of Church and State is a bit more blurred in Portugal? I could scarcely believe it when you reported the reasoning behind the sentencing.
I want to be as tolerant of religion as I used to be but the older I get, the more disgusted I am with the things that people are willing to be lenient of in the name of religion. It's an overly abused excuse and it's frankly fucking disgusting. Whether it's the hindi caste system or abrahamic violence it's so utterly repugnant that I get more and more bitter and struggle harder and harder to have an open mind or not let the bad color my perception of people when they talk about their religion. It's a hard fight to not be the bitter douchebag atheist to people who don't deserve it.
I just love it when people use the Bible as an excuse for ones actions. If you take the Bible’s word as law then you’re also saying that slavery is something that we should bring back because Exodus 21, Deuteronomy 15, and Leviticus 25 all talk about the laws governing buying, owning, and selling slaves.
I mean I can just imagine Jesus preaching men to beat their cheating wives with baseball bats...with nails. Seems exactly like his philosophy. You can't have it both ways people
Both the biblical laws mentioned by the judges and myself are from the old testament which is a lot more violent portraying God as this being to be feared not so much as this loving entity. The New Testament is when God became the loving and caring being. But I agree Jesus taught people to turn the other cheek not beat someone up because they were unfaithful, thats the exact opposite of what the bible teaches(looking at the new testament and christianity as a whole)
As a Portuguese, I can say that there is a lot of people in Portugal that think and act that way, using the bible and outdated laws to justify such actions and is seem mostly on 40~50 year old people that where the brainwashed by the dictatorship that wanted Portugal for 41 years and it gets worst when nostalgia comes along and they start to say thing like how they miss Salazar time and how he make Portugal great and ignore all the violence, oppression and terror he caused, creating new wave of fascism oriented generation in modern times. Its just repulsing.
On the sexual accusation topic. I agree that it's a lil' bit of both. They are just looking for people to crucify and then yell 'We did something!' And then another Harvey Weinstein will appear, but hopefully this time new ways of dealing with this cases can appear and people can ask themselves if it's another Harvey W case and deal with it much sooner.
Thoughts on the backlash and ESPN canceling the Barstool show? I'm really interested in what ya think on this one, Nation. As someone who has been stuck between a sponsor and hard place before, my perspective is obviously different. Hmmm...
Philip DeFranco yeah yeah fill me ip
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My perspective is Saturdays are for the boys and Espn must respect that
12 minutes? Is it Be Nice To James Day, today? Where's Joe? He'd know.
I think it’s ironic that because of something Dave Portnoy said in the past is held against him, but when people dig up dirt on Sam Ponder or Sarah Spain, they say that they’ve grown and changed since then. Isn’t that a bit hypocritical?
Barstool is being talked about on platforms they never would have, had they not got in bed w/ ESPN. Barstool wins here. They thrive on controversy.
I guess those judges conveniently forgot the part of the Bible where Jesus stopped a bunch of men from stoning a woman who was guilty of the same crime.
You don’t know how many comments I read looking for one person to bring this up! Did we just conveniently forget that happened. Plus, these idea Philip brings up come from the old testimony but really Christians follow the New Testament, Jesus teachings. One being no you cannot kill someone for sins because everyone even the worst criminal deserves redemption. People miss this key idea in Christianity and think we hate and condemn everyone. If we did them no one would make it because we all fall short of the glory of God. Just thank you for bringing this up!
Exactly! Finally someone brought that up! With doing so Jesus abolished the stoning law. This because we are all full of sin and should not judge others.
Second? Wasn't the law separated from the Bible in The Trias Politica? Separation of church and state? I know I'm not saying it entirely correctly, but hey English is not my first lenguage.
I hope this case continues and that the lady gets justice and those judges loose their jobs. Bunch of Wanna be Christians! He tried to murder her! That's even worse than adultery! I don't understand their common sense.
To me this smells like angry judges who has been cheating on and still hold grudges against cheaters.
Donna_marie and I like how phill was laughing and telling them pls unsubscribe if you want to.LOL
Darrell Hutchison Dude. No one writes the play book based on the mascots actions. Just as every hero has their leader Jesus didnt actually make the rules. The Bible isnt a manifesto written by Jesus. Its a compounded religious text. Jesus at the time was a criminal and an anarchist. He attacked the tax collectors and smashed their stalls and tables and threw their things out into the street and or public courtyard from within the temple. If we learnt anything from the Hero Known as Jesus Christ we learnt that is not cool. He acted in an illegal manner in reaction, due to something someone else was doing being against his personal beliefs. Jesus if he tried to stop someone legally stoning someone became a complete hypocritical person for a moment after telling people to follow the law then breaking the law then stopping someone following the law from punishing someone whom wasnt following the law. People forget that if your wife cheats whilst you are married and gets pregnant you are financially responsible and in most places she can put your name on the birth cert. Then the actual father has rights also so can also apply to be listed and have access. So next thing you are paying to keep some other guys girlfriend and kid even if they dont live with you but with the dad! So yeah why arent forced abortions a punishment for adultery? Since abortions are a right and available. We could use feelings and beliefs to say "No forced abortions are bad". But the next guy will tell you all abortions are bad then he next will say no stoning would be fairer or jail or forced labor. All things already used for thieves rapists murderers etc. Belief and feeling dont work when deciding how to put a barrier between a person an action and causing others offence or hurt. Like we lock up rapists and execute serial killers and terrorists. But they only hurt a few people 99%+ of society was unaffected. I think everyone knows someone who was cheated on or a cheater or have done so ourselves. Many many people have committed crimes done stupid thing or even committed suicide due to cheating and cheaters. So if we do the maths cheating causes more damage to men women children property society and more. Psycho killers terrorists and rapists kill a few people normally in a packed public place or assault one person in an out of the way place causing little harm over all and zero harm to anyone else. So cheating is worse over all than the worst of the worst crimes regularly leading to the worst of the worst crimes. We ban certain drugs for the subsequent consequences. We punish people who get caught with drugs under the assumption that drugs cause societal harm. We know a guy high on crack is trouble. Just the same as I know sleeping with someone elses wife is trouble. Both lead to bad situations and reactions. So I dont smoke crack or sleep with other people's wives. BUT. Most people would hold an occasional crack smoker (not a crackhead regular user) in higher regard than a person who makes a habit of sleepng with married people. Your few moments of pleasure can and will ruin many lives. It should have always been illegal if you signed a marriage certificate. Maybe not a beating but something relevant that actually deters people. Being stoned or stoned to death is just about enough to make it too scary too cheat. But saying no chocolate for a week wouldnt stop anyone. So with that all figured under current standards of law cheaters should be shot into the sun and erased from the history books. The only thing up in the damaging society ranks that can compete with cheating is genocide and mass destruction, both of which are mutually exclusive.
jim james Wow, she/he hurt you pretty bad. I do follow your logic though, seems like a pretty sound arguement.
