How (not) to lay a PERFECT FIRE | Ep 24

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  • @MappertonLive
    @MappertonLive  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

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  • @UrbanCountryStyleByJudy
    @UrbanCountryStyleByJudy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    We have a fireplace that is slightly larger than yours. It too did not draw well. We had a fire expert in who advised us to buy a grate that was elevated off the floor of the fireplace to get it closer to the chimney. Ours sits about 10” above the floor. It helped tremendously with the draw. We also installed fans atop the chimney to combat the extreme winds off the ocean that we fight with in the winter.

  • @PLuMUK54
    @PLuMUK54 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to admire Julie for trying everything.

  • @katherinekinnaird4408
    @katherinekinnaird4408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You and husband are a great team. I look forward to this every week. Thank you so much. From Bakersfield California USA.

  • @JenningsCraftsBoutique
    @JenningsCraftsBoutique 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Hi Julie, Fi here! We used to make our own 'Fire Starters' by rolling the newspaper from one corner loosely, then kinda tying them in a knot and we'd make a bucketful ready for lighting the open fire every morning! I was doing them from the age of 5 and I'm nearly 61 now, it was great fun too!
    It's sad that we don't have open fires anymore, we were told we couldn't have them because of the fumes (smoke) etc wasn't good anymore, so its nice to see an open fire these days! We had a black hearth (The old ones had an oven and a place to hang the kettle) it needed polishing every week, not a job I liked doing. Ours was taken out and replaced by a gas fire in the 70's... :0(
    One day, I hope my daughter gets married at a place like Mapperton, it is outstandingly beautiful though I've never been myself yet, that's my dream for her lol, but she's 38 now, if she doesn't hurry up, I'll miss such an occasion lol lol
    The light-bulbs that you use, are how they used to be. and the best bulbs to have, they could and often did last years, unlike today's energy ones that don't last that long so have to be renewed every so often!
    Oh my, 'Julie with a sledge hammer', quick Luke runnnnnn lol, clear the area, that was so good Julie to see you stick it out, but ever so funny :0) lol

    • @meri8746
      @meri8746 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I used to read to my children in front of our fireplace for hours. Happy memories!

    • @marg233
      @marg233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love these stories 😘

  • @ruthcr8839
    @ruthcr8839 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yessss! Julie could be a little inpatient when being instructed by hubby.

  • @jeffreyport1099
    @jeffreyport1099 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Bravo for driving that stake into the ground, now you know why I hire people to do such tasks!

  • @MsBritishwoman
    @MsBritishwoman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I mimicked Julie tonight by putting my feet up with a cuppa knowing I'd be entertained by her and Luke. Funny stuff! Keep the laughs coming!

  • @dazzlingchick
    @dazzlingchick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Love every episode Julie. You and your husband are naturals in front of the camera. Your genuine humor and personality shine through. Continued Blessings and Support. ~Love&Light♥️Carli

  • @rl5870
    @rl5870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    So much love how Julie wants to participate & experience EVERTHING!

  • @Helen_Sweetpea79
    @Helen_Sweetpea79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love how Luke and Julie interact with each other, so much fun seeing just how much work goes into keeping Mapperton running. I can't wait to visit one day. Sending love from Berkshire 🖤

  • @taunyawren8020
    @taunyawren8020 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing your life. I like the idea of having fireside chats.

  • @maureenb6095
    @maureenb6095 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    These are my favorite videos! Watching the two of you interact with each other, seeing Julie attempt any and everything that’s put before her, and seeing things that are done around Mapperton. It just makes for an awesome video and makes me want more! Thank you! 🌸🌸

  • @katespainhower1963
    @katespainhower1963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Love how silly Julie and Luke are together.

    • @sammom8599
      @sammom8599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Really? I always wonder why they are still married. She seems soooo “over” him. The constant snarking is annoying from her. It’s not silly at all. I’ve watched a few videos and I’m done.

    • @mawmawd627
      @mawmawd627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sammom8599 I’m very sorry to say I feel the same vibe. There seems to be underlying tension when they are onscreen together. It makes me slightly uncomfortable but I watch anyway because I love to see their projects and their home which they’ve so kindly shared.

