Excellent video. The hypocrisy of the unoriginality is mind-blowing. But I guess for all the young people out there. These are all new tricks. I wouldn't know I never watch that hot f****** garbage. With a production value of Omega level awesome. Which makes it all the worst. How good could this show have been if they weren't trying to destroy everything that came before it. But more importantly injecting their social sociopolitical ideologies into stories it has no business being. What a f****** shame.! Superb video. 👍
This video was EXCELLENT! So many genius associations I lost count. You deserve an award for this video that you may think of as folly, but it makes perfect sense and after watching it is comically logical and I can’t believe I missed all of these queues that YOU caught! Well done!
Yep, every episode is a little of something from another series with terrible dialog in-between. I have to watch 90s Trek to remember The quality of the scripts, ideas and wonder.
@@autecheee Funnily, it does. Characters do not count, so they have to start somewhere. The new uniforms, a new species (Kelpiens) or two (the president being a hybrid of some known species does technically count as new if we've never seen that particular kind of hybrid before), holographic interfaces, those drone-thingies (I like their idea tho, explains alot) and suddenly you get enough difference to count....
You just know Kurtzman has meetings where him & the writing staff binge watch a ton of science fiction content then decide "okay, what're we stealing this week?"
@@JasonM69 I found this on IMDB Contrary to what may be thought, the omission of the wave scene was not a studio decision; director James Cameron and producer Gale Anne Hurd had final cut as long as the movie was kept under an agreed-upon length of 135 minutes, and according to Cameron, the studio was even disappointed to see the wave scene go. However, the special effects of the scene had not been finished, and reactions from test audiences to the unfinished scene were mixed. So Cameron and Hurd were faced with the decision to either trim shots and parts of scenes away from other parts of the movie, or remove an entire subplot. They decided upon the latter, feeling that the first option would hurt the movie's focus and character development, and they also thought that the movie's theme still work without the wave scene, although less overtly. So the tidal wave scenes were never completely finished during post-production.
@@miketaterparker So literally because they didn't delay the release of the movie a bit, is why we never got to see this as the definitive theatrical cut. Jesus, yeah I can believe that, it sounds _just_ r-tarded enough to be true.
I'd love it more if all the std seasons turn out to be delusions and hallucinations of a completely mentally ill Burnham who's locked in an insane asylum somewhere in the federation. Or it turned out to be a bad holodeck program written by a mediocre hobby writer somewhere on an actual Starfleet ship.
@@johanwittens7712 literally something Tom Paris cooked up on Voyager.... Maybe the spore drive was a cathartic idea for him. Edit: Sorry guys, this actually makes too much sense, so they definitely won't do it lol. Rich Evans rules of Kurtzman Trek predictions #1: Imagine the dumbest thing you could do, and that's what they'll go with.
Back in 2014, Jonathan Rhys-Davies revealed in an interview some interesting bits about his departure from the TV series Sliders: "We did an episode like Tremors, one like Twister, one like The Night of the Living Dead and even one like Doctor Moreau's Island, using the film's original masks!" He found the writers were just "looting" these ideas rather than using these as a tribute, pointing to one episode where Quinn needed to cross an invisible bridge and on approaching the writer about it, discovered he had never seen Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade which Rhys-Davies had starred in and simply used the idea instead of toying with the meta nature of the scene. For Rhys-Davies, "the breaking point for me was when I walked in and saw the writers sitting around looking at a DVD of Species which had just been released and saying: 'Look, we could take a bit of that scene there and a bit of that scene there.'" Begins at 2:30 here th-cam.com/video/JKVPqIRJZZM/w-d-xo.html While I have no doubt that this sort of behavior is very common in the movie and TV industry, I have a feeling that Kurtzman and the other NuTrek writers are literally doing the exact same thing down to a T, maybe with some copyright lawyers near them to avoid any lawsuits.
All these rip offs prove to me that Anas Abdin was correct that Star Trek Discovery ripped him off and after his lawsuit was dismissed that Start Trek became more blatant about it.
The first season of Sliders was absolutely brilliant. Good acting. Original ideas and a kind of sardonic humor that was kind of appropriate (think the first episode in Soviet America where the State approved lawyer in that universe was an amulance chaser with the same bullshit motto, delightful!). It is a terrible shame how it degenerated so rapidly.
I was on Instagram & people commented on how they like New Trek, saying it's well written & adapting Star Trek to the modern times. Oh, yes, gatekeeping the fans that have legitimate complaints of New Trek, saying, "if you don't like it, don't watch it."
