Truth is what IS in actuality. In terms of telling the truth, it's saying what you really think. As far as "the truth" in regards to the external world, I think Nietzsche's point that "there are only interpretations" is quite accurate; that is a better gauge for us, using accuracy as opposed to "truth."
Speak the Truth. I am like this since 27 years old, now I am forty. Maybe I have broke promises, but I never lied. Once we do that we are restricted to little friends, but I can feel the joy, lightness in heart, a sense of reality of God. We can actually feel the existence of God. This joy of simple heartedness, this restriction to few good friends, this firm feeling of God's presence, I can't turn back anymore for I have touched the fountain of joy.
Speaking of truth: using the gentleman labeled as smelling badly,evaluated thru personal , as well as collective agreement as to what smells BAD! Consider a woman entering the same therapeutic space, causing the same environmental disturbance, but the smell , also “unsettling”is emanating from a source generally agreed as smelling GOOD! Perfume in this matter, that has been applied without apparent limit! In both cases, how is the PERSON SEEN thru their aroma & then we go to our “wiring” to inform “our truth”, which we MAY OR MAY NOT set aside depending on our state of CONSCIOUSNESS! ?????😮
"From a Jungian perspective, what does it mean to believe in something? Things such as religious belief, or limiting beliefs. I've heard sub-personalities may have entire different beliefs systems that differ from the ego. How can belief effect a person's actions? Their internal systems? How far, how deep does it go?" I posted that question to Reddit just a couple a day ago, and here you are, talking about the nature of truth, facts, and reality. This, to me, seems like a synchronicity. Because I feel that this is a synchronicity, I should really listen and pay attention to what you all are saying, because this is no coincidence. I myself am struggling with truth, in particular, with the ultimate truth of our reality, that being the nature of God. So, I really see this video as a blessing that I should pay heed to.
I've never listened to Jungian analysts talk before! What a rare treat to delve into this world with you three. I am currently grieving my father who passed away a week ago (he was a psychiatrist!) and my mother who is still alive, but I have chosen as of this week to temporarily separate myself from her as her behaviors have been quite toxic for me. I feel the macaw dream deeply. Thank you for sharing your world. 🙏
I am watching this in the context of representing myself in corrupt family court hearings that greatly impacted my daughter and I in a negative way. In this context, money and power battles truth, so when I speak truth to power, it is very risky but necessary. Is it venom or a cure? That rests with the judge and has also to do with where I'm at in my healing at the time I present. Facts should be listed, truth illuminated. Too many truths - some for the world, some for me. As long as my path is true for me, that's all I ever wanted.
I wonder if some of the defensiveness and difficulty in receiving some mental health diagnoses, could be related to how it can indeed sound like an accusation, being embedded in the person and their experience which can be delivering a very different kind of truth than with a physical illness only.
Truth cant be known, but that doesnt mean that doesnt exist. As a matter of fact, Truth is Existence itself. The best we can do is experience something "true enough"
Its a very thoughtful and thought provocative. It really depends in what context. There are 2 worlds: subjective (its all about one’s thinking and feeling) and objective, which is a very nature and messages from archetypes of which are mandates that ego needs to satisfy
Thank you for this video, it addresses a topic I have struggled with my entire life and am actively attempting to integrate and master as I engage with these very issues by challenging the status quo presumptions of professional sources related to schizoid and other personality adaptations. For the first time in my life I am publicly "speaking truth to power" in hopes of improved understanding and better outcomes. Your discussion of the "scapegoat" and "Cassandra" complexes is interesting as applied to internal dynamics, I haven't encountered the application in that context before. I will have to ruminate over Lisa's observation about the common denominator between the two syndromes to understand the ways her "solution of truth" applies- fun stuff! I'm very interested in Joseph's uncharacteristic inability to identify the mechanisms involved with the disregard of truth in the Cassandra complex, as I also struggle to understand this reaction in my own (limited) communications and am attempting to address this dismissal of cause and consequences as a central factor in my own pursuit of truth. I think it would be a truly fascinating topic for a video, including mythological examples of Cassandra and all your perspectives of how they might apply in archetypal, clinical, intra- and inter-personal, and cultural contexts. I don't know of a trio more adept at exploring the various levels of potential application of mythical archetypes, or a Greek goddess more mysterious and worthy of your intuitive and analytical talents than Cassandra. I hope you all agree, and choose to pursue this topic further in the near future. Thanks so much, I am enjoying and learning a lot from your content.😊
I myself have been scapegoated (and likely I still am), and the commentary here about it doesn't make sense at all to me, and also not the comparison with a physician(?). It's a corrupt, often surreptitious world, and it often takes a lot of guts and selfsacrifice to express your disgust about it. Well, it must be a bad thing to be a whistleblower, taking the consequences in consideration 😬. One man here in the Netherlands (Arthur Gotlieb) even committed suicide after his misdoing. Chelsey Manning also tried to end his life. People's lifes get totally ruined, because their punishments set an example. To me whistleblowing is the individuated act supreme, and demands much more courage than confronting your shadow.
