@Baby Maker I think that account has to do with vote fraud being implemented by Russia. I'm not saying they are faking votes, I'm saying they are faking American opposition towards the disposal of the current President. The Russians have been doing it for decades, but everyone highlighted it this past election.
IMO The move has always been to wait to see what AMD has to offer. I am more of a value shopper as opposed to needing that extra few FPS. I’m not playing anything at a level that I would benefit from having the extra performance.
This year seems to be the best year to wait and see what is going to happen. I expect anything AMD does Nvidia will try to put something out to counter(if you want to stick with nvidia). Personally I think for the first time I might go AMD/ATI if they have a half decent competitor to the 3070/80 that doesn't get all bought up by miners
Probably the majority of folks reading and watching Paul’s channel fit that opinion.He always has a common sense approach to these things.As I get older(wiser...),I am more about low heat/more efficient GPU/CPU’ for personal builds.A Ryzen 6/8 core APU would be the height of my ambitions these days.
Always thinking about the little guy Paul adding in certain cards and making those changes people asked for and as usual straight to the point, no fluff.
If your only gaming at 1080p your not gonna see much gain considering 1080p is more CPU dependent and not hard on your gpu. 1440p and 4k is where your gonna see the gains.
I love how you covered such a wide breath of cards . some other benchmarks are only looking at 3070 vs 3080 and 2080ti , but its really helpful for someone like me who is still on a Pascal GPU to see how they stack up
Thank you Paul for all the work this video probably took to make. Thank you for including the older cards! Thanks also for narrating the benchmarks so I could listen to the video without having to stare at my phone during work!
Yay! New graphics card that won't be in stock anywhere. This is genuinely the card I'm looking forward to the most out of the 3000-series line up. However, I'm still waiting to see what AMD has up their sleeves.
I’m new to pc building and preparing for building my first one and I’m really hoping to start off with this to make sure even though I’ve got a moderate budget it’ll still be future proofed
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As a 2080 TI owner and who prefers to play on my 4k tv with xbox controller this benchmark puts my mind at ease. The higher the resolution the more ram matters, and those 3 GB more really make a difference. Thanks for the review!
I did it! Stayed up all night monitoring the sites and managed to snag a 3070 from Newegg.ca this morning in the first few seconds. After a minute everything was gone on all the Canadian sites I had pulled up except for a 2 fan Asus model that nobody appeared to want. I considered buying it just to sell on EBAY but after 30 years working at Ticketmaster trying to thwart scalpers, I couldn't bring myself to become one. Well I was at it I grabbed all the rest of the parts for my new dream build that will even kinda match my tatoo. I love dragons:) CPU: Intel Core i7-10700K Comet Lake 8-Core 3.8 GHz GPU: MSI GeForce RTX™ 3070 GAMING X TRIO Motherboard: MSI MPG Z490 GAMING CARBON WIFI RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 Cooler: MSI MAG CORELIQUID 240R AIO Liquid CPU Cooler Power: Seasonic FOCUS PX-650 80+ Platinum Full Modular Case: MSI MPG SEKIRA 100R Black Mid Tower SATA: SAMSUNG 860 EVO Series 2.5" 1TB SATA III NVME: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2 2280 1TB PCIe Gen 3.0 x4 Now I just have to tackle putting it together. It will only be my second build. I have never installed an AIO before the last one I had, my brother installed and it blew up and destroyed my computer shortly after he passed away. Which prompted me to search out all of you guys, Linus, Jay, Kyle etc. from his favorites to build my own computer. Thanks so much for all your videos over the years. It's supper helpful. Any advice on maintenance for an AIO, so I don't have another one blow up?
Great breakdown of the benchmark slides Paul, I watched a lot of these videos today and I feel like I took away the most helpful knowledge from your explanation with the benchmark slides. Keep up the good work!
I'm thinking sometime next Spring, I'll see what shakes out before upgrading my aging GTX 1080. The RTX 3070 seems like a solid upgrade for less than then nose bleed pricing of the RTX 3080/3090. In the meantime, my new PS5 will be a distraction.