Imagine claiming to be a star trek fan and failing to understand it's principles lol. I'm sure there's a group of Make Star Trek Great Again somewhere for you lol
@@michaeldublg But they thought they were super awesome and woke for saying it. Because anybody who disagrees with this NuTrek disaster MUST be a Trump supporter. It's as pathetic as the obvious pandering and politicking in the show itself. Allegory is one thing, blatant in your face shoving 21st century problems into a show about the future is another.
@@patricklee5239 with how Star Trek has been leading this whole "robot threat" plot (STD and Pic) I wouldn't put it past them to have that as their leading plot eventually.
Hey at least those lifetime Marathon movies when they cry it's an appropriate moment for them to cry don't compare Star Trek Discovery to lifetime movies because at least lifetime they actually give a shit
Well in this one she screams, because her first officer captain said how wonderfully therapeutic it is. I like to imagine the walls aren't entirely soundproof and some crewmen went "WTF WAS THAT?"
WOW. They shamelessly stole the plot of Arrival, down to the language forming on the barrier and the aliens being Squid creature who communicated with symbols instead of words. If I was the original screenwriter, i'd contact my lawyer
For all of the ripping off and retreading of old stories that they do, you'd think they'd go back and revisit some of the more interesting mysteries from actual Star Trek, like the Farpoint jellyfish, the parasite hive mind from TNG "Conspiracy", hell they could even have gone looking for the machine planet that made V'Ger from Voyager 6. But then again, that would require them to actually watch real Star Trek, and that's clearly too nerdy for them.
I mean, they got sued to hell and back for Season 1 being a DIRECT rip off of a guy's book about tardigrades. And they learned nothing. These people are hacks. All of Hollywood is hacks ripping off each others and other people's works. And they are incapable of learning.
And the science was more sound than STD (sonar In space???)Especially concerning the lead and his adventures. The ship takes him from earth he’s in space for what seems a few hours, but according to Einstein’s general relativity, over a decade passed on earth so when he returns, his little brother is now a teenager.
4:24 So, a thousand years in the future, with unfathomable advanced made in computer technology and artificial intelligence...they still need to rotate an image, manually, to see if it superimposes onto another one? Well, I mean, obviously, there's the need to make Mikey look like a genius. Without actually being able to WRITE something genuinely smart. And without risking making your target audience feel alienated, intellectually inferior, or just having their eyes glaze over because you're certain they have the attention span of a three year old.
Not to mention it's incredibly unlikely that the alien's model of the molecule would be close enough to the alignment of the human model that it only had to be rotated around tiny bit in order to match.
You’re right, STD. I should be watching much better sci-fi like Close Encounters, the Abyss, and, because that thumbnail triggered a memory, Flight Of The Navigator.
@@solar2607 This is such a childish thing to say. But then, this seems to be the audience, writers and society in general these days. Overgrown children.
@@theonlyjacknicole "Don't like that the stuff being shown on TV is literal trash? Round up millions of dollars and create your own show!" There, paraphrased your thoughts more clearly. The problem is not that people should be creating more TV shows, it's that the new TV shows are garbage with terrible reception from fans of the franchise.* *With the exception of Star Trek Lower Decks, which was received very well and is actually extremely good.
Nice work! This episode was "good" for Discovery, but still a total disappointment objectively. I was rolling my eyes at its wholy unoriginal mishmash of already done alien story points...my only solace was knowing you'd have a field day with it! I thought of every reference you did here except for Sphere. But that's because sphere is dumb to begin with so don't count it as a primary source. ;)
There’s a difference between revisiting ages old themes (the Hero’s Journey is one that is as old as civilization itself) and just seeing a movie or tv show and just mimicking that. Kurtzman Trek does the latter.
So, they just ripped off content from other movies/television shows and try to make it as though that they themselves came up with it first... 🤔 Kind of how they are telling us that Burnham is the first black female starship captain in Star trek, which is completely false.
Yeah, I get that the episode borrowed heavily from these other things but this did a terrible job conveying that. The order was off and a lot of these clips had nothing to do with the supposed point being made.
