One Of The Best Handling Cars Of All Time Is Ignored, Why? Lotus Europa

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  • @Number27
    @Number27  ปีที่แล้ว +6

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  • @argo1argo1
    @argo1argo1 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Drove a Europa Special in JPS colours out of Hethel 50 years ago in 1973. Still have it in original paint and it still puts a smile on my face whenever I drive it.

    • @rogerhudson9732
      @rogerhudson9732 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's sometimes called a 'fag packet' car. Chapman hated smoking but loved the money.

  • @fortijr
    @fortijr ปีที่แล้ว +102

    I had a 1969 Renault powered one. Everything you said about the handling is 100% spot on, but being 30 years old I put good rubber on it and literally freaked out my car guy friends. Mine had a wonderful gearbox feel once I changed to very good gear oil. I had a Renault specialist build a copy Gordini engine for significantly more power. 2 coolest memories; you can literally pick up the engine or transmission in your arms and it was so low I could drive under parking garage gates … again great reactions from my buddies.

    • @Snarge22
      @Snarge22 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I live in the US and own a Alfa Romeo GTV6. Once on a club drive two fellas in a Europa joined us. When the car was ahead of me I could cleanly see over the roof while sitting in my car. The Europa is seriously low! 😀

    • @philipethier9136
      @philipethier9136 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Snarge22 When I was standing next to my Lotus 65 Europa, the top of the roof was the level of my belt buckle.

    • @john1703
      @john1703 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Snarge22 42.5" - only a bit more (2") than a GT40

    • @robertamoyaw8812
      @robertamoyaw8812 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are the Europa Man!!!!😂

    • @robertamoyaw8812
      @robertamoyaw8812 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Snarge22 you were following a Flying Saucer 😂

  • @vernonbennettiii3646
    @vernonbennettiii3646 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I grew up in a very modest working class neighborhood on the East Side of Kalamazoo, Michigan, USA. Back in 1969/1970, one of my neighbors up the street had a red Lotus Europa, that I thought was the coolest thing that I had ever seen. That is until I saw, 2 blocks away, another neighbor's TVR. WOW! In hindsight, I cannot imagine how either of those guys could have afforded either of those cars, at least living in my neighborhood. But, man, Those vehicles had a huge impact on my taste in automobiles.

    • @johnmatthews1095
      @johnmatthews1095 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      brilliant

    • @GBURGE55
      @GBURGE55 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have a 1992 TVR 290 S3 which I've owned for nearly 21 year's. I was attended a classic car show in the south of England last weekend & there was a red perfectly restored S2 Europa. The owner was letting people sit in it, including me. It was the most cramped car I've ever been in. I thought my TVR was small enough!

  • @parrotraiser6541
    @parrotraiser6541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    It was actually a tough little beast. A drunken acquaintce of a friend lost it at speed and demolished a substantial length of a low decorative wall. Though the passenger was unconscious for some time, they both survived. The chassis had taken the brunt of the wall, while the body essentially exploded to absorb much of the energy. (Glass-fibre bodies tend to sacrifice themselves in that way, to the benefit of the riders.)

    • @mJC2521
      @mJC2521 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not if you have a side impact.

    • @andrewpreston4127
      @andrewpreston4127 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Quite a surprise to me. Colin Chapman was famed for ‘building in lightness’, and as I recall was blamed for taking it too far after Jim Clark was killed in a Lotus in 1968.

    • @mrdainase
      @mrdainase ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@andrewpreston4127 No, he wasn't. Clark's accident was put down to a deflating rear tyre. But Chapman was certainly guilty of walking a fine line with lightening components with more regard to winning races than driver safety.

    • @dissol1306
      @dissol1306 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@andrewpreston4127 no, Chapman was not blamed for Clark’s death, although many drivers (including Moss) eventually walked away from Lotus, because of the focus on lightness, which in turn had a negative impact (pardon the pun) on driver safety. Famously, Moss was given a cake in the shape of his Lotus for a birthday at a race meeting, and he immediately cut off a wheel and offered it to Chapman as he felt a 3 wheeled car was more apt. Chapman was reportedly unimpressed.

    • @terryjacob8169
      @terryjacob8169 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@dissol1306 'Chunky' was distinctly unimpressed with the wheel-shaped piece of cake Stirling handed him at the party after the 1960 US GP at Riverside, California ( race won by Moss ). Earlier in the year Stirling had spent several weeks in hospital after a rear wheel came off his Lotus 18 at high speed during practice for the 1960 Belgian GP at Spa.

  • @andyelliott8027
    @andyelliott8027 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    That steering,handling and control on the bumps is Colin Chapman's influence, the man was a genius. It took other (super) car makers decades to get to his level.

  • @Telssa1
    @Telssa1 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I had a 1970 S2 for about 15 years of madness. Handling was unbelievable. I came off a (then) murky roundabout at nearly 50, but (mistakenly) into a 90 degree turn with a stone wall straight in front of me, instead of the gentle main road exit I was expecting. Hardly any other car in the world would have taken that turn, though I was on two wheels, at about 30 degrees until it banged down back to earth.

    • @RexKarrs
      @RexKarrs 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I had a '70 S2 in Phoenix, AZ in the mid-'80s. Very fun to drive when it ran, which wasn't that often. Only an early 911 with worn shift bushings has a more vague-feeling gearchange. My 6' height wasn't a problem, but my big feet were, as the pedals are closer together than it seems. No A/C, so not too practical for Phoenix in the summer. I liked the breadvan styling of the earlier Europas better than the semi-pickup style of the later ones. Very low, scary at traffic lights when staring right into the differential pumpkin of a 4x4 truck in front of you - don't throw it into reverse, cowboy! In true Lotus fashion, it died by self-immolation at a red light in south Phoenix. Burned to the ground. I miss it, but then again I don't.

  • @georgecronin3592
    @georgecronin3592 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Loved these cars when doing my apprenticeship on cars. Helped build a lotus elan to save purchase tax in 1970. The man you spoke about was Ron Hickman, I worked on his house in Jersey in 1985. A true eccentric genius, and lovely gentleman.

  • @richardsellers8671
    @richardsellers8671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    The Lotus/Ford engine variants look vastly better to my eyes, particularly in dark colours, the JPS Black and Gold scheme is particularly nice.

    • @brianweekes1
      @brianweekes1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agree 100%!!

    • @roberthill2219
      @roberthill2219 ปีที่แล้ว

      What was that movie with a wild car chase staring a JPS Europa?

    • @jimestall413
      @jimestall413 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@roberthill2219 11 Harrowhouse.

    • @bobmcl2406
      @bobmcl2406 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the substitution of better wheels (just wider, or maybe more offset too?) did a lot for the looks of the Specials.

    • @jimestall413
      @jimestall413 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bobmcl2406 Along with the chrome trim strip and panel trim under the doors and pin stripes.