Paul, appreciate the thorough review. For the money, the RTX 3070 looks like a winner. As you said, availability and AMD's offerings will be the biggest factors with this launch. Maybe AMD's announcements will cause some who were considering the 3070 to hold out a bit longer and, in turn, hopefully, free up some 3070 inventory.
@@billwiley7216 True, but if AMD can make some direct comparisons between their new cards and the RTX 30XX line, that will be a factor for many potential purchasers during the 3070's launch.
@@billwiley7216 Its gonna take months for Nvidia to get their heads out of their asses and stock up as well... "launch" doesnt mean anything for Nvidia...
Paul, thank you for including so many different cards. I'm sure it's a pain to get that much data together. In a follow-up video can we see it compared to the various 2070's (super, ti, etc., etc.), please? It was nice to see that the performance is greater than the 2080 & close to 2080 ti. However, I would like to see how much of a improvement was made from one generation to the next. (I'm also hoping that this is mostly data you have saved somewhere & wont need to do a lot of extra bench-marking.)
I built an entire high end system for the RTX3080 launch, but obviously wasn't able to get it so now I'm using my new system with my old gtx1070 still powering it. It was quite a boost though going from an i7-4770k to a i7-10700k.
I live in Argentina and I was planning to buy a 3070, but the economy is going to hell and low availability and uncertainty led me to buy a 2080 Super that was on sale on a computer store near my home, I bought it for 500$. I was feeling bad because I wanted the 3070, but seeing the scores I feel that I made the right choice. Thanks!
Managed to get a FE from Scan (UK) this morning. I have never clicked refresh so much in my life. Might have to sell it next year when refresh cards with more vram come out though.... Don't know how long it will last in modern titles at 1440p
I managed to secure a RTX 3070 (somehow) in Australia, haven't got it yet but its on its way. Not sure tbh whether the 3070 is a more compelling deal than the 3080. Aftermarket cards are around $1000 AUD and the 3080 is $1500 AUD. I'm not certain but I believe the 3070 was a good choice (or at least that what I'm telling myself now).
This card seems like the one to get as it's reasonably priced with good performance up to 1440, but especially good if you're doing competitive gaming at 1080.
Well i went from a 1660ti to a 2080ti for $600 and i still have my 1660ti for a second build, along with a case mobo cpu and psu i almost have another pc. I decided to skip the 30 series and my friend sold me his monster EVGA FTW3 that he only used a couple times. With the box and warranty left on it looking brand new with the LED in the front i thought it was worth the $600 with it being $1300-1600 on the market.
Thanks for including the 1070 and 1080p benchmarks. Looks like going up to a 3070 is he move. A little over double the performance. 1080p@144 is my use case so thanks for including those
Never. My Ryzen 3600 and your Ryzen 2700x have the same performance, and I play cpu heavy games like Assasin Creed: Odyssey without ever even exceeding 90% cpu usage.
In flight sim x there is an update for Sydney to improve the graphics which are missing a few things in the standard game like the harbour bridge and so forth
Does availability matter when you plan to buy a card 1 year after release, only if you plan to buy it from scalpers or wait on outside the store for them it might matter. But without a doubt 3070 is worth a lot with the performance/price while 2080 ti used has become less than 500 usd to be sold even with availability since they come with no warranty and same performance numbers + higher power consumption.
So, I bought Strix 2080ti oc for 349 usd with one year warranty... Seller claims that 3070 will chrush it at 1440p, haha, so happy I bought it for such small amount... :)
@@georgschulz8143 He is stupid, but he needed quick money. Anyway, 3070 is good, but 2080ti is still beast with 11gb of memory. I will wait 4 gen cards and then get 3080 for small amount
So question how would this stack up to a gtx 1080? I'm thinking about getting this since it has ray tracing and is affordable since the 3080 is to far out of my budget. I also play at 1440p any advice is appreciated.
Great job and thanks for the 1440p numbers. I'm waiting on big navi, but my brother has a Gsync 1440p and can't get a 3080 and plans on snagging a 3070 if possible instead.