It’s a Pineal Gland. In the Time Travel scene in The Voyage Home (while Spock is navigating - also 1986) the bridge crew experience CGI visions : including a pineal gland that morphs into a humpback whale. Expect to see the same thing on Picard, while Borg-Queen-in-a-jar is navigating back to 2024 using the Solar Slingshot to create a time fissure. Round, round, get-a-round, I get around -
It took them three and a half seasons to finally bring some science fiction themes (universal language). And they could do without so much drama. All that tarka shit is pointless. 10C is dangerous enough without being malicious. Tarka is malicious.
reusing and re-telling stories is incredibly common, the thing is a good writer will take someone else idea and build upon it, provide their take, twist it, create something new, and know when something new needs to be created or the story simply needs to be retold/continued/ended. A bad writer will not know any of this nuance, see a cool scene, and then add it to their creation. The story of attempting to break a communication barrier with an extraterrestrial is not a new story, it is one that has been told many of times, the thing is they took all of the most recent retellings and takes. They did not bring up a new idea, a new problem, nor did they solve it in a unique way. It would be one thing to redo a story like the day the earth stood still as it has been decades sense that one's been told, but they stole stuff from recent ones that did not need to be retold/were already retold recently.
@@NitpickingNerd I don't think it makes a difference that it borrows some ideas. And it does. From arrival, close encounters and other classic sources. It's done really well here.
Star trek isnt theirs though. Theyve made that very clear from how little the know the canon, who has worked on star trek in the past, and how much they literally intentional attack and are outspoken about their hate for the fans and the creator of star trek.
At this stage StarTrek is spelled as "Orville"...and they were supposed to be just making a 'comedic' parody of Trek...when in reality STD is the real joke of a parody
The Trimaxion Drone Ship from Planet Phaelon! (Flight of the Navigator) - such a beautiful, functional, and versatile design that I WISH we could see again (just not a remake)
Voyager in the Delta Quadrant, Enterprise in the Delphic Expanse, STD beyond the Galactic Rim. - Lost in space.... Déjà'vu. - Bust of course Game of Trek is going to claim they are ground breaking original first time crusaders again. so sad...
The "snapshot" for this video just so happens to be the ship from the disney movie The Flight of the Navigator. Which first aired many years ago. Way to come up with something new......
It was just a matter of time to happen again, as it happened MANY times in ST: Voyager - it consists of easter eggs from: Predator, Alien, DragonBall and many other known tv series and movies.
You missed Babylon 5!!!!!! Season 3 Episode 3, Probe sent to B5 demanding answers to complex questions and offering advanced tech if answered correctly, and when all are answered it explodes destroying them instead.
When the 10C actually meet, it felt like a cheap iteration of the Arrival septopods, though not terrible; the chemical communication though was kinda meh, as if I’m for one moment convinced this is you characters genuinely hammering out the problem
Tom Paris and Chakotay was taken hostage by the Krenim and Tom Paris become friends with one of the Krenim crew playing a game together ☺ So Year Of Hell ☺ I have the box with all 7 seasons of Star Trek Voyager called The Full Journey ☺ Qapla'
Other than a Thanos *SNAP* , I Didn't think it was possible to repair the disaster that is STD, but you did it, and exposed that the std writers are thieving hacks.
They used the water effect for the planet but not for the changeling effect in discovery They didn’t have enough budget to create a different environment in the sphere thing Why didn’t they create something that could speak there language they can replicate there ship Imagine trying to have a complex conversation with 10c with all those pheromones you would have to continually replicate them
Wow. This is amazing! This is the first time to see this channel. You had me cracking up 😂🤣😂 I don't see watch disco. Lots of reasons why Here's 2. 1 - It's Terrible. Ridiculous characters, plots, & no character development, except for maybe Booger, and his Space Cat. Apparently, they are bad guys now. I heard a rumor, that they were running from the Feds, so they could go join the Guardians of the Galaxy. To replace Rocket & Star-boy. (Sounds like a comic). And 2 - Mikey, Ambassador Spock's, (seriously, we just forgot to mention it for 50 years), illigitament full blood earth sister, is the only solution we need to any problems we may ever face now, or in the Future. Personal, or Galactic, or in this case, Extra-Galactic.
but how/why alien code would translate so directly into English? binary is a vastly more logical base code to comunicate with, than English with it's convoluted rules of grammar. As for numbering the keyboard keys idea? that's a bit arrogant. most likely easyer to just teach them binary first, then English later. Most likely even Morse code would be convoluted giberish, to someone who was so different.
In sphere they werent really communicating with aliens sothe numbering the keys was afactor of who yey were actually talking to being a maths genius. it turned out they were talking to one of the peoples subconcious. The sohere was giving them all the ability to manifest things into reality. So one person created the character they were talking to. Dislike of squid created a giant squid. Anothers fear of drownings was destroying the vessel. If i remember right. Its one of those movies i can never remember all the scenes or what order they are in.
Is Burnham a priest now? Her costume looks like a priest's collar and she's talking about a being a bridge between the others and a higher intelligence...she's gone from mutineer to captain, and now time-traveler and priestess extraordinaire?
