To the guy asking about the fog lights at 5:45 (who's disabled replies), these are steering responsive fog lights. They turn on in the direction you're turning so you can see better into the corner. Several manufacturers do this.
Engineering Explained It's strange. Fog lights should definitely be off before entering water. Otherwise they may crack because of fast glass temperature changing. P.S. On the video sometimes the left is on, sometimes the right, sometimes both.
Alexander Konotop These aren't table lamp bulbs haha, they can take a little thermal action. Lights are pretty efficient these days regardless, so they probably don't generate much heat.
Engineering Explained Some of them are quite hot, there are lots of mentions at different forums. And the suffered cars are not always old. Here is an example with photos: www.team-bhp.com/forum/technical-stuff/135206-mystery-cracked-fog-lamps.html Most of mentions are unfortunately without photos, just forum questions like "omg, my fog lights are cracked, what could it be?". So sometimes it happens though some of lights types maybe aren't really hot and so won't crack.
I just spent 5 days in one of these in Death Valley. Driving on the highway to the park revealed a tall vehicle with a relativity narrow track that didn't encourage anything over moderate corning speeds. The 2.4 engine seemed to designed with NVH (noise,vibration & harshness) to encourage people to opt for the V-6 on Jeep's larger offerings. The seats are not comfortable on a long trip and NEED a lumbar adjustment like the Latitude model has. The automatic transmission occasionally left us flat footed for long moments after pressing on the gas pedal. However, on the Jeep trails and dirt roads the little guy earned it's nick name: MIGHTY MOUSE! Its off-road capabilities at a low price are the reasons to purchase one of these. Rather then compare it to other small crossovers, think of it as a cheaper and more comfortable alternative to a Wrangler for moderate trails.
Blu Blum how do you figure? fiat jeep chrysler ram consistently end up at the very bottom of the list for reliability ratings. They have the last few years
You can't expect a lot of real off-road capability with this type of vehicles. But it is short, not bad on fuel, not bad ground clearance good approach/departure angles... I am buying one for my wife as she always scrapes the hell of the front and rear bumpers.
This trail is more like a long drive way for folks in the northwest. I'd like to see the differential kick in and some tires not all touching the ground at once.
Shipmate dirt everyday too the renegade on black bear pass where a couple of time he was only on three wheel. It did ok. I wouldn't use this as an extreme off road vehicle but use it kind of how they have it here where there is cut trails. for extreme 4x4 of build me a capable vehicle do to that.
@@EngineeringExplained so why are all 4 tires touching the ground at once? This saleswoman is walking you through how to drive through the course which convinces me that you have no clue what your doing. Drive your fiat around town feeling like a tough guy. Please dont forget that your REAL COOL and VERY AWESOME while you run this course.
The renegades grill and number are the perfect match for it, it looks like it’s thinking of why he has a Jeep badge on him “I’m not a Jeep, I look like the love child of a Kia Soul and an FJ cruiser”
Obsidian Viper The Jeep isn't an Italian creation, but the Renegade is, as well as all the Jeep that will come after her, Now the FCA has bought half of America with Chrysler, and also the Viper you have as image is under the control FCA.
Obsidian Viper Actually, it's about as close to an Italian Creation as a Jeep can currently get. It's built in Italy at the same plant and on the platform that the Fiat 500X is. It looks the Jeep part, and I'm sure Jeep had plenty of input into the engineering of the vehicle's off road capability too.........but it is very Italian.
Franco96Juve both of you are wrong it is an american jeep because jeep is an american brand even with fca. The jeep was designed and engineered by american minds and even if you argue that its an italian jeep because its assembled in Italy you cant weigh were its made over the design and engineering if you think that way then where did the materials come from?
Obsidian Viper The Renegade uses the same plant of 500X, it was engineered by Italian engineers, it mounts italian engine and it use the same materials of 500X and of the FCA group. Resigned, now the Jeep is Italian, also the Cherokee mounts Italian engine and transmission, it use plastic from Fiat and it is designed by Italian engineers. Now the Jeep has only the name and its nature from off-road American. Indeed even the more because the new Jeep will also be 4x2 and SUV for the city, like 500X.
I like how she said we are not going to do the other puddle @5:42 Clear reason why Subaru did their press even for the Crosstrek in Iceland while Jeep did a trail with a hill and a few puddles.
She was mistaken. It doesn't have a locking rear diff. The lock feature converts it from an AWD type vehicle that allows power slipping between the front and rear tires to a true 4x4 vehicle that forces power more evenly between the front and back.
jeepncrowd True, it only lock the electronic operated clutch between front and rear axle. Same design on a 4wd Nissan Qashkai or my 4wd Dacia Duster. Why it say "lock" ? Because otherwise the mode is "auto" so you can't tell if the car is running on 2 or 4wd
i plan to purchase one of these. since it isnt really gonna be for offroading, i will get the 'sport' model. same power, but doesnt have skid plates and hooks. but i took it for a test drive today and was very impressed. we took it through 2 feet of snow and had some good fun. i like the ride height and position. very solid vehicle. and in the test, i didnt drop under 25mpg. definitely great for winter driving.
That's actually impressive offroad for such a low little suv (barely can be called an suv). But I always thought these were city machines while on the road seeing them.
So, according to a bunch of journalists, if you are looking at buying a small, stylish automatic 4x4 to take off-roading regularly, this is the one to have... uh, something very is wrong with that sentence... I do love the easter eggs though, that's the kind of thing that makes you fall in love with a vehicle long term.
I see so much potential in this car but please keep make it more intimidating right now it just seems weird to me the interior looks really nice with an exterior or redesign I'd really consider buying this car in the future
Ever noticed manufacturers seem to have a tendency to either give you white or orange colored vehicles? Anyway pretty cool to see. Stuff like this is what makes me want to go off-roading.