Yes, I am frequently scapegoated as well. Recently I had to tell a friend that she had a blackout rage and that I am concerned she is developing bipolar like her mother. I said I would attend any appointments if she wants the support. Prior to me telling her this, I had reached out to her family who denied it and seemed to hold me suspect...like I am the one at fault or deserved to be raged at. The friend has blocked me and I feel awful yet I know I had to tell her....nobody else would do it! Urgh! I am an ENTP and am tough but seriously...I am getting flak for doing the right things and feel I have to because nobody else has the guts. If I have a complex, I wish more ppl had it.
Truth has three kind, absolute truth, relative truth, reality which is real to us but not to others. But when our thought, speech and action is in cognition to direct observation of what is. This we call unity of one's own consciousness. We feel light. But yet, we will see how false our country is. Everything from economics to politics, it is all in blunder. There is a realisation of another Entity controlling our life. For the first time we are confident of God. But we must be truthful in order to see all this.
Intellectual humility is necessary, however the harm caused by the inability to “call a spade a spade” is enormous. Alternative facts, blatant misinformation, and perversion of language are fueling a mental health crisis and political instability. The ancient Greeks saw “crisis”, as an urgent time to hold a trial and reach a judgment. I see more judgment as a cure to current dysfunction. Interesting to note the rise of embracing your “Villain Era” in pop culture.
It's interesting to consider the etimology of words, but that's not how meaning is generated. European languages are full of words derived from a common root but with different, even opposing, meanings.
How about "Truth in the service of compassionate integrity." If not then, I keep my mouth shut. For example, "The truth is I don't like your height - you're too short." I wouldn't say this even though real and true. How do you feel about this method even though it appears more ethical than moral.... I also use the the phrase: "I feel you smell bad and I can't work with you till you shower." People must own their truths, not project them.
Actually people cannot be not too short…possibly for a job that requires a certain level of height but we are part of the human race regardless of our height.
I would say that your feelings are true, but your interpretation of the feeling into meaning will be flawed and subjective. Emotions don't tell you why they are, only that they are.
In my experience, you can get much more done with a hard truth than with an easy lie.
Truth is what IS in actuality. In terms of telling the truth, it's saying what you really think. As far as "the truth" in regards to the external world, I think Nietzsche's point that "there are only interpretations" is quite accurate; that is a better gauge for us, using accuracy as opposed to "truth."
Speak the Truth. I am like this since 27 years old, now I am forty. Maybe I have broke promises, but I never lied. Once we do that we are restricted to little friends, but I can feel the joy, lightness in heart, a sense of reality of God. We can actually feel the existence of God. This joy of simple heartedness, this restriction to few good friends, this firm feeling of God's presence, I can't turn back anymore for I have touched the fountain of joy.
"All words are trojan horses." I like that. I also appreciate; "holding my truth GENTLY." Thank you!
