Who Made This, SpaceX? | Fan Show Down Episode 7

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  • I know I have been going hot and heavy on the fan showdown videos, but you all seem to like them and I love making them. Make sure to get subscribed and if you want to be on the show, make sure to head to my thingiverse account to see the specifications and then submit your design to the fan show down email account.
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    Joe explaining what the golden ratio is.
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  • @Devan...
    @Devan... 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1201

    "If you're getting sick of all the fan videos..."
    Woah woah woah. Let me stop you right there. The fan videos are the reason I came here. The reason I continue to stay. But your content as a whole is spectacular. No need to apologize.

    • @markzaikov456
      @markzaikov456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      some fans of him (no pun intended) are already here before the fan stuffs~ he's referring to them

    • @BlackHeartScyther
      @BlackHeartScyther 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Same, I'm here for the fans :)

    • @deen8832
      @deen8832 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here man
      Making fan designs that may be able to knock out noctua at a cheap price is why I'm here hahaha

    • @ShiroCh_ID
      @ShiroCh_ID 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yep thats also my reason to subscribe
      also thats why i never or rarely watch any contents in this chann

    • @BrandonMaldonado
      @BrandonMaldonado 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed - I love this series. It's cool seeing what everyone comes up with.

  • @robertvarga6860
    @robertvarga6860 4 ปีที่แล้ว +798

    Should have a special episode with a stronger motors that can run fans like that compressor at higher rpms!
    A multilayer fan with gearing would be interesting, too. Somebody design one xD

    • @generalxp8850
      @generalxp8850 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Oh i would like to see this

    • @awesomestuff9715
      @awesomestuff9715 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      that would have so much friction though lmao

    • @PeytonBesand
      @PeytonBesand 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I've really considered a fan with the gearing, but it would be relatively difficult to make happen since the durability of 3D printed parts isn't the greatest. Then you run into the same issue here that the motor just doesn't have enough oomph to run it at competitive speeds

    • @JoshuaSupeiorToJosh
      @JoshuaSupeiorToJosh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Possibly engineering a shroud just to run all the fans at an equal rpm would be cool. We could see noise normalised, rpm normalised, and thermal delta normalised performance numbers.

    • @HVDynamo
      @HVDynamo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, I would at least be interested in a same RPM performance comparison with some of the other blades just to see what the outcome would be.

  • @poldelepel
    @poldelepel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +381

    Try the duct with one of the fans of the leaderboard! I would like to know if the leaderboardfan would perform better...

    • @scuba535
      @scuba535 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Since it goes inside the frame I’d wonder if they would have enough clearance.

    • @erickmarin6147
      @erickmarin6147 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yesss

    • @roboman2444
      @roboman2444 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@scuba535 Maybe someone can design a duct that fits to the front of the fan instead of internal. Should work with most of the fans, even the stock one.

    • @BullrullarN
      @BullrullarN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would very much like to see this

    • @rvnmihai9108
      @rvnmihai9108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@roboman2444 i was wondering that while looking at the video :)

  • @justsomeperson5110
    @justsomeperson5110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1407

    LOL You know, you could rename the "Fan Show Down" list to "Only Fans" and get a LOT more viewers ... for some odd reason. :P

    • @Xyzair
      @Xyzair 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      Nah, just needs to make a literal only fans account and just profit.

    • @-robo-
      @-robo- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I agree, nothing beats a contest with lots of fanfare.

    • @leovodica9975
      @leovodica9975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Sir, you won the internet that day :D

    • @pmangano
      @pmangano 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I would definetly check out his only fans.
      The new series, i mean, of course....
      yeah... that...

    • @alarastaff
      @alarastaff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fan's fans

  • @matthewneal4881
    @matthewneal4881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +414

    "Are you tired of the fan videos?"
    Nah I'm a fan of them.

    • @kellymiller6737
      @kellymiller6737 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      matthew neal nice

    • @blah007001
      @blah007001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yucka yucka yucka

    • @-robo-
      @-robo- 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fan videos get me all turbocharged!

    • @DaVincisTestDummy
      @DaVincisTestDummy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You blew me away with that comment!

    • @joelhondema3876
      @joelhondema3876 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      GET. OUT.

  • @DawidDoesTechStuff
    @DawidDoesTechStuff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2492

    This jet engine fan is the coolest thing I've seen in some time.
    It may actually be worth attaching some crazy motor to it to see what it can do. If it isn't a HUGE pain in the butt. 😁

    • @cheedam8738
      @cheedam8738 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Yeah, attaching a crazy motor will be awesome

    • @calvinthedestroyer
      @calvinthedestroyer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      Yeah! I want to see how it does at 2000 RPMs! Also, maybe mount a ball bearing on the front first to stabilize it

    • @ChakatGoldstrike
      @ChakatGoldstrike 4 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      I was wondering how the performance would be if the fan was in a vertical upwards or downward configuration. With less twisting force, in the horizontal configuration in the video, maybe it will help before going all out?

