7 Irritating Problems Video Games Suddenly Have Now
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2020
- Video games have improved in many ways over the years! They've also suddenly got a bunch of irritating new problems that they never used to have BACK IN MY DAY-
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Please just let us play the games. Please. We just want to play the games. Why is it so difficult? Whhhhhyyyyy?
Are you guys gonna play Genshin Impact?
Could it be... Because money?
Why not talk about the always being subscribed to certain services to even play online in the first place. (PS4 and it's fellow generational consoles)
It's simple really... If you want to know just create a new account, subscribe to the newsletter so that you are the first to know when the season pass containing the true ending and the answer comes out, download all 56GB of it and then you have a 1/50 chance to find it in a loot box
Not all video games are like that but the Money is the answer.
Yeah, remember when you bought the game and you actually got the entire game?
Remember when some executive said this exact words as If It was a bad thing? These people... smh
Now you have to wait for a year. To buy a game of the year or complete edition at an adequate price.
Or wait 2 freaking years for all dlc's to drop before buying this is why we can't have nice things
The Fable series deserved to die after it sold with DLC already on the disc but making me pay for it.
Remember when you bought the game and you actually got to play it with your friends?
It's a pain in the ass to get your friends to play a video game with you these days. First you have to convince them to buy it. You have to ensure that their computer can handle it or that their console can connect to the same server you're on. You have to hope their internet connection doesn't lag out. You have to communicate with them over phone and internet to find out if and when they want to play at any given time. Ain't nobody got time for this shit anymore.
Used to be that if you and a friend were both sitting on a couch it was easy. I get a controller, you get a controller, let's do this. Any game built for more than one player was designed for this. But splitscreen games just aren't that common anymore. You'd need two tvs, two accounts, two game copies, two subscriptions... fuck it all. Let's just get drunk and play ping pong instead.
It’s also not fun when the mandatory accounts have ridiculous password requirements. I’m trying to play Borderlands not write Sanskrit
So many different accounts and passwords. Seriously, if you sell it on a different store, let us use THAT account.
Too bad I already have to write sanskrit in india
I just use a password manager (KeePass) for all my accounts. It generates a random password based on the requirements and you just have to remember one password: your master key.
Sandscript??
Right? So I go to log back on for the first time in a while, I'm like...
"Okay, so it has to have X, Y, and Z. So I probably did _this_ password, and... nope, that's the wrong one. Maybe _this_ one? Nope, not that either. Okay, guess I'll change it."
*Changes password to one of the two I just tried*
"YOU MAY NOT USE A PASSWORD YOU HAVE RECENTLY USED"
Me: WHAT THE F-- I JUST TRIED THAT!
The whole "You need to be online to play this single player game," thing makes me furious beyond belief. They say it's to prevent piracy? HA! I bought a PC game that did this to me. I got tired of having to connect my ethernet cable and login to some stupid account just to play an offline single player game. So know what I ended up doing? I downloaded a pirated version of THE SAME GAME I PAID FOR just to avoid the unnecessary inconvenience, hassle, and plain downright HARASSMENT of it all. So no, it doesn't stop piracy, it contributes to it. Good job, game developers!
Yeah I've run into this issue a couple times so now I just get pirated or cracked versions of the game. I don't even try to buy games anymore the entire industry has totally brought me out. Now if it's a sheep indie game or something and not a big names and I do tend to try to buy it but it doesn't usually have all the BS at all the big Corporation games do. I completely support piracy
This is why GOG is great. Also CD Projeckt Red is as well.
Understandable.
I realized how annoying this is while on a trip one time. I was staying at my second cousins house who DOES NOT HAVE internet AT ALL. I got bored and decided to play pokemon. I wanted to do some trading until I couldn't without the internet. I miss the days when no internet was required.
Then we get to SAOIF territory where the game barely even loads without wifi.
@@geekygirl2596 pretty sure all of the pokemon games accept local wireless (is that what it's called?) as a connection type.
I absolutely _love_ how lootboxes got so _stupid_ that governments started glaring at publishers and saying, “ _Fine_ . You put in gambling elements into your game, we'll _regulate_ and *tax* you like gambling providers,” and the sounds of game publishing executives shitting themselves echoed wetly across the land.
“Imagine paying 89.99 and not getting -oh my god” lmao, I lost it
6:00 Best part of the video.
Omg me too 😂😂
$279.99 + $7.84 for shipping
I would burn their headquarters down if I bought that then saw the fine print saying that I'm not actually getting the game. That is bullshit!
@@Nesseight welcome to NINTENDO!
Single player games ceasing to function when the servers are inevitably shut down or the company wants to force you to buy their new game.
This.😑
Years later you think, I would love to play that old game again.
Only to start it up to see that it is no longer playable.
And the sad thing is that people defend these practices saying things like "well I haven't had any problems, hence the problem does not exist".
@@matteste those people haven't been around long enough to witness the consequences.
XboxLive/Games For Windows Live and the Batman Arkham series on PC anyone? anyone? :> thank god for Steam. :>
I don't like the big downloads now for the base game. You used to just pop in a disc and start playing. This is better for people that don't have much hard drive space and have slow connections that would take over a day to download 100GB of data
No list has resonated with me as much as this one. I'm constantly yelling out, "So this is the future, eh? This is what you all wanted?!"
This is why I play old games.
@@Firetorm2999 This is why I replay the same handful of games over and over haha.
Must be Canadian 😉
@@FBIMOUS377 What's this aboot?
@@FBIMOUS377 ???
I remember getting games for my birthday and being able to play it that morning before school.
These days it takes all day to update/install, then it crashes because it's an awful buggy mess.
Remember ‘batteries not included’?
@@Tacko14 now it’s “content not included”
The Sean Bean pun run by Ellen was the content I come for
I came here for the inevitability of this comment. I was not disappointed.
It was pretty Sharpe
@@vindicare9915 oddly I anticipated Sharpe too. Really should have gone through his entire filmography.
I was hoping for more Sean Bean jokes than that.
