A few comments from someone who ran an ebike rental business. Higher U shaped handlebars are more comfortable/easier on wrists vs straight mountain bike ones- yours were somewhat high. Unless you expect to go up steep hills without pedaling, a 350w motor is all you need (250w in a pinch) and make sure it is a brushless motor and that battery is at least 36v and 9-10ah min. For comfort, look for one with at least a front fork shock and preferably any type of rear shock or a very cushy seat, especially if bike has regular combo mountain/street tires. The fat tires on yours provide some cushion. For a cat sailing the seas, look for an aluminum folding electric bike with 20/22" tires. It will be a little less comfortable for a 6'2" person to ride, (it will be fine for 5'1" person or child) but you will be able to bring it on dinghy and store it on lifelines in a waterproof bag and it will be in sub 45- 50lb category and less expensive than the Himiway. They should be sturdy enough for allowing a child seat on back of one for Rivers (need protectors to keep small feet out of spokes and places to rest feet and maybe a small removeable handlebar behind seat. You will need to pump spray it off with fresh water and you will need chain lube and should have SS spokes or you coat steel spoke with teflon/conformal spray- salt air will rust stuff quickly. Alternative is an electric scooter for adults, lots of brands with high end being Apollo which can carry 2 people in a pinch (Sailing GBU). They foldup compactly and can be store in a cabin or forward locker. Sorry for the length...
@@SailAwayVlog Just an FYI... Swagtron on their site is now selling reconditioned Swagger 5 electric scooters for $199.99 with free shipping. Has 300w motor, no-flat tires, 11 mile range (not real long) and max load of 330lbs. Have no relationship with co, just thought it might serve your needs for mobility for 1 or, in a pinch, 2 people.
Great camera work on the bike! You've got great balance and a steady hand with that selfie-stick, Eric. Had I done it, viewers would have gotten motion sickness. 🤣
Lol...yeah, that was just one of those bonehead, not paying attention things. I used to build my own bikes when I was a kid! Which has been a while ago...
Well that was a different video for sure. Still great to see you all and glad you are in the states to see family and work on the boat. Hope your stay is a happy one.
Great review, Ya'll, had my wife watch and did some research on the web page and we both agreed that was exactly what we were looking for to have on the Island in Belize we are moving to. Just ordered two.
That’s awesome! We got a notification of that from Himiway shortly after. Especially for the use you just described you’re gonna love ‘em. We’ve had a blast on this one.
I don't know how long you are allowed to keep it before you return it back to manufacturer, but if you have it long enough I for one would be interested how long before it rusts out on a boat. Especially after riding it on the beach where you pick up some salt water. No other feature would be more important for me.
The frame is 6061 aluminium, so no frame rust. The kickstand is aluminum, as are the handlebars, handlebar stem, brake levers, likely the wheel rims, and other parts. The chain, spokes, springs in various components, and likely bolts and screws are made of some kind of steel, but that is true for any bike out there.
Myself for now I'm using a Dahon cruise away 3 speed hub folder 20 inch rims and stainless frame and rims 5 years on my boats cruising and only minor rusting on drive chain when I forget to rinse when done riding .
Yeah, of course we can't comment very long term yet, but so far after over a month of very wet conditions there's no rust problem. If you had it in salt water often, you'd definitely want to fresh water rinse it every time.
Great to see you figured the assembly out, I race a Giant E Stance 1 and it goes anywhere. One issue I have is every time I wipe out the bloody thing lands on me. (I'm 65 Yrs old)
Great vid...nicely done. I would suggest to have a bike stand on the boat to store it and use the Halyard to lift to/from the dinghy, or even rig up the davit to hold the bike...I feel the bike is a necessary item depending on the age of the sailor...groceries are a bitch to carry a mile. Trips to the nearest boat store...ugh!
Good job with the promo review. I have several E-bikes at home and they are impressive. However, your summary makes sense that it would be too cumbersome to get on and off a boat. Especially this fat tire big boy. I suppose a bette alternative would be a lighter weight folding E-bike which would be lighter and take up less space. Or even better electric scooters as you know. Sorry I missed this but where are you headed after Charleston?
