2016 Jeep Renegade takes on the Gold Mine Hill Off-Road Review
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I'm glad the renegade is getting the love it deserves
As opposed to last year where everyone was calling it a fugly bastard child. I love my Trailhawk!
It's just guys with little dick syndrome that hate on it. I drive a Wrangler and still think of getting one of these Trailhawks because I really don't do anything that pushes my Wrangler and would appreciate the interior and smoother daily driving of the Renegade.
+endocry not only that but the angles on the thing are excellent, and they look GREAT with a slight lift and aggressive wheel/tire combo. I have two WK2 and still think this would be an awesome addition.
This is on my list (top) for next year, but I'd go for a limited ed over the trailhawk.
6th Gear Auto I just bought one. I thought it was kinda ugly but I need a snow car. I'm really liking it the more I drive it
Thank you my faith has been restored .. Finally getting to see the Renegade take on Goldmine hill and walking up it has made my day ... and Yes it's a Jeep through and through ... thanks again guys
If it wasn't for these videos i wouldn't have bought this car! Sure it can't beat the Wrangler but man is it a dream to drive on and off road with the stock metal skid plates, rock sliders, and a decent 8.7'' of clearance really give me extra reassurance when going through rivers and rocky terrain.
Big van of the Renegade, a great little capable Jeep!
I’m a big van to
this little jeep is really growing on me. i hated it at first.. and now that i've seen so many around where i live.. it's becoming more and more appealing.
They can be really good little 4x4s.... Italy has a good history in rally racing and awd and 4wd vehicles.
Because you're a lemming
I like it alot now and even ordered one, but indeed, it's so diffrent it needs it's time to like it.
I'm pretty sure, when this model gets the attention it deserves, also on american-side, it will mature over time and even get some better offroad-versions in the future...atleast I hope for it to happen. The aftermarketsupport already jumped on it so it seems :)
2:18 looks like your flintstoning it 😂
It does!
Damn he'd have to have strong legs.
Something I've noticed lately is that most journalist usually nag on the weaknesses of cars and trucks. It's about time that someone actually did a review about the strengths of the Jeep Renegade ! I would like to thank you
for a Job Well Done Nathan !!! Roman does he tends to get a little bit lost with cars with CVT transmissions. One or two weaknesses doesn't mean the car is bad
You make a good point because all vehicles have shortcomings. No vehicle is perfect. I guess Roman is more of a "glass half empty" kind of guy.
Agree. I think as soon as Roman here's CVT he assumes the vehicle is junk
This isn't relevant to jeeps, but relevant to CVT transmissions. Imo, CVT transmissions are very good for their purpose. I'm not sure about the maximum torque they can support, though they are engineered to support the torque of the vehicle they come in. They actually work very very well with keeping the engine within its power band. They do the same thing any transmission does, but more closely to a transmission with 8-10 speeds. I must admit that I very much enjoy spirited driving in a small car like a Honda that has a CVT transmission.
I swear, you guys are making videos of everything I wanted. You got the Ram Power Wagon vs. Rebel off-road; the Wrangler Sport, Rubicon and Renegade off-road on Cliffhanger 2.0, and now this! Making my month!
He does the best off road reviews! Would like to see SUVs like the Murano or Explorer on this road.
i would like to see forester xt do gold mine hill off road review
im curious whether x-mode is capable enough to tackle gold mine hill
I'm guessing it would do ok
It would be great if Fiat started flooding the US market with Diesels. The Diesel in the international versions is a good match.
What Jeep has done pretty well over the last couple years is squash out all competition sub-$50k.
Great driving, Nathan. The last Renegade video with Andre driving was just painful to watch. I have to say, as much as I wanted to hate this when it first came out, it is really growing on me. The more I see them, the more I like them. It seems that other than the intrusive traction control and mild stock tires, they do have some impressive offroad performance for what they are. I imagine one of these with some little BFG AT's would be quite impressive.
Michael Smith same
so what happened to the Fiat 500X? It's the same drive train/chassis/climb? We're abusing the pants off them here in New England for much less cost than the Jeep name commands. Just sayin...
You guys in USA, you need to stop using gasoline engines on SUVs. You need to start using diesel. You are losing so much torque which you can get from even smaller engines. The 2.0lt diesel engine in Renegade has 350Nm of torque, much more than the 2.4lt gasoline with 232Nm. With diesel engines you are winning in torque and in fuel consumption.
Been saying that for a couple of years. I can't believe the euro 6 emissions are a problem.