Your brother should wait for a 3080 instead. The 3080 is about 20% to 40% faster, and that is definitely worth paying $200 more. In the past 40% was the leap between on gpu generation to the next, no kidding! The 3080 appears to have a better price to performance ratio then the 3070.
As a GTX 1070 current owner, I appreciate you including it in your benchmarks and hope you will include it in the future AMD GPU comparisons. I just might go ahead and try to get a 3070 if I can get one, unless AMD really blows it out of the water price/performance wise. FYI I play games on an AOC Ultrawide 3440 x 1440 x 144hz monitor and really need a GPU upgrade!
In that high resolution you should really think of an 3080 instead. The higher the resolution, the bigger the gap is between the 3070 and 3080. The 3080 has up to 40% more performance in 4k then the 3070, for only $200 more.
Just scored an MSI RTX 3070 Ventus OC 2x a few hours ago on Newegg and I'm very curious to see how it compares to the FE. Probably around the same performance, but fricking pumped to upgrade my Vega 56!
I'm considering trying to get one of these. Not sure yet though. The performance is impressive for the price and wattage but I really don't know if I want to deal with the hassle.
I'm definitely going to be trying to get one the second I can. I am also running 550w power supply on a b450 itx motherboard so I'm hoping to make some reviews since I finally have the opportunity if I get my hands on it. Will be making a tech channel if I do!
Im gonna try to get one Paul, Best Buy don’t fail me! I am building my first PC, going to be using a Ryzen 5 3600 CPU with it. Hoping that won’t cause any bottlenecking issues.
Great graphs. Best 3070 review i have seen today. When new Ryzen comes out. Please show us scaling with rx5700xt to see if many of us would be better of buying a cpu rather than gpu this year.
I do wish reviews like this would lead off with a brief summary "The XYZ is good / bad because of A, B, and C." and then go into detail. As is I generally skip to the conclusion then - if I wish - go back.
i have a feeling the availability of of these cards in intentional so that consumers might just break down and by older cards, old inventory gets sold, people will still upgrade later once the 30 series cards are actually available. if AMD actually as cards available on launch i think im going to be switching to a full amd build. they are really killing it
Please don't have 1440p "as a bonus" only. According to Steam survey from this month, 65% are on 1080p, 7% on 1440p and only 2% on 4K. I understand that 4K is cool to see the "new" capabilities of the cards, but only 2% can use that info for actual use.
I expected better performance with ray tracing compared with the 2080 ti. This leaves the door wide open for Navi. Definitely waiting for ALL the benchmarks and real price points of both team red and green. I feel I may support AMD this time in the hope the market gets back to somewhat realistic pricing.
For 3D rendering it seems it's cheaper to get two of these vs. 1 RTX 3090, although you'd end up with more or less the same amount of cuda cores (slightly more even). Only downside is you lose a slot and you have 2x220W vs. 1x350W in power consumption.
From 980ti to 3070 is great then. 100% extra perfomance on 1440p (or there about) for 500$. 700$ for 115% isn't a good deal then. That would be 40% more money for just 15% more performance.
I'm going to wait (like I have a choice) to see how the 3070 compares to the corresponding AMD GPU that's coming. Very curious how close in price and performance those products will be. Fortunately, I hadn't planned on building a pc until early next year and hopefully there will be cards available in January or February.
I definitely do want a card from this generation since I am seeing the limitations of my 1070ti. AMD is included in my purchasing options but I am a little concerned about AMD drivers as they have been iffy for video cards in the past.
Lots of upgraders skip generations, so nice that Paul includes 1080Ti and 1070 in his results, this is what the people want to see.
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Yeah, I am 1060 owner and this really makes it easy for me to compare etc.
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@@DryTEKGI yeah same , im looking at 3070 to upgrade from a 1060
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Thank you Paul for including the 1070. That is my current card and I'd love to see what will I gain for going for anything above my current.
3070 is an excellent upgrade for a 1070
Mine is a 1070ti
But im definitely going with a 3070
@@wiredWhiz27 same here. I hate how so many other benchmarks have only compared to 3070 to the 3080 and 2080ti.