It is a strange fate that we should enjoy so much fun and merriment over so small a pun. Such a little pun.
The most annoying thing about having to install from the disc is that you still need the disk inserted for the game to run. Which seems to entirely defeat the purpose of installing in the first place.
Anti-piracy measure that's been around since the advent of CD-ROM. Funny that while the PC market pretty much abandoned this "feature" it's found it's way onto consoles. So much for consoles being less hassle than PC's eh.
yes ikr having to install the game before playing it, then having to keep the game in the system , its so stupid and unbelievable, unacceptable mind blowing, why haven’t they allowed games to be played online and offline without the disks fix that problem just in case its not available in the game pass
The Mockracy they need to remove this problem from all future console games in the future, doesn’t make any sense at all cant make a purpose of it all
@@swaggytjm33matthews26 You people don't get that they don't want you to buy the disk. They want you to buy the digital version because they make more money from it and they control the price as well.
They will never try to help you out on making your life easier owning the disk because they hate second hand market, cheap store prices or you lending a game to a friend.
@@SIPEROTH That's why I ALWAYS buy physical. besides, I don't trust online only. One day Steam , Live, PSN, etc, WILL go down. Then your digital library is dust. My disks might have glitches galore now that I cannot update, but I have them.
I miss the days where you could buy a game, pop it in the consol and just play and not have to worry about how much space is on your system.
Remember when you could just buy a new memory card if you wanted more save space or more save files? I miss that.
@@gircakes all systems can use and USB or external drives sames as they did
When you can buy a brand new just released game and play it immediately.
And even when you've downloaded it onto the console you still need the disk anyway because reasons
- Single Player games don't need always online.
- Lootboxes are gambling
- You don't need to login/link accounts to play games.
- Day-one Patches says your game is bad and rushed.
- Microtransactions are for the greedy who want more.
Microtransactions are also for the lazy...
That's why I immediately delete the game if it has any of those things
as someone who works in QA, day one patches could also say "whoops, within the first 24 hours, players found something our testing team didn't because they're human and can't think of everything, sorry, we're fixing it"
@@RosePhantoma I don't mind day one patches, or patches in general. I'd rather play a balanced game. In the meantime I do something else.
@@mikeluna2026 How has lazy got anything to do with it?
My favorite is the "2 weeks after launch patch" that adds in all the scummy ads and microtransactions that the publisher was hiding to boost scores from initial reviewers. Surprise!
And DRM that suddenly makes the game run worse because of the extra memory use (or doesn't support certain platforms, making a game that ran fine, suddenly not boot... see Doom: Eternal and them rolling in Denuvo)
ikr like i remember buying a pc game coming home installing it and play it never having any glitches or problems throughout the game now every single game comes out broken asf and needs constant fixing its like they give game making jobs to every fucking idiot i swear before 2010 no game came out game breakingly unplayable
All excellent reasons why PC game piracy will never die, @@DrakonLameth. As so long as this forced always-online DRM and other crippling DRM requirements are forced on paying customers the video game pirates shall always reign supreme.
I remember getting Halo 2 For Windows Vista despite having Windows 7 at the time, and getting Orange Box so I could play some Portal at least, @@dragnarok4286. I could not play any of those games well or at all. Halo 2 was forced to stop at the Key retrieval cutscene. I soon left behind my love for the Halo games thereafter. Orange Box would install, but would not play without getting online Activated. Both excellent reasons for PC gaming piracy really...
@@dragnarok4286 It has nothing to do with the developers in a decent amount of cases. Publishers set a release date and they have no choice but to push the game out if the developers say its ready or not. It's a fight to get enough time to make a functioning game the first time these days
These issues are why Indie Games are still so popular. They just don't make them like they used to.
Indie games do have to indirectly contend with the client issue. A lot of them go through Steam, and Steam doesn't like to let you look at your library until the daily mandatory updates are done.
@@BonaparteBardithion To be fair, sometimes they change the core server code and a new version needs to be downloaded to interface with that. Admittedly, this isn't done often at all, and you might say the solution is simply to boot the launcher into the Library first, but due to the way Steam was written, it requires a restart of sorts to reconnect fully to the servers.
@@arnox4554
But it does end up making indie games go through the same constant update issues as their mainstream competitors. It's especially noticable since most other clients give you the option of making updates optional.
@@BonaparteBardithion I mean, you can do the same thing too on Steam by simply enabling Offline Mode.
They do make them like they used to, they just can't be sold as before.
I actually ran into a legitimate problem with this kind of thing for the first time yesterday. For the longest time it was just a build up of annoyances, but about a month ago I lost my home wifi connection, so stupidly I decided I would buy a hard disk copy of The Last of Us 2 to keep my entertained on the rare occasions I'm not at my 70 hour a week job. But without internet I can't download the day one patch, and the game will never even make it to the main title screen. So it's a 60 dollar plastic disk containing a single image of Ellie's face, and I'm extremely unhappy about it.
Even if you had all the patches, you still wouldnt be able to play as downloading "from the disc" is actually downloading from the internet, and they still force you to use the useless disc to play the game. I know, because I tried to turn off my connection so it would download from the disc for a new game and it told me I needed the connection.
remember actually owning the game having it on your computer instead of it being some service that updates it's terms at will while it holds your property hostage, to quote Darth Vader "pray I don't alter the deal any further". these practices are monopolistic and illegal but the law is not enforced on some.
At least you have GOG, no DRM, every game has offline installer and you don't even need a PC client.
I bet they are paying off the authorities. This is why we need a vigilante in America to deal with these avarice demons, like EA.
Google literally breaks it's own ad terms. You can report an ad for being one of multiple ads made by the same company for the same service. Google and most big companies who advertise on it are literally breaking the law.
I remember when a game was something I bought, and then owned. In its entireity.
Not temporarily rented.
Exactly.
Then you haven't paid attention to enough End-User Licence Agreements. for the longest time they've asserted that what you're purchasing is a conditional right to access the software, not the software itself.