I love that piece of music you used with the 6/4 time signature. One of your competitors used to use that for their end credits, anyone know or remember who?
I own the 1.4 6 speed stick Limited 4X4 can you guys please do a segment on it PLEASE!!!
How's the car now? That was the same build I was looking at getting used.
I heard the 1.4 has a turbo which gives it 210 pounds of torque.
I’d buy if it was made in the US. I’m from Europe and dislike European cars
It takes different driving approach for the newer fiat based Jeeps. You have to keep your foot in the gas, and let the electronics figure out which wheels to turn. It's decent from the factory, but I doubt it would handle driving like this for very long without some seriously upgraded maintenance schedule.
Great Colorado scenery. Great work, Nathan and the TFLCar crew.
Anybody know where Gold Mine Hill and Cliffhanger are located? I want to pin these spots on a map.
I think some of us would like to see the Cherokee Trailhawk go up Gold MIne HIll, Cliffhanger, or Cliffhanger 2.0
excellent review, thank you !!
Your review Nathan it's spot on. I own a Trailhawk diesel which has a lot more torque than the petrol version sold in America and It's even better offlroad.
Great Video! An interesting mash up would be all the Jeep models with the top Trail Rated configuration. Wrangler Rubi v TH Grand Cherokee with QDII v TH Cherokee v TH Renegade. Keep up the great videos!
Absolytely agree with you on this one! Come on TFL...DO IT!!!!
I love Nathan
Everyone thinks because I drive a Rubicon that I am joking when I say this but I LOVE the Renegade.
Sounds like a lawnmower.
+Alvaro Lopez lawnmowers look better
jeep totally nails offroading with the superior awd. extremely fast reacting to wheelslip. breezed through all stages like it was nothing.
I've seen these go through alot harder stuff. Especially when you give some better tires and a little lift. I wouldn't say its a light offroader
To be fair, the diesel version is probably way better too
if SpongeBob were a car, he'd be a renegade
Good but true..
Nice review Nathan......I like the fact that you put that car into rock mode and FWD low, as expecting to go up that trail in the same mode you would use on a roadway is really not very genuine to the car's capability. Nice that you added the approach and breakover angles as well....Though, can it tow?
The only issue I have with this car are those tires....those Goodyear SRA's are tricky on wet surfaces.
Tony Iacona I have a 2015 Renegade Trailhawk and it has a towing capacity of 2000lbs. I pull with it all the time with no issues.
How's the little jeep been with reliability any major issues? looking at getting one of these.
I just bought a orange one and like it. Like the switch for snow,sand and mud makes it easy for the wife. Also have a Jeep Patriot and does so good on snow and ice you don’t even now it’s on the road. These small cheap Jeep’s are a must if you need to get to work in all kinds of road conditions.
NICE AWD CAR . I HAVE FWD HONDA VEZEL 1500 CC.
I love this suv it's SO cute
I have one and it's a keeper . Good all round vehicle
I'd love to see how the Cherokee trail hawk does on the cliff hanger 2.0
Little fella did pretty well I'd say. Pretty agressive AWD system. Really locks up the brakes on the wheel that is slipping and forced the torque to the other side. Nice job Jeep.
Nice review
But boy that engine sounds terrible. lol
Excellent Production Quality of the video. Love 1080p60
The Renegade definitely redeemed itself after the last outing it had!
Yeah I felt like they made it get "stuck" down low on purpose. A slightly different line and it would have gone up a lot farther.
Stuka87 I thought so too honestly
Cliffhanger needed at a minimum airing down and some momentum, a set of all terrains would have helped a ton too. They ran it box stock without airing down and didn't carry much momentum.
2:18 Fred Flintstone?
I love Nathan
Love my new Renegade Trailhawk. Ive only had one chance to take it off road so far but it definitely exceeding my expectations (and exceeded my comfort level as I didn't want to ding up my new baby its first week but got myself on some trails where there was no turning back).
Update: The 2016 Jeep Renegade Trailhawk SUV has a recurring power seat problem that prevents the use of the 8-way power and lumbar functions. My vehicle does not hold up well under urban off-road driving. The driver power seat system has become inoperable for the fourth time after 36 months and 23,000 miles of driving in the USA.