That IS NOT offroad, IT IS a Terrain Road!!! Turn on side in the bush and that's a really OFFROAD, which it means OFF the ROAD, it mean WITH NO ROAD under the wheel buddy!!! Here in Africa a toyota corolla taxi run on much worse road than that every day!!!
+Nicola Monti when testing vehicles, they dont let you go off the beaten track... they dont know the people driving the car or their abilities as a driver, so they put them on something a soccer mom can handle. i took one of these in 24 inch deep snow in a test drive just to see when it would loose traction... it didnt. had a little trouble stopping on the ice though. the extra weight is great for getting going, but more mass means more distance in the stopping.
It's okay that the drivers weren't allowed offroad, but it's dishonest to offer a review where it's stated that the vehicle is really good offroad when it was never actually taken offroad to confirm the suspicion.
+mason methot I'm convinced there's about 500 "Jeep guys" that are just complete a-holes and will crap on everything made after the 1970's. Unfortunately they rub off on more casual viewers of the Renegade.
endocry I hear ya. Even they most biggest Jeep Fans will crap on 4 door wranglers and call them mall crawlers and absolutely hate them. I always wanted a 4 door cause it is more convenient but now I'm afraid it will just get made fun of.
They're not even jeep! Damn.. it's fiat Chrysler with just the jeep name. Fiat is a horrible Italian company and Chrysler is crap also. That thing won't last.
I am surprised they didn't have its stablemate the Fiat 500X in the mix. Though the 500x has not yet been introduced in the US it is going to be out in a month. They share the same platform and drive train with different exteriors.
i woud wait til they fix all the bugs in that transmission, same as in the cherokee, they have ad countless reflashes and they replace 12 transmissions/week in the US.
This obviously isn't your fault or anything, but man this off-road course is weak. A good off-road course needs to test clearance, approach/departure angles, and traction. This course didn't really do any of those things, besides one section of that hill. Why don't they make this an actual test instead of just having you drive through some puddles? Seriously a sedan could do most of this.
Trailhawk (abrv as TH) offers a variety of things over the longitude (abrv as LON) (called the latitude in the U.S.). The TH has an increased ground clearance, a Rock Mode on the Select Terrain system, 3 red tow hooks in the U.S. / 2 in other markets, a 4x4 Low system, higher placed air intake (for water fording), reinforced electrical system (for water fording also), TH is only available as 4x4, TH is only availble with the 2.4L Tigershark engine & 9-Speed ZF transmission in the U.S. (other markets have an EcoDiesel available). The LON/LAT models have 4x4 as an option, lowered ride height, in the U.S. the LAT model has the option for different transmissions and engine combinations all have the option to have 4x4 or FWD, it is basically a sport model with the ability to add on a few goodies, however, standard are body colored door handles, UConnect 5.0, 5in TFT display, my sky is an option, UConnect 6.5 is an option, heated seats are an option, all of these are not options on the Sport model. The TH is based off of the LON/LAT model
Thank you for a detailed Answer. When looking to buy a compact Off Roader, I did a lot of research and Finally Bought myself a 2017 Suzuki Jimny. Reason for the decision was that we do not have rocks in UAE. we have Desert and Suzuki Jimny is like a Crab on sand. Renegade won't have much luck on Sand. I went to Jeep Dealer many times in Dubai and every time they told me, if I need to goto desert I better get a Wrangler. as Renegade is not designed for that sort of Off Roading. Seeing How Suzuki Jimny owners pull circles around Expensive modified Wranglers and expensive Nissan Patrols stuck in Desert, I went for Suzuki Jimny and my First test in Desert with Jimny were surprisingly good. This Vehicle just floats over sand without even deflating tires. I purposely dug it in the sand with 2 wheel drive mode. Switch to 4WD, dug in sand more. then Switch to 4WD Low and it backed off so fine that I was surprised. I had Ford Ranger WildTrack, Ford F150 and Later an Expedition. All of those were like rocks digging and getting stuck in sand every time I brought them in. Yes Unfair to say that as I am not an experienced Desert Driver, but again same in experienced Desert Driver as I am, Suzuki Jimny Never got stuck :D Only Issue with Jimny is that its slow, not much powerful and outdated tech. Jeep Renegade has new Tech, Great Sound System, comfort of 4 doors and boot space, and 9 speed Auto with 2.4L engine giving almost as good Fuel consumption as Suzuki Jimny 1.3L DOHC Engine. but again I go to Desert Weekly and I would be spending more time digging Renegade out of sand than Enjoying driving :D I still love the looks and interior of Renegade. Unfortunately Trailhawk is not released in UAE yet i believe, or else I might have taken it.
Thanks Buddy. I met the owner of Liwa Suzuki Jimny Team at SkyHub RC Airfield. They all know me due to my videos on TH-cam and when they saw me with New Jimny they were so happy and welcomed me to team. I hope to find time to go off roading with Jimny Team in coming months. He told me he will introduce me to a guy who can reprogram the ECU to get more power out of engine. But I am not kinda in mood to do that. I might just add Spacers and Under Plates for protection and go Hit the Desert straight. This Vehicle is way too much fun to drive over sand. it drifts, it climbs without any issues and if deflate the tires, it will climb to the top of Jabel Al Faya Sand Dune too :) I shall post regular videos of my Desert adventures in Jimny Soon.
Engineering Explained nothing here I couldn't do in my '01 impreza rustwagon though.... I mean... These "off-roads" look just a tad smoother than the roads around here....
Does it come with the technically knowledgeable female because my 2014 Wrangler did not and it's a huge bummer that I have to go and procure that aftermarket now.
I would sacrifice a little bit of offroad capabilities and Fiat Reliability for a Subaru XV Crosstrek or Forester, third option would be the Honda HRV which I'm sure would last and have great resale.
youngblood23rb I would too, always good to do your research and look at why you're buying a vehicle. If you never plan on going off-road, the HR-V makes a lot of sense.