@@DrakeAurum laughs in proprietary software on a disc
Which is why I will eventually buy the ps5 with it's disc drive. I still won't own the entire game, but I own more than a digitally downloaded game. Yet I miss the days when I bought the complete game.
"A game, in its ENTIRETY"
DLC: I'm about to destroy this person's dreams
You know the worst part about the challenges and dailies are when you cannot take a break from them, and they actually become a chore. Worst thing that would happen in Animal Crossing is having a bunch of weeds here and there.
But some other games are like "Oh wait you didn't do those tasks? Too bad because now you need to grind for 5 weeks in a row, or else you won't get that OP weapon/hero/whatever people use now"
Yeah, I totally get you! My example's a little bit different, but as a big time player of ESO I've noticed I get severely burnt out after each event, because during those my completionist brain is screaming "NO YOU HAVE TO COLLECT ALL THE ARMORS/WEAPONS/TICKETS/GOODIES" even if they're not something I'd use because "you never know" and because seeing that 4/7 pieces collected in my album is Annoying.
Similarily, crafting dailies become crushing when I have to do them on 5+ characters, especially on slow connection days, when the crafting+loading screens inbetween take a full hour to get through and at that point I'd have forgotten what I actually wanted to do in the game. ESO allows for up to 18 characters and I cannot imagine doing dailies on all of them.
I mean - sure I'm not FORCED to do them... but it sure is a shame to miss out on all that gold, eh?
Those things kick into the fear of missing out a lot and turn the game into a chore/stress fest, where you feel like if you can't do all the dailies today, it's better to not log in at all just to save yourself the feeling of guilt for not doing it all.
My God, that really does feel like irl chores. I hate it.
That's exactly why I quit Animal Crossing, Fortnite and am on the verge of quitting Sky: Children of the Light. The daily tasks have turned the game from a fun diversion into an actual chore, and if you miss a day you break the streak and have to start it all over.
Infuriating. All of it. Makes me want to stop playing altogether. Because everytime I buy a game I get annoyed and upset about this practices.
It is sad, but it always feels like those who download cracked versions of the games get the better experience.
Like movies. Who has to sit through ads and anti-piracy-trailers and doesn't?
Agreed, as terrible as it sounds I rarely play AAA games due to their practices, but I've definitely downloaded a 5-fingered version of some AAA games just to play through their single player campaign. If I like it, I'll maybe buy it when all the game DLC is out and the price isn't predatory, or just wait for it to appear in a bundle/steam sale. Any indie company, or AAA company who has decent morals though, I'll straight up buy their game and support them.
Same that's why I started downloading cracked and pirated versions. I don't even care anymore. Unless it's a small game made by small creators then I'm not buying it. And even if it is made by small creators I try to avoid buying it through systems like steam if I can. To be honest the cracked versions of games that allow you to go in and mess with the code and maybe cheat a little bit actually teach you a lot about programming. But I'm also not a heavy cheater I just like to mess with the system and see what I can get. However if you do this with any other game on any purchasing platform you'll have the game rights taken away from you and be banned. Even if you were just having personal fun not trying to steal or cheat any other player
One more reason I never pre-order games (because who knows what they'll do to the game before I can get my hands on it), and always research games before I purchase them.
Honestly, I stopped playing. I only get to play on my vacations. I would buy a game put in the Xbox and watch my vacation disappear thanks to the download and patches.
After hearing the GTA: Sam Andreas theme
“All you had to do was let me play the damn game, video game company!”
Okay let's open this lootbox...
Damnit, I already have both versions of a number 9!
Shoehorning in a multiplayer feature in every damn single-player game.
They don't do that as much anymore. Just all the monetization and leaderboards and shit.
Hoped this trend died out... nope, appearently it's comming back as if no one has learned anything
Esp. multiplayer-only achievements. Does anyone actually play Stronghold: Legends multiplayer??
What game has done that recently?
@Shawn Williams nah, that would go to far. just don't force it on single player games.
"I play games to get away from spreadsheets!"
Laughs in Eve Online: Spreadsheets in SPAAAACE
Check out Aurora 4X. There are a couple barebones interfaces to see where everything is, and mountains of spreadsheets where you'll actually spend your time.
whoever modeled that wood chipper has obviously never seen a wood chipper.
Yea it looks like a trash compactor with a siren
Not all wood chippers are built for optional body disposal.
That's because that's a body chipper, not a wood chipper
Although it's a pretty good representation of an apple juice machine.
It was modeled by a person longing to see a wood chipper
I wouldn't say Loot Boxes are "little irritations", they are macro-level threats. Have you read the EU report on gambling addiction over Loot Boxes?
A lot of the complaints in the video are about things made to make consumers addicted.
Loot boxes are probably the most despicable practice by the industry right now. That is what happens when a company is ruled by aggressive cocaine addict ex-brokers that don´t play video games and would sell their moms if they could.
I have read the report. Hell, I wrote an entire paper about the clear parallels of loot boxes to gambling and the gaming industry to big tobacco
If you look into the science of them, gambling and loot boxes (if you even consider them as two different things) are identical.
Another annoyance? Cosmetics, priced higher than the game itself.
Who the crap decided that 20 dollars is a good price for a reskin?
Honestly, that's better than cutting essential features. Skins are not adding anything useful to the game itself but they can be used to support the developer.
That said, there must be an option to upload your own or community created skin, which only you can see, for free.
A lot of games with cosmetics are normally free to play. Which im okay with because it removes the chance of the game becoming pay to play. Now pay 2 win games are just fuckin trash... every phone game ever made....
I hated fortnite because of the way they would release new skins and people would just think.. " if I buy this I'll be good at the game " or some just like the look which I don't mind also the building was stupid because it involved no strategy if they took the building out and just had all the goofy weapons and fun glitches it would be a lot funner and wouldn't of got so much negative reviews
@@shivur5073 not all but yea I agree
Some games like world of tanks and war thunder have individual vehicles priced anywhere from $10 to $50 to $100+
My favorite thing is when games want me to log in every few hours, with no breaks to sleep. You better schedule your sleep carefully to minimize the number of alarms you need to set to wake up and play. It's very helpful that most games will send you a notification automatically to wake you up for the very important tasks.