Wow I was catching up on your videos and wondering where you’d pop up in the states. Cooper River marina is mine also. I’ll be there next week - care to grab a beer?
They make kits to turn any standard bike into an electric bike. You should be able to do Rivers bike for under $300 no problem. Just order a kit with the correct sized tires to match the ones currently on his bike, or buy a kit with the mid-drive motor instead of the hub motor your Himiway has. I did a mid drive kit for my nephew a few years ago and it's still running strong with just a battery replacement. But they run more than the hub motor kits.
@@SailAwayVlog exactly. He's growing like a weed, and e bike tech is advancing at an insane pace as well. He is likely to outgrow anything you would buy him new right now, and it is also likely to be considered obsolete by kids in a couple years based on the speed the e bikes have been improving.
Hey you guys, that new boat looks great tied up at the you docks. Sure doesn't look out of style. I think you folks made out just fine. What name did you chose? Sail Away.
Been thinking about getting something like that for island exploring, we have some stunning places on the island here but long sandy tracks to get in and out. How does it go in really soft sand?
It did pretty well! Obviously the harder sand is no problem at all, but even the softer stuff it rolled right through with those big tires. Just requires a little more attention while driving in the soft stuff.
@@SailAwayVlog I personally love the idea of a OneWheel but I ain't made of rubber anymore!! Injuries just take so long to heal, and that scares me off. Separately, I am interested in Voice-Over work and would love to have a conversation with you about that at any time that works best for you…
@@SailAwayVlog For the places we like to cruise bikes are just not conducive or in some cases safe. Probably why they always appear for sale on the cruising pages usually after a couple completes their first year of cruising! Ha
Just an FYI Im the new owner of this bike. I’ve had it maybe 4-6 weeks. The bike is great, love it. However, I think the exposure to the rain and salt in the sailing/boating environment is not the best? After a few weeks the battery failed. Upon disassembly it was found to be severely corroded, to the point of not being repairable. Something to consider before purchasing for a boat?
Sweet bikes for sure and not a bad price, but no way in h3LL cruisers are going to keep a pair of 75 pound full size bicycles on their sailboats. Forget about the storage aspect of this, you could never lift these into the dinghy. If you want a real solution for cruisers, there are light folding e-bikes that are much better choices. We went with GoCycle's, 50-mile range, folds in 10 seconds and best of all only weighs 37 pounds...only thing not to like is the price! But you'll actually use them. These would be nice if you have an RV though.
For cruisers there are more better options. A small folding Ebike may be much better. Option if interested look at the Lithium battery review on our channel and you will see our pair of folding bikes we use them as “last mile” transportation while camping and sailing. You can also see our electric dinghy.
The instructions are for people with no imagination. Personally, I was hoping to see one that folded. One solution for carrying this on the dinghy would be to just pull up to the town dock, drop off the bike (lock it up), head out to anchor, and go to shore to use the bike. One drawback of all the electric bikes I have seen are that they much heavier than a traditional bike. My folding (me powered) bike is 28 lbs., or less than half of this bike.
You need to keep any bike protected against the salt on board anyway. They're not made for such harsh environment. At least if you buy it and want to have many years of fun with it. Riding in the water or sand the chain and drive need to be cleaned with fresh water each time.
I think Charleston City has banned ebikes. A while back a major ebike rental company came in and they didn't like it and decided to ban them from the city. Also the same goes for scooters. It might have changed but I would hate to see one of you arrested or fined for no real reason. Just check it out and see if what I am saying is true or not for your situation.
Nah, a cop comes in and out of here all the time. Just did a little search and there appears to be several e-bike rentals in Charleston. Not sure about scooters, but I think that would cause even more of an uproar...you see those things everywhere these days. Maybe it was just for the self-serve rentals? Some cities are having issues with those.
GOT 200 MILES ON MY CRUISER SO FAR SO GOOD UP THE SPEED TO 25 WITH PA 5 30MPH RIDE IT LIKE YA STOLE IT IT"S A BIG BIKE YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO USE THE PA WITHE THE GEARS OR YOU"LL GET YOURSELF IN TROUBLE
Which is why this was it's own video and not in one of our regular episodes (it's very clearly titled that it's a review video). Actual episode comes out today.