I'm on the same boat.
@Marcos Alvarenga it really depends on your needs. Personally I like VR and my 1070ti really struggles with some games
IMO The move has always been to wait to see what AMD has to offer. I am more of a value shopper as opposed to needing that extra few FPS. I’m not playing anything at a level that I would benefit from having the extra performance.
This year seems to be the best year to wait and see what is going to happen. I expect anything AMD does Nvidia will try to put something out to counter(if you want to stick with nvidia). Personally I think for the first time I might go AMD/ATI if they have a half decent competitor to the 3070/80 that doesn't get all bought up by miners
ive been patiently waiting as well. my 2600x and rx580 have been serving me well for the games I play.
But i cant crank them to max just yet.
@@A_Burly_Gnoll AMD are releasing mining versions of the 5700 so that should help in that regard.
Probably the majority of folks reading and watching Paul’s channel fit that opinion.He always has a common sense approach to these things.As I get older(wiser...),I am more about low heat/more efficient GPU/CPU’ for personal builds.A Ryzen 6/8 core APU would be the height of my ambitions these days.
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Paul, I watched your review of the 3070 before any of the others because I think you're my favorite tech TH-camr.
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@@Matlockization L
*Pats his 1080 ti* I'll be sticking with my good old reliable card:P
Yeah, I'm glad I stuck with my 1080 Ti. I skipped the 20 series and will probably skip the 30 series too.
Long live the King
Unbeatable? It was at the bottom of nearly all the benchmarks, it's pretty old these days.
@@TC-tn9tb it at the bottom of the high end cards. It’s still a good card.
My 770 is screaming for help but the chances it's getting replaced for a 3070 arent high
A huge moment of silence to all the 2080ti owners who sold their 2080ti’s dirt cheep a month ago... “f”
i bought 2 EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 XC Gaming for 500 euro's a card thanxs nvidea
f
whats dirt cheap? The lowest i saw them being sold for was like 450 euro. Normally they were going for 550-650
i know someone who sold their 2080 ti but for a 3080
F
Always thinking about the little guy Paul adding in certain cards and making those changes people asked for and as usual straight to the point, no fluff.
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And Paul, my wife happens to love the size of my 3070. Although I told her it was 12 inches instead of 9.5".
A little on the gay side right there. Paul gave you a little heart too I see.
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@@Fatmasters11 stop being a cock. Leave him alone.
3070 at 1080p for price is insane. I cannot wait to get mine.
Suggest getting a 144hz 1440p monitor since it's a huge upgrade and the 3070 will be pretty good for it, they're pretty expensive tho
If your only gaming at 1080p your not gonna see much gain considering 1080p is more CPU dependent and not hard on your gpu. 1440p and 4k is where your gonna see the gains.
whait for amd news
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@@Matlockization no thanks.
I love how you covered such a wide breath of cards . some other benchmarks are only looking at 3070 vs 3080 and 2080ti , but its really helpful for someone like me who is still on a Pascal GPU to see how they stack up
4pm in Saudi and getting to watch this at the end of the work day. Thanks Paul!
Thank you Paul for all the work this video probably took to make. Thank you for including the older cards! Thanks also for narrating the benchmarks so I could listen to the video without having to stare at my phone during work!
Yay! New graphics card that won't be in stock anywhere. This is genuinely the card I'm looking forward to the most out of the 3000-series line up. However, I'm still waiting to see what AMD has up their sleeves.
I’m new to pc building and preparing for building my first one and I’m really hoping to start off with this to make sure even though I’ve got a moderate budget it’ll still be future proofed
@@theultimategamer8537 well in the pc gaming roam there is nothing really future proof. Good luck with your build.
this is my 4the rtx3070 vid this evening, who else is watching all the tech channels?
All these videos today, and new AMD info soon. Its an exciting time :)
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PAUL YOU HAVE ME A HEART ATTACK!! "TODAY we have the slightly delayed launch of the 3070." I went into full panic mode paused the video and panic searched the internet. I thought I missed it. My God Paul, why you do this to me??
well it was originally going to launch on the 15th or something 😅😅😅
might as well be delayed. Good luck finding one.
