Here's a video idea! You guys are the undisputed kings of the shootouts. What if you take a Squier Classic Vibe, a Made in Mexico vintera series, a USA reissue, a custom shop, and an actual vintage guitar (all based in the same decade, presumably 50s or 60s) and do a blindfold test. I think that would be a super interesting video and a good way to go straight up the line. Throw me a 👍if you agree!
Neck profiles are noticeably different between those models, except maybe custom shop and an actual vintage guitar, won't be much of a challenge in terms of playing them. The sound however...
Oh believe me I’ve tried most of those and an owner of original 60s .. that thick c shape neck and everything about original is just amazing!! The others are great too but 60s original and real non reissue are like lifting Thor’s milnor
The funny thing with Pete jammin' is that once it's time for him to play backing track you can just tell he's wondering about stuff like.. "did i lock the door this morning?" or "did i water the plants?".. then suddenly he can just pop off in the most amazing solos. What a guy.
I didn’t either, or so I thought. I played a PRS since 2001. But when I got a *good* strat, there really is a certain magic to them. They’re not the easiest to play compared to others, & they’re a pretty lousy choice for metal shredding with modern alternatives, but there is something undeniably amazing when you’re chugging out tones like in the beginning of this video. They’re super dynamic instruments, and you can get the sweetest quiet sounds or if you snap the strings like you want to break them they’ll just wail and thump. It just feels like a much more engaging and ‘connected’ instrument than my other electrics, and the clarity on all the pickups with all the chimey overtones is soooo good.
Before the 5 way, many folks stuffed a match stick in the slot, to jam the switch between positions on the 3way, getting a tone similar to what the 5way sounds like now.
Way before the 5-way switch players modded their strats so that the lower tone control would actually be a separate volume control wired into the middle pickup, and the bridge and neck would be wired to the 3-way switch just like in a telecaster. This would give you not just the middle positions, but also neck+bridge and all three. It was called the Memphis wiring, though it's very possible that it has other names too.
I agree with Lee when it comes to being able to feel the fretboard when doing bends, vibrato etc. It’s especially noticeable if a guitar has large/block inlays. I try and play as light as possible but do have to grip a bend.
First principle - No two guitars sound the same regardless of whether they are identical in every observable way. That understood, real vintage ‘50s and ‘60s Strats generally sound very different in the vast majority of instances. As you mentioned, the body wood changed from Ash to Alder in ‘56 and the pickups were constantly but subtly evolving. By ’61 they were distinctly mellower, ’62 being what many consider the optimum Strat pickup. Neck profiles and thickness from ‘50s thicker to ’60s thinner, changed the mass of the neck and this was greatly influential on the sound of the guitars. Experience has shown that rosewood vs. maple fingerboards regarding brightness of tone is a myth. Blind trials and experience have shown that there is no consistent or predictable tonal difference between a rosewood and a maple fingerboard on a Fender guitar. I have heard and played Strats and Teles with rosewood boards that were brighter than those with maple boards and vicey versey. While the neck as a whole is highly influential on the tone and resonance of a guitar, the fingerboard wood apparently does not affect the brightness of any particular guitar very much or at all. They do feel different to play, however, and whichever you prefer, that’s the one for you. Tonally though, not really a factor. As for lacquer on the board, Pete, I’m skeptical. I’d like to see a blind comparison. Also; yes, a properly set up 7.25” radius neck will not fret out unless you intend to do 1½ step bends and such. Very low action is not a good idea, anyway. In many instances, slightly raising the action (and lowering the pickups) improves tone and sustain, but that’s another discussion.
The thing that would make me pay for even the cheapest US Fender is if they'd offer custom options like color and fingerboard wood... For instance... A Pink Shell body is nice... But if I want one with a maple fingerboard I have to really search hard and pay up or go partscaster
I got a 50s spec and it’s everything I wanted compared to my Player series strat (although I love my player). I’ve heard the differences, both are great but I certainly feel that nothing beats that original 54 sound
Pick fingerboards based on what you think looks best. Our eyes deceive us, everyone thinks rosewood is darker and warmer sounding because the color is dark and warm. In reality no one could distinguish the sound between rosewood and maple in a blind test.
Many of the songs recorded in the 60's, were actually played with guitars (strats and teles) from the 50's. Some artists preferred a guitar with some wear.
I went for the 60's, and I'm glad I did.... and yes, the nitro finish on the AO's is easy to ding to bare wood, even with the poly undercoat. First flake popped off near the strap button while swapping them for strap-locks.
I perceive a little bit of darkness in the sound in almost all the videos, or maybe I'm used to hearing strats with a lot of high end? I'm 1 click from buying one of these, but I would like an opinion on this matter.
