It’s even worse when an Achievement pops up across the bottom of screen at just the right moment to cover a text block you need to read or a button prompt that makes you die because you didn’t press it.
@@RtistiqSkubie Go to Settings>Preferences>Notifications and select Default notification position, you should be able to move all your notifications including achievements to another part of the screen. I have the XB1 Elite, so don't know if this differs with each version.
In TF2, there’s an achievement you get by being healed by an enemy medic as a disguised spy, and whenever you get an achievement, it is announced in chat and a big trophy pops above your head, even if you are disguised, which blows your cover. It only happens once per account, but it’s still gonna be annoying for new players who just got a hang of acting and just got their cover blown by an achievement
One that bugs me to no end is the dreaded "Secret/Hidden" achievements that encourage you to simply keep playing to unlock them. I understand the story spoiler ones where developers want them to remain hidden, but some games I have played have almost every achievement hidden with their requirements being things like "jump on the bed 20 times".
Bahaha that’s happened to me before.... on outlast when the big naked dude with his wang out is threatening you from the other side of the door, then outta nowhere “BLING!!” Lol smfh
A frequent one on Playstation is when it captures the screenshot of the moment you got the trophy, but after the screen has already gone black from the cutscene back into the game. I think half of my Arkham trophies have black screenshots attached to them. 😂
So true lol, I swear pretty much half my screenshots from games are just blank screens with achievements in the corner of them. Take the screenshot at the right time Playstation, god!
@@Jeremy-ql1or False. Not every friend has to like the exact same types of video games, or even games in general. Most of my friends don't like horror movies or games like I do, and the few that do don't always play on the same system as I do. Therefore, multiplayer achievements can still be out of reach, even among friends.
Multiplayer trophies can jump off a cliff and so can difficulty trophies that don't unlock when a higher difficulty is completed. Otherwise I more than willing to jump through hoops to collect all the trophies on games that I enjoyed playing. Oh and those trophies that don't unlock if you skip the credits? They can jump off a cliff too.
I don't mind multiplayer trophies as long as it's something like "kill 10 people with..." but trophies related to competitive/ranked modes or leaderboards can go commit toaster bath
@PercyXOXO Worse are games with loud background sound and you can't hardly hear what they are talking about. Example. Those damn explosives or bombing runs.
as someone with crippling anxiety myself, i feel you. i always paid my friend a pizza, if he would get the multiplayer trophies for me, so i can get that platinum. fuck multiplayer trophies
What's worse is when it's a local multi player game, so you can't even play with others online when you have no one to play it in the same room as you.
Any and all Console/Steam achievements that stay on your profile requiring servers to stay up can rot in a pit. Servers go down before you Platinum it? Game can no longer be platinum'd under any circumstance, eat shit, slacker! Screw this and screw the devs who are fucked enough in the head to do this.
I'll one-up you. One word: MAG. It was a game on PS3 that my roommate (at the time) got. He talked me into trying it on my PS3. Turns out, it's MULTIPLAYER ONLY. About a month after I ignorantly unlocked it on my profile, the servers got shut down. Yay, game that can never be played again!
@@MysticMae21 Good thing that I have siblings who share my love for video games. (Actually, I think that the reason that I love video games is BECAUSE of my older brothers.)
I used to hate the achievements linked to online play, I'm sitting at home playing this game alone because I specifically don't want to interact with people!
@@MysticMae21 Or that either the servers are a real crap fest which aren't really working properly... or that they have been shut down just a few years after release and now are unobtainable forever. In any way, online multiplayer achievements gotta stop. The absolute worst are DLC achievements though, after having worked so hard to 100% a game.
I love how in Double Dragon Neon getting the achievement for beating the game is synced with the lyrics of the credits song. So when it gets to "Here is a medal for your victory" the achievement pops up. That was realy cool when I saw that :D
And you need to do it to get the "get all achievements" achievement. You also have to get 100% on the completion list which involves a lot of rng challenges
Depends on the game, the real horror of multiplayer achievements is knowing that the lack of anyone playing or worse, closed servers, makes them completely impossible to ever receive, locking away a full achievement completion forever. Though some of those rng based things really do also feel that way as well (stupid dq11 casino accolades.)
I played a gacha/turn based game and one of the achievement is a certain luck level.. Basically like 2 stars summon gives 20 luck.. 3 stars 30 etc etc... Thing is.. This needed like a LOT of rare ones and im like 50 short of my highest luck.. Which is like 2 rare 1 super rare and 1 ultra rare... Which means i wont get it unless RNG is super generous for me
So true, I think that I laughed at that one when I first played through the game and got that achievement. Right after, I got the Pit Boss achievement because I found the description "Show that pit who's boss" to be absolutely hilarious, and to show everyone that I showed that pit who's boss as well.
When achievements are tied to dead external services. It's now impossible to get the achievement for using a custom mask in Army of Two: 40th Day because the site where you create it is unavailable since Devil's Cartel launch
Same case with the Skate Editor (or whatever it was called) in Skate 2 & 3, thus eliminating any method of obtaining that one achievement/trophy. Past me will never not be happy about getting that one.
There's a very simple achievement for Saint's Row 3 "Jumped in- create and share a character online" that is no longer possible to achieve as the server no longer exists. (The same achievement is called "Saintifed" in SR4 and is unavailable for the same reason :(
In defense of Dishonored, playing the game without killing everyone in full stealth is much harder so it makes sense to reward you for this way and not for the easier ways to play
Exactly. The intended way to play is to enjoy the story the first time through playing how you want and then if you want the extra challenge of clean hands or ghost then you are rewarded for it. The only complaint against that is from people who play games purely for achievements, in which case, I’m sorry for you.
@@homegrownwookie7589 there's a saying that "gamers will optimize the fun out of anything". for some people seeing the achievement makes people feel obligated to get the achievement on their first playthrough, even if that's not the best way to play.
I feel that whole hating multiplayer thing in my soul. There are soooooo many games that I can't get platinum in because of multiplayer trophies. 😞 I'm just not interested in playing multiplayer at all unless it's with family. I really miss when almost EVERY game was story driven and not 'let's see who can survive out of these random people we've put in a room'. Single player campaigns should be the focus again.
@@WarpPal yeah I 100% a lot of games now can't do the same on pc as because servers and because cross save I was level 1 getting killed by level 25 (max level) and couldn't do it same for dlc that gets unlisted
Yes oh my god when the DLC achievements are there even if you don't own the DLC. No Skyrim I can't adopt a child because you won't let me without making me pay another ten dollars.
That happened to me twice over the lifecycle of the original Halo:Reach. Combined with the problems described in #3 (superspecific multiplayer tasks on specific maps, that you'll only get the chance to play if everyone else in your lobby also owns the DLC, and even then you gotta be lucky) and I gave up trying to complete my achievements for it for a third time
In "Star Wars: The Old Republic" to collect all the datacrons, you literally have to consult a forum or even the official website in order to see what ridiculous acrobatics you have perform to find this datacron. (Precious few are just left out in the open). But at least you get a stats boost out of it and not just the cheevo.
I actually quit SW:TOR because of that. I can accept Achievements that are essentially impossible (looking at you The Elder Scrolls Online and the "Emperor!" achievement in PVP-number one on the leaderboards though it looks like it was tweaked in 2020 to now be within your faction and not "the highest ranked out of _all_ factions in PvP") and dismiss them, but something like that in SW:TOR? God it's like a much much much more irritating version of Dragon Age: Inquisition's crystal shards (which were annoying and you didn't even get a really cool reward if you were grinding around looking for shards all the time >.>)
Yeah I think I spent almost two months getting almost all of the datacrons. I Never got the fleets ones and most of the expansions either. I managed the rishi and makeb but that was it. They were such a pain to get to or need multiple people to get them.
A friend and I had great fun trying to collect them and found it quite challanging to figure out how to get to some of them, nevermind actually getting to some of the places. Though we were never that hardcore about it, we just tried to get the ones we came across and while we could spend more time on some of them that I'd care to admit, we wouldn't let it go so far that it was ruining the game for us.
@@lavrentivs9891 I think you make a good point: if you have a Buddy (or a guild) then these things become a lot less... teeth grindingly infuriating. There are parts ESO I know I shouldn't play solo because it's worse than any Fromsoft boss in terms of smashing my face into an unyielding brick wall.
The legend says that if you scream "drivey drivey vroom vroom challenge" in your bathroom three times at midnight, your father will appear and ask what kind of drugs you are using.
Let's try. "Drivey drivey vroom vroom challenge!" Oh, hello. Nice to meet you, Mike. Big fan. Umm, how to get you back to the UK? Maybe you can call Ellen and get her to say it again?
"Achievements that give you a gamerscore that's not a multiple of 5" Now I have the urge to become a game dev, just so I can make sure every achievement has a different, prime, gamerscore.
I want to make a game with a bunch of 1g achievements so you can even out your gamerscore, and a different game that gives you 7g for starting the game and 43g for finishing it.
Most cases of "Screw it, we're giving spoilers" achievements. Most developers are generally good about making these hidden achievements, but every so often, you get one that forgets and looking at the achievement list in-game spoils big plot points. The only ones I forgive for this are Mega Man 9 and Mega Man 10... look, if you haven't figured out BY NOW that it's all Dr. Wily's fault, and seeing "Whomp Wily!" as the name of the "beat the game" achievement in both games, I don't know what to tell you.
then again some games will mark majority of the achievements as "spoiler" "hidden" and when that achievement is not story related, but requires specific actions/choices throughout the playthrough, it can be frustrating to only be missing one achievement in the game after maybe playing it multiple times trying to get everything, to then have to look up what the achievement wants. this is without talking about the achievements that even with reading their descriptions it might still be a moon logic test to figure it out. on PlayStation the console does allow you to after a prompt look at the "spoiler" trophies this at least helps with the former.
I hate hidden trophies that really.. really shouldn't be hidden. Like there's one for killing 5 people with one barrage in the story mode of battlefront 2. Why is this a hidden trophy? It's not like the Easter egg trophies in the Remastered versions of modern warfare's 1 and 2 where they're hidden because they're little nods to the previous games and you'd only really attempt them if you had played them before (I got the trophy for shooting Shepard at the beginning of MW2 without realizing it was actually a trophy).
@@kaitlyngarner740 I hate those too. It's either plot based (which is fine, no spoilers that way) or something really obscure like "Tapdance on your mother's grave, while in a frock, singing God Save The Queen, at 10pm at night, smoking a cigar and have six people watch".
@@kaitlyngarner740 One that really bothered was Distance, there's 2 hidden achievements that are so specific that not even a detailed description would help. The first one: The Other Side. Description: skuttling, skuttling, skuttling... What you have to do: find a crab in every level of the Lost to the Echoes campaign, almost all of them are hidden in places you would never even think of looking it up, to unlock a secret campaign called The Other Side, completing this campaign awards the achievement, which is easier said than done because the campaign is Dark Souls on wheels. The second: Worthy. Description: Earn the approval of the Elders. What you have to do: finish the The Other Side campaign again, but this time you have to take a secret route in every section of the campaign, where every single one either has a time to be completed that leaves no room for error (but you can try as many times as you want) or require you to go really far from the track to press a button to open a hidden door (which can be missed and you have to reset the level to try again).
Ah I never considered stuff like this before. For the shadow of the colossus one they could have easily left the achievement to pop up when you wake up back at the temple and the statue blows up.
When they said "not getting the easy achievement when you beat the game on hard", I instantly thought Lost Planet 2. I had to go back and beat the game on EVERY difficulty. I realized i haven't gotten the achievement for Easy even after i beat the game on Extreme
How about every time you did something that you were certain there should be an achievement for, but no, no achievement for you. I will still collect one copy of every in-game armour and weapon, have barrels full of every crafting material just in case, lockpick every door/chest and clear every corner of the map. It is a lot of time and work. You owe me something game!
