A Safe AND Agressive Build for ALL LEVELS of Starcraft 2!

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  • @kevinrowley3039
    @kevinrowley3039 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    So excited to have you back at making videos! Just make sure you don’t get burned out. Quality over quantity.

  • @Leeway4434
    @Leeway4434 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    One idea I have for you lambo is a pepega tuesday format where you go through a few viewer submitted replays of the same build (for example the build in this video) and you can give feedback on the different mistakes people make. This would give you an opportunity to explain the impact of their mistakes and what are the highest priority fixes to focus on improving. With all the viewers focusing on the same build, you can benchmark them against each other and show how big of an impact the lower league mistakes compare to the higher mmr viewers' executions

  • @ToTheNines87368
    @ToTheNines87368 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just leaving a comment for the algorithm. Thanks for the content Lambo!
    Edit: why is this not on LamboTV? Seems like educational content

    • @LamboSC2
      @LamboSC2  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There will be Educational Content on this Channel aswell, since that's my bread and butter. LamboTV will be for lower effort educational content without many edits, and Videos that didn't make the cut for the main Channel!

  • @zaticTL
    @zaticTL ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saw Serral play this recently and it looked so random - thanks for the explanation and the logic behind the ling timings

  • @michaelpohlgeers3214
    @michaelpohlgeers3214 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Now on lower level"
    *I saw upatree do it*
    Sal will never recover from this burn xD

  • @djenster6702
    @djenster6702 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've been playing the 5 roach build from free mmr friday for a while, whenever i wanted some initiative in zvt. It's great to get some more options because that build could feel kinda all-in. I'd love to see something similar for ZvZ and ZvP, low commitment non-standard openers which can give me some initative. This is the sc2 content ive been waiting for!

    • @phimon7272
      @phimon7272 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think 12 pool in ZvP can do the trick, and you already have a video on it by lambo !

  • @Leeway4434
    @Leeway4434 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you lambo! Been waiting for these to come back for ages I love your tutorials. These agressive builds are great in my mmr (D3) because so many people cannon rush/2 base all in/ etc.

  • @blessyou3999
    @blessyou3999 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for the build/explanation.
    must admit I haven't played gas first build against T for a long time.

  • @brknkybrd3542
    @brknkybrd3542 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your explanations are extraordinarily clear and easily some of the best educational content on SC2. Thanks for your time!

  • @miguelrondon6534
    @miguelrondon6534 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    VERY GLAD TO HAVE YOU BACK BRO there are very few zerg teachers you are the best

  • @xungsc2747
    @xungsc2747 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So geil das du wieder yt videos machst ❤

  • @breddygud6890
    @breddygud6890 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lambo my man it's great to have you back. Your tutorials have helped make me the diamond zerg that I am today. Peace brother!

  • @Sparta-vu3jj
    @Sparta-vu3jj ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to see you uploading again Lambo!

  • @niklasreimark4210
    @niklasreimark4210 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As usual your videos are so high quality with so much information I'm reaching for a notebook to keep up and learn everything. Will definately have to watch this several times, to pick up all the details. Would love for some of the build, maybe like the standard progress of the build to be accessible in an easy to read- format, then again I can always watch it again with my notebook xD
    Thanks for a great vid!

  • @AboutOliver
    @AboutOliver ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the content, Lambo. This helps me a lot!

  • @MrBulya
    @MrBulya ปีที่แล้ว

    Great to have your content back. I would like to have some similar ways of disrupting Protosses in the ZvP match-up. One of the free MMR ZvP builds I used in the past was the hatch tech queen walk, which doesn't work anymore due to the inability to transfuse off creep. But even small disruption to the protoss in the ZvP match-up, like you do here is already enough for me, as I can play the mid game but the longer ZvPs last the more frustrating they become, and having a little edge from the start is already great to have in (I do it in ZvT, and many times in ZvZ, as they don't expect a pool first build in ZvT, or a 17-17-17 in ZvZ, but lack something similar for ZvP).

  • @КокоревГлеб
    @КокоревГлеб ปีที่แล้ว

    Lambo, ty so much for actual builds in sc2. Ur channel is pretty much the best Zerg guides i have found. Im playing in diamond 1, hoping for master with ur help :P.
    The most hard part was about queens. I get pretty much confused, when u skip time between 2:31/ 3:04.
    But i rewatched it about 10 times and i get it eventually. Ty again so much for what u are doing

  • @hunterbauer4320
    @hunterbauer4320 ปีที่แล้ว

    love these videos breaking down builds and talking through the decision tree of how to respond to various things. You rock, thanks lambo!