Who is here after portnoy got ambushed by sam ponder at a restaurant during the pandemic 😷
I am
Watch Phil every now and again. But here because this popped up after watching the portnoy show ambushed story 👍🏼😂
She came out punching lmao
Such gold
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"He without sin cast the first stone" - Jesus Christ.
Said to those wanting to stone a woman caught in the act of adultery.
Everyone forgets that story, which is sad
...huh...?
+Ew "ANYMORE" ftfy
lmao im Christian but fricc the heckle off with those quotes
G mac this is just cherry picking. There is a lot of stupid and horrible shit in the Bible but strangely enough people decide to take some parts literally and ignore some parts entirely.
As portuguese citizen, this news left me speechless when I read it.
I saw this a couple of days ago on r/Portugal and my reaction was “wtf?! It’s 2017 and this is a judge ruling?”. Also, keep in mind that this was a judge, not a jury. On reddit, all I saw was disappointment that this appended in our country, and people making fun of the jury. I never thought this could happen in Portugal. Specially since I think of my country as a modern one and always forward with change. But lately I’ve come to realize that, even though our society is like that, a lot of people in power aren’t. Hopefully that will be a change in our future
Yeah, the problem with society, nowadays, in America as well, is that the adults in power are unreasonable about things, whereas the young ones realize how stupid they are.
Jacob C. Mayer So true.
Jacob C. Mayer Some of the young ones are proper idiots ;You have to out shout their cries if you want to be heard.
Grailsarvas I think adultery shouldn't be a possible benefit for any court system you cheat you lose. Get a divorce without doing so.
Grailsarvas
That's absurd, with that logic having an extramarital child would be considered "child abuse".
I feel the separation of church and state are not only necessary but required for a successful nation.
deafpool religion should not be influential over anything but one's way of life. I'm not religious but I respect having a religion. Pray, go to church, fine, but don't implement it in court. Religions are representations of faith, therefore, the content of holy books should not be put into consideration when dealing with facts and law.
Then you'll have the liberal paradise that is sweden with gender fluid schools and the no guns allowed mentality
I too agree that the state should have no authority in regulating the Church. Separation of church and state has nothing to do with religion influencing or even leading the state though. And i would say that the more atheist and secular a state the more corrupt and destructive a state is,
I don't mean it in the sense of our constitution. I mean it literally, Religion shouldn't be in government, and government shouldn't govern religion. It's fine to be religious, personal choice. However, policy/judgment shouldn't be crafted based on religious belief. Policy/judgment should be based on logic and what is known. Also, what proof do you have to support Atheism=corruption and destruction. What about agnostics? They evil too? Religion has done its fair share of damage, so its a bit misleading to represent half an argument.
Yeah, but a crap load of people take it too far and dont actually know what it means, it doesnt mean the president can't pray and ask others to pray with him, he's still his own individual, therefore he CAN do that
RIP ESPN. And bonus! I never heard of barstool, but I'm going to start watching NOW
This aged well
2:20 literally sounds like a sound clip straight out of a talk radio show on GTA lol.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this.
I'm not religious but Jesus stopped a woman accused of adultery from being stoned. Yes biblical law says a woman should be stoned for adultery but it also says Jesus brought the higher law and Jesus says not to stone. Not only should the Bible not be used in legal decisions, they didn't even look at the whole Bible. That guy should be in prison for a long time.
Joe Shanahan yeah that part was actually a forgery as well. The bible clearly condems adultery and calls for the death as people have done in the church for thousands of years. Stop making excuses
Mario mario Excuse me, what?
Wtf?
Hey Phil, just wanted to mention that a secretary for the Portuguese Episcopal Conference (CEP) said that the church does not condone the use of the bible in court in this situation and he also highlights thats there was a misuse of the bible since Jesus saved a woman who commited adultery from stoning.
that was Jesus' mercy, not his condemning of the practice of stoning adulterers. Don't twist the Bible to fit your agenda.
Edmond Dantès alright, cool.
Women don't HAVE to be stoned, it's just an acceptable punishment in the Bible.
Probably important for those who don't know, that the New Testament is Jesus' reforming of the laws of God. The Old and New testaments of the Bible are the known summarised history of the area (and or people), at the time. Stoning for adultery was (as shown) not accepted by Jesus, as he was demonstrating the acts of forgiveness and mercy.
In other words, what some people consider acceptable today was rejected by Jesus, 2000 years ago.
Except what you're saying is a misrepresentation of what the Bible actually says. YOU are lying and you don't have biblical verses to back up your false claims.
Hey Phil, Portuguese person here, I just wanted to tell you that the entire country is in uproar after this mess. Everyone is going crazy because of this, also it's not the first time he has done something like this. He will most likely be fired and sued or even prosecuted. If memory serves me right women who have similar law related jobs are also protesting this. Please don't think that our country supports this. It's only a handful of very stupid people who should be fired, Portugal 100% supports equality, he won't go unpunished.
Lord of Vegetables Cabbage Pink onde està a noticia??
Lord of Vegetables Cabbage Pink interessou-se nesta notucia mas a controversia de pedrogão grand nao se intetessou, não morreram 65 morreram acima de 90!
Brazil > Portugal
When I saw this in social media I thought it was a joke. Portugal still has a lot of domestic violence and a lot of "macho" mentality but this coming from a judge it's a whole different level.
Amen
The ESPN vs Barstool controversy feels so parasitic to me. You wanted all their power (i.e. viewers) but none of their hard work or potential problems that could come from trying to claim that power.