Just look at the achievements. Save yourself some time. *EDIT:* Hidden trophies and achievements can hide story based ones. Though it is a risk and reward thing depending on how you feel about spoilers if they don't.
@@AlmightyPolarBear Hidden Trophies/Acheivements exist. So, you not only need to look at the list, you have to search online to find a complete list, and more often than not, it spoils the game a bit.
Dark Souls 2 has achievements for collecting all of each type of spell. Some of those spells are unique rewards for ranking up PvP covenants, and are next to impossible 6 years later when most people still playing, aren’t doing multiplayer. The game gives you an alternative that’s almost as annoying, buy them from an npc in NG+2, behind a locked door that requires you play 2/3rds of the playthrough to unlock.
@@lonewanderer1328 Ehh dark souls games are notoriously easy to repeat run. Your first playthrough might take you 40-70 hours based on your skill level, but if you REALLY wanted to run through a second time on the same character as fast as possible, casual ng+ runs can easily be 1-2 hours. Hell, casual new game playthroughs of ds1 can be sub 2 hour if you know what you are doing. DS2 had the unique pleasure/problem that to get things like, the ring of thorns+2, you had to invade and kill another player 1000 times. That alone can take you the better part of a year, and thats IF the servers are working (which they arent at the moment) and IF you actually win regularly.
Sdogofdoom i beat dark souls 3 times w/one character once. Back on the 360. Shit was cash. I played og ds2 special edition, the preorder version, and I didn’t like it lol
ds3 has one of the worst platinums. You have to farm for HOURS just to be able to get all miracles, spells, rings and pyromancies. Collectively, it took 15-20 hours to farm.
Honestly just the fact that achievement lists exist kind of ruin the experience of playing the game for the sake of playing the game. Before starting a new game I always quickly run through the list just to gauge what I should be doing before/during/after doing what I'm gonna be doing. Having a list of achievements activates my two worst qualities: being a perfectionist, and being lazy; if there's a way to over-achieve with minimal effort I can't not do it
I think you being lazy is just a side effect of being a perfectionist. Because you won't start it if you're not sure you can execute it well and use up your time imo
I wouldnt read the list first because of spoilers. the last thing I need to do is read there is say, an achievement for killing "jack" titled "Death to Traitors"then starting up the game only to see my sidekick is named jack. Great, thanks, now I know he will turn on me eventually and I will have to kill him (or at least its an option) Now I wont be surprised when the big twist happens.
Getting a bloody bronze PS trophy for something that is extremely tough, extremely grindy or playing through the game a second time in the hard mode. Always pisses me off.
The ones I hate are best the game on hardest. Gameplay is hardly different from hard but you can only save at a bed. Like I'm an adult who cant just play until the next bed to save my game. I sometimes gotta drop my game to take care of things and not come back for a few days
Just wanna say, one thing I love about this channel is that you give proper spoiler warnings beforehand where necessary. There's far too many list videos that just jump straight in, or just give a generic "Hey there's spoilers in this video!" without giving specifics, and I'm just like "I haven't played every game or watched every film, dammit!" So I really appreciate that little detail :3
The only reason I don't have a Platinum in AC: Black Flag is because of the GOSH DARN MULTIPLAYER TROPHIES Thanks for bringing this up OXtra, I'll send you my therapy bill.
Likewise for me in L4D2. Complete all campaigns on Expert Realism, kill a million infected, get through a campaign with zero friendly fire incidents, hold out at the downed airliner without taking any damage and get through a finale without taking damage? Easy. Carry an opposing player through five rows of chairs at the wedding in the park in versus mode? Not happening.
I gave up after Brotherhood, got every single achievement except for the obnoxious one where you had to execute *every* possible move/kill/evasion in a single match. Even playing in a lobby of all friends, its near impossible to pull off unless everyone is doing a very specific thing. Tldr; missed every achievement achievement because of near impossible to get multiplayer achievement.
When an achievement requires you to use something other than the game itself and is no way linked to the game. Fable for an example needing xbox smart glass for 360, which no longer exists.
Or as in Fable 3, during my second playthrough, the first part in the last mission, the prison, was bugged while entering through the sewer. Not only I can't play the quest anymore, the whole save point was broken, reloading the game would always let fall through the floor... :/ This leads to another very unique thing only to the Fable series; you can't create a backup save data, like one on hard drive, the other one in the Cloud...
In Dishonored's defense, the achievement "Mostly Flesh and Steel" does actually give you an idea for a different way to play the game. Not an especially _fun_ way to play, but at least it makes you change up your playstyle.
I've never had an issue with achievements that ask for a different play style. I don't generally hunt for achievements unless I already like the game, which in that case I'm inclined to play it multiple times, with different play styles.
@@drakenn342 exactly! If I'm on the hunt for trophies, I'm already invested and like the game, so if I need to play the game over again for a plat, I'm probably not too fussed. The Dishonored plat is one of my proudest game accomplishments simply *because* I love the game; I think people are trophy hunting the wrong way if they're upset by certain asks of trophies. Don't hunt if you don't like the game enough.
Ox: "Something we don't like about video games is.." Everyone: "Assassins' Creed feather!" It's actually a bit impressive that they have created something that is nearly universally hated, but we all still love the game and collected all of the feathers.
I got another example for you guys, one word: GRINDING! Imagine having to kill the same enemy over and over again, until it randomly decides to give you that 1% drop rate item you need to upgrade/forge all weapons Some examples: Tropezahedron on FF XIII (And you needed 6!!), Best weapons for Donald and Goofy on the First KH, Exotic weapons on Destiny
Well, grinding isn't that bad if you have something else playing in the background. Still tedious, but not as much as only focusing on doing the same thing over and over again.
As much as I love achievements, you just brought up the specific instance that killed my love for an entire genre of gaming and the mechanics behind them. I can't even go back and play the older FFs anymore, and I still have a ton of love for those. Between the initial burnout on grinding growing up, plus doing it for literal hours for an FF13's "own every weapon in the game" crap, I sense levelling mechanisms and I just nope the hell out. And it's infecting everything right now, so my niches of Assassin's Creed and Arkham aren't even safe from this crap.
@@eiyukabe Generalization there to just assume no one gets anything out of going for achievements. Of course it depends on the achievement itself. Achievements based only on tedium I can understand, like the first Gears of War where you had to kill 10 thousand people in online matches, but giving people challenges to get more out of their games can provide entertainment, push them to get better at them, or play in unusual ways they normally wouldn't. I push myself to go for the achievements I'm sure I can get with some practice, and skip the ones that I know I can't or don't want to sink dozens of hours into. If I can get 100%, then great. If I don't I don't. As long as I'm still having fun I'll go for it.
At some point you have to question whether focusing on achievements is valuable. Many games require me to play multiplayer for certain achievements, or to do something difficult that I do not think is fun. The simplest answer is to ignore those achievements, and regard any achievements I don't want to get as optional - which, indeed, they are. Of course, I frequently get grief from other players when I look at something that could be done and say "but I don't want to," as I go to do something else. Even in games as open-ended as Minecraft, I cannot count the number of people on multiplayer servers who stand in my base staring at various ores in the walls or floor, then eventually screw up the courage to ask why I haven't mined them "yet." It often takes a surprising amount of convincing before they accept that no, I don't care about that ore and yes, they can have it. The idea that I simply DON'T WANT very much redstone or lapis confuses them, and they often make helpful suggestions of what I could do with it. Similarly, I get all kinds of advice on how I could get the last couple achievements on various games, and it confuses people when I literally don't want them because I don't care.
Yeah. That's what I hate about achievements; some people think you're a noob when you don't have a lot of them. I play a lot of sims 4, for example, but I only have 5 achievements. Like, why does my sim have to listen to all radio stations and watch all tv channels when I can do things I find entertaining?
Games are supposed to be fun. If you aren't having fun with a certain aspect, why engage? Especially in Minecraft where there are so many achievements that require you to do things you'd never normally do.
games in the 90's: congratulations on beating the game! Now try a harder difficulty games now: congratulations on beating the game! Now try an easier difficulty for that achievement
I know this pain perfectly. I want to max HOARD achievements on Steam, but sadly NO ONE plays multiplayer anymore. Multiplayer achievements are a cancer.
I am a huge stealth lover, especially in Dishonored and I've done the clean hands and never detected shit, but a huge annyance about having to do it for the achievement, was that not only rats you've summoned count as a kill from you and fails the achievement, but when an enemy dies at any other point, even if not by your hand, that also fails clean hands. The very first mission after the prologue has the biggest problem with this. It took me ages to work out why it was always claiming one person died in the summary. It's because there's an Overseer who gets mercy-killed due to being infected with the plague, and even though you're not the one to shoot him, it's his friends that do, it still counts as a death. To get around this, you have to interrupt their conversation about killing him before they can do it. If you just throw glass or a dart, it alerts them and they stop their dialogue then just walk away once their alert meter has gone back down.
If there's a achievement that requires to play a game over again, at least let it be a game where I can make choices that can change the game in some way! Or at least a short game.
Trying to get the "Not Even One" achievement in Vampyr. It makes the combat (which is middling) annoyingly hard and means you miss the best content in the game, seeing how killing different characters effects the others and the rest of their district. It's like a challenge to completely miss the best mechanics and writing, and tons of people hated that game because they tried to play it like that.
The next assassins creed game needs to have a two second side quest where some rando asks you to collect 10000 doodads and your character laughs in their face
The Stanley Parable, it has an achievement that is impossible to get. And i'm not talking about the "Dont play the Stanley Parable for 5 years achievement". No i mean "The Impossible achievement" that is literally impossible to get
Then why does Steam show that 4.9% of players have gotten the "Unachievable" achievement? I know they edited a config file to get it, but it still shows that it is possible, albeit not by conventional means.
@@RyanSmith-sm9lj actually it's not even by editing the config file it's literally just a hidden keybinding in the game that you just bind to any button using the console or the startup options
I just started the game, played for 20 minutes and had to go so I closed it and realized I have it. How it's awarded apparently has changed a few times with the updates and I've read it's based on pseudo random numbers having 8's in specific digits.
As someone mentioned, about 5% of players have that one. Take a look at The Stanley Parable Demonstration, which has one achievement that it gives you while you play it, but takes away as soon as you shut it down.
The "not enough resources" thing. The Legend of Spyro: A New Beginning did the same thing. You can upgrade all 4 elemental breaths to a good enough point to fight Cynder at the end of the game, but to max them all out you need to play through it twice at least, and that's IF you know where all the crystals are. If you don't know many of the spots it could take a third playthrough. At the very least, it's an easy and relatively short game.
Oh, I loved the way Ellen talked about Multiplayer Trophies/Achievements. That really is the only way to talk about those horrid things. Seriously, the only reason I haven't Platinumed a handful of games is because of multiplayer trophies... though I haven't Platinumed the rest generally because I don't have the time, patience with RNG, or skill to pull them all off, haha. I also wholeheartedly agree about achievements that force you to play a certain way. In general, my idea of stealth is "if no one lives to tell about it, it counts as stealth." I'm okay with having to replay a game for a trophy if it's a game I like, and it's because I'm trying to see the results of branching story content... but even then, no more than two playthroughs, please. But the rest of those reasons you mentioned, like the way The Last of Us games do it, are really dick moves. I'm of a split mind for collectibles. I'm generally okay with them as long as they're not missable, not too many of them, and there's some kind of quality of life aspect to help pinpoint their locations so you don't spend endless hours finding the last few. So, InFamous = good; The Last of Us = bad. At least with awkward trophies, you can always use the "completionist" excuse that you wanted to do as much as you could. :) Okay, so this ended being a rambly commentary on the video. Woops.