    • @arfyness
      @arfyness 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      It definitely needs more rippums!
      Please give it more rippums!

    • @arfyness
      @arfyness 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It could even be driven from the front, while keeping the whole rear assembly intact - just unplug the back motor to avoid inducing current.

  • @CoreyPL
    @CoreyPL 4 ปีที่แล้ว +326

    I love how this series progressed from "Let's print some fans" to owning a fog machine, resin printer, doing decibel testing and being a middleman in selling user fan designs to companies :D

    • @michaelsorensen7567
      @michaelsorensen7567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Did they find the guy with the pikachu tail fan then?

    • @CoreyPL
      @CoreyPL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelsorensen7567 I don't know, I hope so :)

    • @alen2937
      @alen2937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@michaelsorensen7567 They did.

    • @observingrogue7652
      @observingrogue7652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@michaelsorensen7567 Pikachu-tail fan!
      XD
      Now I can't unsee.

    • @michaelsorensen7567
      @michaelsorensen7567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@observingrogue7652 to be fair I didn't come up with it, I think comments on the original vid did.
      But yeah, made me happy 😁

  • @decript2973
    @decript2973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +541

    I feel like a tier list should also be made for the quietest fans.

    • @cncgeneral
      @cncgeneral 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      I'm going to submit a bladeless fan and get number 1!

    • @adriafro7321
      @adriafro7321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@cncgeneral masive heatsinks everywhere

    • @johnbagley8211
      @johnbagley8211 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      So long as there's a performance standard, that would be cool. Maybe a tier w/ best performance to noise ratio?

    • @Stoney3K
      @Stoney3K 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      ... the quietest fans that don't throttle.

    • @aarne1216
      @aarne1216 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      69 likes, we'll leave it there

  • @choopernija
    @choopernija 4 ปีที่แล้ว +256

    whenever you finish this series you should try and improve the top 5 fans with mod. like ducts,smoothing etc :P

    • @luridftwgaming8983
      @luridftwgaming8983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Would love to see that I agree.☝️

    • @REDSIX
      @REDSIX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He can't finish. There is more work to do

    • @tj71520
      @tj71520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree. Never thought fans would be so interesting

    • @bayerbear6770
      @bayerbear6770 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@tj71520 Yeah. I agree. I'm a big fan.

  • @flavioernst902
    @flavioernst902 4 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    The turbofan compressor has false Bladeangels. They should be the other way around. Lot of potential missed right there.

    • @yunodiewtf
      @yunodiewtf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Also it's really not well centered so a lot of energy is wasted on wobbling. Putting a shaft and bearings would make it a real deal.

    • @leggomypotato1484
      @leggomypotato1484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I was about to say the same thing. Looks like he put both of them in backwards.

    • @AlitaGunm99
      @AlitaGunm99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Yep, the stators were assembled backwards. Would like to see it the other way around.

    • @matthewmccarthy9283
      @matthewmccarthy9283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@AlitaGunm99 It wasn't an assembly issue, the stators had part of the angle on their outer loop and can only be installed one way. They were just designed backwards. I bet flipping the part file for the 2 stators is pretty simple for a second run though.

    • @Cerberus984
      @Cerberus984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      ​@@matthewmccarthy9283 While the design concept is complex and pretty it ignores the entire original benefit design of turbojets. In the fact the turbojet is moving at high velocity producing a ram air effect into the intake. As velocity of the vehicle increases the efficiency of the turbojet increases. In the context of current usage of PC cooling it just adds excessive rotating mass with minimal benefit for justification.

  • @JBoulter11
    @JBoulter11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    I enjoy the fan content for sure. It's something no one else does. Mixing it up is cool but I like that you're filling a void no one else is doing things with.

    • @donanders2110
      @donanders2110 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I agree, it is the reason I subbed!

    • @Harmaatukka
      @Harmaatukka 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@donanders2110 Same, I did watch some of his videos from time to time, but now that he has his own interesting thing going on, I subbed as well, and I've enjoyed every episode so far. I think the channel will eventually grow quite well with the current content. One thing I'd like to see in the future, rather than randomly picking fans from his email, maybe have a website where people can list the fans and have them voted by the community for testing, doesn't have to include the files, just a picture and maybe some explanation.

    • @arfyness
      @arfyness 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And the community participation aspect is next level. Anyone can send a design, see it printed and tested! Really quite brilliant.

    • @Sabr3350z
      @Sabr3350z 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I subscribed as well when he started “the fanshowdown” I really like it, send a fan design because I liked it so much. I wished he did more fanshowdown videos! And like other people said, he is filling a void no one is on TH-cam and it’s a blast!

  • @lukehenderson4814
    @lukehenderson4814 4 ปีที่แล้ว +224

    About the lights: the setup is definitely better than before and good enough as-is. If you want to improve, I'd recommend diffusing the light (If it's already diffused, diffuse it more) so that the shadows on you and your surroundings are less pronounced and distracting. That being said, Like I already said before: the lighting is already good enough.