A Jeep is a Jeep. They have been making the toughest vehicles on the road since 1941. The Renegade may be smaller and may not have that classic Jeep look, but it's still a Jeep through and through. And for those who have issues with a 4 cylinder Jeep, the Willys MB had a 2.2L I4 with 60hp and it did just fine on the battlefields of WWII. Jeep is a company that has had shaky ownership for most of it's life, but they have never settled on the engineers they hire. From Kaiser to AMC to Chrysler, Jeep has always proven to be the most valuable asset of every company that has owned them. Chrysler bought AMC in 1987 solely because Lee Iacocca wanted Jeep, and the world probably has Chrysler to thank for the fact that Jeep still exists due to AMC nearly driving them into the ground. Nowadays, Jeep may be the most valuable automotive company in the world. A true American legend, long live Jeep.
Pretty impressive Nathan!! Friggin thing surprised me. As a Wrangler guy i won't scoff at the little trailhawk version of these anymore.
i enjoy my 2020 jeep renegade latitude,i run bridgestone blizzak tires year round since i only drive 5k miles a year now.had a lot of snow last year and stock tires sucked,should be good now.
Could you do a vs video between Forrester XT and Renegade Trailhawk?
These things are amazingly capable. White Trailhawk with a full pig pen on the roof and black wheels. Nice little ride.
We bought a 2017 Jeep Renegade Trailhawk have to say when these came out they were ugly but after we bought ours it's definitely growing on us
30 Freekin K ? Base on a Wrangler Sport is $ 27,500 and you would have twice the vehicle , Literally.
I dont know why someone would buy this.. To do any kind of trails like goldmine hill you would need the trail hawk renegade. Msrp on this vehicle is 28k for that you can buy a wrangler sport which is way mor capable and doeant make you look like your driving a clown car
This guy knows how to drive it .. but I still wish they would show more of its 4 wheel drive capabilities.. when these journalists get these vehicles.. ie .. show us what the car does in full traction control mode .. where the cars electronics can kill drive to wheels .. and show us when traction control is switched off ! .. it makes a huge difference on uphill momentum.. and in deep mud too .. let's see also a tyre change from road tyres to an all terrain.. it makes so much difference.. when andre tested this jeep he gave up on a trail ! Simply because the electronics cut the power to the wheels , where possibly with all wheels producing spin would have got it through .
somehow I stumbled on this page to watch this Fiat go up 2wd roads in 4wd,.. LOL.. whatever..
Test the Cherokee Trailhawk on goldmine hill! Please!
Four wheel drive dodge dart! lol
its actually a fiat based vehicle i think fiat 500?
+Toguro I just know it has the same 2.4 multiair engine that's in my Dart.
A huge panoramic sunroof option is only available outside of the US.
Love my renegade! Great video of the trailhawk
It just looks like a boring vehicle to me. Especially for 30k.
It's a Fiat 500 for cripes sake. No solid axle, no transfer case. It's a Fiat for the beach or a picnic
Would the forester make it up there with Xmode?
Really want to know this also!
But also the Forester/Crosstrek manuals!?
CVT model, probably not. Subie CVTs are pretty reluctant to rev in general but especially at low speeds. Manual Crosstrek probably would as would a manual Forester if you could get one.
I don't think the manual crosstrek has a low enough 1st gear. Would be a lot of clutch feathering to get up there and we all know how subaru love to burn clutches.
I would say yes, but it will take more time than these Jeep to react. If you try it with a manual one, forget it...the clutch is not enough strong, and VDC doesn't work as good as it works in the AT models, so it won't really stop any wheel to send power to the other one, will just cut the power and kill the engine.
I like the Jeep Wrangler 2-door better but the renagad isint bad
This Jeep got stuck in my driveway what's going on here
I thought that you were Rick Harrison from Pawn stars.
So full disclaimer for anyone looking to purchase one. I owned one for a year, I lifted it with the Daystar Lift and put K02 tires on. THIS IS NOT A REAL 4x4 system. 4low is not real 4low. It will do something until it won't. That might not makes sense but when it stops at an obstacle that's too much, there is nothing you can do, try again, again again, it will not go over it, even if you have the clearance, this is because of the computer system cutting power. And you'll need to be tugged out! That being said, I took mine over the following 4x4 trails in Colorado with little to no problem. Black Bear Pass, Engineer Pass, Ophir Pass, Corkscrew Gulch, Animas Forks, California Pass, Imogene Pass, and a few other smaller dirt road trails. It is not an easy vehicle to do these in because it has no live axels, so it constantly feels like it's going to flip! In addition, if your traveling with people, the seats aren't very comfortable and there is not enough room for true overlanding. It is a lot of fun though for those who need a Trail head vehicle or a NatPark Warrior. Be warned though, I do not recommend even doing what they did without a lift and better tires, the wrangler SRA's are total S.. H... I... T.. and will pop on the first rocky obstacle. That is all.