My self-imposed rule on achievements is I'll go completionist on them if it seems attainable for me. Something like Gears of War's "Seriously" achievement where you have to kill like 10 thousand people gets a big nope from me. Achievements for playing one specific way are fine, because there's usually a branching path where you can get to see all the content and it's easiest to just stick with one way to see both sides. Like Infamous. It doesn't pay to be neutral, because each set of powers is distinctly linked to your moral alignment, as well as the drawn cutscenes, so playing fully good and fully bad allows you to get everything out of game.
@@kyuubinaruto17 For sure. I largely agree with a game like InFamous. I loved playing the two roles of the games. And I'm with you 100% on certain achievements... if they're going to take too much time or cause too much grief (usually like playing on the hardest difficulty), I don't want to go through that. I'd rather have fun with another game than replay most games on harder difficulties. Same reason I avoid Soulsborne games... sure, I could probably beat them eventually, but I'd rather have fun with something else.
@@AzureKnight2 Well, I'd say it depends on the game when it comes to difficulty. If you enjoy the game then I don't see why not make it harder. Even before achievements playing things on a harder difficulty was always about proving to yourself you could, unless it's one of those games where you can only see the true ending on the hardest level. For most games it only locks you out of things if you're on the lowest difficulty. Which can be bull anyway because of region difficultys. Streets of Rage 3 locked you out of moving past level 5 out of 7 if you played the easiest difficulty, but the American normal was the Japanese hard, and so if you played on easy you're playing the Japanese normal.
That moment playing a game which has an npc speaking in another language with subtitles and an achievement pops up over the subtitles causing you to miss an essential detail or two for the rest of the game.
Thought they were going through this with Banjo Kazooie showing. Has the achievement for collecting all notes, but also has a puzzle minigame with the painting in your home. The paintings showed moving clips of Banjo going through a level. One of them had Banjo collecting notes in the clip and if you saw that the game counted them as collected somehow and didn't show them for you on the map anymore either, but they didn't add to your total count. Result: When you collected every single note in the game you found out you were missing about 5 of them and have no way of obtaining them, thus making you start all over again. They finally patched it after a while, but man that sucked when it happened to me.
back on the 360, I was playing offline for a couple months and ended up having to replace my xbox for some reason. i eventually got back online. the issue was i had been playing "Wet" while offline. I went online after having completed the game a couple times. So going through my achievement history i have the achievements for completing the game on 'golden bullet difficulty', but not for completing the first chapter. i have also collected all of the collectibles.... but not 50% of them. fun game though.
On the other hand, i'd've hated it much more if they had remembered all the "completed this bit" info and awarded dozens of achievements all within the same MILLISECOND... xD
I’d add general burnout from game completion. Even favorite games you eventually will want to put down, but excessive or extensive achievements just take the fun away, making you feel unsatisfied in the end.
My problem is that I'm a collector by nature and achievments make me paranoid about not getting them all and thus I play the game in a frustrating perfectionist way
I used to be that way. Dumped a bunch of time in games I don't particularly care for. Now I'm at the point where if I like the game, I'll go for as many trophies as possible. If I don't enjoy, just get to the end and be done.
@@drakenn342 This is the way. Games are entertainment. You shouldn't force yourself to do something that's just there to steal your time without giving anything back. I collected all achievements in The Swapper. But my incentive was something entirely different. There were computers you can find and those have some extra story snippets that enhanced the overall story. So my incentive was to find them. And always remember to disable the steam overlay to hide the achievement popups (or the equivalent on consoles), so you don't break your immersion unnecessarily.
@@drakenn342You just summarized why I seldom hunt or achievements. If I'm going to spend enough time to get them all, it better be fun. So far I have all the achievements for the Fatal Frame Remakes . . . and no other game. I don't finish most games I play, and those I do I seldom redo enough to get every single achievements.
I, for one, thought it was very nice of CDPR to program so many intricate side quests around the main quest that was collecting Gwent cards in The Witcher 3. Sure, it could be distracting to have to deal with finding Ciri and stuff while you worked your way towards that coveted full deck, but it was a nice break from cards from time to time. 😜🤣
I think I played more Gwent than the actual game. But I'm also part of the minority that did not like Witcher 3 at all, so I stopped playing it after doing everything in the first area and hating every second of it
I hate morality systems. Don’t care I won’t be playing over it again later unless it’s a game that’s fun to do like Dark Souls. Dragon Age? Worst one. Don’t care for it. It ends up just being “look up every single multiple choice on the internet” type of thing.
For the Dishonored one I actually enjoy it. I go through a normal playthrough my own way, then the achievement adds extra replayablity. It's kinda like how Hitman rewards you for playing a certain way but you can get go guns blazing and get the same story, but come back later and try it a different way for extra rewards. The achievements I hate the most though are the collect 50000 of a hard to get item/flag/riddlertrophy. Because at first collectables are fun (ex Banjo Kazooie) but then at a certain point it just becomes excessive and tedious.
@@nunyobidniz In Champions Online there's a SERIES of achievements for getting KOed. 10 points for 50 KOs, then 10 for 100, 150. 25 points each for the 200th, 250th, and 300th times. 50 points each for getting KOed 350 and 400 times.... then 10 for 1000 and 2000??? not sure if there's a higher one, getting above 1000 on a single character is quite time consuming.
When you fully complete a game and get that sweet 100% completion, only for a new DLC to come out the next month and knock down your overall score. Then by the time you've completed that, another DLC comes out! I'm not made of money you know... And it's worse when the DLC is awful. That and making you play in a harder difficulty than you would want to. If you struggle with hard or medium why the hell would you want to go on insane/very hard/hard?
The harder settings one, ugh. Like, I play games for fun, to relieve stress. Not to become more stressed by overly difficult challenges in a game I like but am not a master at.
Games should do the Hollow Knight thing with their dlc. Completing the base game will give you 100%. Then completing the dlcs will bring your score over 100%
Pajama Gamer Spider-Man did this exact the problem wasn’t that the DLC was bad but that it was so long between DLC I couldn’t get interested I finally went back and did it but back when the third DLC released I was just not with it
When your eyes look to an achievement, or when it covers vital information and the resulting achievement kills you, or if you get a jump scare from an achievement in a horror game
"MIKE! MIKE! I GOT A FUN DRIVEY DRIVEY VROOM VROOM CHALLENGE FOR YOU!" Mike suddenly materializes "HI THERE ELLEN!" "AHH!" My favorite part of this video. XD
The only one of these that wasn't actual valid complaint was the very first one it does take you out of the moment a little bit when an achievement pops up in the middle of what's supposed to be an emotional moment the rest of these are either just nitpicks or things that can be easily fixed by not worrying about achievements on the first try
meh i certainly tried collecting all the tropies during my 1st play through of an AC game, but bc they are indeed not designed to be done first time they don't tell you how to get them until afterwards when you realise you ether got them by accident anyway or could have easily done so if they'd just said so.
Uggggghhghh Skyrim has an achievement you get for getting all the daedric artefacts. Which involves committing atrocities which made my dragonborn feel unheroic indeed. Not to mention having to murder a really cool spell-slinging companion
You... Play... A hero? In the game where two of the huge paths are thief and assassin, and you are expected to aid in fighting a war where no one is actually right or wrong, destroying many homes and causing much political unrest. As well as aiding the forsaken in a large escape, freeing murderous madmen upon the innocent people of the reach(The citizens should not pay for crimes of government and ancestor. ). So, if you are a hero, are you also doing none of those things and effectively missing about half the game?
Ellen is my favorite also... But that is not to say that Andy and Mike and Jane aren't good too! This channel has all good hosts. I like when they do cross overs with PlayStation Access. :-) But yes... Ellen has an infectiousness about her personality!!
Nothing like not getting several chievements in Dark Souls 3, like geting the estus upgraded to the max just for the achievement not unlocking, had to make a new save and give myself the upgrading materials via cheat engine just to get it.
@@TheRatedOniChannel Ouch, being dark souls that would be painful. Worst i had was in the Star trek movie tie in. Finished the game before i found out it was bugged. Couldn't be bothered replaying it
@@benkocsis414 God that sounds awful, but you know what's even worst? When there is absolutely no way to get an achievement; you may be thinking, wait, Oni, that is impossible... is not. Pillars of Eternity has an imposible achievement, you wanna know what it is? It is an achievent to those that backed them in kickstarter... yes, a freaking achievement that only those that backed originally can have! Those that bought the game, like myself, are completely screwed out of the 100%.
There's also an achievement for getting hat in tf2, where you have to get 1000 views on a replay directly uploaded from the game. However, tf2 can't actually track views anymore, as it's system is outdated. You can ONLY get it by cheating.
that moment when you realized that you just saved right after a point where you missed an achievement so you cant go back and redo it and you have to remember it for the next playthrough. and then you forget about it and save it again.
especially if it is that single moment for the "true ending" achivements that are the most obscure part of the game that almost everyone including the devs forget to do anyway.
The game outward gives you a 1 GS achievement at the beginning, with a 99 GS achievement being awarded for completing each storyline in the game, which takes three playthroughs. Absolutely maddening. Luckily I was able to nicely round out my gamerscore again with No Man's Sky.
@@00pugsly48If someone dies by any means after you render them unconscious, you will not get the achievement. Don't know if it also works that way in MD
The most infuriating achievement I ever did was Smash TV in Portal 2. I ended up having to do it twice because it's so easy to screw up. I hate achievements with hard tasks and easy mistakes.
Brilliant thing about PC, there's always a mod or save editor to help you pop those achievements. They're worthless, but it feels good when they suck to unlock (Starbound, I'm looking at you! 64 vague achievements which glitch out easily, like hell am I doing that the normal way!).
@@WolfyFancyLads I'm a PlayStation and PC fan, but for some reason I don't feel quietly smug, probably because I'm also an Xbox fan, and those xbox related things also apply to me.
Whenever I start playing a new game that has multiplayer achievements, my first thought is always, "Well, this is a game I'm never going to 100% I guess..." Though, considering I'm not a completionist by any stretch and I just play games for the fun of it (and, yes, I will stop playing a game if it stops being fun and not look back, thanks for asking) it doesn't bother me very much to have a bunch of games that I haven't gotten 100% on.
I literally have a category in my steam library for "Requires Multiplayer for 100% Achievements" which will never get filled in. Even worse if it's an older game with 0% chance of getting another player.
Double Dragon Neon does something similar to the Dirt example - when you start, it gives you a 1G achievement that tells you to "Finish what you started" and won't cough up the other 19 until you beat it
@@outsidextra FFX-2 required not only 2 play for story forks but you really needed a guide to find 100% of the story. It had a lot of tiny bits like finding out that a certain NPC likes pink flowers BEFORE beating them up.
I like the fact that when talking about having to check what the "right" dialogue choice is for your playthrough: 1. they choose mass effect, where the positions on the wheel are always the same 2. They choose a conversation with only 1 option
When there are so many that you get tired of playing games just scrolling through them. Really Civilization V? 286 achievements? You know I won't do that.
I have 256 of them at over 2000 hours logged, and the other 30 there is no chance of me completing because they are all very, very specific scenario based and on Deity difficulty.
I read the list of achievements for Observation. They were all secret for a reason and it completely spoiled the entire game and ruined everything. Don't read the achievements before or during your play through of the game. Definitely play it though. It's a great story and pretty unique overall.
@@Niedomysm Or what about the antithesis of this, when you want to peruse the achievements/trophy list to get a slight clue or hint at what's in store for you in terms of challenges... BUT EVERY SINGLE ONE IS A HIDDEN ACHIEVEMENT/TROPHY! The only example I have of this on-hand is 'Hyperdevotion Noire: Goddess Black Heart' for PS Vita, but man is it annoying.