    • @Zondac
      @Zondac 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      and imho swap the locations of the light sources. If you're located to the right of the frame, it's just easier to look at if the light source comes from the left side and vice versa. Because he locates himself to the left in the frame, light from the left probably would end up making it look smoother, but yeah for sure diffuse it more

    • @vikmanphotography7984
      @vikmanphotography7984 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The hard shadows on the background are okay... But the lights creating them are too bright which makes them distracting and competing with his face. See my post for a more in depth breakdown.
      Lighting is half of my job.

    • @deedee4757
      @deedee4757 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep try bouncing the brighter light off your wall to get a smoother diffusion of light.

    • @vikmanphotography7984
      @vikmanphotography7984 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deedee4757 bouncing light off a wall is hard to keep under control in a small, white-walled office but doable with barn doors.

    • @thebeardedgamemaster
      @thebeardedgamemaster 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can use something simple like thin white wax paper for diffusion.

  • @filiperrios
    @filiperrios 4 ปีที่แล้ว +301

    Would be cool to see the “turbofan compressor” driven at 2000+3000 rpm.

    • @MrPhil360
      @MrPhil360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Also set up an exhaust fan with the exit turbine shape

    • @craigleverone414
      @craigleverone414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@MrPhil360 He should add a combustion chamber too :D

    • @toddoverholt4556
      @toddoverholt4556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That's what I was thinking it looks like it should be running on a more powerful motor

    • @nolan20expert
      @nolan20expert 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@craigleverone414 just get to the point, you want a jet engine, we all know you want a jet engine, lol

    • @awahpahpow7735
      @awahpahpow7735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Graphite powder would make that monkey smoooooooooth af

  • @caked3953
    @caked3953 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    I really like this series.
    People try do design a fan,
    everyone with his own mindset
    and out comes a giant open research project that combines wild designs without judging the creators.

  • @code8239
    @code8239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I have to clear some things here:
    1: Propeller MASS has nothing to do with RPM. AIR FRICTION has biggest effect. (well, technically yes. Increased load on bearings cause increased friction, but it is insignificant in this scale)
    2: MOTOR is still DESIGNED to certain POWER and certain RPM. Designing propeller outside of these parameters will make it fail on tests. For ex. Everyone's favorite "jet turbine" is efficent only when there is air rushing IN the fan... not when air is still.
    3: NUMBER of BLADES is NOT equivalent of POWER/EFFICIENCY. More blades = more air friction (drag) = more power loss (actually the most efficient propeller is single bladed with counter weight)
    4: If we read rules 1, 2 & 3, we get rules for winner propeller:
    -fan must have less AIR-friction than original Noctua fan
    -fan must be MOST EFFICIENT at moving air at it's size and power level. (we need to get max power peak of motor and it's rpm to calculate best fan)
    -fan blade count to minimum, without losing too much pressure.
    -fan must not disturb airflow before blades (pop, noice ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) )
    I probably forget this comment in a week. :P

    • @nocare
      @nocare 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Every time he talks about mass im like mass has almost nothing to do with it. Giving momentum to the mass of air you are moving is the biggest determiner of energy consumption. Then there is the efficiency at which you give the air that momentum, loss to heating from compression, turbulence, heating from skin friction.
      Yeah you want to consume the greatest amount of watts possible from the motor and move the largest amount of air per watt consumed.
      I would like to see a watt meter measuring the consumption of the fan in the videos.

    • @Thesupremeone34
      @Thesupremeone34 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nocare actually turbulence improves heat transfer
      in fact, it improves heat transfer so much that when we do the math for it we start by forcing a turbulent flow and calculate the transfer, and then go about figuring out how to make our turbulent flow.

    • @nocare
      @nocare 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Thesupremeone34 I am aware however not all turbulence is good turbulence.
      For instance vortices where the air makes no progress thru the radiator but instead sits in a dead spot and eats energy from the system.
      You don't want laminar flow thru the radiator but perfect laminar flow off the blades would be ideal for maximum air flow.
      So its a compromise game in the design. Most homebrew designs however are far more turbulent than optimal and thats what my comment was refrencing.

    • @NicksStuff
      @NicksStuff 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you going to offer a design?

  • @ArikiH
    @ArikiH 4 ปีที่แล้ว +363

    It would be cool to see the compresor running vertically so the shaft doesn't droop. I feel like its losing a lot of energy to the oscilattion of the end off the fan stack

    • @bluezz5002
      @bluezz5002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      The snoot would droop

    • @woopimagpie
      @woopimagpie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Supporting the shaft wouldn't be that hard. A diagonal brace with a spindle bush/bearing at the centre would solve that problem.

    • @bluezz5002
      @bluezz5002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@woopimagpie your very smart

    • @woopimagpie
      @woopimagpie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bluezz5002 At least I can spell.