It will be delayed until Q2 2021
@@isunshin999 im fine with that right around my b day
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As a 2080 TI owner and who prefers to play on my 4k tv with xbox controller this benchmark puts my mind at ease. The higher the resolution the more ram matters, and those 3 GB more really make a difference. Thanks for the review!
There are barely any games that utilize more then 8GB VRAM, even in 4k.
@@georgschulz8143 True, unless it's graphically very heavy there's really no need.
Thanks Paul! So far you have nailed it with your video with clear explanation using bench mark tests!
"How many more 3070s?"
"Best I can do is 2 more. Take it or leave it"
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Could've used a secondary axis on that Price to Performance graph at 14:42
I've been meaning to do that but I need to level up my Excel skills 😳
@@paulshardware you are pretty leveled up, this channel always has good visualizations to process.
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Awesome review!!! I am upgrading from a 1070 hopefully soon! I'm so excited!!!
I did it! Stayed up all night monitoring the sites and managed to snag a 3070 from Newegg.ca this morning in the first few seconds. After a minute everything was gone on all the Canadian sites I had pulled up except for a 2 fan Asus model that nobody appeared to want. I considered buying it just to sell on EBAY but after 30 years working at Ticketmaster trying to thwart scalpers, I couldn't bring myself to become one. Well I was at it I grabbed all the rest of the parts for my new dream build that will even kinda match my tatoo. I love dragons:)
CPU: Intel Core i7-10700K Comet Lake 8-Core 3.8 GHz
GPU: MSI GeForce RTX™ 3070 GAMING X TRIO
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z490 GAMING CARBON WIFI
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200
Cooler: MSI MAG CORELIQUID 240R AIO Liquid CPU Cooler
Power: Seasonic FOCUS PX-650 80+ Platinum Full Modular
Case: MSI MPG SEKIRA 100R Black Mid Tower
SATA: SAMSUNG 860 EVO Series 2.5" 1TB SATA III
NVME: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2 2280 1TB PCIe Gen 3.0 x4
Now I just have to tackle putting it together. It will only be my second build. I have never installed an AIO before the last one I had, my brother installed and it blew up and destroyed my computer shortly after he passed away. Which prompted me to search out all of you guys, Linus, Jay, Kyle etc. from his favorites to build my own computer. Thanks so much for all your videos over the years. It's supper helpful.
Any advice on maintenance for an AIO, so I don't have another one blow up?
Thats a mighty confident use of the term "launched".
I miss the RTX 2070 (super) in the benchmarks, which the RTX 3070 replaces at roughly $500.
They might lower the 2070S to $498🤣
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They could have at least made the effort to make the logo light up.
Great breakdown of the benchmark slides Paul, I watched a lot of these videos today and I feel like I took away the most helpful knowledge from your explanation with the benchmark slides. Keep up the good work!
I'm glad you include MSFS 2020 benchmarks since my new PC build will revolve around that sim.
Hardware unboxed also always includes that title as a benchmark.
I'm thinking sometime next Spring, I'll see what shakes out before upgrading my aging GTX 1080. The RTX 3070 seems like a solid upgrade for less than then nose bleed pricing of the RTX 3080/3090. In the meantime, my new PS5 will be a distraction.
I dont want to hear about 3k series cards until Nvidia fixes the supply issues.
Paul, appreciate the thorough review. For the money, the RTX 3070 looks like a winner. As you said, availability and AMD's offerings will be the biggest factors with this launch. Maybe AMD's announcements will cause some who were considering the 3070 to hold out a bit longer and, in turn, hopefully, free up some 3070 inventory.
Considering that AMD is only doing a reveal on the 28th it may be several weeks or another month before the cards actually launch.
@@billwiley7216 True, but if AMD can make some direct comparisons between their new cards and the RTX 30XX line, that will be a factor for many potential purchasers during the 3070's launch.
