Our biggest polluters are those pointing the finger. It’s always been major corporations especially out of Japan and China. Air Quality so poor you have to wear a face mask everywhere
I usually don't use the word "virtue signal" because of how political sheeples have ruined the word by calling anything "virtue signalling". However, in this case, I completely agree because it is just a straigh up lie.
*I forgot to talk about Windows 11 system requirements in the video.* Essentially they are forcing people with computer only a few years old to replace them if they want to run Windows 11. My own 2017 Dell laptop's Intel Core i7 "isn't supported" by Windows 11. I am sure it would run fine if I forced the laptop to update using some work arounds.
@@pays-bas7634 I know...but where as it used to be a one click affair to change default browsers.......now you have to go through and change the file association with all the extensions (in 11)
I have the Same problem as Hugh Jeffrey’s has, my intel core i7 Lenovo Y520 from 2017 is also not getting windows 11, but I bet it’s capable enough to run it and that Microsoft wants me to get a new computer. Just dumb😒
I've been saying these exact same things for over a decade. In 2014 or so I got a job repairing phones and was immediately baffled by the design and problems of the current iPhones (4,5, 6, 6S and +) and was randomly interviewed by a national radio channel here in Sweden, just a couple of weeks in and was asked if I had any question I would've wanted answered on the show and I asked "Why are Apple so anti-consumer?" and they giggled a little and moved on. I tried tuning in to the show to find out if it would be aired and answered, but I'm not sure I caught the episode and if I did, I never heard the question aired. I went on to work for another company doing third party repairs and became quite successful at it and stayed in the business for about 3 or 4 years. But after they started releasing the iPhone X's and XR's, I just couldn't take it anymore. I honestly believe Apple is one of the worst companies on this planet and shouldn't be allowed to operate under this current model they employ, it's just plain and simple anti-consumerism and gluttonous greed in excess. It's almost as if they are actively trying to frustrate their customers and destroy the planet whilst doing so. I also recently saw the new Macbook model which had a heatsink and a fan but no heatpipe inbetween to connect them so the heat could actually be displaced outside of the chassi. It has to be an active choice to do so, there's no way in hell their entire team of engineers, testers, quality control and designers would ALL just not see such a massive flaw. I mean any hobbyist or even layman would with a 9/10 accuracy, tell that this was a faulty design which did nothing at all. The fan is just a prop piece that spins and makes noise, it's incredible how stupid they think people are to actually buy this garbage. Boycott Apple, for life. You have to do it to save the market from joining their practice. We won't see much legal actions taken against this practice as corporations lobby for governments and thus basically own the candidates and/or elected people in position, since they sponsored their campaign(s). The world is sick and corrupt and we are only being led to believe we have a choice, it's all a mere illusion. Consumers are more or less cattle for the rich, they toss us a small bone which we pay a small fortune for (GPU prices 2020-2022, don't try to blame the plandemic it was all part of the plan) which then doesn't even last for a year or more in many cases. EVGA 3090 FTW2 + New World = dead card, hmmm what a coincidence huh? Not fking buying it. Don't believe in coincidence.
Hugs to you from California. I'm a novice cell phone user but I knew Apple phones were garbage. I experienced issues with battery, slow-down issues & stuff from i4 to i8 so I threw out all apple devices. Have had somewhat peaceful interaction with Android since 2018 /19. All my family members are attached to apple by their hips. I've always been a cut above the crowd. I still use my Pfaff from 35 years ago, runs like a champ. Got a more updated one to do fancy stuff. Keeping it till it dies or I go. Apple should be sued in every country.
For all his complaining, it is obvious this YT-er is a massive Apple fanboy. Funnily enough, I take his advice more seriously than he does himself, since I've never bought an Apple product, and never will.
I have never owned an iPhone or a Mac. I have stuck it out with Sony Ericsson and Sony Xperia phones since 2002. And Dell laptops. Apple will lose money if there are more users like me.
My 80 year old aunt who can barely operate a dumb phone, let alone a smartphone, has been saying this for decades: "Stuff used to last, and nowadays it's intentionally made to to break, because they want you to throw things out asap and run to the store and buy them all over again.
It really is true. A heating iron from the 80s would last longer than a heating iron nowadays. Some stuff coincidentally breaks or defects after their (factory) warranty expires.
@The General they could make good stuff no matter where they made it, if they wanted to, but they don't. But I 100% agree that dependency on China for manufacturing is a massive problem. It's a hostile regime that just keeps getting worse, and the west is financing it by "investing" billions into it.
@@rin55 They could indeed make good stuff if they wanted to, but at that point what’s the point of using China? Companies use China for manufacturing because it’s dirt cheap and basically slave labor. Terrible working conditions, 100 hour weeks, and afew dollars an hour if that. On top of that China commits crimes against humanity on the daily such as having literal concentration camps full of Uyghur people along with just making citizens disappear when they speak out. The west will do nothing about these crimes against humanity because “MuH pRoFiT”.
@The General Precisely! There would be no point in making everything in China if it cost the same as back at home. Greed will be the end of this planet soon. And the entire situation in China is beyond awful in every way.
And then we hear such buzzwords as “sustainable” and “green” from corporations. Overwhelming hypocrisy is pretty much the cause of the sorry state the world is today.
This is not hypocrisy. They're lying! They lie to hundreds of thousands of people, so they could sell more phones and force more people into buying them in order to make more money, because they are very greedy and they lack conscience.
"Overwhelming hypocrisy" unrionically i believe this to be the major culprit of the pathetic state of the world we live in today. Very accurate assessment.
@@thomasb282 and to think that others consider it to be "higher state of consciousness politics", while might be true in theory, practically speaking it is just a different strategy to gain money and power for low consciousness individuals.
"In 1929 Kettering distilled his advice into an article, written for Nation's Business, with a memorable title: "Keep the Consumer Dissatisfied." "If everyone were satisfied," he explained, "no one would buy the new thing." - Peter Norton, Autonorama.
I hate it when you try to downgrade ios or mac os apple says its "too old or incompatible". Its obvious that apple just programmed software downgrades to be disabled, to prevent people from keeping their devices fast.
I repair phones for a living and i am genuinely surprised how many people still use iphone 6/6s. It is pretty disgusting how companies are doing this crap and getting away with this
When people come into my shop to repair a 6-7 I lowkey think "damn I could never use that" but then again I don't put myself in their place maybe they don't have the money to spend like I do.
@@kbhasi they are actually good phones (apart from at the start with bendgate) customers ask me what to upgrade to? I say what ever you do atm you dont need to upgrade
I used to be a church organ builder years ago. We was still tuning instruments that were made in the 18th and 19th century. The more modern instruments use solid state circuit boards with electrical magnets. There is still no reason why they can't be working a hundred years from now with good care and attention. The really old organs that we still have use wooden tracker wires. The older instruments, although they have parts that you can't just buy from a shop, I could still make new components.
The sad part is that, a person who's talking about the truth of a whole industry like you, never gets that kind of love and support and even positive feedbacks, I feel so miserable being born in a world where money is considered almost every thing
instead of feeling miserable because they do this, feel good for repairing and upcycling instead and stick OEMs the middle finger, you'll feel satisfaction isntead.
One thing that really gets to me is when they show the phone's specs such as the processor like it's the future and will never be outperformed only to kill it off after a couple of years. Even with samsung, after the S8 I found the phones still running fine but never recieving any major updates. besides the security updates they basically just kill the perfectly running phone off the line and move on.
@@ventilate4267 I wonder if security updates slows down the phone like the Specter and Meltdown vulnerabilities costed Intel CPUs some performance. But if so, I wonder if security updates prevent the average user from messing up their phone. I'm still on Android 8 and I don't think there are any problems.
after the s9 they started just dropping features, they followed apple in a few ways - by removing the headphone jack and expandable storage - and did other things like lowering the screen resolution (which I sort of get) and putting the fingerprint scanner under the screen (pointlessly expensive and with less utility than a rear mounted scanner) or using a hole punch display (that's ugly af imo) and has less useable space. s8 and s9 are perfect to me though. s9 has the exclusive feature of the dual aperture which I really like as well
Well considering the future is electric cars, it'll be more like the iphone situation. "My battery doesn't hold a charge like it used to!" "We can swap your battery, it's a 13 hour job $30k parts and labor, or you can get a new car for only $29k"
Tesla has been doing this, some Tesla Model S cars (iirc 2014) had an issue with the battery management board which they tried sweeping under the rug with a software update until at least warranty runs out. The workaround in the update isn't perfect though, so if customers want a fix for this Tesla tells them they're gonna have to shell out for a whole new battery. They have been backtracing on this lately and actually replacing the batteries under warranty, but since when is replacing a $25k battery acceptable, just for a defective board?
nissan did that with there cvt's. they COULD be fixed. But cheaper for the company to sell a new transmission for 4 to 6k then sell the old broken one as rebuilt. They even replaced the broken ones with rebuilt ones and had them brake not long after the replacement... huge lawsuit ensued but there still a lot of complaints about them being unreliable. Absolutely degusting practice
JustRolledIn depicts EVERY item used in America, and then being forced to be taken for "recycling" by subjugated countries. The tech industry is the only REMOTELY ethical one, while you get the equivalent of a new car every time you change oil, for a price that is adjusted for the WORTH you bring into the economy. The ongoing recession is because of how DEMOCRACY handles oil production, and you call your sons heroes for enabling it. Right for repair is virtue signaling on changing the oil, but then letting entire cars pile up as rust heaps anyway because you WANT a new phone every 5 years if not 2. You are the person demanding "just let me change my oil myself" and most of the time just WON'T. Because jsut getting american pork pie munchers get off their butt and DELIVER that spare part, is excused to give a lifestyle to that delivery boy that surpasses building an entire new item, that is WHY the spare part costs as much as the whole thing brand new. BECAUSE YOU AMERICANS GET THAT MONEY.
Whoever decided to have no buttons to control the brightness of a display forcing you to do it in OS should have been severely beaten in the meeting when they suggested it .
Buttons add to the manufacturing cost. On-screen controls are free. This is also why a lot of little gadgets are controlled by app over bluetooth, even when there's really no need for it - a bluetooth chip costs less than a screen and physical controls.
Only Company I know that doesn't want anyone to unlock their phones is Huawei, You need to teardown the phone and do some paid witchery to get it to unlock.
Most of the hardware in an unlockable bootloader phone is still proprietary, meaning if the OEM or the vendor drops support, the community made upcoming versions of a software would still rely on/use the same outdated code for the proprietary components.
My dad keeps on saying the same thing. My dad likes collecting stereo systems and most of his collection consists of Korean made stereo systems around 20-30 years old from LG which still work well today. My grandpa also owns a Hyundai Excel from the 90s that still runs well today and only had its wheels replaced. His Korean-made fractor for his small farm was around before I was born (2001) so its around the 90s and it still works fine. I hope this gets better.
I'm glad I came across your channel. You've really opened my eyes with these repairability, sustainability and reducing e-waste. I used to buy new phone every 1.5 to 2 years. After watching your videos and the getting to know the practices of these businesses and the reduced wastage aspect, I'm now committed to reducing e-waste as much as possible from my end and continue to use products for longer time.
Buy the iPhone 14 Pro or Pro Max and have them for like 4,5 years until software support stops. My dad has an iPhone 7 since 2017 and it's working perfectly fine.
For someone with a username of lifehacker, I find it amusing that you needed this channel with its basic information that everyone has known for decades. Learn how to fix things - saves you money and keeps garbage out of the landfill.
@@mihailoaleksic3330 Using an iPad mini from 2012. Battery is great as well, the wear level is around 17%, which is not bad at all, except for the iOS 9, which sucks.
I work for an IT life cycle company and we're literally drowning in assets that are nothing but wasteful. It's disappointing to see how much is just recycled rather than resold or refurbished.
I'm usually one for free market capitalism, and for little gov. oversite as possible, but I think this is one area where the companies need to be forced to make their products easier to work on by the end consumer, like easy to replace batteries, and longer software updates, then I don't think as much would be sent to the recycle, but at least it's getting recycled, and not just thrown in the normal waste streams.
Yep! I remember an employee of one posting on Twitter about a major multinational company (on the scale of lobbying in ways that benefit their executives but not ordinary people) being lazy at IT management and not removing their devices from their MDM accounts.
There are 15 year old computers that run the latest operating system just fine. I’ve noticed that new laptops have really low specs compared to new laptops 10 or 12 years ago. Probably planned obsolescence because they don’t want to ship computers with good specs or upgradeable ram storage or CPU’s like they used to because they don’t want you keeping your computer they want you to throw it out and get a new one asap. People should resist this when possible.
Soldered CPUs are horrible, I've stumbled upon too many otherwise good laptops which are extremely bottlenecked by the shitty non-replaceable low-end CPU. What's the point of putting an SSD in and bumping up the RAM if you're still stuck with a dual-core Celeron or some crappy AMD APU? Soldered RAM and SSDs are even worse.
Yup I have tried that with my HP Compaq V3000 from 2006, albeit with major upgrades. It can be done to work with Windows 11, although not the most desirable and is barely any better than iphone 4s on IOS9. But yeah the point is we should be given more options to make the most out of the devices rather than average people in University thinking their macbook lasts at most 5 years because the SSD wears out and becomes unreliable and irreplaceable.
@@kztech1319 You can change the CPU even on the 4th gen I series: just see if it ends on U, if not, congrats! Else: company funni money maker laptup go brrrrr💵💵 ( if u did not understand: the U ending in Intel mainly means soldered CPU at least on the I series)
About Android and Google having control over security patches: They've been working on exactly that for about 5 years now. Since Android Oreo, 8, they started splitting the actual Android platform and firmware/configuration for the hardware. This would allow generic system images built for any phone to be able to run with minimal or no additional configuration on devices. Also, since Android 10 there's Google Play system updates: Parts of the OS, such as the media stack, or even the actual Android runtime running apps (since Android 12 only, sadly) can be upgraded by just Google, or even you if you sideload the updates. Seemingly, with every new Android version, they're getting closer and closer to that. I'm glad it's that way.
I agree that is good, but you take the good with the bad, every new version of Android also apparently makes it harder to do certain things, from basic functionality like file management to unlocking the bootloader or rooting (of course the manufacturers are to blame too), so pretty much they keep pushing to make Android more of a walled garden rather treating things as general computing devices which is bad for old devices because it makes them more difficult to repurpose later on.
@@vgamesx1 The file management thing's actually intended to protect the user from apps that abuse storage or create unnecessary directories at /sdcard/ and so on, though was poorly implemented in my opinion. I do think some of these changes are bad, but what Google does to AOSP is **not** the things that try to create a walled garden, it's the OEMs (and sometimes Google again, but with GMS) mostly.
@@jbk0 I'm not a developer, but from what I've read those are the sort of things some devs say about it, a good few of them don't like the new versions of Android.
Two of the most common tricks on electronics is using soft touch plastics and painted surfaces (specially chrome finish). Soft touch wears down, specially under hot weather, and becomes sticky, impossible to clean without strong dissolvent (it could wear down in 2-3 years). The painted surfaces also wear down, making the products look old and diry.