    • @bluezz5002
      @bluezz5002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@woopimagpie i can spell im just lazy, its true you seem smart

  • @andie_pants
    @andie_pants 4 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    As a photographer: when in doubt, bounce the light off the ceiling.

    • @deejeh9494
      @deejeh9494 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      As someone with a 1k lumen flashlight, point at the ceiling and everything is illuminated.

    • @ayuchanayuko
      @ayuchanayuko 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Depends. It can introduce a 12oclock shadow.
      Imo, reflectors plus more powerful light but farther distance. Or use that difractor film thing used in LCDs to simulate a farther distance.

    • @arfyness
      @arfyness 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      grovermatic - my whole house is lit this way. Well, ceilings and walls.

    • @userPrehistoricman
      @userPrehistoricman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I moved into a new place a couple of months ago and it has those awful spotlights that were popular about a decade ago. Thankfully they were adjustable and I pointed them up :)

  • @arrowdynamlc
    @arrowdynamlc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    I kinda feel like there should be 2 categories, 1 for fans that fit inside the fan frame and don't go outside those dimensions, and 1 for the big "out-of-the-box" designs, so to speak.

    • @chasesan
      @chasesan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't see why, the top 4 are inside the box fans already.

    • @ETXAlienRobot201
      @ETXAlienRobot201 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chasesan but then you have fans like this compressor design that clearly aren't able to reach their full potential. if for some reason you just want raw power and don't care of the massive amount of sound and possible logistics issues, maybe one of those out of the box designs cranked at their max safe RPM might actually work better. smaller ones could suffer either from great efficiency loss or failure at those speeds, as is the case with other types of fans/turbines.
      at the very least, separating these special designs out makes it more fair. it's not that unreasonable. if anything, it's unreasonable that this is not done. it' kind of like putting an air conditioner against a ceiling fan. the A/C in a contest built for common ceiling fan would lose. the ceiling fan in a contest against A/C or other heavy-duty "climate control" devices also would lose.
      there's also the option to ban out-of-the-box designs completely, but that's really not cool, either. let people get creative. but the conditions should be fair for both types of designs.

    • @turkeyboy5543
      @turkeyboy5543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chasesan then he could give the larger, out of the box fans a bigger motor, so they can spin at a competitive speed.

  • @-robo-
    @-robo- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I am on the hunt for the quietest fan I can find, and this series has been very educational. Thanks, and keep going for as long as your fans will allow!

  • @elijahaitaok8624
    @elijahaitaok8624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    “The golden ratio based off of...” just about damn near everything dood

  • @MeYouDumbBich
    @MeYouDumbBich 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Id like to see what that fan can do on a stronger motor.

    • @CausticLemons7
      @CausticLemons7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I wonder if 140mm fans use different motors. Would a 200mm fan motor fit in that Noctua?

    • @ATSinclair11
      @ATSinclair11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      industrial 3000rpm?

    • @zupasanic
      @zupasanic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      it would do better in terms of cooling but the already loud compressor fan would be extremely loud. its frankly a bad design.

    • @lelepao
      @lelepao 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ZupaSanic that’s engineering not design bruh... Ruben made my day

    • @nacoran
      @nacoran 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I remember seeing videos back in the heyday of CD roms. They were trying to spin them faster and faster and they reached a point where they had to start redesigning the CDs with a supporting criss-cross of stabilizing material because the CDs were exploding in the devices.
      You could actually go two directions- something with more speed or something with more torque. If you added some torque you could get some bigger blades spinning.
      I always get sidetracked on projects but at one point I was visiting my mother at her house. I had my harmonica with me and I noticed that it gave a really cool noise when the ceiling fan was on. I mean, I'd sung through a fan before but since it was a bigger, slower fan and not directly into it it was a different sound. I've always meant to set up a really quiet computer fan with a slow engine and see if I couldn't work something out small enough to put between me and the mic as an effect, maybe with a variable speed adjuster. If it had a consistent enough pitch at speed a specific speed and enough control of speed you might even be able to tune the fan noise to the key you were playing in.

  • @cinnamonsugarcourtney6073
    @cinnamonsugarcourtney6073 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Let's see how that complicated fan contraption goes. And a golden ratio fan~ cool

  • @bigbuckoramma
    @bigbuckoramma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Wow, never clicked on TH-cam and seen "Uploaded 20 seconds ago" before. Super excited! LETS GO!

    • @JikoMuskato
      @JikoMuskato 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same thing with me. :D

    • @evenrik_2214
      @evenrik_2214 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      20 minutes for me

    • @quincybowers5338
      @quincybowers5338 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Always fun. Happens maybe once every two years to me lol. Looks like I was 26 minutes off

    • @bonob0123
      @bonob0123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "first". we say "first"

  • @xNothing2Lose
    @xNothing2Lose 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    "I run a YT channel"
    "How is it going?"
    "I ve got many of fans!"