What i dont get is when the bridge crew ...whatever their names are beam into the shuttle bay and brain storm right there in like 5 minutes of talk and solve the problem of communication.
my review of this episode here : th-cam.com/video/veHpJnRkwuI/w-d-xo.html
I hope you do a dread pirate book video.
Excellent video. The hypocrisy of the unoriginality is mind-blowing. But I guess for all the young people out there. These are all new tricks.
I wouldn't know I never watch that hot f****** garbage. With a production value of Omega level awesome. Which makes it all the worst.
How good could this show have been if they weren't trying to destroy everything that came before it. But more importantly injecting their social sociopolitical ideologies into stories it has no business being.
What a f****** shame.!
Superb video. 👍
@@I86282 I can't stop myself but I'm always so angry by the end of the episode.
😒 to much editing and it don't follow the story
This video was EXCELLENT! So many genius associations I lost count. You deserve an award for this video that you may think of as folly, but it makes perfect sense and after watching it is comically logical and I can’t believe I missed all of these queues that YOU caught! Well done!
Yep, every episode is a little of something from another series with terrible dialog in-between. I have to watch 90s Trek to remember The quality of the scripts, ideas and wonder.
But is it at least 25% different in design….maybe changing the colors counts as 24%?
@@autecheee Funnily, it does. Characters do not count, so they have to start somewhere. The new uniforms, a new species (Kelpiens) or two (the president being a hybrid of some known species does technically count as new if we've never seen that particular kind of hybrid before), holographic interfaces, those drone-thingies (I like their idea tho, explains alot) and suddenly you get enough difference to count....
You just know Kurtzman has meetings
where him & the writing staff binge watch
a ton of science fiction content then decide
"okay, what're we stealing this week?"
Wait till they discover Babylon 5...
@@MD2389 Oh god. I am not ready to see Jack The Ripper in this.
No they don't. They sit there and read wikipedia. Then they all say "Derp! Wamen is bestest! Blacks wamens are bestest of evar! Derrrrrrp!"
@@MD2389 that was already ripped off by creators of DS9 xD
@@MD2389 Kurtzman and co will be like: "These guys ripped off Mass Effect too."
I love The Abyss, great movie.
Never could figure out why they deleted that scene, it basically finishes the plot.
Time constraints. Movie studios want the movie they made to be shown as many times as possible in theaters. Shorter runtimes = more showings.
@@miketaterparker but it was 5 min, and was literally the conclusion to the story.
@@JasonM69 I found this on IMDB
Contrary to what may be thought, the omission of the wave scene was not a studio decision; director James Cameron and producer Gale Anne Hurd had final cut as long as the movie was kept under an agreed-upon length of 135 minutes, and according to Cameron, the studio was even disappointed to see the wave scene go. However, the special effects of the scene had not been finished, and reactions from test audiences to the unfinished scene were mixed. So Cameron and Hurd were faced with the decision to either trim shots and parts of scenes away from other parts of the movie, or remove an entire subplot. They decided upon the latter, feeling that the first option would hurt the movie's focus and character development, and they also thought that the movie's theme still work without the wave scene, although less overtly. So the tidal wave scenes were never completely finished during post-production.
@@miketaterparker ok that makes sense.
@@miketaterparker So literally because they didn't delay the release of the movie a bit, is why we never got to see this as the definitive theatrical cut. Jesus, yeah I can believe that, it sounds _just_ r-tarded enough to be true.
The Abyss and Arrival are getting their lawyers to join the back of the line of all the other franchise lawyers waiting to sue Kurrzman
Id love for the Krenim Imperium to erase Discovery existence.
I'd love it more if all the std seasons turn out to be delusions and hallucinations of a completely mentally ill Burnham who's locked in an insane asylum somewhere in the federation.
Or it turned out to be a bad holodeck program written by a mediocre hobby writer somewhere on an actual Starfleet ship.
Hail Annorax!
@@johanwittens7712 literally something Tom Paris cooked up on Voyager....
Maybe the spore drive was a cathartic idea for him.
Edit: Sorry guys, this actually makes too much sense, so they definitely won't do it lol. Rich Evans rules of Kurtzman Trek predictions #1: Imagine the dumbest thing you could do, and that's what they'll go with.
This.
I want Discovery to spore jump into Hell, like the Event Horizon did.
th-cam.com/video/Yd6faNd1No4/w-d-xo.html
Yeah, but make it as one way ticket please.
"Liberate Tutame Ex Inferis..."
@@MajorGrin 🤯
I think it already did and that's why we're being tortured with this show... hell is mundanity.