It's really strange for me since the late 80s when I started playing I always loved the thick warm bridge humbucker sound recently I do t know why the thin single coil of a strat I don't know I like it I suddenly like the thin metallic sound I really have got to get a strat now I'm itching it's the placement of the volume knob that I guess I'll have to get more comfortable with but oh my goodness that sound even clean
Remove the neck pickup tone pot, wire all the pickups to the remaining tone pot, and move the volume pot down a spot. That's how my Warmoth strat is set up (with push/pull pots in both spots, one to split my humbuckers and one for a midboost circuit that came with my Ghost piezo system). I have both wired as volumes though, one electric and one piezo.
I have heard that Eric Clapton discovered that he could use a match to lock the other positions. That was with Derec and the dominoes with his brownie.
Yeah I have seen a doco where clapton talks about doing it. Makes sense that Hendrix also did it though... took years for fender to make the switch though
@Klaus Ebner Classic Player series (made in mexico) back in the day were excellent for the price as well. Some people say the best guitars that ever came out of the Mexican factory, at least up to that point.
I've got an Indonesian Squier Telecaster I bought in the 90s and a new Player strat built in Mexico. There is a big uplift in quality and sound. However, I can't see there being much of a difference between a guitar built in Mexico and one built a couple of hundred miles further north in the USA (often by Mexican workers) with the same pickups and hardware. Vintera and the Mexican made Fenders can be BETTER quality than the US ones.
@@andertons my first guitar was actually a 16 year old epiphone custom shop 59 Les Paul that I bought from you guys last summer. Brilliant guitar with plenty of punch
i own a fender 50s clasic strat, i guess it's the predecessor to the vintera series, or fender just renamed the classic series to vintera. it's the best guitar i own, though it's not the most expensive one. the 7,25" radius is something one has to become used to though, the v-shape of the neck just feels perfect though. mine doesn't have the tone control for the bridge pickup though, only middle and neck.
According to Billy Gibbons it was Jimi Hendrix who showed him how to remove the detente screws in the 3-way switch and allow it to play "out of phase" as they called it in those days. That would have been in the late 60's when they opened for Hendrix, '68-'69.
60's are definitely warmer and fuller, at least in this video. I think that is 100% due to a combination of the pickups being wound differently and the rosewood fretboard.
It’s unhealthy how much I hate brand new instruments that have been relic’d. There’s no character to it, like a 60 year old guitar that’s seen the road more than the average human. It’s just sad that vintage and beat up is a selling point on brand new instruments. When they’re not vintage, nor naturally beat up.
I've been playing my first ever guitar a lot recently. It's 25 years old, it's been thrown around the back of vans, dropped, played (obviously) and it still looks relatively new. Relicking is like someone might imagine an old guitar to look but not really how they do look.
why cant i have both 50s and 60s strats? they're great in their own right but if you insist ima take the 50s cuz they're cooler and ima take it in the seafoam green one gotta love that one
Smaller necks hurt my wrist. Your pinching is a tighter pinch the smaller the neck. Naturally if the neck is wider the distance between your finger tips and thumb is further so a little less stress on your muscles.
Please do a video on the Eric Johnson Signature Strat (just regular artist series one)! Would love to see it compared with an American Original 50's since they are very similar in specs. Curious if the V-neck is more pronounced, how the pick-ups sound in comparison, any other differences
I think the lower bass output on the 50s makes the mids and highs come out more, which makes it sound a bit more inyaface. 60s has a warmer, fuller sound to my ears, but I’d probably take the 50s in a band situation.
I thought you guys did an admirable job discussing the nuanced differences of both the two decades but also the two lines. I appreciate the honesty you consistently display given the position you hold in the industry. Thanks again from Long Beach, CA. 🤠
Back in the 60s when I was touring with a band I had a 59 strat with a slab rosewood board.Often aftersetting up and getting a balance I'd swap guitars with the lead player in other groups just to compare set ups and sounds.The General opinion among other Strat players was that mine sounded much brighter ....they generally had later models...with rosewood boards.This leads me to believe that the difference was because of the pickups.
Late 60s/70s strats never get recognition because they are CBS and made worse at the time but thats later Hendrix, Gilmour, The Edge, Clapton etc the biggest strat users.
Is it correct that in the 60s you could choose between a rosewood or maple fretboard as said at 25:55? I've never see a 60s strat with a maple board. Great video as always!
You could special order a maple fretboard at some point after the early '60s. For an example of this, look up Bob Dylan and Robbie Robertson's black Telecaster.
5 way switches weren’t available until late 1977, I bought a early 1977 Stratocaster in March 1977, it had a 3 way switch but all black plastic. I remember being able to buy 5 way switches in guitar player magazine.
Ye gods. That intro jam was amazing. I don't know what it is, but I've found I started to change my vibrato style when I play the Strat, and now I know where I got it from! Lee, you're contagious!