  • @AB-dx9hd
    @AB-dx9hd ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Many thanks Jack for a well prepared and engaging video review. The Europa was designed by Ron Hickman (Black and Decker Workmate inventor) as a Grand Prix based mid-engined road car with a backbone chassis, but the aerodynamic (Cd 0.29) body was styled by John Frayling. The S1 (type 46) with 78bhp 1470cc Renault 16 engine and four speed transaxle first went on sale in France in 1967. It had no opening windows, push button door releases, and an integral chassis. The S2 (type 54) introduced in 1968 had electric windows, Jaguar XJ6 door handles, and a removable chassis. The Federal S2 (type 65) went on sale in America in 1969 with 82bhp 1565cc Renault 16TS engine. The twin-cam (type 74) with 105bhp Elan engine replaced the S2 in 1971. The big valve 126bhp Elan Sprint engine and five speed Renault 17TS transaxle were fitted in 1972. There are no Chapman (McPherson) struts on a Europa; rear suspension is trailing arms with lower links, upper links (the driveshafts), and coil over dampers. Although there is less roll in a Europa, a 2-seater Elan is just as fast from A to B. A Europa is the same width as an Elan+2, ride is a little better than a 2-seater Elan (longer wheelbase), and on a motorway there is less interior noise at speed.

    • @SuperLuckyCat7
      @SuperLuckyCat7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Are YOU in the knowledge or... 🤣 Way impressive Anorak facts though - thx 4 sharing 👨‍💻❤

    • @MrSpanks
      @MrSpanks ปีที่แล้ว

      I can't even tell the difference between Chapman and McPherson struts!!

    • @ChrisTurner-jd4hr
      @ChrisTurner-jd4hr หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MrSpanks I think they are two names for the same thing. Usually after a discussion about who came up with the idea first; Mr McPherson at Ford or Mr Chapman at Lotus. In any case Mr B-dx9hd is correct, there are none on a Europa.

  • @jimestall413
    @jimestall413 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I've owned my Europa Special virtually from new. I'd say it has the edge over it's peer, the Elan Sprint which I also own. More rubber on the road giving slightly more grip. Acceleration identical. Steering even better. At 5ft 8in I have to move the seat forward. Mike Kimberly redesigned the Europa with the Twin Cam so that he could fit in it. Mike is well over 6ft plus.

  • @TimBentley
    @TimBentley ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Nice summary of a great car. I've had an early Renault car (but upgraded to the crossflow unit from a 16TS) for about 7 years. I'm biased, but I reckon an early car with a crossflow transplant is the one to have - similar power to a Twin Cam, but lighter. The Twink is a great engine (love it in my Elan), but it's installed backwards in a Europa and everything is hard to get at. The gearshift does take some getting used to, but it makes an enormous difference if all the linkages (there are multiple heim joints and pivots) have been renewed and the original rubber socket for the gear lever replaced with a heim joint. The footwell is very narrow - I wear racing boots to drive it and that makes a big difference. The steering is unbeatable - there is literally nothing on the road that can come close. You can also bolt some modern sticky tyres on and get incredible road holding - easily the equal of any modern sports car - but at the cost of ride quality and steering feel. I prefer to drive it with period style tyres, keep the great ride, and have fun at road legal speeds. And even on period tyres my car has kept up with Exiges and 911s on a twisty road - an important factor is the small size, which even on a narrow road lets you place the car on an ideal line in corners.

  • @fmhb1
    @fmhb1 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    From Malcolm Bell, my father after watching your video:
    So I didn’t waste my time sorting out the handling of this little beast. In original twin cam form it was a nightmare but Roger Becker and I eventually sorted it out. The picture on the banking at MIRA flat out shows its serious understeer and a backend losing interest.
    On the bumpy Norfolk roads it was lethal over about seventy and we spent a lot of time making it ride properly as this man discovered.
    I was always disappointed with the Press reports, we thought it was brilliant and all the journalists did was knock its appearance and said it wasn’t as good as an Elan. This was in my view much better. As this man says, a good long distance car.
    I ran one with a half race big valve engine which would do an indicated 130mph and Mum went to sleep in it on the old A1 at something over 100 from Scotch Corner to Stamford!

    • @MrMairu555
      @MrMairu555 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Always cool to have an insight from one of the engineers involved withf the project.

    • @PiefacePete46
      @PiefacePete46 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Frederick Bell : Are you sure Mum hadn't fainted?! 😵 🥴

  • @Laz_Arus
    @Laz_Arus ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thanks for the trip down memory lane Jack. I had an S1 with the Renault 16TS engine here in OZ for about 18 months back in the early 70's and enjoyed it immensely. Many a time my passenger would go white with fear thanks to the car's legendary handling. As you discovered the steering is "telepathic" and I haven't experienced anything close to it since. In hindsight, I should have held onto it, but the fragility of it on our roads meant it wasn't suitable for a daily driver, and I was forever tightening bolts that had loosened.

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the BMW´s 02 from the 70´s were also driven like this but with enough room for two people ,not equal but similar ,also have to add that i install on a 1,6 L engine (one carburator)1502 (only in Portugal) a pair of professional shock absorvents on the front for the 2002, and it turned perfect .One drives almost sitting on the floor and one feels like the wheels are above your body level , the most similar to europa type of driving

  • @seantetarenko4334
    @seantetarenko4334 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I am biased because I own one, however yours is on of the best reviews I’ve seen of a Europa. Very fair and balanced in your opinions as always. Thanks Jack

    • @playbackamusicloversjourne8620
      @playbackamusicloversjourne8620 ปีที่แล้ว

      I owned a '73 twin cam for 5 years. Great car to drive. Enjoy yours!

    • @smudgetherealmc
      @smudgetherealmc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also biased. Owned a S2 in the 1980s and would love to get behind the wheel of one again some day

    • @savage22bolt32
      @savage22bolt32 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've wanted one since I first saw one in 1970 (+/- a yr). In 2022, I had the chance to sit in one. I still love them, but no longer have the desire to own one. I feel better in a larger automobile.

    • @jozsefizsak
      @jozsefizsak ปีที่แล้ว

      My good friend bought a Renault engined one in the 60s when it was the current model. I've loved those cars ever since and I don't need to tell you why!

    • @savage22bolt32
      @savage22bolt32 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jozsefizsak your friend owned a bakery that made quick deliveries?!?!

  • @robertcole8311
    @robertcole8311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I had the Renault R16 version in my possession for about a year in the mid-1970s. Chrome yellow like your test car. Jack, I agree with everything you said about it, except the gear change. That was fine on my example, yes a bit stiff and notchy, but no issue finding the desired gear. The steering, handling and ride were exactly as you described and left me similarly tongue-tied. Brilliant fun to drive, though the low height and absence of rear 3/4 visibility made it a bit terrifying in traffic on congested US six lane streets. I simply learned to not change lanes in the city. A thrill to drive in every sense. Also learned not to drive it in mid summer sunny afternoons. That big raked windscreen, black vinyl interior, and 90+ degree Fahrenheit temps on the US Great Plains made a dandy oven. Jack, thanks for the test and bringing back fond memories.