This issue is so frustrating to me. I like to scan the achievement list for games because sometimes there are achievements that require a stupid amount of grinding and I'd rather spread it out over my actual playthrough than finish the game and then have to go back and do something tedious for hours, or a whole new playthrough where I just do one tiny thing different for an achievement. So, you have secret achievements that are ideal for hiding story spoilers but I can still see all the "arbitrary challenge" achievements. BUT THEN, you have some stupid developers making secret achievements for things that you might never ever think of doing in the game, making it necessary to go look up the secret achievements if I want to avoid annoying post-game stuff anyway, and rendering the whole exercise completely fucking pointless.
My thoughts go back to the "little rocket man" Gnome-toting achievement from Half Life 2. Somehow, back when acheivements first came out, my puny brain they were cheat unlocks and that something so stupid as carrying a lawn gnome across an entire world must lead to some awesome cheat codes. I stopped caring about achievements after that, and I haven't looked back once.
To be fair there were or are a lot of games that do have that. I remember in some of the call of duty games, collecting intelligence would let you start activating all sorts of interesting cheats or whatever, like bouncing frag grenades where you toss one and it practically fills the room with explosions.
Another reason I love the subnautica games, relatively easy platinum from mostly story related trophies and some side actions. Also amazing and challenging games, so completely worth playing and more than once.
I've never worried about collecting achievements. I'd be playing along and the notification about some achievement I just got would pop up, I'd think "that's nice" and go back to playing. As for the morality choice - I use the WWJD methodology. "What Would Jane Do?" Yes, my play throughs tend to be dark and destructive.
When you showed Mass Effect, I thought you would mention the achievements from Mass Effect 1 that require you to complete the large majority of the game's assignments with the same party member. This means that you cannot switch up your party throughout the game and experience some variety. And you have to play through the game this way three times to get all of them
they patched that out with the Extended cut DLC. they lowered the threshold to the point where you can reach it without multiplayer are having to own all three games
I actually have the exact opposite problem: my friends and I played so much multiplayer back in the day that it’s now literally impossible for me to get a “bad” ending, even if I completely skip all the side content.
I seem to remember that I wanted to Platinum RE5, since I naturally reached a high percentage. Turned out I was mostly if not only missing the VS Mode thingy achievements. Funfact: The VS Mode thingy wasn't released in Germany (at least back then) because it was deemed too gruel for people to enjoy. So there was no way for me to achieve them.
Darn achievements, ruining heartfelt moments and forcing us into the multiplayer! Or, well, forcing YOU GUYS into the multiplayer -- I cannot be arsed. Single player games 4 life here. XD I will admit that achievements are satisfying, but yeah, being roped into playing the the game a very specific way can be frustrating. At least I'm the kind of person who enjoys hunting down collectibles for THOSE achievements.
I didn't have a Playstation (or Xbox) until three years ago. I'd hear people complain that Nintendo didn't have achievement systems, and I didn't even know what achievements were. Now that I have a PS4, I really don't get the appeal. I agree with you, I love in game collectables, but trophies awarded for things that aren't really part of the game's story do nothing for me.
That infamous achievement for Lollipop Chainsaw kept me from ever moving the camera around to the main character's butt. I got through the whole game and managed not to get it, which didn't really ruin the game, but oh the curiosity that was left unfulfilled. As far as making you play a certain way goes, I think we all hate acheivements that restrict how we can play, but when it's stuff like "ghost" or "clean hands" I was probably going to go for that anyhow. I just leave evil achievos unfinished.
Whenever I play a game with morality/reputation system I usually go with that I want the first time and then I'll playthrough more times going with the extremes. (Although I do usually end up trying to get all the trophiess, but that's probably just because I have OCD)
Getting achievements and trophies is fun! Except when it isn't. Here are the times achievements and trophies ruined your gaming experience. 🎮
I made my comment 3 seconds before you. Ha!
@Aspiring Marauder I think they just read what they are told to read.... or else. And I love dishonored! I beat all 3 no kills no sighted!
@Aspiring Marauder never watched the channel huh
@@KiomonDuck con....congratulations?
@@PatrickLongblkwhtrbbt just let me have this I don't have many accomplishments in life!
It’s even worse when an Achievement pops up across the bottom of screen at just the right moment to cover a text block you need to read or a button prompt that makes you die because you didn’t press it.
Happened... Quite a lot... :/
That happens too often in Telltale games when you get an achievement for completing each chapter.
Yeah, that's a pain as most info is at the bottom of the screen. I changed the settings so that they appear at the top of screen now.
@@mnArqal93 hold on, where's that option?
@@RtistiqSkubie Go to Settings>Preferences>Notifications and select Default notification position, you should be able to move all your notifications including achievements to another part of the screen. I have the XB1 Elite, so don't know if this differs with each version.
In TF2, there’s an achievement you get by being healed by an enemy medic as a disguised spy, and whenever you get an achievement, it is announced in chat and a big trophy pops above your head, even if you are disguised, which blows your cover. It only happens once per account, but it’s still gonna be annoying for new players who just got a hang of acting and just got their cover blown by an achievement
Get healed, get achievement, turn around and get a crit ubersaw to the face.
That just seems like bad design
The ultimate troll
I healed a spy and this happened, and I just pretend it didn't happen. Spy thanked me and we went our separate ways.
And then a follow-up one for backstabbing that medic
One that bugs me to no end is the dreaded "Secret/Hidden" achievements that encourage you to simply keep playing to unlock them. I understand the story spoiler ones where developers want them to remain hidden, but some games I have played have almost every achievement hidden with their requirements being things like "jump on the bed 20 times".
A hint would be nice, which is why I like Playstation allowing me to see the hidden cheevos.
Yeah, hidden achievements really should be for things that a player would be more likely to experience but are spoilers.
At least PlayStation allows you the option to see the hidden trophy in case you don’t want to just play blind
@@ridjenite godbless PS for helping us unlock those hidden trophies.
Little nightmares moment
Getting jumpscared by an achievement on a horror game
Bahaha that’s happened to me before.... on outlast when the big naked dude with his wang out is threatening you from the other side of the door, then outta nowhere “BLING!!” Lol smfh
Right! Make you damn jump, then immediately ruin the experience.
Omg... lol that happens alot I bet
Getting jumped scared by achievement when your really into the game and don't know what achievement or what you did.
Ellen can relate, just look at the resident evil fear academy.
A frequent one on Playstation is when it captures the screenshot of the moment you got the trophy, but after the screen has already gone black from the cutscene back into the game. I think half of my Arkham trophies have black screenshots attached to them. 😂
Even worse is amidst frantic action sequences, the amount of blurry messes I've had over the years is shocking
I erase all the screenshots.
Yeah it sucks ass >.
So true lol, I swear pretty much half my screenshots from games are just blank screens with achievements in the corner of them. Take the screenshot at the right time Playstation, god!
I have so many cool photos on Playstation that got ruined by the trophy icon.
I didn't realize there were so many others who hated the multiplayer achievements as much as I do. I feel I am among friends!
I wouldn't mind as much if they separated them from the platinum like they do for DLC trophies.
@@VNCstudios yeah, them being an optional is a must. especially if the online servers won't last
If you were among friends you would be able to get multiplayer achievements. You can't get those achievements because you have no friends.
@@Jeremy-ql1or among us
@@Jeremy-ql1or
False. Not every friend has to like the exact same types of video games, or even games in general.
Most of my friends don't like horror movies or games like I do, and the few that do don't always play on the same system as I do. Therefore, multiplayer achievements can still be out of reach, even among friends.
"1. Popping up at the wrong moment."
Video is interrupted by a TH-cam ad.
Lol that had to be intentional.
adblock on PC, TH-cam Vanced on Android. Problem solved.
You've got the achievement: I want to buy premium
@donaithan *pure satisfaction*
A bit out of place but didn't anyone else think of Zuko from Avatar: The Last Airbender when you saw the game title "Dishonored"?
Multiplayer trophies can jump off a cliff and so can difficulty trophies that don't unlock when a higher difficulty is completed. Otherwise I more than willing to jump through hoops to collect all the trophies on games that I enjoyed playing.
Oh and those trophies that don't unlock if you skip the credits? They can jump off a cliff too.
I don't mind multiplayer trophies as long as it's something like "kill 10 people with..." but trophies related to competitive/ranked modes or leaderboards can go commit toaster bath
Fus Ro Doh those trophies out of the top of a cliff!
Ah just go do something else while the credits role
I think watching the credits is important on it's own... ;-;
There's ones that you dint get if you skip the credits? Holy hell
Not one human alive goes through and looks at and reads those things
When there is a cutsene with subtitles, but the achievement blocks the subtitles
@PercyXOXO
Worse are games with loud background sound and you can't hardly hear what they are talking about.
Example. Those damn explosives or bombing runs.
As a person with crippling anxiety, multiplayer trophies can rot in a pit.
as someone with crippling anxiety myself, i feel you. i always paid my friend a pizza, if he would get the multiplayer trophies for me, so i can get that platinum. fuck multiplayer trophies
What's worse is when it's a local multi player game, so you can't even play with others online when you have no one to play it in the same room as you.
Any and all Console/Steam achievements that stay on your profile requiring servers to stay up can rot in a pit. Servers go down before you Platinum it? Game can no longer be platinum'd under any circumstance, eat shit, slacker! Screw this and screw the devs who are fucked enough in the head to do this.
I'll one-up you. One word: MAG. It was a game on PS3 that my roommate (at the time) got. He talked me into trying it on my PS3. Turns out, it's MULTIPLAYER ONLY. About a month after I ignorantly unlocked it on my profile, the servers got shut down. Yay, game that can never be played again!
@@MysticMae21 Good thing that I have siblings who share my love for video games. (Actually, I think that the reason that I love video games is BECAUSE of my older brothers.)
I used to hate the achievements linked to online play, I'm sitting at home playing this game alone because I specifically don't want to interact with people!
Or when your Finally willing to do multi for a bit to get those achievements, and you learn it's a local only multiplayer.
@@MysticMae21 Or that either the servers are a real crap fest which aren't really working properly... or that they have been shut down just a few years after release and now are unobtainable forever.
In any way, online multiplayer achievements gotta stop. The absolute worst are DLC achievements though, after having worked so hard to 100% a game.
...which is why I never pursue them. You don't need them all. You DEFINITELY don't need any that aren't fun to get.
I also used to hate those cheeves. I still do, but I used to too.
@@theunwelcome I think the phrase you're looking for is "I've always hated those"
Hope that helped you out, I don't mean to come off as rude. :)
I love how in Double Dragon Neon getting the achievement for beating the game is synced with the lyrics of the credits song. So when it gets to "Here is a medal for your victory" the achievement pops up. That was realy cool when I saw that :D
That “4” achievement is actually the funniest thing ive seen in a while
I laughed out loud at that one.
I want to see a game that gives you a 1g achievement for pressing the start button and a 99g achievement for getting the True Ending.
Diabolical XD
@@ErzengelDesLichtes Overcooked kinda
EL Mephistopheles
I just had an even more diabolical idea. 1g for pressing start, 92g for beating the game, 97 g for getting the true ending.
What’s worse then multiplayer achievements? Three letters: RNG. Ex: Yakuza 0 where you need to win 3 consecutive bets at the cat fight arena.
And you need to do it to get the "get all achievements" achievement. You also have to get 100% on the completion list which involves a lot of rng challenges
Depends on the game, the real horror of multiplayer achievements is knowing that the lack of anyone playing or worse, closed servers, makes them completely impossible to ever receive, locking away a full achievement completion forever. Though some of those rng based things really do also feel that way as well (stupid dq11 casino accolades.)
Ah yes. All hail RNGsus
Cries in MHW gold crowns
For me, both multiplayer and RNG trophies can go burn in the Sun...
Achievements that involve replaying a level over and over again to get something specific and entirely dependent on the RNG gods to happen.