I miss the old days where you unlock skins within the game completing certain objectives. The simpler times, simpler days...
I see Outside Xtra and I automatically click. Can't help it.
But yeah. The biggest one for me IS the single player games that only play if you're connected to the internet.
The force is strong in you
The millisecond I see an online requirement for a single player game, I go looking for mods or hacks to cut around that garbage. There's more out there than you might think.
Or single player games with multiplayer achievements
@@fancypants9558 Yes! At the very least for those games they should make the multiplayer trophies separate from the singleplayer ones. That way trophy hunters don't have to play multiplayer to get Plat.
Same. My internet was down the other day and I thought "okay, guess I'll just do some borderlands 3 singleplayer". I was not able to play borderlands 3 singleplayer
Could have labeled this "7 ways the internet has ruined our games." Seriously, I just want to kick back and relax, not wait 2 hours for my disc to install, for the account to register, and for the internet to stabilize. Oh, and then wait an hour for the patch.
Back in the day, not having to deal with this stuff was a huge advantage for consoles. Times have changed. The Switch is now the only console that's still got a plug-and-play philosophy (and Nintendo puts out actually finished games so you don't have to download a giant day one patch).
It's the internet who make decisions?
It's the developer who make decisions while crunching every week being payed like shit?
Or it is publishers and companies CEO who make those horrendous decisions just to profit?
As always the problem is on the top of the chain.
If on xbox, go to settings>network settings>go offline>install disk>100% install>network settings>go online>download day 1/current update.
@@Christopher-md7tf How did all the new Consoles become play station 2 an the resident evil files games.
@@NoFocksGiven_ What
you forgot one: when the game is released a lengendary character/item was really really better then an uncommon or rare or ... equivalent. But after 2 years of playing and opening loot boxes you finally get a legendary only to realise that its one of the latest additions to the game and that the extra effect sucks in comparison. YES, I'm also talking about heartstone!
"At this point it's no longer controversial to say that the internet was a terrible mistake"
Say... on the Internet.
Imagine you buy a full price book/film, take it home and start reading/watching it, and realise halfway through that pages/scenes are missing. You contact the publisher/distributor and are informed that you will not be given the pages/scenes, nor can you buy the pages/scenes you're missing. Instead, you're forced to buy lucky packets containing random pages/scenes over and over and over and over again in the hope you somehow get what you need. You'd be livid. We do not let any other form of media get away with this, why the hell do we let games slide?
because bonus dlc isn't a mandatory part of the gameplay?? its more like buying a book cover or bookmark..
@@geminirox8635 I'm talking about elements that are traditionally considered part of the fabric of the game that are carved out purely for the purpose of being sold back to us piecemeal, and contrived problems that are created in order to sell us the solution.
@@VulpesObscura can you give me 3 examples so i know what you're referring ti?
@@geminirox8635 Jokes on you, some games have their "true ending" or additional side-stories that actually answers the questions that should be resolved in the main game...As DLC nowdays
@@renookami4651 how does that make the joke on me?
"A tea and a sitdown" is the single most british coping mechanism ever.
*English coping mechanism. I imagine a Scottish person might choose a different beverage
@@Leon_Schuit wait.. England and Great Britain aren't just 2 names for the same place?
@@sebastiansantana2447, I think there are some Scots, Northern Irish and Welshmen that have a thing or two to say about that... but for a good chunk, that sounds about right
@@Leon_Schuit but isnt that the United Kingdom?
(Sprry I dont know much about Geography)
@@sebastiansantana2447, you're right. Turns out Northern Ireland isn't a part of Great Britain, but is indeed a part of the UK. England is a country, which is a part of both the UK and the island called Great Britain.
As I play my older console games, and my open source online games I sometimes think I should upgrade my system. Then I see all of this loot box, micro-transaction, activation, and endless patch nonsense and think, yep I am satisfied with slightly improved Quake era graphics. At some point open source free competitors to these games will become more and more viable because the new games have become less and less enjoyable and affordable.
the problem with games now is that they focus too much on trying to be realistic instead of trying to be fun
100%!
Yeah true
You forgot the money part. That comes before realism
And thats why Nintendo stays in business.
@@Mike_Dubo not a nintendo fan but yah have a Point. Thats one of the things nintendo does right
Besides if you're gonna make me install the game in the consol at least let me play it without having to put the disc in each time I wanna boot it up.
That’s so you can’t download from a disk then say trade it in and keep playing it also so you have to buy the game
@@roughduck1285 then you have digital dl editions that don't bother with it all, honestly with day one DLC you might as well install it from a remote server anyways...
Nowadays discs are being used as DRM keys than for actual game storage
@@R77ification DRM are anti piracy measures, right?
@@roughduck1285 yeah I know, but no matter the reason behind it, it's pretty annoying
You missed one thing “Not being able to play games you had for years because it’s on a disk” now I have to buy my supposedly backwards compatible game library again on digital to play. Thanks Microsoft.
That's everyone. But the new Xbox is supposed to be backwards compatible with all prior versions of the xbox going all the way back to 2001
@@inorite4553 Hell, if that's true I'll switch back to playing XBOX over PS.
Did you lose the disk, or the machine that used to run that disk? Because if not you can still play the game you had for years.
@@tomcutts9200 neither actually, I haven’t checked all of my disks but when I was checking my RPGs only like one out of ten was recognized by the machine, and it used to recognize all of them. No real damage or anything on the disks either, so I figure it just wouldn’t let me play them on disk
@@brandoftheraisin That's quite the opposite for me, popped a copy of Gears of War 1, scratched to all hell in my (at the time) new Xbox One, it recognized it, but couldn't read it, so it just downloaded a fresh copy off the store instead. Dunno if it would have even tried to install from disc, but the point is it worked. Perhaps your disc was so tattered it couldn't access whatever identifies the game?