Great review. Particularly love the music in this video
Although the renegade would never replace my wrangler, I’d love to use one as my daily driver especially in the winter with multiple trips a week to go skiing!
I just picked up a 2021 Renegade Trailhawk and traded in a 2019 Cherokee Limited. One of the main reasons I chose it is because when I test drove it I kept thinking to myself, “God, this feels incredibly Jeepy compared to my Cherokee.” The other main reason? It made me smile.
I have a 2015 Renegade TrailHawk with 97,107 trouble-free miles on it. Mine makes me smile every time I drive it. And I often drive it to places that other people might think it has no business going to in getting to my favorite fly fishing and upland game hunting spots. Of all of the vehicles I've owned in my lifetime, my Renegade TrailHawk rates as a favorite.
i have a 2017 Jeep Renegade Latitude i love it i call mine Rene
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Engine good, transmission awful.
I love the vehicle, until I see the price. My 2015 JKU Rubicon was $34K brand new. I got a LOT more vehicle for $4K.
This vehicle is not perfect, but living in VERY hilly country with snow, the WIFE loves this little renegade. We live out in the country 10 miles from a big city with tiny parking spots, so its the best of both worlds!! I have a 14' Ram 1500 but I also work right outside of the city so it is perfect for me. Between my RAM truck and the Renegade we are on the bandwagon!
Awesome Jeep
Excellent review ! Check out my Google+ page. There I found some videos of the diesel engine Trailhawk version. It would be interesting for this version, you have to test !
In Europe "Jeep Renegade Trailhawk" have diesel engine and nine-speed
automatic gearbox ! 2.0 MJET 170hp TRAILHAWK ,9AT / 4x4 LOW. This is a
2.0 liter Fiat turbo diesel engine ! This is probably a pretty good
version! Not Trailhawk version has also a 2.0 Fiat diesel engine, but
140hp! It probably will not move so well as Trailhawk 2,0 / 170 hp
versioon.Obviously it depends on the Differential gear ratios .
Trailhawk version has a higher ground clearance than a just renegade!
And the price is good!
Jeep Renegade Trailhawk 2,0 l Fiat diesel specs.
2.0 Mjet
170hp 9AT
4WD+Low
Nm/rpm : 350/1500
(kw/hp/rpm) : 125/170/3750
0-100 (km/h,s): 8,9s
Fuel consumption Liters ( highway / city / Average ): 5,2/7,0/5,9
I really really want one of those! Only problem being the price. 30k grand is not that steep in Denmark, but then comes taxes and VAT and all that, and suddenly you're looking at a 60k+ car! For reference: A brand new Fiat 500 1.2 Popstar MTA costs 27k US$ (converted)...
this car is in an Odd Spot. If I wanted offroad, I ll buy a Jeep Wrangler. If I want a crossover, midsize, for TOWN and people moving, I ll get a Toyota Rav 4. This car seems to be oddly trying both.
Everything is lovely about the design of this car except the fact that I avoid Jeep and its headache. My 2010 Patriot was almost like throwing money out of the window with its poor reliability and I could not wait to let it go. This cute one and the Cherokee had some issues in the transmission programming since their birth as far as I heard... And long term reliability is uncertain but I hope it won't be as bad as the Patriot. Also I can't believe the fact this little guy costs, here in Canada, the price of my 2016 Mitsubishi Outlander Premium that has a capable AWD system and enough ground clearance for such light off-roading. Not mentioning superior reliability and more value for money.
Outback couldn't pass the last stage
Love this guy Nathan... he knows his stuff for sure , and knows how to get the best from the renegade ... I love my Trail hawk .... and can't wait to see a tuning firm ...Track hawk ,, the renegade!!
I would love it if it was offered with the Pentastar V6 and the 8-speed ZHF transmission. That would be awesome. And maybe an LSD.
The 8 speed ZF transmission is for longitudinal mount only, not transverse. And the Renegade uses the 9 speed transmission.
Donald Weber Well, maybe the six-speed the used to use on Ram 1500s. I know it uses the nine speed, I"m suggesting it should be changed.
Ivan Matz The Renegade has a transverse mounted engine. Nothing from a truck would fit in any shape or form.