    • @peterbonnez
      @peterbonnez ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Renault in Yellow here too. There was a long high speed left hander on my way to work. 100 mph & I'd just think it round the bend, my hands didn't move. Uncanny. Drove it to Spain & back UK, rallied it, sprinted it & I had Bee Gees in the 8 track. The most comfy car I've ever owned, slept in it many times. I loved that car.

    • @andrewnorris5415
      @andrewnorris5415 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peterbonnez wow, two awesome stories of satisfied owners who got the most from their cars. The soft suspension on Lotus models did make them up for longer adventures!

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@peterbonnez i had the 16TS , what a great car ,but metalized blue paint

    • @robertcole8311
      @robertcole8311 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andrewnorris5415 I didn’t actually own it. Belonged to a friend who moved 400 miles away and had no place to keep it so he left it in my care for a year with instructions to drive it and repair whatever needed fixing. I was happy to do so and felt fortunate, plus the car was reliable then other than various fasteners coming adrift.

    • @philipkozloff3832
      @philipkozloff3832 ปีที่แล้ว

      Like you, Robert, I had a Chrome Yellow R16 S2 Europa that I privately imported from the factory in late 1970. Maybe yours was mine. I absolutely adored it. I fixed the problem of high-speed steering lightness in the first few months I owned it. Over 100 MPH, it felt like the front wheels were barely touching the ground. I mounted a sheet metal inverted wing under the air intake opening in front of the cross-member ahead of the wheels and that cured the front-end lift. The engine was quite robust but strangled by the stock Solex carbueretor and cast-iron single piece combination intake and exhaust manifold. I replaced that with a dual barrel Weber carb, longer intake manifold and long big bore exhaust pipes. 0-60 in 6 seconds. Those two modest changes transformed the car. After a few minor adjustments to the shifter linkage, the gear box was nothing but sweet! I only sold the car when I had to move to New York City six years later where it would have lasted about three days. But I sold it for 120% of its new, shipped cost so it that softened the blow somewhat. If you look at modern mid-engine sports cars, they all look like my Europa with some cosmetic surgery and massive injections of steroids. For instance, the rear window looked like a letter slot to some people. They all come like that now. And why not? The rear visibility was terrific.

  • @kevinokephoto
    @kevinokephoto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for the video. You describe the experience well. The one car I will never sell is my 1970 Europa S2. Just fabulous to drive for whatever reason.

  • @hvh377
    @hvh377 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Hi Jack, you have had a great run with the Lotuses recently. Loved them all. The Europa is very special and I like it very much. To me, it is beautiful, but I can see how opinions are divided on the styling. As a rather 'burly bloke' and standing 6'5" tall with size 13 feet, I'm never going to experience the pleasure of driving a car like this. You put the experience into words very well. Thanks again for bringing us this lovely Lotus. Great fan of the Workmate too!

    • @zzhughesd
      @zzhughesd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s just not the one eyes enjoy

    • @jimestall413
      @jimestall413 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@zzhughesd it's distinctive styling is one of the factors that make it so unique.

    • @TimBentley
      @TimBentley ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Twin Cam body was redesigned for taller drivers - the 6'5" Mike Kimberley was the project lead and he could fit...

    • @hvh377
      @hvh377 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TimBentley I didn't know that. Thanks. So, there is hope for me yet. However, the excess is not necessarily limited to the vertical dimension only. Colin Chapman's famous ethos was not applied to me personally and that cockpit does look quite small to me.

    • @dissol1306
      @dissol1306 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@hvh377 you will have to take your shoes off, but I always found that driving Lotuses was benefited by driving them barefoot, as especially on the limit, it responds better to tiny inputs.

  • @gazzafloss
    @gazzafloss ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The "wooden spoon in a bowl of porridge" feel of the gearshift mechanism is very fixable on a Europa. A mate had a '69 model in about 1970, he was able with a bit of clever "retro engineering" to both shorten the gear stick throw and eliminate the sloppy feeling, gear changing became superb and "bolt in hole" positive. Nice review again Jack.

    • @johnsmith1474
      @johnsmith1474 ปีที่แล้ว

      What did he do? Big secret?

    • @PiefacePete46
      @PiefacePete46 ปีที่แล้ว

      @GnP BF : I too had a mate who modified his gearshift... It worked as you described, but it rattled over bumps, and buzzed at high revs. Not as well executed as your mates?

    • @gazzafloss
      @gazzafloss ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PiefacePete46 well he was an Engineer at a brewery all those years back, knew his stuff, I really don't know how he actually did it exactly. I know it improved the shifting out of sight from what it was when I first drove it, probably changed the spongy rubber bushings to solid nylon in all the remote mechanism and improved the leverage ratios, maybe reinforced the relay rod from shift to the gear selector shaft, all stuff we had talked about, everything was so lightly built and flexed a lot. That little Lotus "buzzed" a lot anyway just ripping down the road as I remember it, lots of clunking on uneven surfaces Can't ask the guy as that was over 50 years ago and he's been gone from this mortal coil a while now.

    • @PiefacePete46
      @PiefacePete46 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gazzafloss : That would explain a lot!... looking back, the last thing I would call my friend was "Engineer"! 🥴

    • @awalk5177
      @awalk5177 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The rose joints need to be without wear and set up to the correct dimensions, then the gear change is precise. I haven't had any problems with mine in the type 54, I have owned for almost 50 years. One of the few original type 54's left in UK.

  • @terryhand
    @terryhand 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I was really looking forward to this video, and it didn't disapoint. The looks were vastly improved when they lowered the "butresses" on the later cars. I can remember a road test of a very early model in which the reviewer complained about the non-opening windows - obviously not a problem on this car. I loved the Workmate reference, which in its way was also a great piece of design!

    • @awalk5177
      @awalk5177 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Lotus 47 had non-opening widows it was classed as the Europa S1. The S2 (types 54 and 65 Federal) had electric windows.

    • @philipethier9136
      @philipethier9136 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@awalk5177 The Series 1 Europa (Lotus 46) and the Lotus 47 were different cars that looked similar. Lotus 47 was a racing car. The frame and suspension aft of the cockpit was completely-different. The engine was a Lotus/Ford twin cam and the transaxle was a Hewland.

    • @awalk5177
      @awalk5177 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@philipethier9136The original Europa and its variants comprise the Lotus Types 46, 47 (series 1), 54, 65 (Series 2 Renault engine and transaxle) and 74 (Twin cam Ford), and were produced between 1966 and 1975. Quite rare cars now. I still have S2 after 50 years owning it. They are amazing to drive.

  • @nova-oy4qy
    @nova-oy4qy ปีที่แล้ว +6

    so proud of you Jack. You have really grown as a reviewer and your reviews have improved a great deal. Keep it up.