You hit the nail on the head, My father worked for Phillips in the 1950's, he was partly in charge of the inbuilt fail design for valve radios, he told me the company bosses had requested this due to not many fails in the products. I myself have some 30 year old Japanese made Amplifiers and tuners, they all work to this day 100 percent as they did when new, my Japanese made cars are all over 30 years old and they also are in very good condition for there age with very very minimal repairs done. I myself would rather purchase a product that will last and pay more money for it than buy a piece of chinesium crap that is lucky to last 1 week or 1 day past warranty date.
I think that a better product for a higher price is the problem. Many people buy the cheapest thing on Amazon without considering the durability of the product. It's the same reason why Wish exists, even if everything is bottom of the barrel items. It seems like there would be a small market of people who would purchase for durability.
i ever watched footage on youtube about sony's first product, tr-55 radio. surprisingly, it still works well. even they put the circuit diagram inside the radio.
My dad says the same thing. He owns several 30 year old Korean made stereo systems from LG which still work well today and have good sound. My grandpa also still owns a Hyundai Excel and still drives well. No engine overhaul whatsoever.
You are actually right. My laptop did give up at around the 4-5 year mark, i did repairs worth of 70-80 dollars. And its still going strong for the 6th year. Its a super budget laptop form 2016
My Acer "gaming" laptop broke down after less than 3 years where my previous one (also a Acer, but a budget Celeron basic model from 2009) lasted for 11 years (for me and previous owner combined)
I bought a Ford F150 in 2012 along with 6 of my close friends. 4 "major" recalls were issued. 3, ironically, were issued as soon as the chip shortage began. All of my friends had the recalls repaired, I chose not to. All of them have new trucks now because some "issue" cropped up and the repair wasn't worth it. Mine is running like a champ, just put new brakes and tires on it and most importantly, no issues whatsoever. Coincidence... maybe, but I wouldn't put it past any corporation to sabotage their own product if it meant boosting the bottom line. Hell, I'd do it as well if it secured my golden parachute. Just remember, Wall St. and Main St. never run parallel to each-other, they will cross each-others paths at some point. When they do, try to be the windshield and not the bug...but make sure you have a plan B, in case they recall the windshield!
It's always so depressing to see this and worse because here in the US it's an epidemic and there's just piles of useless devices because they can't be repaired or some other circumstance. Planned obsolescence is one of the worst contacts ever come up with and it's only gotten worse in the last 5 years or so.
Hugh, you're a gem! The fact you tell us how your 1935 Dodge is that easy to service or repair with better parts availability than nowadays cars have - and the fact you have and use one in the first place! Thank you for being you!
the most saddest part is whenever these big tech brands come up with new ways to remove features in their smartphones just by claiming they made "better" alternatives, people go with it instead of never talking about the Monopoly.
Yeah, most are just sheeple that way - I myself? I've had 3 smartphones so far and I've always switched company when the previous one removed features I wanted, like removable battery (without special tools!), headphone-jack etc. (Had a Samsung Galaxy SII at first, till it broke. Then I moved to an LG G4, as the newer Samsung devices all had unibody-design and no headphone-jacks anymore and now I am using a Gigaset GS5 (which is from Germany, so from my own country))...I am not playing ball here manufacturers! Hell, I'd have bought an e-reader with removable battery, if I had found a reasonably new model on the market...sadly? None available!
@@normalnon-spyperson Myself bought a phone without headphone jack but I don't like that thing most companies do. I am a former audiophile but I had no choice because that phone was perfect for my budget and sadly lots of bang for buck phones were not in my country and import is like +100$ tax..or so.. At which point might as well buy a different budget phone.. It's sad that they removed Audio and SD .. Guess what ? people are buying earphones & Cloud services are being more popular. I don't mind Earphones for morning walk .. better than big headphones for outdoor run but wired is better atleast , they won't fall down and I won't accidentally loose one !.
@@dreamingflurry2729 Removable batteries are long gone. I have Galaxy E5 and J5.. J5 can remove battery but it's a bit slow , and E5 is barely usable. I also have Samsung A10 which was last phone with earphones , chargers in the box. My new one plus has not headphone jack and Xiaomi or Transsion phones are better value for money but most are not avaialable here.. It cost me extra 100$ to buy them for import. Worse is 150$ with some .. ( imagine if Xiaomi was perfect for budget + headphone jack but I pay 100$ more than people who can buy from china or india because of import. Sometimes products cost almost 90% more ) Profit and tax is okay but lots of tax is sad. As a car lover i hate my country , they made it illegal to modify cars and worse .. even fixing car buying parts not here will tax you a lot. Enough to sell it and buy a cheap one other people normally use.
I realized this when my first tablet's screen connector ribbon cable broke exactly 1 day after the warranty ended. And what a surprise, that cable costs as much as the whole tablet did. This was the template for these affordable tablets almost everytime. (It was kept really safe, yet still..) And there should be laws to allow bootloader unlocking, because it can save devices. My first smartphone (Allview sth, Android 4.2), just magically broke one day, and had no updates before that anyways, but I gave a firmware flash a try, and suddenly an Android 5.1 (I think) firmware from a different Allview model worked. So not only I fixed it, I also got an update.
Had that happen to a alcatel fone. Updated and it broke. I installed previous firmware and it worked. Same thing happened with a t-mobile issued note 4. Updated to latest firmware at the time it stopped booting. Recovery and installed earlier version and it worked
i had a moto z2 force with bootloader unlocked and rooted, one day it just turned off and i found out the OS crashed into itself to the point it wouldn't even *boot*. it stayed at the bootanimation until you turned it off. flashed the stock rom back into the device and it fixed, never had another thing like that. wonder what had happened to it..
Forcing VOLTE onto only Approved phones through Carrier IMEI has done it for me. So many of my phone's will no longer work with with my Carrier. The same could be said for 5G, but I find the speeds a joke.
@petelite I have a Oneplus 7t Pro (Global) that I had to stop using because my Carrier turned off 3G and isn't eligible for VOLTE. Same goes for my Essential Phone on this carrier.
He is correct. I was doing warehouse and forklift training six years ago. Our tutor was telling us that he was working in a factory and he was supervisor. He said everything manufactured in the factory was made in a way that it would fail after two to five years so that people would buy a new item. My POCO X3NFC that I bought nearly three years ago had its usb port fail a month ago but instead of buying a new phone I got a new usb port installed for€50. It should last a few more years.
Great video! As raw material resources are limited, we must start building products that can be used for as long as possible. There are two problems. 1= Manufacturers are greedy and just want to sell new products. There is not enough revenue in supporting old products. 2 = People want the latest and greatest. It's an important status symbol to show your friends you are using the newest. Both need to change. And must change.
I agree with everything you've said about how wasteful the industry is. I do my best to repair laptops I find that have been thrown out to keep a little bit of ewaste out of landfill. All of my hardware is bought secondhand, and I try to get older, very easily repairable hardware (like my 2014 Dell Precision laptop) if ever possible. People just don't realize that the newest thing isn't always the best.
The Dell Latitude E6400 from 2009 is hands-down the easiest laptop I could repair. One screw gives you access to like 75% of the replaceable components (CR2032, RAM, CPU, heatsink etc)
Watching this on my 2014 iPad Air, which still works as well as the day I bought it. The home button is slightly stiff, and the official cover is getting a bit tatty, but eight years of daily use will do that. My 2010 Ford Fiesta is also holding up very well, and I see older cars on the road all the time.
I have an 04 Ford Focus edge. 1.6. Man the working room in the engine bay is phenomenal! Still runs well, just got to do a few bits and it'll be perfect. Brakes, alternator, maybe the battery. Rear bushings. All maintenance items and original parts that's lasted nearly 20 years! I bought it from a chap a few months ago and it had been in his family since new.
There’s planned obsolescence for you - where manufacturers deliberately shorten the lifespan of their products (effectively built to fail) so customers end up becoming repeat customers more often than they should when whatever they buy fails, resulting in more profit for the company at the expense of the consumer.
I'm in the refrigeration industry, home fridges don't last, the inside has aluminum and steel tubing which leaks after 2 or 3 years and it irreparable, forcing the customers to buy a new one, and repairmen don't get work, except for the expensive Bosch and lg fridges, but they're so expensive you could buy 4 fridges in the place of it
The weakest link in the Android update chain currently seem to be the SoC manufacturers like Qualcom and Mediatek. Even if the OEM of the device wants, good luck making a new kernel work as soon as they drop support! It's a freaking mess and that one huge advantage x86 systems still have, those get basically infinite support until it all but desintegrates.
I agree. Even x86 based Android devices can't run PC stuff without extensive hacking to unlock access to both the PC and Android sides of the bootloader.
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I have a note 9, and if I didn’t have a cracked screen that’s very expensive to repair it works great. The battery is a little funky but if it was easier to repair I would do it and use this phone for the foreseeable future. Sucks how the tech industry is with repairs.
I replaced the battery on a note 9. It’s BALLS. But once you get into the phone, as long as you scratch off most of the useless adhesive and leave just enough on to hold the back on, it’ll be more than good enough.
@@remarkable4 isn’t the battery life on a phone that just had a replacement just wicked? I replaced the battery on a 4s too and it lasted almost a week on its first charge.
@@Ethan_23287 Replace that battery and toss an SD card up in that punk! It'll be good as new. Also every few years a backup and factory restore helps a bit. Not much can be done about NAND wear, unfortunately.
It’s almost humorous that you uploaded this today as I had one of my cameras out to shoot today at a barbecue. This camera is from the 50s and still works absolutely fine and it got my friends and I talking about how nothing is made to last anymore. It’s saddening that nothing is made to last as I would love to have my beloved tech and tools to last me until I’m well in my 60s but I doubt they’ll outlive my 20s
This is such a great video! Every point is spot on. We live in such a disposable world nowadays and technology is even worse. We still must keep pushing legislators to expand the abilities for right to repair, as well as being against monopolies in regards to replacement parts being software locked.
For laptops and desktops, I generally find that (for non apple products as they tend to be wild cards), there's less overall hardware based difficulty with replacing hardware for higher end systems, such as the HP Z series, Dell Precision workstations, Dell XPS computers. One of the more cost effective solutions to getting a good computer is buying one of those high end desktops from a few years ago, and just like your Mac pro, they work perfectly fine with most OSes you can put on there. Desktop computers seem to be (one of) the last holdouts of the never ending march of planned obsolescence into the consumer space, it's still happening, but you can still find more ways around it than with laptops or smartphones.
Corporations can't as easily push anti-repair methods onto desktops as there's a precedent users are already used to. Which is likely a major reason why phones and laptops are pushed so hard over desktops by marketing.
It would be great to see companies being made to make their products more sustainable. It might happen in the UK, but our government is busy trying to take us back to the 1970’s, so that might have the same effect!
I wish they were taking us back to the 70s but they are actually trying to continue tony blair policy from the late 90s like mass migration. how did you get that impression???
wtf a car is supossed to work for atleast 30 years, you can even sue if your car breaks unfixable without any mayor acccident on mexico we got a full refund on our 10 years old car when it broke for no reason
For the new gen of consoles ... the SSDs are soldered on the MB ... so within say 5 or more years of daily use you'll find the UI will slow down (and games start to lag a little) and eventually fail to play games or load the UI
Great video. Some time ago I realized that I could buy an iPhone but I never really owned it because of the upgrades that were almost impossible to downgrade again if I was not happy with the result, so I switched brands. Keep up the good work.
I’m from a village and the mentality quite often is to use things while they still can do the job. There always existed people that wanted the latest and shiniest, nothing wrong with that as long you don’t do it to show up and look others over the shoulder. But since the explosion of social media the need for the latest and shiniest has also exploded, so now we have another type of obsolescence, the “product not fit anymore for Instagram/TikTok/etc or to show up in general” obsolescence. And recently we also get the “eco obsolescence”. For example politicians will try really hard to get you to get reed of your old car because it is very polluting. And in fact it is very polluting but so many people use their old dirty cars not that much so the less polluting option would be to allow them to keep them rather than to have to build a whole new car for them to buy it, since pollution associated with construction of a new car is massive… But again, to get the latest shiniest thing seems to be the only possibility… (note: not a rant against EVs, when there are enough of them in the used market in good shape and well priced will get one, but until then will keep my old dirty ICEs).
Was just having this same discussion with both my sons. At my home office I’m on an older Apple ecosystem. A 2012 Mac Mini (Catalina) with an i7, upgraded to 16G of RAM and 256G SSD paired with a 2011 Apple Cinema Thunderbolt 2560x1440 Display, Apple Magic Keyboard and Apple Magic Mouse. My work office setup consists of a 2021 MacBook Pro, Triple 27” Monitors, Logitech for Mac (in white) and Apple Magic Mouse. You would think my office gear would run circles around my 10 year home gear…..it doesn’t. We can run Geekbench, cinebench, etc. and it’ll show the numbers but we just can’t tell the difference. Having the latest gear and updates seems to be regulated where as the older stuff does not. Love my old gear.
@Ibrahim Anser for home gear, 90% of Mac consumers are not video editing or are heavy users. Now for work gear the ratio changes but even then it’s not 90/10 either. For those who are content creators, IT, etc. then having the latest gear is very necessary.
For the home button replacement, you don't even need a home button. You can activate accessive touch (I think that's what it's called) to get a virtual home button.
For example that came my mind right now: TH-cam removed HD icon from 720p. You can not install Office 2019 on Windows 7 but actually it supports it because you can install it via some additional installer. My 5+ years old N9005 started to drain faster through the years and this year I found that Samsung's own system apps were causing it. I removed it and right now, my phone lasts very well like the old times.
Great eyeopener Hugh! I had never really thought to much about it early on (as in 5+ years ago), as I was the classic consumer wanting the latest and greatest all the time!! I did have a Samsung Galaxy S9+ since launch and really had to hold back wanting to upgrade each time Samsung released a new model!! It probably took until the S20 was released, when I realised that I no longer needed to upgrade, because 1. I barely played any graphic intensive games, so didn't need the latest processors, 2. the phone was more than capable of performing all the tasks I needed it to do, and the Apps I used were always being updated anyway, and 3. Samsung were still releasing security updates 4 years on! Even though the the OS was still stuck on Android 11. It wasn't until the battery performance was really starting to annoy me, and when Google released the Pixel 6 with the 'promise' of guaranteed OS upgrades for 3 years, that I finally decided to upgrade to the Pixel 6 when it launched... which, touch wood, I must be one of the few who has not experienced any issues whatsoever!! Of course, the irony being that Samsung also announced a few months later, that they too would provide a guarantee of OS upgrades for an even longer period, but prior to upgrading to the Pixel 6, I was over OneUI and Samsung phones in general, so needed a change of scenery, which I'm glad I did. Thanks for a great video Hugh!