    • @thomasmcnerney9745
      @thomasmcnerney9745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They're very well matched.
      There isnt any tension between them...she is just a high energy person with a quick moving thought process. He's laid back in his delivery and it counters her energy level.
      They wouldn't have made it for over 20 yrs if the presumed angst was there. At first it appears that way but she is the same persona in solo videos...perhaps a bit nervous in front of a camera.
      Better than the two of them being the same in their delivery...those adds spark and keeps the relationship moving forward. Plus they have an ENORMOUS responsibility in keeping that property in tip top shape. Julie is doing a great job showing how as an outsider she had rolled up her sleeves and gotten to work. They're fine!

  • @mandocool
    @mandocool 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You and that sledgehammer 🤣🤣

  • @FranLuckyflute
    @FranLuckyflute 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Oh my goodness thank you…when I’m having a bad day, you cheer me up.

  • @Sharon-we5cd
    @Sharon-we5cd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how Julie just decides she’s going to sit and enjoy her tea while Luke is still working on the fire. 😂

  • @carolmiller2683
    @carolmiller2683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with comments below--the two of you are so funny. Very entertaining. Julie and the sledgehammer---have to say I was impressed. Those things are heavy and
    having to swing them around and pound them on a long peg---Julie's got muscles!

  • @luciaroslingshaw2112
    @luciaroslingshaw2112 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Totally agree with him on how the newspaper is the key, and billowing!

  • @debbietaylor5579
    @debbietaylor5579 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my gosh, Julie you will try anything!! I'm still laughing.

  • @RachelM-Head
    @RachelM-Head 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Julie with the sledgehammer!!🤣🤣🤣omg that was hilarious!

  • @gwenwade6059
    @gwenwade6059 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tips for fireplaces. Use your cell phone camera to initially check whether you can see clear sky above, from inside the chimney.

  • @lindahyles1331
    @lindahyles1331 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just love the way your up to have ago at anything Julie 👍🏻 good on u 😁

  • @coniwatson9512
    @coniwatson9512 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Keep going guys . You make me smile.thanks

  • @Gracenglory5
    @Gracenglory5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    New binge watcher here 🙋🏼‍♀️. You two crack me up! Julie, those jeans you’re wearing are a dream!!! I’ve actually just searched the Internet high and low for HOURS trying to find some like it...nothin 🥺. Good on you, Julie, for swinging the sledge with such determination! Brilliant!

    • @MappertonLive
      @MappertonLive  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lot's of Julie's clothing is from Boden!

    • @Gracenglory5
      @Gracenglory5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MappertonLive oh thank you ever so much!! I just gave a look. I found the jeans plus so much more!! 🤩💞

  • @lindaholquist7262
    @lindaholquist7262 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    OK Julie. being a coaster user on wooden furniture, I was shocked to see you put your tea cup down on the wooden stand beside the fireplace (without a coaster). Yeah Luke! You used the coaster on the wooden stand! 😄

  • @suerobinson844
    @suerobinson844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    String up fish and smoke it. Good paper skills Luke, perfect fire skills. 🔥
    We are in the second week of spring in Queensland. 30 deg Celsius today. 🌞

  • @bpoliche8850
    @bpoliche8850 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    ❤️I can't believe how much work there is to be done on any given day...but you both keep it informative and entertaining! Thank you for your endless energy and sense of fun....today...chicken mites! 🐔

  • @jacinthehoogerbeets45
    @jacinthehoogerbeets45 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Julie has the stereotypical American amount of patience….. none!😂

  • @BTMmarineLM
    @BTMmarineLM 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Go Charlie, Go Julie! It’s Hammer Time!

  • @katesterly547
    @katesterly547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a joy to watch this. Pure entertainment with a little bit of instruction thrown into boot. Truly enjoy that lovely lovely house and grounds. Stay well, be safe, love from Texas.

    • @MappertonLive
      @MappertonLive  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you! We are so pleased you enjoyed this episode.

  • @gisellenorbury2369
    @gisellenorbury2369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You both are so funny 😆 just love it . Thank you

  • @pollyb.4648
    @pollyb.4648 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You two are so fun together! Keep "doing" fires, Julie, after much practice I now use only one match. Something to strive for, in case you're not too busy. Lol

  • @gwenwade6059
    @gwenwade6059 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Also make a fire in a sturdy old wheelbarrow or barbecue outside. When those coals are blazing red and not smoky in any way then use a fireproof coal scuttle or old garden shovel to set the indoor fire with minimal fuss.