LeoP2008
Many companies do this. It’s nothing new.
You could've just said "I agree" and saved yourself some typing, since that's basically word for word what Phil said.
You guys act as if Barstool isn't just limping away from this. They might not 'need' ESPN, but that crossover would have been nothing but good for them. Why would they have signed on in the first place if they didn't need them? This is the Jake Paul/Disney story all over again where the small time creator is trying to claim they don't 'need' whatever, but it's clear the corporation isn't going to hurt nearly as badly as the little fish in the long term. That's literally the price of play politics in business.
Ok I have to say these people in Philip Defranco's video titles must have a heart attack from all the freaking out that they do.
This Barstool deal is weird. I’m not the biggest fan of them but there’s no way in hell ESPN didn’t know what they were signing up for when they brought them on
Sometimes I begin to think some of these big companies are masochistic and want the bad stuff just to feel relevant and so that people pay attention to them.
LordMelusar seeing as ESPN is kinda losing it, I totally agree with you
As a big Barstool fan I can understand why they turn people off, they live on controversy. While I will defend that any women who have ever been directly associated them will defend their integrity in treating women with respect on the inside, I understand why people perceive them the way they do.
...I've never heard of Barstool
Steven To "A gamer who doesn't know about a sports related podcast? Imagine my shock."
Steven To me either
Dᴇᴍᴇɪᴋᴏ your comment seems irrelevant to me.. I played sports through my youth and built pcs and still game.. Doesn't mean I watched sports center or ESPN more then than I ever turn my television on today..
Evox beck Clearly your focuses shifted from when you were a youth years ago. As if playing whatever sport in the primaries is relevant to today.
People can be interested in more than one thing, lmao
ESPN avoiding controversy is exactly why games need multiple outlets instead of just one channel or website. The thing about monopolies like sports channels is that they'll try to appeal to everyone which will ultimately hurt the product. Also the fact that there are multiple sports channels doesn't mean ESPN isn't a monopoly since they exclusively air whatever game is happening.
Phillip Defanco nice try but I always spellcheck comments like this
Religion and law should never be mixed. Mainly because you end up cherry picking which ones to apply and not too.
And also because big religious institutions start to get a monopoly on the law and begin pushing its own agenda on everyone that thinks differently
I don’t care about sports much so I was out to lunch until I heard “baseball bat covered in nails”.
This reminds me of how it worked in the 1400s.
It's how it should work again.
Dio troll bait
Just made me think of the modern middle east.
Driftwood Gaming an a man from 1445 i am deeply offended and sentence you to a witch hunt
Driftwood Gaming True, and how barbaric they were during that age.
Separation of church and state is the ONLY way to go. I'm even a religious man but I think when you bring religion and state together it is bad for the church and it's bad for the nation.
I hope the entertainment industry does change. But as it stands I just don't know how much it will.
Kerry Cronic Vlogs better hit it until it can't stand, then.
It'll change about as much as the church has re: their abuses or about as much as the"christian's" opinion on trump have even after hearing how he treats women. IE: not much.
Kerry Cronic Vlogs i have hope. The new directors these days seem to be better than the old hollywood crowd. For example james gunn or kevin fiege
Aus Explorer so you suggest the those Trump supporters should have voted hillary because of how he treats women? Christians are taught to respect all forms of authority unless they're being told to commit a sin by autbority. They don't have to like the things he did but that doesn't mean they can't support him for other reasons
Spoiler alert : it won't; there will always be opportunistic/dedicated people who will do anything to succeed, even more so in show business where people use their appearance to become popular. Those very people are crucifying a few scapegoats and playing the victim ( while it was a reciprocal relationship) so they can gather pity points and virtue signal before going back and keeping on doing the exact same thing.
How did she survive getting beat with a nailed bat?
Yolo Swaggins look at Glenn from the Walking Dead, he tactically pretend to die.
Humans can survive a lot worse. People die way too easely in shows and movies, I think thats why so many people are confused when a little girl survive being shot 6 times (two in the face) or a stewardess survive falling off 10 000 feets or a guy get struck by lightning 7 times in his life and suffer no real permanent damage from it.
In general, as long as your vital organs are fine, you're fine too. Bleeding out takes a pretty long time so long as no artery is severed. People can get stabbed hundred of times (once again, thats not a figure of speech, that happens all the time) and still be fine. Cause we happen to have those things called bones that are frigging harder then steel. I'm sure you played zombie games where you exploded zombie's head with a bat but let me tell you, the bat will break long before the human skull does (altough obviously a living human might have to worry about concussions.)
She probably shielded her head and face. Nails aren't as deep as knives so she's probably incredibly messed up and probably disabled...but still alive.
Remember women have survived getting acid thrown at their face.
Phillip Defranco reported.
Contrary to what tv and movies show dying by stabbing takes a lot of work.
We condemn the Middle East for using Sharia Law which is strictly religious law, so we should one hundred percent condemn the usage of the Bible as a source of Law. Both Common and Civil Law evolved to be independent from religion and it should stay that way.
Bopnan Yes! Separation of church and state all the way!
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Whilst I am a Christian I do believe they should be separate. Only thing is Sharia law is extremely abusive
NigguhWhat/Sufferinq well biblical law is still strict. Killing a woman because you thought she might be cheating is strict, right?
Yeahboi that was Old Testament, to quote from the Bible I think it was John actually nvm I don’t wanna do the quote but Jesus said something along the lines of (talking to people who want to stone an adulterous woman) let the person who has committed no sin cast the first stone. This shows that it is wrong to kill a woman for sinning
I don't know if TV needs online content creators. There has been several instances where they are given a show and the viewership just doesn't transfer over. I think TV has issues as a platform not content.
Matthew Schell I agree
They don’t need them, because they want them because they want to “kill” or “absorb” their competitors
Isn't Adam Ruins Everything doing pretty good? As much as the platform has it's problems good content's still good content. It's just about picking content people are exited enough about to want to catch ASAP. One of the Roosterteeth shows would probably pull numbers on TV if it popped up there first.
Definitely! Many TV channels don't understand quality over quantity! That's why Netflix and TH-cam blew up when they came out.