  • @danielefteriadis6971
    @danielefteriadis6971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Golden Ratio is so pleasing to look at and silent too! ♥

  • @thisisabsolutelystup
    @thisisabsolutelystup 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Do the three blade fan without the duct! Let's see how much of a difference that lip actually makes?

    • @user-lq1dk6gr3p
      @user-lq1dk6gr3p 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      absolutelystupid ikr

    • @yunaraginda
      @yunaraginda 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Or in reverse, add the duct to the leaderboard fans, see if they do better with duct

    • @Burn377
      @Burn377 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      A considerable amount.

    • @phylwx
      @phylwx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great idea!

    • @userPrehistoricman
      @userPrehistoricman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What would the stators attach to?

  • @obhwg
    @obhwg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Man I wanna see that big fan spun at 2000rpm instead of the 700

  • @charliepeterson8397
    @charliepeterson8397 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    can you please put the turbofan compressor on a redbottom and spin it at 2000 rpm and run the test on it and see where it places

    • @JoshuaSupeiorToJosh
      @JoshuaSupeiorToJosh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I'd love him to show noise normalised results too. It would give us more content without him having to put too much time into printing more fans.

  • @myCloudWatcher
    @myCloudWatcher 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Ideas: Use a pack of Straws to direct the flow of the smoke to add "Lines" for the video. Next, add Watts used to the data set.

  • @JCtheMusicMan_
    @JCtheMusicMan_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    If it hasn’t been said yet, you have really grown your fan base. 😎

  • @mc63100
    @mc63100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love these fan videos. Each one has something that blows me away. Last week was the bedroom toy that won 5th place overall and this week is the full blown multi stage jet engine style compressor. Something tells me there are a few eyes from noctua, corsair, thermal take and cooler master taking notes. You're learning more about what an industry could do to improve by messing around with some people on the internet and its amazing.

    • @KalLanPIDT
      @KalLanPIDT 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im pretty sure all those brands are doing this daily but in a real lab

    • @the_retag
      @the_retag 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KalLanPIDT bug companys often dont try lots of crazy ideas but rather try to improve what they have so from something like this they can take promising new starts

  • @EltonColin
    @EltonColin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm here because of the Fan Showdown videos, and their interaction with the audience and the creation of new fan designs. It is interesting and captivates me to watch you.

    • @-robo-
      @-robo- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah,me to. You could say I really got sucked in.

  • @pedromureno4043
    @pedromureno4043 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I like how we're watching an upcoming good TH-camr because he actually reads comments and takes suggestions and even says he's trying to learn to make his videos higher quality

    • @pedromureno4043
      @pedromureno4043 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      and he even improved his print quality

  • @DudeRandom
    @DudeRandom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I just realised that the "Fan" in the "Fan showdown" Has 2 meanings, that's pretty clever

  • @BleuSquid
    @BleuSquid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The compressor concept was the fan I hoped for and expected from this series since the very beginning. Happy to see it was submitted and built!

  • @Creetchure
    @Creetchure 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    An issue with dropping room temperature is the temperature delta will always be higher with a cooler room. The energy it takes to raise the temperature 1 degree at a lower temperature is slightly less than the energy it takes to raise 1 degree at a higher temperature due to the density of the water due to the heat. So at a higher temperature you do lose heat a bit quicker. Now in the case of changing room temperature it may not have a large effect, but you are increasing the possible temperature delta window by lowering room temperature as well. I would recommend running the previous fans again at as close to a static room temperature as possible, in a room of the same size so your air cooling capacity is also not different (air volume)
    TLDR Retest all fans at same room temp, as delta limits have changed, and same room sizes for same air volume.

  • @legitscoper3259
    @legitscoper3259 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I would CNC (Steel) this Axial comressor, fit it with bearings and an shaft, and hook it up to a 300W Laboratory Power supply, and ramp it up to 20k rpm ... Static pressure would be mind-blowing, but so would noise.
    I already have a 22.400 RPM Quad- Counter rotational axial fan assembly... that sounds very delicious like a turbofan engine

  • @undersky596
    @undersky596 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Idea. You should build a rig with all your favourite the fan fan's, regardless of performance, more for aesthetics. The fan fan build. It would look so awesome to see a build with all funky different designs in it!

  • @josephl3602
    @josephl3602 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't think I would be a (lol) fan of this content, but it's actually interesting. I like that people send you their designs, you print them and pit them against each other and test them to see which designs are best.
    Makes ya realize exactly how much engineering goes into something as simple as a fan and it's shroud.
    You definitely have a new sub here.
    Thanks.

  • @timothyhilton6661
    @timothyhilton6661 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Put the shroud onto Thomas’s fan, see if it assists/improves his fan, maybe get that guy a job making fan attachments/accessories

  • @Corang98
    @Corang98 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I would love to see you overvolt the noctua hub with the turbofan compressor on it to try to reach that 1800~2000 rpm range to hear it and see how it does!