I played a gacha/turn based game and one of the achievement is a certain luck level.. Basically like 2 stars summon gives 20 luck.. 3 stars 30 etc etc... Thing is.. This needed like a LOT of rare ones and im like 50 short of my highest luck.. Which is like 2 rare 1 super rare and 1 ultra rare... Which means i wont get it unless RNG is super generous for me
The best timed achievement ever was 'The part where he kills you' in Portal 2. The comedic timing is so satisfying.
So true, I think that I laughed at that one when I first played through the game and got that achievement. Right after, I got the Pit Boss achievement because I found the description "Show that pit who's boss" to be absolutely hilarious, and to show everyone that I showed that pit who's boss as well.
It was in Portal 1 too, right?
@@UnPokemon Um, I don't think so.
@@elisabethheiman2104 Even at the part when Glados is about to throw you into a lava pit?
@@UnPokemon After searching online, I couldn't find any similar achievements in Portal or Portal: Still Alive (the Xbox exclusive version).
When achievements are tied to dead external services. It's now impossible to get the achievement for using a custom mask in Army of Two: 40th Day because the site where you create it is unavailable since Devil's Cartel launch
Same case with the Skate Editor (or whatever it was called) in Skate 2 & 3, thus eliminating any method of obtaining that one achievement/trophy.
Past me will never not be happy about getting that one.
There's a very simple achievement for Saint's Row 3 "Jumped in- create and share a character online" that is no longer possible to achieve as the server no longer exists. (The same achievement is called "Saintifed" in SR4 and is unavailable for the same reason :(
I still own a ps3 and a lot of multiplayer achievments are there mocking me.
Team Fortress 2 has a similar situation, since their TH-cam integration has been broken for ages
@@shalekendar6759 im glad I got those two when I first got the games
In defense of Dishonored, playing the game without killing everyone in full stealth is much harder so it makes sense to reward you for this way and not for the easier ways to play
In offense of Dishonored, low chaos is the less fun way to play the game.
@@stevenclark5173 I disagree low chaos Is very fun winning a battle while using basically just sleep darts and blink is very fun, full ghost tho.....
Exactly. The intended way to play is to enjoy the story the first time through playing how you want and then if you want the extra challenge of clean hands or ghost then you are rewarded for it. The only complaint against that is from people who play games purely for achievements, in which case, I’m sorry for you.
Nice thing I only had to play it once.
@@homegrownwookie7589 there's a saying that "gamers will optimize the fun out of anything". for some people seeing the achievement makes people feel obligated to get the achievement on their first playthrough, even if that's not the best way to play.
I feel that whole hating multiplayer thing in my soul. There are soooooo many games that I can't get platinum in because of multiplayer trophies. 😞 I'm just not interested in playing multiplayer at all unless it's with family. I really miss when almost EVERY game was story driven and not 'let's see who can survive out of these random people we've put in a room'. Single player campaigns should be the focus again.
The developers of those games should patch the game when servers shut down just giving you all multiplayer trophies when you obtain all the others.
@@WarpPal yeah I 100% a lot of games now can't do the same on pc as because servers and because cross save I was level 1 getting killed by level 25 (max level) and couldn't do it same for dlc that gets unlisted
When you have all the achievements and it gets ruined by a DLC.
Yes oh my god when the DLC achievements are there even if you don't own the DLC. No Skyrim I can't adopt a child because you won't let me without making me pay another ten dollars.
I remember getting the FF15 platinum and I had less than 50% completion because of the DLC trophies
Oh my god absolutely! , I hate how Playstation includes the DLC Trophies when you dont own the DLC. Does Xbox do this as well?
That happened to me twice over the lifecycle of the original Halo:Reach. Combined with the problems described in #3 (superspecific multiplayer tasks on specific maps, that you'll only get the chance to play if everyone else in your lobby also owns the DLC, and even then you gotta be lucky) and I gave up trying to complete my achievements for it for a third time
@@patrickbrennan7438 yep
In "Star Wars: The Old Republic" to collect all the datacrons, you literally have to consult a forum or even the official website in order to see what ridiculous acrobatics you have perform to find this datacron. (Precious few are just left out in the open). But at least you get a stats boost out of it and not just the cheevo.
I actually quit SW:TOR because of that. I can accept Achievements that are essentially impossible (looking at you The Elder Scrolls Online and the "Emperor!" achievement in PVP-number one on the leaderboards though it looks like it was tweaked in 2020 to now be within your faction and not "the highest ranked out of _all_ factions in PvP") and dismiss them, but something like that in SW:TOR? God it's like a much much much more irritating version of Dragon Age: Inquisition's crystal shards (which were annoying and you didn't even get a really cool reward if you were grinding around looking for shards all the time >.>)
Yeah I think I spent almost two months getting almost all of the datacrons. I Never got the fleets ones and most of the expansions either. I managed the rishi and makeb but that was it. They were such a pain to get to or need multiple people to get them.
A friend and I had great fun trying to collect them and found it quite challanging to figure out how to get to some of them, nevermind actually getting to some of the places. Though we were never that hardcore about it, we just tried to get the ones we came across and while we could spend more time on some of them that I'd care to admit, we wouldn't let it go so far that it was ruining the game for us.
@@lavrentivs9891 I think you make a good point: if you have a Buddy (or a guild) then these things become a lot less... teeth grindingly infuriating. There are parts ESO I know I shouldn't play solo because it's worse than any Fromsoft boss in terms of smashing my face into an unyielding brick wall.
I got flashbacks of my boyfriend asking me to Google something every 5 minutes when I read that
11:28 No Ellen you bought a Virtual Card Game with Monster Hunting as a side activity.
Sounds like an idea for a new Yugioh arc.
Yes, this is the true game. The monsters are extra
so we can summon Mike by saying "drivey drivey vroom vroom challenge"?
Fully expect “drivey drivey vroom vroom specialist” to be in his twitter bio within the hour lol
The legend says that if you scream "drivey drivey vroom vroom challenge" in your bathroom three times at midnight, your father will appear and ask what kind of drugs you are using.
"Drivey drivey vroom vroom" is now a permanent part of my lexicon. 😂👍
Thanks Ellen!
Let's try. "Drivey drivey vroom vroom challenge!"
Oh, hello. Nice to meet you, Mike. Big fan.
Umm, how to get you back to the UK? Maybe you can call Ellen and get her to say it again?
@@nickdejager8873 I was just thinking that Mike must save a lot on airfare with that.
"Achievements that give you a gamerscore that's not a multiple of 5"
Now I have the urge to become a game dev, just so I can make sure every achievement has a different, prime, gamerscore.
I was looking for this comment. I am not dissapointed.
@@roadtrain_ 👉😎👉
I want to make a game with a bunch of 1g achievements so you can even out your gamerscore, and a different game that gives you 7g for starting the game and 43g for finishing it.
Thankfully we have achievement websites so I’d know to avoid your games. As I did with no man’s sky
You monster.
Most cases of "Screw it, we're giving spoilers" achievements. Most developers are generally good about making these hidden achievements, but every so often, you get one that forgets and looking at the achievement list in-game spoils big plot points. The only ones I forgive for this are Mega Man 9 and Mega Man 10... look, if you haven't figured out BY NOW that it's all Dr. Wily's fault, and seeing "Whomp Wily!" as the name of the "beat the game" achievement in both games, I don't know what to tell you.
then again some games will mark majority of the achievements as "spoiler" "hidden" and when that achievement is not story related, but requires specific actions/choices throughout the playthrough, it can be frustrating to only be missing one achievement in the game after maybe playing it multiple times trying to get everything, to then have to look up what the achievement wants. this is without talking about the achievements that even with reading their descriptions it might still be a moon logic test to figure it out.
on PlayStation the console does allow you to after a prompt look at the "spoiler" trophies this at least helps with the former.
There's also the hilariously comical spoiler achievements like Portal and "The Part Where He Kills You"
Description: This is that part
I hate hidden trophies that really.. really shouldn't be hidden. Like there's one for killing 5 people with one barrage in the story mode of battlefront 2. Why is this a hidden trophy? It's not like the Easter egg trophies in the Remastered versions of modern warfare's 1 and 2 where they're hidden because they're little nods to the previous games and you'd only really attempt them if you had played them before (I got the trophy for shooting Shepard at the beginning of MW2 without realizing it was actually a trophy).
@@kaitlyngarner740 I hate those too. It's either plot based (which is fine, no spoilers that way) or something really obscure like "Tapdance on your mother's grave, while in a frock, singing God Save The Queen, at 10pm at night, smoking a cigar and have six people watch".
@@kaitlyngarner740 One that really bothered was Distance, there's 2 hidden achievements that are so specific that not even a detailed description would help.
The first one: The Other Side. Description: skuttling, skuttling, skuttling... What you have to do: find a crab in every level of the Lost to the Echoes campaign, almost all of them are hidden in places you would never even think of looking it up, to unlock a secret campaign called The Other Side, completing this campaign awards the achievement, which is easier said than done because the campaign is Dark Souls on wheels.
The second: Worthy. Description: Earn the approval of the Elders. What you have to do: finish the The Other Side campaign again, but this time you have to take a secret route in every section of the campaign, where every single one either has a time to be completed that leaves no room for error (but you can try as many times as you want) or require you to go really far from the track to press a button to open a hidden door (which can be missed and you have to reset the level to try again).
Ah I never considered stuff like this before. For the shadow of the colossus one they could have easily left the achievement to pop up when you wake up back at the temple and the statue blows up.
Or on the loading screen. I remember getting the first achievement and bursting with laughter at how tone-shattering it was.
@@kirbyfanprime *angelic mournful choir*
*ping, whoooosh*
@@EverTheFractal 💚 _that username though_
@@nunyobidniz Thanks a bunch! It's autobiographical
When they said "not getting the easy achievement when you beat the game on hard", I instantly thought Lost Planet 2. I had to go back and beat the game on EVERY difficulty. I realized i haven't gotten the achievement for Easy even after i beat the game on Extreme
"Glorified Roomba" is essentially the definition of any completionist. Thank you Ellen for that gem
@Smoke 003723 No, Roombas are Galoombas in disguise, you can tell if you look closely.
How about every time you did something that you were certain there should be an achievement for, but no, no achievement for you.
I will still collect one copy of every in-game armour and weapon, have barrels full of every crafting material just in case, lockpick every door/chest and clear every corner of the map. It is a lot of time and work. You owe me something game!
Just look at the achievements. Save yourself some time.
*EDIT:* Hidden trophies and achievements can hide story based ones. Though it is a risk and reward thing depending on how you feel about spoilers if they don't.
Same!
Also, I totally read that last line in Lukes voice, hah!
@@AlmightyPolarBear Hidden Trophies/Acheivements exist. So, you not only need to look at the list, you have to search online to find a complete list, and more often than not, it spoils the game a bit.
Richard you can unhide them you know Well at least on ps4 you can
@@AlmightyPolarBear Oh, hidden achievements that aren't hidden for spoiler reasons. THAT should have been on the list.
Dark Souls 2 has achievements for collecting all of each type of spell. Some of those spells are unique rewards for ranking up PvP covenants, and are next to impossible 6 years later when most people still playing, aren’t doing multiplayer. The game gives you an alternative that’s almost as annoying, buy them from an npc in NG+2, behind a locked door that requires you play 2/3rds of the playthrough to unlock.
So... you gotta beat the gaem twice? Eff that
@@lonewanderer1328 Ehh dark souls games are notoriously easy to repeat run. Your first playthrough might take you 40-70 hours based on your skill level, but if you REALLY wanted to run through a second time on the same character as fast as possible, casual ng+ runs can easily be 1-2 hours. Hell, casual new game playthroughs of ds1 can be sub 2 hour if you know what you are doing. DS2 had the unique pleasure/problem that to get things like, the ring of thorns+2, you had to invade and kill another player 1000 times. That alone can take you the better part of a year, and thats IF the servers are working (which they arent at the moment) and IF you actually win regularly.