It still is quite an okay device and I think it was flagship at that time. Still while SnapDragon 845 is also better than Helio g99 or some other budget gaming devices like with iTel RS4. It should run graphic games for playable 24-30 fps ( configurable ) if you ever wanted to , Otherwise your phone is perfectly fine. Don't do software upgrade without checking and confirming if it don't slow down or what others experience ,. OH ! you already upgraded to google Pixel 6 ! ( forgot that part ) , that's good keep it well It's quite decent and very OP still . its rival Snapdragon 888 = the flagship of 2020
I'm doing everything I can to convince my friends and relatives to buy laptops with non soldered ram nor SSD, it's not easy as many just want a beautiful laptop or phone, and few understand how harmful to everyone is this new wave of unfixable devices, my worst experience is my Samsung Chromebook pro (m3 4gb 32gb) it has one of the best displays I've ever owned, sadly one day the wifi chip started to do funny things, I've tried everything software related, and it's a hardware issue, as everything is soldered to the laptop and it's a Chromebook, it has became a complete useless device as it's so slim that using an usb wifi dongle it's just dumb
@@fanban2926 that's not the point, the thing is: what happens if your laptop dies one day without warning? You just lose all your files? What if you were doing some really important work and had no backup of the last 24 hours? With removable SSD you just take it out and keep your files
I can 100% relate. I find it startling how so many people just don't care about being able to repair their expensive purchase in the future. It's almost as if they look forward to a small failure after two years because it's the excuse they need to allow themselves to buy the next new shiny thing. When I come in with the voice of reason on reparability, I sound like a Debbie Downer recommending some boring unknown product that doesn't have the marketing appeal NPCs love so much.
Framework Laptop has entered the chat, quite literally, I'm typing this comment on one. very reasonable price for a thin and light laptop that looks like something straight out of an Apple catalog, with premium build quality. It's also fully repairable and upgradable.
It is unbelievable that no phone in the last 10 years has last me more than 2 years, everything is going well and then 2 or 3 problems at the same time make the device practically a brick. Samsung, Motorola, Xiaomi... They all have failed in the 2 year mark. And Iphone is too restricted for my needs... Not sure what to try next, maybe a coin flip.
My S9 is still fine and I use it a stupid amount. The only issue I've got is at 4-5% it just dies, as I said though I've used it a stupid amount. If I had turned fast charging off (or used it intermittently) I imagine it would still be fine.
Its not unbelievable. What is unbelievable is that everyone has the power in their back pocket now, to start revolutions and change the world but they chose to keep their crap jobs, swap cake recipes and watch cat videos!!
A lot of us just need to call, text, email, browse, listen to music, browse… take simple photos. it’s not that much different than 10 years ago so I don’t see why an old iPhone would be completely unusable today when they offered the same features. I have an iPhone SE and people are laughing at me, but at least I have a headphone jack.
You are spot on. When I first got a Samsung Galaxy s20 Ultra at launch I specifically had chosen to not update the phone because although the last updates for phones may not essential be broken at the time the software is mostly abandoned and enters somewhat of a broken state which is unusual. Although I missed out on security updates and people on Reddit were subjective on this thinking I was stupid. My phone maintained running well and I only updated when there was a major update. Apple definitely seems to push harder for people to update their devices and there isn't a workaround to it unlike android phones. I've used several old phones which originally ran poorly but now run great with custom roms. Such as Galaxy Note 3 on android 10, S8+ on a modified os or the Note 9. For those with time and patience old phones run pretty well on custom rom just as if they were new phones. The only setback is the ram sometimes can't handle modern applications data consumption and looks to kill off every app from running in the background quickly. Gone are the days of easily being able to manage your own phone. Though companies are so hard pressed on following Apples ways that over the years I've become less keen on Samsung and might actually switch to iPhone simply due to how poor their practices have been. Don't get me started on exynos controversies. I 100% believe all these companies intentionally make their older devices unusable or apps disfunctional to try push users to update. I always found that around the 2 year mark a phone would have a slight fit near around a new release of a model but maybe that's just me becoming a conspiracy theorist and going insane.
Eres uno de los únicos que recomiendan no comprar y seguir con lo que tenemos ya que en verdad eso aun funciona y no hay necesidad de cambiarlo, té admiro por eso y gracias por dar este mensaje por el bien del planeta
When I updated my old iphone SE to IOS 14, and it started to use up its newly replaced battery in an hour. The tech support "genius" said I was imagining it. Horrible company.
@@syxepop Yeah, never should have installed 14.0. But I've installed the later updates for 14 and it's only helped a little. The phone still gets hot and discharges rapidly.
You should only update to the lowest version needed by your apps as and when required. Apple make this dificult tho so the only way to do this is to download the latest signed image of iOS to your computer and keep it for when YOU need to update through iTunes / 3U. Apple only provide signed ROMs for the last few versions tho so you have to keep them ready in advance or you'll be forced to update to the latest version.
I agree 100% it's absurd that this is going on. I try to fix all devices that we're going to be thrown away or already was. Like the mid 2009 MacBook pro I found in the dump. It had minor corrosion due to water damage, I removed that and the only thing that ended up being bad was the drives which was easily replaced and it runs like new. Nowadays you can't even replace the drives on most devices
Most points being valid, I want to hint at a more pervasive kind of planned obscolence today. Thing is, it doesn't have to be intentional. It suffices to have the general culture of fast product cycle and turbo consumerism, then the whole thing fuels itself. In that case you might say that society as a whole has the intention to do PO, but individual producers or consumers contribute to it well enough by just being part of the model. They don't need to be conscious or intent on it individually.
Great video as always Hugh! I still use my mid 2012 non retina MacBook pro to this day, it's now nearly 10 years (!) old. And after a battery and SSD replacement, which was super easy, it still runs like a champ. I bare with you that the newer MacBooks can't last 10 years.
Yes yes yes you've really hit on every point about the ridiculousness of these huge greedy tech companies and the scandalous and wasteful nature of forcing perfectly working tech to become unusable before the end of its life. It makes me so furious.
totally agree. also with phones and laptops getting bigger for functionality they can definitely make them repairable. let customers choose; built to last with modularity or sleek and slim but difficult to repair. i know which i would choose
I'm using a 5 year old Samsung Galaxy S8. The screen has been cracked for 6 months, but everything still works. The battery is still acceptable, but I have noticed a decrease in capacity (mostly from using the phone while charging). Not to take away anything from your completely valid message, but I don't believe every device is affected by planned obsolescence. 🍎 is the worst offender though.
🍎 is worst offender and yet my iPhone from 2015 is still getting full software support in 2022 whereas your phone from 2017 hasn't gotten official software support in years lol
You’re using a very insecure phone though. Planned obsolescence also applies to software and your phone is more than capable to receive either security updates or newer versions of Android but Samsung will no longer update it because they don’t want to. They already consider that you already got your moneys worth.
@@Weildren The S8 has good custom rom support - no need to stick to original OS it came with - in fact my S7 is still in very good condition and using the very latest security patch June 2022 using lineageOS and it gets updated every couple of weeks. Something apple does not.
All these happened because tech companies started striving to be the 'richest company in the world', with more money stashed, than they can ever spend in a lifetime. I miss the time when tech companies were modest, and not filled with greed and unbelivably astronomical profit targets.
@Jaquan Kelsor Apple has gotten worse since he died so you can't blame him. Blame high frequency traders and over inflated stocks, companies have to make as much money for their investors as they can and if they don't then they get sued. The law puts investors first and customers last, and that's the problem.
Company also have workers, and this workers need to eat, if company like apple make their devices last for like 10 years they can’t barely make profit and the workers, investors etc cant have their money, then they will be bankrupt, its actually more complicated than that, like supply chain also one of the biggest effect, also technogical advancement will stuck, look what phone and computers has become in the last decade, its thanks to that companies policies…
@@RivandaBakhtiar It's both, but I'd argue that publicly-listed companies still primarily try to make revenue for their shareholders, rather than their workers. I'd wager that in most cases, publicly-listed companies try to pay workers the minimum they can get away with (subject to laws and supply/demand for the talent they require), and pay shareholders and executives the most they can get away with (before they have no money left over). I think things would be less bad if we didn't have the share market and capitalists capitalising on capitalists capitalising on capitalists (e.g. high frequency traders), but there would definitely still be some of these problems.
Kinda like how Oculus released a bootloader unlock for the Oculus Go after discontinuing it thanks to John Carmack's influence. That was a really cool thing they did that I wish other companies would follow.
True. Especially with smartphones. Let the age of perfectly fine devices becoming ewaste go away for good and make sure it never has the slightest chance to ever return.
just two corrections: "Most of todays laptops came with soldered down RAM and SSDs" - only apple ond bottom of the barrel laptops "SSD can degrade" - SSD is a wear element, it is not a question if it will degrade, it will degrade Soldering down and programming wear elements is the worst apple has done so far, imagine a car with ireplaccible brakes.
Same with Sony’s PS5, the primary M.2 SSD witch the OS runs from is soldered down. I can’t believe Sony took this route, the amount of write and read and delete of games through its lifetime it’s durability is questionable.
@Repair Wins , Sony once was the best company in terms of repairability, they were even giving us the schematichs and everything we needed to fix anything. But then they turned to worse, using poprietery elements unavilible to the public, and then these terrible cost cutting messures.
You speak the truth. Before my second stroke, which effected my memory, my TH-cam channel covered a lot of the bootloader unlocking and custom firmware flashing, with reviews on those custom roms. It's amazing how many custom roms are out there for most devices. I even developed my own custom ROM, for the Samsung Galaxy Tab A 9 inch, that was hosted on XDA. Now my channel is on anything tech but not custom Android OS flashing. Phone companies want you to purchase new phones and this is how they do it.
I own an iPad Pro from 2017. It still allows me to draw on A3 size, 300dpi res canvas with dozens of active layers, without slowing down on its 120Hz display. That's 6 years from launch date, and 4 years since I bought it. But I bought iPad Pro M1 anyway, because of marketing and hype. I cant be the only one. We deserve to be screwed over like a looseholed ho because we allow ourselves to get played by companies into buying things we WANT, not what we NEED.
I really wish more people really started thinking about these things. The worst part is that its not just limited to electronics. Even clothing nowadays is made around the same model.
This kind of stuff bugs me as well, so whenever I go to my local recycle/waste drop off here in the US, I always check the e-waste bin to see what I can salvage, and just today when dumping some old carpet, I was able to save a good working Asus K53E laptop that I installed Solus Linux w/Budgie DE on, and it runs great, but I did upgrade the ram to 8GB, and put in a newer WiFi card that supports 5Ghz, and BT4.1 I had in my spare parts collection. I also have a 120GB SSD on the way to replace the slow aging HDD, and will be getting a new battery was well, and all of it so far has been easy to work on thankfully, and thankfully I had an old Compaq laptop charger that fits, and powers/charges it fine, and I'm using it to type this comment. I was also able to save a mostly in order(one damaged usb port, and a small crack on the bottom of the case where it was tossed in the e-waste bin) Lenovo Thinkpad T400 with it's OG charger that's going to need a bit more of a teardown to upgrade the ram, and HDD, plus a battery to make it more usable again, but even with the 4GB RAM, the 120GB HDD, and 2.1Ghz Intel core 2 Duo, it still runs Solus/w Budge DE just fine, and even YT is watchable at 480p without dropping too many frames. lastly I'm going to call out one more company for making computers obsolete before their time, and that's Microsoft with their requirements for Windows 11 needing TPM 2.0, and UEFI secure boot, when many older systems can run a good Linux distro like Solus, Linux Mint, MX Linux, Manjaro, etc.. just fine, and are just as secure if not more so, and will get most people's daily task done just fine, as I've even edited 720p, and 1080p footage from my phone for a work project on a AMD Athlon II X4 system with 8GB DDRII RAM, an XFX AMD R7 240 2GB GPU, 120GB boot SSD, and 1TB HDD for storage on Solus Linux using Kdenlive as my video editor of choice. was it the fastest? No but it got job done, and on time to my boss who needed it for the grant we were applying for, for our non profit.
I got a good condition Lenovo ThinkPad T520 without hard drive and battery, I mean, why would someone throw that out if it's working? The only thing of note here is that the GPU doesn't fully support Win10.
@@thespkrYT That's where Linux comes, and I was checking the Solus repos the other day digging through just about every piece of software, and noticed they have driver support for stuff as old as 3DFX graphics cards which is just wild!! My biggest headaches with Linux in general far as hardware support has been bluetooth, some WiFi chipsets, some oddball sound cards, printer companies that don't want to be Linux friendly(it's why I use Brother laser printers, as they are well supported, and the toner is cheap if you by generic) getting the fans to spin at full speed on Macbooks, and Macbook pros so they don't cook themselves to death, and Nvidia cards, but that's slowly changing for the better, but for now I avoid them if I can.
@@CommodoreFan64 yeah Linux would be my last option for any laptop past 2025 if Windows 11 won't support it or maybe even ChromeOS Flex. I also got a Dell Vostro 2520 from a neighbor but that's very similar to the T520 other than it has an i3 instead of the T520 which has an i5. My Dell Latitude D630 with the slow but not gonna fail NVIDIA GPU is going to be 18 years old when support for Windows 10 ends and yes, it's not the fastest but still. My main laptop is a 2015 MacBook Pro which will get up to 9 years if the 3 versions before the latest release, now with Ventura Catalina will go is to be believed.
My current laptop is an HP 15-bs134wm made in November 2019 that came from an ewaste bin, upgraded the ram to 8gb and replaced the HDD with an SSD and it performs pretty well.
I bought a Motorola phone in Dec 2020, it was a new model then. Looks like security updates stopped last December ('22). The only options are: keep a device becoming increasingly insecure, or buy a whole new phone. Even industry best (read most expensive) only have 5 years of updates from launch. That means if you buy just before a new model is released, you have just 4 years of updates!
I truly tip my hat to you sir. you actually practice what you preach and for that I have respect for you. Tech youtubers are constantly telling us about how their pissed of at apple for the things they do and whatnot but continue to by their devices for “content” purposes. I dont think owning 5 of the latest iphones are necessary for a video. they consistently buy and buy these companies tech and then are disappointed about them doing something worse the next year.
Finally someone like you, Mr. Hugh, tells the whole truth about the unscrupulous commercial traps of the companies that defraud us due to dishonesty and excessive ambition😡🤬
Another one I noticed is deliberately restricting features to pay more for the same. Here's an example: My Galaxy Tab A 10 inch (2019) has 4g carrier aggregation (4G+) support with most networks. Whereas a Galaxy M30 from the same year with same processor, does not support 4G+
My 3 year old All in one pc was never fast when I got it new as it came with a hard drive. I was gonna swap it out for a 2TB SATA SSD if I didn’t discover that it also had an NVME slot on the board. It’s sad to see that manufacturers are like, “oh no you can’t use that forever, we have to take your money every once in a while”. Now I’m a happy owner of a pc from 2017 which I upgraded recently, and oh boy, it has never been snappy as hell, whilst still being able to store a ton of crap
You are on the money Hugh , Companies have become very good at sucking in the consumer to be on this merry go round of buying new tech long before it should be replaced .
I am watching this on my 2018 OnePlus 6, it's still going strong and no signs of obsolescence. Everyone around me buying €1000+ phones EVERY YEAR. And they keep asking me why I am using a 5 year old phone now, I should be sending this video to them. And if you ask them to do something, it's always 'no money right now' but they spend last 4 years buying €4000+ on phones just to be fancy and I walking around with a €499 phone back then.
so some people spend 7k cad dollars a year for phones but my pc from 2020 is 500 cad dollars and it still works good job not buying the new phone eacth year and my 3ds from 2012 still works fine and i puked on it once
Excellent video Hugh and so so true. I haven't touched an Apple product for years and really don't intend to. I run Linux on my pc and everything works. Like you I buy damaged Android phones and repair them, use them for a year or so rinse and repeat.
