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You wouldn't have the answers if they bit you. But now, there is no condemnation, and behold, I tell you a mystery. If you don't know what that means then you aren't the answer man.
No ONE DOES NOT, I repeat, DOES NOT need to buy Hanks book. I'm sure he is a good guy however one thing that has always bothered me is why not ask the HOLY SPIRIT to show you the meaning of scripture...Oh that's right for those of you who say why not ? Do youthing the people of old bought books to see what another man's opinion is ? You buy 10 books and liable to come away with 6 diffrent thoughts. READ the WORD OF GOD and ASK GOD to give you clarity.
Part of the problem is the proliferation of so called "study bibles" with their own theological biases. When I was in Bible College there was a joke about a particular study bible: "Genesis by Schofield, footnotes by Moses"!
@acts20gracebelieverblog93 You totally missed my point. I was referencing "study bibles" where the biblical text and its interpretation are interwoven on the same page. This can lead to the xtudy notes gaining a quasi inspired status. I made no mention of theological textbooks.
Bought the Apocalypse Code, over 10 years ago and it is highlighted, and notes in the margin, I love how you always direct our attention to wha the Bible says about, what the Bible says. First reading was tough but subsequent readings it becomes more evident, just as the ,ore I read the Bible more I learn the whole console of the Word of God. I have a few of Mr Demares books too.
@@andreastarks2780 how true that is. Thank goodness for places like CRI, and others, remind us we are not alone. Hay if you like Mr Hank, you might enjoy, Steve Gregg, TH-cam channel, more like minded stuff. God bless you
@@andreastarks2780 yes, I’m out numbered at where I go, can’t go anymore, there support of Israel is unconscionable. Don’t feel lonely my friend psalm 10:9 God will never leave you or forsake you. And let’s all pray for peace and for God to stop the madness of Israel.God bless
And Abram went up OUT OF EGYPT, he, and his wife, and all that he had, and Lot with him, into the south. Gen13:1 And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the Lord's law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the Lord brought thee OUT OF EGYPT. Exo13:9 God brought him forth OUT OF EGYPT; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn: he shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce them through with his arrows. Num24:8 When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son OUT OF EGYPT. Hos11:1 And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, OUT OF EGYPT have I called my son. Mat2:15 > Just the same, each believer is a child called out of Egypt and its bondage... (I agree)
A lot to lose for changing position, but they’re being paid to teach something that isn’t profitable (in a godly sense). So what’s the profit in that? Blessings to you guys. I appreciate this video.
If the tribulation Jesus mentioned in Mathew 24 was referring to the destruction of Jerusalem that happened soon after in AD70, why did He say in verse 21 that the tribulation wiil be "such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be."? Certainly there have been far greater tribulations that came after the destruction of Jerusalem in AD70, no? And then in verse 30, Jesus says that after that tribulation, "all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. " So, when, where and how has that event of the coming of the Son of Man happened after Jerusalum was destroyed?
@miketanctutube Incorrect. No other tribulation compared to the Great Tribulation Jesus spoke on regarding the destruction of the temple in AD 70. Hank says, “The horror of the Great Tribulation included not only the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple but the persecution of the apostles and prophets who penned the Scriptures and formed the foundation of the Christian church of which Christ himself was the chief cornerstone. Thus, the Great Tribulation instigated by Nero is the antitype for every type and tribulation that follows before we experience the reality of our own resurrection at the Second coming of Christ” (Hank Hanegraaff and Signund Brouwer, The Last Disciple [Wheaton, IL: Tyndale, 2004], 395).
@@BibleAnswerManNo, you and Hank are incorrect. It doesn’t matter what Hank says or how you or he interpret prophecy. Jesus is the Word by which authority all other prophets wrote and received the word of the Lord. He says “ not to this time, no, nor ever shall be”(Matthew 24:21). Verse 22 says if God didn’t shorten this time of Great Tribulation that had never happened before or will happen again, no flesh on the earth would survive. This is NOT AD 70 destruction. This is cataclysmic global nuclear annihilation which could not have occurred before 1945 that countless prophecies in the OT speak of. You seem to not understand a very basic principle of biblical prophecy. That it is dual. There is a former type and an anti-type. Sometimes more than two, as in the case of Elijah (Matthew 17:10-12) and the Abomination of Desolation (Daniel 8).
This Great Tribulation is to come. The wrath of God and the wrath of the Lamb shall come over Israel and the world. However, God has not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ. Do you belong to us?
Short answer is because the rocks cry out with the answer. Same reasons academics ,textual critique and archeology read the time and place context. Traditions of the day. A willingness to want to truly know then and it definitely enhances this dispensational church age as God unveils himself . The age of knowledge gets hard to distinguish between where physicalism begins and ends in this era as one can tell . This has been one of the strongest predictions of the gospels but lays dormant because it doesn't fit in with the structuralism of orthodoxy and catholicism.
There is no dispensational church age. You don’t artificially create “7 dispensations” just because the Bible has the word dispensation in it: Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him It’s the same with the Daniel’s 70th Week that has MIRACULOUSLY “not been fulfilled yet”. Have you ever asked yourself why the U.S. as a country cannot be identified in the entire Bible?
@@michaelseay9783 are you denying the new authority of the church and all Jesus salvational unification stands for ? No one desputes the church age is its own dispensation, or that the fall of Adam occurred, or that in the age of Noah and moses God established new covenants under new authorities.. The dispensation your wanting to dispute are that the 7 churches represent different periods of dual past and present correlating guidance or dispensation
@@michaelseay9783 they're are hyper dispensationalist who go way beyond ancient times, beyond acedemia, beyond and majority concesus. But as far as dispensation itself we all use the excersize like it or not
So are you saying that 29,30,31 is the second coming and that it already happened? Are we then in the millennium? If not what are you saying 29,30,31 represents?
@jgefroh6692 No. The second appearance of Jesus Christ to judge the living and the dead remains in the future. However, it is a mistake to suppose “coming in the clouds” always refers to the Second Coming. See www.equip.org/bible_answers/is-coming-on-clouds-a-reference-to-christs-second-coming/ www.equip.org/bible_answers/when-do-we-receive-our-resurrected-bodies/ www.equip.org/articles/apocalypse-when/ and www.equip.org/article/left-behind-from-root-to-ripened-fruit/ Do these articles clarify Hank’s video on interpreting the Bible?
I’m sorry, but I’m not trusting this Eastern Orthodox teacher. If he can’t read the Bible and see that Eastern Orthodox doctrine is not in the Bible, why would I trust what he has to say about anything in the Bible?
Because the Orthodox church gave to humanity the Bible. The canon of the 76 books of Bible established from Orthodox fathers from 4th to 7nd AD century during the Ecclesiastical synods. If you use Bible, you are testimony of the authenticity of the Orthodox church as the True church.
@toddstevens9667 Well just set aside the exegesis and doctrine of Eastern Orthodoxy for a moment and read the Scriptures applying a sound historical grammatical reading of the text and you will come out with nothing close to the very popular dispensational premillennialism with the pretribulation rapture distinctive embraced and propagated by many modern evangelicals.
@@BibleAnswerMan I’m not a dispensationalist. Much of it is nonsense. But I still don’t trust the Bible Answer Man who chooses to attend an unbiblical church. And he knows that much of what they do is unbiblical … so he has no excuse.
@@toddstevens9667 The Bible was written within and for the Orthodox Church, which has faithfully maintained the religion of the apostles. The Bible is not a complete "how to worship" manual. Sola Scriptura is Protestant doctrine, one that is (ironically) unbiblical. "So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the TRADITIONS that you were taught by us, either by our SPOKEN WORD or by our letter." Emphasis mine. 2 Thessalonians 2:15, ESV translation.
@@ericlammerman2777 You need to re-read that verse. What specific traditions are they to keep? Any old tradition they like or find convenient? Or specific traditions that Paul either said or wrote about? Do we really think the traditions Paul taught are the same that the Eastern Orthodox Church adheres to? And he’s the Bible Answer Man for goodness sakes.
Are Hank and Gary in the same "church" now? Is Gary qualified to interpret the Bible in light of the Orthodox position? Can a "non- orthodox" person interpret the Bible for an Orthodox person? Is Gary now a spokesman for the Orthodox church?... or is he (being Presbyterian) considered "Heretical", because he would reject Orthodoxy?
@@BibleAnswerMan He obviously does comport with "Holy Tradition of Eastern Orthodoxy" ... on limited matters of Eschatology (ie. only that he's not pre-millennial/ dispensational). So you obviously appealed to his "authority" on these matters (ie. only that he's not pre-millennial/ dispensational). As you have now validated his authority...Can he preach in your church now? Why not?
Our pastor went full-out rapture teaching last Sunday; I was soooo disappointed and could hardly sit through it. It was a classic, all the points, "next thing on the horizon is the rapture!" Here he had the chance to teach real Scripture, and he chose THAT.
@@josiahmoss3240 I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied. But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings. Which day of any week does he share the word of God in truth? Which day does he sit with any sinner seeking God? And lastly, to whom does he call pastor while you call him pastor?