  • @martinclapton2724
    @martinclapton2724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    During the late 1960s /very early 1970s, I remember one of the motoring magazines , I think it was Motorsport , judged 2 small cars to be the fastest cars A-B, in the UK. Remembering motorways were no where near so prevalent as they are today. You would think they would say a Ferrari , Aston Martin or other highly expensive exotic, but no , on A and B rated roads the two cars were the Mini Cooper 1275S and Lotus Europa .

    • @ChristianRThomas
      @ChristianRThomas ปีที่แล้ว

      They are great handling cars but if the Lotus is spartan and noisy, try the Cooper S. It's like sitting in a biscuit tin with an engine in front of your left knee. 😂😂

  • @jimbojunior6595
    @jimbojunior6595 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    In the early 80s at an scca solo event a Lotus Europa was the only car to finish clean on a very tricky section. Every thing else took out the last cone or had to slow to such an extent as to be be not competetive.. Very impressive.

  • @grahaminkpen5436
    @grahaminkpen5436 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had one - a twin cam - never had so many smiles per mile. Terrible gear change due to the long linkage, it could wander on some road surfaces, but it was surprisingly reliable, two storage areas - so practical to do an away weekend. I loved it.

  • @dummie4guitars
    @dummie4guitars ปีที่แล้ว +1

    12:40 With black rims and chromed hubcaps, this yellow body looks great! So charmingly unsophisticated and fun!

  • @catjudo1
    @catjudo1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Seeing you ensconce yourself into this lovely car gives me hope. I'm 5'5" but a bit, um, larger around and have never been sure if I would fit. I've long loved these cars and think that it's one of the top three rod cars that look best in John Player Special trim. And unlike the A310, the Bond Bug and even the Reliant Kitten, it's available here in good ol' America. Wonderful review!

  • @lotusladdie9132
    @lotusladdie9132 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always wanted one! I straddle the Europa by having a contemporary front engined Elan +2S and a later mid-engined Turbo Esprit. The designer of the Black and Decker Workmate, as well as various Lotuses, was Ron Hickman. Genius!! Great review - thanks very much.

  • @susansinclair4914
    @susansinclair4914 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'd love to see you take on the Marcos 3 Ltr V6. I had one in the late 1980's and it was amazing. I actually tossed up between the Europa and the Marcos but the Marcos was just so much better looking. A beautiful design.

    • @philtucker1224
      @philtucker1224 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Susan, I thoroughly agree! (My boss in Ramsgate had a few and did buy and sell some back in the early seventies) he took me out in a 1600 version. Quite fabulous and yes, very beautiful. Funnily enough in a later life around the mid nineties, one of my work colleagues down in Trowbridge Wiltshire, Bob Walder, had a Rover V8 hill climbing version. Unique cars well ahead of their time styling wise. HNY! 🙏

    • @philtucker1224
      @philtucker1224 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Back in the early seventies I did my apprenticeship in the race/rally engine development department at Piper Cams (in Ashford Kent in those days)..One popular conversion was to fit the larger Europe’s S valves to the Lotus Ford Twin-cam small valve heads. If I remember rightly we often also upgraded the Weber’s from the standard 40DCOEs to 45s (but happy to be corrected on that). Often with a slightly longer overlap on the cams I think we used to see a reasonable extra 20 horses on our dyno bed. Happy days!

  • @PiefacePete46
    @PiefacePete46 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A friend had a very early Renault powered car. It had a Weber carb, mild cam regrind, and extractor exhaust workover by Hermes Cars. The power was not earth-shattering, but enough to put the gearbox internals at risk. It did make the motor feel, and sound, much more "sporty". Just after he got it, we were sitting near the car enjoying a beer, and when the sun dropped lower, we could clearly read "Hermes Cars" and a phone number printing through the red paint... it must have been their demonstrator, before coming to New Zealand. Those rear buttresses were an advertiser's dream!
    He let me drive it once... he had to threaten me with violence to get me out! I fell in love! 😍

  • @ExUSSailor
    @ExUSSailor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I owned a '72 Twin Cam. What a FUN little car to drive. I used to do track days, and, it was enormous fun watching most of the other drivers stare as they tried to figure out what it was.

  • @idontwantachannel3091
    @idontwantachannel3091 ปีที่แล้ว

    As the video at around 3:13 of the rear suspension clearly shows a normal damper (shock absorber) - NOT a Chapman Strut - I searched the comments to see how many people pounced on that. Only two!.
    Those front and rear springs are amazing! - so much steel and so little space between coils. Surely this limits available travel. Does anyone know if this was how they came from the factory, or are they low grade 'aftermarket' or 'home-made' springs?

  • @ManinaGarage
    @ManinaGarage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You are one of the few people with the automotive experience to give the Europa a convincing review, awesome to see what it’s like. Nice one, thank you 🙌

  • @richardtomlinson7405
    @richardtomlinson7405 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I had one of these Twin Cam's. To fit my 6'7" frame in I had to remove the seat runners and bolt the seat direct to the floor, once in though, I was remarkably comfortable. To exit the car I had to rotate my body and pull myself out with both hands on the tarmac. They were very quick compared to other cars on the road at the time, I loved it.

    • @christianparsons6050
      @christianparsons6050 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂

    • @seany8787
      @seany8787 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Im almost a foot shorter than you and I feel sorry for you. All the struggles with great sports cars not to mention planes, cinemas, trains etc.

    • @joejopling3295
      @joejopling3295 ปีที่แล้ว

      Had one for a short while, I did not find the seat as comfortable as you did, mind I never had a padded coat on…roadholding in the wet was unbelievable…but I had a few engine issues, so when it was fixed, it was sold on

    • @philipethier9136
      @philipethier9136 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Richardtomlinson7405 I know I guy two inches taller than you. Said he could never fit in a TR6, but did fine in a Spitfire.

  • @stephencharles1398
    @stephencharles1398 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had a 4 year old yellow K reg twin cam and loved it. It was basic but the performance more than made up for it. I knew a guy who had the Renault version that sadly died in it. From what I remember the petrol balancing pipe between the 2 fuel tanks failed or became detached and the car turned into a fireball. I sold mine shortly after that and bought a Triumph Dolomite Sprint, a car which I also have fond memories of.

  • @marknielsen9762
    @marknielsen9762 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had a '72 Twin Cam and now own a '74 Special. The gearbox is not actually that bad. If you go around to the rear and move the actuator by hand, it seems fairly precise. The long linkage is most of the issue. To start, you need to make sure none of the bushings are worn. If they are, it's hopeless.

  • @jo05dk
    @jo05dk ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I had a small toy Lotus Europa when i was a kid, and one appeared in my favourite deck of car cards. Back then i didn't notice the oddities, and just enjoyed how they look. I've taken that with me into adulthood. In one of the (for me) right colours, i still think they are nice to look at. ..and everyone keep banging on about how well they drive. Sadly i can't afford one, so i won't frustrate myself by trying one. Enjoyed you having the pleasure though. Cheers, and a hopefully happy new year to you :)

    • @oldboy5001
      @oldboy5001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had the Matchbox version as a child, it was a favorite of mine ;)

  • @Pomdownuder
    @Pomdownuder ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always loved the Europa. There used to be a black JPS at the end of my street when I was a school kid, and a red And white Gold leaf twin near work, thought they looked magnificent. My wall poster cars (keep ya Countach and F40s) Europa and Dino were my dream cars

  • @larrykay6606
    @larrykay6606 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Totally agree about the steering. I inherited a non running '73 JPS Europa from my dad back in the early 2000's and got it running after several years. I would have kept it forever but I just never fell in love with the styling. Too quirky for my taste. Great video and brings back memories!