Lovely seeing the Dodge again, reminded me of that beautiful restoration video of young Hugh with his dad. It is heartening to see your enthusiasm for consumer rights, Australia were once very progressive in this area. Hopefully now we can be again. If you are a reader, you may be interested in the writing and work of Ralph Nader. Go well Hugh.
they enforce you to download the latest update OS for the "security boost" while they convince you that security updates are a must have which is a real thing or maybe fixing bugs. download the update and then the device starts lagging and filling up the memory faster than ever just to make you buy a new device. its much more scary when we look even at the apps we have and its updates that do nothing but adding more craps to the storage and fill it. at the long run making devices industry will have a huge impact due to the fast production and the abondoned devices which are still working but not usable specially smartphones market.
Hey Hugh you are a legend mate love the vid style with you presenting in this style. This is true of the tech industry but also true across the board in all industries especially clothing, it wears out much faster due to fast fashion. I personally use an iPhone X and have a MacBook Pro that is over ten years old and prefer to keep older tech up and running through maintenance and upgrades instead of buying new
the phone I'm writing this comment on is an LG V30+ from 2017. It works wonderfully almost 5 years later! Because of antenna problems, I have another phone: a Samsung Galaxy A02s. I purchased it September last year, and it's a mess. The screen is incredibly buggy, sometimes not responding to touches or responding to multiple touches when no such touch happened. It's a hassle to do anything on the Samsung phone that's not even a year old, but it's a breeze to do things on the near 5 years old LG
I just replaced my old Galaxy S6 Edge for an S22 Ultra, just because the old one had a locked bootloader (ugh, Verizon) and I couldn't root it for a newer version. That 7 year old device was still plenty quick, just didn't get the software support it deserved. The new phone is definitely faster, though, and the battery certainly lasts much longer.
"As a service" was the supposed response for corporations to keep earning money if they were to be forced to make or let their products last longer. The reality is, as always, that they keep forcing their products to fail AND you are totally prisoner of their software. So, the only "solution" is the only one they know: forcing them by law and imposing penalties that cost them money. Is the only way they will listen, and we could fight this e-waste nightmare.
I was a bit pissed earlier when having fallen down some stairs and cracked my p10+ screen the local service centre said screen is not made anymore phone is obsolete, heck I bought it new 3 years ago and would normally reckon on getting at least 2x that from a device. Luckily there are still 3rd party screens available.
Hey Hugh Jeffreys! I just wanted to say that I am absolutely enjoying this new content, I have been here since around 2019 I think and I support this new content and absoulutely love it, I do also hope other people enjoy it just as much as I do because it is very entertaning to watch. Thanks for the awesome content and keep it up! -Troy
SEVEN YEARS FOR A CAR?!?!?! I still think of a 5 year old car as practically brand new. If it has a screen in it, I see that as a futuristic luxury. Who can afford a new car every 7 years anyway?
The envy every time you flex one of the Blackberrys! I gotta give it to Android devs for keeping it so open - I recently purchased the Sony Walkman NWA-105, which runs Android 9 and the fact I can install all the streaming services I want directly from the play store is a dream come true.
Right-to-repair friendly electronics still exist today. My OnePlus One from 2014 has an unlocked bootloader, and so it is still my main phone and can still run the latest version of LineageOS (fairly smoothly too!) to this day. My self-built Linux desktop uses a motherboard, CPUs, and RAM from around 2011, an RX 480 GPU from 2016, and a lot of the other parts are from 2016 when I originally built it too. I also use monitors from around 2006 that still run perfectly. OnePlus isn't so good about batteries, but Fairphone, Purism, and Pinephone are and also all support unlocked bootloaders. My headphones, AudioTechnica ATH-M50X's, I bought to last a long time around 2017 and indeed are still working to listen to this video after 5 years. And I have many other examples as well, some newer, some older. I tend to either buy used, so that if it was badly-made and failure-prone it would have already failed, or buy really really expensive nice things that are designed to be durable. Some of my newer things like my HHKB Pro2 (bought in 2019) haven't stood the test of time yet as I only bought them recently but I am pretty confident that most of them will. Better options often exist, but one does need to do some research to avoid the vast majority of products which are exploitive and planned obsolete. Though, some categories are harder to find consumer-friendly options than in others and even things that are decent like my Vive 3.0 trackers really aren't as consumer-friendly as they could be IMO. I'm probably going to start building a lot of my own electronics soon as even when things could probably last at least 5 years, I could probably get something much better by actually designing it to be easily repaired from the ground up.
Great! I still daily drive a GTX 750 Ti from 2014 on my Ryzen desktop. I have a Galaxy Note 3 from 2014 that is alive and kicking on Android 12L thanks to custom ROMs as a side phone. Swappable batteries must return, I'd rather have that than waterproof phones thank you very much. As for keyboards, I have a Redragon K630 running QMK firmware, it's great and the switches are hotswappable so the board is fully modular.
i’m disappointed how glitchy my iphone SE 2020 has already gotten even after a fresh install of ios. Having the same soc as the 11 pro which isn’t even old is pretty scary that it is already declining. it really seems like we are going backwards in someways. unless i have a specific important use for a piece of tech, i prefer to use it until it completely is nonfictional. also he’s right about these companies making products in the past actually built to last. i still use some of my 10-20 year old ipods everyday and they’re amazing. if these companies really wanted to make devices last 10+ years, they easily could… also it’s ridiculous now with the 3G/Non-Volte shutdown in the usa how many good devices are gonna end up e waste… it’s so sad honestly. i’d choose the environment over technological “progress” any day
Kudos to you for offering a compelling video. I've long believed that the Fruit Company (not a blackberry) has planned obsolescence in Fruitphones ever since they released them - that is, the first generation was released when the second generation was developed. And then the Fruit company renders perfectly good hardware as obsolete when their operating system is updated. Yes, Windows 11 has rendered many PC's obsolete, but this is an exception to their rule. Heck, even on Windows 11 I can run programs that ran on Windows XP that I like and don't need to update. I acquired one 2012 Macbook Pro 13 inch because it was upgradeable and I've maxed it out with 16 gb of ram and double ssd drives. The computer is an amazingly good computer that runs Monterrey. All told I probably have $350 in the computer after all of the purchase costs. I then added a stand that allows the computer to stand on its end and stores behind a 27 inch monitor - now I have an iMac that runs amazing and interestingly the computer is using the Dell monitor's 1080p settings instead of the onboard screen. Beautiful display. I liked it so much I bought another one (slightly cheaper) and upgraded it to use as a test computer. Nothing beats the assembly and hardware quality even if Fruit OS seems ass backwards on how it does things. Keep telling the truth! Great video!
What hurts as much as one's pocketbook is the thought that most people throw obsolete electronic in the garbage. Infrastructure for recovering expensive metals and rare earth materials is lacking, and its a shame to see these materials go to waste. That's a cool car by the way.
OK, to break down some of what ya got right and what ya got wrong: Lightbulbs of the filament types had a burn-time limit, ya either had a dimly lit room with a bulb that lasts 50 years or a reasonably bright room that the bulb lasts a year or two (Unless you used a dimmer so the bulb wouldn't be stressed by such a sudden thermal cycle and because the bulb can be dimmed giving it a longer burn time). The "bulb cartel" actually was about having a reasonable compromise of usable light versus usable life, it was a one or the other ordeal.... Otherwise LED bulbs wouldn't be allowed to last longer and would have an IC to purposely "blow the bulb", LEDs last over 10 years (for my oldest bulb) when driven sensibly and yet puts out more light than incandescent bulbs of the same "burn time", instead puts out light of a 100W incandescent whilst lasting longer than the life of 10 of those bulbs. Apple missing a feature conveniently when a new tech comes out is planned obsolescence, reducing the speed of the phone intentionally is also obsolescence as if they were doing that to save the battery, they'd put an option in firmware that'd ask the user, "This phone is getting old a bit, do you want to Keep going fast or prolong the usable life of your phone?", which I'm glad happens now. As for longer boot times, etc.... Have you seen Microsoft Windows? If I set a modern CPU to the same equivalent (instruction) speed as a Core2Duo, Windows 10 performs like it's on a Core2Duo, that's not planned obsolescence, that's bloat and says a lot for Apple's IOS becoming bloated. Samsung doing benchmarking blags for thermal constraints reasoning is pretty much a Lenovo like situation, I found that the same CPU in my now disused Lenovo Yoga 12 (The metal bodied one, can't remember exact submodel number) when ran in a Dell Lattitude laptop with a smaller heatsink and roughly the same fan speed, not only runs cooler, is more responsive, overheats less and all round usable, yet benchmarking the Lenovo gives the same scores. The fact Samsung though being active in figuring out when it's being benchmarked is the dishonest part, however, bad thermal design (Including bad ACPI thermal design and poor heat management) is common across many devices, so I'd expect the phone to want to throttle back after a while just like the Lenovo, moreso because the thermal mass of a phone is smaller than a laptop.. Android having backwards compatibility is the compromise of many phones not having updates at all and thus by forcing "latest firmware" would make Android go the way of the Windows Phone... A lot of this can be solved if it was mandated that all phones have a user bridgeable solder-pad on the mainboard marked "UEFI mode" and an SD-CARD boot requirement so as to allow people to dump any ARM based OS on there as though it was just a normal PC with standardized display and touch API (so that the minimum of a usable Linux desktop can work across phones), then it's up to the end user to figure out getting the rest of the hardware working, this would allow reuse of older hardware for many other purposes and thus reduction of landfill. Anti repair is the biggest issue, many of the above goes into that. Also, soldering don't prevent repair, it's just a skill-set away from repair (Queue Louis Rossmann waving his hot-air soldering tool at you), it's the locking down of these chips that causes issues. Printers, these days, many of the prosumer printers by HP will now allow most ink types, they won't allow HP branded ink for printer A to work in printer B even with the same shape cartridge, however, if the chip is for "aftermarket" it'll allow printing and it'll warn 3 types of warning: "NOTICE: Genuine inks have been installed!" "NOTICE: Used genuine inks have been installed!" "NOTICE: Aftermarket inks have been installed! Incorrect ink types may clog your printer."
I love how all these companies virtue signal when it comes to the environment but keep filling up landfills with their devices.
Our biggest polluters are those pointing the finger. It’s always been major corporations especially out of Japan and China. Air Quality so poor you have to wear a face mask everywhere
It's called 'greenwashing'.
Exactly!
@@MrLordZip Which is just a part of global brainwashing. Greedom at its peak.
I usually don't use the word "virtue signal" because of how political sheeples have ruined the word by calling anything "virtue signalling".
However, in this case, I completely agree because it is just a straigh up lie.
*I forgot to talk about Windows 11 system requirements in the video.* Essentially they are forcing people with computer only a few years old to replace them if they want to run Windows 11. My own 2017 Dell laptop's Intel Core i7 "isn't supported" by Windows 11. I am sure it would run fine if I forced the laptop to update using some work arounds.
And LG's G4, with cursed software and bootloops.
@CW good
try changing the default browser on windows 11
sheesh
@@joeblow5037 the default browser is always Microsoft edge
@@pays-bas7634 I know...but where as it used to be a one click affair to change default browsers.......now you have to go through and change the file association with all the extensions (in 11)
I have the Same problem as Hugh Jeffrey’s has, my intel core i7 Lenovo Y520 from 2017 is also not getting windows 11, but I bet it’s capable enough to run it and that Microsoft wants me to get a new computer. Just dumb😒
Planned obsolescence is always the lamest excuse from manufacturers. This stuff ain't cheap, just made cheap
So true.
Best comment in the thread.
True still using my Samsung galaxy J7 got a new power button because phone wouldn't turn on. It's working nice for a phone I got in 2015.
Can't get more true than this.😔
so true
I've been saying these exact same things for over a decade.
In 2014 or so I got a job repairing phones and was immediately baffled by the design and problems of the current iPhones (4,5, 6, 6S and +) and was randomly interviewed by a national radio channel here in Sweden, just a couple of weeks in and was asked if I had any question I would've wanted answered on the show and I asked "Why are Apple so anti-consumer?" and they giggled a little and moved on. I tried tuning in to the show to find out if it would be aired and answered, but I'm not sure I caught the episode and if I did, I never heard the question aired.
I went on to work for another company doing third party repairs and became quite successful at it and stayed in the business for about 3 or 4 years. But after they started releasing the iPhone X's and XR's, I just couldn't take it anymore.
I honestly believe Apple is one of the worst companies on this planet and shouldn't be allowed to operate under this current model they employ, it's just plain and simple anti-consumerism and gluttonous greed in excess. It's almost as if they are actively trying to frustrate their customers and destroy the planet whilst doing so.
I also recently saw the new Macbook model which had a heatsink and a fan but no heatpipe inbetween to connect them so the heat could actually be displaced outside of the chassi.
It has to be an active choice to do so, there's no way in hell their entire team of engineers, testers, quality control and designers would ALL just not see such a massive flaw. I mean any hobbyist or even layman would with a 9/10 accuracy, tell that this was a faulty design which did nothing at all. The fan is just a prop piece that spins and makes noise, it's incredible how stupid they think people are to actually buy this garbage.
Boycott Apple, for life. You have to do it to save the market from joining their practice. We won't see much legal actions taken against this practice as corporations lobby for governments and thus basically own the candidates and/or elected people in position, since they sponsored their campaign(s).
The world is sick and corrupt and we are only being led to believe we have a choice, it's all a mere illusion.
Consumers are more or less cattle for the rich, they toss us a small bone which we pay a small fortune for (GPU prices 2020-2022, don't try to blame the plandemic it was all part of the plan) which then doesn't even last for a year or more in many cases. EVGA 3090 FTW2 + New World = dead card, hmmm what a coincidence huh? Not fking buying it.
Don't believe in coincidence.
Hugs to you from California. I'm a novice cell phone user but I knew Apple phones were garbage. I experienced issues with battery, slow-down issues & stuff from i4 to i8 so I threw out all apple devices. Have had somewhat peaceful interaction with Android since 2018
/19. All my family members are attached to apple by their hips. I've always been a cut above the crowd. I still use my Pfaff from 35 years ago, runs like a champ. Got a more updated one to do fancy stuff. Keeping it till it dies or I go. Apple should be sued in every country.
Louis Rossman has been saying the same thing for years
@@HaggardPillockHD That's how I found his channel. Great stuff.
For all his complaining, it is obvious this YT-er is a massive Apple fanboy.
Funnily enough, I take his advice more seriously than he does himself, since I've never bought an Apple product, and never will.
I have never owned an iPhone or a Mac. I have stuck it out with Sony Ericsson and Sony Xperia phones since 2002. And Dell laptops. Apple will lose money if there are more users like me.