Some very nice tones there! I'm a little older and my hands don't cooperate as well as they used to, I prefer the 7.25" radius these days. Single line leads seem easier with 9.5 and 12. Although I've never had an issue 'fretting out' on a 7.25. JMHO... --gary
Watched this video- played both- watched video again- checked bank account- purchased the 50s hahaha- ultimately I did find the 50s to have more "snap". Thanks, guys for persuading me to pickup a Vintera! Love it to bits and been loving all of Fender's MIM offerings- will come by the shop one day when I travel to the UK!
If you think you can feel the wood grain when you bend strings, that's just scratchy frets. Your strings never actually make contact with the fretboard, try it out. It's another reason why it doesn't make sense that your fretboard material would affect the sound at all.
@@bobzmuda3940 You didn't understand the context of what I was saying. I never claimed your fingers don't touch the fretboard, that would be stupid lol. I was debunking the thought that fretboards with a lot of grain will "catch" the string and feel scratchy when you try to bend a note. Your fingers definitely touch the fretboard, your strings do not. If you think your guitar feels "scratchy" when you bend a note, it means you need to polish your frets.
@@TcSomers ah i see your point now. true yes, scratchy bends definitely could be your fret wire. but what im sure theyre talking about, along with eric clapton and the way he described bending on rosewood vs maple, your fingers feel the grain of the rosewood, where as maple feels smoother on your finger tip while fretting and bending.
@@bobzmuda3940 I exclusively play Rosewood necks because I don't like the slick feeling of the finish on Maple. Ebony is nicer but I ain't that rich haha. But I've never once thought about the grain when I play, it's so unnoticeable ha.
I would choose a 2016 US standard one! Ash body, beautiful Sienna burst, smooth 22 fret neck with rounded fretboard edges. Half the price of a new one and I love that extra fret (being so used to Les Paul's) ;0)
the good news is theres a Stratocaster for everybody! Fender s never really gone down the wrong path unlike its Nashville counterpart, imho. With the Nashville guitars of the past decade u always kinda had to look out for the good model runs..... dude, I really had to track down my non-chambered Les Paul, I can tell ya :'D
I'm just glad Fender hasn't gone to 24 frets, makes the guitar look and sound different by pushing the pickups together and moving the neck pickup towards the bridge. 21 or 22, either is fine for me. I'm rarely up to the 22nd fret.
What happened to the Captain's ears? they're all big and black... And, everything sounds better with the Dane on And, the "my hands are too small" argument is only ever from players who don't play enough to naturally adjust. So they don't get used to used to it and just fight with thing for the 30 minutes they will play that week...
You should try Maple,pao Ferro,Rosewood and Indian Laurell on the exact same guitar. Just take the neck of and put on the same body. Cant do a more fair compare than that.
I’m loving these two series! I think Fender finally got the right balance of price and specs with a nice choice of vintage or modern! Feel I need to buy every guitar and model in both of these! Currently own a vintera Jazzmaster and an original series tele!
The sea foam green and maple neck combination looks amazing on the 50s vintera! Sounds great too. Pete and Captain have some great skills. Am really enjoying your videos, thanks for that!
Pete has been watching Trolgys Video haha! Nice knowing about the info of the Tommi Iommi Guitar and Rickenbackers having lackered rosewood fingerboards. Nice!!
So much better than the rather-too-usual descent in schoolboyish daftness which can use up around 25% od a typical Andertons review session. This is focussed, fun and very informative. Good job. Danish Pete's demo of the Vintera has convinced me. Wasn't it Ritchie Blackmore or Jimmy Page who was credited with making most early use of the 'inbetween' tones -- or have I mis-remembered that? (ie: make right balls up memory-wise).
Thanks for keeping all of us quarantined, sane (mostly)... Btw I bought a Japanese Fender Strat in the early eighties and it still had a 3 way switch. I had to get Robbie Gladwell to fit a 5 way upon my return from Tokyo. Best, Pete. PS Andertons should open a branch just across the Hudson in New Jersey. - like Westfield. NYC is uselessly expensive.
In the opener, we had a classic throw-down where the technical abilities between the two protagonists (antagonists?) has closed to a very narrow gap! Pete really had to dig in on this one. Cap'n Lee is now right on him! Great intro guys!
I have a 57 Vintage Strat and a 62 as well. I have yet to find any new strat that sounds like them. They come close but there is a mellowness in the old ones that the new ones don't have. I like the neck on my 62 a bit better than the 57, but both are really nice. I don't gig with either of them, I use a new American Special instead.
The 50s American Originals is the best sounding guitar I have ever played in that price range but you can see how Lee struggled a bit to find how to play it since it is quite far away from modern strats but once he got into it, it sounded amazing.