Jeep's marketing department did a great job of making this sound like it is way more than it is. "Active Drive Low" = does NOT have a low gear. Just forces the transmission to stay in 1st gear. "4wd Lock" = does NOT lock any differential. It just engages the clutch pack between the front and rear differentials so that it is not switching between 2wd and 4wd. At 8:11 you ask her this question directly and her answer is completely FALSE. The rear differential does NOT lock. The center differential does NOT lock. In reality this does not even have a center differential it has a "transfer power unit" and that does NOT lock either. "20:1 crawl ratio" = this statement is true but the way the marketing department uses it is as a relative term. 20:1 is good compared to what? What we are comparing it to is never mentioned. Compared to any actual off road vehicle this ratio would be pathetic. The obvious comparison that they should be sharing is with a non-trailhawk Renegade. Jeep never mentions the crawl ratio of the regular Renegade. But they love to mention that with the trailhawk you get an impressive 20:1. I don't know what the crawl ratio of a regular Renegade is but I am willing to bet it is close to 17:1. So in reality this is barely any different. Not only that but the timing of when they mention it is always right after they mention that it comes with the Active Drive Low 4wd system, implying that this has something to do with the improved crawl ratio. In reality it has nothing to do with it since there is no actual low gear in the 4wd system. The gearing that contributes to the crawl ratio of this vehicle is 1st gear and the final drive ratio. Since the regular Renegade comes with the same transmission the gear ratio of 1st gear is the same. So the only difference is the final drive ratio is slightly higher on the trailhawk. Even though this is way less capable than Jeep would like to admit, it is still way more off road ready that any of the competitors in the sub-compact CUV class. I just wish they would call it as it is.
+KyleTVProductions this is designed to be small. you want bigger, you go up to a different car. and when you mention the back being ugly (i dont personally mind it at all after seeing it in person) i laughed hard. the designer loves that part and you just destroyed his pride.
at over 6 feet tall... i appreciated the headroom in this. test drive showed me that the pedals were far enough away also. so very comfortable. japanese based cars seem to be ill matched for my height. even my current jetta i have to put the seat far back and the shifter is out a touch too far.
Dude! Your steering inputs while off road are waaay too erratic. Watch how much you over steer then correct. Are you nervous? Smoothly does it when off road (Land Rover off road instructor, me)
this is honestly so much like the fiat 500l except with the outdated 2.4l. by the way hp doesnt matter, its torque that does the hard work, however often overlooked by most editors and vehicle testors. perhaps this car wont die on ya due to low oil ( often seen the 2.4l burn oil, which supplies the intake valve actuators) over all i see this thing in 2 aspects, yes its new and its cool, yet as a professional I fully anticipate there to be many problems with it based on little research and development. this vehicle has been rushed to market using many of the same components as the cherokee which has proven to be problematic. the hill descent? yeah ford has perfected that 7 years ago? you may wonder why the less aggressive tires... i am confident that is for ride quality as owners will probably almost never use it offroad due to very limited capability.
I like the renegade and Ive been debating on either the latitude or the trailhawk. I dont usually buy Americans cars because of reliability reasons, especially from jeep, but i really do like the Renegade and this model is made by fiat so I really dont know if that means better or worse reliability. Between the latitude and the trailhawk what is more comfortable? Im aslo debating on the mazda CX5 I test drove that as well and it was very quiet and nice on the inside. Im going to try the Honda HRV soon as well. Anyone got any recomendations or comments?
William Su I think if you never plan on taking it off-road the Honda/Mazda make more sense (economical, historically reliable, better fuel economy). If you are going to be using it to have some fun off-road, the Renegade will keep you smiling. :)
Sexy but way to much electronics on "Offroad" vehicles now days. To much shit to go wrong and too costly to fix because you cant do it youself anymore.
It depends on what you want to do offroad. The most I would go offroad is a trail similar to the one in this video (even if I had a full size truck) or a beach. But for anything more technical, I'd rather have a dedicated offroad vehicle -- which likely wouldn't be street legal.
In the off-road portion of the video, I heard the lady explain that this Traihawk has a rear lockable differential..? I thought it had a centre diff lock, not rear! Am I mistaking?
Evgeni Sibirkin I doubt it has a lockable rear diff- like say a Rubicon. I think it's a center diff but powering the rear axle. So it "locks in" the rear axle- that's my guess
She was mistaken. It doesn't have a locking rear diff. The lock feature converts it from an AWD type vehicle that allows power slipping between the front and rear tires to a true 4x4 vehicle that forces power more evenly between the front and back.
I thought it was a center diff that used the ABS as a form of traction management and that the KL Cherokee Trailhawk had the rear locker while the Rubicons and Power Wagons had lockers on both ends.
Why are you comparing Renegade with Santa Fe? They're not even in the same class. Oh, and understeer and long distance of braking can be caused by these tires, they're specified for terrain, am I right?
actionmethod One of these in black looks nice, and when optioned right, can be had for less than $28k. I'd go for the KL Trailhawk with the V-6 in black or dark grey instead though........and park it next to my XJ just to annoy purists.
In some parts of the country you need to be able to get to the trail in the first place. ;) Where I am to get to places where you need 4x4, you need to travel maybe 300-400 miles. Within 300 miles there are a few trails -- most of which you can handle with fwd if you are smart about it and there is 1 where people take their fancy rubicons to break it on man-made obstacles.
I certainly didn't buy mine for fuel economy, I get about 14mpg and my Cherokee will drive anywhere I need it too. It's a little Loud with air noise but the seats are pretty comfortable. It would be nice to see them come out with a more basic 4 wheel drive system with solid axles on both ends, besides the Wrangler.
A Stanton1966 Grand Cherokee, Dodge Durango, Nissan Armada, every Tacoma except for Off Road trim, Hyundai Santa Fe, Kia Sorento, select models of Ram, Chevy and Ford do not have rear lockers. Congratulations that yours does.