  • @stevenmitchell6347
    @stevenmitchell6347 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a '69 S2 with the Renault engine, bright yellow as you show. I aquired mine with a complete factory assembly manual, which was valued by many as worth more than the car itself! I upgraded the suspension and installed coilovers. After the Renault engine blew its headgasket catastrophically, destroying the cylinder head in the process, I replaced it with a balanced, blueprinted, and ported and polished Lotus Twin-Cam Ford w/Weber carburetors. The Twin-Cam made it a beast that would show the taillights to Porches, Corvettes, and more than one Ferrari! I sold it to a collector/racer who harassed me for years to sell it. I finally gave him a number almost twice its market/auction value in order to dissuade him. He didn't bat an eyelash or say a word. he simply turned and left. He returned an hour later and handed me my price in cash! I REALLY miss that car!

  • @william-131
    @william-131 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I have the S1 with the bonded chassis and the Lancia rear lights. I very much prefer the breadvan look over the pick-up look of the later cars but as Jack so rightly put it, its marmite. My car is slowly starting to look like the racing version the type 47. Including centerlock wheels and two Monza fuel fillers on the sails. The Europa is an under appreciated classic which keeps the values down but also in many cases the money spend on restoration. This results in many poor examples. I’m happy Jack you sampled a sorted one for this again excellent video!

    • @cliveclapham6451
      @cliveclapham6451 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had a breadvan one back in the late seventies great little car put a rose joint on the gear-lever made it a lot bette🎯🎯🎯🎯

    • @tgxperience
      @tgxperience ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cliveclapham6451 Did the same thing to mine. A lot of people don't get the styling or know that it was a prototype GT40 design. The original 'breadvan' design was taking advantage of the popular Kamm back trend in the 60's for doing warp speed at LeMans. I love the design and seeing one in person is quite a different experience than looking at it in pictures. It makes sense when you see it in person.

    • @funkyfurballs1078
      @funkyfurballs1078 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I also own a '67 S1 and think it looks cleaner than the later models. It's been garaged for many years but plan to get it running again. I bought the Pels adapter plate for a 4AGE swap but might have the R16 rebuilt instead.

    • @mrjaffa5072
      @mrjaffa5072 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I also have a 1967 S1A and I much prefer the full 'sails' over the notched back on the later cars.
      I'm intending to keep it looking completely standard but I'm happy to try to squeeze a little more power from the engine...

    • @funkyfurballs1078
      @funkyfurballs1078 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mrjaffa5072 Where are you located? I'm in San Diego... When I get my Datsun 510 on the road, the Europa's next!

  • @johnfalkenstine8377
    @johnfalkenstine8377 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There was no chapman strut at the back and the add-on 5th gear on the Renault box was instantly destroyed when you backed up into a curb.

  • @missogyny4921
    @missogyny4921 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It’s a Lotus Europa, which you appreciate if you understand Lotus and its history, particularly if like me you remember them coming out and drooled over them when your Dad’s car was a Vauxhall Victor or something similar. Any criticism of the styling is of little interest to those who know - ‘nuff said…!

  • @postbump4085
    @postbump4085 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lovely car, always wanted one since seeing one being restored in the same yellow. Is it me or does the driveshaft at 3:11 look like its rubbing on the exhaust? could be me though

  • @TheStobb50
    @TheStobb50 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As I was growing up the Lotus Europa was my dream car, I had the corgi version and absolutely worshipped it. Never got round to getting one probably because I grew to 6”2 and would struggle to get in one and definitely would not get in one now, but when you look at most super sports cars they all look the same but the Europa is very different, thank you Great video

    • @vmax4steve524
      @vmax4steve524 ปีที่แล้ว

      Georgie Best had one, instant cool.

    • @awc900
      @awc900 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had the Matchbox Superfast version. Since then I've always loved the Europa but will probably never own one. I do have a mid engined MG TF160 which is quite fun though. I'm 6' 1.5" and fit okay in that.

  • @pmapilotmooney
    @pmapilotmooney ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My all time favorite car, had 3 of them, 2 Esprits, 2 Cr4 corvettes and a 308GTSI Ferrari. Handling was GREAT it responded to thought, you thought about turning and it turned. The seats are the most comfortable I have ever sat in . Also it had a tremendous amount of luggage space in the boot. Other cars were faster but none better. My Ferrari mechanic told me about an autocross in New York the Europa beat all other contestants including Porsches and Ferraris.

  • @stephenricketts7764
    @stephenricketts7764 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The Lotus Europa was always a good looking car for me. I think it made good sense to use the Ford engine in later models. It helped both Ford and Lotus. I have heard it said that Colin Chapman wanted the driver of a Lotus to have the controls as close to hand as possible which of course was part of his racing heritage. Nice review Jack, thank you. 👍👍

  • @philipdubuque9596
    @philipdubuque9596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Your positive comparison of the Europa with the Elan was surprising but a good illustration of the merits of this unique, not to say quirky little machine. I suspect that the sheer lightness of the car is at least one factor in the superior road feel you're enthusing about in this video. Thanks for another entertaining and instructive outing!

    • @nickjames9555
      @nickjames9555 ปีที่แล้ว

      You may enjoy Frederick Bell's comment, placed soon after yours. It sounds like his father was directly involved with the road feel you mentioned - not always so good!

    • @awalk5177
      @awalk5177 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mid engine makes a big difference to the handling as the Elan and Europa share the same front suspension design and steering rack.

  • @EuropaSman
    @EuropaSman ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another great video Jack 👍 .
    Oliver Winterbottom restyled the S2 version of the Europa. He was responsible for the cutout on the rear deck. The backbone chassis of the S1 was also bonded to the body, but the S2 went back to a more conventional setup like the Elan I believe.
    A Europa chassis was used to create Giugiaro's "silver car" concept that was to become the Esprit.
    There's also a great car chase involving a black Europa in the 1974 Charles Grodin movie 11 Harrowhouse. There's also a very nice Dino in that film too!👌

  • @DavidSmith-qg9ho
    @DavidSmith-qg9ho ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I have been a 1971 Europa S2 owner since 1986, The car you were driving is a early S3 version, so it is a 1972. The car body was designed by Mike Costin, who was a former Aerodynamics with De Havilland Aircraft Company. Mike also went on to join with Mechanical Engineer named Keith Duckworth and started "Cosworth" designing and researching racing engines was we know still to this day.

    • @martinda7446
      @martinda7446 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Amazing people. Amazing history. I adore the Europa and think in the right colours it looks magnificent.