@@billwiley7216 Its gonna take months for Nvidia to get their heads out of their asses and stock up as well... "launch" doesnt mean anything for Nvidia...
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Well, the AMD launch event wasn't so great IMO. Powerful cards, don't get me wrong, but I'm not looking to pay more than $500. RTX 3070 it is.
Paul, thank you for including so many different cards. I'm sure it's a pain to get that much data together. In a follow-up video can we see it compared to the various 2070's (super, ti, etc., etc.), please?
It was nice to see that the performance is greater than the 2080 & close to 2080 ti. However, I would like to see how much of a improvement was made from one generation to the next. (I'm also hoping that this is mostly data you have saved somewhere & wont need to do a lot of extra bench-marking.)
As usual great video!
Paul’s Hardware is always my first stop for new product reviews. Thanks Paul...keep up the good work!
I built an entire high end system for the RTX3080 launch, but obviously wasn't able to get it so now I'm using my new system with my old gtx1070 still powering it. It was quite a boost though going from an i7-4770k to a i7-10700k.
Hi Paul, appreciate you including the 5700xt as well! Based on these improvements and inclusion of RTX, would this be a worthwhile upgrade?
Edit, is a 25% performance increase so most likely (not?) worth it. Not sure if RTX and that would be, interested to see what the future holds
@@jackcollette9716 yeah it's not worth it imo, I have 2070 super so we're in similar position
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@@Matlockization clearly a russian bot
I live in Argentina and I was planning to buy a 3070, but the economy is going to hell and low availability and uncertainty led me to buy a 2080 Super that was on sale on a computer store near my home, I bought it for 500$. I was feeling bad because I wanted the 3070, but seeing the scores I feel that I made the right choice. Thanks!
Thanks for doing what you do Paul!
OK youtube suggested Paul first so paul first it is! :) (Kyle, Linus, lana, Jay, steve, steve, eber will have to wait in line)
Managed to get a FE from Scan (UK) this morning. I have never clicked refresh so much in my life. Might have to sell it next year when refresh cards with more vram come out though.... Don't know how long it will last in modern titles at 1440p
Glad to see the little ol 2080 non-super repped here. I run that and always saddened when it's not included in testing anymore.
1:57 9.5 inches sounds perfect.
thats what she said
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I managed to secure a RTX 3070 (somehow) in Australia, haven't got it yet but its on its way. Not sure tbh whether the 3070 is a more compelling deal than the 3080. Aftermarket cards are around $1000 AUD and the 3080 is $1500 AUD. I'm not certain but I believe the 3070 was a good choice (or at least that what I'm telling myself now).
Awesome video!! Seriously well-rounded review. Thank you.
This card seems like the one to get as it's reasonably priced with good performance up to 1440, but especially good if you're doing competitive gaming at 1080.
For gaming @ 1080p a 3070 is the better value, but for 4k the 3080 has the better value, since it gives you 40% more performance for only $200 more.
@@georgschulz8143 Good point.
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I love the commentary as then i can do my home work and learn about GPU's!! Thx Pual!!
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Well i went from a 1660ti to a 2080ti for $600 and i still have my 1660ti for a second build, along with a case mobo cpu and psu i almost have another pc. I decided to skip the 30 series and my friend sold me his monster EVGA FTW3 that he only used a couple times. With the box and warranty left on it looking brand new with the LED in the front i thought it was worth the $600 with it being $1300-1600 on the market.
Thanks for including the 1070 and 1080p benchmarks. Looks like going up to a 3070 is he move. A little over double the performance.
1080p@144 is my use case so thanks for including those
I'm waiting on those Big Navi benchmarks.
As always... quality content. Thanks!
Would a Ryzen 2700x be too slow for the 3070?
Not at 4k
Never. My Ryzen 3600 and your Ryzen 2700x have the same performance, and I play cpu heavy games like Assasin Creed: Odyssey without ever even exceeding 90% cpu usage.
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Looking forward to get this in 2030 when it's in stock
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Does availability matter when you plan to buy a card 1 year after release, only if you plan to buy it from scalpers or wait on outside the store for them it might matter. But without a doubt 3070 is worth a lot with the performance/price while 2080 ti used has become less than 500 usd to be sold even with availability since they come with no warranty and same performance numbers + higher power consumption.