  • @MrLuigge
    @MrLuigge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    "you know what happens when a fan is developed under 30 min..." hahahahaha yeah, that is right, good job again thomas

  • @lorenzo42p
    @lorenzo42p 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    the mass of the blades wont slow the motor unless it's causing drag on the bearings. I think the problem you're running into is, pairing the torque and rpm of the motor with fans not designed for that motor. that compressor fan needs more torque, whereas other fans might need more rpm. the motor isn't optimum for the fan. give it 24 volts!

    • @fabianvandermijde4066
      @fabianvandermijde4066 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why wouldnt more blades make the motor run slower? More mass makes it harder for the motor?
      And theres more pushing air by the blades so more resistance i guess

    • @fabianvandermijde4066
      @fabianvandermijde4066 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Dr.Cemong so they do make it run slower cuz u need more volts >,

    • @Kalvinjj
      @Kalvinjj 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fabianvandermijde4066 Accelerating the motor yes. More mass = slower to accelerate.
      But that's only half the story, the flow through the blades is the biggest part of the drag (on a properly constructed fan that is). More blades at a lower attack angle might very well be way easier to drive than a few very steep angled blades.

    • @ameunier41
      @ameunier41 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fabianvandermijde4066 More flow, more power.
      Let's say that fan motor can develop max 12v 2a, so 24w max.
      So if the man move a stream of air with 24w of power at 700 rpm, the motor cant go faster.
      It's like a bike, fatter rider will accelerate less than the skinny one, but they can achieve greater speed if they have more power.

    • @fabianvandermijde4066
      @fabianvandermijde4066 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kalvinjj thats basicly what i said aswell right? Or am i understanding it wrong?😅

  • @comlitbeta7532
    @comlitbeta7532 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    dont even think about making not fan related video, i stumble on this chanel becaus of your crazy fan experiement and now i am addicted

  • @LeglessWonder
    @LeglessWonder 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude the fan videos are WHY I'm here lol. Your other stuff is great too, but I love the concept of people submitting fans for you to print and compete.

  • @johnbeeck2540
    @johnbeeck2540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    NUMBER 1 LIKE! Enjoy the fan showdowns - keep them coming - perhaps expand to a 140 or 200 mm category!

  • @Transit_Biker
    @Transit_Biker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    “I’ll give him props”. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @lordzadd
    @lordzadd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Wow, things are heating up in terms of design. I wonder how the last fan would fair with your drone motor?

    • @JoshuaSupeiorToJosh
      @JoshuaSupeiorToJosh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice pun, everything pulled above 80 this time around. I'm considering making my own entries tbh, it would be a nice hobby.

    • @livedandletdie
      @livedandletdie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seeing as he has a shit motor that belongs to the noctuo fan, it's not weird that he can't actually test fans properly.

    • @alargecookie
      @alargecookie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seriously, that compressor would be amazing for an EDF RC plane.

  • @Rangler6475
    @Rangler6475 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The engagement with design and testing of fan made fans is really captivating content in my opinion. Keep up the fan vids, they're fun.

  • @Xehemoth
    @Xehemoth 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a huge fan of the fan videos. So please do keep the fans coming for the fans so we can maintain our fan fan fandom.

  • @JakeCharlson
    @JakeCharlson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Gotta get some Leds for your face lights. The yellow tones of your halogen face lights and the blue tones from your Led background lights will prevent you from ever getting a good color balance. Need a diffuser for that face light, super harsh edges right now. Also, move your face lights 2-3 feet away from your face and up maybe a foot from where they are now. You want the shadow from your nose to fall into the crease between your cheek and upper lip.
    Anyways, love the fan duel vids!

    • @neonlights_12
      @neonlights_12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bump! A diffuser (or a stronger one, if it's already diffused) will go a long way

  • @nobushi
    @nobushi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I’d like to see a counter-rotating dual fan design, just like the Scythe Fuma 2 fans, but in one mount, just like the compressor.

    • @derpyfpv668
      @derpyfpv668 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It would work really well, but it would be as loud as a damn freight train lol

    • @MissileManiac2142
      @MissileManiac2142 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Currently trying to make one of those. I dont have a 3d printer so I'm not sure if it will work as well as I'm hoping.

  • @garrettloomis6405
    @garrettloomis6405 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    am curious to see if the compressor-style would work better if you gave it a motor that had the beans to push it to its intended RPM....

  • @manr.9106
    @manr.9106 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely the best thought process and execution yet ! The Turbo/Compressor Fan is for me the winner, just because your fan motor can’t propel the fan assembly doesn’t mean that it doesn’t make the board. In my opinion you should rig it up so it will spin with the same rpm as all the others and compare cooling capability. Because it deserves to get the win, as the execution, design and tolerancing is outstanding!

  • @randywelchii9167
    @randywelchii9167 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    These fan showdowns are the reason I subbed to this channel .