Sdogofdoom i beat dark souls 3 times w/one character once. Back on the 360. Shit was cash. I played og ds2 special edition, the preorder version, and I didn’t like it lol
Too bad I can’t do multiplayer
ds3 has one of the worst platinums. You have to farm for HOURS just to be able to get all miracles, spells, rings and pyromancies. Collectively, it took 15-20 hours to farm.
Honestly just the fact that achievement lists exist kind of ruin the experience of playing the game for the sake of playing the game. Before starting a new game I always quickly run through the list just to gauge what I should be doing before/during/after doing what I'm gonna be doing. Having a list of achievements activates my two worst qualities: being a perfectionist, and being lazy; if there's a way to over-achieve with minimal effort I can't not do it
I think you being lazy is just a side effect of being a perfectionist. Because you won't start it if you're not sure you can execute it well and use up your time imo
You aren't lazy, I don't look/try for achievements at all
Oh I hear ya but I usually play the game first for fun then circle back a second time with an achievement focus
I have done this far to many times myself XD
I wouldnt read the list first because of spoilers. the last thing I need to do is read there is say, an achievement for killing "jack" titled "Death to Traitors"then starting up the game only to see my sidekick is named jack. Great, thanks, now I know he will turn on me eventually and I will have to kill him (or at least its an option) Now I wont be surprised when the big twist happens.
Getting a bloody bronze PS trophy for something that is extremely tough, extremely grindy or playing through the game a second time in the hard mode. Always pisses me off.
JRPG are the worst for this. You completed the game on hard. Bronze.
The ones I hate are best the game on hardest. Gameplay is hardly different from hard but you can only save at a bed. Like I'm an adult who cant just play until the next bed to save my game. I sometimes gotta drop my game to take care of things and not come back for a few days
You have anger issues
@Ik Ben Dom You can't just say that someone has anger issues because they hate an aspect of something. You have some serious social issues ngl
@@yaniz_kitchen if you do things in games that you don't like and piss you off, you ain't right in the head
Just wanna say, one thing I love about this channel is that you give proper spoiler warnings beforehand where necessary. There's far too many list videos that just jump straight in, or just give a generic "Hey there's spoilers in this video!" without giving specifics, and I'm just like "I haven't played every game or watched every film, dammit!" So I really appreciate that little detail :3
The only reason I don't have a Platinum in AC: Black Flag is because of the GOSH DARN MULTIPLAYER TROPHIES
Thanks for bringing this up OXtra, I'll send you my therapy bill.
The only trophy missing in AC 2 for me are those feathers... Those damn feathers...
Ditto for me
Likewise for me in L4D2. Complete all campaigns on Expert Realism, kill a million infected, get through a campaign with zero friendly fire incidents, hold out at the downed airliner without taking any damage and get through a finale without taking damage? Easy. Carry an opposing player through five rows of chairs at the wedding in the park in versus mode? Not happening.
I gave up after Brotherhood, got every single achievement except for the obnoxious one where you had to execute *every* possible move/kill/evasion in a single match. Even playing in a lobby of all friends, its near impossible to pull off unless everyone is doing a very specific thing.
Tldr; missed every achievement achievement because of near impossible to get multiplayer achievement.
Same, basically if you didn't play it in the first year or so that it came out, it's more or less impossible to 100% that game
When an achievement requires you to use something other than the game itself and is no way linked to the game. Fable for an example needing xbox smart glass for 360, which no longer exists.
Or dlc
@@alumlovescake Yep Fable 2 - You unlock all the demon doors, but "Due to a bug" (whatever!) the achievement does not pop until you have the DLC.
@@blue_ranger There's DLC for Fable 2?
@@DraconicDuelist Knothole Island and See the future
Or as in Fable 3, during my second playthrough, the first part in the last mission, the prison, was bugged while entering through the sewer.
Not only I can't play the quest anymore, the whole save point was broken, reloading the game would always let fall through the floor... :/
This leads to another very unique thing only to the Fable series; you can't create a backup save data, like one on hard drive, the other one in the Cloud...
In Dishonored's defense, the achievement "Mostly Flesh and Steel" does actually give you an idea for a different way to play the game. Not an especially _fun_ way to play, but at least it makes you change up your playstyle.
I've never had an issue with achievements that ask for a different play style. I don't generally hunt for achievements unless I already like the game, which in that case I'm inclined to play it multiple times, with different play styles.
@@drakenn342 exactly! If I'm on the hunt for trophies, I'm already invested and like the game, so if I need to play the game over again for a plat, I'm probably not too fussed. The Dishonored plat is one of my proudest game accomplishments simply *because* I love the game; I think people are trophy hunting the wrong way if they're upset by certain asks of trophies. Don't hunt if you don't like the game enough.
Ox: "Something we don't like about video games is.."
Everyone: "Assassins' Creed feather!"
It's actually a bit impressive that they have created something that is nearly universally hated, but we all still love the game and collected all of the feathers.
The riddler. That's the only one i can think that can live up to the feathers
I swear I'm the only one in the world who likes collecting the feathers in AC
@matt lol I just find it relaxing. The "reward" for 100 feathers is dumb though, zero argument
Just imagine someone saying they want you to find 100 feathers in any context besides an arts and crafts store sounds like a damn nightmare
@@kwynn1016 Not the Korok seeds in Zelda? - Then again no achievement tied to that given the switch doesn't have an achievement system.
I got another example for you guys, one word: GRINDING!
Imagine having to kill the same enemy over and over again, until it randomly decides to give you that 1% drop rate item you need to upgrade/forge all weapons
Some examples: Tropezahedron on FF XIII (And you needed 6!!), Best weapons for Donald and Goofy on the First KH, Exotic weapons on Destiny
Well, grinding isn't that bad if you have something else playing in the background. Still tedious, but not as much as only focusing on doing the same thing over and over again.
There's also Terraria and its megaboner for low percentage drops. Looking at you, Rod of Discord and The Axe.
As much as I love achievements, you just brought up the specific instance that killed my love for an entire genre of gaming and the mechanics behind them. I can't even go back and play the older FFs anymore, and I still have a ton of love for those. Between the initial burnout on grinding growing up, plus doing it for literal hours for an FF13's "own every weapon in the game" crap, I sense levelling mechanisms and I just nope the hell out. And it's infecting everything right now, so my niches of Assassin's Creed and Arkham aren't even safe from this crap.
Yeah, it's really annoying how achievements psychologically pull people into playing games for 4x as long without getting any more joy out of them.
@@eiyukabe Generalization there to just assume no one gets anything out of going for achievements. Of course it depends on the achievement itself.
Achievements based only on tedium I can understand, like the first Gears of War where you had to kill 10 thousand people in online matches, but giving people challenges to get more out of their games can provide entertainment, push them to get better at them, or play in unusual ways they normally wouldn't.
I push myself to go for the achievements I'm sure I can get with some practice, and skip the ones that I know I can't or don't want to sink dozens of hours into. If I can get 100%, then great. If I don't I don't. As long as I'm still having fun I'll go for it.
At some point you have to question whether focusing on achievements is valuable. Many games require me to play multiplayer for certain achievements, or to do something difficult that I do not think is fun. The simplest answer is to ignore those achievements, and regard any achievements I don't want to get as optional - which, indeed, they are.
Of course, I frequently get grief from other players when I look at something that could be done and say "but I don't want to," as I go to do something else. Even in games as open-ended as Minecraft, I cannot count the number of people on multiplayer servers who stand in my base staring at various ores in the walls or floor, then eventually screw up the courage to ask why I haven't mined them "yet."
It often takes a surprising amount of convincing before they accept that no, I don't care about that ore and yes, they can have it. The idea that I simply DON'T WANT very much redstone or lapis confuses them, and they often make helpful suggestions of what I could do with it. Similarly, I get all kinds of advice on how I could get the last couple achievements on various games, and it confuses people when I literally don't want them because I don't care.
Yeah. That's what I hate about achievements; some people think you're a noob when you don't have a lot of them. I play a lot of sims 4, for example, but I only have 5 achievements. Like, why does my sim have to listen to all radio stations and watch all tv channels when I can do things I find entertaining?
Games are supposed to be fun. If you aren't having fun with a certain aspect, why engage? Especially in Minecraft where there are so many achievements that require you to do things you'd never normally do.
Nintendo: *See's title*
Nintendo: "Can't ruin the game if there are no achievements"
They secretly slip them into some games. But it's the game that does it so I guess we can't blame Ninetndo.
Ssbu kind of has an achievement system. Problem is, I have NAT problems, so I can't get the multiplayer ones
they'll find a way
I mean, not having achievements/trophies kinda ruins the game a bit in their own way.
The korok seeds from BOTW, anyone..?
games in the 90's: congratulations on beating the game! Now try a harder difficulty
games now: congratulations on beating the game! Now try an easier difficulty for that achievement
I know this pain perfectly.
I want to max HOARD achievements on Steam, but sadly NO ONE plays multiplayer anymore.
Multiplayer achievements are a cancer.
I am a huge stealth lover, especially in Dishonored and I've done the clean hands and never detected shit, but a huge annyance about having to do it for the achievement, was that not only rats you've summoned count as a kill from you and fails the achievement, but when an enemy dies at any other point, even if not by your hand, that also fails clean hands. The very first mission after the prologue has the biggest problem with this. It took me ages to work out why it was always claiming one person died in the summary. It's because there's an Overseer who gets mercy-killed due to being infected with the plague, and even though you're not the one to shoot him, it's his friends that do, it still counts as a death.
To get around this, you have to interrupt their conversation about killing him before they can do it. If you just throw glass or a dart, it alerts them and they stop their dialogue then just walk away once their alert meter has gone back down.
If anything that makes that situation kinda funny. "Well I was going to kill you but the crash of that bottle really put my senses back in place"
That sounds annoying, but it also makes sense that the game just detects someone died and assumes you did it.
Oh. My. God. I played through that level multiple times just making sure I wasnt killing anyone. I just gave up.
@@licktherock I aborted my first clean hands attempt because of it. Really annoying.
@@kyuubinaruto17 It happens even if they die without you around, that's the annoying part. It's a scripted event you can completely miss.
If there's a achievement that requires to play a game over again, at least let it be a game where I can make choices that can change the game in some way! Or at least a short game.
@@slevinchannel7589 what?
is this spme sort of bot/automated spam comment?
Trying to get the "Not Even One" achievement in Vampyr. It makes the combat (which is middling) annoyingly hard and means you miss the best content in the game, seeing how killing different characters effects the others and the rest of their district. It's like a challenge to completely miss the best mechanics and writing, and tons of people hated that game because they tried to play it like that.
I guess it's something best left for that second or third playthrough, when you know how to play the game and want a challange.
The next assassins creed game needs to have a two second side quest where some rando asks you to collect 10000 doodads and your character laughs in their face
Just like that bit in Farcry 5 when you climb the first radio tower and Dutch informs Rook to not worry about doing that all over the county.
To be fair if it gave you the option to still do it anyway I'd probably end up doing it...
Imagine if that was the case in AC2. Petruccio asks you “Ezio, get me 100 feathers” then Ezio just slaps him in the face and walks away lol.
@@tempestshadow5152 I dislike everything about this comment
Borderlands 2 had a sidequest like this.
The Stanley Parable, it has an achievement that is impossible to get. And i'm not talking about the "Dont play the Stanley Parable for 5 years achievement". No i mean "The Impossible achievement" that is literally impossible to get
Great game and great middle finger to this stupid trend of achievements.
Then why does Steam show that 4.9% of players have gotten the "Unachievable" achievement? I know they edited a config file to get it, but it still shows that it is possible, albeit not by conventional means.