Grace, Epic Meal Time, Fine Bros, Hanna. I personally don't watch TV because it's not convenient, too many commercials and impersonal. It would have to be something very special to get me to turn on my TV.
As a Portuguese, I am glad you talked about the fires, and I am also glad you talked about the wife beater. Truth is, this is NOT OK or STANDARD in Portugal, this was some very simple minded judge that did not follow the progress of the country. I am glad you speak of this because the more people we can get speaking about this, the better we can address the situation. Lawyers in Portugal should be ashamed of this decision, and the Judge behind it should be punished by being fired or charged for wrongful conduct.
A video before 5:30???? Damn, you guys are rocking it!
Soo usually when you write “Why ppl freaks out about...” they don’t freak out
I was thinking that JUST NOW lol
"feel free to his that unsubscribe button"
this is why I like Philip
Because he is encouraging people who disagree with him to unsubscribe? Seems less like the Philip we've come to know and love.
Well, first of all this is awkward. Outrageous move by the Portuguese judge, the majority of the Portuguese people are against his move and I clearly understand it. Even other judges and college teachers have come forward and said they were also against this decision. Its sad to see people like these still exist.
Now, the interesting part is that my mother dated this guy for 2 years when they were younger. At the end she broke up with him basically because he was very harsh and rude torwards her and the others. They were together in the same church having catechesis classes, and he showed no love for the religion nor will to learn it. He always wanted to leave the classes as fast as he could because he was bored and didnt want to listen no more to what he thought was 'bullshit'. Its interesting now seeing him using Bible references to justify domestic violence, knowing that a few years back he couldnt tollerate the religious 'bullshit'. My mother also says that he was very agressive when talking to others and always had that mentality of superiority. He also likes to take potshots and hide or blame it on others, which is very coward.
Sad to see a man like this in the upper law jobs here in Portugal.
Just wanted to throw this out there so you can know a bit more about this guy.
Have a great day!
Also: I dont have anything against christianity
btw: sry in advance for the poor english xP
And there are biblical references to destroy what he is saying about domestic violence.
ESPN is like 98% of any other business Fck anything but making money. I find it a utter miracle more stuff like this does not come out more. As I am sure most of every company real is not doing their homework on what company they buy or partner with. Just bottom line $ and cents. To think or expect otherwise is ignorant or unaware. If people do not like it do not complain do not has tag it boycott and use your dollars to make a point, period. I have hated ESPN when they shat on all the original cast that built them and how they screwed my boy Bill Simmons. How someone can beat someone with a bat with nails in it and not get 10+ years MINIMUM 5 years is utterly sickening. As for the photo guru Terry Richardson, hopefully more companies speak out, but again this is on the models to complain and file charges, and for the public to remove head from stand and vote with their wallet.
Controversy isn't their brand. These schmoes certainly won't change that.
The only problem with "Fck anything but making money" & "Just bottom line $ and cents" is this model is not profitable with what they are doing.
Marketing makes the world go round. The average age for the "marketing demographic" or those who are most likely to buy things like tech, clothing, etc (because they typically have no kids or other things to be financially responsible for) is 16 - 35-year-olds.
"From a survey of 25,000 American consumers, the firm found that those ages 18 to 34 make up 43% of the so-called cordless population. " (www.mediapost.com/publications/article/293911/30-of-millennials-have-snipped-the-cord.html)
Without views, they get no money and every year that age range of 16-35 yo continues to grow with people who are not going to get cable or other such things. My son is 8 and is completely uninterested in television. He watches TH-cam, Netflix, and other such things. If ESPN and other networks don't get their heads out of their asses death is knocking on their door.
They are taking a page out of the music and video rental industries books. "Don't adjust our business model to changing times, we will be fine."
Cable packages are their golden goose. No reason to believe they couldn't just retool and pump out cheaper internet content.
Uhmm, business are there to make money..... It's called business, not charity....
"Oh, you drowned your wife because she wasn't perfect. Well, God drowned the entire world for the same reason.
Here's a wrist slap."
It's logic like this that led to the huge lack of women's rights in places like Saudi Arabia.
How did you know that I always wanted a virus? You're perfect, fake Phil.
Kris Madas that's a horrible analogy, she cheated on her husband, she deserves punishment but nothing as harsh as what he did
Meme Patrol No she doesn't deserve to be punished. The *consequence* for cheating is that you get dumped, not assaulted.
+PaisleyHearts81 get "dumped"? We're talking about a husband and wife here, it's a lot more serious than just a boyfriend and girlfriend and I would just like to point you to this law in Hong Kong: Hong Kong, a woman is allowed to kill her cheating husband, but she can only use her bare hands. ... Moreover, the secret lover of the husband is allowed to be killed in any manner chosen!
Even if the Bible condemns adultry, this decision was dumb because Jesus himself saved an adulterer from being stoned. AND Jesus condemned Peter’s violence against another soldier. So even if they use the Bible their argument is void, because the New Testament preaches forgiveness not revenge.
Ethan Holcroft where do you store this
This is the work of a backwards thinking judge who should be disbared.
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I AGREE!!! I hope Phil notices this comment.
The problem with Jesus still saving an adulterer is that a didn't stop him from still saying that all adulterers should be shamed and that the Ten Commandments and what they initially presided over or governed should be used.
Honestly, this was shortsighted on ESPN's side, but that doesn't change that Barstool's comments are inappropriate, or that the founder's comments in the press release were narcissistic and somewhat douchey.
Totally agree, I don't really know what ESPN thought was going to happen (except I imagine there was lots of $$$ signs). But I have no sympathy for Barstool, they sound like utter trash, entertaining to the lowest common denominator.
JurrassicGamer narcissism and doucheyness get views
Burg Skeletal I learned that during the 2016 presidential election
Brokenwingedheart yep, the humble selfless guy got little coverage while the entitled grandma and whiny pumpkin got all the mainstream attention.
His comments were all factual. They’ve been successful for a while already, ESPN is the one who wanted them. Sure it was a nice opportunity but Barstool doesn’t stand to lose anything by not making the show with them.
“Sam Ponder?” More like “Sam 🤔”
I love this
Jared Grillo 😂😂😂
Yes.