Back in 2014, Jonathan Rhys-Davies revealed in an interview some interesting bits about his departure from the TV series Sliders:
"We did an episode like Tremors, one like Twister, one like The Night of the Living Dead and even one like Doctor Moreau's Island, using the film's original masks!" He found the writers were just "looting" these ideas rather than using these as a tribute, pointing to one episode where Quinn needed to cross an invisible bridge and on approaching the writer about it, discovered he had never seen Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade which Rhys-Davies had starred in and simply used the idea instead of toying with the meta nature of the scene.
For Rhys-Davies, "the breaking point for me was when I walked in and saw the writers sitting around looking at a DVD of Species which had just been released and saying: 'Look, we could take a bit of that scene there and a bit of that scene there.'"
Begins at 2:30 here th-cam.com/video/JKVPqIRJZZM/w-d-xo.html
While I have no doubt that this sort of behavior is very common in the movie and TV industry, I have a feeling that Kurtzman and the other NuTrek writers are literally doing the exact same thing down to a T, maybe with some copyright lawyers near them to avoid any lawsuits.
All these rip offs prove to me that Anas Abdin was correct that Star Trek Discovery ripped him off and after his lawsuit was dismissed that Start Trek became more blatant about it.
@@MarvelDcImage Yup. Anytime the discussion of Discovery's blatant plagiarism comes up, that lawsuit is literally the first thing that comes to mind.
The first season of Sliders was absolutely brilliant. Good acting. Original ideas and a kind of sardonic humor that was kind of appropriate (think the first episode in Soviet America where the State approved lawyer in that universe was an amulance chaser with the same bullshit motto, delightful!).
It is a terrible shame how it degenerated so rapidly.
God, there isn't a inch of originality with these writers at all is there?
Nope. But therefore all the diversity and representation in the world!
Rest in peace Star Trek, real fans will miss you😞😞😞
I was on Instagram & people commented on how they like New Trek, saying it's well written & adapting Star Trek to the modern times. Oh, yes, gatekeeping the fans that have legitimate complaints of New Trek, saying, "if you don't like it, don't watch it."
Imagine claiming to be a star trek fan and failing to understand it's principles lol. I'm sure there's a group of Make Star Trek Great Again somewhere for you lol
@@princejones0077
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Sorry, I don't know what that means.
Or how it applies to my comment.
@@michaeldublg But they thought they were super awesome and woke for saying it.
Because anybody who disagrees with this NuTrek disaster MUST be a Trump supporter. It's as pathetic as the obvious pandering and politicking in the show itself.
Allegory is one thing, blatant in your face shoving 21st century problems into a show about the future is another.
No wonder the aliens from the 5th Element took the stones away from Earth. They've decided we no longer deserve protection.
Hey did you know that Lelu was a representation of the demon Lilith?
"we got away with it last time, so lets just copy EVERYTHING!"
New Trek and its hard on for 3d interfacing. This show puts me in a constant state of rolling my eyes.
shaky cam
It's a popular scifi trope, mostly because it's one of the cheapest special effects to make. That's literally the only reason.
One of the original emoji. *Eyeroll* it's even in 3d!
you probably watched this video on your Nokia 3310
You still watch this garbage? I stopped watching after episode 3, season 1
Remember when the Doctor had a perfect sphere? That one contained Daleks.
I'm not sure whether Daleks invading STD would be good since they'd kill everyone, or bad because STD would infect the Daleks and make them suck, too.
@@patricklee5239 with how Star Trek has been leading this whole "robot threat" plot (STD and Pic) I wouldn't put it past them to have that as their leading plot eventually.
@@patricklee5239 Michael will just cry and short circuit them the second they come out!
God she cries in literally every episode. More emotions than a damn Lifetime movie network marathon. Smfh. Caca trek
Hey at least those lifetime Marathon movies when they cry it's an appropriate moment for them to cry don't compare Star Trek Discovery to lifetime movies because at least lifetime they actually give a shit
Well in this one she screams, because her first officer captain said how wonderfully therapeutic it is. I like to imagine the walls aren't entirely soundproof and some crewmen went "WTF WAS THAT?"
WOW. They shamelessly stole the plot of Arrival, down to the language forming on the barrier and the aliens being Squid creature who communicated with symbols instead of words. If I was the original screenwriter, i'd contact my lawyer
We know they like to plagiarize, it's a habit at this point.
@@EvanG529 And the idea of language based on molecules comes from Stargate, as shown in the episode Torments of Tantalus.