No worries at all. We've turned down most product stuff and don't want to bog down our regular videos with it. If we do more, we'll try to come up with a format that separates it more from our regular programming.
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A few comments from someone who ran an ebike rental business.
Higher U shaped handlebars are more comfortable/easier on wrists vs straight mountain bike ones- yours were somewhat high. Unless you expect to go up steep hills without pedaling, a 350w motor is all you need (250w in a pinch) and make sure it is a brushless motor and that battery is at least 36v and 9-10ah min. For comfort, look for one with at least a front fork shock and preferably any type of rear shock or a very cushy seat, especially if bike has regular combo mountain/street tires. The fat tires on yours provide some cushion. For a cat sailing the seas, look for an aluminum folding electric bike with 20/22" tires. It will be a little less comfortable for a 6'2" person to ride, (it will be fine for 5'1" person or child) but you will be able to bring it on dinghy and store it on lifelines in a waterproof bag and it will be in sub 45- 50lb category and less expensive than the Himiway. They should be sturdy enough for allowing a child seat on back of one for Rivers (need protectors to keep small feet out of spokes and places to rest feet and maybe a small removeable handlebar behind seat. You will need to pump spray it off with fresh water and you will need chain lube and should have SS spokes or you coat steel spoke with teflon/conformal spray- salt air will rust stuff quickly.
Alternative is an electric scooter for adults, lots of brands with high end being Apollo which can carry 2 people in a pinch (Sailing GBU). They foldup compactly and can be store in a cabin or forward locker.
Sorry for the length...
There is no need to apologize. Your comment is very helpful. Thank you 😊.
All good advice! Thank you!
@@SailAwayVlog Just an FYI... Swagtron on their site is now selling reconditioned Swagger 5 electric scooters for $199.99 with free shipping. Has 300w motor, no-flat tires, 11 mile range (not real long) and max load of 330lbs. Have no relationship with co, just thought it might serve your needs for mobility for 1 or, in a pinch, 2 people.
definitely it will become a must have on many cruisers
Yeah, we think so as long as you can find the space!
Great camera work on the bike! You've got great balance and a steady hand with that selfie-stick, Eric. Had I done it, viewers would have gotten motion sickness. 🤣
Glad you figured out the handlebar and front fork configuration. Great video guys, and it's hard not to like the E-bikes.
Lol...yeah, that was just one of those bonehead, not paying attention things. I used to build my own bikes when I was a kid! Which has been a while ago...
Well that was a different video for sure. Still great to see you all and glad you are in the states to see family and work on the boat. Hope your stay is a happy one.
Thanks guys! This was just a product review...actual episode coming out today!
I have the Him away and it's terrific. But for traveling I use the Lectric xp and it fits in the basement of my motorhome.
Nice!
Great review, Ya'll, had my wife watch and did some research on the web page and we both agreed that was exactly what we were looking for to have on the Island in Belize we are moving to. Just ordered two.
That’s awesome! We got a notification of that from Himiway shortly after. Especially for the use you just described you’re gonna love ‘em. We’ve had a blast on this one.
You all are natural at a promotional video 😂 I had a blast watching my sailing crew riding a bike 😂
I don't know how long you are allowed to keep it before you return it back to manufacturer, but if you have it long enough I for one would be interested how long before it rusts out on a boat. Especially after riding it on the beach where you pick up some salt water. No other feature would be more important for me.
The frame is 6061 aluminium, so no frame rust. The kickstand is aluminum, as are the handlebars, handlebar stem, brake levers, likely the wheel rims, and other parts. The chain, spokes, springs in various components, and likely bolts and screws are made of some kind of steel, but that is true for any bike out there.
Myself for now I'm using a Dahon cruise away 3 speed hub folder 20 inch rims and stainless frame and rims 5 years on my boats cruising and only minor rusting on drive chain when I forget to rinse when done riding .
Yeah, of course we can't comment very long term yet, but so far after over a month of very wet conditions there's no rust problem. If you had it in salt water often, you'd definitely want to fresh water rinse it every time.