This car is good, but tbh, having been a previous fiat car owner, i dont want to touch anything that fiat puts its hands on, those guys truly believe in making unreliable cars that break down by themselves. The renegade is based off a fiat panda. If u see the panda, u wont like this one
Looks like a whole lot of plastic to me! do they make a decant metal care that will last anymore??? AND TRY TO PUT A DECENT SIZE TIRE IN THAT FENDER WELL! You would have do a 7 or 8 inch lift on that to get a 33 to 35 inch tire under that to really take it off road not dirt road like they are doing!
Engineering Explained Trust me when it get a few years old people will start jacking and stacking these thing just like the Cherokees! The Cherokees you have to lift them sky-high to get any kind of good tire under them.
+Serge Smith the plastic is meant to make the car last longer in winter weather. In the north (Canada , and new England) SALT EATS EVERYTHING STEEL. This is why the expected life of a car is shorter up north, the frame, fenders, brakes, brake line fittings, and just about anything not aluminum or plastic gets rust within 7ish years depending on maintenance. Then the car looks ugly and everything starts to break. The wondrous joy of plastic fenders is that they last WAY longer, and are lighter in some instances. (this is why plastic intake manifolds exist).
To the guy asking about the fog lights at 5:45 (who's disabled replies), these are steering responsive fog lights. They turn on in the direction you're turning so you can see better into the corner. Several manufacturers do this.
Engineering Explained Ah, I thought so but wasn't sure.
Nice feature. I thought the water had shorted something down there so the lights came on depending on which way the steering was turning lmao.
Engineering Explained It's strange. Fog lights should definitely be off before entering water. Otherwise they may crack because of fast glass temperature changing.
P.S. On the video sometimes the left is on, sometimes the right, sometimes both.
Alexander Konotop These aren't table lamp bulbs haha, they can take a little thermal action. Lights are pretty efficient these days regardless, so they probably don't generate much heat.
Engineering Explained Some of them are quite hot, there are lots of mentions at different forums. And the suffered cars are not always old. Here is an example with photos:
www.team-bhp.com/forum/technical-stuff/135206-mystery-cracked-fog-lamps.html
Most of mentions are unfortunately without photos, just forum questions like "omg, my fog lights are cracked, what could it be?". So sometimes it happens though some of lights types maybe aren't really hot and so won't crack.
I just spent 5 days in one of these in Death Valley. Driving on the
highway to the park revealed a tall vehicle with a relativity narrow
track that didn't encourage anything over moderate corning speeds. The
2.4 engine seemed to designed with NVH (noise,vibration & harshness)
to encourage people to opt for the V-6 on Jeep's larger offerings. The
seats are not comfortable on a long trip and NEED a lumbar adjustment
like the Latitude model has. The automatic transmission occasionally
left us flat footed for long moments after pressing on the gas pedal.
However, on the Jeep trails and dirt roads the little guy earned it's
nick name: MIGHTY MOUSE! Its off-road capabilities at a low price are
the reasons to purchase one of these. Rather then compare it to other small crossovers,
think of it as a cheaper and more comfortable alternative to a Wrangler
for moderate trails.
I own this jeep and love it. The all seasons will walk through anything in four low. Very good auto!
Okay, it's official. I'm in love with the Renegade.
You know it has a fiat chassis, and body
+Petite Penguin I know. DON'T CARE! Lol
+Petite Penguin fiats are extremely well made now. Jeep needed that.
***** yes but there not made for offroading and they didnt change anything on the jeep thats actually known for offroading
Blu Blum how do you figure? fiat jeep chrysler ram consistently end up at the very bottom of the list for reliability ratings. They have the last few years
You can't expect a lot of real off-road capability with this type of vehicles. But it is short, not bad on fuel, not bad ground clearance good approach/departure angles... I am buying one for my wife as she always scrapes the hell of the front and rear bumpers.
This trail is more like a long drive way for folks in the northwest. I'd like to see the differential kick in and some tires not all touching the ground at once.
+Shipmate Haha, this was filmed in the Northwest.
Figures... looks like my folks' driveway in Oregon.
Shipmate dirt everyday too the renegade on black bear pass where a couple of time he was only on three wheel. It did ok. I wouldn't use this as an extreme off road vehicle but use it kind of how they have it here where there is cut trails. for extreme 4x4 of build me a capable vehicle do to that.
@@EngineeringExplained so why are all 4 tires touching the ground at once? This saleswoman is walking you through how to drive through the course which convinces me that you have no clue what your doing. Drive your fiat around town feeling like a tough guy. Please dont forget that your REAL COOL and VERY AWESOME while you run this course.
Shipmate really anyone who lives In the mountains
Did she show you her favourite hidden Jeep grille? :^)
He got a happy ending 😅
I ditch this jeep for a long time but after watch alot of videos I find it amazing .
The renegades grill and number are the perfect match for it, it looks like it’s thinking of why he has a Jeep badge on him
“I’m not a Jeep, I look like the love child of a Kia Soul and an FJ cruiser”
I’m starting to like it, it’s everything I need in a car now I don’t need to drive big family 4x4’s anymore
I love my Jeep Renegade Trailhawk 🔥❣️
The first Italian Jeep... And it's beautiful and reliable. I like the Renegade, because i feel it an our creation
Its not an italian creation dont claim a jeep as an italian creation. You have no respect.
Obsidian Viper The Jeep isn't an Italian creation, but the Renegade is, as well as all the Jeep that will come after her, Now the FCA has bought half of America with Chrysler, and also the Viper you have as image is under the control FCA.
Obsidian Viper Actually, it's about as close to an Italian Creation as a Jeep can currently get. It's built in Italy at the same plant and on the platform that the Fiat 500X is. It looks the Jeep part, and I'm sure Jeep had plenty of input into the engineering of the vehicle's off road capability too.........but it is very Italian.