  • @SumGuyLovesVideos
    @SumGuyLovesVideos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'd like to see that ducted fan compared to itself w/o the duct

  • @eom1682
    @eom1682 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So the next step would be something like a fan with gear bearings so you have a compresor with different level fans going at different speeds so air accelerates by steps or something.

    • @HMan2828
      @HMan2828 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's just more mechanical load, so the motor will spin even slower...

    • @emi-ber
      @emi-ber 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think that what you are saying is to just make a jet engine and put it on a pc fan

    • @yunaraginda
      @yunaraginda 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      give each fan its own motor with different RPM is simpler to design i think, and lessen the burden of the motor so it will be able to spin faster.

    • @ETXAlienRobot201
      @ETXAlienRobot201 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i think unless he decides to just convert to 100% resin printing [or maybe powder] that those designs are just bound for failure, especially if put on the type of motors actually required to drive them at their max potential. that's a lot of stress for some small, moving parts like gears. any stray material or malformed geometries greatly impacts performance and stability.

  • @dcolodny
    @dcolodny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I'd love to see if the duct on "The Ducted Fan" improves either the noctua or the #1 place fan (forget the name)

  • @blakeolinger1220
    @blakeolinger1220 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice. I love seeing this simple engineering and your experiments with peoples designs.

  • @jamielonsdale3018
    @jamielonsdale3018 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As somebody with no experience in lighting, whatsoever, I hope this still means something.
    You got the lighting perfect dude. Fucking perfect.

  • @iwinrar5207
    @iwinrar5207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Id like to see the compressor on a powerful motor to see the baby go!!!

  • @racerex340
    @racerex340 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How dare he not mount Ruben's work of art onto a more powerful RC motor to show it in its fully realized glory?

    • @data_crunch
      @data_crunch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'll work on a modification to fit on the RC motor :)

  • @johnsherby9130
    @johnsherby9130 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I want to see that jet engine thing running on an over volted fan

  • @grimm00002
    @grimm00002 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, you got me hooked ever since you made the Hyper 212 a water cooling block. The fan showdown is another step into the unknown, to the point that a manufacturer reached out to you regarding the top design. You're doing something no one else is doing! Keep rocking dear sir...

  • @therealboofighter
    @therealboofighter 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching the smoke test while you talk about the heat numbers is a nice touch. Please do this more.

  • @icontrolthespice
    @icontrolthespice 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    your lights seem very bright n focused , maybe get diffusers if you haven't already, but otherwise the lighting is nicee

  • @billionairemaker
    @billionairemaker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    take a shot every time he says "but" or "literally".

    • @MajorHardware
      @MajorHardware  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      RIP

    • @DMalek
      @DMalek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MajorHardware no worries i have coke

  • @OvAeons
    @OvAeons 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    SOOOO when are people going to realize the RPMs a compressor fan needs to compress air is 10s to 100s of thousands of RPM at that size? Just think cars and power adders.

    • @borttorbbq2556
      @borttorbbq2556 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He wouldn't have to get it even up to 10,000 3000 RPM would be plenty to demonstrate at least some of the efficiency though it didn't help much that he installed the stationary blades backwards

  • @lucywucyyy
    @lucywucyyy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    as an areo nerd this series is really cool, its fun seeing people trying to implement real aircraft stuff into fans

  • @jimjjewett
    @jimjjewett ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate the discussion of why they (the different fans) are different.

  • @corentinvaslin6443
    @corentinvaslin6443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Imagine the golden ratio concept fused with the turbo compressed concept...
    Would be so silent while powerful....

  • @scrambledmandible
    @scrambledmandible 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel that advanced lip would go great on that multilayer compressor, as well as putting the RC motor on the hub

  • @ArtyomPlatonev
    @ArtyomPlatonev 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You should redo that compressor in resin and run it with a more powerful motor.

  • @StevenYang506
    @StevenYang506 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please keep making these. I've been binging on all your old content! Some of the newer stuff is just insane.

  • @aqqaluolsvig1564
    @aqqaluolsvig1564 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the fan videos. Fans by fans. I love these cool ideas even if they might not work, might not perform amazing but it is the thoughts that really do make me think more. If I had a printer, I would design my whole computer case and fans and all the doodads with it, out of all these ideas.

  • @Majonez616
    @Majonez616 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That jet engine fan with the cone would look cool with the rounded duct and that's a great idea - to combine some promising features together.
    Ps. The lighting is worse now imo.

  • @fish_in_distress
    @fish_in_distress 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "This fan was made with the golden ratio"
    Me: *furiously scans the comments for Jojo references*

    • @aapelikananena9699
      @aapelikananena9699 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i was doing the same

    • @OmegaSpaghetti
      @OmegaSpaghetti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same, but for JoJo and TOOL. If you like the golden ratio, check out their song Lateralus, the entire song is based off of it

  • @vatankumarattri392
    @vatankumarattri392 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The fan motor is not rated for that heavy compressor fan

    • @snjert8406
      @snjert8406 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow thanks I didn't know that

  • @sammdean1289
    @sammdean1289 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Something about optimizing fan blades is so satisfying or watching people try to optimize fan blades.