My 80 year old aunt who can barely operate a dumb phone, let alone a smartphone, has been saying this for decades:
"Stuff used to last, and nowadays it's intentionally made to to break, because they want you to throw things out asap and run to the store and buy them all over again.
It really is true. A heating iron from the 80s would last longer than a heating iron nowadays. Some stuff coincidentally breaks or defects after their (factory) warranty expires.
You can thank Chinese dependency for that
@The General they could make good stuff no matter where they made it, if they wanted to, but they don't.
But I 100% agree that dependency on China for manufacturing is a massive problem. It's a hostile regime that just keeps getting worse, and the west is financing it by "investing" billions into it.
@@rin55 They could indeed make good stuff if they wanted to, but at that point what’s the point of using China? Companies use China for manufacturing because it’s dirt cheap and basically slave labor. Terrible working conditions, 100 hour weeks, and afew dollars an hour if that. On top of that China commits crimes against humanity on the daily such as having literal concentration camps full of Uyghur people along with just making citizens disappear when they speak out. The west will do nothing about these crimes against humanity because “MuH pRoFiT”.
@The General Precisely! There would be no point in making everything in China if it cost the same as back at home. Greed will be the end of this planet soon.
And the entire situation in China is beyond awful in every way.
And then we hear such buzzwords as “sustainable” and “green” from corporations. Overwhelming hypocrisy is pretty much the cause of the sorry state the world is today.
More are waking up and fighting back. Corporate fascism is our biggest enemy as was Germany in the 1940s.
This is not hypocrisy. They're lying! They lie to hundreds of thousands of people, so they could sell more phones and force more people into buying them in order to make more money, because they are very greedy and they lack conscience.
"Overwhelming hypocrisy" unrionically i believe this to be the major culprit of the pathetic state of the world we live in today. Very accurate assessment.
@@thomasb282 and to think that others consider it to be "higher state of consciousness politics", while might be true in theory, practically speaking it is just a different strategy to gain money and power for low consciousness individuals.
Hypocrisy? You're sure it's not greed and systems built to feed the greedy rather than people?
"In 1929 Kettering distilled his advice into an article, written for Nation's Business, with a memorable title: "Keep the Consumer Dissatisfied." "If everyone were satisfied," he explained, "no one would buy the new thing." - Peter Norton, Autonorama.
That's true. If planned obsolescence is not exist, all people will rather stay with the old hardware and OS instead of buying a new one
I hate it when you try to downgrade ios or mac os apple says its "too old or incompatible". Its obvious that apple just programmed software downgrades to be disabled, to prevent people from keeping their devices fast.
Learned this the hard way by making software too good. I literally fired myself out of my job.
@@monad_tcp RIP but ur a chad
That seem to speak to life as a whole
Never be satisfied away want more, more, more 🤡
I repair phones for a living and i am genuinely surprised how many people still use iphone 6/6s. It is pretty disgusting how companies are doing this crap and getting away with this
When people come into my shop to repair a 6-7 I lowkey think "damn I could never use that" but then again I don't put myself in their place maybe they don't have the money to spend like I do.
@@GeoJad same. But im surprised they still use it no problem! Most repairs for 6/6s are battery but still works fine for them.
Yep!! Even my dad still uses a 6S!
@@kbhasi they are actually good phones (apart from at the start with bendgate) customers ask me what to upgrade to? I say what ever you do atm you dont need to upgrade
I think i could live with an I7 imo. It might be painful, but it's IOS so that's the biggest pain in the ass anyway
I used to be a church organ builder years ago. We was still tuning instruments that were made in the 18th and 19th century. The more modern instruments use solid state circuit boards with electrical magnets. There is still no reason why they can't be working a hundred years from now with good care and attention.
The really old organs that we still have use wooden tracker wires. The older instruments, although they have parts that you can't just buy from a shop, I could still make new components.
The sad part is that, a person who's talking about the truth of a whole industry like you, never gets that kind of love and support and even positive feedbacks, I feel so miserable being born in a world where money is considered almost every thing
instead of feeling miserable because they do this, feel good for repairing and upcycling instead and stick OEMs the middle finger, you'll feel satisfaction isntead.
Just use tiktok and don’t worry about any serious topics like 95% of humanity
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One thing that really gets to me is when they show the phone's specs such as the processor like it's the future and will never be outperformed only to kill it off after a couple of years. Even with samsung, after the S8 I found the phones still running fine but never recieving any major updates. besides the security updates they basically just kill the perfectly running phone off the line and move on.
The way android is built, you're better off without the updates slowing it down (as he demonstrates at 2:30 actually)
@@ventilate4267 I wonder if security updates slows down the phone like the Specter and Meltdown vulnerabilities costed Intel CPUs some performance. But if so, I wonder if security updates prevent the average user from messing up their phone. I'm still on Android 8 and I don't think there are any problems.
after the s9 they started just dropping features, they followed apple in a few ways - by removing the headphone jack and expandable storage - and did other things like lowering the screen resolution (which I sort of get) and putting the fingerprint scanner under the screen (pointlessly expensive and with less utility than a rear mounted scanner) or using a hole punch display (that's ugly af imo) and has less useable space.
s8 and s9 are perfect to me though. s9 has the exclusive feature of the dual aperture which I really like as well
@@rolls_8798 Don't forget they are also starting to remove power adapters from their phone box so you need to purchase a charger separately
@@sihamhamda47 yeah, and most second hand sellers don't include them now either because they need it themselves. it's a bit shit
Customer:"Hi my fuel pump is not working I want to buy a new one."
Company:"Sorry you need to buy a new engine."
Imagine this being our future.
It is. Just look at tesla and BMW
Well considering the future is electric cars, it'll be more like the iphone situation. "My battery doesn't hold a charge like it used to!"
"We can swap your battery, it's a 13 hour job $30k parts and labor, or you can get a new car for only $29k"
Tesla has been doing this, some Tesla Model S cars (iirc 2014) had an issue with the battery management board which they tried sweeping under the rug with a software update until at least warranty runs out. The workaround in the update isn't perfect though, so if customers want a fix for this Tesla tells them they're gonna have to shell out for a whole new battery. They have been backtracing on this lately and actually replacing the batteries under warranty, but since when is replacing a $25k battery acceptable, just for a defective board?
nissan did that with there cvt's. they COULD be fixed. But cheaper for the company to sell a new transmission for 4 to 6k then sell the old broken one as rebuilt. They even replaced the broken ones with rebuilt ones and had them brake not long after the replacement... huge lawsuit ensued but there still a lot of complaints about them being unreliable. Absolutely degusting practice
JustRolledIn depicts EVERY item used in America, and then being forced to be taken for "recycling" by subjugated countries. The tech industry is the only REMOTELY ethical one, while you get the equivalent of a new car every time you change oil, for a price that is adjusted for the WORTH you bring into the economy. The ongoing recession is because of how DEMOCRACY handles oil production, and you call your sons heroes for enabling it.
Right for repair is virtue signaling on changing the oil, but then letting entire cars pile up as rust heaps anyway because you WANT a new phone every 5 years if not 2. You are the person demanding "just let me change my oil myself" and most of the time just WON'T. Because jsut getting american pork pie munchers get off their butt and DELIVER that spare part, is excused to give a lifestyle to that delivery boy that surpasses building an entire new item, that is WHY the spare part costs as much as the whole thing brand new. BECAUSE YOU AMERICANS GET THAT MONEY.
Whoever decided to have no buttons to control the brightness of a display forcing you to do it in OS should have been severely beaten in the meeting when they suggested it .
Same guy that decided to not put an off button on the AirPods max lmao
I agree. I like having monitor controls within the OS, but only if it's in addition to physical controls.
Buttons add to the manufacturing cost. On-screen controls are free.
This is also why a lot of little gadgets are controlled by app over bluetooth, even when there's really no need for it - a bluetooth chip costs less than a screen and physical controls.
It's apple. That person has probably received a bonus for that idea.
It's only dumb if they drop support for it
A good way to combat planned obsolescence: NEVER buy a phone without an UNLOCKABLE BOOTLOADER.
@brayden stark it's locked by default, and for checking you can read a guide for your device
@brayden stark yes, and enable OEM unlock. you also need to follow the additional steps your phone manufacturer usually adds to the process.
Only Company I know that doesn't want anyone to unlock their phones is Huawei, You need to teardown the phone and do some paid witchery to get it to unlock.
Most of the hardware in an unlockable bootloader phone is still proprietary, meaning if the OEM or the vendor drops support, the community made upcoming versions of a software would still rely on/use the same outdated code for the proprietary components.
Xiaomi
My dad keeps on saying the same thing. My dad likes collecting stereo systems and most of his collection consists of Korean made stereo systems around 20-30 years old from LG which still work well today. My grandpa also owns a Hyundai Excel from the 90s that still runs well today and only had its wheels replaced. His Korean-made fractor for his small farm was around before I was born (2001) so its around the 90s and it still works fine. I hope this gets better.
I'm glad I came across your channel. You've really opened my eyes with these repairability, sustainability and reducing e-waste. I used to buy new phone every 1.5 to 2 years. After watching your videos and the getting to know the practices of these businesses and the reduced wastage aspect, I'm now committed to reducing e-waste as much as possible from my end and continue to use products for longer time.
When do uou upgrade now
Buy the iPhone 14 Pro or Pro Max and have them for like 4,5 years until software support stops. My dad has an iPhone 7 since 2017 and it's working perfectly fine.
Amizing.
For someone with a username of lifehacker, I find it amusing that you needed this channel with its basic information that everyone has known for decades.
Learn how to fix things - saves you money and keeps garbage out of the landfill.
@@mihailoaleksic3330 Using an iPad mini from 2012. Battery is great as well, the wear level is around 17%, which is not bad at all, except for the iOS 9, which sucks.
I work for an IT life cycle company and we're literally drowning in assets that are nothing but wasteful. It's disappointing to see how much is just recycled rather than resold or refurbished.
I'm usually one for free market capitalism, and for little gov. oversite as possible, but I think this is one area where the companies need to be forced to make their products easier to work on by the end consumer, like easy to replace batteries, and longer software updates, then I don't think as much would be sent to the recycle, but at least it's getting recycled, and not just thrown in the normal waste streams.
Because people want to use the latest and greatest phone with a good design. They don't want to use some thicc boi phone from 2010s
@@traviswalker8933 I don't want the newest thing. I'm one of the people.
Yep! I remember an employee of one posting on Twitter about a major multinational company (on the scale of lobbying in ways that benefit their executives but not ordinary people) being lazy at IT management and not removing their devices from their MDM accounts.
@@kbhasi 100% this. I often wonder how these assets arrive under MDM management and what they expect us to do with them. Wasteful.
There are 15 year old computers that run the latest operating system just fine. I’ve noticed that new laptops have really low specs compared to new laptops 10 or 12 years ago. Probably planned obsolescence because they don’t want to ship computers with good specs or upgradeable ram storage or CPU’s like they used to because they don’t want you keeping your computer they want you to throw it out and get a new one asap. People should resist this when possible.
Soldered CPUs are horrible, I've stumbled upon too many otherwise good laptops which are extremely bottlenecked by the shitty non-replaceable low-end CPU. What's the point of putting an SSD in and bumping up the RAM if you're still stuck with a dual-core Celeron or some crappy AMD APU? Soldered RAM and SSDs are even worse.
Old Intel core 2 duo or 1st gen I series processorsDell laptops from 2007-2012 agree with outerspaces
Yup I have tried that with my HP Compaq V3000 from 2006, albeit with major upgrades. It can be done to work with Windows 11, although not the most desirable and is barely any better than iphone 4s on IOS9. But yeah the point is we should be given more options to make the most out of the devices rather than average people in University thinking their macbook lasts at most 5 years because the SSD wears out and becomes unreliable and irreplaceable.
@@kztech1319 the damned BGA soldered connertor of moderna laptops are the worst abominaton ever Made
@@kztech1319 You can change the CPU even on the 4th gen I series: just see if it ends on U, if not, congrats! Else: company funni money maker laptup go brrrrr💵💵 ( if u did not understand: the U ending in Intel mainly means soldered CPU at least on the I series)
About Android and Google having control over security patches: They've been working on exactly that for about 5 years now.
Since Android Oreo, 8, they started splitting the actual Android platform and firmware/configuration for the hardware. This would allow generic system images built for any phone to be able to run with minimal or no additional configuration on devices.
Also, since Android 10 there's Google Play system updates: Parts of the OS, such as the media stack, or even the actual Android runtime running apps (since Android 12 only, sadly) can be upgraded by just Google, or even you if you sideload the updates.
Seemingly, with every new Android version, they're getting closer and closer to that. I'm glad it's that way.
I agree that is good, but you take the good with the bad, every new version of Android also apparently makes it harder to do certain things, from basic functionality like file management to unlocking the bootloader or rooting (of course the manufacturers are to blame too), so pretty much they keep pushing to make Android more of a walled garden rather treating things as general computing devices which is bad for old devices because it makes them more difficult to repurpose later on.
@@vgamesx1 The file management thing's actually intended to protect the user from apps that abuse storage or create unnecessary directories at /sdcard/ and so on, though was poorly implemented in my opinion. I do think some of these changes are bad, but what Google does to AOSP is **not** the things that try to create a walled garden, it's the OEMs (and sometimes Google again, but with GMS) mostly.
@@jbk0 I'm not a developer, but from what I've read those are the sort of things some devs say about it, a good few of them don't like the new versions of Android.
Two of the most common tricks on electronics is using soft touch plastics and painted surfaces (specially chrome finish). Soft touch wears down, specially under hot weather, and becomes sticky, impossible to clean without strong dissolvent (it could wear down in 2-3 years). The painted surfaces also wear down, making the products look old and diry.
Yup, I saw an old laptop the other day and the rubber was just sticky! Same for the rubber feet of older Macintoshes
You hit the nail on the head,
My father worked for Phillips in the 1950's, he was partly in charge of the inbuilt fail design for valve radios, he told me the company bosses had requested this due to not many fails in the products.
I myself have some 30 year old Japanese made Amplifiers and tuners, they all work to this day 100 percent as they did when new, my Japanese made cars are all over 30 years old and they also are in very good condition for there age with very very minimal repairs done.
I myself would rather purchase a product that will last and pay more money for it than buy a piece of chinesium crap that is lucky to last 1 week or 1 day past warranty date.
I think that a better product for a higher price is the problem. Many people buy the cheapest thing on Amazon without considering the durability of the product. It's the same reason why Wish exists, even if everything is bottom of the barrel items. It seems like there would be a small market of people who would purchase for durability.
This is exactly why I NEVER buy anything new ! 👍
i ever watched footage on youtube about sony's first product, tr-55 radio. surprisingly, it still works well. even they put the circuit diagram inside the radio.
@@dpqb-web yes exactly, most of the electronic equipment I have is Sony.
My dad says the same thing. He owns several 30 year old Korean made stereo systems from LG which still work well today and have good sound. My grandpa also still owns a Hyundai Excel and still drives well. No engine overhaul whatsoever.
You are actually right.