Franco96Juve both of you are wrong it is an american jeep because jeep is an american brand even with fca. The jeep was designed and engineered by american minds and even if you argue that its an italian jeep because its assembled in Italy you cant weigh were its made over the design and engineering if you think that way then where did the materials come from?
Obsidian Viper The Renegade uses the same plant of 500X, it was engineered by Italian engineers, it mounts italian engine and it use the same materials of 500X and of the FCA group. Resigned, now the Jeep is Italian, also the Cherokee mounts Italian engine and transmission, it use plastic from Fiat and it is designed by Italian engineers. Now the Jeep has only the name and its nature from off-road American. Indeed even the more because the new Jeep will also be 4x2 and SUV for the city, like 500X.
I like how she said we are not going to do the other puddle @5:42 Clear reason why Subaru did their press even for the Crosstrek in Iceland while Jeep did a trail with a hill and a few puddles.
Stop posting comments please lol.
Why
you didnt go through mud you went through dirty water.
If only more people expanded the replies. lol.
They keep praising how capable these renegades are. Going through stuff a lowered Honda civic could easily do. Lol.
I've noticed a few easter eggs on my JK wrangler over the years. I love how the designers incorporate the 7 bars and little climbing jeeps all over!
She was mistaken. It doesn't have a locking rear diff. The lock feature converts it from an AWD type vehicle that allows power slipping between the front and rear tires to a true 4x4 vehicle that forces power more evenly between the front and back.
jeepncrowd Really? That's a big difference. :/
jeepncrowd True, it only lock the electronic operated clutch between front and rear axle. Same design on a 4wd Nissan Qashkai or my 4wd Dacia Duster. Why it say "lock" ? Because otherwise the mode is "auto" so you can't tell if the car is running on 2 or 4wd
"Contact with the extinct reptile" LOL
You loved the dinosaur, didn't ya?
coscorrodrift Big fan of Herman the Dino. I believe other journalists called him a different name, but he let know Herman was preferred.
coscorrodrift hehehe
The Trailhawk is a ringer in any kind of off-road comparison in this class. Should compare apples to apples with a Latitude or Limited trim.
I like this thing alot. It's slowly growing on people
I don't even like the Renegade but people that own them seem to like it so much when I see them drive by.
i plan to purchase one of these. since it isnt really gonna be for offroading, i will get the 'sport' model. same power, but doesnt have skid plates and hooks. but i took it for a test drive today and was very impressed. we took it through 2 feet of snow and had some good fun. i like the ride height and position. very solid vehicle. and in the test, i didnt drop under 25mpg. definitely great for winter driving.
Get the off road model; more of an investment.
A Stanton1966 I will not purchase an automatic transmission. I have my pride as a man
That's actually impressive offroad for such a low little suv (barely can be called an suv). But I always thought these were city machines while on the road seeing them.
So, according to a bunch of journalists, if you are looking at buying a small, stylish automatic 4x4 to take off-roading regularly, this is the one to have... uh, something very is wrong with that sentence... I do love the easter eggs though, that's the kind of thing that makes you fall in love with a vehicle long term.
Love it!! Now Jeep has a serious line-up from top to bottom!
I see so much potential in this car but please keep make it more intimidating right now it just seems weird to me the interior looks really nice with an exterior or redesign I'd really consider buying this car in the future
24mpg is not a drawback, it is a strong point. this a true off road vehicle. is there any off road vehicle can get 24 mpg???
that's what ABS DOES!! YOUR GOING TO FEEL IT!!!!
Ever noticed manufacturers seem to have a tendency to either give you white or orange colored vehicles? Anyway pretty cool to see. Stuff like this is what makes me want to go off-roading.
That IS NOT offroad, IT IS a Terrain Road!!! Turn on side in the bush and that's a really OFFROAD, which it means OFF the ROAD, it mean WITH NO ROAD under the wheel buddy!!!
Here in Africa a toyota corolla taxi run on much worse road than that every day!!!
+Nicola Monti when testing vehicles, they dont let you go off the beaten track... they dont know the people driving the car or their abilities as a driver, so they put them on something a soccer mom can handle. i took one of these in 24 inch deep snow in a test drive just to see when it would loose traction... it didnt. had a little trouble stopping on the ice though. the extra weight is great for getting going, but more mass means more distance in the stopping.
It's okay that the drivers weren't allowed offroad, but it's dishonest to offer a review where it's stated that the vehicle is really good offroad when it was never actually taken offroad to confirm the suspicion.
When they say "off-road" they mean off the main asphalt roads
It can't cross water higher than 19" ( 48cm ). Is the badest point of it
People underestimate the Jeep Renegade, and pretty much every other new Jeep that isn't big loud and made of metal.
+mason methot I'm convinced there's about 500 "Jeep guys" that are just complete a-holes and will crap on everything made after the 1970's. Unfortunately they rub off on more casual viewers of the Renegade.
endocry I hear ya. Even they most biggest Jeep Fans will crap on 4 door wranglers and call them mall crawlers and absolutely hate them. I always wanted a 4 door cause it is more convenient but now I'm afraid it will just get made fun of.
endocry I've never heard them call 4 doors mini vans but hey, different everywhere I guess :/
They're not even jeep! Damn.. it's fiat Chrysler with just the jeep name. Fiat is a horrible Italian company and Chrysler is crap also. That thing won't last.
I am surprised they didn't have its stablemate the Fiat 500X in the mix. Though the 500x has not yet been introduced in the US it is going to be out in a month. They share the same platform and drive train with different exteriors.
I love my renegade. I can’t believe I almost didn’t get one
i woud wait til they fix all the bugs in that transmission, same as in the cherokee, they have ad countless reflashes and they replace 12 transmissions/week in the US.
No subaru XV :(
Really wanted to see this car
Sireristof1332 No..its better lol.
The cheapest and best off-roader. Like a poor man’s Jeep Wrangler.
This obviously isn't your fault or anything, but man this off-road course is weak.