What we need to know about ourselves from God's Word and our only hope of being justified before a Holy and righteous God: [WHY WE HAVE NO HOPE IN OURSELVES: Mk. 7:20-23 And he (Jesus) said, That which comes out of the man, that defiles the man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things (sins) come from within, and defile the man.] [WHY WE NEED A SAVIOR: Rom. 3:10-28 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understands, there is none that seeks after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that does good, no, not one. Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: Their feet are swift to shed blood: Destruction and misery are in their ways: And the way of peace have they not known: There is no fear of God before their eyes. Now we know that what things so ever the law says, it says to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his (God's) sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ to all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God has set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believes in Jesus. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Joh. 3:16 For God so loved the world (us), that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Joh. 14:6 Jesus said to him (us), I am the way (salvation), the truth (assurance), and the life (eternal): no man comes to (God) the Father, but by me (God the Son). Rom. 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:]
Hank makes the same mistake Disps do. He combines what are 2 answers, into 1 answer, and that's almost unforgivable. BTW, I am not a 'Rapturist'. I can't believe how they cannot see that 'this generation' is in the context of the second part of the answer Jesus gives - remember - the disciples ask TWO questions: 1, when will the the temple be destroyed, and 2, the signs at the end of the age. Jesus answers clearly about 70 AD first - namely 'those of you in Judea', etc - and then gives the second answer about the end of the age. "This generation" that sees THESE signs will not pass away. A child can understand this. If I said, "Then, when they see you leave the solar system and engage Warp Speed, surely this generation will be living in Star Trek", what do I mean? That my current hearers are living in Star Trek?? No - the generation that SEES Warp Speed will be living in ST. That being said - I am emphatically NOT a pre-trib rapturist and I argue heavily and successfully against it's being taught.
@richardthelionheart01 Sure, we can figure there are two questions being asked in a sense. When will the temple be in ruins? When will be the sign of the coming at the end of the age? The answer never demands two distinct events separated by millennia with one of them still unfulfilled and making some suppose Jesus was a false apocalyptic prophet. But the end of the age can be simply the end of the age of the Old Covenant system of offering sacrifices upon the altar of God in the temple/tabernacle by the appointed Levitical priests. Jesus being the greater High Priest according to the order of Melchizedek initiates a New Covenant through His superior once-for-all sacrifice, in the giving of His own body, as explained in the Epistle to the Hebrews. The end of the age had come, and the age to come arrives Christ. No Christian is obligated to offer animals, crops, and libations to the Levitical priest as sacrifices set upon the altar of Yahweh. Christ's sacrifice made this obsolete. The age to come has been in a way inaugurated through not yet fully consummated. Christ will appear again a second time to judge the living and the dead, the dead will be raised, the righteous raised to everlasting life, the unrighteous to everlasting punishment, there will be the final judgment, and then the New Heaven and New Earth with the New Jerusalem descending from above like a bride beautifully adorned for her husband. All things will be set to right.
Good point. One people of God. Many branches both wild and natural grafted into the single tree in the garden of God tended by the Gardener. See www.equip.org/bible_answers/does-the-bible-make-a-distinction-between-israel-and-the-church-cbab/
Blessings in Christ Jesus. Key to understanding prophecy is found in the book of Ecclesiastes. There is nothing new under the sun , what was , will be again, what is, was already, what is to come have already been. One should do well to keep it in mind. Grace and peace.
The right interpretation of Bible is a gift of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit allows the right interpretation only in the real church, protecting right doctrins in that way and separating the real church from other groups called "churches ". Only in the Orthodox church there is the truth, because in Orthodox church the Holy Spirit allows the right interpretation of the scriptures and doctrines. (A Tim 3:15)
@@geelamar3542 They are the same church. Same doctrines, same tradition, same hymns, same Apostolic succession, priestly ordination, same saints, same paternal teachings and tradition. Same Holy Communion etc.
No, it’s interesting how you fail to understand the admonition from apostle Paul to properly divide scripture. That’s whats bewildering. Yes interpret scripture in light of scripture but properly handling the Bible by properly dividing clearly implies that one can improperly divide and miss handle scripture. As you’re doing now.
This world does not end until Revelation 21:1. That is after the 1,000 year Kingdom reign, and after the 7,000 years since Adam was created. Matthew 24:29 talks about the second coming of Christ. Don't you know that the world is getting ready for another war? That's part of the tribulation that is coming. After all the rest of the seals, trumpets and bowls, Jesus will appear in the clouds after the sun, moon and stars go dark. The caller is correct, those three symbols represent Israel. Remember that He comes back for them (Matthew 23:39). And notice what the children of Israel are doing in verse 30. They are in mourning, just like Zechariah 12:10-14 tells us. They have finally realized that they rejected God's plan of salvation through His son, but are now repenting of it and crying out for Him to return. And so He does.
One star would obliterate the earth? What if the stars are not giant balls of gas wirling through ‘space’? What if stars are tiny points of light in the firmament, and therefore can fall as figs? Test ALL things, hold fast that which is true
Yes, the earth is flat and heaven is a solid structure (firmament) in which the creator placed the lights, like the stars. They are not suns, like many belive. The true biblical cosmology is so important to understand. This world is massively deceived on many levels. May God be gracious towards all of us and put even more light on the lies of this world.
Yes, and the stars are often spoken of as angels, fallen or not, in scripture. I think of all but predispensation folks as head in sand Christians. Paul believed in dispensations, as did many of the early founding fathers, and the dead sea scolls as well. Blessings
@chessboxer35 What do you mean by “tiny points of light”? A meteorite shower? Our Sun is a relatively tiny star compared to lots of other red super giant stars We never want to make the figurative apocalyptic metaphors from the Olivet Discourse and the Book of Revelation to literally walk on all fours. See www.equip.org/articles/apocalypse-when/
@@BibleAnswerManwhen you look up at the sky at night you see the stars as they are, little sparkling dots of light. Men told you they are gigantic balls of gas, you believe men because of CARTOONS they show you. YOU say Jesus was talking using metaphor but what if he was talking about small stars that are fixed in the firmament? That can literally fall like figs, just as Jesus told us? Why do you believe in planets and space at all? Have you tested space for yourself? Have you seen actual proof that stars are gigantic balls of gas? Of course not, you appeal to authority and trust the ‘experts’ the same experts that tell you nothing exploded and created everything. it’s easy to spiritualise or say a verse is metaphor just because it does not Fit what men taught you. I have no problem accepting stars falling to earth or the moon having her own light, it’s a cheap cop out to say things like”it’s not a literal deagon” etc, we can all understand metaphor in the proper place, but nothing else in the olivet discourse needs to be anything other than literal so why should stars falling be the exeption?
Wrong, Read Isahia 53, by your logic that is also not Prophetic. Isaiah 13 is a picture of Matthew 24. He says line upon line, precept upon precept here a little, there a little , Rev 18...
Mat.12.38¶Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. 39¶But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. 16.21¶From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. 27.63Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again. Mark 8.31¶And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again. Luke 9.21¶And he straitly charged them, and commanded them to tell no man that thing; 22Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised the third day. Luke18.31¶Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. 32For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: 33And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again. How do you count to three ?
If anyone wants to know if Israel is the body of Christ look at Acts 3:19-21. These same Acts2 jews/Israel doesn’t have its sins blotted out till after the tribulation. Paul says our sins are already forgiven Col 2:9-14. How can the body of Christ jew/gentile mix be forgiven right now and Acts2 Isarel only have remission/temporary forgiveness. Its not possible to be saved now and still be waiting to be saved. Israel is not the body. Mat 24 could not of been fulfilled in ad70 during this dispensation of grace.
@@BibleAnswerMan If its not true biblical dispensation then that group calling themselves dispensationalist are also wrong. The stars falling from heaven in this video are angels being cast out of heaven during the tribulation. Here is one verse proving a star can be referring to a angel. Revelation 1:20 (KJV) The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches. The same thing goes for the nonsense of the wisemen following a astronomical star in heaven. People won’t even question how a star is gonna move in front of wisemen and stand over a stable. You ever seen a star stand. The verse above tells us that star is a angel. Tradition is what drives this. Another thing is making part of Mat 24 about ad70. Anyone that understands their bible is gonna disagree with that. Look at Mat 24:13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Pauls says in Col 2:9-14 we are complete in God. All our trespasses forgiven and the law blotted out. Enduring to the end in Mat 24:13 is 100 percent coming kingdom gospel. Being complete in God and having to endure to the end in no way match. Theres a future event where Jerusalem will be destroyed and the temple with it. Mat 24 does not jump around like its being portrayed. All that is during the tribulation. Satan can read the bible also. It doesn’t matter that he tore the temple down in ad70 to throw off people’s understanding. God said satan is a roaring lion seeking who to devour and even has his own ministers. Why would anyone believe he can’t tear down a temple or write a false bible to deceive.
Who is now the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. =============== Multiple Second Coming Visions in Revelation: (book not in chronological order ) Christ returns one time in the future. However, there are several different visions of His return shown from different perspectives in the Book of Revelation. Christ returns at the end of Revelation chapter 6, with signs in the sun, moon, and stars, as are found in the Olivet Discourse. Those at the end of the chapter are hiding from the wrath of the Lamb. Why would they be hiding if Christ is not present? The "kings", "captains", "might men", "free", and "bond" are also found in chapter 19 at the return of Christ. He returns at the 7th trumpet, which is the last trumpet in the Bible, and the time of the judgment of the dead in Revelation 11:15-18. The beginning of chapter 12 is a history lesson containing the fall of Satan, and the birth and death of Christ, who is the seed promised to crush the head of Satan in Genesis 3:15. The Second Coming is found in the "harvest" of chapter 14, which is related to the parable of the wheat and tares in Matthew chapter 13. He comes as a thief at Armageddon, and we find the greatest earthquake in history in chapter 16. This occurs when the 7th angel pours out his vial. How powerful is an earthquake which moves islands and destroys the mountains? What is happening to the planet? He comes on a horse in chapter 19, right after the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. Chapter 20? Does He come with the fire, and the judgment of the dead at the end of chapter 20, which agrees with what Paul said in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, and 2 Timothy 4:1? (The time of the judgment of the dead is also found in Revelation 11:18.) There are no mortals left alive on the planet at the end of Matthew 25:31-46. Why does an angel come down from heaven with a key to unlock the bottomless pit in Revelation 9:1-2, if the pit was not already locked before that time? Are there wicked angels in the pit in Rev. 9:11? If the beast "ascends" from the pit in Rev. chapter 11, where was the beast before that time? Does your view agree with Peter in 2 Pet. 2:4, and Jude in Jude 1:6, when they both said wicked angels are already in chains of darkness? Revelation 9:14 proves some of the angels were previously bound in some manner. Because the two witnesses were bodily resurrected from the dead in Revelation 11, the "first resurrection" at the beginning of Revelation 20 is not the first bodily resurrection in the book. The principle of "Recapitulation" means there are multiple visions of His return.
