Eberlestock F4 Terminator Pack Preview : The Outdoor Gear Review
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Eberlestock F4 Terminator Pack
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Price: $450.00 on amazon but you can purchase directly from Eberlestock for $399.00
Heavy pack that comes in at 9lbs 10 oz.
Developed mainly for snipers but used by the civilian population more as a hunting, camping and bug our bag. Chosen by the German army and the Israeli sniper programs. While having civilian uses, it is a Go to War pack system for the professional military sniper community
Made from rugged 1000d nylon and features a huge 5000 cubic inches of space (67 liters)
Comes with a large raincover which is stored in the bottom of the pack
It's a front and top loading pack that is absolutely covered; inside and out with molle/pals webbing.
- Expandable top with cinch
- Very adjustable and customizable frame that features aluminum slides that can be molded to
your body
- Load bearing system
- Weapon system compatible that will accept a number of different scabbards
- Very similar in design to the G4 Operator pack; the biggest difference comes in that the G4 has a built in weapons carrier where as the F4 Terminator does not. It does have the ability to carry one though.
- Carries a weapon more discreetly than the G4 if that is an important feature to you. For me that is an important function of this bag
- Will hold folding weapons perfectly without any obtrusions sticking out from the top or the bottom of your pack
3 top storage pockets with compression straps
- Detachable top pack can be removed and worn as a fanny pack or as a courier pack
- Features a hydration sleeve in the top
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Upper and lower rectangle pockets that offer roughly two liters in space
- Covered in pals webbing
- The purpose of these two pockets is to provide space of course but to provide an area for you to rest your rifle and provide a stable platform to shoot from.
2 full length tube pockets on both sides of the pack which can easily hold long objects and hydration bladders
- Between these long pockets exists another pocket that is covered in molle/pals webbing.
- The zipper for this pocket had a little hooked clip which connects at the top to prevent it from accidently opening
Many pockets and sleeves on the inside which can support hydration packs and radios
At the bottom of the carrier, we have tuck pockets that run along the interior.
Also has a zippered shelf to separate the top from the bottom;
- Vertically adjustable shoulder harness
- Lots of compression straps which can be hidden if need be
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There is a Terminator XL version to this pack and it's huge. It clocks in at 10lbs 8 oz and features 6100 cubic inches (100liters). It is only slightly more expensive than the F4 and costs $489. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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watching this 11 years on and it still looks like one of the best fits for me
one of the best reviews what i have ever seen, thank you for explain so good and show the possibillities
Luke,Great review, I watched your video and just ordered this bag !!!
A pistol grip shotgun fits perfectly in those side pockets, one of my favorite features of this pack! A shotgun with a full stock fits as well but I like my shotguns short! Great videos Luke keep em coming!!
You would not believe how many sources I had to go through wondering if those front zippers allowed front access to the main storage area. Eberlestock makes good stuff...but they don't sell it well. I suspected they'd give access through there, but damn it took a lot of looking to confirm it. Thanks for finally being the one place that shows that.
Thank you brother. Will do my best to keep them coming. :)
I really appreciate the fast response thank you very much. Love the pack even if it is a older one and I couldn't beat the price
James Campbell Sure thing James. Enjoy your pack; it's one heck of a system. Eberlestock makes some terrific gear and it sounds like you got a great deal.
- Luke
thanks for the reply and videos , much appreciated.
Great review thank you!
I have the biggest crush on that damn Terminator! Right now, I have too many packs as it is, but I will be getting a Terminator this season for sure. Thanks for the review!
Best pack I have seen yet. I will order It thanks for the review.
Awesome mate. I'm sure you will enjoy it greatly.
- Luke
Nice decision Tommy. I'm taking the Terminator out tonight for a camping trip. I've been looking forward to this for a while now. :) Take care pal.
Awesome review man! Very versatile pack. Ya it is pricy, but you get what you pay for. Thanks dude!
Nice review, good looking pack.
My goodness 5 STAR REVIEW!!!! Thank you, I'm a first time Tactical Camper and I've been looking for a quality bag that can carry everything and my rifles and you made the figuring out process super simple. Thanks "TOGR" you are the best.
You are absolutely right; it's all about testing it and actually wearing it. Hopefully in a few months I can get a review out for this pack (this video was a preview of the pack). Maybe it if stops raining I can get out with it. I personally haven't had the opportunity to put miles on this pack yet so I can't comment on the way it carries. I've read only good things about it though. We shall see! Take care my friend.
I would love to see the follow up review for this when you have the time. Thanks.
Likewise brother. I enjoy it.
Enjoy the day.