  • @BukovTervicz
    @BukovTervicz ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my god. Best guide video ever. Can you do for other Zerg openings, safer ones, riskier ones, vs certain scout info, stuff like that? This was so well explained

  • @romanolara6898
    @romanolara6898 ปีที่แล้ว

    heck yea glad to see you back. i been needing some well done tutorials.

  • @Dyncommon
    @Dyncommon ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was exactly what I needed

  • @jackshea8385
    @jackshea8385 ปีที่แล้ว

    So excited for the educational and analytical content, would love to see an all matchup roach guide

  • @javierestrada237
    @javierestrada237 ปีที่แล้ว

    great guide, appreciate the depth, thank you

  • @cyrusposting
    @cyrusposting ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice guide! Glad to see you're posting again.

  • @spiffdickerson8094
    @spiffdickerson8094 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sick Video thanks man

  • @balazshajdu4612
    @balazshajdu4612 ปีที่แล้ว

    So cool to see these educational videos back from You! Appreciate the work and efforts, we keep improving thanks to You! :)

  • @andytypes8271
    @andytypes8271 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video!

  • @demonhunter2121
    @demonhunter2121 ปีที่แล้ว

    Welcome back Lambo!

  • @hectatusbreakfastus6106
    @hectatusbreakfastus6106 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Lambo. Us metal league zeroes need all the help we can get hahaha

  • @tatotato85
    @tatotato85 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Heck yeah, time to gloriously blunder my way around this build on ladder and eventually later torments some terrans with it.
    Ty proff

  • @kalujny
    @kalujny ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff thanks tons!!

  • @rewazzu
    @rewazzu ปีที่แล้ว

    Great guide. Helped me win many games.

  • @linguablasphemantes315
    @linguablasphemantes315 ปีที่แล้ว

    finde es geil, wie detailliert du den Build beschreibst, aber was erwarte ich auch. Etwas klaut es schon den Vibe, dieses spontane "dronen" oder "lings" (bin halt auch nur dia3), allerdings ist das Timing auch verdammt früh. Bin gerne mal etwas vor der terranischen Defense in der Natural, macht ja auch Sinn zwecks Damage und Scouting und es ist zudem Macro, was die Planungssicherheit vergößert. Wird direkt geübt ;)

  • @jacobgirling7739
    @jacobgirling7739 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd love to see an advanced QLASH guide from you lambo, I just feel I'm not quite doing it right!

  • @furious791
    @furious791 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for that Lambo !! :)

  • @javierestevez9680
    @javierestevez9680 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good u are back 🔥

  • @strummer856
    @strummer856 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally my zerg germán Teacher is back and now I ill be able to reach másters 😊😊

  • @krisdabrowski5420
    @krisdabrowski5420 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this type of 17gas 17pool build is ideal when facing against random. Catches cheese, and doesn't put you that much back if they macro opener, and possibly gives you an opportunity to reactively all-in if you smell blood in the water.

    • @kurt7937
      @kurt7937 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yup i follow it every game in mid dia. 12 pool? easy. cannon rush? easy. proxy rax? easy. the amount of games i check protoss build order and its forge first is, id say a sickening 70-80%. but they usually decide not to try :D much less frustration

  • @voidreact
    @voidreact 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    loved the video! does this build work against Z and P as well? considering diamond and below

  • @sharpie11112
    @sharpie11112 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome vid! What's the pro vs cons against the 17 pool 17 hatch 17 gas? Mainly slower speed I would imagine for a faster base

  • @michaelpohlgeers3214
    @michaelpohlgeers3214 ปีที่แล้ว

    the funny thing is about lower level terrans just yolo-ing in their SCV: I tried the build a few times now and lower-level terrans (~3.8k MMR) walk into your base at the 1 minute mark or something. All that theory about stopping the scout goes out the window. Great build though, fun to play!

    • @LamboSC2
      @LamboSC2  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      haha i didn't consider that.
      The thing is that if somebody scouts that early they won't know if its a roach build or a normal lingspeed build anyways then, so there's a good chance they'll just overreact and you'll be far ahead!

    • @michaelpohlgeers3214
      @michaelpohlgeers3214 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LamboSC2 works like a charm and is my new favourite build against Terran right now! I just have to learn not to throw the late game lol

  • @inventingabetteryou9210
    @inventingabetteryou9210 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice build Lambo, i think this should be called solid macro safe build, not so much "aggressive build" since there is no plan of attacking the enemy early on to do significant damage or win, making 4-10 lings in first 4-5 min or gameplay is very standard, and so is the ling harass at the oponent natural based on the reaper position. What i would call aggressive is ur 8 roach 1 rav oxide build.