@@donhaddix3770 Read verse 6 of your verse above again. It says, "has received" and "the covenant of which he is mediator" (present tense). See also the passage below, which was written in the present tense during the first century. We are not come to Mount Sinai in verse 18. We are come instead to the new covenant "church" of Mount Zion and the blood of Jesus in verses 22-24. Heb 12:18 For you have not come to the mountain that may be touched and that burned with fire, and to blackness and darkness and tempest, Heb 12:19 and the sound of a trumpet and the voice of words, so that those who heard it begged that the word should not be spoken to them anymore. Heb 12:20 (For they could not endure what was commanded: "AND IF SO MUCH AS A BEAST TOUCHES THE MOUNTAIN, IT SHALL BE STONED OR SHOT WITH AN ARROW." Heb 12:21 And so terrifying was the sight that Moses said, "I AM EXCEEDINGLY AFRAID AND TREMBLING.") Heb 12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, Heb 12:23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, Heb 12:24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel. (NKJV)
@@donhaddix3770 All the elements of covenant are found in Jesus' ministry for us. For more on this topic, No King But Caesar & The Return Of The Melchisedec is available online at Advantage Books. Peace to all.
Dispensationalism is based on Daniel 9. - If you do not understand the structure of Daniel 9 you are not able to understand Bibleprophecy. Non- Dispensationalists have a very weird bibleknowledge.
Dispensationalism is based solely on the writings of the apostle Paul, the mystery that was hid in God from before the world began. It can't be found in O.T. scripture.
Ephesians 3:2: If you have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given to me toward you. There are a few people who have heard of the dispensation of grace given to the called apostel Paul. They know that Paul is a steward of the mysteries of God. One of these great mysteries is the Body of Christ. This Body will be raptured before the second comming of Christ. Fighting against Paul is fighting against Christ!
Amen brother! 1Co 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. 1Co 14:38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
The context of Eph 3:2 is referring to the unification of the Jews and Gentiles through Christ. God grace is bringing the Gentiles into the promises he made with Abraham. Reading from Eph ch2 to ch3 it becomes even more clear. The term dispensation has been hijacked to mean something it doesn't. There is nothing in Eph ch3 that points to a rapture. Study Schofield's life, he was a conman who promoted lies. His study bible was Funded by the Rothschilds (Satanists) and became the standard in seminaries starting in 1909 and still is today. You've been lied to about Dispensationalism and the Rapture. I was too, but God is pulling his true church out of it so we won't be part of the great apostasy.
Exactly right. And the people who do not understand or acknowledge these mysteries (Colossians 2:2), only have a handful of Bible verses that they actually believe as literal. What good is prophecy if it is not literal? A person could make it mean anything they want, if it were not literal. Only the Dispensation of Grace explains why Israel's 70th week never came.
This is pure eisegesis. The word "dispensation" in this passage does not refer to a period of time, as dispensationalism claims. The word is "Oikonomia", from which we derive the word "Economy". It is speaking of a working of Grace; an administration of Grace; a stewardship of Grace; it is Grace being dispensed, hence dispensation. Scripture must be kept in context. As a purely secondary matter, nowhere in Scripture is the event of the rapture separated from the Second Coming. We are caught up to meet the Lord in the air at His Coming, according to 1Thess 4, which occurs after the Tribulation.
This is the whole problem with people like you. This is why the Lord over emphasizes an over, emphasizes that he comes as a thief in the night. This is the night and you’re the watcher of the night and you’re blind, as can be.
You don’t even have it right about the stars falling out of the sky the stars are the luminaries there is no stars there is no planets there’s none of that their angels in their patterns
@davidsutter1846 Hank deals with the erroneous dispensational (sine qua non) concerning the distinction between Israel and the Church in this article www.equip.org/articles/left-behind-from-root-to-ripened-fruit/
hey guess what your interpretation is not historical. 7 different gospels, secret rapture, Israel and the church, millennium, rebuilding of the temple. Wow what a lot of garbage. The truth can set us free but your system is just a political one.
Jesus spoke of earthquakes and the powers of heaven to be shaken before his coming. This did not happen in 70 AD, this is a future fulfillment. We have to understand that Jesus spoke of the destruction of the temple and Jerusalem but he went on to prophecy about the future time when he will come as written in Daniel chapter 2, to take over the governments of the world and becoming the King of the tribes of Jacob.
@fcastellanos57 Yet, we do have incidents of earthquakes happening between AD 30 to AD 70. The quake at Christ’s crucifixion, the quake when the angel rolled away the stone from the grave at the time of Christ’s resurrection, the earthquake in Philippi that shook open the doors to the prison cell wherein Paul and Silas were held captive. There was an quake on February 5, 63AD at Pompeii. Quakes also happened in Crete, Smyrna, Miletus, Chios, Samos, Laodecia, Heirapolis, Colosse, Campania, Rome and Judea (see Gary DeMar, Last Days Madness: Obsession of the Modern Church [Powder Springs, GA: American Vision, 1999] 80-81). What Jesus predicted about earthquakes happening came to past. The Jerusalem temple was also destroyed as He said in the Olivet Discourse.
@@BibleAnswerMan Yes, those earthquakes happened but this is not the end of the predictions of the Olivet discourse. Where has the wars and rumors of wars occurred in that time frame? Or many coming and saying “ I am the Christ”. In that chapter it appears to be two events, the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple and a future event which leads to the physical return of Jesus. In 24:21 talks about a great tribulation for the Israelites after earthquakes and pestilences appear, great persecution against them. Also, in 27, Jesus describes his coming as an invasion which it has not taken place or took place in 70 Ad.
It’s easy to spiritualise any verse that doesn’t fit your system. It’s funny tho, the stars falling from heaven CAN’t possibly be literal, oh no.,. But the sign of the Son of man coming in the clouds MUST of course be literal😅
@chessboxer35 The coming on the clouds expression in Matthew 24 refers to a historical judgment occurring upon apostates. But it is best to avoid looking for the second appearance of the Lord Jesus Christ in all the wrong verses. See www.equip.org/bible_answers/is-coming-on-clouds-a-reference-to-christs-second-coming/
@@BibleAnswerManyour web page there, denies mathew 24 is the second coming, but doesn’t give a verse that is the second coming? So can you show me the verse you believe IS talking about the return of Christ? Mathew 24 is so clearly the second coming that the spiritualise it takes sooo much imagination and pride for want of a better word. Do you take any of Christs words literally?
Read Scott Hahn’s book The Lambs Supper! He gives a full, historical answer to the end times thing, it will blow your mind! The Kingdom of God on earth has come, The Church. The old world had to end.
Wow. We’ve gone pretty far afield here, covering both ecclesial history and theology. And the “Church Invisible” doctrine covers many theologians (with different ideas) over many hundreds of years, beginning primarily with Clement. Honestly, their musings are more than a little abstract. I understand that many of them are drawing distinctions between born-again believers and non-regenerate church members. But they go much further than I think scripture does. So frankly, I’m not impressed with the “Church Invisible” doctrine at all. As for the Reformers, I do not think they rescued true Christian worship in any way. I think the break from the RCC was laudable, but the movement as a whole was a confused mess. Basically, they just created a much larger and diverse body of tradition from which people could pick and choose at their whim. Anyway, I think we’ve gone a bit far afield in this discussion, but I’ll let you lead …
Wait! How can we trust teaching under a banner saying life matters more than truth? Even if the teaching is correct on this particular subject of dispensationalism, that is inconsequential in the face of such a heretical banner. Run from this group dear brothers.
@@domega7392 Correct. That is because there is no plan of salvation for Satan, the demons, or his fallen angels. So they can believe in God, but they are eternally damned.
@@domega7392 Right. If you choose to not believe the word of God, then you end up in the same place as those previously mentioned. But the human has that choice. So to be in hell next to a demon while he is laughing, that we had a choice, will probably be one of the major irritations to that person for the rest of eternity.
First off, Isaiah 13 is talking about Mystery Babylon... The Meds will be Iran (Isaiah 13:17)... Remember, the feet on the beast in Dan 7 will stomp and crush everything, and the feet are the feet of a bear in Rev 13 which was Medo Persia, or Modern day Iran... How was this talking about Persia during the rule of Rome in 70 a.d.? That makes no sense... Ya'll think this was time past, but it's all yet future... Isaiah 13:13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place... When has that ever happened? It hasn't... This is that one huge earthquake mentioned many times in Revelation... But it has never happened... Well not yet... Did you ever consider that God did not want us to understand this until the end of years? Daniel 11:6... Daniel 12:9...???
@@yoshkebenstadapandora1181 do you even understand who Mystery Babylon is? Isaiah 13:6,9,13- the Day of the Lord... Since you're so smart answer a question... Was the "Day of the Lord" during the time of Nebuchadnezzar or Nero? Which one? Can't be both... You're so smart, you should be able to answer a simple question...
Do you believe that the Second coming of Christ happened in 70ad? If you don’t then you’re doing the same thing the dispensationalist are. The events in Matthew 24 are speaking about the time right before the second coming. Except for verse 1 and 2. There is a scene change at verse 3. Some time has elapsed between Jesus saying the second temple will be destroyed and the rest of the events in the chapter. Sure maybe the disciples thought they were asking about the destruction of the temple but Jesus was answering their question on what will happen at the end of the age. Matthew wrote (let the reader understand) Now the question is. Was Matthew only writing to his generation or was he writing to the generation that would see ALL these things take place? It’s not any sort of stretch to say when YOU (reader) see these things… Matthew 24:15 (NASB95): “Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand),
See John 16: 7-15. Jesus, HIMSELF, explains the fulfillment of His resurrection when the SPIRIT of TRUTH -- not Jesus in the flesh -- comes to all who will receive him . . . and final judgement for the devil and dragon -- Daniel 7: 9-14 Revelation 12: 12-13. It is NOT the 2nd Coming in the flesh. The Rapture is a LIE. "Left Behind" is a work of fiction. Was Trump chosen by God to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem? Matthew 24: 24.
