Yep, they’re everywhere and companies are popping up all the time. Makes you wonder if old school bike brands like Trek and Specialized are feeling the heat from all this competition.
1:12 Expensive gear is technically not required on a motorcycle either. Ebikers should be wearing a helmet and proper gear, given the speeds they can attain.
Yes, that’s true. Good bicycle helmets are approaching motorcycle helmet prices. I tend to go more ATGATT on motorcycles because they are still quite a bit faster.
I have a Lectric ebike and a Ruckus. I never ride the ebike. Ruckus is a lot more fun. And I feel a lot safer. I wouldn't ride either one out by Walmart, but the Ruckus is preferred for running errands around a small town. Being sweaty and out of breath is not appealing, to anyone.
It's not that people don't like electric motorbikes. It's the fact that when you buy an electric motorbike you need to insure it, tax it and what not. While with an e-bike you have none of that. So its an easy way to travel fast and far without having to pay extra for taxing it, insuring it and registering it.
They’re doing quite a bit of that in Canadian cities. Trouble is that in the Canadian winter e-bikes aren’t the best mode of transport. But I agree. All roads should be built with wide shoulders for bikes.
@@DifferentSpokesTV The winters truly don't matter if the infrastructure is there and maintained. Over in the Netherlands and other biking-aware Euro countries, there's just as much (if not more) snowfall than the inhabited parts of Canada, and the biking doesn't stop in the winter just as the driving doesn't. The road crews just plow the bike paths, too. So incredibly simple.
i doubt that outside of specific countries that already do have affinity for bicycles that there will be massive surge in popularity of them. Most people tend to use most convenient and effortless means of transport, in cities that tends to be metro and or tram (in some less civilized countries individual motorized means) out of the cities that tend to be buses and cars, occasionally replaced by motorbikes in specific cases. Cycling tends to be a hobby rather than main means of transportation, that being said considering costs i do not believe even unasisted cycles are that avalible, i was taken aback by price of even the cheapest new one some 2 decades ago and i doubt there were any cost cuts since.
Depends on the city I guess. In Toronto, Hamilton and Ottawa I see more e-bikes than conventional bikes these days and I get why. They give older or less fit people a chance to enjoy the outdoors without dreading all the hills on the route.
I could have bought 2 Himiways for the price of my, broken at only 20 miles, Indian eFTR 1.2 Hooligan. The warranted replacement was held up for three weeks in shipping AND finally arrived missing the LED Headlight and Flyscreen ! SMH. Live and learn.
@@DifferentSpokesTV Immediately notified Super73, the carrier, and Indian. Both the light and flyscreen are in the mail. Himiway is a far greater value, but I was a loyal Indian owner and didn’t shop the market.
Energica is a far better electric motorcycle than Zero will ever be. I would pay CVO money for a Electric Electra Glide. There is more than enough weight to shuffle into batteries and the wind protection will improve mileage and the bags are the one necessity that most if not all EV motorcycles are missing. Having coworkers with e-bikes they suffer from the same issue many motorcycles do, suddenly it is too hot, too cold, too wet, or many other excuses.
Range is not a static thing in time. As batteries and charging improves, so will range and ease of use. Lithium Ion batteries have only been around since 1991 - 30 years. What was the combustion engine like after 30 years of development? Just for a starter, the first commercially successful internal combustion engine was made around 1860 but patents for ICT engines date back to 1807 so what were ICT engines like 30 years after the fact? Pretty shit. Lithium Ion batteries power density has gone up massively, the life span of each battery has gone up dramatically and charging time has decreased enormously in that time. Imagine what it's going to be like in a decade.
The advancement of lithium battery is undeniable. Equally undeniable is that it is far from ready to be shoved down the throat of consumers. When it is desirable people will stand in line and the success of the consumer will increase it's advancement. Right now battery powered tools and bicycles are great and people are loving them. Let the consumer to continue to push the advancement of that technology and eventually it might be good enough for motorcycles or automobiles but not anytime soon.
Good points but development moves much faster now than it did in the 1800’s because we have many more companies with huge R&D budgets doing research. Progress that would have taken decades in the 1800’s is now made in under a year because tech improves exponentially and not in a linear fashion. Also, producing the batteries is pretty dirty so vehicles that use them have to put on a lot of mileage to ultimately pollute more. Cars may hit these mileages but motorcycles are recreational and many may never get there.