    • @ism671
      @ism671 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think Frank Costin is the Aerodynamacist. There is a book about him called flying on four wheels...

    • @mreuropa88
      @mreuropa88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The car body was designed by John Frayling after Ron Hickmans' design was deemed too complex. Mike Costin may have had an input too. The type 74 (series 3) was launched in October 1971 so it could have been a very early 71 registration.

    • @nuttycommuter3718
      @nuttycommuter3718 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mike Costin was also half of Marcos

  • @robertamoyaw1979
    @robertamoyaw1979 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was my first Matchbox car. I have always kept a special place in my heart for it . I am happy to see it drives like a Go Kart . I hope one day soon I can buy a nicely restored 1 🤓

  • @zogzoogler
    @zogzoogler ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My Dad always looked upon the Europa fondly, as he worked for racing driver Chris Meek and his then girlfriend Valli Stack who raced very successfully in a black and silver BIBA boutique livery Europa.

  • @martinsaunders2942
    @martinsaunders2942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had two back in the day..First a pistachio green twin cam, and then a JPS Big Valve. Wonderful cars! Now in an Evora SSr My 8th Lotus.

    • @katywalker8322
      @katywalker8322 ปีที่แล้ว

      Out of interest, what was the registration of the pistachio green twin cam?

  • @grayfool
    @grayfool ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I first saw the Europa in JPS colours when I was about 12 back in the seventies and fell in love. I've never even sat in one but would love to have a go. Amazing car. Thanks Jack, this brought back some great memories.

  • @yavorkaloyanov4483
    @yavorkaloyanov4483 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was just starting to unbox my Tamiya Lotus Europa model kit, when I saw this pop up. Haha , nice one !

  • @stephenconway2468
    @stephenconway2468 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I was younger I had my dad's Motor Sport magazine (1968) where it had a great article on driving the early Europa in the south of France. I never forgot that. This motor is on my bucket list.

  • @syedmustafa3145
    @syedmustafa3145 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Always had a fascination with the Europa since I first saw it in Gran Turismo 4. I always wondered how it drove and felt. An under appreciated vehicle for sure. Thank you Jack for this treat of a video and for satisfying my years long questions!

    • @johnferguson4869
      @johnferguson4869 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I only saw it in GT2 & it wasn’t really worth driving, however in SegaGT 2002 on XBox it was unbelievable: glued to the track

  • @markclevedon81
    @markclevedon81 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Jack,
    Thankyou for another insightful review and a happy and healthy 2023 to you. This brought back memories. A customer of my dad's bought a Renault engined Europa in white to replace a Ford Mustang and I vividly recall being collected from Primary school in the Lotus while it was being test driven. The owner, known for his quirky tastes in cars, eventually part exchanged it for a yellow Marcos 3 litre. Your test has slightly changed my mind because while I admired the looks and engineering I never understood why so many of these "overpriced kit cars" found enthusiastic homes given the price but I guess that the characteristics of the car noted in the test confirm why. As a matter of interest and according to Motor (March 1973), an assembled Europa cost £2471 (£2044 in kit form). How did this compare? There were few real competitors even at this price. A Ginetta G21 (£2125), a Gilbern Invader (£2693) or perhaps a Capri 3000 GXL (£1831) and a BMW 2002 Tii (£2499). Which would you have bought?

  • @crhvideo
    @crhvideo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Jack, I always admired the Europa when I was a boy. As an adult I grew too tall to fit, but I am glad to hear it really is as good as I imagined it to be. Thanks for the review! Also, the yellow looks great on it!

  • @SpiralTrio
    @SpiralTrio 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ine of my dads first cars ever and one of his and mine favourite cars ever, thank you for recognising the car❤ S2, not a twin cam but was in that same yellow.

  • @amgguy4319
    @amgguy4319 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've got the big valve version, and it makes a big difference. These are so highly underrated, and that's been good price-wise for those in the know. The shift linkage is probably what you encountered. As it slowly wears, us owners barely realize it, until it needs attention. But for someone driving it a first time it might seem as if were - as you observed - not in harmony with the rest of the car. The linkage goes all the way to the farthest back of the trans at the most rear part of the car. It's easily visible just below the bumper. These cars rear portion was dedigned for aero and it's top speed was higher than the Elan. I love mine.

    • @PiefacePete46
      @PiefacePete46 ปีที่แล้ว

      @AMG Guy : Do the Twin-Cam and Big-Valve models still use the Renault gearbox? In the back of my mind I thought they went to something more "durable"!

    • @amgguy4319
      @amgguy4319 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine is the 4 sp. Everyone thinks the 5 sp is so great but it's weaker.

  • @sandymcvicar2325
    @sandymcvicar2325 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As an owner of a 1970 1500cc Renault powered Europa I agree with your review. A minor adjustment to the suspension cures the dartieness of straight driving. Not an Autobahn speeder but a blast on twisty roads. It would be a challenge to find another car that is this much fun to drive for the price they are selling for.

  • @rustybearden1800
    @rustybearden1800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A friend's older brother had one of these when I was growing up in the 70s. It was a powder blue-ish with the same interior and was basically identical to this one. It looked like something from another planet, something of a backwards automotive "mullet" - party in the front and business in the back. I remember it being very light and somewhat fragile feeling, our baseline comparison being American Big Three muscle cars and giant sedan/coupes. Contemporary English sport cars felt heavier and beefier in comparison. Even as a child the interior felt very cramped and claustrophobic but it was an exciting car to ride in (when it ran - it suffered from the typical electrical gremlins common to most British cars of the era). It was freakishly different than anything else on the road at the time - an oddball elf in a sea of automotive monstrosities!

    • @solsol1624
      @solsol1624 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Business at the back? The back would make a good workbench ☺ Sorry, could not resist!

    • @rustybearden1800
      @rustybearden1800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@solsol1624 It's wonderful in person until you go back and get past the door - then it goes a little wonky to encase the engine and transmission/drivetrain. More than a little odd in the context of comtemporary cars from that era.

  • @stevenhoman2253
    @stevenhoman2253 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my story below, I was seeing the later model, in black, which you showed an image of. The ersatz luggage rack, was what came straight to mind for me. I want one now, I don't mind sitting low on the road surface, scrapping by bum along. And the steering feel you describe, or at least the directness, cuts into my story as well, go-karts are so remarkable in that regard. Thank you, my friend, some happiness to start 23 off, 27.

  • @derrickgreen9020
    @derrickgreen9020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In 1972, I bought a new orange 1300 Beetle and my mate had a JPS with Renault engine. I thought it looked fabulous until on a bumpy back road, the alternator broke off behind our seats and had to be welded back on before we could go any further.

    • @zloychechen5150
      @zloychechen5150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The extra weight of welding equipment wouldn't be beneficial for the car's handling.

    • @martinsaunders2942
      @martinsaunders2942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The JPS Europas were all Lotus Ford Big valve twin cams .. The earlier R16 engined cars have the higher buttresses at the back.

