I hate these withdrawal missions! I always seem to end up defending when this comes up when we roll for missions. If you know this is the mission, I'm not sure what the best strategy would be for the defender; maybe bring recon formations with dozens and dozens of armored car and light tank units? Or a maxed-out veteran rifle company and as many cheap support units as you can add.
Yea I'm normally not to keen on them either. But it was in the campaign list and am trying to have a variety of armies for the campaign instead of "All mechanized all the time" lists.
At the end there you added one to the delay counter and then counted it as six, so the game didnt end then. Also, Im not sure you are right to leave tanks as wrecks when they fail unit checks. If they are bailed out, they are wrecks. Otherwise they just drive off - see page 81 of the rules book.
Aw man, your right. I did the Delay counter in the wrong order. I don't think it would have changed much since all I had to do was kill his formation HQ to break the formation but it would have given him an extra turn forcing me into 8.8cm LOS, which I was trying to avoid. I was gonna argue against the Last Stand Test because I had read it, re-read it, then read it again and was 100% sure that it said you destroyed the tanks, not removed them. Well thats what I get when I think myself for bein gewd at engilish.
@@dragontankgaming I dont think it would have materially altered the result, although you might have lost a few more teams before you won! I know that this idea of tanks blowing themselves up rather than driving off when they fail morale tests was one of the things that you disliked about the rules, so Im glad that has been completely resolved!
My opponent is so used to playing them with his recon formation he took them as a black box support even though they are a grey box heh. I didn't double check his army to confirm if that was possible. Marders (being the legal version) would be better. What's a Beute StuG?
Ah never heard it called that. In the future I would run the Marder over the 7.5 hotchkiss as support. 1 less point for (nearly) negligible armor difference and being able to take them up to 4 is good option.
I hate these withdrawal missions! I always seem to end up defending when this comes up when we roll for missions. If you know this is the mission, I'm not sure what the best strategy would be for the defender; maybe bring recon formations with dozens and dozens of armored car and light tank units? Or a maxed-out veteran rifle company and as many cheap support units as you can add.
Yea I'm normally not to keen on them either.
But it was in the campaign list and am trying to have a variety of armies for the campaign instead of "All mechanized all the time" lists.
At the end there you added one to the delay counter and then counted it as six, so the game didnt end then. Also, Im not sure you are right to leave tanks as wrecks when they fail unit checks. If they are bailed out, they are wrecks. Otherwise they just drive off - see page 81 of the rules book.
Aw man, your right. I did the Delay counter in the wrong order.
I don't think it would have changed much since all I had to do was kill his formation HQ to break the formation but it would have given him an extra turn forcing me into 8.8cm LOS, which I was trying to avoid.
I was gonna argue against the Last Stand Test because I had read it, re-read it, then read it again and was 100% sure that it said you destroyed the tanks, not removed them.
Well thats what I get when I think myself for bein gewd at engilish.
@@dragontankgaming I dont think it would have materially altered the result, although you might have lost a few more teams before you won!
I know that this idea of tanks blowing themselves up rather than driving off when they fail morale tests was one of the things that you disliked about the rules, so Im glad that has been completely resolved!
How are the Stummels a support choice. In the new D Day book they can have Marders or Buete Stugs.
My opponent is so used to playing them with his recon formation he took them as a black box support even though they are a grey box heh.
I didn't double check his army to confirm if that was possible.
Marders (being the legal version) would be better. What's a Beute StuG?
Sorry it's the 21st Panzer assault gun.
Ah never heard it called that. In the future I would run the Marder over the 7.5 hotchkiss as support. 1 less point for (nearly) negligible armor difference and being able to take them up to 4 is good option.