Just for the statistics: while in the video „Full Walk-through Of The New Gibson - Namm 2020“ RePeter’s average repetition rate was 1 Yes (or Yeah, Right, True et cetera variation) every 12 seconds, in this shooting it‘s 1 Yes every 23 seconds. Rob‘s rate lies at approximately 1 Yes every 15 minutes (= 900 seconds) which most likely makes him a less qualified confirmer of Lee‘s statements. Is this the reason why linguistically very creative Rob was replaced by RePeter? What do you guys think? Any idea? Do me a favor, and let me know.
"Happy accidents"
"Like all my kids"
😂Danish Pete at it again
Happy accident seemed to have gone right over Lee's head :-)
Came here straight after seeing it.. and knew this would be here! Gutted Lee missed it.
Here's a video idea! You guys are the undisputed kings of the shootouts. What if you take a Squier Classic Vibe, a Made in Mexico vintera series, a USA reissue, a custom shop, and an actual vintage guitar (all based in the same decade, presumably 50s or 60s) and do a blindfold test. I think that would be a super interesting video and a good way to go straight up the line. Throw me a 👍if you agree!
Excellent idea! I’m looking at the classic Vibe and would be curious how they compared to those other models and an original.
winner? 90s MIJ Squier
Neck profiles are noticeably different between those models, except maybe custom shop and an actual vintage guitar, won't be much of a challenge in terms of playing them. The sound however...
They already have ....
Oh believe me I’ve tried most of those and an owner of original 60s .. that thick c shape neck and everything about original is just amazing!! The others are great too but 60s original and real non reissue are like lifting Thor’s milnor
“Here is hopefully a very quick video” 30 minutes long
All jokes aside great video
Once we start there's no stopping us... Glad you enjoyed the video!
@@andertons there is no necessity to stop you...
Please make them longer! What else have we got do?? What’s that.. “use the time to practise more”???
I Don’t even care about the guitars anymore, that intro jam is just too good!
Glad you enjoyed our playing! 😉
This is the truth!
Pete looked like a proud dad when Lee was ripping it better than ever! 😄
@@andertons Hi captain! Thank you so much for all the videos you've been posting since the start of the lockdown.
That's an amazing intro.. Release an album!
The Captain and Pete! No better way to start the morning! Great intro as well!
Glad your enjoying the videos... Thanks for tuning in! 🤘
The funny thing with Pete jammin' is that once it's time for him to play backing track you can just tell he's wondering about stuff like.. "did i lock the door this morning?" or "did i water the plants?".. then suddenly he can just pop off in the most amazing solos. What a guy.
I kid you not I spent 12 years writing a solo that’s not even as good as Pete’s intro
I don’t even particularly like Strats but before I even started watching the video I knew I wanted the shell pink American Original 60s one! 😍
That’s guitar is definitely sweet.
I didn’t either, or so I thought. I played a PRS since 2001. But when I got a *good* strat, there really is a certain magic to them. They’re not the easiest to play compared to others, & they’re a pretty lousy choice for metal shredding with modern alternatives, but there is something undeniably amazing when you’re chugging out tones like in the beginning of this video. They’re super dynamic instruments, and you can get the sweetest quiet sounds or if you snap the strings like you want to break them they’ll just wail and thump. It just feels like a much more engaging and ‘connected’ instrument than my other electrics, and the clarity on all the pickups with all the chimey overtones is soooo good.
Before the 5 way, many folks stuffed a match stick in the slot, to jam the switch between positions on the 3way, getting a tone similar to what the 5way sounds like now.
Way before the 5-way switch players modded their strats so that the lower tone control would actually be a separate volume control wired into the middle pickup, and the bridge and neck would be wired to the 3-way switch just like in a telecaster. This would give you not just the middle positions, but also neck+bridge and all three. It was called the Memphis wiring, though it's very possible that it has other names too.
Now very tempted to try this. Hadn't heard of it, thanks for sharing.
I fitted a push/pull on my strat that adds the bridge pickup, so can get some interesting tones. (The Gilmour Mod)
Ive done that to both my strats...Emerson & 920D make kits
@@DVHEllis Emerson & 920D make kits...( with a master tone)... very useful
@@DVHEllis look up Hendrix wiring. Similar, with a blend pot to bring in the middle pickup.
"No mistakes; only happy accidents." - Bob Ross, the legend
I agree with Lee when it comes to being able to feel the fretboard when doing bends, vibrato etc. It’s especially noticeable if a guitar has large/block inlays. I try and play as light as possible but do have to grip a bend.
I now instantly want a surf green vintera, stunning
I ended up buying one its fantastic
@Charles Grun lol no one cares
that's Seafoam green
now the new Road Worn series has nitro!