The music industry learned a long time ago that the best anti-piracy measure is a good product that is easy to get and use. Even now, it is easier to find and buy music legitimately than wait hours for a pirated version that might not even be very good. All that loading a game with DRM and mandatory nonsense does is make the "free" version without the bull-crap look like a sound idea.
Number 5 on the list really resonated with me. I remember when some friends tried to get me involved with Clash of Clans. I looked it over and rejected it since the game seemed suspiciously close to responsibility in my free time.
“The only way to win, is not to play the game.”
"The only way to win, is not to **buy** the game"- fixed it for you
They only way to win is to play an actually decent game.
Spec ops - the line
WarGames
@@MARCOPETER82 ^^^ Winner
This seems more like reasons why the internet is bad for games. Or specifically, why it's bad that publishers can control your game after you buy it.
internet should be only for managing bank accounts and arranging a casual sex encounter, everything else is ruined by it
@BruceMan BatWayne One could call it an online service being leased?
Or why capitalism is bad for games...
@@geraintthomas4343 What's the alternative? I mean... capitalism is WHY the industry exists... What would non-capitalist games be like O_o'
@@marhawkman303 Tetris
This is why I pirate games, if they don’t care then I don’t either.
Enjoy prison when you get caught
@@Halloweenman33 lmao narc alert
Can I just download from a torrent site and use a memory stick to play on my PS3? I know it’s pretty easy for computer games but didn’t think about PS3 games! It’s possible?? 😏🙌🏻
@@Halloweenman33 THEY DONT CARE YOU DOWNLOAD A PIRATE GAME THEY CARE ABOUT WHO MAKE THEM
@@hellohello2024 There's a pretty decent PS3 emulator already (RPCS3). If you have luck you can play some of your favorite games with a higher resolution too. And creating a backup version of a game you own is not a "crime". Though no one's really gonna be after you if you torrent a game (unless you are dumb enough to try to sell media from torrents as a business). If you want to avoid issues with your isp you can use a proxy service too (not really a problem in some countries though, I live in central america and my isp just doesn't give a damn. My friend in Texas does prefer to use a Proxy just in case though...).
"chores"
*World of Warcraft flashbacks*
You know, now that I think about it, this requirement to always be online to play an otherwise offline single player adventure is doomed to fail. Because eventually the servers are going to shut down rendering the games unplayable.
Oh, the online requirement is gonna be just fine. What's doomed is us gamers who WILL be cut off from our favorite titles on a whim of a publisher. Hell, it's happened a few times already.
That's fine with the companies, though, because then you'll just have to buy the game all over again.
Oh, you missed a trick. After Ellen's "I'm fired, aren't I?" joke, you should have immediately switched over to Luke, in the middle of the segment - possibly with a gag about him not being prepared for this segment and stumbling a bit.
Oh, that would have been amazing. I hope they steal that for another video.
I was expecting that to happen lol
Games that require you to have friends... I will let you pick the context
A way out.
Remember… we are talking about an industry that comes from Arcades, and how to make you pay "one more quarter" to keep playing there games. The industry is literally about making you pay "Just one more quarter"
except those were fun. And social
"Once done with all your chores or, more accurately, promising yourself you'll do them tomorrow,"
I did not need to be called out like that.
Ellen asks for microtransactions.
"this is not hell. This is not hell's hell. This is the cruel shadow of hell, which contains those who look upon hell with hope and envy".
I don't see anything wrong with microtransactions, so long as that which is purchased, is purely cosmetic, or items that don't break the game.
If an item can be purchased, that makes it where you no longer need skill to win the game, then there is a problem.
@@deathsheir2035 and this give an inch attitude is what got us into this mess.
There was once a time cosmetic shit was earnable in game.
For free. At a reasonable time investment.
Oh hell....
@@razorcloud1 But game were cheaper to produce.
I love paradox games. And it's kind of a good exemple since the success of TotalWar Warhammer is due to the insane content of this game thanks to years of DLC. I'm understand Ellen. I much prefer a clear money deal to spending a random (but most certainly hudge) amount of time with no guarantee to get what I want.
@Freddie Rhodes so in other word's not the ninth circle of hell but literally inside satan's asshole where the ninth circle would be preferable.
So many of these irritations apply to Niantic's mobile games... yeah, I'm looking at you, Pokemon Go and Harry Potter Wizards Unite!
I knew it was getting bad when I bought a game from GameStop years ago. It was missing the manual and the clerk said well you don’t really need the manual anyway. Then and there I knew we had entered a new dark age. Gone are the days where you would repeatedly read the manuals front to back in games like Pokémon Blue or Mario Bros. They had some pretty good art and were mad thicc. Nowadays they might be a couple of pages of static directions or are missing altogether. Take me back to the old days, please!
I actually kind of hate the online saves in the new Hitman games. If you're offline you literally cannot even access both the score system, and the challenges menu. so when the servers are inevitably shut down as all game servers will be, you just have to guess whether or not you did those challenges you have to guess whether or not you did it the right way.
So no one is gonna mention how games don’t feel like they are made with love or passion like they used to? Like they always feel the same with the same algorithm dailies and everything like man
It feels like how things in certain games are randomly generated not placed with care and thought
@@icarus9980 Like for example; most of the buildings in Ghost Recon: Wildlands seemed extremely copy-pasted to me. Way to kill the immersion.
7 problems with video games:
1. They are all the same.
2. They are all the same.
3. They are all the same.
4. They are all the same.
5. They are all the same.
6. They are all the same.
7. They are all the same.
Think that about covers it.
Jackal_Black sounds about right
I go for games with stylized graphics for this reason. Even if the gameplay's all the same, at least the games I play can stand out visually against all of the other gritty, 'realistic' games that are everywhere these days.
I was playing with my nephew Castle of Illusion in a Master System last week. The game was released in 1993 and so far I haven't received any update notifications.
who names their nephew castle of illusion
I thought I was the only one that experienced the "oh you can get a rare skin.... but it's for a character you are bad at" like it never seemed to happen to my friends
Number 3 had me recall hearing about how the comic book industry tried to milk consumers by making several different versions of comics with different covers for collectors and the existence of numerous editions of games makes me wonder if we're going to see a crash of the gaming industry similar to the comic book crash.