My laptop did give up at around the 4-5 year mark, i did repairs worth of 70-80 dollars. And its still going strong for the 6th year. Its a super budget laptop form 2016
My Acer "gaming" laptop broke down after less than 3 years where my previous one (also a Acer, but a budget Celeron basic model from 2009) lasted for 11 years (for me and previous owner combined)
I bought a Ford F150 in 2012 along with 6 of my close friends. 4 "major" recalls were issued. 3, ironically, were issued as soon as the chip shortage began. All of my friends had the recalls repaired, I chose not to. All of them have new trucks now because some "issue" cropped up and the repair wasn't worth it. Mine is running like a champ, just put new brakes and tires on it and most importantly, no issues whatsoever. Coincidence... maybe, but I wouldn't put it past any corporation to sabotage their own product if it meant boosting the bottom line. Hell, I'd do it as well if it secured my golden parachute. Just remember, Wall St. and Main St. never run parallel to each-other, they will cross each-others paths at some point. When they do, try to be the windshield and not the bug...but make sure you have a plan B, in case they recall the windshield!
Honestly I hate when people say their car had a “major” repair. And then you find out it’s just a drive belt or alternator something pretty minor.
It's always so depressing to see this and worse because here in the US it's an epidemic and there's just piles of useless devices because they can't be repaired or some other circumstance. Planned obsolescence is one of the worst contacts ever come up with and it's only gotten worse in the last 5 years or so.
Hugh, you're a gem! The fact you tell us how your 1935 Dodge is that easy to service or repair with better parts availability than nowadays cars have - and the fact you have and use one in the first place! Thank you for being you!
the most saddest part is whenever these big tech brands come up with new ways to remove features in their smartphones just by claiming they made "better" alternatives, people go with it instead of never talking about the Monopoly.
Apple be like: “yeah, removing the audio port is a FEATURE.”
Yeah, most are just sheeple that way - I myself? I've had 3 smartphones so far and I've always switched company when the previous one removed features I wanted, like removable battery (without special tools!), headphone-jack etc. (Had a Samsung Galaxy SII at first, till it broke. Then I moved to an LG G4, as the newer Samsung devices all had unibody-design and no headphone-jacks anymore and now I am using a Gigaset GS5 (which is from Germany, so from my own country))...I am not playing ball here manufacturers!
Hell, I'd have bought an e-reader with removable battery, if I had found a reasonably new model on the market...sadly? None available!
I not gonna surprized if one day screen is removed and needs to be bought separately
@@normalnon-spyperson Myself bought a phone without headphone jack but I don't like that thing most companies do. I am a former audiophile but I had no choice because that phone was perfect for my budget and sadly lots of bang for buck phones were not in my country and import is like +100$ tax..or so.. At which point might as well buy a different budget phone..
It's sad that they removed Audio and SD .. Guess what ? people are buying earphones & Cloud services are being more popular. I don't mind Earphones for morning walk .. better than big headphones for outdoor run but wired is better atleast , they won't fall down and I won't accidentally loose one !.
@@dreamingflurry2729 Removable batteries are long gone. I have Galaxy E5 and J5..
J5 can remove battery but it's a bit slow , and E5 is barely usable.
I also have Samsung A10 which was last phone with earphones , chargers in the box.
My new one plus has not headphone jack and Xiaomi or Transsion phones are better value for money but most are not avaialable here.. It cost me extra 100$ to buy them for import. Worse is 150$ with some .. ( imagine if Xiaomi was perfect for budget + headphone jack but I pay 100$ more than people who can buy from china or india because of import. Sometimes products cost almost 90% more ) Profit and tax is okay but lots of tax is sad. As a car lover i hate my country , they made it illegal to modify cars and worse .. even fixing car buying parts not here will tax you a lot. Enough to sell it and buy a cheap one other people normally use.
I realized this when my first tablet's screen connector ribbon cable broke exactly 1 day after the warranty ended. And what a surprise, that cable costs as much as the whole tablet did. This was the template for these affordable tablets almost everytime. (It was kept really safe, yet still..)
And there should be laws to allow bootloader unlocking, because it can save devices. My first smartphone (Allview sth, Android 4.2), just magically broke one day, and had no updates before that anyways, but I gave a firmware flash a try, and suddenly an Android 5.1 (I think) firmware from a different Allview model worked. So not only I fixed it, I also got an update.
Had that happen to a alcatel fone. Updated and it broke. I installed previous firmware and it worked. Same thing happened with a t-mobile issued note 4. Updated to latest firmware at the time it stopped booting. Recovery and installed earlier version and it worked
i had a moto z2 force with bootloader unlocked and rooted, one day it just turned off and i found out the OS crashed into itself to the point it wouldn't even *boot*. it stayed at the bootanimation until you turned it off.
flashed the stock rom back into the device and it fixed, never had another thing like that.
wonder what had happened to it..
Forcing VOLTE onto only Approved phones through Carrier IMEI has done it for me. So many of my phone's will no longer work with with my Carrier. The same could be said for 5G, but I find the speeds a joke.
YES!! AT&T won't authorize VoLTE on my Pixel 2 - even though it's perfectly capable of it.
@@petelite that's surprising considering these phones have no issues running Volte enabled networks in my country.
Thats just a US problem, any country where the network doesn't check the phone model against a whitelist will work as long as the network supports it.
@@leo34150 My country still have 2G/GPRS
@petelite I have a Oneplus 7t Pro (Global) that I had to stop using because my Carrier turned off 3G and isn't eligible for VOLTE. Same goes for my Essential Phone on this carrier.
He is correct. I was doing warehouse and forklift training six years ago. Our tutor was telling us that he was working in a factory and he was supervisor. He said everything manufactured in the factory was made in a way that it would fail after two to five years so that people would buy a new item.
My POCO X3NFC that I bought nearly three years ago had its usb port fail a month ago but instead of buying a new phone I got a new usb port installed for€50. It should last a few more years.
That's why I recently bought an iPod. The simple idea of being able to repair and upgrade a device like that is so enticing to me
Great video! As raw material resources are limited, we must start building products that can be used for as long as possible. There are two problems. 1= Manufacturers are greedy and just want to sell new products. There is not enough revenue in supporting old products. 2 = People want the latest and greatest. It's an important status symbol to show your friends you are using the newest. Both need to change. And must change.
I agree with everything you've said about how wasteful the industry is. I do my best to repair laptops I find that have been thrown out to keep a little bit of ewaste out of landfill. All of my hardware is bought secondhand, and I try to get older, very easily repairable hardware (like my 2014 Dell Precision laptop) if ever possible. People just don't realize that the newest thing isn't always the best.
The Dell Latitude E6400 from 2009 is hands-down the easiest laptop I could repair. One screw gives you access to like 75% of the replaceable components (CR2032, RAM, CPU, heatsink etc)
@@jasimaneesahamed1033 I've worked on a few of those too. Quite good.
I know right? Used tech is also cheaper.
@@jasimaneesahamed1033 is a 11 year old accer aspire 5733 easy to work on??
Watching this on my 2014 iPad Air, which still works as well as the day I bought it.
The home button is slightly stiff, and the official cover is getting a bit tatty, but eight years of daily use will do that.
My 2010 Ford Fiesta is also holding up very well, and I see older cars on the road all the time.
I have an 04 Ford Focus edge. 1.6.
Man the working room in the engine bay is phenomenal! Still runs well, just got to do a few bits and it'll be perfect. Brakes, alternator, maybe the battery. Rear bushings.
All maintenance items and original parts that's lasted nearly 20 years!
I bought it from a chap a few months ago and it had been in his family since new.
is you updated your ipad with its latest firmware
Mhmm surprised most didn't said Ipad 2. That's one device almost every one can relate to having. Even those with less budget.
There’s planned obsolescence for you - where manufacturers deliberately shorten the lifespan of their products (effectively built to fail) so customers end up becoming repeat customers more often than they should when whatever they buy fails, resulting in more profit for the company at the expense of the consumer.
I'm in the refrigeration industry, home fridges don't last, the inside has aluminum and steel tubing which leaks after 2 or 3 years and it irreparable, forcing the customers to buy a new one, and repairmen don't get work, except for the expensive Bosch and lg fridges, but they're so expensive you could buy 4 fridges in the place of it
The weakest link in the Android update chain currently seem to be the SoC manufacturers like Qualcom and Mediatek. Even if the OEM of the device wants, good luck making a new kernel work as soon as they drop support! It's a freaking mess and that one huge advantage x86 systems still have, those get basically infinite support until it all but desintegrates.
Yeah this is why there is ways to modify windows 11 to run on very old pc's.
I agree. Even x86 based Android devices can't run PC stuff without extensive hacking to unlock access to both the PC and Android sides of the bootloader.
Totally, agree. There should be a law that forces hardware manufactures to provide open source firmware/drivers instead of those binary blobs.
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I have a note 9, and if I didn’t have a cracked screen that’s very expensive to repair it works great. The battery is a little funky but if it was easier to repair I would do it and use this phone for the foreseeable future. Sucks how the tech industry is with repairs.
I replaced the battery on a note 9. It’s BALLS. But once you get into the phone, as long as you scratch off most of the useless adhesive and leave just enough on to hold the back on, it’ll be more than good enough.
I still have my note 9, I did one battery replacement about a year ago and it's been going great since. Plan to keep using it for as long as possible
@@remarkable4 isn’t the battery life on a phone that just had a replacement just wicked? I replaced the battery on a 4s too and it lasted almost a week on its first charge.
Im using my s9+, my only gripe is the battery and storage and memory. I wish I could switch them out for higher capacities lol
@@Ethan_23287 Replace that battery and toss an SD card up in that punk! It'll be good as new. Also every few years a backup and factory restore helps a bit. Not much can be done about NAND wear, unfortunately.
It’s almost humorous that you uploaded this today as I had one of my cameras out to shoot today at a barbecue. This camera is from the 50s and still works absolutely fine and it got my friends and I talking about how nothing is made to last anymore. It’s saddening that nothing is made to last as I would love to have my beloved tech and tools to last me until I’m well in my 60s but I doubt they’ll outlive my 20s
What camera were you using? I was just out today with my '58 Ricohflex earlier this morning.
@@The_Kaleu LOL I was using a 58 ricohflex too
This is such a great video! Every point is spot on. We live in such a disposable world nowadays and technology is even worse. We still must keep pushing legislators to expand the abilities for right to repair, as well as being against monopolies in regards to replacement parts being software locked.
For laptops and desktops, I generally find that (for non apple products as they tend to be wild cards), there's less overall hardware based difficulty with replacing hardware for higher end systems, such as the HP Z series, Dell Precision workstations, Dell XPS computers. One of the more cost effective solutions to getting a good computer is buying one of those high end desktops from a few years ago, and just like your Mac pro, they work perfectly fine with most OSes you can put on there.
Desktop computers seem to be (one of) the last holdouts of the never ending march of planned obsolescence into the consumer space, it's still happening, but you can still find more ways around it than with laptops or smartphones.
Corporations can't as easily push anti-repair methods onto desktops as there's a precedent users are already used to. Which is likely a major reason why phones and laptops are pushed so hard over desktops by marketing.
Cheap used Xeons come to my mimd when reading this comment
It would be great to see companies being made to make their products more sustainable.
It might happen in the UK, but our government is busy trying to take us back to the 1970’s, so that might have the same effect!
I wish they were taking us back to the 70s but they are actually trying to continue tony blair policy from the late 90s like mass migration. how did you get that impression???
in more ways than one
wtf a car is supossed to work for atleast 30 years, you can even sue if your car breaks unfixable without any mayor acccident on mexico
we got a full refund on our 10 years old car when it broke for no reason
Very informative video. It is a shame that tech companies have duped people into accepting 2-3 year shelf life for their phones.
My last phone lasted me 5 years and I finally upgraded it, mostly because I was bored of it
For the new gen of consoles ... the SSDs are soldered on the MB ... so within say 5 or more years of daily use you'll find the UI will slow down (and games start to lag a little) and eventually fail to play games or load the UI
Great video. Some time ago I realized that I could buy an iPhone but I never really owned it because of the upgrades that were almost impossible to downgrade again if I was not happy with the result, so I switched brands. Keep up the good work.
What makes it even worse is repair shops that give you a false diagnosis and convince you to buy a new phone as they claim it'd cost more to repair.
I’m from a village and the mentality quite often is to use things while they still can do the job. There always existed people that wanted the latest and shiniest, nothing wrong with that as long you don’t do it to show up and look others over the shoulder. But since the explosion of social media the need for the latest and shiniest has also exploded, so now we have another type of obsolescence, the “product not fit anymore for Instagram/TikTok/etc or to show up in general” obsolescence.
And recently we also get the “eco obsolescence”. For example politicians will try really hard to get you to get reed of your old car because it is very polluting. And in fact it is very polluting but so many people use their old dirty cars not that much so the less polluting option would be to allow them to keep them rather than to have to build a whole new car for them to buy it, since pollution associated with construction of a new car is massive… But again, to get the latest shiniest thing seems to be the only possibility… (note: not a rant against EVs, when there are enough of them in the used market in good shape and well priced will get one, but until then will keep my old dirty ICEs).
Evs are a scam!
Was just having this same discussion with both my sons. At my home office I’m on an older Apple ecosystem. A 2012 Mac Mini (Catalina) with an i7, upgraded to 16G of RAM and 256G SSD paired with a 2011 Apple Cinema Thunderbolt 2560x1440 Display, Apple Magic Keyboard and Apple Magic Mouse. My work office setup consists of a 2021 MacBook Pro, Triple 27” Monitors, Logitech for Mac (in white) and Apple Magic Mouse. You would think my office gear would run circles around my 10 year home gear…..it doesn’t. We can run Geekbench, cinebench, etc. and it’ll show the numbers but we just can’t tell the difference. Having the latest gear and updates seems to be regulated where as the older stuff does not. Love my old gear.
@Ibrahim Anser for home gear, 90% of Mac consumers are not video editing or are heavy users. Now for work gear the ratio changes but even then it’s not 90/10 either. For those who are content creators, IT, etc. then having the latest gear is very necessary.
For the home button replacement, you don't even need a home button. You can activate accessive touch (I think that's what it's called) to get a virtual home button.
For example that came my mind right now:
TH-cam removed HD icon from 720p.
You can not install Office 2019 on Windows 7 but actually it supports it because you can install it via some additional installer.
My 5+ years old N9005 started to drain faster through the years and this year I found that Samsung's own system apps were causing it. I removed it and right now, my phone lasts very well like the old times.
Yeah I noticed that as well! 720p to me is still high definition, man what is wrong with this world now 😕
720P is actually pretty blurry sometimes... But it is still a good resolution, gaming at 720p is still acceptable sometimes but the bare minimum
Great eyeopener Hugh! I had never really thought to much about it early on (as in 5+ years ago), as I was the classic consumer wanting the latest and greatest all the time!!
I did have a Samsung Galaxy S9+ since launch and really had to hold back wanting to upgrade each time Samsung released a new model!! It probably took until the S20 was released, when I realised that I no longer needed to upgrade, because 1. I barely played any graphic intensive games, so didn't need the latest processors, 2. the phone was more than capable of performing all the tasks I needed it to do, and the Apps I used were always being updated anyway, and 3. Samsung were still releasing security updates 4 years on! Even though the the OS was still stuck on Android 11.