Great review on a great pack. I too was on the fence for awhile as to which LARGE pack to buy. My two favorites were my own Tactical Tailor Malice pack and a Mystery Ranch Grizzly a buddy lets me borrow. I was getting ready to spring for my own when i saw an Eberlestock in person for the first time. Despite the fact they are made overseas the quality is incredible. Just as good overall as the Mystery Ranch pack. The pack is heavy even empty but it's because of how heavy duty the materials are. Overall, the Malice pack holds the most amount of gear without having to get creative. I can stuff a sleep system, sleep pad, one man tent, rain gear, rations, clothes, camp stove and other smalls in the Malice with very little effort. But the F4 is much more comfortable as it keeps the load close to your back. But instead of one massive compartment you have to spread out the items. This required a good deal of time to make the pack work for me. Even now i have to carry my sleep system strapped to the bottom of the F4 which is disappointing. Even in a top of the line compression sack it still eats up too much room.
Hey there brother, thanks for watching and for commenting. You definitely brought up some good points. For my uses I'm a bit on the other side of the scale. It's too large for my average needs. How are you liking your TTM Pack?
Luke, thank you for all your videos and your awesome reviews ---- please tell me what is the better pack 1) Terminator F4 or 2) Terminator G4 and which is the newer version --- great videos
Thanks for the detailed presentation.
Is the shown pack's colour in Dry Earth?
It really! It's all thanks to you're indep video that helped me make my final choice and go with the terminator.
Sup lil brother, how u been?
Good and you
I'm good bro, what's new?
Amazing chanel! I have one question on this one, hope you can help me. Im confused about the dimensions on the XL version of F4 Terminator. At the Eberlestock web page it says the F4 is about 23hX12wX10d and the XL version is about 23hX10wX09d. So.. how can it be an XL version? Sounds like the X90Battleship seems much bigger (36hX14wX11.5d). Help! This can really help me to make the correct decision on my next purchase. Thanks!
I hope you are this awesome in person!
I was gonna go with the. 5.11 Tactical Rush 72 pack, but this pack is very impressive. If it only came in black.
Awesome review! Who is playing the music at the end?
Hey there Tommy, how goes it?
As for the bags, I have to say that I really like Eberlestock gear! The quality and durability is amazing! The Battleship and the Terminator are both great bags and will serve you well. They are more expensive but they are 'military quality.' The Kelty is a good bag too, cheaper but more civilian in quality (smaller in available space too). I hope this helps my friend. Look on Ebay; you might be able to find a good deal.
Any chance down the line after you've to tried them both out, could you do a video to compare and contrast the FILBE and the Terminator F4 from your recent videos?
Thanks for the review, I have to say though, thing that matters most is loading it up and hiking with it ,that's what counts. The gunslinger2 when loaded up is horrible it flops around too much. Does this pack do the same thing ?
Haha I know what you mean. I have a man-grade crush on all sorts of packs. The attic of my house is full of packs and tents....my wife loves my hobby! haha
Just got my Terminator in military green for $335 from Optics Planet. Regular price was 425.
I am trying to update my Maxped Vulture II with an Eberlestock however I'm so in between F3 and F4. I asked to the company if top fanny bag is compirable with F3 and they replied, "Yes, but not the wisest desicion since it will block the top bag of F3" I also checked your modified Little Brother solution but F3 seemed have more space. What would you suggest for bushcraft and hunting sessions mostly a day long to 2-3 days long. Thanks in advance. ;)
I just want to confirm that I understood this right. Does the detachable fannypack part come off of the lid so that you can just leave it at home if you don't want it, or is it the lid that detaches and becomes the fanny pack part?
still like the bag? Id love to get ahold of one or the g4 but I do like your review on this one
Do you have a video uploaded of that camping trip with the Terminator in use ?
Question, would you recommend an Eberlestock or a civilian ruck like a Gregory for a 5-7 day backpack trip?
Thanks. I think i will decide for a Terminator, it looks stronger then Battleship and i read that a lifting handle can rip off the Battleship. Just a bad design of a handle it self, nothing else wrong with a backpack. Anyway, thanks again for help.
Does anyone know the difference between the F4 and the F4MJ Terminator Pack?
Hey Luke, what are your thoughts on the Terminator XL?
How well does the M.S.S. fit in the bag?
Can you do a side by side comparison of the Eberlestock F4 Terminator and the 5.11 Tactical RUSH 72 please ?..... I own the 5.11 Tactical RUSH 72 and would like to see the size diference to get a better idea of how big the Eberlestock F4 Terminator is.
Hey man, question. I'm trying to decide between the battleship vs. the F4 Terminator XL(the xl is their newest it seems). The XL seems to have far better organizational options + a scabbard option..but is it worth the extra $100-$150 diff between that and the Battleship? It's a 1 liter difference in capacity btw...thank you for any input. It is greatly appreciated.