If you want that set up just go with a Cherokee trail hawk. Few more thousand but you get your V6 and slightly bigger vehicle
strandbradley4 I can't stand that vehicle's design. A deal-breaker for me. I'm thinking about the 2017 Compass.
there's something that you don't bring up I know it's almost everybody doesn't bring up about the multiair 2.4 liter what everybody is not stating about the multiair is the fact that the multiair is a hydraulically assist valve body takes the cam and makes it mild and hot which is giving you a hot cam or a mild cam I just don't know when would be nice if you could bring it up to some people so they know that it does have a feature that most injuns don't have just thought you should know thank you bye
Looks good, but not reliable.
I was looking at a used 2016 Renegade Trailhawk while waiting for an oil change to be done on my Nissan Rogue, and I have to say this is a cool little vehicle. I noticed hidden lizards on it! and with the snow and potholes and road conditions where I live in NE PA, they seem to do well. After seeing this I can tell it has the chops to back up its body trimmings. Very cool indeed.
My honda CRV can do that and then some... Honestly thats just a good dirt road in New England. Thats nowhere even close to off roading
Its great that a computer can figure out to get you up a hill but that takes the fun and adventure out of climbing a grade. Anyone can hold a small amount of throttle and sit there to let the computer figure out what tire needs power. I guess that is all part of bridging the gap of a city commuter car and getting it up a hillside. No matter what, this is still a car and not a true Jeep. It is no more a Jeep than any other vehicle out there with terrain management.
I just bought a 2018 Altitude version of Renegade. The AWD/4 Wheel drive system is highly underrated. Excellent vehicle.
This is fast enough for what it is. A good car in the snow and off road if needed. I guarantee I will beat a Mustang GT in 8 inches of snow, just sayin.
Where exactly IS "Gold Mine Hill"? Is it near "Gold Hill" on the Switzerland trail? I ask because I can't find it marked on Google Earth and don't have any trail maps from the area.
I think the funtreks book gives the location.
Ihave the same question, let me know if you get an answe
I have a 19 Latitude and i love it..... only issue so far in the Radio/ Apple carplay screen
Please redo the test with full of gear to simulate a camping scenario. Make it real world review.
Stock it may be kinda ugly, but a nice lift and wheel/tire set up would make it look much better.
and how does this thing even articulate? poorly by the looks of it.
Its not intended to be a hardcore off-roader. It is intended for easy/moderate 4WD roads. It would still make it through any of the passes on the alpine loop, argentine pass, etc.
If one day you were to accidentally trip over and find an R50 nissan pathfinder at the base of that hill, would you run it up there n see how far it gets in 2wd first?
Totally agree with some of these comments. Lets revisit cliffhanger 2.0 with Nathan.
Can you please take a Subaru crosstrek manual transmission up the gold mine, it will give that jeep a run for the money. Has to be 5sp
Is there any difference between this renegade vs the other 4x4 trim models?
On this vehicle, "Renegade" is the model. "TrailHawk" is the trim. TrailHawk trim gets you a slightly taller ride height over other trims. It gets you different front bodywork resulting in a 30-ish degree approach angle. And it gets you a 20:1 overall low gearing, which doesn't seem that low until you consider that S10 Blazers and Bronco II's "back in the day" with 3.42 final drive, four-speed automatic transmissions, and two-speed transfer cases had a similar "crawl ratio." It acts lower-geared than it is, due to additional 2:1 torque multiplication off-idle from the torque converter. You also get additional underbody protection and recovery points on the TrailHawk. If you plan on getting one and getting it dirty, the TrailHawk trim is the trim you want. If you're somewhere in the world where diesel power is offered in this vehicle, that's the one I'd go for, but I have no problem getting most places I want to go in wild country in my 2015 with the 2.4L petrol engine.
I want to see you guys do this with the cherokee.
agreed
For sure, you should do cliffhanger 2.0 with a Cherokee TH (I can personally attest that the Cherokee will do Cliffhanger 1.0).
The Cherokee doesn't have the ground clearance for 2.0. My SJ Cherokee has 8.5" of clearance under the diffs, and I still hit some rocks on 2.0.
+Donald Weber the KL has 9 inches of clearance with no low hanging diffs. a few minor hits to the skidplate is no biggie.
mrvwbug44
What about all the plastic? You assume every hit is going to be a skid plate.
I'll trade my '02 WRX wagon for a Renegade. Any takers?
Add a 2" lift and better tires and I think this little jeep would be awesome. Not that it isn't already a great little jeep!
Have the non Trail Hawk model but 4wd. What do I need to get so I can take it light off roading?