It wasn't until the battery performance was really starting to annoy me, and when Google released the Pixel 6 with the 'promise' of guaranteed OS upgrades for 3 years, that I finally decided to upgrade to the Pixel 6 when it launched... which, touch wood, I must be one of the few who has not experienced any issues whatsoever!!
Of course, the irony being that Samsung also announced a few months later, that they too would provide a guarantee of OS upgrades for an even longer period, but prior to upgrading to the Pixel 6, I was over OneUI and Samsung phones in general, so needed a change of scenery, which I'm glad I did.
Thanks for a great video Hugh!
It still is quite an okay device and I think it was flagship at that time. Still while SnapDragon 845 is also better than Helio g99 or some other budget gaming devices like with iTel RS4. It should run graphic games for playable 24-30 fps ( configurable ) if you ever wanted to , Otherwise your phone is perfectly fine. Don't do software upgrade without checking and confirming if it don't slow down or what others experience ,. OH ! you already upgraded to google Pixel 6 ! ( forgot that part ) , that's good keep it well
It's quite decent and very OP still . its rival Snapdragon 888 = the flagship of 2020
I'm doing everything I can to convince my friends and relatives to buy laptops with non soldered ram nor SSD, it's not easy as many just want a beautiful laptop or phone, and few understand how harmful to everyone is this new wave of unfixable devices, my worst experience is my Samsung Chromebook pro (m3 4gb 32gb) it has one of the best displays I've ever owned, sadly one day the wifi chip started to do funny things, I've tried everything software related, and it's a hardware issue, as everything is soldered to the laptop and it's a Chromebook, it has became a complete useless device as it's so slim that using an usb wifi dongle it's just dumb
I wouldn't worry about an SSD. It take so much time to degrade it's not even worth caring about.
@@fanban2926 that's not the point, the thing is: what happens if your laptop dies one day without warning? You just lose all your files? What if you were doing some really important work and had no backup of the last 24 hours? With removable SSD you just take it out and keep your files
Made this mistake with my Asus Zenbook back in 2017. Soldered-on RAM, now I am stuck with 8 GB. Thankfully the SSD is replacable though.
I can 100% relate. I find it startling how so many people just don't care about being able to repair their expensive purchase in the future. It's almost as if they look forward to a small failure after two years because it's the excuse they need to allow themselves to buy the next new shiny thing. When I come in with the voice of reason on reparability, I sound like a Debbie Downer recommending some boring unknown product that doesn't have the marketing appeal NPCs love so much.
Framework Laptop has entered the chat, quite literally, I'm typing this comment on one. very reasonable price for a thin and light laptop that looks like something straight out of an Apple catalog, with premium build quality. It's also fully repairable and upgradable.
It is unbelievable that no phone in the last 10 years has last me more than 2 years, everything is going well and then 2 or 3 problems at the same time make the device practically a brick. Samsung, Motorola, Xiaomi... They all have failed in the 2 year mark. And Iphone is too restricted for my needs... Not sure what to try next, maybe a coin flip.
I still have my mate 9 from like 2016, it's starting to freak out slowly and the battery isn't the best anymore but it stil works just fine.
My S9 is still fine and I use it a stupid amount. The only issue I've got is at 4-5% it just dies, as I said though I've used it a stupid amount.
If I had turned fast charging off (or used it intermittently) I imagine it would still be fine.
I'm waiting for a Fairphone that doesn't weight over 220g.
@@IVPixel Man you are so lucky, i wish for something like that.
Its not unbelievable. What is unbelievable is that everyone has the power in their back pocket now, to start revolutions and change the world but they chose to keep their crap jobs, swap cake recipes and watch cat videos!!
A lot of us just need to call, text, email, browse, listen to music, browse… take simple photos. it’s not that much different than 10 years ago so I don’t see why an old iPhone would be completely unusable today when they offered the same features. I have an iPhone SE and people are laughing at me, but at least I have a headphone jack.
Same I use a hauwei mate 10 from 2017 it still can handle high demanding mobile games and still have a headphone jack.
You are spot on. When I first got a Samsung Galaxy s20 Ultra at launch I specifically had chosen to not update the phone because although the last updates for phones may not essential be broken at the time the software is mostly abandoned and enters somewhat of a broken state which is unusual. Although I missed out on security updates and people on Reddit were subjective on this thinking I was stupid. My phone maintained running well and I only updated when there was a major update.
Apple definitely seems to push harder for people to update their devices and there isn't a workaround to it unlike android phones. I've used several old phones which originally ran poorly but now run great with custom roms. Such as Galaxy Note 3 on android 10, S8+ on a modified os or the Note 9. For those with time and patience old phones run pretty well on custom rom just as if they were new phones. The only setback is the ram sometimes can't handle modern applications data consumption and looks to kill off every app from running in the background quickly.
Gone are the days of easily being able to manage your own phone. Though companies are so hard pressed on following Apples ways that over the years I've become less keen on Samsung and might actually switch to iPhone simply due to how poor their practices have been. Don't get me started on exynos controversies. I 100% believe all these companies intentionally make their older devices unusable or apps disfunctional to try push users to update.
I always found that around the 2 year mark a phone would have a slight fit near around a new release of a model but maybe that's just me becoming a conspiracy theorist and going insane.
Eres uno de los únicos que recomiendan no comprar y seguir con lo que tenemos ya que en verdad eso aun funciona y no hay necesidad de cambiarlo, té admiro por eso y gracias por dar este mensaje por el bien del planeta
When I updated my old iphone SE to IOS 14, and it started to use up its newly replaced battery in an hour. The tech support "genius" said I was imagining it. Horrible company.
Maybe you've updated TOO EARLY. Few major iOS updates haven't had "issues" at the very start, some more than others...
@@syxepop Yeah, never should have installed 14.0. But I've installed the later updates for 14 and it's only helped a little. The phone still gets hot and discharges rapidly.
Original SE with iOS 15.5, new battery 1-2 yrs ago. No problems.
You should only update to the lowest version needed by your apps as and when required. Apple make this dificult tho so the only way to do this is to download the latest signed image of iOS to your computer and keep it for when YOU need to update through iTunes / 3U. Apple only provide signed ROMs for the last few versions tho so you have to keep them ready in advance or you'll be forced to update to the latest version.
Downgrade from ios 14 use itunes
I agree 100% it's absurd that this is going on. I try to fix all devices that we're going to be thrown away or already was. Like the mid 2009 MacBook pro I found in the dump. It had minor corrosion due to water damage, I removed that and the only thing that ended up being bad was the drives which was easily replaced and it runs like new. Nowadays you can't even replace the drives on most devices
It's because many modern devices are basically sealed shut with also built in non removable batteries
@@stephensnell5707 yet again, planned obsolescence! Yet the tech reviewers would say it's great because it offers waterproofing 🙄
@@shanepatrick641 you can have waterproofing with user removable parts… it’s just an excuse to make products designed to fail.
Most points being valid, I want to hint at a more pervasive kind of planned obscolence today.
Thing is, it doesn't have to be intentional. It suffices to have the general culture of fast product cycle and turbo consumerism, then the whole thing fuels itself. In that case you might say that society as a whole has the intention to do PO, but individual producers or consumers contribute to it well enough by just being part of the model. They don't need to be conscious or intent on it individually.
I commend your activism on this issue. It's a shame really. These companies have become richer than most countries of the world; it's crazy
We need awareness or they will keep robbing the customers
Great video as always Hugh! I still use my mid 2012 non retina MacBook pro to this day, it's now nearly 10 years (!) old. And after a battery and SSD replacement, which was super easy, it still runs like a champ. I bare with you that the newer MacBooks can't last 10 years.
Yes yes yes you've really hit on every point about the ridiculousness of these huge greedy tech companies and the scandalous and wasteful nature of forcing perfectly working tech to become unusable before the end of its life. It makes me so furious.
Just like what a fellow aussie said:
_"Big companies always makes the worst junk!"_
Dankpods
Imagine making a phone so fragile that if it drops from your pocket it has to be replaced
totally agree. also with phones and laptops getting bigger for functionality they can definitely make them repairable. let customers choose; built to last with modularity or sleek and slim but difficult to repair. i know which i would choose
I'm using a 5 year old Samsung Galaxy S8. The screen has been cracked for 6 months, but everything still works. The battery is still acceptable, but I have noticed a decrease in capacity (mostly from using the phone while charging). Not to take away anything from your completely valid message, but I don't believe every device is affected by planned obsolescence. 🍎 is the worst offender though.
Some of the older phones can also run custom roms which extend the life of the product. The hardware though, is a different story.
🍎 is worst offender and yet my iPhone from 2015 is still getting full software support in 2022 whereas your phone from 2017 hasn't gotten official software support in years lol
You’re using a very insecure phone though. Planned obsolescence also applies to software and your phone is more than capable to receive either security updates or newer versions of Android but Samsung will no longer update it because they don’t want to. They already consider that you already got your moneys worth.
In software perspective, 🍎 is still better than Android. Custom rom ofc can extend the live of android but you must be careful.
@@Weildren The S8 has good custom rom support - no need to stick to original OS it came with - in fact my S7 is still in very good condition and using the very latest security patch June 2022 using lineageOS and it gets updated every couple of weeks. Something apple does not.
All these happened because tech companies started striving to be the 'richest company in the world', with more money stashed, than they can ever spend in a lifetime.
I miss the time when tech companies were modest, and not filled with greed and unbelivably astronomical profit targets.
@Jaquan Kelsor And Jony Ive. And Tim Cook.
@Jaquan Kelsor Apple has gotten worse since he died so you can't blame him. Blame high frequency traders and over inflated stocks, companies have to make as much money for their investors as they can and if they don't then they get sued. The law puts investors first and customers last, and that's the problem.
You live in a dream. Since the day companies were born they have always wanted this.
Company also have workers, and this workers need to eat, if company like apple make their devices last for like 10 years they can’t barely make profit and the workers, investors etc cant have their money, then they will be bankrupt, its actually more complicated than that, like supply chain also one of the biggest effect, also technogical advancement will stuck, look what phone and computers has become in the last decade, its thanks to that companies policies…
@@RivandaBakhtiar It's both, but I'd argue that publicly-listed companies still primarily try to make revenue for their shareholders, rather than their workers. I'd wager that in most cases, publicly-listed companies try to pay workers the minimum they can get away with (subject to laws and supply/demand for the talent they require), and pay shareholders and executives the most they can get away with (before they have no money left over).
I think things would be less bad if we didn't have the share market and capitalists capitalising on capitalists capitalising on capitalists (e.g. high frequency traders), but there would definitely still be some of these problems.
Corps should be forced to assist with EOL of their products by way of making removing software locks available.
Kinda like how Oculus released a bootloader unlock for the Oculus Go after discontinuing it thanks to John Carmack's influence. That was a really cool thing they did that I wish other companies would follow.
True. Especially with smartphones. Let the age of perfectly fine devices becoming ewaste go away for good and make sure it never has the slightest chance to ever return.
just two corrections:
"Most of todays laptops came with soldered down RAM and SSDs" - only apple ond bottom of the barrel laptops
"SSD can degrade" - SSD is a wear element, it is not a question if it will degrade, it will degrade
Soldering down and programming wear elements is the worst apple has done so far, imagine a car with ireplaccible brakes.
Whenever I think apple can't dissapoint me more, they do...
Let's hope framework laptops are succesful
@@kael070 but few people know them
@Repair Wins Thanks apple for starting anotherbad trend, one more reason to hate you.
Same with Sony’s PS5, the primary M.2 SSD witch the OS runs from is soldered down. I can’t believe Sony took this route, the amount of write and read and delete of games through its lifetime it’s durability is questionable.
@Repair Wins , Sony once was the best company in terms of repairability, they were even giving us the schematichs and everything we needed to fix anything. But then they turned to worse, using poprietery elements unavilible to the public, and then these terrible cost cutting messures.
You speak the truth. Before my second stroke, which effected my memory, my TH-cam channel covered a lot of the bootloader unlocking and custom firmware flashing, with reviews on those custom roms.
It's amazing how many custom roms are out there for most devices. I even developed my own custom ROM, for the Samsung Galaxy Tab A 9 inch, that was hosted on XDA. Now my channel is on anything tech but not custom Android OS flashing.
Phone companies want you to purchase new phones and this is how they do it.
I own an iPad Pro from 2017. It still allows me to draw on A3 size, 300dpi res canvas with dozens of active layers, without slowing down on its 120Hz display. That's 6 years from launch date, and 4 years since I bought it.
But I bought iPad Pro M1 anyway, because of marketing and hype.
I cant be the only one.
We deserve to be screwed over like a looseholed ho because we allow ourselves to get played by companies into buying things we WANT, not what we NEED.
I really wish more people really started thinking about these things. The worst part is that its not just limited to electronics. Even clothing nowadays is made around the same model.
Fast food, fast fashion, phast phones, they're all built for fast failure.
This kind of stuff bugs me as well, so whenever I go to my local recycle/waste drop off here in the US, I always check the e-waste bin to see what I can salvage, and just today when dumping some old carpet, I was able to save a good working Asus K53E laptop that I installed Solus Linux w/Budgie DE on, and it runs great, but I did upgrade the ram to 8GB, and put in a newer WiFi card that supports 5Ghz, and BT4.1 I had in my spare parts collection. I also have a 120GB SSD on the way to replace the slow aging HDD, and will be getting a new battery was well, and all of it so far has been easy to work on thankfully, and thankfully I had an old Compaq laptop charger that fits, and powers/charges it fine, and I'm using it to type this comment.
I was also able to save a mostly in order(one damaged usb port, and a small crack on the bottom of the case where it was tossed in the e-waste bin) Lenovo Thinkpad T400 with it's OG charger that's going to need a bit more of a teardown to upgrade the ram, and HDD, plus a battery to make it more usable again, but even with the 4GB RAM, the 120GB HDD, and 2.1Ghz Intel core 2 Duo, it still runs Solus/w Budge DE just fine, and even YT is watchable at 480p without dropping too many frames.
lastly I'm going to call out one more company for making computers obsolete before their time, and that's Microsoft with their requirements for Windows 11 needing TPM 2.0, and UEFI secure boot, when many older systems can run a good Linux distro like Solus, Linux Mint, MX Linux, Manjaro, etc.. just fine, and are just as secure if not more so, and will get most people's daily task done just fine, as I've even edited 720p, and 1080p footage from my phone for a work project on a AMD Athlon II X4 system with 8GB DDRII RAM, an XFX AMD R7 240 2GB GPU, 120GB boot SSD, and 1TB HDD for storage on Solus Linux using Kdenlive as my video editor of choice. was it the fastest? No but it got job done, and on time to my boss who needed it for the grant we were applying for, for our non profit.
I got a good condition Lenovo ThinkPad T520 without hard drive and battery, I mean, why would someone throw that out if it's working? The only thing of note here is that the GPU doesn't fully support Win10.
@@thespkrYT That's where Linux comes, and I was checking the Solus repos the other day digging through just about every piece of software, and noticed they have driver support for stuff as old as 3DFX graphics cards which is just wild!!