So, I bought Strix 2080ti oc for 349 usd with one year warranty... Seller claims that 3070 will chrush it at 1440p, haha, so happy I bought it for such small amount... :)
The seller must be stupid to sell you that card so cheap. I wish I could find a price like that on ebay. Not even close.
@@georgschulz8143 He is stupid, but he needed quick money. Anyway, 3070 is good, but 2080ti is still beast with 11gb of memory. I will wait 4 gen cards and then get 3080 for small amount
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So question how would this stack up to a gtx 1080? I'm thinking about getting this since it has ray tracing and is affordable since the 3080 is to far out of my budget. I also play at 1440p any advice is appreciated.
Typically newer technology is better. So I would recommend a rtx 2060 super instead, for just $50 more. And it has 8GB VRAM, that's enouph for 1440p.
Great job and thanks for the 1440p numbers. I'm waiting on big navi, but my brother has a Gsync 1440p and can't get a 3080 and plans on snagging a 3070 if possible instead.
Your brother should wait for a 3080 instead.
The 3080 is about 20% to 40% faster, and that is definitely worth paying $200 more.
In the past 40% was the leap between on gpu generation to the next, no kidding!
The 3080 appears to have a better price to performance ratio then the 3070.
@@georgschulz8143 he plays old school runescape on a 1440p 144hz ultrawide. Honestly his 980ti is still more than enough.
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Was able to grab a 3080 FE and looks like I made the right choice.
1080ti and 1440p are much appreciated in these videos!
Hey paul!! as a huge fan of Division 2, could you start including this game into your future benchmarks? :)
As a GTX 1070 current owner, I appreciate you including it in your benchmarks and hope you will include it in the future AMD GPU comparisons. I just might go ahead and try to get a 3070 if I can get one, unless AMD really blows it out of the water price/performance wise. FYI I play games on an AOC Ultrawide 3440 x 1440 x 144hz monitor and really need a GPU upgrade!
In that high resolution you should really think of an 3080 instead. The higher the resolution, the bigger the gap is between the 3070 and 3080. The 3080 has up to 40% more performance in 4k then the 3070, for only $200 more.
Good thinking ahead by using a Ryzen system to be able to compare these numbers to the upcoming Zen 3 CPUs.
The best graphs I have seen yet 👍
Just scored an MSI RTX 3070 Ventus OC 2x a few hours ago on Newegg and I'm very curious to see how it compares to the FE. Probably around the same performance, but fricking pumped to upgrade my Vega 56!
I have no plans to upgrade for a while, so I'm just here to see how far down the stack I am with my 5700 XT :)
Looks awesome!! Can’t wait to buy one used 4 years from now
I'm going to wait to see how the Rx 6800 compares before making my buying decision.
Out of the gpu’s listed, which we would say is the most cost efficient, without sacrificing performance? Thanks!
I'm considering trying to get one of these. Not sure yet though. The performance is impressive for the price and wattage but I really don't know if I want to deal with the hassle.
I'm definitely going to be trying to get one the second I can. I am also running 550w power supply on a b450 itx motherboard so I'm hoping to make some reviews since I finally have the opportunity if I get my hands on it. Will be making a tech channel if I do!
yaaaaaasss, the real card us 1080p gamers have been waiting for.
or just the one my poor ass has been waiting for. 🤣🤣
lmao sameee im brokee🤣
This is overkill for 1080p....upgrade your monitor first lol
Can afford 500 USD for a toy... I don't think you know what poor/broke means.
@@arrgghh1555 i know what saving for the past year so i could afford an upgrade means.
Not a toy
Im gonna try to get one Paul, Best Buy don’t fail me! I am building my first PC, going to be using a Ryzen 5 3600 CPU with it. Hoping that won’t cause any bottlenecking issues.
If the cards are still sold out by time RX 6000 series comes out, I'm switching teams for the first time in 15 years.