@@RyanSmith-sm9lj actually it's not even by editing the config file it's literally just a hidden keybinding in the game that you just bind to any button using the console or the startup options
I just started the game, played for 20 minutes and had to go so I closed it and realized I have it. How it's awarded apparently has changed a few times with the updates and I've read it's based on pseudo random numbers having 8's in specific digits.
As someone mentioned, about 5% of players have that one.
Take a look at The Stanley Parable Demonstration, which has one achievement that it gives you while you play it, but takes away as soon as you shut it down.
The "not enough resources" thing. The Legend of Spyro: A New Beginning did the same thing. You can upgrade all 4 elemental breaths to a good enough point to fight Cynder at the end of the game, but to max them all out you need to play through it twice at least, and that's IF you know where all the crystals are. If you don't know many of the spots it could take a third playthrough. At the very least, it's an easy and relatively short game.
Oh, I loved the way Ellen talked about Multiplayer Trophies/Achievements. That really is the only way to talk about those horrid things. Seriously, the only reason I haven't Platinumed a handful of games is because of multiplayer trophies... though I haven't Platinumed the rest generally because I don't have the time, patience with RNG, or skill to pull them all off, haha.
I also wholeheartedly agree about achievements that force you to play a certain way. In general, my idea of stealth is "if no one lives to tell about it, it counts as stealth."
I'm okay with having to replay a game for a trophy if it's a game I like, and it's because I'm trying to see the results of branching story content... but even then, no more than two playthroughs, please. But the rest of those reasons you mentioned, like the way The Last of Us games do it, are really dick moves.
I'm of a split mind for collectibles. I'm generally okay with them as long as they're not missable, not too many of them, and there's some kind of quality of life aspect to help pinpoint their locations so you don't spend endless hours finding the last few. So, InFamous = good; The Last of Us = bad.
At least with awkward trophies, you can always use the "completionist" excuse that you wanted to do as much as you could. :)
Okay, so this ended being a rambly commentary on the video. Woops.
Ngl the only thing stopping me from getting platinum in far cry 4 is that achievment where you have to play everything on the multiplayer
My self-imposed rule on achievements is I'll go completionist on them if it seems attainable for me. Something like Gears of War's "Seriously" achievement where you have to kill like 10 thousand people gets a big nope from me.
Achievements for playing one specific way are fine, because there's usually a branching path where you can get to see all the content and it's easiest to just stick with one way to see both sides. Like Infamous. It doesn't pay to be neutral, because each set of powers is distinctly linked to your moral alignment, as well as the drawn cutscenes, so playing fully good and fully bad allows you to get everything out of game.
@@kyuubinaruto17 For sure. I largely agree with a game like InFamous. I loved playing the two roles of the games.
And I'm with you 100% on certain achievements... if they're going to take too much time or cause too much grief (usually like playing on the hardest difficulty), I don't want to go through that. I'd rather have fun with another game than replay most games on harder difficulties. Same reason I avoid Soulsborne games... sure, I could probably beat them eventually, but I'd rather have fun with something else.
@@AzureKnight2 Well, I'd say it depends on the game when it comes to difficulty. If you enjoy the game then I don't see why not make it harder.
Even before achievements playing things on a harder difficulty was always about proving to yourself you could, unless it's one of those games where you can only see the true ending on the hardest level. For most games it only locks you out of things if you're on the lowest difficulty.
Which can be bull anyway because of region difficultys. Streets of Rage 3 locked you out of moving past level 5 out of 7 if you played the easiest difficulty, but the American normal was the Japanese hard, and so if you played on easy you're playing the Japanese normal.
"to any playstation or pc fans feel free to sit back and be quietly smug
oh you are already "
GOLD !
Do I love Dishonored with my whole heart? Yes, absolutely. Do I still have nightmares about my ghost/shadow/clean hands play through? Also yes!
That moment playing a game which has an npc speaking in another language with subtitles and an achievement pops up over the subtitles causing you to miss an essential detail or two for the rest of the game.
When a glitch makes an achievement unreachable.
Thought they were going through this with Banjo Kazooie showing. Has the achievement for collecting all notes, but also has a puzzle minigame with the painting in your home. The paintings showed moving clips of Banjo going through a level. One of them had Banjo collecting notes in the clip and if you saw that the game counted them as collected somehow and didn't show them for you on the map anymore either, but they didn't add to your total count. Result: When you collected every single note in the game you found out you were missing about 5 of them and have no way of obtaining them, thus making you start all over again. They finally patched it after a while, but man that sucked when it happened to me.
I still dont have that skyrim plat bc of this
Cough cough lego
Lord of the rings
* *silent and angry nose breathing* *
I feel this with Dragon Age, mainly Origins the kill so many Darkspawn achievements, done them multiple times, still don't have them.........
back on the 360, I was playing offline for a couple months and ended up having to replace my xbox for some reason. i eventually got back online. the issue was i had been playing "Wet" while offline. I went online after having completed the game a couple times. So going through my achievement history i have the achievements for completing the game on 'golden bullet difficulty', but not for completing the first chapter. i have also collected all of the collectibles.... but not 50% of them. fun game though.
On the other hand, i'd've hated it much more if they had remembered all the "completed this bit" info and awarded dozens of achievements all within the same MILLISECOND... xD
I’d add general burnout from game completion. Even favorite games you eventually will want to put down, but excessive or extensive achievements just take the fun away, making you feel unsatisfied in the end.
I'm glad you mentioned multiplayer achievements. When I start a new game and I see those on the list, I'm instantly done trying to 100%.
I have no interest in doing co-op with most people. Especially those who want to troll or ninja loot all the good schist.
My problem is that I'm a collector by nature and achievments make me paranoid about not getting them all and thus I play the game in a frustrating perfectionist way
I used to be that way. Dumped a bunch of time in games I don't particularly care for. Now I'm at the point where if I like the game, I'll go for as many trophies as possible. If I don't enjoy, just get to the end and be done.
@@drakenn342 This is the way. Games are entertainment. You shouldn't force yourself to do something that's just there to steal your time without giving anything back. I collected all achievements in The Swapper. But my incentive was something entirely different. There were computers you can find and those have some extra story snippets that enhanced the overall story. So my incentive was to find them.
And always remember to disable the steam overlay to hide the achievement popups (or the equivalent on consoles), so you don't break your immersion unnecessarily.
@@drakenn342You just summarized why I seldom hunt or achievements. If I'm going to spend enough time to get them all, it better be fun. So far I have all the achievements for the Fatal Frame Remakes . . . and no other game. I don't finish most games I play, and those I do I seldom redo enough to get every single achievements.
I, for one, thought it was very nice of CDPR to program so many intricate side quests around the main quest that was collecting Gwent cards in The Witcher 3. Sure, it could be distracting to have to deal with finding Ciri and stuff while you worked your way towards that coveted full deck, but it was a nice break from cards from time to time. 😜🤣
I never played a session on The Witcher without at least a couple of rounds of Gwent...
It did help that Gwent is a fun minigame as well
I think I played more Gwent than the actual game. But I'm also part of the minority that did not like Witcher 3 at all, so I stopped playing it after doing everything in the first area and hating every second of it
If im being honest i love gwent in the witcher 3 probably one of my favorite things to do in it still dont have the all the cards sadly lol
I do 'Morality' playthroughs later, first playthroughs are for enjoying the game your way.
What noob doesn't smash all the dolls?
I agree
I hate morality systems. Don’t care I won’t be playing over it again later unless it’s a game that’s fun to do like Dark Souls. Dragon Age? Worst one. Don’t care for it. It ends up just being “look up every single multiple choice on the internet” type of thing.
@@Ceece20 morality systems are really annoying, in dishonored I wanted kill every guard in a mission
@@Ceece20 Only if you let it, I just choose what I want, even if I don't end up playing again.
@@orcus6893 Then do it, I did.
For the Dishonored one I actually enjoy it. I go through a normal playthrough my own way, then the achievement adds extra replayablity. It's kinda like how Hitman rewards you for playing a certain way but you can get go guns blazing and get the same story, but come back later and try it a different way for extra rewards. The achievements I hate the most though are the collect 50000 of a hard to get item/flag/riddlertrophy. Because at first collectables are fun (ex Banjo Kazooie) but then at a certain point it just becomes excessive and tedious.
For insulting achievements, see also X-men: Destiny. The Valkyrie achievement for getting killed 100 times which awards the grand total of 0G.
Could be worse, could be 1G.
@@nunyobidniz In Champions Online there's a SERIES of achievements for getting KOed. 10 points for 50 KOs, then 10 for 100, 150. 25 points each for the 200th, 250th, and 300th times. 50 points each for getting KOed 350 and 400 times.... then 10 for 1000 and 2000??? not sure if there's a higher one, getting above 1000 on a single character is quite time consuming.
When you fully complete a game and get that sweet 100% completion, only for a new DLC to come out the next month and knock down your overall score. Then by the time you've completed that, another DLC comes out! I'm not made of money you know... And it's worse when the DLC is awful.
That and making you play in a harder difficulty than you would want to. If you struggle with hard or medium why the hell would you want to go on insane/very hard/hard?
Fallout 4 did that but you didn't have to complete dlc for the platinum trophy.
The harder settings one, ugh. Like, I play games for fun, to relieve stress. Not to become more stressed by overly difficult challenges in a game I like but am not a master at.
Games should do the Hollow Knight thing with their dlc. Completing the base game will give you 100%. Then completing the dlcs will bring your score over 100%
Pajama Gamer Spider-Man did this exact the problem wasn’t that the DLC was bad but that it was so long between DLC I couldn’t get interested I finally went back and did it but back when the third DLC released I was just not with it
@@PentiSam then don't play on harder settings
When your eyes look to an achievement, or when it covers vital information and the resulting achievement kills you, or if you get a jump scare from an achievement in a horror game
"Whose Online is it anyways?"
Maybe the best pun I've seen
What is the pun? I really don't get it.
@@ka-mai there used to be an impromptu comedy show called "Whose Line is it anyway?"
@@graywolfdracon oh, okay, thanks!
@@graywolfdracon There still is. I think The CW has it now (US version).
@@zanderm.3408 Interesting. I haven't seen the show since Drew Carey hosted it.
"MIKE! MIKE! I GOT A FUN DRIVEY DRIVEY VROOM VROOM CHALLENGE FOR YOU!"
Mike suddenly materializes "HI THERE ELLEN!"
"AHH!"
My favorite part of this video. XD
Funnier if you recall they're all recording from home, meaning Mike just materialized in her house like the baddie from a horror movie.
Achievements are optional, and often thought for several playthroughs. In the end it is up to the player.
The only one of these that wasn't actual valid complaint was the very first one it does take you out of the moment a little bit when an achievement pops up in the middle of what's supposed to be an emotional moment the rest of these are either just nitpicks or things that can be easily fixed by not worrying about achievements on the first try
meh i certainly tried collecting all the tropies during my 1st play through of an AC game, but bc they are indeed not designed to be done first time they don't tell you how to get them until afterwards when you realise you ether got them by accident anyway or could have easily done so if they'd just said so.
Except the ones that are granted for unmissable story events.
Uggggghhghh Skyrim has an achievement you get for getting all the daedric artefacts. Which involves committing atrocities which made my dragonborn feel unheroic indeed.
Not to mention having to murder a really cool spell-slinging companion
Good thing my Dragonborn was a psychopath
Plus it was so glitched, I couldn’t get the achievement. 2 artifacts were glitched and unattainable.
You... Play... A hero?
In the game where two of the huge paths are thief and assassin, and you are expected to aid in fighting a war where no one is actually right or wrong, destroying many homes and causing much political unrest. As well as aiding the forsaken in a large escape, freeing murderous madmen upon the innocent people of the reach(The citizens should not pay for crimes of government and ancestor. ).