@@downshift00 I got one of those as my first good guitar :)
I love the shell pink one
I think we all do... 😉
It seems like a brighter, more pink, tone than we usually think of when we see shell pink
Salmon pink 56 Strat is the dream one. Like Hank’s.
I have one!! 😍
@@MrSiddartha1 me too! \0/
First principle - No two guitars sound the same regardless of whether they are identical in every observable way.
That understood, real vintage ‘50s and ‘60s Strats generally sound very different in the vast majority of instances. As you mentioned, the body wood changed from Ash to Alder in ‘56 and the pickups were constantly but subtly evolving. By ’61 they were distinctly mellower, ’62 being what many consider the optimum Strat pickup. Neck profiles and thickness from ‘50s thicker to ’60s thinner, changed the mass of the neck and this was greatly influential on the sound of the guitars.
Experience has shown that rosewood vs. maple fingerboards regarding brightness of tone is a myth. Blind trials and experience have shown that there is no consistent or predictable tonal difference between a rosewood and a maple fingerboard on a Fender guitar. I have heard and played Strats and Teles with rosewood boards that were brighter than those with maple boards and vicey versey. While the neck as a whole is highly influential on the tone and resonance of a guitar, the fingerboard wood apparently does not affect the brightness of any particular guitar very much or at all. They do feel different to play, however, and whichever you prefer, that’s the one for you. Tonally though, not really a factor. As for lacquer on the board, Pete, I’m skeptical. I’d like to see a blind comparison.
Also; yes, a properly set up 7.25” radius neck will not fret out unless you intend to do 1½ step bends and such. Very low action is not a good idea, anyway. In many instances, slightly raising the action (and lowering the pickups) improves tone and sustain, but that’s another discussion.
Lockdowns been good for cap’s playing :D
The thing that would make me pay for even the cheapest US Fender is if they'd offer custom options like color and fingerboard wood... For instance... A Pink Shell body is nice... But if I want one with a maple fingerboard I have to really search hard and pay up or go partscaster
Finally a strat video
We can't forget about the Strats...
😄
I've always thought that I preferred the 60s Strats, but I really like the sound of the 50s ones better in this one.
Their vintera series is outstanding! I'd love if fender released a 60s Beatles strat (light blue)
Lee you have really quickly gotten so much more expressive with your playing! What's the secret?!
He had lessons with Justin from JustinGuitar.
True bypass switching
It's the Herco plectrum. Any fool can see that.
William Cohen He’s not actually playing. The have a stunt guitar double.
Watching this in 2024 and my first thought was "why would they film it like this!?". Then I remembered. What a strange time it was.
Love my '54 reissue, but I want a 60s someday to feel complete.
I got a 50s spec and it’s everything I wanted compared to my Player series strat (although I love my player).
I’ve heard the differences, both are great but I certainly feel that nothing beats that original 54 sound
Pick fingerboards based on what you think looks best. Our eyes deceive us, everyone thinks rosewood is darker and warmer sounding because the color is dark and warm. In reality no one could distinguish the sound between rosewood and maple in a blind test.
Many of the songs recorded in the 60's, were actually played with guitars (strats and teles) from the 50's. Some artists preferred a guitar with some wear.
I went for the 60's, and I'm glad I did.... and yes, the nitro finish on the AO's is easy to ding to bare wood, even with the poly undercoat. First flake popped off near the strap button while swapping them for strap-locks.
Though I think it is cool to have a worn strat, it would break my heart to get those first few dings on a new instrument.
I perceive a little bit of darkness in the sound in almost all the videos, or maybe I'm used to hearing strats with a lot of high end? I'm 1 click from buying one of these, but I would like an opinion on this matter.
LIKE MY KIDS!!! DAMNN PETE!!! 9:04
It's really strange for me since the late 80s when I started playing I always loved the thick warm bridge humbucker sound recently I do t know why the thin single coil of a strat I don't know I like it I suddenly like the thin metallic sound I really have got to get a strat now I'm itching it's the placement of the volume knob that I guess I'll have to get more comfortable with but oh my goodness that sound even clean
Maturing as a player. See it a lot. Chose tone not noise. Strat first then a tele. Sonic heaven. 👍
Remove the neck pickup tone pot, wire all the pickups to the remaining tone pot, and move the volume pot down a spot. That's how my Warmoth strat is set up (with push/pull pots in both spots, one to split my humbuckers and one for a midboost circuit that came with my Ghost piezo system). I have both wired as volumes though, one electric and one piezo.
I was thinking that very thing alright thanks I appreciate it
Also, your hearing changes a lot with age too
I’m just amazed at that one long sentence
Watching Anderton’s always gives me a Sunday afternoon playing guitar with a cuppa vibe
Sounds like the best vibe to have... 😉
It just hit me when they were talking about the 50s Strats, man that was 70 years ago!!