  • @melquast4129
    @melquast4129 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I took over lighting the fire in the fireplace, I was instructed that you needed to "heat" the chimney first. You did this by lighting a sheet or two of newsprint and holding it up inside the chimney and letting it burn. Then you lit the fire. In later years, we had a custom made grate welded and that also helped so that we didn't smoke ourselves out..

  • @denasutera
    @denasutera 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You two are ridiculously entertaining! LOL love love watching your videos

  • @brendam5356
    @brendam5356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love Julie and Luke they make the simple chores in life so funny a joy to watch a go get em couple such a delight I’m left smiling in to my day😀😍😍❤️👌👌🥂🥂

  • @tcampbell2165
    @tcampbell2165 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both of you are awesome together.

  • @set921
    @set921 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol, we make a newspaper torch then light it and hold it up the chimney to warm it up. A warm chimney draws better.

  • @SophieT1416
    @SophieT1416 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. Thank you for the laughs. Don't see how Luke can do this with a straight face. LOL

  • @cedarcottagefarm2885
    @cedarcottagefarm2885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well that was fun

  • @tamaracarter1836
    @tamaracarter1836 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mapperton is *incredibly* beautiful! Thank you for another wonderful video.

  • @a.urbanchuk513
    @a.urbanchuk513 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Must say I do enjoy your video's. I to grew up in Chicago but due to my job ended up in a small town outside of Savannah GA. I also have a great love of history. Keep going.

  • @wendyhart8968
    @wendyhart8968 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your channel, you two are the British Lucy and Desi, made me laugh, thank you. Very entertaining.

  • @jekku4688
    @jekku4688 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you have a fireplace flue, make sure that's open too! LOL

  • @jodieschlipf182
    @jodieschlipf182 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved Martin and the plight of the chicken house. Hope all goes well to get rid of the mites.

  • @MrsJackelineM
    @MrsJackelineM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just love you guys! The Humor between you guys is great😂

  • @lynj-c9153
    @lynj-c9153 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love you both....a bit springy...lol.....Go Julie and Luke! Wow watch out for that toxic smoke! Are the chicken mite free now? Great vlog!

  • @terrythomas2735
    @terrythomas2735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You both are so fun. I love learning about your home and watching how you have fun together 🥰

  • @rhondamartin3575
    @rhondamartin3575 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job Julie!!!!!

  • @bungalowintransition9112
    @bungalowintransition9112 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a fireplace just like this. I figured out that I needed to heat the air in the flu first….mine had a gas start, so I would turn on the gas and light it before laying the fire. Give it a minute and then add my kindling and wood. Never had a problem after that. Since you don’t have a gas start 🤷🏻‍♀️ finding another way to heat the air in the flu would be key to keeping smoke out of the room. Visions of Julie with a flame thrower come to mind. 😂 of course I am NOT suggesting that. 🙂

  • @ilenehancock7595
    @ilenehancock7595 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you light a newspaper roll before you light the main fire and heat up the flue it helps heat the air in the chimney and allows the fireplace to draw better.

  • @pjgreen1786
    @pjgreen1786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got to see Mapperton today. Lovely day out.

    • @MappertonLive
      @MappertonLive  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amazing - so pleased you enjoyed your visit!

  • @karmenzita63
    @karmenzita63 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I enjoy watching JuKe!!!!

  • @ruthcr8839
    @ruthcr8839 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video! Thank you for sharing.

  • @marg233
    @marg233 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like 2 little kids playing outdoors 😘

  • @Curiosity-NZ
    @Curiosity-NZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Julie reminds me alot of Americans I know who just bumble their way through life. They can quite humourous at the best and the worse of times. Don't change anything, Julie.

  • @richardxxx8358
    @richardxxx8358 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    watching this reminds me of my partner "listening " to my instructions. but never quite getting it right. I was so fed up of having smoke everywhere I had a woodburner fitted into the inglenook. much more efficient.