For all of the ripping off and retreading of old stories that they do, you'd think they'd go back and revisit some of the more interesting mysteries from actual Star Trek, like the Farpoint jellyfish, the parasite hive mind from TNG "Conspiracy", hell they could even have gone looking for the machine planet that made V'Ger from Voyager 6.
But then again, that would require them to actually watch real Star Trek, and that's clearly too nerdy for them.
I mean, they got sued to hell and back for Season 1 being a DIRECT rip off of a guy's book about tardigrades. And they learned nothing. These people are hacks. All of Hollywood is hacks ripping off each others and other people's works. And they are incapable of learning.
Flight of the Navigator did it better, plus that Treavor Rabin soundtrack is crazy iconic......
I am so glad I'm not the only one who thought of that movie.
So glad someone else noticed Kurtzman stealing something else and shyting it into STD's Toliet.
And the science was more sound than STD (sonar In space???)Especially concerning the lead and his adventures. The ship takes him from earth he’s in space for what seems a few hours, but according to Einstein’s general relativity, over a decade passed on earth so when he returns, his little brother is now a teenager.
Was wondering how many noticed
This is what I came to the comment section for. Thanks guys, y’all didn’t disappoint me. I feel like watching Flight Of The Navigator right now.
It amazes me that people still watch Discovery.
Car crash television. You don't want to see the carnage, but you're compelled to see how bad it is.
4:24 So, a thousand years in the future, with unfathomable advanced made in computer technology and artificial intelligence...they still need to rotate an image, manually, to see if it superimposes onto another one?
Well, I mean, obviously, there's the need to make Mikey look like a genius. Without actually being able to WRITE something genuinely smart. And without risking making your target audience feel alienated, intellectually inferior, or just having their eyes glaze over because you're certain they have the attention span of a three year old.
Yeah that was as impressive as if she had picked up a square block and put it in the square hole.
Very perceptive
Not to mention it's incredibly unlikely that the alien's model of the molecule would be close enough to the alignment of the human model that it only had to be rotated around tiny bit in order to match.
You’re right, STD. I should be watching much better sci-fi like Close Encounters, the Abyss, and, because that thumbnail triggered a memory, Flight Of The Navigator.
This just makes me want to watch Arrival again. Damn classic it is!
Arrival: brilliant, original
DiscoTreque: aphonic, fraudulent
I truly LOATHE these new shows…
Easy. Don't watch them. I like watching them so too bad.
@@solar2607 Good for you, I don’t watch them.
@@solar2607 This is such a childish thing to say. But then, this seems to be the audience, writers and society in general these days. Overgrown children.
Then create your own.
@@theonlyjacknicole "Don't like that the stuff being shown on TV is literal trash? Round up millions of dollars and create your own show!"
There, paraphrased your thoughts more clearly. The problem is not that people should be creating more TV shows, it's that the new TV shows are garbage with terrible reception from fans of the franchise.*
*With the exception of Star Trek Lower Decks, which was received very well and is actually extremely good.
Nice work! This episode was "good" for Discovery, but still a total disappointment objectively. I was rolling my eyes at its wholy unoriginal mishmash of already done alien story points...my only solace was knowing you'd have a field day with it!
I thought of every reference you did here except for Sphere. But that's because sphere is dumb to begin with so don't count it as a primary source. ;)
I like how in _Star Trek: Discovery_ they've abandoned the metric system and went back to Imperial units.
You forgot about Babylon 5.
Fiction has a history borrowing from other works. But there is a limit. A point where you cross from inspiration to just laziness.
There’s a difference between revisiting ages old themes (the Hero’s Journey is one that is as old as civilization itself) and just seeing a movie or tv show and just mimicking that. Kurtzman Trek does the latter.
Isn't that the ship from "Fight of the Navigator?
Can't believe I'm saying this, but... umm, "at least it finally doesn't look like Star Wars"??
Mysterious thing shows up.
Discovery writers, "WHAT THE HELL IS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE? HYUK HYUK HYUK!"
Real Star Trek writers: "Fascinating."
Now I want to watch Flight of the Navigator.
th-cam.com/video/RbuOHKlvtz8/w-d-xo.html
I really hate that Iron Man popularized the idea of holographic interfaces. Now everyone wants to do it.
When you're incapable of simply telling a good story, rip off other works and give a shiny new GC look.
That hyperfield surface should be flat if they were only 200k-km from it.
So, they just ripped off content from other movies/television shows and try to make it as though that they themselves came up with it first... 🤔 Kind of how they are telling us that Burnham is the first black female starship captain in Star trek, which is completely false.
Wait. Please don’t tell me that this mish-mash actually makes more sense than the show on its own.