Hello because of a good Himiway bike After 3 weeks and about 15 km it is defective (no more pedal assist) After I tried the support they wanted a video from me with the description of the problem, what I had done. The driving assistance via hand throttle worked perfectly, what I showed in the video. And what email came back from China ??? a video how I can speed up the hand throttle illegally, with the statement that they helped me with it ????????? I think the Himiway Service in China can't even watch video properly. I've only had the bike 3 weeks and already have a neck on Himiway. I hope for you that you never have to use the service, because the support in Germany gives the problem also only to China, because nothing else comes from there either.
Have fun with your Himiway and hopefully never a warranty case. Hallo
Hi Siegbert. I'm sorry to hear about your experience. I've forwarded your message to my contact at Himiway in hopes that they can help you out. I'll let you know what they say in return.
Thank you very much for your help, I think that the support from China needs to be better, because the product (Himiyway Zebra) is a really great one@@DifferentSpokesTV
Hi Siegbert. Support has contacted me and is asking for your email to resolve the situation. Don't leave it on a TH-cam comment but you can send me your email address at differentspokestv@gmail.com and I'll forward it to them. I hope they can help you.
My fart weighs 120 lbs. I would buy it via some affiliate link, so place one for the German market supplier and give me a response. Specs according to the German cite: 160 kgs total weight to carry.......I am far heavier than you, but I am even further away from 160 kgs. 60-100 kms max speed in the EU 25 km/h, it ceases to assist above that speed. For me it is quite an option, I plan to move out of the city having to go 20 kms to work in the future. That would allow me to do some serious physical activity and financially this would be zero expense if I ride it to work for three or four years.
Do you wanna discounts? My favorite German channel Dirk on Tour has coupon codes. Dirk160 for Cruiser and Escape, Dirk 110 for Cobra. I'm considering buying a Cruiser ST...😉
I've checked with Himiway and they gave me the following info about the German site and a promotion happening right now. Can check this link: himiwaybike.de/Rabatt Our ebikes on the German website are on promotion right now. Here're the discount codes, you can send them to the commenters if necessary :) HDE160, could be applied to Cruiser, Cruiser Step Thru, and Escape pro, the deadline for use is November 1st, 2022. HDE110, could be applied to Cobra, the deadline for use is November 1st, 2022. HDE50, could be applied to Zebra and Big dog, the deadline for use is January 1st, 2023. Hope that helps.
@@DifferentSpokesTV In Bavaria close to the Austrian border, where the Alps suddenly appear like a wall....actually you see them from close to Munich already.
Energica has a 400 km range bike that recharges in 15 minutes. That's 250 miles...farther than a sportster. And, that's just happened in the last 5 years. Five years from now, they'll introduce a thousand km range. Live wire is a joke, and zero is a money grabbing customer service nightmare. New charge stations are going up every day, so the infrastructure will be everywhere soon. At this second, electric is a bit of a struggle for the average person, but it will advance just like it did with ice engines replacing horse and buggy.
If Tesla could build a motorbike with an approx 20KW battery that could use their charging network and had 150KWH charging ability then I think it becomes a viable option - until then, big electrics are a hard nope for the masses.
Just drove up to my cabin and saw that the gas station half way up is installing a bunch of Tesla chargers. Writhing the next five years e vehicles might become convenient. However, e-motorcycles might be worse for the environment than gas because you have to ride a lot to offset the environmental impact of producing batteries. Most bikes never get to that mileage in Canada because they’re toys, not commuters.good for high mileage cars, but low mileage bikes might actually be dirtier.
Disagree, not all countries are the same size. Not all electrical bike are 30K, and last but not least, nothing but nothing accelerate like an electric propulsion.
True, but either they’re over 20k or the range is limited. Many of my rides go over 100 miles and there are no quick charge stations where I ride. If there was an e-motorcycle with a 100+ mile range for around 10k and the infrastructure was in place I’d be game. Maybe that will happen soon, but not yet where I live. Plus, in order to make e-vehicles actually environmentally friendly you have to put a lot of miles on them. Most motorcyclists won’t ride far enough on their e-motorcycles to make up for the environmental costs of building batteries.
I'm getting tired of agreeing with your videos but I have to do it again. The future of electric vehicles lies with battery/electric power tools and e-bikes. The technology has been making huge advances that make ownership of e-bikes and electric power tools extremely desirable. The reasons are numerous and should be obvious. But when it comes to electric cars and motorcycles being shoved down our throat the technology simply is not there yet. Let the free market decide because it is clear that the competitive nature of the e-bikes and power tools will continue to improve battery technology and eventually it might be Advanced enough to apply to a daily driver car but only when the free market decides that it is what they want.