  • @LA-jf1zn
    @LA-jf1zn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this channel! You both are so fun to watch together. 🙂

  • @k.j.hulander2204
    @k.j.hulander2204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A bit disconcerting that smoke alarms didn’t go off with all that smoke going into the house.
    Would it be complete sacrilege to install a nice enamelled wood burner in these old fireplaces in order to facilitate cleaner combustion and better heat distribution (and, arguably, better fire safety)?

  • @juliehare3403
    @juliehare3403 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here's the trick about fireplace fires. There is a cold plug in your chimney that must be SLOWLY heated to release it and begin drawing while the chimney heats up. Start a SMALL fire first!! Once the cold plug is gone and it begins to draw...then make the fire bigger.
    A big fire at the beginning is what causes all that smoke because the chimney is too cold and not drawing.

  • @joanrankin2827
    @joanrankin2827 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg! You guys are funnier every episode! 🤣

  • @luciaroslingshaw2112
    @luciaroslingshaw2112 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is our mountain cabin every time... not getting the smoke in it.

  • @lpkay
    @lpkay 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some chimney flues that don't draw well (assuming flue is not blocked) need to be warmed first. We used to hold burning rolled paper at back until smoke started going up the flue before lighting main fire.

  • @sakurapablo671
    @sakurapablo671 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh man, I would definitely love to help out for nailing certain stuff like that for weddings. Sadly, I don’t live in the UK and would love to live there for odds and ends of jobs to try that I might try my hands at. But definitely great to see you have a go at something, Julie.

  • @barbaramollmann5990
    @barbaramollmann5990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Guess you never changed brake, turn, rear bulbs in a car. Push and twist. Love to see you change a tire on a car. Hey from Newark, Delaware.

    • @SophieT1416
      @SophieT1416 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was thinking the same thing about the lights. Wouldn't wish tire changing on anybody though someone has to do it. LOL

  • @allsorts4041
    @allsorts4041 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing the goings on at Mapperton! Lol I have to settle for my electric fireplace 🤣 I hope the smile worked and Beryl is not scared off from going back into the coup!

  • @feliciakrause1829
    @feliciakrause1829 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love love love your new intro!

  • @scottspaine4864
    @scottspaine4864 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One way to "encourage" the fire to draw up the chimney is to take a lit piece of paper and hold it up in the chimney. Seemed to always work for me when I used to light my fire on the chilly British nights. The theory is that it trains the fire.

  • @ShannonMoody
    @ShannonMoody 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely love this channel!!!

  • @suet3753
    @suet3753 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would just sip tea ....lol

  • @MRGAMAJAVRDDJB
    @MRGAMAJAVRDDJB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LOL.....💛 love you guys

  • @carolvosloo1326
    @carolvosloo1326 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After setting the fire we burn a couple of twists of paper on top to get the air moving up before we light the bottom.

  • @Swede-m7q
    @Swede-m7q 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I learned something new! I will now add a full middle twist to my fluffy ball of paper (Los Angeles Times) when lighting a fire. 🌺

  • @gwenwade6059
    @gwenwade6059 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Try a dishwasher sieve for sprinkling bicarbonate of soda around the soft furnishings in a very finely sieved sprinkle. Leave to absorb odours like smoke, pets etc and vacuum in the morning. Clean grate and hearth after each fire for freshness and anti allergy. Stack wood in piles of four and continue brick laying pattern of wood on top of initial kindling and fire lighters.

  • @rebeccaadelt-lomas6381
    @rebeccaadelt-lomas6381 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to volunteer there during my summer holidays off uni! X

  • @LC-bb6jd
    @LC-bb6jd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These vlogs are so funny!

  • @cmjGemara
    @cmjGemara 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    🤣 you guys are Zany!
    Love you guys God bless! ❤️

  • @michaelgilday
    @michaelgilday 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We used to roll the paper from corner to corner and tie it into a knot or as children make swords with it first as you can tie a knot in one end and you have a hilt and blade.

    • @barbaraoshea8639
      @barbaraoshea8639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly how we did it too!

    • @michaelgilday
      @michaelgilday 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We had broad sheet newspapers back in those days, so they may be more like dagger today!

    • @barbaraoshea8639
      @barbaraoshea8639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelgilday Indeed! We always used the Irish Times! I wonder whether Julie has been introduced to the niceties of absolute requirements when it comes to ‘scalding the pot’ for the fireside tea they will enjoy.