Great to see you figured the assembly out, I race a Giant E Stance 1 and it goes anywhere. One issue I have is every time I wipe out the bloody thing lands on me. (I'm 65 Yrs old)
Lol...at least you know it's going to happen now!
More sailing, please. ⛵️👍
Coming up! Not much of that in a bike review video. Lol.
Super nice bike!!! Awesome video for sure.
Thanks!
Great vid...nicely done. I would suggest to have a bike stand on the boat to store it and use the Halyard to lift to/from the dinghy, or even rig up the davit to hold the bike...I feel the bike is a necessary item depending on the age of the sailor...groceries are a bitch to carry a mile. Trips to the nearest boat store...ugh!
Yep, that's a great idea! If you were to commit to storing the bike, it'd be worth the time to set up an easy system to get it on and off.
Great Vid. Thank you
Thanks!
Good job with the promo review. I have several E-bikes at home and they are impressive. However, your summary makes sense that it would be too cumbersome to get on and off a boat. Especially this fat tire big boy. I suppose a bette alternative would be a lighter weight folding E-bike which would be lighter and take up less space. Or even better electric scooters as you know. Sorry I missed this but where are you headed after Charleston?
Thanks! We're dipping down to St. Augustine for a short stretch, then Bahamas, then eventually Guatemala for hurricane season.
You can use some zip ties too strap down a plastic milk box for shopping or just carrying stuff .
Yeah, that would be great on the back of there!
Wow I was catching up on your videos and wondering where you’d pop up in the states. Cooper River marina is mine also. I’ll be there next week - care to grab a beer?
They make kits to turn any standard bike into an electric bike. You should be able to do Rivers bike for under $300 no problem. Just order a kit with the correct sized tires to match the ones currently on his bike, or buy a kit with the mid-drive motor instead of the hub motor your Himiway has. I did a mid drive kit for my nephew a few years ago and it's still running strong with just a battery replacement. But they run more than the hub motor kits.
Very cool! We'll have to check those out. Not the comfort and go-anywhere ability that this bike has, but a lot cheaper option.
@@SailAwayVlog exactly. He's growing like a weed, and e bike tech is advancing at an insane pace as well. He is likely to outgrow anything you would buy him new right now, and it is also likely to be considered obsolete by kids in a couple years based on the speed the e bikes have been improving.
Hey you guys, that new boat looks great tied up at the you docks. Sure doesn't look out of style. I think you folks made out just fine. What name did you chose? Sail Away.
Thanks so much! We're trying to get her prettied up. And it's "Ophelia"
I heard ‘invasive’ lol. I want that bike !!!
Lol...yeah, it was peculiarly positioned!
Been thinking about getting something like that for island exploring, we have some stunning places on the island here but long sandy tracks to get in and out. How does it go in really soft sand?
It did pretty well! Obviously the harder sand is no problem at all, but even the softer stuff it rolled right through with those big tires. Just requires a little more attention while driving in the soft stuff.
Yes Himiway , River's wants his own electric bike also hint hint :))
Haha! He's be good with an e-scooter too I think.
Like you've attested to, this makes plenty of sense at marinas. If one is reasonably agile, one-wheels offer broader options…
Yeah, very true...electric scooters also a great option if you dinghy a lot.
@@SailAwayVlog I personally love the idea of a OneWheel but I ain't made of rubber anymore!! Injuries just take so long to heal, and that scares me off.
Separately, I am interested in Voice-Over work and would love to have a conversation with you about that at any time that works best for you…
Nah, maybe for US Coastal cruisers marina hopping. Can’t imagine trying to get 2 of these in our dinghy and then off to a remote beach or dinghy dock.
haha...yeah, it would take some commitment to finding a simple way to do it. Marina hopping though...
@@SailAwayVlog For the places we like to cruise bikes are just not conducive or in some cases safe. Probably why they always appear for sale on the cruising pages usually after a couple completes their first year of cruising! Ha
The pedal thread is standard on bikes.