MrBlueD3V1L yoooo IKR, I’ve reported that comment twice already, but I think it’s gone now
Jared Grillo The Ponder Over Yonder
I don't know much about Portugal, but I do consider that unless a nation is a theocracy then any religious sources should be kept out of the determining of a sentence.
Absolutely. Religion has no part in most governments.
Mishka Rae • Girl Gamer exactly 😄
I think Phil is one of the few who's not afraid to say to his subscribers feel free to hit that un$ubscribe button. I admire him for that. It's that simple, if you don't like what you're hearing or seeing, it's just a click away. You don't need to wear your keyboard keys out in an outrage, just one single click on your left mouse button. :)
I totally agree. But why the dollar sign for the word un$ubscribe?
Creative North Yeah, while the real Philip DeFranco can utterly say that, this fucking fake Philip Defranco in this thread is begging otherwise.
I think it's healthy to hear sides you don't agree with. You should argue (respectfully) but I get what you're saying. Phil is enough of a moderate that I can't imagine e people being THAT upset.
Eh, it's a bit of a stunt if you ask me. He says it because he knows he will look good and not lose anything from it. I would be shocked if even 10 people unsubscribed because of it but impresses some people and further strengthens his brand.
The gift is a virus. I knew you loved us, Phil.
Will we ever not “just jump into it”?
As someone who has studied religions before, clearly those judges don't understand their own religion. The punishment for adultery (and similarly almost every other crime in the Old Testament) was severe, but also replaced with Christian values of mercy in the New Testament. So using the Bible like that is actually very anti-Christian.
Taehan Stott if that stuff got replaced, why is it still in the Bible?
Literally to show why Jesus was needed. The Old Testament is mostly an account of what was happening at the time, the new Testament is the actual christian bit (what with the whole "spreading the word of Christ thing"). It's all well and good to give people a list of shit they shouldn't do, but without an explanation as to why it's bad they're gonna be like "but why though?" This applies to modern situations as well, people asking for communism who haven't lived in communist states, people doing drugs because they don't know how much their lives can be ruined by them. It's always more effective to show people why something is wrong than to just tell them it's wrong.
+chimeranangel
...Yeah, the whole Ten Commandments thing is total horse shit.
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." Matthew 5:17
...Then again Jesus says you're a liar.
Ruben van der Marel The Old Testament and the Law of Moses is the Law of Death. The New Testament with Christ is the Law of Life. You can't know life without death. If you just chucked out the Old Testament you wouldn't understand the importance of the New Testament. The equivalent would be like chucking out the 1st chapter of a book if the 2nd chapter resolves the plot of the 1st.
EDIT: I should also throw in that not everything was replaced. A lot of the commandments and teachings from the Old Testament still apply in the New Testament. The punishments never went away, it's more that the Atonement of Christ fulfilled those punishments allowing for mercy to replace justice.
That's why things like burnt offerings were common and commanded throughout the Old Testament to symbolize Christ, but in the New Testament that was replaced once the actual sacrifice was made.
BigHailFan What does it mean??
I've always been proud of my country and even though we have a lot of problems, I never thought that we would steep so low to the point of using the Biblical law to sentence someone in modern age Europe.
That guy had to have paid someone or something. No way would something like that normally be done.
On the adultery story, I just have to say that what the judges did there was completely wrong. I'm Christian and I can tell you that any Christian who knows anything would know that that stuff doesn't apply anymore. The judges using that as an excuse were extremely dumb and wrong.
IronForDays uhuh.
Wait, does is the entire bible not relevant anymore or are it just the parts that our modern society sees as bad?
Ruben van der Marel the laws of the old testament don't apply, the new testament laws do though.
Thomas Czach "Well there's also Matthew 5:17, which says that Jesus didn't intend to abolish the old laws, which obviously refers to the Old Testament. So as usual when it comes to the bible you can literally have two opposing sides on an argument have biblical "justification". Which is why a system of laws shouldn't be based on the bible."
That's so refreshing to hear from a Christian. I'm not really much of a Christian anymore but I wish that more Christians would think the same way about laws in the Bible as you do.
Barstool is 1000times better than ESPN.. ESPN is a joke now for NFL sunday show.. Game day sucks... i never watched even one day of this show.. she is horrible
I honestly could not care less about the ESPN and barstool story. Does not affect me whatsoever.
How can you say you wanted to separate yourself from Barstool and then name your show Barstool and put the Barstool logo on the show and not expect people to make the connection? Should’ve hired the guys for the show and have them do their Barstool schtick but NOT CALL IT BARSTOOL!
On the Portugal story - as a Christian i can say that their reference to the Bible is far out of line... JESUS HIMSELF denounced stoning an adulterous woman and instead told her to turn from her sin. They blindly referenced the Bible without proper understanding, context, or exegesis
Thank you Phil for bringing up Portugal's case! I'm portuguese and I have to say that I'm ashamed that this is happening in my beloved country. smh
ESPN is stupid if it thinks that barstool is just going to become PC because of a partnership.
Ian Wagoner I don't think they expected them to become pc, I think they didn't expect anyone to get triggered by the partnership but they clearly forgot what year it was
15 minutes ago I hadn't heard of bartools . It was a happier time.
"but the bible thou" funny asf lol u made me hella laugh when u said that 👍🔥
gonna be honest, ive never even heard of barstool before this whole controversy (then again i dont keep up with sports)
gnixxy I kind of do but I've never heard of them
Same tbh. Definitely have zero interest in giving them any attention after this too.
To be fair you have to have a pretty below average IQ to find any interest in sports.
gnixxy
Love and watch all kinds of sports and I’ve never heard of them. I guess I’m out of the sports dude bro loop.
I’ve heard of them
By the way, the woman that was beaten up with the baseball bat covered in nails was later kidnapped by the guy she was cheating her husband with. Crazy.
I'm from Portugal and I honestly can't remember that story. I'm not surprised when I turn on the news and there's a story of a wife/partner getting beaten or killed since that has become a recorrent event. It's a sad reality but that doesn't make it less true. What amazes me is the sentence and the justification for that sentence... people with that kind of ideology shouldn't be in positions of power.
The judge made the right call.
+Dio take your meds kid.