Thanks! I am seeing a lot of improvements. On the way up north to the cabin today I saw a whole bunch of Tesla chargers going into the gas station at the half way mark. For the first time it might be viable for us to get an electric car. That’s what will sell them - convenience.
@@DifferentSpokesTV it's not just the convenience of charging stations that's keeping the general consumer critical of electric vehicles. It is the longevity of the technology and it's limitations.
Why are all these E-Bikes fat tire disasters. I'm dropping my 2.8s to 2.1s on my converted bike. My mountain bikes run a 2.2 and my most aggressive gravel bike tires are only 45mm (and I'm not a fan of them on pavement). Fat tires are slower on pavement, more taxing on your e-bike battery, less nimble at handling tight turns, and tougher at uphill climbs. They result in bikes that are heavier, harder to transport, store and swap out tubes.
Some good points and I’ve wondered the same thing. I’m guessing that if you want to put a huge battery in it and produce lots of power you will have to make the bike very solid which will make it very heavy. In this case only the bigger wheels will be able to carry the load.
I'm slowly becoming more Interested, mean I was on a bicycle when I was younger. Another easily digestible and informative video , good work !
Thanks! I’m definitely seeing folks become more interested in bikes with electrification.
Fantastic video! Beautiful fall colors. I just ordered the cruiser. Thanks
Great bikes, lots of fun, boomers are loving them. Beautifully done video and what a scenery…
Thanks! Those are some of the best fall colours I’ve seen.
I have a Goldwing F6B and just bought a RadRunner 2 e-bike for my girlfriend and I to get around town on. Just love it.
Yep, they’re everywhere and companies are popping up all the time. Makes you wonder if old school bike brands like Trek and Specialized are feeling the heat from all this competition.
Thanks for the review, im looking for an e bike right now. Cheers from Australia
Thanks! Glad I could help.
Love the video and the bike! 😊
Thanks!
As always EXELENTE video, mi youtuber favorito 👍👍👍
Thank you! Very much appreciated.
1:12 Expensive gear is technically not required on a motorcycle either. Ebikers should be wearing a helmet and proper gear, given the speeds they can attain.
Yes, that’s true. Good bicycle helmets are approaching motorcycle helmet prices. I tend to go more ATGATT on motorcycles because they are still quite a bit faster.
Ebikes go not faster than a traditional bike unless they are hacked. They just require much less effort.
I have a Lectric ebike and a Ruckus. I never ride the ebike. Ruckus is a lot more fun. And I feel a lot safer. I wouldn't ride either one out by Walmart, but the Ruckus is preferred for running errands around a small town. Being sweaty and out of breath is not appealing, to anyone.
It's not that people don't like electric motorbikes. It's the fact that when you buy an electric motorbike you need to insure it, tax it and what not. While with an e-bike you have none of that. So its an easy way to travel fast and far without having to pay extra for taxing it, insuring it and registering it.
Instead of threatening to ban internal combustion by 2030 they should be promoting ebikes like these by building bike lanes
They’re doing quite a bit of that in Canadian cities. Trouble is that in the Canadian winter e-bikes aren’t the best mode of transport. But I agree. All roads should be built with wide shoulders for bikes.
@@DifferentSpokesTV The winters truly don't matter if the infrastructure is there and maintained. Over in the Netherlands and other biking-aware Euro countries, there's just as much (if not more) snowfall than the inhabited parts of Canada, and the biking doesn't stop in the winter just as the driving doesn't. The road crews just plow the bike paths, too. So incredibly simple.
i doubt that outside of specific countries that already do have affinity for bicycles that there will be massive surge in popularity of them.
Most people tend to use most convenient and effortless means of transport, in cities that tends to be metro and or tram (in some less civilized countries individual motorized means) out of the cities that tend to be buses and cars, occasionally replaced by motorbikes in specific cases.
Cycling tends to be a hobby rather than main means of transportation, that being said considering costs i do not believe even unasisted cycles are that avalible, i was taken aback by price of even the cheapest new one some 2 decades ago and i doubt there were any cost cuts since.
Depends on the city I guess. In Toronto, Hamilton and Ottawa I see more e-bikes than conventional bikes these days and I get why. They give older or less fit people a chance to enjoy the outdoors without dreading all the hills on the route.
I've gotten 63 miles on My Himiway Cruiser using only 3 bars on a fully charged battery- - yeah Long Range for sure.