Ah shit I remember that! I also remember that you couldn't get the awesome could cover unless you purchased X amount of copies
No. The existence of multiple editions of a game is about convincing rich people to spend quite a few extra dollars on something almost worthless while letting people who value their money just buy the base game and maybe the season pass. You don't have video game collections that have worth just because they are a collection.
We might see a crash in the video game industry for another reason entirely though.
What really infuriated me, was having to buy comics from 15 DIFFERENT titles, just to read one story arc in it's entirety.
Buying a game disc, waiting 2 hours for it to install on your console, waiting an additional 2 hours for all the updates because you bought the game a week after it released. Then you still have to insert the disc every time you want to play! Also you'll have to start investing in external hard drives because the console hard drive will be full after 5 or 6 games.
100%
One thing that annoys me personally is achievements you can only unlock through multiplayer. As a person who exclusively plays single player game and is uncomfortable with multiplayer this is extremely annoying when I am trying to get all of the achievements. I definitely have a few games that I'm missing like three achievements and there all multiplayer ones and every time I see those achievements missing I get so frustrated.
More interesting on Overwatch event lootboxes... it seems at the start of it you always get a good lootbox, so then you feel compelled to sit through more disappointment wondering why you decided to fall for that trick once again. :'3
Nothing is quite as infuriating as a game that “installs” instantly but then only lets you launch it so it can begin installing everything else.
Like...WHY? Why can’t you just install entirely from the dashboard? At least that way I can play something else while it’s installing. Mafia III is something that comes to mind.
Also it looks like you got the footage for this video this morning because your Modern Warfare footage is current to Season 6...
I remember this happening with Gears 4, said "ready to start" but it got as far as the main menu then showed the same percentage for all game modes available, at least install the tutorial level before everything else
Benjamin Urch At least in that case you still get to do something. I’m talking about games that actually do all their installs after you start them, forcing you to do nothing while it installs because you have to be in the game for it to install.
Ah the "Ready to Start". I now just wait to full completion.
I've not had a game though that forces you to be in the game to install it yet (thank goodness). I mean that's just a real dick move.
60 gb
Installations on top of installation. Part of the reason i hate playing a new game lately. Not enough space to just install em all and playing it after its been "installed" is likely to take another 30 minutes.
Oh yes, the Ubisoft “special” versions. Do you want the Gold edition? Ultimate Edition? Platinum Ultimate Edition with 3 more side content than the regular Ultimate Edition?
Ew you only want the “base” game? That’s not even an Edition! What you want the “base” game to contain all the stuff we chipped off of the game in order to sell it as different editions? What do you mean we can’t just cut chunks out of a game and call it a “new” edition?
And this is why I haven’t bought AC Origins or Odyssey. Not even worth bothering.
Odyssey's good without the DLC. Never even knew there was a store and I still had a great time.
DaComputerNerd Yeah but before you would have gotten all those songs as the same thing. Fuck I’m really hoping cyberpunk inspires change in the gaming industry.
eh buy 1 month of uplay+ binge the games you want. ends up being quite economical if you want to play the game and can remember to cancel a subscription.
Odyessy's editions are really stupid as the bundle with everything includes both AC Liberation and AC3 Remaster. I'm like I just want the two extra story DLCs, not a game I already own and a remaster I don't want. Let's hope Vahalla tones it down.
@@mnArqal93 it probably wont, seeing as im sure they made quite a bit of money doing it the way they did with the last few.
1:58 Oh this one really hits home for me. I have Origin for my Sims games, Steam for my Steam Games, Elder Scrolls Online has its own launcher. But the most egregious one is Red Dead Redemption 2. I can launch it with Steam but immediately I need the Rockstar Launcher as well to play the game.
10yo Me: Oh man, I can’t wait to play San Andreas, I have so many cheats for it.
30yo Me: Oh man, I can’t wait for GTAV to finally install.. so I can dump my life saving into it to fire an orbital cannon.. once
"I need a tea and a sit down" is the most adorably English thing I've ever heard
I'll put the kettle on
It's how we do
Kettle's boiled.
No English person would say this. The phrase it: "I need a cuppa and a sit down" Source..? Well, I live in England
I need a pint and a lie down
As a PC gamer one that wasn't mentioned that always annoys me is forgetting which one of the many launcher services I bought that game on.
I remember I paid for it, but where? It isn't on Steam, so one of the developer specific launchers? If I remember who made it and which of the major studios they belong to anyway. No, maybe Epic Games was selling it cheaper? Nope, Oh, it is an older game so maybe on the GOG launcher? Oh sod this I'm going to play on the Switch.
Try using GOG it compiles all the games that you own though out all the launchers.
i remember a day when there were no launchers for pc games. you bought it, put it in your computer and played it.
Or realizing a game you already bought on one PC service is now available on another...where your friends are playing. Welp, time to buy it again!
@@MezRahman777 That's why CD Projekt gets a lot of love from gamers despite crunching their developers (and not paying that well, but they offer a lot of services like a 24h gym instead).
Worse... When the launcher is rebranded/taken over and now won't load, due to 'technical issues'... Cities Skyline, I'm looking at you...
The PRICE!
Remember when a brand new N64 came with 2 controllers, 2 games, AND and an external save pack! How much? Less then Gold deluxe pre-order that's for sure
PC Graphics card now costs more than two last gen consoles. A USED ONE! Thanks scalpers and miners.
So you're just gonna gloss over why the price has increased? Ok then...
That string of James Bond puns made my day, may God bless you.
This video is exactly why at some point I stopped buying new games and just decided to finish ALL the games I own but never played because something shiny came along.
This way I always have something to play and NEVER pay a full price for a game because by the time I get to the "new ones" they are a few years old.