ITT roasties that don't want to be held accountable for their actions. Stop cheating and this wouldn't happen harlots.
I can't wait until ESPN drops all those annoying sports shows and just focuses on addressing 24/7 sociopolitical issues.
I could not agree more. They are slowly hearing our voices though. I don't want sport highlights, talk, etc. I want none stop news of Lavar Ball, Kaepernick, kneeling, and to know ever murmur LeBron uttered. Can forget those twitter updates too!
Ryan Hancock lol lol lol
Can we fix child molestation in Hollywood while we're out here? That'd be great
Thank you!! I feel like nobody is recognizing the problem with pedophelia and molestation in Hollywood
Andrew S. It's insane smh
Nah, the feminists need attention. Need to fix the women problems, before we can get to touching kids.... *Satire*
♡venuz_babi♡ It will only get attention if it involves women. You have male children lined up for sex in Afghanistan on a certain day and time and nobody gives a shit. If if we're female children there would be celebrities holding signs and virtue signaling on Twitter.
R T Do something about it. It is society's fault that women are seen as these weak creatures that need constant protection.
Humm,.. I am from Portugal and never eared about this... humm, Am I totally disconnected from my country?
If a woman cheats then distance yourself and lose respect for them. Don't physically harm them. Human decency. The Bible should obviously not be used for law.
I'm portuguese so just thought people should get a little more context. It's completely out of the ordinary what's is happening with this case, religion never plays a part in any branch of government since we have a strict separation of church and state (our prime minister, in most ways the equivalent to your president, is openly non-religious).
Sports!
TomGirlGamer WHOOO!
Go Team!
1) thank you for including the recent stories about Portugal, I don't know what motivated you and your team to look to our country, but I'm glad you did. Unfortunately, like in the USA, a lot of things only get done when the public becomes aware of them.
2) in regards to the story. This is the third or fourth time that judge uses similar arguments for domestic abuse cases, it's infuriating, and everyone, from left to right, is demanding for the invalidation of that work, and for the judge, or group of judges, to be fired. I belive the amnesty international is taking charge in this matter.
3) love your show, love the team, keep up the good work. Lots of love from Portugal
Still advertiser friendly at 2 hours. Wow, That is a first in a long time.
Hey Phil, just wanted to let you know that I'm not freaking out about much of anything.
I don't think another public case of someone in power abusing their position (Terry RIchardson, in this case) will do much. I think this is barely scratching the surface, and most of it will remain under wraps.
When half the women in this industry sleep their way to the top because they want to further their career it really casts doubt over everything as a whole. Of course instances like sexual assault or forcing yourself on someone is wrong but it seems a lot of these people coming out put up with this from some producers and photographers and yet had a problem with others.
It's unfortunate, but I feel the same.
With each predator we expose, more and more people are freed from the burden of having to work with them. While it may not seem like much, it means the world to the young men and women who they have abused (or would have abused if they weren't exposed at all). Even seemingly small victories can make a big difference here.
I am a Christian and my jaw is just on the floor hearing about the Portugal case. Religious scriptures are so full of nuance and so many elements are open to interpretation that it is frankly terrifying to see governments taking it into their own hands when dishing out laws and punishment.
Thanks
PEPETHEPOPE me too
PEPETHEPOPE holy spam
As a Christian, it bothers me when they use the bible as an excuse to make domestic abuse acceptable. Even using the bible as their reasoning is still an invalid excuse from a Christian standard. This verse is from the Old Testament. Any bible believing Christian will tell you that unless a law was reiterated in the New Testament, it’s accepted as history, not a law for Christians. This guy has no reason to be let go Scott free.
Philip Boucher and the creation of man is also in the old testament.
Sofia Rodriguez and we now know that never happend.
matt 5:17-19 Do not think that I have come to abolish the law of the prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of the pen, will by any means disappear from the law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven,..
Just, sliding this over here, don't mind me.
@ kagutsuch969: This is just my opinion, but when Jesus said he came to fulfill them, he meant that the law was not finished. So when Christ died, the law has been fulfilled; finished. For example, lets just say two people are dating. They are not married. Once they are married, their dating life is fulfilled. No longer are they are dating, but they are now husband and wife.
Jameson Moy agreed 100%. To ad to that, the laws he’s talking about are from the PROPHETS meaning the laws of the messiah’s coming and when talking about the commandments, those are certain rules being reiterated (the Ten Commandments)
As a Christian, Portugal using Old Testament law to avoid their duty to justice and the protection of women is disturbing.
In John 8, the religious leaders of the day caught a woman in adultery and brought her to Jesus to try and trap him in a difficult situation. They said, “Now in the Law, Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?” After a moment Jesus replied, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.” No one did, and one by one they left. Once they were gone, Jesus said, “ Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” “No one, Lord,” she replied. “Neither do I condemn you; go, and from now on sin no more.”
Definitely sounds like grounds to claim being beaten with a nail-studded bat is “biblical.” 🙄
1 Peter 3 literally says that if a man doesn’t live with his wife in an understanding way and give her honor his prayers won’t be heard by God. Abuse is taken seriously by God.
Even if that man gets away with something so horrific and justice isn’t served here on earth, he’ll have to answer for his crimes before THE Judge one day. I don’t envy him that one bit.
Roastie got what she deserved.
Funny that during those times and long after marriages were arranged so no true love. Just completely unfair and stupid to believe won't cheat for people they actually like.
"As a Christian..."
*snooze*
Vicious Zero psst your bias is showing.
This doesnt reflect Portugal's viewpoints, just a very crazy and stupid man with shitty morales that will be fired soon
i can't even... on that court case... i can't even.... i am full or rage right now.
If we used the bible to dictate the laws wouldn't it be like implementing Sharia law but with "Christianity law"?
The moment Christianity law actually becomes a thing is the day when I will actually drink bleach. That's not a joke either.
Bolovo fake Psalms 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect,converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
I love how picky people get about the Bible. Like did that guy eat shellfish and wear blended cloth? Those are punishable offenses in the Bible too.
prettylittlegeek1 l0l
Thank you.
@Philip DeFranco can we please get 2 mins added to the show for a good news piece. Starting to get depressed with all the bad news.