I have heard that Eric Clapton discovered that he could use a match to lock the other positions. That was with Derec and the dominoes with his brownie.
Yeah I have seen a doco where clapton talks about doing it. Makes sense that Hendrix also did it though... took years for fender to make the switch though
l'll stick with my Squier.
Loved the intro jam btw
Squier guitars definitely have a lot to give... Great instrument to start mod & progress with! Glad you enjoyed the video. 🤘
@Klaus Ebner Classic Player series (made in mexico) back in the day were excellent for the price as well. Some people say the best guitars that ever came out of the Mexican factory, at least up to that point.
I've got an Indonesian Squier Telecaster I bought in the 90s and a new Player strat built in Mexico. There is a big uplift in quality and sound. However, I can't see there being much of a difference between a guitar built in Mexico and one built a couple of hundred miles further north in the USA (often by Mexican workers) with the same pickups and hardware. Vintera and the Mexican made Fenders can be BETTER quality than the US ones.
@@andertons my first guitar was actually a 16 year old epiphone custom shop 59 Les Paul that I bought from you guys last summer. Brilliant guitar with plenty of punch
I don't think you can get better value than the classic vibe. Great instrument at a reasonable price.
i own a fender 50s clasic strat, i guess it's the predecessor to the vintera series, or fender just renamed the classic series to vintera. it's the best guitar i own, though it's not the most expensive one. the 7,25" radius is something one has to become used to though, the v-shape of the neck just feels perfect though. mine doesn't have the tone control for the bridge pickup though, only middle and neck.
According to Billy Gibbons it was Jimi Hendrix who showed him how to remove the detente screws in the 3-way switch and allow it to play "out of phase" as they called it in those days. That would have been in the late 60's when they opened for Hendrix, '68-'69.
DPete - you're a monster
Great video! The Vintera's definitely sound better and closer to the originals!
60's are definitely warmer and fuller, at least in this video. I think that is 100% due to a combination of the pickups being wound differently and the rosewood fretboard.
It’s unhealthy how much I hate brand new instruments that have been relic’d. There’s no character to it, like a 60 year old guitar that’s seen the road more than the average human. It’s just sad that vintage and beat up is a selling point on brand new instruments. When they’re not vintage, nor naturally beat up.
I've been playing my first ever guitar a lot recently. It's 25 years old, it's been thrown around the back of vans, dropped, played (obviously) and it still looks relatively new. Relicking is like someone might imagine an old guitar to look but not really how they do look.
“A happy accident. Just like my kids 👀” 😂😂😂 that was way too under the radar of a comment! 😂 well done. Love you guys together!
why cant i have both 50s and 60s strats? they're great in their own right but if you insist ima take the 50s cuz they're cooler and ima take it in the seafoam green one gotta love that one
Please get your hands of a vintage 50s Strat Lee, we can both agree we want to see one in your hands !
My daughter hopes Birthday & Christmas comes together this year. The Pink Strat! Just because it's pink!
I'm a boy, but I'd love someone to give me that pink Strat for my birthday next week. I'm old enough to know Santa is ( shhhhh ).
Smaller necks hurt my wrist. Your pinching is a tighter pinch the smaller the neck. Naturally if the neck is wider the distance between your finger tips and thumb is further so a little less stress on your muscles.
Love those Strats, but I still LOVE my G&L.
Yes please, more of these kinds of videos. loved it.
Thanks for tuning in... Glad you enjoyed it!
Please do a video on the Eric Johnson Signature Strat (just regular artist series one)! Would love to see it compared with an American Original 50's since they are very similar in specs. Curious if the V-neck is more pronounced, how the pick-ups sound in comparison, any other differences
That 50's Vintera MIM in the surf green green is intriguing at half the cost of the US original series with the maple fingerboard.
The intro was like I shot the sheriff and right next door from Robert Cray thrown together
I think the lower bass output on the 50s makes the mids and highs come out more, which makes it sound a bit more inyaface. 60s has a warmer, fuller sound to my ears, but I’d probably take the 50s in a band situation.
I thought you guys did an admirable job discussing the nuanced differences of both the two decades but also the two lines. I appreciate the honesty you consistently display given the position you hold in the industry. Thanks again from Long Beach, CA. 🤠
Oh my... That outro 🔥
Glad you liked it... 😉
Back in the 60s when I was touring with a band I had a 59 strat with a slab rosewood board.Often aftersetting up and getting a balance I'd swap guitars with the lead player in other groups just to compare set ups and sounds.The General opinion among other Strat players was that mine sounded much brighter ....they generally had later models...with rosewood boards.This leads me to believe that the difference was because of the pickups.