Just an FYI
Im the new owner of this bike. I’ve had it maybe 4-6 weeks. The bike is great, love it. However, I think the exposure to the rain and salt in the sailing/boating environment is not the best? After a few weeks the battery failed. Upon disassembly it was found to be severely corroded, to the point of not being repairable.
Something to consider before purchasing for a boat?
Definitely put some pegs on the back for Rivers feet. He needs to keep hs toes!
haha...he only gets the occasional ride. Don't want him to get too used to it!
Need a fat wheel foldable, 🥃🇨🇦🤙
Indeed! That would be awesome
Sweet bikes for sure and not a bad price, but no way in h3LL cruisers are going to keep a pair of 75 pound full size bicycles on their sailboats. Forget about the storage aspect of this, you could never lift these into the dinghy.
If you want a real solution for cruisers, there are light folding e-bikes that are much better choices. We went with GoCycle's, 50-mile range, folds in 10 seconds and best of all only weighs 37 pounds...only thing not to like is the price! But you'll actually use them. These would be nice if you have an RV though.
For cruisers there are more better options. A small folding Ebike may be much better. Option if interested look at the Lithium battery review on our channel and you will see our pair of folding bikes we use them as “last mile” transportation while camping and sailing. You can also see our electric dinghy.
The instructions are for people with no imagination. Personally, I was hoping to see one that folded. One solution for carrying this on the dinghy would be to just pull up to the town dock, drop off the bike (lock it up), head out to anchor, and go to shore to use the bike. One drawback of all the electric bikes I have seen are that they much heavier than a traditional bike. My folding (me powered) bike is 28 lbs., or less than half of this bike.
You need to keep any bike protected against the salt on board anyway. They're not made for such harsh environment. At least if you buy it and want to have many years of fun with it. Riding in the water or sand the chain and drive need to be cleaned with fresh water each time.
Most definitely. Built well, but keeping it rinsed and clean is a must.
I think Charleston City has banned ebikes. A while back a major ebike rental company came in and they didn't like it and decided to ban them from the city. Also the same goes for scooters. It might have changed but I would hate to see one of you arrested or fined for no real reason. Just check it out and see if what I am saying is true or not for your situation.
Nah, a cop comes in and out of here all the time. Just did a little search and there appears to be several e-bike rentals in Charleston. Not sure about scooters, but I think that would cause even more of an uproar...you see those things everywhere these days. Maybe it was just for the self-serve rentals? Some cities are having issues with those.
I hope you will consider wearing helmets! you need to protect your heads! Even Rivers on a non electric bike!
GOT 200 MILES ON MY CRUISER SO FAR SO GOOD UP THE SPEED TO 25 WITH PA 5 30MPH RIDE IT LIKE YA STOLE IT IT"S A BIG BIKE YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO USE THE PA WITHE THE GEARS OR YOU"LL GET YOURSELF IN TROUBLE
Nice! I never got ours up that fast!
20:09 min. of add. Hope they payed you well , that sucks.....
Which is why this was it's own video and not in one of our regular episodes (it's very clearly titled that it's a review video). Actual episode comes out today.
@@SailAwayVlog sorry I didn't read the the caption of the video. shame on me...
No worries at all. We've turned down most product stuff and don't want to bog down our regular videos with it. If we do more, we'll try to come up with a format that separates it more from our regular programming.
Hi. For future reference, for your own protection, consider the difference between review, sponsorship, advertising and infomercial. I would be happy to help you with this. A quick guide: Assume the audience is uninformed. Millions of people write "reviews" for Amazon after purchasing a product. They may not realize your definition of review includes an incentive. Your video should make the transaction very clear. All the best!
carbo model x works better - not sponsored.
Too big , many use apollo scooters
Yeah, I think the scooter option is better for some cruisers, particularly those who only anchor.
I see enough commercials thanks.👎🏽👎🏽
That's why it was it's own video and clearly titled as a product review. And actually "commercials", ads, reviews, etc. is how most channels like ours can afford to keep making videos that you get to watch for free. Pretty good system.
@@SailAwayVlog free is the right price for most videos
If you see the thousands of little children mining the lithium in Africa and other countries just so you can have a ride you should be ashamed
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