@@humboldthammer I don’t believe the pre trib rapture, I’m not a disponsationalist and I never have or never will vote for trump. Do you believe that the Day of the Lord happened in 70AD?
@@eastofmars6413 No -- depending on what YOU mean by "The Day of the Lord". I believe that Lucifer and Satan were detained in 30 AD, just after Pentecost, and were judged by the Ancients of Days, far from Earth, in 1985. Final Judgement for the devil and dragon is set for 10/12/26 -- one heavenly hour after Lucifer refused mercy (1000/24) Daniel 7: 9-14, Revelation 12: 12-13. 2 Peter 3: 8 The Great Re-Set is scheduled for 09/23/26, the autumn equinox of the US' and the illuminati's 250th year (1776-2026) All the people will cry out, "No more war. Forgive our debts. Save us from Omega. We will do Anything!" That's when "THEY" unveil (apocalypse) the NEON GAUD and crown the Pope (Vicarius Filii Dei -- 666) the GOD of the One World Religion.
@eastofmars6413 Hank believes Christ will appear again to judge the living and the dead. We never want to see the second coming in the wrong places, such as Matthew 24. See www.equip.org/articles/apocalypse-when/ www.equip.org/bible_answers/when-do-we-receive-our-resurrected-bodies/ and www.equip.org/bible_answers/will-created-cosmos-resurrected-annihilated/
To begin Matthew 24 the apostles asked Jesus when the end will be and Jesus itemizes a series of events. These events can be checked off to Revelation 6, the 7 seal opening. Same thing Before the 7th seal opens, the jews appear in heaven in chapter 7, followed by the Christians. The rapture just happened. Chapter 14 shows this same event a 2nd time with the 144,000 appearing 1st and Christians 2nd. But this time it says the jews are the "first fruits"! It seems to me that the jews are go first, or, i can see simultaneously. But...i cannot see where pretribulationists would say the Christians are taken before the tribulation and the jews saved near the end. Also want to stress that, pretibulationists have a real problem in that Revelation, a book specifically written to detail end time events, omits a pretrib rapture. Preterists or those who believe Matthew 24 is historical fail to understand how Matthew 24 ties one for one to Revelation 6. Taken together they both paint a compelling end of days picture
Unless of course Revelation is in chronological order and chapters 4 and 5 proceed chapter 6. So the church age ends in chapter 3, and then God spends two whole chapters explaining what happened to the church before the first seal is opened. When you understand the Bible correctly, pre-trib is in your face. But most people, sadly, don't know how to read Revelation, so they don't recognize it staring right at them.
@@seanc2788 the 7 letters are letters of instruction to the churches in the tribulation. In the letter to Pergamum, Revelation chapter 2:16 Jesus talks about fighting with the sword of his mouth. That certainly is not historic and only happens at the end of the tribulation. In the letter to Thyatira in Revelation 2:22 Jesus references sickbed, striking children dead, *great tribulation* and paying each person according to their deeds. That doesn't sound historic but for the church in the future tribulation. To the church of Sardis Jesus warns If you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know the hour when I will come upon you. That is not historic church when jesus didn't return,, it is a direct warning to Christians in the tribulation. All throughout the 7 letters to the future churches struggling in the great tribulation we are given instructions to overcome. Also the 3rd seal is famine, and yet the letter to the 3rd church says there will be hidden manna. Its a curious thing! Backing up, ther 2nd seal is men killing and the 2nd church instruction is quite appropriate 10Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Look, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison to test you, and you will suffer tribulation for ten days Hopping back forward the 4th seal is Death and plague, and the 4th church letter instruction mentions sickbed, loss of children, curious indeed!
@@jasonmartinez9007 You seem to be confused and bouncing all over the place. So let me help you out. The churches in Revelation have a 3-fold application: - A literal application. The issues addressed in each letter were real issues the churches were dealing with at that time. - A historical application. The 7 churches of Asia are representative of the 7 Major Periods of church history (in chronological order). Each church represents a different time period. The order in which they are given aligns perfectly with the 7 periods of church history. - A practical application. Each church in the world today fits in one of these categories. However in church history they were the majority of churched during that time period. The name of each church describes the characteristic of the church period it represents. 1. The church of Ephesus. Prominent from 30-100AD. This church remained true to the faith despite the world around them. 2. The church of Smyrna. Prominent from 100-313AD. This church represented the persecution period. 3. The church of Pergamos. Prominent from 313-590AD. It represents the period in church history when Christianity became the state religion. Almost overnight, the church went from being persecuted by the Roman empire, to being the official religion of the empire. Verse 13, seat means throne. The church of God was now sitting upon an imperial throne. During this period the church stopped looking for the coming of Jesus Christ. In their minds, the church was already "reigning," so why would Christ need to return. When Jesus tells them "you have not denied my faith" he means they held true to correct doctrine. When Christianity became the state religion, they finally had power and prestige. Money was flowing into the church, and many of the pastors and bishops were selling out. The seeds of Catholicism were planted and began to take root during this period of church history. 4. The church of Thyatira. Prominent from 590-1517AD. It represents the Papacy period, when the Catholic church rose to prominence. During this period of church history, they began mixing Judaism and heathenism into Christianity, which is spiritual fornication. 5. The church of Sardis. Prominent from 1517-1790AD. It represents the reformation period. Those who protested what the Catholic church had become. The reformed church became so intent on getting back to the scripture that they spent all of their time studying it without ever applying it. As a result, it became just head knowledge. 6. The church of Philadelphia. Prominent from 1790-1900AD. It represents the evangelical period. World wide outreach when missionaries took the gospel to many countries and languages. This was the revival to get back to spirit led Christianity and not just head knowledge. 7. The church of Laodicea. Prominent from 1900-rapture AD. It represents the period of apostacy, when many will become lukewarm or fall away. The Apostate Church is what allows the Anti-Christ to rise to power. Liberal theology takes over in the church, and they have no idea that they are spiritually poor blind and naked.
The sun and moon portion of the Olivette Discourse is none other than the SIXTH SEAL of Revelation 6. PETER talks about it in Acts 2, referencing Joel. But why? Because unbelieving Jews are making fun of BELIEVING Jews for speaking in tongues. So, Peter mentions the 6th Seal to show that AFTER THE 6TH SEAL, THIS WILL HAPPEN AGAIN WITH THE 144000. When Jesus talks about the 6th seal, his is in conjunction with... THE RAPTURE. BOTH of the 144000 AND the RAPTURE is mentioned in Revelation chapter 7, which is BEFORE the opening of... THE WRATH OF GOD, THE 7TH SEAL. SORRY BIBLE ANSWER MAN, BUT YOU ARE TERRIBLE AT THIS TOPIC. Ed Chapman
Have you studied church history, or are you just parroting other people's opinion concerning the Church Christ established (prior to the apostles writing the epistles and the gospels)?
@@toddstevens9667 What happened to the Church Christ established, according to your studies? Are you a proponent of the (nonbiblical) "Church Invisible" doctrine? How does that jibe with Christ establishing an actual, visible church with real bishops and real deacons and whatnot? With a church that continued in the apostles doctrine and the breaking of bread (a physical, visible action)? At what point, in your estimation, did the visible church become inadequate? Where did we go wrong, and need the Reformers to rescue true Christian worship?
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You wouldn't have the answers if they bit you. But now, there is no condemnation, and behold, I tell you a mystery. If you don't know what that means then you aren't the answer man.
i have the book. and it is great. thanks to Hank for writing it. God bless
@@donhaddix3770 , we disagree. i think it is very biblical. have a nice day.
If one wants to know what the Bible really says, then I suggest buying a Bible and reading it rather than a biased book written by a man.
No ONE DOES NOT, I repeat, DOES NOT need to buy Hanks book. I'm sure he is a good guy however one thing that has always bothered me is why not ask the HOLY SPIRIT to show you the meaning of scripture...Oh that's right for those of you who say why not ? Do youthing the people of old bought books to see what another man's opinion is ? You buy 10 books and liable to come away with 6 diffrent thoughts. READ the WORD OF GOD and ASK GOD to give you clarity.
Part of the problem is the proliferation of so called "study bibles" with their own theological biases. When I was in Bible College there was a joke about a particular study bible: "Genesis by Schofield, footnotes by Moses"!
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Every theological book I have ever read had biases, not just the dispensational writers.
@acts20gracebelieverblog93 You totally missed my point. I was referencing "study bibles" where the biblical text and its interpretation are interwoven on the same page. This can lead to the xtudy notes gaining a quasi inspired status. I made no mention of theological textbooks.
Should all "study Bibles" be discarded or just the ones that have dispensational notes?@@aussiebloke51
Bought the Apocalypse Code, over 10 years ago and it is highlighted, and notes in the margin, I love how you always direct our attention to wha the Bible says about, what the Bible says. First reading was tough but subsequent readings it becomes more evident, just as the ,ore I read the Bible more I learn the whole console of the Word of God. I have a few of Mr Demares books too.
I wish we could all find each other and be in fellowship together. Is so lonely attending church that is dispensationalists or futurist.
@@andreastarks2780 how true that is. Thank goodness for places like CRI, and others, remind us we are not alone. Hay if you like Mr Hank, you might enjoy, Steve Gregg, TH-cam channel, more like minded stuff. God bless you
@@andreastarks2780 yes, I’m out numbered at where I go, can’t go anymore, there support of Israel is unconscionable. Don’t feel lonely my friend psalm 10:9 God will never leave you or forsake you. And let’s all pray for peace and for God to stop the madness of Israel.God bless
thanks a lot CI Schofield
@sladetuner8661 Good one. 👍
You are welcome 🙏
For more on this topic, No King But Caesar & The Return Of The Melchisedec is available online at Advantage Books. Peace to all.