Wow you had a 59 strat cool stuff
imo 60s strats are so abused, like everyone out here sounding like hendrix and srv. 50s strat sound got lost in the mix somewhere
Late 60s/70s strats never get recognition because they are CBS and made worse at the time but thats later Hendrix, Gilmour, The Edge, Clapton etc the biggest strat users.
Is it correct that in the 60s you could choose between a rosewood or maple fretboard as said at 25:55? I've never see a 60s strat with a maple board.
Great video as always!
You could special order a maple fretboard at some point after the early '60s. For an example of this, look up Bob Dylan and Robbie Robertson's black Telecaster.
5 way switches weren’t available until late 1977, I bought a early 1977 Stratocaster in March 1977, it had a 3 way switch but all black plastic. I remember being able to buy 5 way switches in guitar player magazine.
Ye gods. That intro jam was amazing.
I don't know what it is, but I've found I started to change my vibrato style when I play the Strat, and now I know where I got it from! Lee, you're contagious!
At my left ,the son of Brian Setzer and Leonardo Di Caprio.
Some very nice tones there! I'm a little older and my hands don't cooperate as well as they used to, I prefer the 7.25" radius these days. Single line leads seem easier with 9.5 and 12. Although I've never had an issue 'fretting out' on a 7.25. JMHO... --gary
Pete plays almost as good as Trogly
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That is a matter of opinion especially when playing styles are different, and opinions vary.
Trogly is a pathetic moron, who can play a wee tiny bit, but... Pete is an excellent (if slightly cynical) player.
Watched this video- played both- watched video again- checked bank account- purchased the 50s hahaha- ultimately I did find the 50s to have more "snap". Thanks, guys for persuading me to pickup a Vintera! Love it to bits and been loving all of Fender's MIM offerings- will come by the shop one day when I travel to the UK!
If you think you can feel the wood grain when you bend strings, that's just scratchy frets. Your strings never actually make contact with the fretboard, try it out.
It's another reason why it doesn't make sense that your fretboard material would affect the sound at all.
explain vintage 50’s strats with patina on the fretboard between all the most frequently used frets. your fingers touch the wood
@@bobzmuda3940 You didn't understand the context of what I was saying.
I never claimed your fingers don't touch the fretboard, that would be stupid lol. I was debunking the thought that fretboards with a lot of grain will "catch" the string and feel scratchy when you try to bend a note. Your fingers definitely touch the fretboard, your strings do not. If you think your guitar feels "scratchy" when you bend a note, it means you need to polish your frets.
@@TcSomers ah i see your point now. true yes, scratchy bends definitely could be your fret wire.
but what im sure theyre talking about, along with eric clapton and the way he described bending on rosewood vs maple, your fingers feel the grain of the rosewood, where as maple feels smoother on your finger tip while fretting and bending.
@@bobzmuda3940 I exclusively play Rosewood necks because I don't like the slick feeling of the finish on Maple. Ebony is nicer but I ain't that rich haha. But I've never once thought about the grain when I play, it's so unnoticeable ha.
@@TcSomers yeah i never cared either
Great vid! 50s for me i think. Look out Andertons, cant wait to get down to Guildford when these strange times end.
Thanks for watching... The '50s Strat is a great choice & has a real spank to the sound!
@@andertons Will be my first proper electric guitar 🎸 can't wait. Boss Katana amp too i think :)
Apparently players found the sweet spot between the 3 way switch pickups and fender took notice and added the in-betweens
To be honest I prefer the Mexican version since it has the most vintage tone comapring to the American ones.
I would choose a 2016 US standard one! Ash body, beautiful Sienna burst, smooth 22 fret neck with rounded fretboard edges. Half the price of a new one and I love that extra fret (being so used to Les Paul's) ;0)
the good news is theres a Stratocaster for everybody! Fender s never really gone down the wrong path unlike its Nashville counterpart, imho. With the Nashville guitars of the past decade u always kinda had to look out for the good model runs..... dude, I really had to track down my non-chambered Les Paul, I can tell ya :'D
I'm just glad Fender hasn't gone to 24 frets, makes the guitar look and sound different by pushing the pickups together and moving the neck pickup towards the bridge. 21 or 22, either is fine for me. I'm rarely up to the 22nd fret.
Hendrix used to take the spring out of the switch to get the "in between" sounds.
It's a "Pick guard" in USA lol. Keep up the good work.
What happened to the Captain's ears? they're all big and black...
And, everything sounds better with the Dane on
And, the "my hands are too small" argument is only ever from players who don't play enough to naturally adjust. So they don't get used to used to it and just fight with thing for the 30 minutes they will play that week...
Loved the Captain's solo at the end... wonderful feeling!
Comparing Intro and Outro, I go with the Intro = 50s.