A good off-road course needs to test clearance, approach/departure angles, and traction. This course didn't really do any of those things, besides one section of that hill. Why don't they make this an actual test instead of just having you drive through some puddles? Seriously a sedan could do most of this.
Kenny TV "instead of just having you drive through some puddles"
"But not that puddle" XD
Why didn't you compare it to something along the lines of a Subaru Forester or Forester XT? I suspect it would've beaten every other vehicle tested.
Love my Jeep renegade
Excellent review, if you had to choose between the Jeep Renegade and a Land Rover Discovery Sport which would you choose?
Land Rover hands down no question.
Guess it depends how important luxuriousness is to you. Land Rover is certainly nicer, but far more expensive. The Jeep was fun!
AevzOfficial Thanks for your reply.
Engineering Explained Thank you for the reply and the review.
whats the difference between Trailhawk and longitude? can anyone tell if its only ground clearance?
Trailhawk (abrv as TH) offers a variety of things over the longitude (abrv as LON) (called the latitude in the U.S.).
The TH has an increased ground clearance, a Rock Mode on the Select Terrain system, 3 red tow hooks in the U.S. / 2 in other markets, a 4x4 Low system, higher placed air intake (for water fording), reinforced electrical system (for water fording also), TH is only available as 4x4, TH is only availble with the 2.4L Tigershark engine & 9-Speed ZF transmission in the U.S. (other markets have an EcoDiesel available).
The LON/LAT models have 4x4 as an option, lowered ride height, in the U.S. the LAT model has the option for different transmissions and engine combinations all have the option to have 4x4 or FWD, it is basically a sport model with the ability to add on a few goodies, however, standard are body colored door handles, UConnect 5.0, 5in TFT display, my sky is an option, UConnect 6.5 is an option, heated seats are an option, all of these are not options on the Sport model. The TH is based off of the LON/LAT model
Thank you for a detailed Answer. When looking to buy a compact Off Roader, I did a lot of research and Finally Bought myself a 2017 Suzuki Jimny. Reason for the decision was that we do not have rocks in UAE. we have Desert and Suzuki Jimny is like a Crab on sand. Renegade won't have much luck on Sand. I went to Jeep Dealer many times in Dubai and every time they told me, if I need to goto desert I better get a Wrangler. as Renegade is not designed for that sort of Off Roading.
Seeing How Suzuki Jimny owners pull circles around Expensive modified Wranglers and expensive Nissan Patrols stuck in Desert, I went for Suzuki Jimny and my First test in Desert with Jimny were surprisingly good. This Vehicle just floats over sand without even deflating tires. I purposely dug it in the sand with 2 wheel drive mode. Switch to 4WD, dug in sand more. then Switch to 4WD Low and it backed off so fine that I was surprised.
I had Ford Ranger WildTrack, Ford F150 and Later an Expedition. All of those were like rocks digging and getting stuck in sand every time I brought them in. Yes Unfair to say that as I am not an experienced Desert Driver, but again same in experienced Desert Driver as I am, Suzuki Jimny Never got stuck :D
Only Issue with Jimny is that its slow, not much powerful and outdated tech. Jeep Renegade has new Tech, Great Sound System, comfort of 4 doors and boot space, and 9 speed Auto with 2.4L engine giving almost as good Fuel consumption as Suzuki Jimny 1.3L DOHC Engine. but again I go to Desert Weekly and I would be spending more time digging Renegade out of sand than Enjoying driving :D
I still love the looks and interior of Renegade. Unfortunately Trailhawk is not released in UAE yet i believe, or else I might have taken it.
alishanmao Good choice and congrats on the purchase. the Jimny can defiantly run circles around heavily modified JKs.
Thanks Buddy. I met the owner of Liwa Suzuki Jimny Team at SkyHub RC Airfield. They all know me due to my videos on TH-cam and when they saw me with New Jimny they were so happy and welcomed me to team. I hope to find time to go off roading with Jimny Team in coming months.
He told me he will introduce me to a guy who can reprogram the ECU to get more power out of engine. But I am not kinda in mood to do that. I might just add Spacers and Under Plates for protection and go Hit the Desert straight. This Vehicle is way too much fun to drive over sand. it drifts, it climbs without any issues and if deflate the tires, it will climb to the top of Jabel Al Faya Sand Dune too :)
I shall post regular videos of my Desert adventures in Jimny Soon.
alishanmao hey btw love the channel keep up the good work didn't know you were into cars though!
at the beginning of the off road test to the end he said "ok" 24 times. Responded with "ok" 23 times. Just in case you were wondering. Because i was.
No, I wasn't. OK.
introducing the new off road prius road bird
Same ground clearance as a Subaru Crosstrek, but a pretty cool crossover!
I saw this recently in person and not very impress. It looks way smaller in person than on video. It has the style that will get old fast.
Im in love of this car!
Engineering Explained nothing here I couldn't do in my '01 impreza rustwagon though.... I mean... These "off-roads" look just a tad smoother than the roads around here....
Am I the only one that wants the 56 to 1 crawl ratio on this one. This thing would be amazing if it had the same setup that my Cherokee Trailhawk has.
Does it come with the technically knowledgeable female because my 2014 Wrangler did not and it's a huge bummer that I have to go and procure that aftermarket now.
6:59 Driving Sports TV guy :D
Jeep Renegade very best 🔝🏆🥇❤️
I would sacrifice a little bit of offroad capabilities and Fiat Reliability for a Subaru XV Crosstrek or Forester, third option would be the Honda HRV which I'm sure would last and have great resale.
youngblood23rb I would too, always good to do your research and look at why you're buying a vehicle. If you never plan on going off-road, the HR-V makes a lot of sense.
Engineering Explained Appreciate the response, I'm new to this channel but enjoy what I've seen thus far, keep em coming!
I've watch a couple in this series, no Subaru Forester?