Misreading the Bible cannot be limited to any one group.
@anthonypassalacqua3330 True.
It’s called double application. It’s a principal in which you ascribe more than one meaning or purpose to a verse.
And Abram went up OUT OF EGYPT, he, and his wife, and all that he had, and Lot with him, into the south.
Gen13:1
And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the Lord's law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the Lord brought thee OUT OF EGYPT.
Exo13:9
God brought him forth OUT OF EGYPT; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn: he shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce them through with his arrows.
Num24:8
When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son OUT OF EGYPT.
Hos11:1
And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, OUT OF EGYPT have I called my son.
Mat2:15 >
Just the same, each believer is a child called out of Egypt and its bondage...
(I agree)
A lot to lose for changing position, but they’re being paid to teach something that isn’t profitable (in a godly sense). So what’s the profit in that? Blessings to you guys. I appreciate this video.
If the tribulation Jesus mentioned in Mathew 24 was referring to the destruction of Jerusalem that happened soon after in AD70, why did He say in verse 21 that the tribulation wiil be "such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be."? Certainly there have been far greater tribulations that came after the destruction of Jerusalem in AD70, no?
And then in verse 30, Jesus says that after that tribulation, "all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. " So, when, where and how has that event of the coming of the Son of Man happened after Jerusalum was destroyed?
says this in the OT too. about such as not been from the beginning... can,t remember right now where it is, but it is there. have to look it up.
@miketanctutube Incorrect. No other tribulation compared to the Great Tribulation Jesus spoke on regarding the destruction of the temple in AD 70. Hank says, “The horror of the Great Tribulation included not only the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple but the persecution of the apostles and prophets who penned the Scriptures and formed the foundation of the Christian church of which Christ himself was the chief cornerstone. Thus, the Great Tribulation instigated by Nero is the antitype for every type and tribulation that follows before we experience the reality of our own resurrection at the Second coming of Christ” (Hank Hanegraaff and Signund Brouwer, The Last Disciple [Wheaton, IL: Tyndale, 2004], 395).
@@BibleAnswerManNo, you and Hank are incorrect. It doesn’t matter what Hank says or how you or he interpret prophecy. Jesus is the Word by which authority all other prophets wrote and received the word of the Lord. He says “ not to this time, no, nor ever shall be”(Matthew 24:21). Verse 22 says if God didn’t shorten this time of Great Tribulation that had never happened before or will happen again, no flesh on the earth would survive. This is NOT AD 70 destruction. This is cataclysmic global nuclear annihilation which could not have occurred before 1945 that countless prophecies in the OT speak of. You seem to not understand a very basic principle of biblical prophecy. That it is dual. There is a former type and an anti-type. Sometimes more than two, as in the case of Elijah (Matthew 17:10-12) and the Abomination of Desolation (Daniel 8).
This Great Tribulation is to come.
The wrath of God and
the wrath of the Lamb shall come over Israel and the world.
However, God has not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ.
Do you belong to us?
@@BibleAnswerMan Incorrect.
The great tribulation is still to come.
I don't care what Hank says.
I care what Paul writes.
Short answer is because the rocks cry out with the answer.
Same reasons academics ,textual critique and archeology read the time and place context.
Traditions of the day.
A willingness to want to truly know then and it definitely enhances this dispensational church age as God unveils himself .
The age of knowledge gets hard to distinguish between where physicalism begins and ends in this era as one can tell .
This has been one of the strongest predictions of the gospels but lays dormant because it doesn't fit in with the structuralism of orthodoxy and catholicism.
There is no dispensational church age. You don’t artificially create “7 dispensations” just because the Bible has the word dispensation in it:
Ephesians 1:10
That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him
It’s the same with the Daniel’s 70th Week that has MIRACULOUSLY “not been fulfilled yet”.
Have you ever asked yourself why the U.S. as a country cannot be identified in the entire Bible?
@@michaelseay9783 are you denying the new authority of the church and all Jesus salvational unification stands for ?
No one desputes the church age is its own dispensation, or that the fall of Adam occurred, or that in the age of Noah and moses God established new covenants under new authorities..
The dispensation your wanting to dispute are that the 7 churches represent different periods of dual past and present correlating guidance or dispensation
@@michaelseay9783 they're are hyper dispensationalist who go way beyond ancient times, beyond acedemia, beyond and majority concesus.
But as far as dispensation itself we all use the excersize like it or not
Wow... absolutley helpful. Thank you, Sir
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Bible Version Matters!
Oh this was a good one. 🙏🏻
So are you saying that 29,30,31 is the second coming and that it already happened? Are we then in the millennium? If not what are you saying 29,30,31 represents?
@jgefroh6692 No. The second appearance of Jesus Christ to judge the living and the dead remains in the future. However, it is a mistake to suppose “coming in the clouds” always refers to the Second Coming. See www.equip.org/bible_answers/is-coming-on-clouds-a-reference-to-christs-second-coming/ www.equip.org/bible_answers/when-do-we-receive-our-resurrected-bodies/ www.equip.org/articles/apocalypse-when/ and www.equip.org/article/left-behind-from-root-to-ripened-fruit/ Do these articles clarify Hank’s video on interpreting the Bible?
I’m sorry, but I’m not trusting this Eastern Orthodox teacher. If he can’t read the Bible and see that Eastern Orthodox doctrine is not in the Bible, why would I trust what he has to say about anything in the Bible?
Because the Orthodox church gave to humanity the Bible.
The canon of the 76 books of Bible established from Orthodox fathers from 4th to 7nd AD century during the Ecclesiastical synods.
If you use Bible, you are testimony of the authenticity of the Orthodox church as the True church.
@toddstevens9667 Well just set aside the exegesis and doctrine of Eastern Orthodoxy for a moment and read the Scriptures applying a sound historical grammatical reading of the text and you will come out with nothing close to the very popular dispensational premillennialism with the pretribulation rapture distinctive embraced and propagated by many modern evangelicals.
@@BibleAnswerMan I’m not a dispensationalist. Much of it is nonsense. But I still don’t trust the Bible Answer Man who chooses to attend an unbiblical church. And he knows that much of what they do is unbiblical … so he has no excuse.
@@toddstevens9667 The Bible was written within and for the Orthodox Church, which has faithfully maintained the religion of the apostles. The Bible is not a complete "how to worship" manual.
Sola Scriptura is Protestant doctrine, one that is (ironically) unbiblical. "So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the TRADITIONS that you were taught by us, either by our SPOKEN WORD or by our letter."
Emphasis mine. 2 Thessalonians 2:15, ESV translation.
@@ericlammerman2777 You need to re-read that verse. What specific traditions are they to keep? Any old tradition they like or find convenient? Or specific traditions that Paul either said or wrote about? Do we really think the traditions Paul taught are the same that the Eastern Orthodox Church adheres to? And he’s the Bible Answer Man for goodness sakes.
Parable of the four seeds. Satan stealing the word from us. Which one is right?
@rosemarietolentino3218 What is the passage are you referring to? Parable of the sower?
Are Hank and Gary in the same "church" now? Is Gary qualified to interpret the Bible in light of the Orthodox position? Can a "non- orthodox" person interpret the Bible for an Orthodox person? Is Gary now a spokesman for the Orthodox church?... or is he (being Presbyterian) considered "Heretical", because he would reject Orthodoxy?
Why can't Gary offer an interpretation of the Scripture that comports with Holy Tradition of Eastern Orthodoxy? What is the contradiction?
@@BibleAnswerMan He obviously does comport with "Holy Tradition of Eastern Orthodoxy" ... on limited matters of Eschatology (ie. only that he's not pre-millennial/ dispensational). So you obviously appealed to his "authority" on these matters (ie. only that he's not pre-millennial/ dispensational). As you have now validated his authority...Can he preach in your church now? Why not?
It's not just the dispensationalists who are misreading the Bible when it comes to eschatology. Look how many different views there are.
@bobbyadkins6983 Interesting point. 👍
Same Greek word for this generation and that generation.
Our pastor went full-out rapture teaching last Sunday; I was soooo disappointed and could hardly sit through it. It was a classic, all the points, "next thing on the horizon is the rapture!" Here he had the chance to teach real Scripture, and he chose THAT.
The day everyone starts to read their own bibles (2 Timothy 2:15) charlatans will pack up and leave town.
Check out chuck baldwin's sermons, he's not a dispensationalist
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He preaches his sins saved him while yours condemns you........go figure
@@dianetigert1310 bring forth your claim; if not, it's hearsay
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I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied. But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings.
Which day of any week does he share the word of God in truth? Which day does he sit with any sinner seeking God? And lastly, to whom does he call pastor while you call him pastor?
What we need to know about ourselves from God's Word and our only hope of being justified before a Holy and righteous God: [WHY WE HAVE NO HOPE IN OURSELVES: Mk. 7:20-23 And he (Jesus) said, That which comes out of the man, that defiles the man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things (sins) come from within, and defile the man.] [WHY WE NEED A SAVIOR: Rom. 3:10-28 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understands, there is none that seeks after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that does good, no, not one. Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: Their feet are swift to shed blood: Destruction and misery are in their ways: And the way of peace have they not known: There is no fear of God before their eyes. Now we know that what things so ever the law says, it says to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his (God's) sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ to all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God has set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believes in Jesus. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Joh. 3:16 For God so loved the world (us), that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Joh. 14:6 Jesus said to him (us), I am the way (salvation), the truth (assurance), and the life (eternal): no man comes to (God) the Father, but by me (God the Son). Rom. 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:]
Hank makes the same mistake Disps do. He combines what are 2 answers, into 1 answer, and that's almost unforgivable. BTW, I am not a 'Rapturist'. I can't believe how they cannot see that 'this generation' is in the context of the second part of the answer Jesus gives - remember - the disciples ask TWO questions: 1, when will the the temple be destroyed, and 2, the signs at the end of the age. Jesus answers clearly about 70 AD first - namely 'those of you in Judea', etc - and then gives the second answer about the end of the age. "This generation" that sees THESE signs will not pass away.