My biggest headaches with Linux in general far as hardware support has been bluetooth, some WiFi chipsets, some oddball sound cards, printer companies that don't want to be Linux friendly(it's why I use Brother laser printers, as they are well supported, and the toner is cheap if you by generic) getting the fans to spin at full speed on Macbooks, and Macbook pros so they don't cook themselves to death, and Nvidia cards, but that's slowly changing for the better, but for now I avoid them if I can.
@@CommodoreFan64 yeah Linux would be my last option for any laptop past 2025 if Windows 11 won't support it or maybe even ChromeOS Flex. I also got a Dell Vostro 2520 from a neighbor but that's very similar to the T520 other than it has an i3 instead of the T520 which has an i5. My Dell Latitude D630 with the slow but not gonna fail NVIDIA GPU is going to be 18 years old when support for Windows 10 ends and yes, it's not the fastest but still. My main laptop is a 2015 MacBook Pro which will get up to 9 years if the 3 versions before the latest release, now with Ventura Catalina will go is to be believed.
My current laptop is an HP 15-bs134wm made in November 2019 that came from an ewaste bin, upgraded the ram to 8gb and replaced the HDD with an SSD and it performs pretty well.
I bought a Motorola phone in Dec 2020, it was a new model then. Looks like security updates stopped last December ('22). The only options are: keep a device becoming increasingly insecure, or buy a whole new phone.
Even industry best (read most expensive) only have 5 years of updates from launch. That means if you buy just before a new model is released, you have just 4 years of updates!
I truly tip my hat to you sir. you actually practice what you preach and for that I have respect for you. Tech youtubers are constantly telling us about how their pissed of at apple for the things they do and whatnot but continue to by their devices for “content” purposes. I dont think owning 5 of the latest iphones are necessary for a video. they consistently buy and buy these companies tech and then are disappointed about them doing something worse the next year.
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Finally someone like you, Mr. Hugh, tells the whole truth about the unscrupulous commercial traps of the companies that defraud us due to dishonesty and excessive ambition😡🤬
Wait until you find Louis Rossmann...
@@wesss9353 Who is Louis Rossmann?
@@wesss9353 This is Louis Rossmann? th-cam.com/users/rossmanngroup
@@Marcelo-56 oh yes.
Welcome to the FANSPIN!
@@Marcelo-56 check out his videos on future motion onewheel.
Hugh Jefferys is a great channel.
I'm subbed to both.
Another one I noticed is deliberately restricting features to pay more for the same. Here's an example:
My Galaxy Tab A 10 inch (2019) has 4g carrier aggregation (4G+) support with most networks. Whereas a Galaxy M30 from the same year with same processor, does not support 4G+
My 3 year old All in one pc was never fast when I got it new as it came with a hard drive. I was gonna swap it out for a 2TB SATA SSD if I didn’t discover that it also had an NVME slot on the board. It’s sad to see that manufacturers are like, “oh no you can’t use that forever, we have to take your money every once in a while”. Now I’m a happy owner of a pc from 2017 which I upgraded recently, and oh boy, it has never been snappy as hell, whilst still being able to store a ton of crap
You are on the money Hugh , Companies have become very good at sucking in the consumer to be on this merry go round of buying new tech long before it should be replaced .
I am watching this on my 2018 OnePlus 6, it's still going strong and no signs of obsolescence. Everyone around me buying €1000+ phones EVERY YEAR. And they keep asking me why I am using a 5 year old phone now, I should be sending this video to them.
And if you ask them to do something, it's always 'no money right now' but they spend last 4 years buying €4000+ on phones just to be fancy and I walking around with a €499 phone back then.
so some people spend 7k cad dollars a year for phones but my pc from 2020 is 500 cad dollars and it still works good job not buying the new phone eacth year and my 3ds from 2012 still works fine and i puked on it once
This video is pure facts 💯💯
Yeah Hugh Jefferys is great at explaining everything!
This is actually a reviting issue , good food for thought , I do always truly believe that we don't own anything in this world
Excellent video Hugh and so so true.
I haven't touched an Apple product for years and really don't intend to. I run Linux on my pc and everything works. Like you I buy damaged Android phones and repair them, use them for a year or so rinse and repeat.
Lovely seeing the Dodge again, reminded me of that beautiful restoration video of young Hugh with his dad.
It is heartening to see your enthusiasm for consumer rights, Australia were once very progressive in this area. Hopefully now we can be again.
If you are a reader, you may be interested in the writing and work of Ralph Nader.
Go well Hugh.
they enforce you to download the latest update OS for the "security boost" while they convince you that security updates are a must have which is a real thing or maybe fixing bugs.
download the update and then the device starts lagging and filling up the memory faster than ever just to make you buy a new device.
its much more scary when we look even at the apps we have and its updates that do nothing but adding more craps to the storage and fill it.
at the long run making devices industry will have a huge impact due to the fast production and the abondoned devices which are still working but not usable specially smartphones market.
Yeah! Apple fills storage with the updates to force people to buy icloud
Great video! Love your content. Please keep up the good fight and making people aware of what these unscrupulous tech companies are doing!
Hey Hugh you are a legend mate love the vid style with you presenting in this style.
This is true of the tech industry but also true across the board in all industries especially clothing, it wears out much faster due to fast fashion.
I personally use an iPhone X and have a MacBook Pro that is over ten years old and prefer to keep older tech up and running through maintenance and upgrades instead of buying new
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the phone I'm writing this comment on is an LG V30+ from 2017. It works wonderfully almost 5 years later! Because of antenna problems, I have another phone: a Samsung Galaxy A02s. I purchased it September last year, and it's a mess. The screen is incredibly buggy, sometimes not responding to touches or responding to multiple touches when no such touch happened. It's a hassle to do anything on the Samsung phone that's not even a year old, but it's a breeze to do things on the near 5 years old LG
writing this from my iPhone 6s from 2015 on iOS 15 and very happy with it
I just replaced my old Galaxy S6 Edge for an S22 Ultra, just because the old one had a locked bootloader (ugh, Verizon) and I couldn't root it for a newer version.
That 7 year old device was still plenty quick, just didn't get the software support it deserved. The new phone is definitely faster, though, and the battery certainly lasts much longer.
@@anantav51 same with S6 edge
Thank you for creating awareness of this nonsense, Hugh. The sharks will always want more and more and someone will have to stop them.
"As a service" was the supposed response for corporations to keep earning money if they were to be forced to make or let their products last longer. The reality is, as always, that they keep forcing their products to fail AND you are totally prisoner of their software. So, the only "solution" is the only one they know: forcing them by law and imposing penalties that cost them money. Is the only way they will listen, and we could fight this e-waste nightmare.
At this point do we really need faster processors? Giant corporations and big governments don't really work for us anymore 😕
Drake and his 4 car convoy, one of the drivers in the convoy got out and blocked a Tesla driver for no reason. Corporations and customers in 2022.
@@DaciaSandero_1.5DCi really
I was a bit pissed earlier when having fallen down some stairs and cracked my p10+ screen the local service centre said screen is not made anymore phone is obsolete, heck I bought it new 3 years ago and would normally reckon on getting at least 2x that from a device. Luckily there are still 3rd party screens available.
Hey Hugh Jeffreys!
I just wanted to say that I am absolutely enjoying this new content, I have been here since around 2019 I think and I support this new content and absoulutely love it, I do also hope other people enjoy it just as much as I do because it is very entertaning to watch. Thanks for the awesome content and keep it up!
-Troy
SEVEN YEARS FOR A CAR?!?!?! I still think of a 5 year old car as practically brand new. If it has a screen in it, I see that as a futuristic luxury. Who can afford a new car every 7 years anyway?
7 years is too soon for a car to break. How about 20 years for a home??
The envy every time you flex one of the Blackberrys! I gotta give it to Android devs for keeping it so open - I recently purchased the Sony Walkman NWA-105, which runs Android 9 and the fact I can install all the streaming services I want directly from the play store is a dream come true.
Right-to-repair friendly electronics still exist today. My OnePlus One from 2014 has an unlocked bootloader, and so it is still my main phone and can still run the latest version of LineageOS (fairly smoothly too!) to this day. My self-built Linux desktop uses a motherboard, CPUs, and RAM from around 2011, an RX 480 GPU from 2016, and a lot of the other parts are from 2016 when I originally built it too. I also use monitors from around 2006 that still run perfectly.
OnePlus isn't so good about batteries, but Fairphone, Purism, and Pinephone are and also all support unlocked bootloaders.
My headphones, AudioTechnica ATH-M50X's, I bought to last a long time around 2017 and indeed are still working to listen to this video after 5 years. And I have many other examples as well, some newer, some older. I tend to either buy used, so that if it was badly-made and failure-prone it would have already failed, or buy really really expensive nice things that are designed to be durable. Some of my newer things like my HHKB Pro2 (bought in 2019) haven't stood the test of time yet as I only bought them recently but I am pretty confident that most of them will.
Better options often exist, but one does need to do some research to avoid the vast majority of products which are exploitive and planned obsolete. Though, some categories are harder to find consumer-friendly options than in others and even things that are decent like my Vive 3.0 trackers really aren't as consumer-friendly as they could be IMO. I'm probably going to start building a lot of my own electronics soon as even when things could probably last at least 5 years, I could probably get something much better by actually designing it to be easily repaired from the ground up.
Great! I still daily drive a GTX 750 Ti from 2014 on my Ryzen desktop. I have a Galaxy Note 3 from 2014 that is alive and kicking on Android 12L thanks to custom ROMs as a side phone. Swappable batteries must return, I'd rather have that than waterproof phones thank you very much.
As for keyboards, I have a Redragon K630 running QMK firmware, it's great and the switches are hotswappable so the board is fully modular.
i’m disappointed how glitchy my iphone SE 2020 has already gotten even after a fresh install of ios. Having the same soc as the 11 pro which isn’t even old is pretty scary that it is already declining. it really seems like we are going backwards in someways. unless i have a specific important use for a piece of tech, i prefer to use it until it completely is nonfictional. also he’s right about these companies making products in the past actually built to last. i still use some of my 10-20 year old ipods everyday and they’re amazing. if these companies really wanted to make devices last 10+ years, they easily could…
also it’s ridiculous now with the 3G/Non-Volte shutdown in the usa how many good devices are gonna end up e waste… it’s so sad honestly. i’d choose the environment over technological “progress” any day
Have you tried resetting to factory conditions? My personal phone is that model (16gb 😢) and it works like a charm
@@elfedorausado yes i did a complete restore and didn’t restore from a back up either. still having more problems than i’m comfortable with 😅😅
and cell companies are being dicks by only allowing "approved" devices to use volte ☹️
Kudos to you for offering a compelling video. I've long believed that the Fruit Company (not a blackberry) has planned obsolescence in Fruitphones ever since they released them - that is, the first generation was released when the second generation was developed. And then the Fruit company renders perfectly good hardware as obsolete when their operating system is updated. Yes, Windows 11 has rendered many PC's obsolete, but this is an exception to their rule. Heck, even on Windows 11 I can run programs that ran on Windows XP that I like and don't need to update.
I acquired one 2012 Macbook Pro 13 inch because it was upgradeable and I've maxed it out with 16 gb of ram and double ssd drives. The computer is an amazingly good computer that runs Monterrey. All told I probably have $350 in the computer after all of the purchase costs. I then added a stand that allows the computer to stand on its end and stores behind a 27 inch monitor - now I have an iMac that runs amazing and interestingly the computer is using the Dell monitor's 1080p settings instead of the onboard screen. Beautiful display. I liked it so much I bought another one (slightly cheaper) and upgraded it to use as a test computer. Nothing beats the assembly and hardware quality even if Fruit OS seems ass backwards on how it does things.
Keep telling the truth! Great video!
What hurts as much as one's pocketbook is the thought that most people throw obsolete electronic in the garbage. Infrastructure for recovering expensive metals and rare earth materials is lacking, and its a shame to see these materials go to waste. That's a cool car by the way.
OK, to break down some of what ya got right and what ya got wrong:
Lightbulbs of the filament types had a burn-time limit, ya either had a dimly lit room with a bulb that lasts 50 years or a reasonably bright room that the bulb lasts a year or two (Unless you used a dimmer so the bulb wouldn't be stressed by such a sudden thermal cycle and because the bulb can be dimmed giving it a longer burn time). The "bulb cartel" actually was about having a reasonable compromise of usable light versus usable life, it was a one or the other ordeal.... Otherwise LED bulbs wouldn't be allowed to last longer and would have an IC to purposely "blow the bulb", LEDs last over 10 years (for my oldest bulb) when driven sensibly and yet puts out more light than incandescent bulbs of the same "burn time", instead puts out light of a 100W incandescent whilst lasting longer than the life of 10 of those bulbs.
Apple missing a feature conveniently when a new tech comes out is planned obsolescence, reducing the speed of the phone intentionally is also obsolescence as if they were doing that to save the battery, they'd put an option in firmware that'd ask the user, "This phone is getting old a bit, do you want to Keep going fast or prolong the usable life of your phone?", which I'm glad happens now.
As for longer boot times, etc.... Have you seen Microsoft Windows? If I set a modern CPU to the same equivalent (instruction) speed as a Core2Duo, Windows 10 performs like it's on a Core2Duo, that's not planned obsolescence, that's bloat and says a lot for Apple's IOS becoming bloated.
Samsung doing benchmarking blags for thermal constraints reasoning is pretty much a Lenovo like situation, I found that the same CPU in my now disused Lenovo Yoga 12 (The metal bodied one, can't remember exact submodel number) when ran in a Dell Lattitude laptop with a smaller heatsink and roughly the same fan speed, not only runs cooler, is more responsive, overheats less and all round usable, yet benchmarking the Lenovo gives the same scores. The fact Samsung though being active in figuring out when it's being benchmarked is the dishonest part, however, bad thermal design (Including bad ACPI thermal design and poor heat management) is common across many devices, so I'd expect the phone to want to throttle back after a while just like the Lenovo, moreso because the thermal mass of a phone is smaller than a laptop..
Android having backwards compatibility is the compromise of many phones not having updates at all and thus by forcing "latest firmware" would make Android go the way of the Windows Phone... A lot of this can be solved if it was mandated that all phones have a user bridgeable solder-pad on the mainboard marked "UEFI mode" and an SD-CARD boot requirement so as to allow people to dump any ARM based OS on there as though it was just a normal PC with standardized display and touch API (so that the minimum of a usable Linux desktop can work across phones), then it's up to the end user to figure out getting the rest of the hardware working, this would allow reuse of older hardware for many other purposes and thus reduction of landfill.
Anti repair is the biggest issue, many of the above goes into that.
Also, soldering don't prevent repair, it's just a skill-set away from repair (Queue Louis Rossmann waving his hot-air soldering tool at you), it's the locking down of these chips that causes issues.
Printers, these days, many of the prosumer printers by HP will now allow most ink types, they won't allow HP branded ink for printer A to work in printer B even with the same shape cartridge, however, if the chip is for "aftermarket" it'll allow printing and it'll warn 3 types of warning:
"NOTICE: Genuine inks have been installed!"
"NOTICE: Used genuine inks have been installed!"
"NOTICE: Aftermarket inks have been installed! Incorrect ink types may clog your printer."