Solid looking backpack. I've got 5.11 Tactical Rush 24 Backpack and looking for something bigger for longer trips. Like the quality of 5.11 and not able to see brands like Eberlestock in shops in Scotland where i live, so i need to order it from US. I'm choosing between Eberlestock F4-Terminator, Eberlestock V90-Battleship and Kelty Falcon 4000. Hed a look on some other brands and models, but i like these the most. To bad that not in black like all my pouches. Maby you could give me some advice?
Hey love you're chanel. I have a question about the f4 terminator I just brought one off of eBay after watching you're video on it I payed 300$ with shipping for it the only difference is that in the main compartment instead of the zip shelf mine has a drawstring I was wondering if I might have got an older version of the pack of you know If this is the case I would really appreciate the help thank you in advance
James Campbell Hey there James, how are you doing?
As for the Terminator pack, sadly I am not familiar with earlier versions and that is what it sounds like you got.
Please let me know if you have any further questions.
Cheers.
- Luke
Does a scabbard come with the bag?
You didn't show the rain cover, that's one of the best features of this pack.
Nice reviews, I've been lookin for an thorough review like this, I wondering about the size, I am 5'11 an I'm worried about the bag being too big
savageproduction186 Completely understand able.
I would recommend trying it on if at all possible. If you have to, buy from a place that allows for easy returns.
Cheers.
- Luke
TheOutdoorGearReview thanks for the suggestion, ill surely try that out
The New Zealand Army has this as our current issued pack. Great peice of kit.
Its terrible
@@fyaworx How so? Just curious..
The inside compartment gets compressed by the outside pockets.
Not as good as an alice pack for light infantry ops
Hey luke, i did get the pack took it out to Manistee National Forest in north western Michigan, for a three day twenty three mile hike with my dog and my lady. It is hands down the best pack I used to date. One thing I have a hard time figuring out is where to put the hydration bladder. I like the water in the center for balance but there's no hook. whats your take or what would you suggest? Thanks
Hey there Richard,
I'm glad to hear that you are enjoying the pack! It's great for sure.
When it comes to the bladder, in the past I would either lay it on top of my gear on the inside or use one of the side pouches. I would of course have to counter that weight on the other side but it worked well.
Cheers brother.
- Luke
Im looking for a Bag i can use year round for camping, have you used this bag in multiple seasons? I worried it may be to big for summer.. whats your thoughts
Jason Kohrs This pack is absolutely huge and very heavy. If you're doing backpacking I would go with something else. If you're military this way be what you want. If you're a hunter, this may work as well. For backpacking and camping, it's a bit much.
Cheers.
- Luke
Yeah, my better half tolerates my kit. I think (or at least I want to believe) that the Terminator and a Granite Gear Blaze AC 60 will be it for me for a long while. The GG will be for recreational activities and the Term will be for personal training. I have an ILBE as a BOB/INCH pack which honestly, I cannot see beating for the money. I see no reason in replacing it for those purposes. :)
I searched the channel for "Terminator" and can not find the review video, just this preview video.
Will a compressed military sleep system fit in the bottom compartment?
Lucas Dunajski I haven't tried cramming it in there myself but I have heard from others who were able to get it to fit.
Cheers.
- Luke
Man i wish i could get this bag
Duncan Sowery-Quinn Keep an eye out on Ebay. Every once in a while you will see someone selling one for cheap....well cheaper than new anyways.
Takecare Duncan.
- Luke
Have you considered using a GoPro or other head-mounted camera for the close-up reviews? Sometimes, we can't see every little detail due to the perspective angle used in the filming process.
バートレット理路 I've thought about it but the shakiness of the go-pro would equal very poor quality but I do appreciate the suggestion though. This is one reason why I show of the item and them go in for a close up that way you do get all of the correct perspectives.
Cheers my friend.
- Luke
My friend I think you misunderstood this video completely. This is a preview, not a review. Big difference. This pack is in testing now and the review will come later. You should pay more attention (to the title, comments, so on). Haha thanks for watching....and the interesting comment.
US Patriot Tactical had them for $199 last night : )
Andrew Frey Wow that is a good deal.
Thank you for letting me know about that site.
- Luke
Egads man! Would it have killed you to try it on and show us how it looks???
Nice review, is this the XL version ?
And does it have some sort of admin pouch or the option of adding one ?
Hey there MrBrrx,
this isn't the XL version. That one is a true MONSTER!
Also you could rig some sort of admin pouch. Wouldn't be that difficult.
Take care.