Same here. I'm a simple man, if a piece of entertainment is going to be a hassle, I don't put money into it and do something else for fun.
Not only the games are cheaper as they are old now. You don't need a high end PC either - more money saved. And if a game is still broken years after release, you'll never have bought it - and never will.
yes i also buy games 2- 3 years out on steam, i just started divinity 2. at least at that age all the shit that needed to be fixed day one is either fixed by devs or in the case of skyrim/ fallout 4 fixed by community.
the only brand new gave ive bought this year is baldurs gate 3. just because im a enormous fan of D&D and LARIAN studios
@@gwahli9620 * coughs * GTA * coughs * modern warfare * coughs * any ea game that wasent already released as free such as apex * coughs * etc you get my point
@@jamesbates9038 I downloaded battlefield one year later.. I loved it.. But when I went back it was twice as buggy and it was pritty buggy before
Also when there's normal currency and a second currency like gems that are super hard to get and when you do its only like 2 of them
And every shop only accepts those gems not coins.
It's like... why have coins in first place?
Fobija 13 Yessss!!! Like seriously what are the coins for
@@zarfa-de1266 yeah! Like even if you can buy something with coins the amount you need of coins to buy one item is ridiculous hight that not even zero are written normally.
Fobija 13 I know right!? It’s super annoying. It’s like 20000 for 5 ore or something
War Thunder has 4 types of currency, but it takes one of the types of currency to convert another type of currency to a useful currency - which actually costs "more" in real-world money than just buying what you were going to pay in the second currency to achieve with the first.....
Ellen's line delivery in this video was ON POINT.
This happened to me with five different games: I got several characters up to maximum level and had several other characters close to maximum, then I found myself right back at the bloody beginning! Then I would get booted back repeatedly to the beginning! It was worse when many of the characters I was working on were only available through certain in-game activities!
Ended up deleting the entire games that I spent days (if not weeks) on out of bloody frustration!
Having to pay for online gaming on consoles even though the console manufacturers don't even own the servers running the online sessions in a certain game
Why do I have a feeling that you are intensely looking at a console with its name starting with S
@@retrobit5973 Switch? Sony? Series SeX?
Paid online was always a scam - if it was necessary how come PC has never had it? It's simply a form of rent thinly disguised under claims about servers and the odd freebie like SNES games. Consoles charge rent for online simply because they can, because they have a monopoly control over the online stores on their platform. On PC there are multiple competing stores, hence online is free.
@@linrichardson8250 Let's not even talk about _subscription_ to online... Oh, right, whoops.
@@linrichardson8250 ps3 online was gold, much better than Xbox gold too bad Sony and nintendo fell down the rabbit hole
During the lockdown, months ago, my internet cable was broken and needed replacement from my internet provider... 5 days to contemplate on how so many of my games NEEDED internet... EVEN fighting games DBFZ and MK11... like... what? I was so sad.
You just reminded me that I haven't checked this whole week's turnip prices 😭
2:04 Hahaha; "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move" - Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
8:52 - Those were some Sharpe puns Ellen.
How dare you make me read this with my own eyes
The "Boo" is required to balance the pun and maintain..... Equilibrium
Ellen's "I need a tea and a sit down" is where we're all at in 2020 right now.
My irritation with Overwatch lootboxes in events, is that when i get a legendary it’s always a non-event skin. So it always ends up with me having to buy the skins I want instead of getting them in the 50 lootboxes i played so much for during the event.
I still have the physical copy of Overwatch. Has Hanzo stopped being a Pariah in Competitive mode?
I am appalled that the endless DLCs only got a brief mention and weren't one of the points; I mean we - the players - essentially buy an unfinished product (Ashura's Wrath is probably the prime example of this x.x) because within a month there's already a DLC for the game. You can't tell me the developers had not planned this from the get-go.
It's a shameful, money-grabbing practice, to me even more infuriating than the loot boxes.
Kewryn I think it’s because DLC is practically the definition of a double edged sword. When it comes to DLC it can be as good as it can be bad.
I don't mind DLC provided two things: it's significantly cheaper than the game itself. Generally about 1/2 the price is ideal, but 2/3 is more realistic. And it's a large expansion, equivalent to about 1/2 or greater of the non-tutorial playtime of the base game. Otherwise, feck off with paying for it. If EA can have free DLC, then so can you, you money grubbing bastards.
DLC ain't bad if it's extras or it explores something further . But actually putting some of the game behind a DLC just to complete it is bad. A lot of the time it's devs trying to reach the insane deadlines that publishers demand, who most likely went "Oh just finish the rest later and we'll make it paid DLC"
I still want to play Asura's Wrath but that puts me off.
DLC is only a new thing on consoles. PCs have had it for ages. They just used to call it expansions. Diablo: Hellfire? Heck even Wizardry II and III were effectively add ons to the original.
I'm. Not sure asuras wrath counts, since the dlc was supposed to be the sequal, wasn't it?
14:28 "So those are the little irritations we just have to live with nowadays..." If enough people got together and boycotted specific games and/or publishers due to some of these so-called "features" things would change in a heartbeat. The problem isn't the developers; the problem is we've become conditioned to "just live with" these things. We're so desperate to play that game right this very second, so crippled by FOMO that we can't take a step back and say, "No more."
There's a quote that says, "What you allow, you encourage." Game developers do these things because the players let them. If we want that to change, we need to make our opinions known in a way they can quantify - either in terms of money or playtime (or rather, lack thereof).
No, things would not change; they make tons of money from what they call "whales" (people who spend a lot of money on those problems) that won't give these publishers any incentive to make good games.
@@bluepegasus1322 Perhaps that won't get bigger companies to change (EA, Activision, Blizzard, Rockstar, etc.), but it will still help smaller companies by expanding their potential consumer base with players looking for something different, or something that the big name developers used to provide. As long as the majority of gamers are hooked into always online games with constant tasks and dailies, there will never be enough momentum for newer competitors to get a foot hold.
@@vysethegallant638 Can't argue with that.