Also if they suddenly become in stock just in time. I'm switching teams anyway because that tells me they made a pseudo shortage on purpose.
Holy shit, Nvidia is so generous! They sent you half their entire stock!
Great graphs. Best 3070 review i have seen today. When new Ryzen comes out. Please show us scaling with rx5700xt to see if many of us would be better of buying a cpu rather than gpu this year.
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I do wish reviews like this would lead off with a brief summary "The XYZ is good / bad because of A, B, and C." and then go into detail. As is I generally skip to the conclusion then - if I wish - go back.
Is there a set time the release happens? Like midnight? Or 9am Like the 3080?
great vid Paul
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850w focus GX. This setup. nice efficiency for that much power. 12 pin modular cable OTW
i have a feeling the availability of of these cards in intentional so that consumers might just break down and by older cards, old inventory gets sold, people will still upgrade later once the 30 series cards are actually available. if AMD actually as cards available on launch i think im going to be switching to a full amd build. they are really killing it
😃!!!EXCELLENT!!!😃, But i think ill get The 16 gb Amd card that will be around the same price range. 😎 .
Nice to see 1080p results. It has become poor people only resolution and most tech tubers decide not to bother with it.
Dear Paul, since the RTX3070 is designed to be equivalent to the $1200 RTX2080, would you design a $1200 PC around the RTX3070?
Dollar to dollar 3070 is king.
I managed to get a 3070 on best buy, so happy, it will be here next week on the 5th
I have budget for gtx 1660s .should I wait ? Or just go for it? Is there any chance of update in that lineup??
Please don't have 1440p "as a bonus" only. According to Steam survey from this month, 65% are on 1080p, 7% on 1440p and only 2% on 4K. I understand that 4K is cool to see the "new" capabilities of the cards, but only 2% can use that info for actual use.
Marcus Fenix in our time line is pretty friendly
With the single 8 pin for a 70 series card in 2020 makes me think they could have made the 3070 better for the same price (not saying it isn't good)
I expected better performance with ray tracing compared with the 2080 ti.
This leaves the door wide open for Navi. Definitely waiting for ALL the benchmarks and real price points of both team red and green.
I feel I may support AMD this time in the hope the market gets back to somewhat realistic pricing.
Do you think 8gb vram for 3070 is enough, or should people wait for something from nvidia with more vram if they have any super or Ti variant?
For 3D rendering it seems it's cheaper to get two of these vs. 1 RTX 3090, although you'd end up with more or less the same amount of cuda cores (slightly more even). Only downside is you lose a slot and you have 2x220W vs. 1x350W in power consumption.
3090 uses WAY more than 350w, it spikes over 500W.
Amazing I always bring my notebook to class and compare my own numbers. Kudos
From 980ti to 3070 is great then. 100% extra perfomance on 1440p (or there about) for 500$. 700$ for 115% isn't a good deal then. That would be 40% more money for just 15% more performance.
I'm going to wait (like I have a choice) to see how the 3070 compares to the corresponding AMD GPU that's coming. Very curious how close in price and performance those products will be.
Fortunately, I hadn't planned on building a pc until early next year and hopefully there will be cards available in January or February.
For some reason when Paul showed it with the adapter, the card looked like Alfalfa from Little Rascals....
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An EVGA model of the 3070 will definitely be my next vid card...whenever that will be.
I’m gunna try and buy whatever one I can get my hands on. 1st pc ever so I’m excited either way lol. Shooting for the big Navi tho 🙌
I definitely do want a card from this generation since I am seeing the limitations of my 1070ti. AMD is included in my purchasing options but I am a little concerned about AMD drivers as they have been iffy for video cards in the past.
13:48 Oh boy, 406 Watts in idle... that card is more hungry than I am when I am bored... :D
It cant be lol, problably is 70 watts on idle.
4:36
AAAAAW HE IS SOOOOOOO CUUUUUUTE
THE DOG NOT THE CARD BTW
Fym that card is hella cute!!!
I can’t wait to buy the 30 series gpu in a couple years when it will finally be available to buy like a normal person!!