I actually fully agree. Especially with every show at the moment being about sexual assult this is the first show ive watched since the weinstien thing and if theres any sexual assult stories normally i just skip over them.
I think that they need to be covered but something uplifting or humors at the end of the show would round it out well. It would be like Paul Harvey who told the news but also provided a great funny story to round it out.
“I have 14 years of catholic guilt built into me” I have NEVER heard such a relatable comment IN MY LIFE
That;s crazy he Neganed his wife and they were like naw the bible though.
That's a good way of putting it.
A true Saviour at heart
Even Negan wouldn't lucille his wives for cheating
Maderra -4 Actually, he probably would.
nah Negan would never hit a wife.
he might be one of the biggest villains but even he knows whats wrong
a cow laughing is aMOOsing
Weeb 😂😂who did this?😂😂
Love puns, thanks!
Phillip Defanco Get out of here 😑
Its MOOsic to my ears
Weeb shut plz (still good pun though)
On the domestic violence in Portugal. While this is clearly less often implemented, I see this as the same as Sharia law in Muslim countries, and I think we should treat it the same way. And say hey maybe we shouldn't use books written thousands of years ago as a modern president for human rights.
Dylan m w precedent
actually, religion is an influence in the justice system. The christian notion that you don't need to extract justice in full probably helped the shift away from eye-for-an-eye codes of justice (more about vengeance). In american justice, this is reflected by the notion that punishment needs to serve a purpose to avoid simply being cruelty. And while a lot of justice systems might take the old testament path (stonings, etc), others might draw from more positive bits of religion (eg. the notion that people can change).
Dylan, you're right.
Dylan m w
Why did I have to scroll this far for this comment?
Yes what you said make sense and I agree full heartedly with your statement
Hahahah there's always that one guy that has to go there.
I have two things to address. 1. If a man can beat a woman for cheating on him, can a woman also beat her husband for the same humiliating act? Not condoning it just wondering how this is fair and just and why is it just aimed at women. Adultery is awful, but no one deserves that. 2. Now that females are taking down sexual harassment can Hollywood start focusing on all the pedophilia? Children have no voice or way to protect themselves, yet through all of this no one has spoken out for the kids dealing with this. Hollywood is filled with registered pedophiles and no one cares, why? Look it up, it's horrifically sad and equally unacceptable!
Around the first story : what a shitty work space. As a working woman Id never get myself into all that toxic drama. Not worth the coin.
But if every woman takes that approach then isn't that how you get male dominated workspaces and attract those toxic hypermasculine people?
Yashiteru I definitely don't like it when people put it on the woman to quit her job though, instead of putting it on the company to be better
You can't force a company to hire you. If their practices actually turn down good female candidates, they'll suffer for it in the long run.
Not everybody lives their life to make the world better. Some people gotta worry about themselves. It sucks but I wouldn't put myself in that position either.
Yashiteru, I think Sam Ponder has the same beliefs. Why else would she bring up a three year old clip? She must not have wanted to work with people who thought so negatively of her.
So... what would have happened if she beat him to death for cheating?
Is the barstool President a 14 year old kid on Xbox live?
Yeah and he's made an insane empire
literally tho.... it’s a little bit embarrassing to watch
it sucks because honest, hardworking people probably work for barstool and the fate of their employment is in the hands of this child
daviduribe004 no it does matter. How you present an argument is important.
Nah, hasn't mentioned that he banged my mom yet
KaiserOrc what a coincidence!
As a portuguese citizen i am very ashamed of what happened with the court. Unbelievable how stuff like that happens in 2017
Love the barstool media I choose to consume. There are some great podcasts on their site that are only 50% sports and the hosts are hilarious. As it goes with other podcasts they have running jokes and unique segments that I share with shopmates often.
That’s not even using the Bible, that’s just taking the law from 2,000 years ago. Which is even more absurd.
Jack Berry Exactly.
Which is using the bible
Mario mario no it’s not. The Bible doesn’t say you can kill people because of adultery. In fact, Jesus saved a woman from being killed for adultery. It uses the laws that existed when the Bible was written not the laws the Bible created. There aren’t many Christians who think you should kill someone for adultery.
Jack Berry thank you.
Jack Berry Funny how the Portuguese judges mentioned the law that was evident during the time of the bible, but they skip over that part where Jesus saves a women who committed adultery. Like, why even mention the bible in the first place? Why not just mention a history book?
It's crazy that they used the bible in reference to this case. Look at John 7:8-11 (In refence to the bible) When they were going to kill an adulterous woman Jesus stopped them and and said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." If they were going to use any part of the bible it should have been that.
I think that should be an example of why Jesus shouldn't even be considered to be the same god as the one of the old testament. Jesus was to Judaism as Martin Luther was to Catholic Christianity. The only difference with jesus is he got overhyped later down the line.
matt 5:17-19 Do not think that I have come to abolish the law of the prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of the pen, will by any means disappear from the law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven,..
kagutsuchi969 It's true, Jesus didn't come to change the laws. He came to change their way of thinking. Jesus teaches, in the new testament, that we should treat each other with forgiveness and love, not with harsh discipline. However this is just my way of looking at it. You have just as much right to believe what you want.
Law was fullfilled when jesus died. He satisfied the sinners penalty.
That domestic violence story reminded me a lot of "Handmaid Tales" which is just a dystopia that I do not want...
skelly5195 exactly great reference
The handmaiden's tale?
skelly5195 avoid Saudi Arabia then
Damn, didn't even think of the similarities
I hear you on the guilt.... boy do I relate. It guided my life for to long. Now I’m able to be free, love my motorcycles, and still be a girl.
come on Phil 60% of the show talking about Barstool and ESPN? must be a slow news day.
I am most definitely a follower of Jesus and love the Bible and believe it is the truth - but it is stories like that from Portugal that makes me okay with us not following it explicitly in government because, as this scenario shows, it can be horribly misinterpreted. And as the tons of denominations goes to show, even Christians argue about interpretation.
Portugal also has separation between church and state. The problem was this: the judges were horrible assholes, plain and simple. They shouldn't be allowed to judge if they are making sentences like these.
And now those at the top can't do a thing about it because one of the biggest problems in this situation is that in order to appeal the decision there will be A LOT of bureaucracy since the courts are somewhat independent.