    • @LamboSC2
      @LamboSC2  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, it is not common to harass this early on with zerglings. This is the only build with intention to inflict damage with lings on a high level, so there definitely is an agressive aspect to it.
      It is less commited than the 9 roach opener for sure though.
      I straight up won games against top players with the lingspeed attack aswell so damage is not uncommon :)
      If you want to take the agression further, u can make the 2 drones after the 22 overlord into extra lings and one more pair after to make it 14 lings and try to catch the first two hellions with them.

  • @christophnachname1855
    @christophnachname1855 ปีที่แล้ว

    nur für den algorithmus und danke :P

  • @kazuyanakagawanakagawa8599
    @kazuyanakagawanakagawa8599 ปีที่แล้ว

    gracias,hermano

  • @ericevans7741
    @ericevans7741 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for the great guide really appreciate it... BUT WHAT DO I DO AGAINST PROTOSS, I need a safe aggressive build for zvp! Please my mmr, she is very sick.

    • @kurt7937
      @kurt7937 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      same build brüdda. i do this build in every matchup in high diamond. maybe in masters ill stop, but i wouldnt ever put myself thru the mental hell that is opening 16 18 17 in low mmr again. in 70% of my games these freaks inflate their mmr by going forge first and they dont even try when they see my ´´12 pool´´.

  • @DaveVinylMusic
    @DaveVinylMusic ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Lambo, thanks for the build order guide. Do you think this BO would also be applicable in ZvP? Especially at Diamond/Low Master level there are still many cannon rushers, that would be the ideal counter to it, wouldn't it?

    • @LamboSC2
      @LamboSC2  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you struggle with cannonrushes i think this is a very good built to do yes. Chance for an overreaction from protoss and not the worst start if nothing happens. Against toss i would recommend only making 2 lings however :)

  • @damedley75
    @damedley75 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm gold/plat Zerg on NA. I've done a 17/17/17 Gas/Pool/Hatch Ling Speed build in ZvZ for a while and it's been super effective, especially when I roll Zerg with Random. Something I don't understand is why not build Gas at 14 and put 2 in the gas some or all of the time. This reduces the impact of the inefficient 3rd gas worker. Or you could get 100 gas faster at the (temporary) expense of some minerals.
    I started by stating my league because I know Lambo and many other players out there in the comments are more knowledgeable and much faster than me. I'm just trying to understand.

    • @LamboSC2
      @LamboSC2  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because you lose the extra mineral income too early, which slows down further timings like the extra drones, pool and hatchery. Feel free to test it yourself and compare it with my build to see if you can get a more efficient opener up to 2 minutes into the game :)

    • @damedley75
      @damedley75 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LamboSC2 OK thanks for the response. I'll try it sometime.

    • @damedley75
      @damedley75 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​ @LamboSC2 What I'm seeing is you can start Speed right when the Pool finishes at 1.36 if you 14 gas and put 2 workers in it. But then you have to delay your queen for a few seconds.

    • @LamboSC2
      @LamboSC2  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@damedley75 Did you check the actual mineral counts, things like starting the 3rd hatch right away, and having all the drones spawn at the exact time is much more valuable than slightly earlier speed!

    • @damedley75
      @damedley75 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LamboSC2 I'm slowly working that out. I totally get that there are things more important than fast Speed. I'm not claiming to have THE ANSWER that all Zerg pros have somehow missed haha. Just trying to understand myself.

  • @phimon7272
    @phimon7272 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gold content !

  • @azagogh
    @azagogh ปีที่แล้ว

    How does this fare against protoss?

    • @LamboSC2
      @LamboSC2  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      on high level (above 5k) i would say this is pretty bad against protoss, but i believe for anything below that it can be pretty good cause it's safe vs everything and can confuse the opponent. It will give you leads by protosses overreacting, but if a toss knows to just block your natural go stargate and ignore the gas he will be ahead.

    • @azagogh
      @azagogh ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LamboSC2 ty! they do tend to block the nat sometimes, but it's ok by me because it just feels so good taking gas first after going hatch pool gas forever. like a zerg forbidden pleasure. also they are not as keen on adept harass, which I tend to handle like a complete idiot, so that's good.

  • @aimaxlol9572
    @aimaxlol9572 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi guys this build work in zvp too ?

    • @kurt7937
      @kurt7937 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i use in all 3 matchups in low mmr, works great at least to d1. only way to play against inflated cheesers.

  • @st4rk1113r
    @st4rk1113r ปีที่แล้ว

    Considering your request for feed back, I think you are plenty great already, but maybe if you want to work on something, it should be your intro, they feel a little awkward and don't flow naturally

  • @CyberiaChild
    @CyberiaChild ปีที่แล้ว

    why are germans so based