    • @derrickgreen9020
      @derrickgreen9020 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zloychechen5150 😂

  • @mattronk9343
    @mattronk9343 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had one in 1977 when I graduated from high school, I was a football player and was just to big had to sell it but it was fun to drive!!!

  • @markchip1
    @markchip1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I remember falling in love with the Europa - specifically the one that competed in rallycross on ITV's World Of Sport in the beginning of the '70s! The sight of such a car hurtling sideways around a half-muddy, half-tarmac circuit was spectacular!! And it was surprisingly competetive, even against fully off-road prepped Escorts, etc and even the occasional Hillman Imp!!!

    • @andyw0340
      @andyw0340 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ah man , those were the days !

  • @shahnawazvlog6266
    @shahnawazvlog6266 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lotus are the Best a car every youngman should own one time in his life! I glass I did long ago but it is a life time memoried of fun and joy. Looking back nowday, the best car that I have ever own.. Lotus Esprit that was...

  • @oohmeconkers1968
    @oohmeconkers1968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Definitely marmite. As one comment says here they are very colour dependent and the JPS livery really suits it. I think the back end is just so unresolved, we need an engine cover… that’ll do!
    Still a lovely little car and you really don’t see a lot of them around. Good test Jack 🏆

    • @andyelliott8027
      @andyelliott8027 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, as I always say about Marmite you either love it or you hate it................Or you think it's not too bad !

    • @oohmeconkers1968
      @oohmeconkers1968 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andyelliott8027 to be honest I’ve never tried it 🤣🤣🤣
      The lotus i suspect is all about the drive and not the looks. And like a marmite pot I don’t think I’d fit in one! 👍🏼

    • @andyelliott8027
      @andyelliott8027 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oohmeconkers1968 I think that gearbox trouble Jack's having is probably more due to the age of the gearbox than anything else.

    • @buggs9950
      @buggs9950 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oohmeconkers1968 Never tried Marmite?! You haven't lived! Personally I prefer Bovril, it's like beef jam..
      Yeah the Europa does look like they got back to the B pillar and gave up.

    • @oohmeconkers1968
      @oohmeconkers1968 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@buggs9950 beef jam ain’t selling it to me Buggs 🤣🤣

  • @newarkmidgeley
    @newarkmidgeley ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The ride that you describe sounds like the happy situation where the suspension is mounted on the sweet spot of the chassis. Just like the sweet spot on a cricket bat where the ball flies of the bat without any sensation of jarring - unlike when it hits either too far up the bat or too close to the end where it can send a sharp shock through the handle. If this is the case then ripples and ridges on the road will seem to be ironed out!

  • @onecookieboy
    @onecookieboy ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fantastic review of a ground breaking 50 year old car. It reminds me of how far we have come in terms of comfort and safety, this car, like so many made in the 60's and 70's, would be a death trap if it came to a sudden stop, the cost of improved safety is of course more weight, which has a big impact on handling and performance. Modern cars are better and worse in equal parts from a driving experience perspective, but overall, I think I would prefer to walk away from a crash than be taken to hospital or the morgue.

    • @benfagen4324
      @benfagen4324 ปีที่แล้ว

      A pity for you really. Our generation survived by assessing and managing risk, not by being fearful. The cars of the 60's and 70's are such a joy. You only live once, so try one, and use your usual quota of skill and caution. Enjoy!

    • @onecookieboy
      @onecookieboy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@benfagen4324 Mate, I'm in my early 60's and have driven a lot of cars, most of them fairly crappy TBH. I have also lost quite a few people to motor vehicle related injuries and accidents and have been in one or two myself, some things are beyond your control on a public road, it doesn't take much and a car like the Lotus, if it came into contact with something larger and heavier than it is, which means almost anything bigger than a bicycle, is going to come off second best. Three friends of mine were killed in a Triumph Vitesse, they weren't even going very fast at the time but hit a cow which had wandered onto the road, then crashed into a ditch, the car was unrecognisable from the accident and you would easily walk away from in a modern car.

    • @bernhardtsuballa5341
      @bernhardtsuballa5341 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am absolutely with you! At those old days I drove a VW-Porsche 914 and my dream was to own a Lotus Europa. Because the 914 is a low car, I thought the Europa will not be very different. But when I start to take a test ride my feeling was to sit directly on the street. Ok I drove a small curvy street with crash barriers on the side. There was no other car on the street up to the point a car was suddenly there. In fact the barriers have had exactly the same hight the Europa had. Because of that scary moment I did'nt bought the Europa what perhaps saved my live.. Today I am old and savety, comfort and price are more important than the look of the car. But I never forget my big love into this car!

    • @bernhardtsuballa5341
      @bernhardtsuballa5341 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@onecookieboy Same to me! I have a few friends who are paramedics or firefighters in accident rescue. They all agree that the older the car, the greater the risk. Both active and passive safety are just bad on old cars. What happens if we drive under a truck with a flat sports car???

  • @tenners3258
    @tenners3258 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sometime in the late sixties, As a young lad, my Dad took me to The Racing Car Show @Olympia (I think). Dad was the Sales Director @Norton Villiers. They'd rented out their test beds to Lotus to develop that Cortina engine(used to go into the factory on Sat mornings to listen!). Anyhow Dad and CC were friends, and I was invited onto the stand to meet him, ogle the scantily clad models, and sit in the Europa on the stand...
    Happy days..

  • @darbbively3406
    @darbbively3406 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I had an S2 USA model for a few years in the early '80s as a daily driver, what a wonderful car. Put me down as another who liked the models with buttresses rather than the later cut-down model you drove here.
    I don't know about the twin-cams, but the Renault-engined models also got spectacular fuel economy for the day. I easily got mileage in the 40+ mpg (U.S. gallons, that is) range.
    I miss that car, but at my current age I'm not sure I would be able to make the contortions needed to get in it! 😀

  • @paulsyarduk2045
    @paulsyarduk2045 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another good one Jack, often thought it looked like one designer did the front half and another did the rear and they were pushed together. Interesting regarding the 'workmate'...used them for 30 years and never knew 👍🤣

  • @jessebaldwin2661
    @jessebaldwin2661 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Back in 1969, I dated a girl who has just brought a new Europa. Whenever we used it people would gather around it in parking lots just to get a good look at it. It was truly unique and a revolutionary style at that time.

  • @ianbishop5651
    @ianbishop5651 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Ian Bishop here, I just wanted to let you know that I think your channel is fantastic and more than that I'm able to sit down and watch with my younger daughter with no fear of bad language or crude behaviour your first class mate

  • @neilpiper9889
    @neilpiper9889 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I worked on the Europa assembly line in 1969 1970.
    The Renault engines came in from France with the bigger valves.
    Lots of the special pastel colour versions went to Japan, right hand drive.

  • @wearetomorrowspast.5617
    @wearetomorrowspast.5617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really cool- looking car.
    A chap in the village had one when was a kid. In black. Just a beauty.
    Nice vid.