Jeep's marketing department did a great job of making this sound like it is way more than it is.
"Active Drive Low" = does NOT have a low gear. Just forces the transmission to stay in 1st gear.
"4wd Lock" = does NOT lock any differential. It just engages the clutch pack between the front and rear differentials so that it is not switching between 2wd and 4wd. At 8:11 you ask her this question directly and her answer is completely FALSE. The rear differential does NOT lock. The center differential does NOT lock. In reality this does not even have a center differential it has a "transfer power unit" and that does NOT lock either.
"20:1 crawl ratio" = this statement is true but the way the marketing department uses it is as a relative term. 20:1 is good compared to what? What we are comparing it to is never mentioned. Compared to any actual off road vehicle this ratio would be pathetic. The obvious comparison that they should be sharing is with a non-trailhawk Renegade. Jeep never mentions the crawl ratio of the regular Renegade. But they love to mention that with the trailhawk you get an impressive 20:1. I don't know what the crawl ratio of a regular Renegade is but I am willing to bet it is close to 17:1. So in reality this is barely any different. Not only that but the timing of when they mention it is always right after they mention that it comes with the Active Drive Low 4wd system, implying that this has something to do with the improved crawl ratio. In reality it has nothing to do with it since there is no actual low gear in the 4wd system. The gearing that contributes to the crawl ratio of this vehicle is 1st gear and the final drive ratio. Since the regular Renegade comes with the same transmission the gear ratio of 1st gear is the same. So the only difference is the final drive ratio is slightly higher on the trailhawk.
Even though this is way less capable than Jeep would like to admit, it is still way more off road ready that any of the competitors in the sub-compact CUV class. I just wish they would call it as it is.
the front looks nice. if it was a bit bigger and the back wasn't so ugly, it would be cooler
+KyleTVProductions this is designed to be small. you want bigger, you go up to a different car. and when you mention the back being ugly (i dont personally mind it at all after seeing it in person) i laughed hard. the designer loves that part and you just destroyed his pride.
Murray Kitson yeah true. actually when i see these in real life they seem bigger than how it looks on video xD they dont look that bad
at over 6 feet tall... i appreciated the headroom in this. test drive showed me that the pedals were far enough away also. so very comfortable. japanese based cars seem to be ill matched for my height. even my current jetta i have to put the seat far back and the shifter is out a touch too far.
The Hill Descent Mode, it is controlled by the engine brake or disk brake?
With the money it cost for one these i could make my 1990 cherokee laredo my dream daily driver-4x4.
my 95' civic can do this offroad track
José a bruh lmaoooo
Also please review FCA multijet ii 2.0 liter diesel engine
My right hand would be obstructing my view of the display.
So, no go.
WRANGLER Is best between the two.
Would you recommend this as a college vehicle ?
How is 2000lbs of towing capacity a strong point? Please explain...
Hard core.
Dude! Your steering inputs while off road are waaay too erratic. Watch how much you over steer then correct. Are you nervous? Smoothly does it when off road (Land Rover off road instructor, me)
this is honestly so much like the fiat 500l except with the outdated 2.4l. by the way hp doesnt matter, its torque that does the hard work, however often overlooked by most editors and vehicle testors. perhaps this car wont die on ya due to low oil ( often seen the 2.4l burn oil, which supplies the intake valve actuators) over all i see this thing in 2 aspects, yes its new and its cool, yet as a professional I fully anticipate there to be many problems with it based on little research and development. this vehicle has been rushed to market using many of the same components as the cherokee which has proven to be problematic. the hill descent? yeah ford has perfected that 7 years ago? you may wonder why the less aggressive tires... i am confident that is for ride quality as owners will probably almost never use it offroad due to very limited capability.
chris keiley Four years later I can confirm, you were wrong.
@@confettihunterminus1 exactly
is it erroneous to swap street tires when doing the offroad test portions?
....and, this little jewel has round headlights like all jeeps should have. Oh well, even jeep isn't perfect. :>)
I like the renegade and Ive been debating on either the latitude or the trailhawk. I dont usually buy Americans cars because of reliability reasons, especially from jeep, but i really do like the Renegade and this model is made by fiat so I really dont know if that means better or worse reliability. Between the latitude and the trailhawk what is more comfortable? Im aslo debating on the mazda CX5 I test drove that as well and it was very quiet and nice on the inside. Im going to try the Honda HRV soon as well. Anyone got any recomendations or comments?
William Su I think if you never plan on taking it off-road the Honda/Mazda make more sense (economical, historically reliable, better fuel economy). If you are going to be using it to have some fun off-road, the Renegade will keep you smiling. :)
5:45 Whats with the fog lights?
slyfox2151
Cornering lights for when your turning
Cool Jeep Renegade but i'd rather buy a used Jeep Liberty CRD 4x4. Mostly because i'm a fan of body on frame SUV's!
The Libby is not body-on-frame. They are nice vehicles, though.
Sexy but way to much electronics on "Offroad" vehicles now days. To much shit to go wrong and too costly to fix because you cant do it youself anymore.
Lots of things to go right too. :)
It depends on what you want to do offroad. The most I would go offroad is a trail similar to the one in this video (even if I had a full size truck) or a beach.
But for anything more technical, I'd rather have a dedicated offroad vehicle -- which likely wouldn't be street legal.
Except that the ECU will tell you what's broken, and it's not hard to replace most sensors...
In the off-road portion of the video, I heard the lady explain that this Traihawk has a rear lockable differential..? I thought it had a centre diff lock, not rear! Am I mistaking?
Evgeni Sibirkin I doubt it has a lockable rear diff- like say a Rubicon. I think it's a center diff but powering the rear axle. So it "locks in" the rear axle- that's my guess
She was mistaken. It doesn't have a locking rear diff. The lock feature converts it from an AWD type vehicle that allows power slipping between the front and rear tires to a true 4x4 vehicle that forces power more evenly between the front and back.