A child can understand this. If I said, "Then, when they see you leave the solar system and engage Warp Speed, surely this generation will be living in Star Trek", what do I mean? That my current hearers are living in Star Trek?? No - the generation that SEES Warp Speed will be living in ST.
That being said - I am emphatically NOT a pre-trib rapturist and I argue heavily and successfully against it's being taught.
@richardthelionheart01 Sure, we can figure there are two questions being asked in a sense. When will the temple be in ruins? When will be the sign of the coming at the end of the age? The answer never demands two distinct events separated by millennia with one of them still unfulfilled and making some suppose Jesus was a false apocalyptic prophet.
But the end of the age can be simply the end of the age of the Old Covenant system of offering sacrifices upon the altar of God in the temple/tabernacle by the appointed Levitical priests. Jesus being the greater High Priest according to the order of Melchizedek initiates a New Covenant through His superior once-for-all sacrifice, in the giving of His own body, as explained in the Epistle to the Hebrews. The end of the age had come, and the age to come arrives Christ. No Christian is obligated to offer animals, crops, and libations to the Levitical priest as sacrifices set upon the altar of Yahweh. Christ's sacrifice made this obsolete.
The age to come has been in a way inaugurated through not yet fully consummated. Christ will appear again a second time to judge the living and the dead, the dead will be raised, the righteous raised to everlasting life, the unrighteous to everlasting punishment, there will be the final judgment, and then the New Heaven and New Earth with the New Jerusalem descending from above like a bride beautifully adorned for her husband. All things will be set to right.
TAKE A LOOK AT THE OLIVE TREE/ 2 DISTINCT BRANCHES. ONE NATURAL THE OTHER WILD.
Good point. One people of God. Many branches both wild and natural grafted into the single tree in the garden of God tended by the Gardener. See www.equip.org/bible_answers/does-the-bible-make-a-distinction-between-israel-and-the-church-cbab/
Blessings in Christ Jesus. Key to understanding prophecy is found in the book of Ecclesiastes. There is nothing new under the sun , what was , will be again, what is, was already, what is to come have already been. One should do well to keep it in mind. Grace and peace.
The right interpretation of Bible is a gift of the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit allows the right interpretation only in the real church, protecting right doctrins in that way and separating the real church from other groups called "churches ".
Only in the Orthodox church there is the truth, because in Orthodox church the Holy Spirit allows the right interpretation of the scriptures and doctrines. (A Tim 3:15)
Which Orthodox Church; Russian, Syrian, Greek…?
@@geelamar3542 They are the same church. Same doctrines, same tradition, same hymns, same Apostolic succession, priestly ordination, same saints, same paternal teachings and tradition.
Same Holy Communion etc.
Thanks for the reply. I’m in the process of learning Biblical Greek and want to become less dependent on so many translations.
For verily I say unto you, Until heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or one tittle shall pass from the law until all is fulfilled.
IT IS FINISHED
@@donhaddix3770 May I suggest.... Everything!
@@donhaddix3770 Few make the connection.
No, it’s interesting how you fail to understand the admonition from apostle Paul to properly divide scripture. That’s whats bewildering. Yes interpret scripture in light of scripture but properly handling the Bible by properly dividing clearly implies that one can improperly divide and miss handle scripture. As you’re doing now.
Hmm, listening to the first few minutes of this; are you a Preterist?
@granthodges3012 No. See th-cam.com/video/xt8l5no1Dqk/w-d-xo.html
This world does not end until Revelation 21:1. That is after the 1,000 year Kingdom reign, and after the 7,000 years since Adam was created.
Matthew 24:29 talks about the second coming of Christ. Don't you know that the world is getting ready for another war? That's part of the tribulation that is coming. After all the rest of the seals, trumpets and bowls, Jesus will appear in the clouds after the sun, moon and stars go dark. The caller is correct, those three symbols represent Israel. Remember that He comes back for them (Matthew 23:39). And notice what the children of Israel are doing in verse 30. They are in mourning, just like Zechariah 12:10-14 tells us. They have finally realized that they rejected God's plan of salvation through His son, but are now repenting of it and crying out for Him to return. And so He does.
One star would obliterate the earth?
What if the stars are not giant balls of gas wirling through ‘space’? What if stars are tiny points of light in the firmament, and therefore can fall as figs?
Test ALL things, hold fast that which is true
Yes, the earth is flat and heaven is a solid structure (firmament) in which the creator placed the lights, like the stars. They are not suns, like many belive. The true biblical cosmology is so important to understand. This world is massively deceived on many levels. May God be gracious towards all of us and put even more light on the lies of this world.
Yes, and the stars are often spoken of as angels, fallen or not, in scripture. I think of all but predispensation folks as head in sand Christians. Paul believed in dispensations, as did many of the early founding fathers, and the dead sea scolls as well. Blessings
@chessboxer35 What do you mean by “tiny points of light”? A meteorite shower? Our Sun is a relatively tiny star compared to lots of other red super giant stars We never want to make the figurative apocalyptic metaphors from the Olivet Discourse and the Book of Revelation to literally walk on all fours. See www.equip.org/articles/apocalypse-when/
@@BibleAnswerManwhen you look up at the sky at night you see the stars as they are, little sparkling dots of light.
Men told you they are gigantic balls of gas, you believe men because of CARTOONS they show you.
YOU say Jesus was talking using metaphor but what if he was talking about small stars that are fixed in the firmament? That can literally fall like figs, just as Jesus told us?
Why do you believe in planets and space at all? Have you tested space for yourself? Have you seen actual proof that stars are gigantic balls of gas?
Of course not, you appeal to authority and trust the ‘experts’ the same experts that tell you nothing exploded and created everything.
it’s easy to spiritualise or say a verse is metaphor just because it does not Fit what men taught you.
I have no problem accepting stars falling to earth or the moon having her own light, it’s a cheap cop out to say things like”it’s not a literal deagon” etc, we can all understand metaphor in the proper place, but nothing else in the olivet discourse needs to be anything other than literal so why should stars falling be the exeption?
Wrong, Read Isahia 53, by your logic that is also not Prophetic. Isaiah 13 is a picture of Matthew 24. He says line upon line, precept upon precept here a little, there a little , Rev 18...
Mat.12.38¶Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.
39¶But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
40For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
16.21¶From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
27.63Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again.
Mark 8.31¶And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.
Luke 9.21¶And he straitly charged them, and commanded them to tell no man that thing;
22Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised the third day.
Luke18.31¶Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished.
32For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on:
33And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again.
How do you count to three ?
If anyone wants to know if Israel is the body of Christ look at Acts 3:19-21. These same Acts2 jews/Israel doesn’t have its sins blotted out till after the tribulation. Paul says our sins are already forgiven Col 2:9-14. How can the body of Christ jew/gentile mix be forgiven right now and Acts2 Isarel only have remission/temporary forgiveness. Its not possible to be saved now and still be waiting to be saved. Israel is not the body. Mat 24 could not of been fulfilled in ad70 during this dispensation of grace.
Thanks for sharing.
@@BibleAnswerMan If its not true biblical dispensation then that group calling themselves dispensationalist are also wrong. The stars falling from heaven in this video are angels being cast out of heaven during the tribulation. Here is one verse proving a star can be referring to a angel. Revelation 1:20 (KJV)
The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.
The same thing goes for the nonsense of the wisemen following a astronomical star in heaven. People won’t even question how a star is gonna move in front of wisemen and stand over a stable. You ever seen a star stand. The verse above tells us that star is a angel. Tradition is what drives this.
Another thing is making part of Mat 24 about ad70. Anyone that understands their bible is gonna disagree with that. Look at Mat 24:13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Pauls says in Col 2:9-14 we are complete in God. All our trespasses forgiven and the law blotted out. Enduring to the end in Mat 24:13 is 100 percent coming kingdom gospel. Being complete in God and having to endure to the end in no way match. Theres a future event where Jerusalem will be destroyed and the temple with it. Mat 24 does not jump around like its being portrayed. All that is during the tribulation. Satan can read the bible also. It doesn’t matter that he tore the temple down in ad70 to throw off people’s understanding. God said satan is a roaring lion seeking who to devour and even has his own ministers. Why would anyone believe he can’t tear down a temple or write a false bible to deceive.
Who is now the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary?
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart.
Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36)
We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.
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Multiple Second Coming Visions in Revelation: (book not in chronological order )
Christ returns one time in the future. However, there are several different visions of His return shown from different perspectives in the Book of Revelation.
Christ returns at the end of Revelation chapter 6, with signs in the sun, moon, and stars, as are found in the Olivet Discourse.
Those at the end of the chapter are hiding from the wrath of the Lamb.
Why would they be hiding if Christ is not present?
The "kings", "captains", "might men", "free", and "bond" are also found in chapter 19 at the return of Christ.
He returns at the 7th trumpet, which is the last trumpet in the Bible, and the time of the judgment of the dead in Revelation 11:15-18.
The beginning of chapter 12 is a history lesson containing the fall of Satan, and the birth and death of Christ, who is the seed promised to crush the head of Satan in Genesis 3:15.
The Second Coming is found in the "harvest" of chapter 14, which is related to the parable of the wheat and tares in Matthew chapter 13.
He comes as a thief at Armageddon, and we find the greatest earthquake in history in chapter 16. This occurs when the 7th angel pours out his vial. How powerful is an earthquake which moves islands and destroys the mountains? What is happening to the planet?
He comes on a horse in chapter 19, right after the Marriage Supper of the Lamb.
Chapter 20?
Does He come with the fire, and the judgment of the dead at the end of chapter 20, which agrees with what Paul said in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, and 2 Timothy 4:1?
(The time of the judgment of the dead is also found in Revelation 11:18.)