Speaking of truth: using the gentleman labeled as smelling badly,evaluated thru personal , as well as collective agreement as to what smells BAD! Consider a woman entering the same therapeutic space, causing the same environmental disturbance, but the smell , also “unsettling”is emanating from a source generally agreed as smelling GOOD!
Perfume in this matter, that has been applied without apparent limit! In both cases, how is the PERSON SEEN thru their aroma & then we go to our “wiring” to inform “our truth”, which we MAY OR MAY NOT set aside depending on our state of CONSCIOUSNESS! ?????😮
RamDass said if you want a know how enlightened you are, spend a week with your parents ❤
Thank you for all the energy you pour into your messages. Gifts are always repaid in kind.
This was a good topic and lots of food for thought. Thanks.
Thank you! Aunt Betty is real. So is Uncle Bob! They're almost archetypal. 😉
"From a Jungian perspective, what does it mean to believe in something? Things such as religious belief, or limiting beliefs. I've heard sub-personalities may have entire different beliefs systems that differ from the ego. How can belief effect a person's actions? Their internal systems? How far, how deep does it go?"
I posted that question to Reddit just a couple a day ago, and here you are, talking about the nature of truth, facts, and reality. This, to me, seems like a synchronicity.
Because I feel that this is a synchronicity, I should really listen and pay attention to what you all are saying, because this is no coincidence.
I myself am struggling with truth, in particular, with the ultimate truth of our reality, that being the nature of God. So, I really see this video as a blessing that I should pay heed to.
Synchronistic indeed!
Be'lie'if = A Dangerous game to play!
Better to have "Ideas" about Things, as you can Always Change your mind (that's what it's there for)
I've never listened to Jungian analysts talk before! What a rare treat to delve into this world with you three. I am currently grieving my father who passed away a week ago (he was a psychiatrist!) and my mother who is still alive, but I have chosen as of this week to temporarily separate myself from her as her behaviors have been quite toxic for me. I feel the macaw dream deeply. Thank you for sharing your world. 🙏
I am watching this in the context of representing myself in corrupt family court hearings that greatly impacted my daughter and I in a negative way. In this context, money and power battles truth, so when I speak truth to power, it is very risky but necessary. Is it venom or a cure? That rests with the judge and has also to do with where I'm at in my healing at the time I present. Facts should be listed, truth illuminated. Too many truths - some for the world, some for me. As long as my path is true for me, that's all I ever wanted.
I'd like to have these kind of conversations with my friends, and this kind of friendship. Thank you for the inspiration and for sharing this with us!
These episodes teach me the true meaning of words ❤❤❤
Ευχαριστούμε!
Y’all are such erudites! Thank you for sharing your wisdom. ❤
I like thT word, erudite. I've never used it but you've made me want to try. 😎
Truth to power in the hopes of moving sociopathic politicians to compassion is an impossible task.
They are just projections of your self.
Another great episode, thank you.
This was a really good episode. Nice Work! ❤
I wonder if some of the defensiveness and difficulty in receiving some mental health diagnoses, could be related to how it can indeed sound like an accusation, being embedded in the person and their experience which can be delivering a very different kind of truth than with a physical illness only.
It feels like the concept of archery and a shot being “true” to the mark feels relevant.
Truth cant be known, but that doesnt mean that doesnt exist.
As a matter of fact, Truth is Existence itself.
The best we can do is experience something "true enough"
Its a very thoughtful and thought provocative. It really depends in what context. There are 2 worlds: subjective (its all about one’s thinking and feeling) and objective, which is a very nature and messages from archetypes of which are mandates that ego needs to satisfy
30:51 and what if the therapist doesn’t reflect the truth but only their own prejudice
Truth is efficient.
Thank you for this video, it addresses a topic I have struggled with my entire life and am actively attempting to integrate and master as I engage with these very issues by challenging the status quo presumptions of professional sources related to schizoid and other personality adaptations. For the first time in my life I am publicly "speaking truth to power" in hopes of improved understanding and better outcomes.