So, if you are a hero, are you also doing none of those things and effectively missing about half the game?
@@platinumraven118 Not OP, but yep.
@@floofyfoxxo744 why?
Ellen has got to be the best narrator,she just had a nice vibe and brings a contagious energy
Ellen is my favorite also... But that is not to say that Andy and Mike and Jane aren't good too! This channel has all good hosts. I like when they do cross overs with PlayStation Access. :-) But yes... Ellen has an infectiousness about her personality!!
Jane > the entire universe
Andy and Jane are the my favorite and the funniest. I like them all though.
@@LegendaryElite Big Jane > Small Jane > the entire universe
Ellen is my favorite. She's so cute.
"A few years ago everyone and their mum decided. . . " I swear I almost died laughing
Games that have bugged achievements the developers cant be bothered fixing, leaving it forever unattainable
Nothing like not getting several chievements in Dark Souls 3, like geting the estus upgraded to the max just for the achievement not unlocking, had to make a new save and give myself the upgrading materials via cheat engine just to get it.
@@TheRatedOniChannel Ouch, being dark souls that would be painful. Worst i had was in the Star trek movie tie in. Finished the game before i found out it was bugged. Couldn't be bothered replaying it
@@benkocsis414 God that sounds awful, but you know what's even worst? When there is absolutely no way to get an achievement; you may be thinking, wait, Oni, that is impossible... is not.
Pillars of Eternity has an imposible achievement, you wanna know what it is? It is an achievent to those that backed them in kickstarter... yes, a freaking achievement that only those that backed originally can have! Those that bought the game, like myself, are completely screwed out of the 100%.
@@TheRatedOniChannel yeah that definitely sucks
There's also an achievement for getting hat in tf2, where you have to get 1000 views on a replay directly uploaded from the game. However, tf2 can't actually track views anymore, as it's system is outdated. You can ONLY get it by cheating.
that moment when you realized that you just saved right after a point where you missed an achievement so you cant go back and redo it and you have to remember it for the next playthrough.
and then you forget about it and save it again.
especially if it is that single moment for the "true ending" achivements that are the most obscure part of the game that almost everyone including the devs forget to do anyway.
The game outward gives you a 1 GS achievement at the beginning, with a 99 GS achievement being awarded for completing each storyline in the game, which takes three playthroughs. Absolutely maddening. Luckily I was able to nicely round out my gamerscore again with No Man's Sky.
"The pacifist achievement locks you into playing through the whole game with a very limited toolset" also applies to the Deus Ex franchise.
Deus Ex is usually easier when you do the Stealth ones, at least. But the Pacifist one kinda sucks
I played the whole game not killing and the achievement never popped! I dunno what happened!
@@00pugsly48If someone dies by any means after you render them unconscious, you will not get the achievement. Don't know if it also works that way in MD
@@aardbei54 I didn't get it in MD even though I was very careful not to kill anybody. Completely killed my motivation to go for Platinum.
The most infuriating achievement I ever did was Smash TV in Portal 2. I ended up having to do it twice because it's so easy to screw up. I hate achievements with hard tasks and easy mistakes.
"So for any playstation and PC fans, feel free to sit back and be quietly smug."
Help I'm in this video and I don't like it.
Brilliant thing about PC, there's always a mod or save editor to help you pop those achievements. They're worthless, but it feels good when they suck to unlock (Starbound, I'm looking at you! 64 vague achievements which glitch out easily, like hell am I doing that the normal way!).
@@WolfyFancyLads I'm a PlayStation and PC fan, but for some reason I don't feel quietly smug, probably because I'm also an Xbox fan, and those xbox related things also apply to me.
Thank you! I will.
I was going to be quietly smug, but now I feel compelled to be slightly less quiet about it.
1:04 popping up at the wrong moment
AD: you say something?
Me:😑
Oh, you too?!? What a coincidence!! Friggin' ads....
But wasn't that in a way the perfect moment for an unwanted ad to interrupt the video?
@Creative Designation I guess? Still annoying though. I couldn't skip them either!! If I see that stupid Folgers commercial one more time...!!
Whenever I start playing a new game that has multiplayer achievements, my first thought is always, "Well, this is a game I'm never going to 100% I guess..."
Though, considering I'm not a completionist by any stretch and I just play games for the fun of it (and, yes, I will stop playing a game if it stops being fun and not look back, thanks for asking) it doesn't bother me very much to have a bunch of games that I haven't gotten 100% on.
I'm surprised no one asked for a Barbie Horse Adventures let's play after Bloodborne yet
I'm asking!
*chants* do it, do it, do it...
you better BET I'm asking
I'm currently on a 'no deaths' run through of Barbie Horse Adventures. It's pretty intense.
I literally have a category in my steam library for "Requires Multiplayer for 100% Achievements" which will never get filled in. Even worse if it's an older game with 0% chance of getting another player.
Double Dragon Neon does something similar to the Dirt example - when you start, it gives you a 1G achievement that tells you to "Finish what you started" and won't cough up the other 19 until you beat it
They covered a similar thing in another video, and they joked they’ll just starry another four games that do that and get the remainder that way lol
First play through: Engage in the story as much as possible
Second play through: Completionist
But what if there are 3 endings?
@@outsidextra 3rd playthrough is the one where you try killing every npc available
@@outsidextra 3rd is where you throw morality out the window and go for the evil ending
@@outsidextra Saving in a USB before the critical point, and loading the game later?
@@outsidextra FFX-2 required not only 2 play for story forks but you really needed a guide to find 100% of the story. It had a lot of tiny bits like finding out that a certain NPC likes pink flowers BEFORE beating them up.
Why did no one tell me there's a game where I can roam in Disneyland? O.o
Same!
Disneyland adventures is the name
Be careful tho
I have the game on xbox 360 and it uses kinect so it's not fun
it's on game pass as well!
Its fun but if you have a comnect it kinda sucks
I like the fact that when talking about having to check what the "right" dialogue choice is for your playthrough:
1. they choose mass effect, where the positions on the wheel are always the same
2. They choose a conversation with only 1 option
When there are so many that you get tired of playing games just scrolling through them. Really Civilization V? 286 achievements? You know I won't do that.
286?!?
@@kwynn1016 yes
And here comes payday 2 with 1200+ achievements
I have 256 of them at over 2000 hours logged, and the other 30 there is no chance of me completing because they are all very, very specific scenario based and on Deity difficulty.
Damn 286 for civ5 hoi4 has less than that on steam
Poor Jirard from The Completionist having to suffer through all these problems.
“Partake in Drivey drivey vroom vroom, which is the technical term for Rally racing.”
I’m definitely gonna use this.
I read the list of achievements for Observation. They were all secret for a reason and it completely spoiled the entire game and ruined everything. Don't read the achievements before or during your play through of the game. Definitely play it though. It's a great story and pretty unique overall.
In general many games can be ruined by reading achievements before you play the game
@@Niedomysm
Or what about the antithesis of this, when you want to peruse the achievements/trophy list to get a slight clue or hint at what's in store for you in terms of challenges...
BUT EVERY SINGLE ONE IS A HIDDEN ACHIEVEMENT/TROPHY!
The only example I have of this on-hand is 'Hyperdevotion Noire: Goddess Black Heart' for PS Vita, but man is it annoying.
This issue is so frustrating to me. I like to scan the achievement list for games because sometimes there are achievements that require a stupid amount of grinding and I'd rather spread it out over my actual playthrough than finish the game and then have to go back and do something tedious for hours, or a whole new playthrough where I just do one tiny thing different for an achievement. So, you have secret achievements that are ideal for hiding story spoilers but I can still see all the "arbitrary challenge" achievements.
BUT THEN, you have some stupid developers making secret achievements for things that you might never ever think of doing in the game, making it necessary to go look up the secret achievements if I want to avoid annoying post-game stuff anyway, and rendering the whole exercise completely fucking pointless.
Have spoiled a lot of games checking trophy lists
My thoughts go back to the "little rocket man" Gnome-toting achievement from Half Life 2. Somehow, back when acheivements first came out, my puny brain they were cheat unlocks and that something so stupid as carrying a lawn gnome across an entire world must lead to some awesome cheat codes.
I stopped caring about achievements after that, and I haven't looked back once.
To be fair there were or are a lot of games that do have that. I remember in some of the call of duty games, collecting intelligence would let you start activating all sorts of interesting cheats or whatever, like bouncing frag grenades where you toss one and it practically fills the room with explosions.
Another reason I love the subnautica games, relatively easy platinum from mostly story related trophies and some side actions. Also amazing and challenging games, so completely worth playing and more than once.
I've never worried about collecting achievements. I'd be playing along and the notification about some achievement I just got would pop up, I'd think "that's nice" and go back to playing. As for the morality choice - I use the WWJD methodology. "What Would Jane Do?" Yes, my play throughs tend to be dark and destructive.
"drivey drivey vroom vroom"; is that an industry term?
When you showed Mass Effect, I thought you would mention the achievements from Mass Effect 1 that require you to complete the large majority of the game's assignments with the same party member. This means that you cannot switch up your party throughout the game and experience some variety. And you have to play through the game this way three times to get all of them
8:29 I had this problem in ME3 when I literally couldn't get the ending I wanted because I didn't own ME1 and I can't find a single online match
To be fair, they patched this up so you can use a website now. And to be even fairer, none of the endings are the one you want. They're all trash.
they patched that out with the Extended cut DLC. they lowered the threshold to the point where you can reach it without multiplayer are having to own all three games
I actually have the exact opposite problem: my friends and I played so much multiplayer back in the day that it’s now literally impossible for me to get a “bad” ending, even if I completely skip all the side content.
Every time I hear someone say "git good" I want to "hit the git".
I seem to remember that I wanted to Platinum RE5, since I naturally reached a high percentage. Turned out I was mostly if not only missing the VS Mode thingy achievements. Funfact: The VS Mode thingy wasn't released in Germany (at least back then) because it was deemed too gruel for people to enjoy. So there was no way for me to achieve them.
RIP to you my pal 😭 that must have been so irritating!
Darn achievements, ruining heartfelt moments and forcing us into the multiplayer! Or, well, forcing YOU GUYS into the multiplayer -- I cannot be arsed. Single player games 4 life here. XD I will admit that achievements are satisfying, but yeah, being roped into playing the the game a very specific way can be frustrating. At least I'm the kind of person who enjoys hunting down collectibles for THOSE achievements.
I didn't have a Playstation (or Xbox) until three years ago. I'd hear people complain that Nintendo didn't have achievement systems, and I didn't even know what achievements were. Now that I have a PS4, I really don't get the appeal. I agree with you, I love in game collectables, but trophies awarded for things that aren't really part of the game's story do nothing for me.
That infamous achievement for Lollipop Chainsaw kept me from ever moving the camera around to the main character's butt. I got through the whole game and managed not to get it, which didn't really ruin the game, but oh the curiosity that was left unfulfilled.
As far as making you play a certain way goes, I think we all hate acheivements that restrict how we can play, but when it's stuff like "ghost" or "clean hands" I was probably going to go for that anyhow. I just leave evil achievos unfinished.
_Lollipop Chainsaw added to basket_
I got it on accident. Which is ironic because I'm pretty sure that's the name of the trophy.
Whenever I play a game with morality/reputation system I usually go with that I want the first time and then I'll playthrough more times going with the extremes. (Although I do usually end up trying to get all the trophiess, but that's probably just because I have OCD)
Same here. Always play how I feel first, leave the achievement hunting for after first play through.
my first game like that was the second army of two. had to play it through 3 times
best for me, full good, full bad
Anyone else find Ellen and Luke's soothing voices relaxing and calming?
We need Oxtra radio on the airwaves.😀
I could listen to Jane read a phone book all day