Yeah, I get that the episode borrowed heavily from these other things but this did a terrible job conveying that. The order was off and a lot of these clips had nothing to do with the supposed point being made.
One of your best, Major. (And that's saying something!) 🖖
It’s a Pineal Gland.
In the Time Travel scene in The Voyage Home (while Spock is navigating - also 1986) the bridge crew experience CGI visions : including a pineal gland that morphs into a humpback whale.
Expect to see the same thing on Picard, while Borg-Queen-in-a-jar is navigating back to 2024 using the Solar Slingshot to create a time fissure.
Round, round, get-a-round,
I get around -
Yeaa, I was humming the Five Tones at that translating scenes. love that movie.
a bit of contact in there too when she analyzes and rotates the language schematics
It took them three and a half seasons to finally bring some science fiction themes (universal language). And they could do without so much drama. All that tarka shit is pointless. 10C is dangerous enough without being malicious. Tarka is malicious.
When you audience is too young to know all the different scifi your creativity borrowing from lol this is honestly interesting but also funny...
Thumbnail:- the navigator
(only 80’s children will know this) lol 😂
reusing and re-telling stories is incredibly common, the thing is a good writer will take someone else idea and build upon it, provide their take, twist it, create something new, and know when something new needs to be created or the story simply needs to be retold/continued/ended. A bad writer will not know any of this nuance, see a cool scene, and then add it to their creation.
The story of attempting to break a communication barrier with an extraterrestrial is not a new story, it is one that has been told many of times, the thing is they took all of the most recent retellings and takes. They did not bring up a new idea, a new problem, nor did they solve it in a unique way. It would be one thing to redo a story like the day the earth stood still as it has been decades sense that one's been told, but they stole stuff from recent ones that did not need to be retold/were already retold recently.
Masterclass in editing! Best season finale yet! (This, not discovery, if anyone's confused)
Oh, great! They stole the ship from Disney's Flight of the Navigator!!!
Should have been obvious after Picard plagiarized Mass Effect.
Don't forget the 1980s movie batteries not included but in the, they stole thier robots from that movie.
"Flight of the Navigator" I loved that movie as a kid!
Sta Trek: Cut'n'Paste
This is one of the best episodes of Star Trek I've seen in 40 years. It'll be remembered as a classic.
it would have if it came out before "arrival"
@@NitpickingNerd I don't think it makes a difference that it borrows some ideas. And it does. From arrival, close encounters and other classic sources. It's done really well here.
Star Trek: Plagarism is at it again.
The CBS logo is the DMA!
Very astute!
wow how many rips offs can they do in one episode!!! now we know
Could they at least attempt to be Star Trek?
They've stolen so many ideas and imageries from others Sci-fi series except their own.
Star trek isnt theirs though. Theyve made that very clear from how little the know the canon, who has worked on star trek in the past, and how much they literally intentional attack and are outspoken about their hate for the fans and the creator of star trek.
At this stage StarTrek is spelled as "Orville"...and they were supposed to be just making a 'comedic' parody of Trek...when in reality STD is the real joke of a parody
The Trimaxion Drone Ship from Planet Phaelon! (Flight of the Navigator) - such a beautiful, functional, and versatile design that I WISH we could see again (just not a remake)
this episode was really good, too good for Discovery, i mean it.
Voyager in the Delta Quadrant, Enterprise in the Delphic Expanse, STD beyond the Galactic Rim.
- Lost in space.... Déjà'vu.
- Bust of course Game of Trek is going to claim they are ground breaking original first time crusaders again. so sad...
The "snapshot" for this video just so happens to be the ship from the disney movie The Flight of the Navigator. Which first aired many years ago.
Way to come up with something new......
I’m not worried.
Super Space Jeezuz Mikie always wins! 🤣🖖✨
It was just a matter of time to happen again, as it happened MANY times in ST: Voyager - it consists of easter eggs from: Predator, Alien, DragonBall and many other known tv series and movies.
You missed Babylon 5!!!!!!
Season 3 Episode 3, Probe sent to B5 demanding answers to complex questions and offering advanced tech if answered correctly, and when all are answered it explodes destroying them instead.
When the 10C actually meet, it felt like a cheap iteration of the Arrival septopods, though not terrible; the chemical communication though was kinda meh, as if I’m for one moment convinced this is you characters genuinely hammering out the problem
Is there not one original thought in the STD's "writers" room?
20 yrs from now discovery will still b appreciated maybe more then it is now. Frfr
But remember, STD is still 25 percent different from the sources Kurtzman stole from
you know you're dealing with some advanced aliens, if they have Smooth liquidy things!