This. It's blatant in Squadrons. A total trash heap of a game but it gets good reviews because people are slobbering over the star wars name and it's playable for *just* enough people... ugh
i love Fall Out NV and Fall Out 3 and 4 but i will NOT BUY 76 for this exact reason. DON'T ENCOURAGE THEIR GREED. if a game has no single player GOOD value, don't buy it! The problem is we have a bunch of bozos who still buy craps with microtransactions! i will buy a DLC that have some interresting NEW content for my favorite games, so I DO ENCOURAGE good value games and DLCs.
That background music is the best thing ever. Memories, nostalgia omg
I enjoy all of the videos from you guys so don't stop, you're all absolute treasures. I did want to add here in comment to the having to install from disc requirement in order to play. In our newer day systems this is actually to our benefit as previous consoles had no choice but to read and then process from the disc which, as you have noted in a previous segment, is why games hid loading the mext map area behind cleverly concealed plot devices. As the newer consoles utilize SSD, transfer rates are much better than from older read and write systems. So, though we find it annoying, the amount of time saved over the course of the game from those loading sequences is to our benefit. Keep it up guys! Cheers!
So is this what OXtra sound like when they're angry and salty? They still sound nicer than me when I'm happy...
yo- you ok?
Thank you for adding constant online connectivity to the list. I do have to beg to differ though. We DON'T have to live with these inconveniences (and they are in no way MINOR). Don't buy games or other products from these companies that produce and promote these business practices in their games. As paying customers, we should have a voice and they should listen properly, not rob us of our hard-earned money.
Thank god I'm not the only person who realizes they need to listen to us. Not do whatever they feel like
@@TruckerReviews they only have to give a shit if everyone buys into your boycott idea.
Back in reality, publishers have been fine tuning how far they can push without tipping most people to this point - completely ruining your boycott before you'd even thought of it.
Monetization in games hinges on an exploitation of human psychology, and we badly need regulatory bodies to recognize that this is predatory and should be punishable.
@@equious8413 sadly it is true, for every person that feels people need to stop letting these companies walk all over us and boycott anything, many companies have other holdings or companies they own. Or for every person like me theres still 100 more that will still buy their crap so boycotting is absolutely dead to everyone except small mom and pop buissiness
Yeah, I just had a thought(scary). With solid-state getting cheaper and cheaper, why hasn't console makers created a solid-state cartridge? It seems to me that solid-state is far superior to the CD/DVD disks they use today. This is shown by the requirement to install your games onto a harddrive. Imagine how great that would be if they could make that work.
I love how Ubisoft is guilty of all of these.
Oh god the updates/patches, it's not a patch when you are just making us download a slightly newer build of the ENTIRE game.
That's coming for Destiny 2...
Exactly! A patch is "oh whoops the enemy sometimes gets trapped behind this invisible wall," not "oh whoops the combat system doesn't work."
Fallout 76, the day 1 patch was larger than the entire flipping game
7:40 This is why it is a next level relative move if you buy a console and game for christmas, open it and then download the games to have them ready. Or come early and do it overnight.
I always debate about opening the game, since I know some of my family likes being able to open the wrapper for whatever reason, but I am also actively paranoid that the game may not even work or them not being able to play right away because updates.
when i worked at a video game store this is what we always told out customers whenever they bought a console or game, especially xbox ones cause of the day one patch for the console software
@@homerman76 you can wrap the game without the cellophane I guess?
"Games today come out in ludicrus amount of variants"
*Stares at Street Fighter 2*
Yes... today...
To my knowledge thats the only game that did that back then. Nowadays its virtually all of them.
I've so many complains... Overcomplicated game controls that I forget when not playing the game for a month, huge menu options, games that require 400 hours to see the end. Come on, I just want to play, i don't wanna get married to the game.
Selling disc versions of the game that you can't resell or even loan to friends because there are one time use codes involved. Looking at you, supposed "Game of the Year" edition of Dragon Age Inquisition, and how anyone who uses it after the first user can only play the base game with you.
Zela Morre Or single redemption downloads, like how Final Fantasy X/X-2 on Switch only contains X on the cartridge. If you want to play X-2 on Switch and bought the case and cart in a brick and mortar store you need to get a new copy or hope the previous owner didn’t redeem the code if you got it pre-owned.
Interesting that selling a game has went from saying what new features it has to what annoying “features” it doesn’t have
I don't play modern day games but that bit about activation reminded me of the copyright wheels we used to get in Amiga games back in the 80s/90s.
In addition to loot boxes, I’ve noticed many games now have multiple virtual currencies. WWE 2K18 had 4 different currencies, Riders Republic has 3, etc.
The idea that a game is "ready to start" which is code for "you can look at the main menu while the rest of the game actually installs"
I can't believe Loot Boxes are still legal, especially for children's games like Overwatch.
Might not be soon
You think overwatch is for children? lol what?
macsmith2013 why would it be illegal? Weather it should be used is a different argument. But there are plenty of things that are sold that have a lotto element like loot boxes.
Cant believe overwatch is considered a kids game. It's all murder all the time.
@@Bigd2k yes and that's why they should be illegal. Its illegal for children to gamble and loot boxes are gambling. Games like fortnite and over watch have pegi ratings of 12.
I really do miss the days when you could unlock just as many awesome custom skins, weapons or skills for your favourite game, only you did this by playing the actual game and earning actual decent rewards for completing that mission, those bonus side quests or pulling off a particularly difficult move with perfect button press timings. And you didn't have to spend £50 for a game and then a further £200 on top just to unlock those exact same things.
I'll go one better for you: MODS! Awesome free stuff from skins to models to new game modes to total conversions that completely changed the game! ALL FOR FREE!
Curse AAA publishers! Bring back the days of good old UT and Quake and stuff.
Gotta love it when you pay for thegame, the expansion pass, and monthly subscription, only to be asked to buy the wholle next major expansion, abd another season pass to keep up with all of the super-grindy content of that super awesome game you fell in love with at first trailer.
YES, I'M LOOKING AT YOU, DESTINY!