I could have bought 2 Himiways for the price of my, broken at only 20 miles, Indian eFTR 1.2 Hooligan. The warranted replacement was held up for three weeks in shipping AND finally arrived missing the LED Headlight and Flyscreen ! SMH. Live and learn.
Yikes! Should have pulled light and screen off the first one before you sent it back.
@@DifferentSpokesTV Immediately notified Super73, the carrier, and Indian. Both the light and flyscreen are in the mail. Himiway is a far greater value, but I was a loyal Indian owner and didn’t shop the market.
Should have done a range test at 100% throttle, no pedalling.
I did it on the Cruiser and got 45km on mostly an off road course. Guessing the Zebra will be a bit better.
@@DifferentSpokesTV Ah, missed that review. Cheers.
Energica is a far better electric motorcycle than Zero will ever be. I would pay CVO money for a Electric Electra Glide. There is more than enough weight to shuffle into batteries and the wind protection will improve mileage and the bags are the one necessity that most if not all EV motorcycles are missing.
Having coworkers with e-bikes they suffer from the same issue many motorcycles do, suddenly it is too hot, too cold, too wet, or many other excuses.
Range is not a static thing in time. As batteries and charging improves, so will range and ease of use. Lithium Ion batteries have only been around since 1991 - 30 years. What was the combustion engine like after 30 years of development? Just for a starter, the first commercially successful internal combustion engine was made around 1860 but patents for ICT engines date back to 1807 so what were ICT engines like 30 years after the fact? Pretty shit.
Lithium Ion batteries power density has gone up massively, the life span of each battery has gone up dramatically and charging time has decreased enormously in that time. Imagine what it's going to be like in a decade.
The advancement of lithium battery is undeniable.
Equally undeniable is that it is far from ready to be shoved down the throat of consumers.
When it is desirable people will stand in line and the success of the consumer will increase it's advancement.
Right now battery powered tools and bicycles are great and people are loving them. Let the consumer to continue to push the advancement of that technology and eventually it might be good enough for motorcycles or automobiles but not anytime soon.
Good points but development moves much faster now than it did in the 1800’s because we have many more companies with huge R&D budgets doing research. Progress that would have taken decades in the 1800’s is now made in under a year because tech improves exponentially and not in a linear fashion. Also, producing the batteries is pretty dirty so vehicles that use them have to put on a lot of mileage to ultimately pollute more. Cars may hit these mileages but motorcycles are recreational and many may never get there.
Hello because of a good Himiway bike After 3 weeks and about 15 km it is defective (no more pedal assist)
After I tried the support they wanted a video from me with the description of the problem,
what I had done. The driving assistance via hand throttle worked perfectly,
what I showed in the video.
And what email came back from China ??? a video how I can speed up the hand throttle illegally,
with the statement that they helped me with it ?????????
I think the Himiway Service in China can't even watch video properly.
I've only had the bike 3 weeks and already have a neck on Himiway.
I hope for you that you never have to use the service, because the support in Germany gives the problem
also only to China, because nothing else comes from there either.
Have fun with your Himiway
and hopefully never a warranty case.
Hallo
Hi Siegbert. I'm sorry to hear about your experience. I've forwarded your message to my contact at Himiway in hopes that they can help you out. I'll let you know what they say in return.
Thank you very much for your help, I think that the support from China needs to be better, because the product (Himiyway Zebra) is a really great one@@DifferentSpokesTV
Hi Siegbert. Support has contacted me and is asking for your email to resolve the situation. Don't leave it on a TH-cam comment but you can send me your email address at differentspokestv@gmail.com and I'll forward it to them. I hope they can help you.
@@DifferentSpokesTV they have it manytimes allredy Thies is just a haltback taktik
My fart weighs 120 lbs.
I would buy it via some affiliate link, so place one for the German market supplier and give me a response.
Specs according to the German cite:
160 kgs total weight to carry.......I am far heavier than you, but I am even further away from 160 kgs.
60-100 kms
max speed in the EU 25 km/h, it ceases to assist above that speed.
For me it is quite an option, I plan to move out of the city having to go 20 kms to work in the future. That would allow me to do some serious physical activity and financially this would be zero expense if I ride it to work for three or four years.
I’ll look into the Euro supplier for you. A 40km round trip is definitely doable although in the German winter it may be tough.
Do you wanna discounts? My favorite German channel Dirk on Tour has coupon codes. Dirk160 for Cruiser and Escape, Dirk 110 for Cobra. I'm considering buying a Cruiser ST...😉
I've checked with Himiway and they gave me the following info about the German site and a promotion happening right now.