Your discussion of the "scapegoat" and "Cassandra" complexes is interesting as applied to internal dynamics, I haven't encountered the application in that context before. I will have to ruminate over Lisa's observation about the common denominator between the two syndromes to understand the ways her "solution of truth" applies- fun stuff!
I'm very interested in Joseph's uncharacteristic inability to identify the mechanisms involved with the disregard of truth in the Cassandra complex, as I also struggle to understand this reaction in my own (limited) communications and am attempting to address this dismissal of cause and consequences as a central factor in my own pursuit of truth. I think it would be a truly fascinating topic for a video, including mythological examples of Cassandra and all your perspectives of how they might apply in archetypal, clinical, intra- and inter-personal, and cultural contexts. I don't know of a trio more adept at exploring the various levels of potential application of mythical archetypes, or a Greek goddess more mysterious and worthy of your intuitive and analytical talents than Cassandra. I hope you all agree, and choose to pursue this topic further in the near future. Thanks so much, I am enjoying and learning a lot from your content.😊
I myself have been scapegoated (and likely I still am), and the commentary here about it doesn't make sense at all to me, and also not the comparison with a physician(?). It's a corrupt, often surreptitious world, and it often takes a lot of guts and selfsacrifice to express your disgust about it. Well, it must be a bad thing to be a whistleblower, taking the consequences in consideration 😬. One man here in the Netherlands (Arthur Gotlieb) even committed suicide after his misdoing. Chelsey Manning also tried to end his life. People's lifes get totally ruined, because their punishments set an example.
To me whistleblowing is the individuated act supreme, and demands much more courage than confronting your shadow.
Yes, I am frequently scapegoated as well. Recently I had to tell a friend that she had a blackout rage and that I am concerned she is developing bipolar like her mother. I said I would attend any appointments if she wants the support. Prior to me telling her this, I had reached out to her family who denied it and seemed to hold me suspect...like I am the one at fault or deserved to be raged at. The friend has blocked me and I feel awful yet I know I had to tell her....nobody else would do it! Urgh! I am an ENTP and am tough but seriously...I am getting flak for doing the right things and feel I have to because nobody else has the guts. If I have a complex, I wish more ppl had it.
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Truth has three kind, absolute truth, relative truth, reality which is real to us but not to others. But when our thought, speech and action is in cognition to direct observation of what is. This we call unity of one's own consciousness. We feel light. But yet, we will see how false our country is. Everything from economics to politics, it is all in blunder. There is a realisation of another Entity controlling our life. For the first time we are confident of God. But we must be truthful in order to see all this.
Intellectual humility is necessary, however the harm caused by the inability to “call a spade a spade” is enormous. Alternative facts, blatant misinformation, and perversion of language are fueling a mental health crisis and political instability.
The ancient Greeks saw “crisis”, as an urgent time to hold a trial and reach a judgment. I see more judgment as a cure to current dysfunction. Interesting to note the rise of embracing your “Villain Era” in pop culture.
"What I know right now is..." - would not be honest. "I feel right now that...."
Perfect.
It's interesting to consider the etimology of words, but that's not how meaning is generated. European languages are full of words derived from a common root but with different, even opposing, meanings.
How about "Truth in the service of compassionate integrity." If not then, I keep my mouth shut. For example, "The truth is I don't like your height - you're too short." I wouldn't say this even though real and true. How do you feel about this method even though it appears more ethical than moral.... I also use the the phrase: "I feel you smell bad and I can't work with you till you shower." People must own their truths, not project them.
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Actually people cannot be not too short…possibly for a job that requires a certain level of height but we are part of the human race regardless of our height.
I would say that your feelings are true, but your interpretation of the feeling into meaning will be flawed and subjective. Emotions don't tell you why they are, only that they are.
R/o anosmia
And according to Ben Shapiro facts do not care about your feelings 😂
Ha ha