  • @MotoCat91
    @MotoCat91 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never apologise for the fans, your fans want more fans!

  • @Pogaspm
    @Pogaspm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "If the engine is powerful enough I guarantee this will be the best"
    Couldn't you say this for pretty much any design?

    • @benjaminoechsli1941
      @benjaminoechsli1941 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe he's saying it's sturdy enough to take any amount of RPM, even levels that shatter other fans?

    • @zoutewand
      @zoutewand 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The motor needs more torque for this piece to function properly I think

  • @meatballs6248
    @meatballs6248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those Fans really needed here in my country its super hot here

  • @rincewind007j
    @rincewind007j 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think your fan conceptions for video content seriously it's an amazing and inspired I watch all of your videos and am a huge fan. 👍

  • @delahkful
    @delahkful 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite part of these videos is how nice the editing is. Like it has that air of janky suffedness but its also so clean

  • @Platinum_Tugboat
    @Platinum_Tugboat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    These videos are just soo freaking cool, im pretty new to them and to your channel in general, but man, I love when people come together and inspire others and all that. Very cool.

  • @F23GreyGhost
    @F23GreyGhost 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your fan videos are what bring me here

  • @johnmoore5593
    @johnmoore5593 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the fans and fan content. Definitely interested in seeing more things from you that aren't fans, but I'm watching every fan video!

  • @thomashendricks33
    @thomashendricks33 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's really cool to see your channel grow and watch you iterate your style and execution of these videos. A+ mate

  • @corynrobinson
    @corynrobinson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I subscribed to this channel solely for the fans. Keep it going

  • @antivanti
    @antivanti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not calling this series "Fan submissions" really is a missed opportunity for a good pun =P

    • @AlitaGunm99
      @AlitaGunm99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How about "fan service"?

    • @-robo-
      @-robo- 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or maybe Fan-Tastic designs

  • @RealBobStovall
    @RealBobStovall 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just stumbled across your channel and I wasn't terribly impressed with the first video I saw in this series (it wasn't the first in the series, just the first on I saw) but the SECOND one hooked me. I've become a (here is comes) FAN. They keep getting better because it is a perfect demonstration of how a competitive market works where everyone gets to present THEIR idea of the perfect concept for a cooling fan. You could almost build a TED talk around this series. That last, shrouded, ducted, multi-stage fan with the stators was just freaking COOL! The reason it was so slow was the sheer volume of air it was trying to move with that teensy, weensy motor. It was, clearly, too much fan for that motor. As you noted, If you could spin it at 1600-1700 RPM it would, literally, blow the competition away.

  • @SnowingNapalm
    @SnowingNapalm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not even close to sick of the fan engineering design videos keep em" comin

    • @SnowingNapalm
      @SnowingNapalm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh and idk if vaseline for a bushing bearing lubricant would've helped any on the fan styles with friction or flat mounting horizontally to earth's surface so not hanging off shaft vs gravity basically a lil support frame to hold it 3 inch or so off desk so airflow has escape path on backside , i wanna put the rollz royce cone on the golden ratio in a duct with propper stretch tolerances :)

  • @enriconapolitano4321
    @enriconapolitano4321 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The fan videos are the main reason I come here

  • @JustOnlyOnePiece
    @JustOnlyOnePiece 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    All I can say is brother you have started something and it is the war of fan and I am a big fans.

  • @techienate
    @techienate 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The fans are the only reason I watch, lol. Try over-volting the motor on that compressor!

  • @jonhattanrai
    @jonhattanrai 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I come here just for the fan videos haha.
    Also I can help you setting up your light properly.
    -Put the lights a little above your eye level will be.
    -Use only half power or less, the goal there is to get a small light ratio between you, the foreground and the background, so, just try to make it even.
    -If you can, use light diffusers, and don't put the lights too close to you, but also no too far.
    That should give you a smooth nice lighting.

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh and if you want more consistent "smoke" flow, try putting a hose in between the jug you use or directly to the smoke/fog machine. The larger the hose diameter the slower the smoke flow speed. I've used about a meter/3 feet long cuts but longer one might even out the smoke machines output.
    A plastic bag works too for smoke storage and you can squeeze it at a more controlled pace than pumping a can.

  • @Squinoogle
    @Squinoogle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely worthy of a special award of some kind, even if that's in the form of a follow-up to explore the potential with a more powerful motor. Hint, hint ;)
    A jig to support the rad and fan in horizontal orientation would all-but eliminate the droop. There may still be some wobble due to it not being perfectly balanced, but it would be nothing compared to the droop.

  • @leozendo3500
    @leozendo3500 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    that compressor design is well done. Looks like a proper turbo server fan. He can get away with not much blade curve because of the stators.

  • @ChrisLesmerises
    @ChrisLesmerises 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The fan showdown MUST GO ON!