I'm sorry but a shell pink strat is the absolute sexiest looking guitar that can be made.
jebusgod and add a tort pickguard
You should try Maple,pao Ferro,Rosewood and Indian Laurell on the exact same guitar. Just take the neck of and put on the same body. Cant do a more fair compare than that.
Get the Japanese Fender reissue 50s, 60s, then we're talking Lee... I had one, a ST62 reissue, all were period correct.
To my taste 60s improved neck and middle pick up a lot. Bridge one remained more or less the same.
I’m loving these two series! I think Fender finally got the right balance of price and specs with a nice choice of vintage or modern! Feel I need to buy every guitar and model in both of these! Currently own a vintera Jazzmaster and an original series tele!
Ha Im so dumb. I was looking at the thumbnail like SOS vs 60s. Wtf is an SOS?
The sea foam green and maple neck combination looks amazing on the 50s vintera! Sounds great too. Pete and Captain have some great skills. Am really enjoying your videos, thanks for that!
Thanks for watching, glad you're enjoying the videos!
Yeah, there is one at my local shop and its great! Big baseball bat of a neck!
Lots of players in the sixties - Clapton in particular - favoured jamming the blade between two positions for that bucked sound.
It was Eric Clapton. He would play in-between 1 and 2.
That's what I've always heard. I don't know if he's ever confirmed that.
George Harrison used paper matches in order to jam the switch so it gave you two pickups.
Pete: who bends up that far?
Dave Gilmour: Am I dead to you?
SRV,Albert king
Pete has been watching Trolgys Video haha! Nice knowing about the info of the Tommi Iommi Guitar and Rickenbackers having lackered rosewood fingerboards. Nice!!
The captain is becoming a fine guitar player. Bravo.
'50s or '60s? Very easy choice: both! 😁
So much better than the rather-too-usual descent in schoolboyish daftness which can use up around 25% od a typical Andertons review session.
This is focussed, fun and very informative.
Good job. Danish Pete's demo of the Vintera has convinced me.
Wasn't it Ritchie Blackmore or Jimmy Page who was credited with making most early use of the 'inbetween' tones -- or have I mis-remembered that? (ie: make right balls up memory-wise).
Thanks for keeping all of us quarantined, sane (mostly)... Btw I bought a Japanese Fender Strat in the early eighties and it still had a 3 way switch. I had to get Robbie Gladwell to fit a 5 way upon my return from Tokyo. Best, Pete. PS Andertons should open a branch just across the Hudson in New Jersey. - like Westfield. NYC is uselessly expensive.
Hendrix actually discovered the in between sounds #shout
In the opener, we had a classic throw-down where the technical abilities between the two protagonists (antagonists?) has closed to a very narrow gap! Pete really had to dig in on this one. Cap'n Lee is now right on him! Great intro guys!
Vinteras are genuinely badass
Danish Pete is such a nice person! And Gosh.. what a musician!
Definitely! His personality always shines as does his musicianship!
God I want that shell pink strat more than I want my next breath
got my pink one yesterday. great guitars!
Seymour Duncan is the guy charge for the change from 3 way switch to 5. He did it for Hendrix 🤘🏻
Breaking News! Stats look and sound like Strats! Lol great vid guys!
Love your jams. what a wonderful way to sell a guitar and to sell the FUN of playing guitar. Keep them up please.
Glad you enjoyed the video!
Hey guys, great vid - I love my 60s c neck. Did you record this using the Universal Audio OX ?
I have a 57 Vintage Strat and a 62 as well. I have yet to find any new strat that sounds like them. They come close but there is a mellowness in the old ones that the new ones don't have. I like the neck on my 62 a bit better than the 57, but both are really nice. I don't gig with either of them, I use a new American Special instead.
The 50s American Originals is the best sounding guitar I have ever played in that price range but you can see how Lee struggled a bit to find how to play it since it is quite far away from modern strats but once he got into it, it sounded amazing.
@@DougMen1 Not to mention he owns several strats including a cs 54 which he said has a similar neck to the AO50s neck :)
Totally agree with Pete on the Vintera compared to the sunburst Lee was playing. Great vid, guys!!
If only those Vintera series ones had a nitro finishes
They wouldn't sell americans!
They used to to it under the classic series name, I have one
Just for the statistics: while in the video „Full Walk-through Of The New Gibson - Namm 2020“ RePeter’s average repetition rate was 1 Yes (or Yeah, Right, True et cetera variation) every 12 seconds, in this shooting it‘s 1 Yes every 23 seconds. Rob‘s rate lies at approximately 1 Yes every 15 minutes (= 900 seconds) which most likely makes him a less qualified confirmer of Lee‘s statements. Is this the reason why linguistically very creative Rob was replaced by RePeter? What do you guys think? Any idea? Do me a favor, and let me know.