I thought it was a center diff that used the ABS as a form of traction management and that the KL Cherokee Trailhawk had the rear locker while the Rubicons and Power Wagons had lockers on both ends.
Interesting look
Please review jeep compass diesel automatic 4x4
Looks off road capable to me
Why are you comparing Renegade with Santa Fe? They're not even in the same class.
Oh, and understeer and long distance of braking can be caused by these tires, they're specified for terrain, am I right?
OskarK Santa Fe Sport is smaller than the Santa Fe.
Oh well, okey. :) But still, it's bigger than Renegade. I think the competitor for Jeep in this class is ix35.
haha someone needs to count how many times you said "ok" when she was explaining everything. Great video though!
Ok
What are some features that this car has that the Subaru XV doesn't?
David Ha Different traction modes, locking center, worse fuel economy. :)
+ 500 lb tow capacity. this looks interesting for a small 2000lb tow-capable, off-road capable, modern vehicle
This must be at Tahuya!
Have you tried a Forester yet? I am surprised it was not included in the comparison. I believe it would fair much better off road than the jeep.
It doesn't lock the rear on the renegade lol.... Only the Cherokee Trailhawk.... Its not really locked... It's "forced" 4wd mode.
Maybe that "Trail Rated" claim badge isn't just Jeep marketing BS after all...
Lol we need an "okay" counter on this video.
off roading became really popular in 2015 i dont remember honda pilots doing this lol
You used low range and hill decent for that?! Eesh you coulda done that in 2wd
probably would've roasted the transmission had he not!
Could have of offroaded that in my big wheel
No introvert could ever drive this.
So long as it wasn't painted like an Easter Egg, I would, and I'm very much an introvert.
GreenJeep1998 It'd look like you were driving you bfs car lady.
GreenJeep1998 exactly... on the street
GreenJeep1998 exactly... on the street
actionmethod One of these in black looks nice, and when optioned right, can be had for less than $28k. I'd go for the KL Trailhawk with the V-6 in black or dark grey instead though........and park it next to my XJ just to annoy purists.
I don't think anyone buys a jeep for fuel economy.
They're just trying to reach another market. It's the same reason the jeep cherokee looks like an asian designed vehicle.
In some parts of the country you need to be able to get to the trail in the first place. ;)
Where I am to get to places where you need 4x4, you need to travel maybe 300-400 miles. Within 300 miles there are a few trails -- most of which you can handle with fwd if you are smart about it and there is 1 where people take their fancy rubicons to break it on man-made obstacles.
the jeep cherokee is a fiat toro
I certainly didn't buy mine for fuel economy, I get about 14mpg and my Cherokee will drive anywhere I need it too. It's a little Loud with air noise but the seats are pretty comfortable.
It would be nice to see them come out with a more basic 4 wheel drive system with solid axles on both ends, besides the Wrangler.
It's not jeep, it's fiat Chrysler just using jeep name. Fiat a horrible Italian company and crappy Chrysler is a bad mix
Tahuya State Forest in Washington!
The tires weren't the best and your vehicle controls were pretty jerky the Slolum ( how it's spelt?) didnt reveal under steer.
I’m looking for a narrow 4x4 that’s capable
what is her favorite easteregg?? dammit jason
LignjoslavLignja What a cliffhanger!
For adults a great playground on Dagobah you found. Hmmm?
Drive on it, we must.
Its Itlalian... good pizza, paintings ,sculpture ,poured concrete stufff...... cars?
I'm having a hard time believing it has a rear locking differential. 95% of fullsize and midsize trucks and SUV's don't even offer that.
You obviously haven't checked out GM pick up trucks. My last one and my current one both have them. It's the main reason why I buy GM.
A Stanton1966 Grand Cherokee, Dodge Durango, Nissan Armada, every Tacoma except for Off Road trim, Hyundai Santa Fe, Kia Sorento, select models of Ram, Chevy and Ford do not have rear lockers. Congratulations that yours does.
the funny thing when he logged into the deep water the right fog light didn't work
+ENG.M elbasel Cornering lamp.
Looks like a Honda element
Is the engine transversely or longitudinally mounted?
Cantenkerous Tim According to Wikipedia it's transverse.
Cantenkerous Tim Well, considering its FWD..
Chad Freznerdickson Several FWD cars come with a longitudinal engine.
This car is good, but tbh, having been a previous fiat car owner, i dont want to touch anything that fiat puts its hands on, those guys truly believe in making unreliable cars that break down by themselves. The renegade is based off a fiat panda. If u see the panda, u wont like this one
Looks like a whole lot of plastic to me! do they make a decant metal care that will last anymore??? AND TRY TO PUT A DECENT SIZE TIRE IN THAT FENDER WELL! You would have do a 7 or 8 inch lift on that to get a 33 to 35 inch tire under that to really take it off road not dirt road like they are doing!
+Serge Smith If you're thinking of putting 33's or 35's on this, you're probably buying a Wrangler anyways...
Engineering Explained Trust me when it get a few years old people will start jacking and stacking these thing just like the Cherokees!
The Cherokees you have to lift them sky-high to get any kind of good tire under them.
+Serge Smith the plastic is meant to make the car last longer in winter weather. In the north (Canada , and new England) SALT EATS EVERYTHING STEEL. This is why the expected life of a car is shorter up north, the frame, fenders, brakes, brake line fittings, and just about anything not aluminum or plastic gets rust within 7ish years depending on maintenance. Then the car looks ugly and everything starts to break. The wondrous joy of plastic fenders is that they last WAY longer, and are lighter in some instances. (this is why plastic intake manifolds exist).
Lucas Klauser Maximizing profits in my book! Plastic is cheep and the car is over priced for being so much plastic!
for 2k more than a KIA soul it's reasonable.
Did any one else get attracted to the jeep logo on the steering wheel?
+Kid Perfect I like the one in the center of the tail lights the best myself.