There are no mortals left alive on the planet at the end of Matthew 25:31-46.
Why does an angel come down from heaven with a key to unlock the bottomless pit in Revelation 9:1-2, if the pit was not already locked before that time? Are there wicked angels in the pit in Rev. 9:11? If the beast "ascends" from the pit in Rev. chapter 11, where was the beast before that time?
Does your view agree with Peter in 2 Pet. 2:4, and Jude in Jude 1:6, when they both said wicked angels are already in chains of darkness?
Revelation 9:14 proves some of the angels were previously bound in some manner.
Because the two witnesses were bodily resurrected from the dead in Revelation 11, the "first resurrection" at the beginning of Revelation 20 is not the first bodily resurrection in the book.
The principle of "Recapitulation" means there are multiple visions of His return.
@@donhaddix3770 You are trying to ignore the word "now" in Hebrews 8:6-13.
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Read verse 6 of your verse above again. It says, "has received" and "the covenant of which he is mediator" (present tense). See also the passage below, which was written in the present tense during the first century. We are not come to Mount Sinai in verse 18. We are come instead to the new covenant "church" of Mount Zion and the blood of Jesus in verses 22-24.
Heb 12:18 For you have not come to the mountain that may be touched and that burned with fire, and to blackness and darkness and tempest,
Heb 12:19 and the sound of a trumpet and the voice of words, so that those who heard it begged that the word should not be spoken to them anymore.
Heb 12:20 (For they could not endure what was commanded: "AND IF SO MUCH AS A BEAST TOUCHES THE MOUNTAIN, IT SHALL BE STONED OR SHOT WITH AN ARROW."
Heb 12:21 And so terrifying was the sight that Moses said, "I AM EXCEEDINGLY AFRAID AND TREMBLING.")
Heb 12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels,
Heb 12:23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Heb 12:24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.
(NKJV)
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From your NIV...
"since the new covenant is established on better promises."
For more on this topic, No King But Caesar & The Return Of The Melchisedec is available online at Advantage Books. Peace to all.
@@donhaddix3770 All the elements of covenant are found in Jesus' ministry for us. For more on this topic, No King But Caesar & The Return Of The Melchisedec is available online at Advantage Books. Peace to all.
Always knew my favorite translation was the new American standard, even as a very, very young Christian
Christians naively trust pastors who have been taught Dispensational lies. Pastors taught these Dispensational lies are not critically thinking.
Dispensationalism is based on Daniel 9. - If you do not understand the structure of Daniel 9 you are not able to understand Bibleprophecy. Non- Dispensationalists have a very weird bibleknowledge.
Dispensationalism is based solely on the writings of the apostle Paul, the mystery that was hid in God from before the world began. It can't be found in O.T. scripture.
Ephesians 3:2:
If you have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given to me toward you.
There are a few people who have heard of the dispensation of grace given to the called apostel Paul. They know that Paul is a steward of the mysteries of God.
One of these great mysteries is the Body of Christ. This Body will be raptured before the second comming of Christ.
Fighting against Paul is fighting against Christ!
Amen brother!
1Co 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
1Co 14:38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
The context of Eph 3:2 is referring to the unification of the Jews and Gentiles through Christ. God grace is bringing the Gentiles into the promises he made with Abraham. Reading from Eph ch2 to ch3 it becomes even more clear. The term dispensation has been hijacked to mean something it doesn't. There is nothing in Eph ch3 that points to a rapture. Study Schofield's life, he was a conman who promoted lies. His study bible was Funded by the Rothschilds (Satanists) and became the standard in seminaries starting in 1909 and still is today. You've been lied to about Dispensationalism and the Rapture. I was too, but God is pulling his true church out of it so we won't be part of the great apostasy.
Exactly right. And the people who do not understand or acknowledge these mysteries (Colossians 2:2), only have a handful of Bible verses that they actually believe as literal.
What good is prophecy if it is not literal? A person could make it mean anything they want, if it were not literal.
Only the Dispensation of Grace explains why Israel's 70th week never came.
This is pure eisegesis. The word "dispensation" in this passage does not refer to a period of time, as dispensationalism claims. The word is "Oikonomia", from which we derive the word "Economy". It is speaking of a working of Grace; an administration of Grace; a stewardship of Grace; it is Grace being dispensed, hence dispensation.
Scripture must be kept in context. As a purely secondary matter, nowhere in Scripture is the event of the rapture separated from the Second Coming. We are caught up to meet the Lord in the air at His Coming, according to 1Thess 4, which occurs after the Tribulation.
Great explanation, thanks.
This is the whole problem with people like you. This is why the Lord over emphasizes an over, emphasizes that he comes as a thief in the night. This is the night and you’re the watcher of the night and you’re blind, as can be.
You don’t even have it right about the stars falling out of the sky the stars are the luminaries there is no stars there is no planets there’s none of that their angels in their patterns
And I guess we live on a flat earth also.
How can you Hank NOT be a Dispensationalist???? Perhaps you're the one misreading the Bible!
@davidsutter1846 Hank deals with the erroneous dispensational (sine qua non) concerning the distinction between Israel and the Church in this article www.equip.org/articles/left-behind-from-root-to-ripened-fruit/
hey guess what your interpretation is not historical. 7 different gospels, secret rapture, Israel and the church, millennium, rebuilding of the temple. Wow what a lot of garbage.
The truth can set us free but your system is just a political one.
Jesus spoke of earthquakes and the powers of heaven to be shaken before his coming. This did not happen in 70 AD, this is a future fulfillment. We have to understand that Jesus spoke of the destruction of the temple and Jerusalem but he went on to prophecy about the future time when he will come as written in Daniel chapter 2, to take over the governments of the world and becoming the King of the tribes of Jacob.
@fcastellanos57 Yet, we do have incidents of earthquakes happening between AD 30 to AD 70. The quake at Christ’s crucifixion, the quake when the angel rolled away the stone from the grave at the time of Christ’s resurrection, the earthquake in Philippi that shook open the doors to the prison cell wherein Paul and Silas were held captive. There was an quake on February 5, 63AD at Pompeii. Quakes also happened in Crete, Smyrna, Miletus, Chios, Samos, Laodecia, Heirapolis, Colosse, Campania, Rome and Judea (see Gary DeMar, Last Days Madness: Obsession of the Modern Church [Powder Springs, GA: American Vision, 1999] 80-81). What Jesus predicted about earthquakes happening came to past. The Jerusalem temple was also destroyed as He said in the Olivet Discourse.
@@BibleAnswerMan Yes, those earthquakes happened but this is not the end of the predictions of the Olivet discourse. Where has the wars and rumors of wars occurred in that time frame? Or many coming and saying “ I am the Christ”. In that chapter it appears to be two events, the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple and a future event which leads to the physical return of Jesus. In 24:21 talks about a great tribulation for the Israelites after earthquakes and pestilences appear, great persecution against them. Also, in 27, Jesus describes his coming as an invasion which it has not taken place or took place in 70 Ad.
It’s easy to spiritualise any verse that doesn’t fit your system.
It’s funny tho, the stars falling from heaven CAN’t possibly be literal, oh no.,. But the sign of the Son of man coming in the clouds MUST of course be literal😅
@chessboxer35 The coming on the clouds expression in Matthew 24 refers to a historical judgment occurring upon apostates. But it is best to avoid looking for the second appearance of the Lord Jesus Christ in all the wrong verses. See www.equip.org/bible_answers/is-coming-on-clouds-a-reference-to-christs-second-coming/
@@BibleAnswerManyour web page there, denies mathew 24 is the second coming, but doesn’t give a verse that is the second coming? So can you show me the verse you believe IS talking about the return of Christ?
Mathew 24 is so clearly the second coming that the spiritualise it takes sooo much imagination and pride for want of a better word.
Do you take any of Christs words literally?
Read Scott Hahn’s book The Lambs Supper! He gives a full, historical answer to the end times thing, it will blow your mind! The Kingdom of God on earth has come, The Church. The old world had to end.
Wow. We’ve gone pretty far afield here, covering both ecclesial history and theology. And the “Church Invisible” doctrine covers many theologians (with different ideas) over many hundreds of years, beginning primarily with Clement. Honestly, their musings are more than a little abstract. I understand that many of them are drawing distinctions between born-again believers and non-regenerate church members. But they go much further than I think scripture does. So frankly, I’m not impressed with the “Church Invisible” doctrine at all. As for the Reformers, I do not think they rescued true Christian worship in any way. I think the break from the RCC was laudable, but the movement as a whole was a confused mess. Basically, they just created a much larger and diverse body of tradition from which people could pick and choose at their whim. Anyway, I think we’ve gone a bit far afield in this discussion, but I’ll let you lead …
Wait! How can we trust teaching under a banner saying life matters more than truth? Even if the teaching is correct on this particular subject of dispensationalism, that is inconsequential in the face of such a heretical banner. Run from this group dear brothers.
Ha ha ha that is so funny. I have thought that but did not express it yet! Thanks for that.
Even the demons know the truth and tremble, but do not live by it.
@@domega7392 Correct. That is because there is no plan of salvation for Satan, the demons, or his fallen angels. So they can believe in God, but they are eternally damned.
@@seanc2788 That is the point. The one who knows the truth but does not live by it is worse than an unbeliever and is just like the demon.
@@domega7392 Right. If you choose to not believe the word of God, then you end up in the same place as those previously mentioned. But the human has that choice. So to be in hell next to a demon while he is laughing, that we had a choice, will probably be one of the major irritations to that person for the rest of eternity.
First off, Isaiah 13 is talking about Mystery Babylon... The Meds will be Iran (Isaiah 13:17)... Remember, the feet on the beast in Dan 7 will stomp and crush everything, and the feet are the feet of a bear in Rev 13 which was Medo Persia, or Modern day Iran...
How was this talking about Persia during the rule of Rome in 70 a.d.? That makes no sense... Ya'll think this was time past, but it's all yet future...