    • @michaelgilday
      @michaelgilday 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@barbaraoshea8639 Probably not, lol

  • @Jeep4X
    @Jeep4X 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes we have bayonet style LED light bulbs in North America. :-) Many sizes, wattages and styles.

  • @leerussell6801
    @leerussell6801 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Debbie here, been following for a little bit, enjoy your videos and the history,, I would love to hear the story when you found out who your boyfriend was……and what it was like meeting his folks for the first time…and seeing Mapperton….

  • @whathappenedtomyYThandle
    @whathappenedtomyYThandle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some ppl in the US use silika / Diatomaceous Earth (DE) For Mite Control. Maybe the mite powder he spoke of.

  • @barimccullough3018
    @barimccullough3018 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    love watching this channel! So fun watching everyone and the antics😊. The British version of I love Lucy. Julie really love the red shoes. who makes them?

  • @LCNWA
    @LCNWA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I could no more pick up that huge mallot & try to hit the that nail! Tell us if you were sore after nailing in those huge nails even w/ your yoga workouts! 😰

  • @lwknicely
    @lwknicely 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You 2 are comical to watch, but I do understand Julie being a strong independent person having trouble with taking directions from your husband who seems a type A personality meaning a detailed person. I do have one of those husbands. LoL! Watching from Phoenix Arizona

  • @MrBrownnn696
    @MrBrownnn696 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did not know how to build a fire thanks for the how too make a fire video

  • @rhondamartin3575
    @rhondamartin3575 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does your fireplace have a damper to open and close that allows the smoke to go out?

  • @gwenwade6059
    @gwenwade6059 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    To aid drawing of the fire in situ you can place a rigid piece of cardboard over the opening forcing the fire to seek the oxygen overhead. Acting like a jetmaster flue system. Just until it catches.

  • @corinnemist3399
    @corinnemist3399 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Grannie and Granddad (who would be 125 years old) taught me at 6 yrs old - roll the newspaper like a croissant (burns longer Luke :) )

  • @f2karin
    @f2karin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t need a half news paper to light up fire I only need some wood chips And one piece of paper. I pile the wood up like a little chimney and put one little cardboard container filled with wood chips in the center and one piece of paper in front of the wood chips light the paper up and mostly it get going very fast.

  • @JeanineMarieCompassion
    @JeanineMarieCompassion 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward!!

  • @Lisa-gs9ke
    @Lisa-gs9ke 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you by chance related to Lord Robert Montagu of Manchester? Here in Charleston, S.C. that last name comes up as a street name. Usually they come from historic family names.

  • @peterseager6738
    @peterseager6738 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How many Viscountesses does it take to change a lightbulb?

  • @taiikomochiyuurichin1459
    @taiikomochiyuurichin1459 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you not know if there are pine trees in the area. Pine cone are one of the best kindling you can get. Adding newsprint paper helps to heat up the real wood o that it will get the fire going easily.

  • @janis6363
    @janis6363 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If it’s that chilly in August, how are you going to keep the manor liveable just in your residence area during a cold winter? I think you may need a fireplace servant full time just to keep up your comfort!

    • @andrewmaygothling6454
      @andrewmaygothling6454 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi J. Luke and Julie put in central heating when they took ever the house. That's in an earlier episode, and very interesting.

  • @JG-fv9bv
    @JG-fv9bv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    16oC ....positively balmy , perfect temperature

  • @filop
    @filop 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jullie is so PREDESTRIAN !

  • @kcstill3108
    @kcstill3108 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Julie, you and Luke are hilarious together. Is the Great Room where you lit the fire the same room you have used for yoga classes?

  • @gwenwade6059
    @gwenwade6059 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If blocked you may need a professional chimney sweep to ensure building regulations safety. In Provence they drop a fine feathered fowl down a cold chimney for a cheaper albeit cruel sweep.

    • @MappertonLive
      @MappertonLive  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We have just had all our chimneys swept!

  • @la_lisa_homegirl
    @la_lisa_homegirl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this🤗
    Thanks for showing & sharing how things get done around Mapperton😊
    Also, I watched a documentary today called "Lord Montagu" (Edward Montagu of Beaulieu) any relation?