There's a reason why even religious people in Portugal - that exist less and less - are shaking their head in desbelief at the situation: it shouldn't happen at all.
seems like a "perfect" god should have made it clear....especially since he puts a gun that eternally tortures you against your head for not "believing in it". love that loving, slave condoning, bloodthirsty god.
CaecoAequitas1 well I think he meant to give free will. Less rules more possibilities.
CaecoAequitas1 Plus a perfect world would be boring.
Joshua Moon Mkklll
I'm from portugal, saw that on the news, turned the tv off and just felt ashamed of my country.
mesmo? viver na ignorância e fazer comentários ridículos no youtube é melhor? o problema do mundo são pessoas como tu.
don't judge a book by its cover.
read, investigate don't just see the title and make rushed conclusions.
Frs Rs Ouve amor se não há nada que eu possa mudar e ver esse tipo de notícias só me vai encher a cabeça pra que é que vou deixar-me afetar por notícias as quais não posso mudar sobre a forma retrógada como lidam com a justiça no meu país? Se é suposto eu ver e calar uma notícia sobre estar a ser justificada em tribunal agressão com um pau com pregos na ponta através de um livro religioso que defende um monte de atrocidades, então eu prefiro nem ver.
Sucks they canceled the show, the would've made so much more money the next few episodes.
Should've waited 2-3 weeks for it all to calm down.
Honestly, ESPN is a family-friendly company, but many companies buy into auxiliary markets. I think ESPN was hoping their ownership would slide under the judgement radar and net them big profits, with any backlash directed at barstool instead.
E Kemper Like how Disney itself has Touchstone Pictures, for their ADULT flicks.
Yeah, exactly
I remember when disney signed ICP to their label, that didnt last long lol..
Good point here. Most people don't realize how many brands are owned by the same few parent companies.
Never heard of Barstool Sports before this lol
I'm Portuguese, so please hear me out:
I've seen NOBODY agree with this judicial decision. It's laughing matter across discussions. Not even conservatives support this decision and one of the biggest concerns in the media is what kind of picture does this paint of Portugal to Europe and the world. So I'm here to try and give you a better understanding of our cultural values. Although the Catholic Church is very much rooted in our lives most people (especially young people) are either secular Christians or atheists. This is unprecedented in XXI and XX century Portugal history and should be treated as a bizarre outlier instead of an example of Portuguese Law and culture. For example, I was myself subjected to Catholic teaching when I was young and I certainly feel like the norm being an outspoken atheist now. At least in the bigger cities, defending anything resembling Church-bound political ideas is very heavily shunned upon, ridiculed and may even spark public outrage. The only reason this case hasn't is that #1 Portuguese don't usually become publicly outraged, like most Southern and Central Europeans do, #2 people are struggling to understand if this is real/nobody really sees this as relevant because wtf it sounds like the setup for a joke... Except for, of course, feminist groups who use this as "proof" that a fight for women's rights is still very much needed in Portugal. Domestic Violence really is a problem and chauvinists are disseminated everywhere, like in all countries, but it IS publicly discussed and a man will get lifetime shame if anyone discovers he's been beating his wife. Even male victims of domestic violence are starting to get mainstream media attention - female aggressors are the ones being systematically pardoned by our culture and even judicial system. This domestic violence theme is becoming less and less of a taboo. I'm ashamed by this case and hope the judicial system eventually solves this jaw-dropping case and the Portuguese judge general ethos and pathos are not hurt in the public sphere - many intellectually honest and otherwise great people fill that role everyday and a drop in public trust would severely disservice their efforts.
Will Phil ever not just jump into it?
Imakunipwns find out on the next Philip DeFranco show!
At least he got sentenced to SOMETHING. He could have just converted to 'you know what' and got the judges imprisoned indefinitely for heresy.
Well, Barstool wasn't lying about Sam Ponder...
Wow, so does this mean that the separation of Church and State is a bit more blurred in Portugal? I could scarcely believe it when you reported the reasoning behind the sentencing.
I want to be as tolerant of religion as I used to be but the older I get, the more disgusted I am with the things that people are willing to be lenient of in the name of religion. It's an overly abused excuse and it's frankly fucking disgusting. Whether it's the hindi caste system or abrahamic violence it's so utterly repugnant that I get more and more bitter and struggle harder and harder to have an open mind or not let the bad color my perception of people when they talk about their religion. It's a hard fight to not be the bitter douchebag atheist to people who don't deserve it.
I just love it when people use the Bible as an excuse for ones actions. If you take the Bible’s word as law then you’re also saying that slavery is something that we should bring back because Exodus 21, Deuteronomy 15, and Leviticus 25 all talk about the laws governing buying, owning, and selling slaves.
I mean I can just imagine Jesus preaching men to beat their cheating wives with baseball bats...with nails. Seems exactly like his philosophy. You can't have it both ways people
Both the biblical laws mentioned by the judges and myself are from the old testament which is a lot more violent portraying God as this being to be feared not so much as this loving entity. The New Testament is when God became the loving and caring being. But I agree Jesus taught people to turn the other cheek not beat someone up because they were unfaithful, thats the exact opposite of what the bible teaches(looking at the new testament and christianity as a whole)
As a Portuguese, I can say that there is a lot of people in Portugal that think and act that way, using the bible and outdated laws to justify such actions and is seem mostly on 40~50 year old people that where the brainwashed by the dictatorship that wanted Portugal for 41 years and it gets worst when nostalgia comes along and they start to say thing like how they miss Salazar time and how he make Portugal great and ignore all the violence, oppression and terror he caused, creating new wave of fascism oriented generation in modern times. Its just repulsing.
Come on roastie, she got what she deserved.
Old ways die hard and slow bother
They are the fastest growing media company because YOU talked about them, a year ago they would never have been on this level
I unsubbed... remembered I'm an Athiest and resubbed.
On the sexual accusation topic. I agree that it's a lil' bit of both. They are just looking for people to crucify and then yell 'We did something!' And then another Harvey Weinstein will appear, but hopefully this time new ways of dealing with this cases can appear and people can ask themselves if it's another Harvey W case and deal with it much sooner.