Amazing. Adults wrote this stuff.
So there was all these weird indeterminate alien shapes and then we have Stacey Abrams, makes perfect sense.
nice mashup! 👍😁
Man I wanted the spaceship from Flight of the Navigator so bad. It's so beautiful and magnificent in its design.
It still looks great like 35 years later.
The language part had me thinking of the 'Torment of Tantalus' episode in stargate sg-1.
They use a lot of words to not say anything.
All these amazing visuals being wasted like this is revolting
Thank you Major, now i know NEVER to watch season 4. Thank you from he bottom of my heart.
Anyone else was hoping they sent the wrong message and gotten blown up.🤣
Tom Paris and Chakotay was taken hostage by the Krenim and Tom Paris become friends with one of the Krenim crew playing a game together ☺ So Year Of Hell ☺ I have the box with all 7 seasons of Star Trek Voyager called The Full Journey ☺ Qapla'
STAR TREK WE DID NOT DISCOVER IT
Other than a Thanos *SNAP* , I Didn't think it was possible to repair the disaster that is STD, but you did it, and exposed that the std writers are thieving hacks.
Space politics seems very complicated.
They used the water effect for the planet but not for the changeling effect in discovery
They didn’t have enough budget to create a different environment in the sphere thing
Why didn’t they create something that could speak there language they can replicate there ship
Imagine trying to have a complex conversation with 10c with all those pheromones you would have to continually replicate them
Wow. This is amazing!
This is the first time to see this channel. You had me cracking up 😂🤣😂 I don't see watch disco. Lots of reasons why Here's 2.
1 - It's Terrible. Ridiculous characters, plots, & no character development, except for maybe Booger, and his Space Cat. Apparently, they are bad guys now. I heard a rumor, that they were running from the Feds, so they could go join the Guardians of the Galaxy. To replace Rocket & Star-boy. (Sounds like a comic).
And 2 - Mikey, Ambassador Spock's, (seriously, we just forgot to mention it for 50 years), illigitament full blood earth sister, is the only solution we need to any problems we may ever face now, or in the Future. Personal, or Galactic, or in this case, Extra-Galactic.
Don't forget the crying! Every episode with maybe a couple of exceptions, she cries. Odd for a character raised by Vulcans.
@@andrewproctor3922 lots and lots of crying 😭 Not to mention the sicko torture stuff. th-cam.com/video/-nF_nD9ikD4/w-d-xo.html
LOL, now if you could only fit the TARDIS in this somehow! :D
You forgot the alien sphere from Independence Day Resurgence! :)
It was shown in an older video
@@NitpickingNerd Oh, must've forgot. Brain is like a sieve these days. :)
Netflix star trek will haunt us forever. Thank you Major for opening the gates of hell sooner rather than later.
I love how you put into video what I put into my Facebook critiques.
Hahaha that anomaly turns into CBS logo is ingenious
but how/why alien code would translate so directly into English? binary is a vastly more logical base code to comunicate with, than English with it's convoluted rules of grammar. As for numbering the keyboard keys idea? that's a bit arrogant. most likely easyer to just teach them binary first, then English later. Most likely even Morse code would be convoluted giberish, to someone who was so different.
In sphere they werent really communicating with aliens sothe numbering the keys was afactor of who yey were actually talking to being a maths genius. it turned out they were talking to one of the peoples subconcious. The sohere was giving them all the ability to manifest things into reality. So one person created the character they were talking to. Dislike of squid created a giant squid. Anothers fear of drownings was destroying the vessel. If i remember right.
Its one of those movies i can never remember all the scenes or what order they are in.
I'm starting to wonder if Kurtzman ever had an original idea in his life?
Lol that's funny coming from a Russian lol
Why not. It all makes just as much sense.
Is Burnham a priest now? Her costume looks like a priest's collar and she's talking about a being a bridge between the others and a higher intelligence...she's gone from mutineer to captain, and now time-traveler and priestess extraordinaire?
What i dont get is when the bridge crew ...whatever their names are beam into the shuttle bay and brain storm right there in like 5 minutes of talk and solve the problem of communication.
tell me, how much hdd space you have?
Why is the craft from flight of the navigator doing here?
You forgot Ocarina of Time.
pew pew, Michael Burnham. Problem solved!
Did you see the similarities to Pink Floyd's The Wall and the latest episode of Picard?
I haven't watched some of the mentioned titles but its fine for me since its sci fi show.
Best season yet.
What is elegant about Burnham's reunification talks?
Glad I gave up after season 2
Burnham is totally not pulling off the predator hair do at all