  • @mantarayal
    @mantarayal ปีที่แล้ว

    My brother has one of these. The Lotus in yellow. He's had it for around 40 years. I've sent him this vid. He will agree with just about everything you've said!! I've driven it and yep, that gearbox takes getting used to, but eventually you do. However, i was surprised that a car exists that is more difficult to get out of!!! Really enjoy your channel mate. Love from NZ. Drive safe and take care all.

  • @MyHumanWreckage
    @MyHumanWreckage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If it says L O T U S at the back, it’s good enough for me. Brilliant cars.

  • @tonymoreton7166
    @tonymoreton7166 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had a matchbox toy of this in purple as a kid. Just about my favourite, but not seen one for real, or really thought much about it since. Great review of a real blast from the past.

  • @taylorjs2534
    @taylorjs2534 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review Jack. What you noticed in just a couple of days matches with my experience over 3 years.

  • @The80shilling
    @The80shilling ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always lusted after the Lotus Europa Twin-Cam JPS (John Player Special) version; black and gold, lovely wheels, looked amazing.

  • @simply_psi
    @simply_psi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of my dream cars, along with Jensens Interceper and CV8.

  • @rickhayes8009
    @rickhayes8009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much. Been waiting for this one! The Europa is my favorite car of all time... or 50 years, since I was 15, when one of my teachers drove a Europa to school every day.

    • @neilalexander4381
      @neilalexander4381 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im thinking you may have gone to Calthorpe Park school in Fleet!

  • @JoeyJoJoJuniorShabbadoo
    @JoeyJoJoJuniorShabbadoo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “The looks are a bit marmite.” Absolutely perfect, Jack. Well done.

  • @michaelpegasiou4531
    @michaelpegasiou4531 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jack how did you pull that little beauty out the bag! Loved them since I was a kid just looks so individual and to me if I saw one It was a great day.I am so glad it’s as good as I hoped,I would love a red one with gold stripes and gold wheels added to my dream garage.

  • @6rimR3ap3r
    @6rimR3ap3r ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love a video going into detail on Chapman struts, Watts link, Panhard rods etc :-)

  • @beowulf5982
    @beowulf5982 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A Pin-up car in the 70's especially in the JPS colours. Back in the day you would write and post a letter to all your favourite car manufacturers and get back these wonderful glossy prints of the cars you loved. We were all dreamers back then.

  • @chrispritchard4676
    @chrispritchard4676 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video Jack. I had a Renault powered Europa in the eighties and two Series 4 Lotus 7s, both with big valve twin cam engines. Your description of the Europa's handling is spot on. I once took a double 90 degree bend (first right and then left) at speed and there was no fuss whatsoever. The 7s would have hopped and skipped with tyre protests,but the Europa barely noticed. Possibly the finest handling car of its generation.

  • @lotusman1974
    @lotusman1974 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They made the Europa till 1974 when the second generation Elite came out and in 1975 the new two seater Esprit production started. A difficult car to work on (as are most Lotus's ) especially the engine. You have to pull the engine on the Twincamed cars so the whole of the rear end suspension has to be dismantled just to change the water pumps which only last around 25 k miles

  • @billy4072
    @billy4072 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I felt your pain 👌 lol...well, your enthusiasm ✅. When you mentioned the workmate , designed by same bloke ... it all made sense . 🥁.

  • @heiner71
    @heiner71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice, even the wheels look like from the late 60's Lesney Matchbox version I owned of this.

  • @scottlewisparsons9551
    @scottlewisparsons9551 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for another great video. I really enjoyed hearing about this car. My friend’s father managed a dealership in Wellington, New Zealand, which sold these. I had heard that these handled very well, they were also very low to the ground! The seat had to be that shape so people could fit into the car. All the best from Sydney Australia 🇦🇺

  • @paulnicholasen4196
    @paulnicholasen4196 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A brilliant design for ultimate cornering and feel, but you left out it's major flaw: you probably are safer on a motorcycle. That Europa body is eggshell thin fiberglass, and I do mean eggshell thin. Between that and the backbone chassis, there is absolutely no protection from anything. Hit a squirrel and the squirrel will probably come out better.

  • @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311
    @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating - you won't hear about one of these in such a personal, personable way as on this channel...

    • @Number27
      @Number27  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you, that’s a really nice thing to say! Happy new year,

  • @sico2454
    @sico2454 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the great video! From 1999-2007 I had an 1969 S2 with an uprated Renault 16TX cross flow 1565cc engine so more power. I had always wanted one after having a Matchbox model when I was a kid in the 60s. Your comments about handling are spot on, however….. if you are thinking of buying one, make sure your expectations are at the right level. It effectively is a kit car and things like interior and fittings are basic. The biggest issue with mine was the leak in the 6ft steel water pipe running through the chassis from front radiator to rear engine - impossible to get to! It also had a fuel vaporisation problem when hot that I never solved. Finally, forget it if you are over 6ft tall! I am 6ft and my head jammed the ceiling and there’s no headlining or seat lowering to help. A great experience (I sold it to an exporter to Japan where they love them) but overall I enjoyed my 1998 Elise much more and wish I had never sold that.

  • @benbuchanan672
    @benbuchanan672 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jack BRING ON 2023!!
    Your passionate, unscripted narrative is entertaining, engaging and interesting. I also love the background info about the cars you drive at the beginning. In stark contrast to another TH-camr who is a nice guy and who drives interesting cars but whose delivery is a parroted, parodied turn off (IMHO).
    Keep it up! You remain the very best TH-camr and 2023 will be your year!
    Also, keep up the Influenzo and Elise content 😉

  • @TheLeylander
    @TheLeylander ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've always loved the look of the Europa , in fact its one of the best looking Lotus's in my opinion , always loved them since I was a young boy , oh I would love to drive one , and obviously this drive for you was so amazing it blew you away .
    Thank you for sharing I really enjoyed this .

  • @richardclifton3432
    @richardclifton3432 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your enthusiasm, Jack. I suspect that most of the negative replies are from people that have never seen one in the flesh and certainly never driven one. I’ve had two: a Renault engined S2 and a Twin Cam. The S2 was OK but the TC was excellent. I took it to a Lotus track day at Donington Park with my S3 Elan and I’d say it handled the circuit better than the Elan. Probably because of the wider track and wider tyres. However, on the country lanes, the Elan was pretty much unbeatable.
    By the way, it was Ron Hickman who made his fortune creating the Black & Decker Workmate (a design that was foolishly turned down by other manufacturers, I believe) and played a major part in the design of the Elan, +2 and Europa.

  • @michaelisaacson9735
    @michaelisaacson9735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So happy to see you review a Europa. It was one of the first cars to catch my fancy at about 10 years old. Had models of it, freaked when I saw one or two on occasion, and have always liked it. Dear Old hated them, though they looked like a truck, so that made me want one even more. I'd love to see you check out a Fiat 124 Spider, 1971-78. Had a lot of those.