Isaiah 13:13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place... When has that ever happened? It hasn't... This is that one huge earthquake mentioned many times in Revelation... But it has never happened... Well not yet... Did you ever consider that God did not want us to understand this until the end of years? Daniel 11:6... Daniel 12:9...???
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@@zerosparky9510 you are a ZERO sparky. Stupid to...
Ridiculous interpretation
@@yoshkebenstadapandora1181 do you even understand who Mystery Babylon is? Isaiah 13:6,9,13- the Day of the Lord... Since you're so smart answer a question... Was the "Day of the Lord" during the time of Nebuchadnezzar or Nero? Which one? Can't be both... You're so smart, you should be able to answer a simple question...
Very wise!
Do you believe that the Second coming of Christ happened in 70ad? If you don’t then you’re doing the same thing the dispensationalist are.
The events in Matthew 24 are speaking about the time right before the second coming.
Except for verse 1 and 2. There is a scene change at verse 3. Some time has elapsed between Jesus saying the second temple will be destroyed and the rest of the events in the chapter.
Sure maybe the disciples thought they were asking about the destruction of the temple but Jesus was answering their question on what will happen at the end of the age.
Matthew wrote (let the reader understand)
Now the question is. Was Matthew only writing to his generation or was he writing to the generation that would see ALL these things take place?
It’s not any sort of stretch to say when YOU (reader) see these things…
Matthew 24:15 (NASB95): “Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand),
See John 16: 7-15. Jesus, HIMSELF, explains the fulfillment of His resurrection when the SPIRIT of TRUTH -- not Jesus in the flesh -- comes to all who will receive him . . . and final judgement for the devil and dragon -- Daniel 7: 9-14 Revelation 12: 12-13. It is NOT the 2nd Coming in the flesh. The Rapture is a LIE. "Left Behind" is a work of fiction. Was Trump chosen by God to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem? Matthew 24: 24.
That is wise commentary.
@@humboldthammer I don’t believe the pre trib rapture, I’m not a disponsationalist and I never have or never will vote for trump.
Do you believe that the Day of the Lord happened in 70AD?
@@eastofmars6413 No -- depending on what YOU mean by "The Day of the Lord".
I believe that Lucifer and Satan were detained in 30 AD, just after Pentecost, and were judged by the Ancients of Days, far from Earth, in 1985.
Final Judgement for the devil and dragon is set for 10/12/26 -- one heavenly hour after Lucifer refused mercy (1000/24) Daniel 7: 9-14, Revelation 12: 12-13. 2 Peter 3: 8
The Great Re-Set is scheduled for 09/23/26, the autumn equinox of the US' and the illuminati's 250th year (1776-2026) All the people will cry out, "No more war. Forgive our debts. Save us from Omega. We will do Anything!"
That's when "THEY" unveil (apocalypse) the NEON GAUD and crown the Pope (Vicarius Filii Dei -- 666) the GOD of the One World Religion.
@eastofmars6413 Hank believes Christ will appear again to judge the living and the dead. We never want to see the second coming in the wrong places, such as Matthew 24. See www.equip.org/articles/apocalypse-when/ www.equip.org/bible_answers/when-do-we-receive-our-resurrected-bodies/ and www.equip.org/bible_answers/will-created-cosmos-resurrected-annihilated/
It's easy. Look in the mirror.
Fratelli tutti
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How can so many Infernalists misread the Bible? 1 Timothy 4:10 Apokatastasis
ALL will be well. Every knee shall bow.
For more on this topic, No King But Caesar & The Return Of The Melchisedec is available online at Advantage Books. Peace to all.
To begin Matthew 24 the apostles asked Jesus when the end will be and Jesus itemizes a series of events. These events can be checked off to Revelation 6, the 7 seal opening. Same thing
Before the 7th seal opens, the jews appear in heaven in chapter 7, followed by the Christians. The rapture just happened. Chapter 14 shows this same event a 2nd time with the 144,000 appearing 1st and Christians 2nd. But this time it says the jews are the "first fruits"!
It seems to me that the jews are go first, or, i can see simultaneously. But...i cannot see where pretribulationists would say the Christians are taken before the tribulation and the jews saved near the end.
Also want to stress that, pretibulationists have a real problem in that Revelation, a book specifically written to detail end time events, omits a pretrib rapture.
Preterists or those who believe Matthew 24 is historical fail to understand how Matthew 24 ties one for one to Revelation 6. Taken together they both paint a compelling end of days picture
Unless of course Revelation is in chronological order and chapters 4 and 5 proceed chapter 6. So the church age ends in chapter 3, and then God spends two whole chapters explaining what happened to the church before the first seal is opened. When you understand the Bible correctly, pre-trib is in your face. But most people, sadly, don't know how to read Revelation, so they don't recognize it staring right at them.
you hit the nail 0n the head. @@seanc2788
@@seanc2788 the 7 letters are letters of instruction to the churches in the tribulation.
In the letter to Pergamum, Revelation chapter 2:16 Jesus talks about fighting with the sword of his mouth. That certainly is not historic and only happens at the end of the tribulation.
In the letter to Thyatira in Revelation 2:22 Jesus references sickbed, striking children dead, *great tribulation* and paying each person according to their deeds. That doesn't sound historic but for the church in the future tribulation.
To the church of Sardis Jesus warns If you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know the hour when I will come upon you. That is not historic church when jesus didn't return,, it is a direct warning to Christians in the tribulation.
All throughout the 7 letters to the future churches struggling in the great tribulation we are given instructions to overcome.
Also the 3rd seal is famine, and yet the letter to the 3rd church says there will be hidden manna. Its a curious thing!
Backing up, ther 2nd seal is men killing and the 2nd church instruction is quite appropriate 10Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Look, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison to test you, and you will suffer tribulation for ten days
Hopping back forward the 4th seal is Death and plague, and the 4th church letter instruction mentions sickbed, loss of children, curious indeed!
@@jasonmartinez9007 You seem to be confused and bouncing all over the place. So let me help you out.
The churches in Revelation have a 3-fold application:
- A literal application. The issues addressed in each letter were real issues the churches were dealing with at that time.
- A historical application. The 7 churches of Asia are representative of the 7 Major Periods of church history (in chronological order). Each church represents a different time period. The order in which they are given aligns perfectly with the 7 periods of church history.
- A practical application. Each church in the world today fits in one of these categories. However in church history they were the majority of churched during that time period.
The name of each church describes the characteristic of the church period it represents.
1. The church of Ephesus. Prominent from 30-100AD. This church remained true to the faith despite the world around them.
2. The church of Smyrna. Prominent from 100-313AD. This church represented the persecution period.
3. The church of Pergamos. Prominent from 313-590AD. It represents the period in church history when Christianity became the state religion. Almost overnight, the church went from being persecuted by the Roman empire, to being the official religion of the empire. Verse 13, seat means throne. The church of God was now sitting upon an imperial throne. During this period the church stopped looking for the coming of Jesus Christ. In their minds, the church was already "reigning," so why would Christ need to return. When Jesus tells them "you have not denied my faith" he means they held true to correct doctrine. When Christianity became the state religion, they finally had power and prestige. Money was flowing into the church, and many of the pastors and bishops were selling out. The seeds of Catholicism were planted and began to take root during this period of church history.
4. The church of Thyatira. Prominent from 590-1517AD. It represents the Papacy period, when the Catholic church rose to prominence. During this period of church history, they began mixing Judaism and heathenism into Christianity, which is spiritual fornication.
5. The church of Sardis. Prominent from 1517-1790AD. It represents the reformation period. Those who protested what the Catholic church had become. The reformed church became so intent on getting back to the scripture that they spent all of their time studying it without ever applying it. As a result, it became just head knowledge.
6. The church of Philadelphia. Prominent from 1790-1900AD. It represents the evangelical period. World wide outreach when missionaries took the gospel to many countries and languages. This was the revival to get back to spirit led Christianity and not just head knowledge.
7. The church of Laodicea. Prominent from 1900-rapture AD. It represents the period of apostacy, when many will become lukewarm or fall away. The Apostate Church is what allows the Anti-Christ to rise to power. Liberal theology takes over in the church, and they have no idea that they are spiritually poor blind and naked.
The sun and moon portion of the Olivette Discourse is none other than the SIXTH SEAL of Revelation 6. PETER talks about it in Acts 2, referencing Joel. But why? Because unbelieving Jews are making fun of BELIEVING Jews for speaking in tongues. So, Peter mentions the 6th Seal to show that AFTER THE 6TH SEAL, THIS WILL HAPPEN AGAIN WITH THE 144000.
When Jesus talks about the 6th seal, his is in conjunction with... THE RAPTURE.
BOTH of the 144000 AND the RAPTURE is mentioned in Revelation chapter 7, which is BEFORE the opening of... THE WRATH OF GOD, THE 7TH SEAL.
SORRY BIBLE ANSWER MAN, BUT YOU ARE TERRIBLE AT THIS TOPIC.
Ed Chapman
The Bible Answer Man (ha!) insists on attending a church that is so unbiblical. I don’t trust him at all. Just my humble opinion.
Have you studied church history, or are you just parroting other people's opinion concerning the Church Christ established (prior to the apostles writing the epistles and the gospels)?
@@ericlammerman2777I have studied church history, in great detail. Thanks for asking.
@@toddstevens9667 What happened to the Church Christ established, according to your studies?
Are you a proponent of the (nonbiblical) "Church Invisible" doctrine? How does that jibe with Christ establishing an actual, visible church with real bishops and real deacons and whatnot? With a church that continued in the apostles doctrine and the breaking of bread (a physical, visible action)?
At what point, in your estimation, did the visible church become inadequate? Where did we go wrong, and need the Reformers to rescue true Christian worship?
Hank you are the one who misread the bible.
Dr. Walter Martin would rebuke you if only he is alive today.
@bisdakpinoy3428 Both Hank and the late Dr. Walter Martin reject the dispensational pretribulation rapture.