Can check this link: himiwaybike.de/Rabatt
Our ebikes on the German website are on promotion right now. Here're the discount codes, you can send them to the commenters if necessary :)
HDE160, could be applied to Cruiser, Cruiser Step Thru, and Escape pro, the deadline for use is November 1st, 2022.
HDE110, could be applied to Cobra, the deadline for use is November 1st, 2022.
HDE50, could be applied to Zebra and Big dog, the deadline for use is January 1st, 2023.
Hope that helps.
@@DifferentSpokesTV
In Bavaria close to the Austrian border, where the Alps suddenly appear like a wall....actually you see them from close to Munich already.
@@DifferentSpokesTV I appreciate it.
Energica has a 400 km range bike that recharges in 15 minutes. That's 250 miles...farther than a sportster. And, that's just happened in the last 5 years. Five years from now, they'll introduce a thousand km range. Live wire is a joke, and zero is a money grabbing customer service nightmare. New charge stations are going up every day, so the infrastructure will be everywhere soon. At this second, electric is a bit of a struggle for the average person, but it will advance just like it did with ice engines replacing horse and buggy.
Good points. Just saw Tesla chargers being installed in the gas station on the way up to the cabin.
Highway is ONLY 180KM. Long distance in town is kind of useless as you will be charging in your garage. Don't pick and chose numbers.
If Tesla could build a motorbike with an approx 20KW battery that could use their charging network and had 150KWH charging ability then I think it becomes a viable option - until then, big electrics are a hard nope for the masses.
Just drove up to my cabin and saw that the gas station half way up is installing a bunch of Tesla chargers. Writhing the next five years e vehicles might become convenient. However, e-motorcycles might be worse for the environment than gas because you have to ride a lot to offset the environmental impact of producing batteries. Most bikes never get to that mileage in Canada because they’re toys, not commuters.good for high mileage cars, but low mileage bikes might actually be dirtier.
That live wire does look awesome though. Leave it to a company that makes objectively ugly bikes to make the best looking e-motorcycle
Disagree, not all countries are the same size. Not all electrical bike are 30K, and last but not least, nothing but nothing accelerate like an electric propulsion.
True, but either they’re over 20k or the range is limited. Many of my rides go over 100 miles and there are no quick charge stations where I ride. If there was an e-motorcycle with a 100+ mile range for around 10k and the infrastructure was in place I’d be game. Maybe that will happen soon, but not yet where I live. Plus, in order to make e-vehicles actually environmentally friendly you have to put a lot of miles on them. Most motorcyclists won’t ride far enough on their e-motorcycles to make up for the environmental costs of building batteries.
@@DifferentSpokesTV Thsnks again for the answer. Have a look at this channel Marc Travel, you might get another view.
I'm getting tired of agreeing with your videos but I have to do it again.
The future of electric vehicles lies with battery/electric power tools and e-bikes.
The technology has been making huge advances that make ownership of e-bikes and electric power tools extremely desirable. The reasons are numerous and should be obvious.
But when it comes to electric cars and motorcycles being shoved down our throat the technology simply is not there yet.
Let the free market decide because it is clear that the competitive nature of the e-bikes and power tools will continue to improve battery technology and eventually it might be Advanced enough to apply to a daily driver car but only when the free market decides that it is what they want.
Thanks! I am seeing a lot of improvements. On the way up north to the cabin today I saw a whole bunch of Tesla chargers going into the gas station at the half way mark. For the first time it might be viable for us to get an electric car. That’s what will sell them - convenience.
@@DifferentSpokesTV it's not just the convenience of charging stations that's keeping the general consumer critical of electric vehicles.
It is the longevity of the technology and it's limitations.
Why are all these E-Bikes fat tire disasters. I'm dropping my 2.8s to 2.1s on my converted bike. My mountain bikes run a 2.2 and my most aggressive gravel bike tires are only 45mm (and I'm not a fan of them on pavement). Fat tires are slower on pavement, more taxing on your e-bike battery, less nimble at handling tight turns, and tougher at uphill climbs. They result in bikes that are heavier, harder to transport, store and swap out tubes.
Some good points and I’ve wondered the same thing. I’m guessing that if you want to put a huge battery in it and produce lots of power you will have to make the bike very solid which will make it very heavy. In this case only the bigger wheels will be able to carry the load.
@@DifferentSpokesTV Cargo bikes don't use fat tires. 100% marketing and consumers.
Electric I'm in.
China I'm out.