- Luke
TheOutdoorGearReview
Thanks for the quick reply, I subed to your channel and my oh my do you have a lot of packs !!
I've been looking for a good bag that I can use as BOB and as a good multiple day hiking/stay in nature bag 3 - 7 days living out of it, I've been looking at a lot and must say that the Eberlestock line really looks nice, but do you have any suggestions ?
TheOutdoorGearReview do you have a video with this bag full of gear, just so I could have an idea of the capacity of this bag and what would fit in it ?
Thanks man :)
MrBrrx I sure do. Take a look at the Military Surplus Overnight Adventure. You'll see it loaded up. It can hold a lot. No doubt about it.
- Luke
TheOutdoorGearReview Thanks will look at that, I've been looking for a good bag that I can use as BOB and as a good multiple day hiking/stay in nature bag 3 - 7 days living out of it, I've been looking at a lot and must say that the Eberlestock line really looks nice, but do you have any other suggestions ?
Hello brother, how are you? I really like the bag, I'm into prepping and bugging out and I'm only 5'3-5'4, would it be too big for me? and does it come in black?
Awesome review, thanks.
- Fawaz
Hey there Fawaz,
this pack is great but it is HUGE! If you have enough gear to carry a pack like that I think it will serve you well. I'm 5'4 and I find it pretty comfortable considering how much it weighs.
I don't believe they offer this in black, just brown and grey I believe.
Cheers.
- Luke
Thanks for the info brother.
-Fawaz
if you have the G1 why did you get this pack and not the warhammer that can take the G1? You get more capacities with the combo of Warhammer and G1.
These are standard issue in the NZ Army now, quite modern however they have become the largest cause of injuries on field exercises. Good for accesibility and/or lightweight tactical use, but they are NOT designed to bear much weight due to the lack of a frame or large main compartment.
Are they really? I haven't heard that yet.
Thanks for sharing that Fixdeluke.
- Luke
No worries. They are great for a light recon/hunting/survival pack, but in terms of long term survival not ideal for heavy loadbearing. If you do purchase them, BE ABSOLUTELY sure to fit the straps correctly unless you want to suffer nerve injuries.
fixdeluxe1: I could see the need of wanting to change the kit across the board to be equal, but like everything, when the Alice Packs were in use - it's all about how you get a "snug fit" & making sure the pack is squared away properly with a correct loadout. As you know, when you think you can't fit anymore in - you are made to find the space LOL.
if this pack had aluminum frame built in it would be perfect, but im still leaning towards the Finnish army packs the sabre i think
@@deepsouthNZ no it wouldn't. The biggest issues are that if you put things in the big outside pockets it limits the internal compartment size. You cant fit bugger all in it, the shoulder straps are terrible. I doubt you could chuck equipment on it ie crew weapons etc. I doubt you can chuck someone onto of it and carry them out like an alice.
I'd use it for a few days task but not for a few weeks like alice
Sure Steaks. That shouldn't be a problem.
I certainly see the logic of what you are saying but for many soldiers and most civilians that isn't how this pack is used. Crazy to load this thing up and hike with it? That's a matter of opinion. Plenty of people do it. Do a search on internet forums and watch some youtube videos...Lots of 'crazy' people out there. Plus this pack is small compared to some other systems out there.
Can't watch the video says something about copyright problems!
Hmm, weird. Works for me. Glitch maybe?
I just got my terminator from amazon and got a question for you. My center divider is not zipper but corded, did I just get ripped off? Thanks for the videos.
papylove747 Hmmmmm....my friend I have no idea. I would email Eberlestock directly and ask if they have made some changes.
Let us know what you find out.
Cheers.
- Luke
ready to trade for a ruger mark 3 tactical? I'll drive to you.
At: $499 USD & about: $170 postage from the Eberlestock website to New Zealand with the exchange rate - I was looking at about $800 New Zealand Dollars to get this from Eberlestock. Since it's a current issue Pack to our Army, I want it - but at about $800 worth.....ummmm...😨😨
Chase Phillips the packs shit we are currently trying to replace it and many of us has gone back to the alice pack
kinda dissappointet because this Bag is lacking the Main Compartment seperation like the Halftrack Bag :/
if they only made it in black..
I would cut off my left arm for this pack !!...... Then again i wouldn't be able to perform all those tasks arround camp like putting up my hammock etc, So i guess i will keep my left arm and only dream about owning the Terminator..... "I'l be back-pack"
for your sake i skipped to about 4 minutes... "ugh ugh ugh you can um um put stuff in here..."
I stopped listening when he mentioned the price.
It's not my fault gear like this cost what it does.
Cheers.
- Luke
TheOutdoorGearReview
please try to say ummm less.. thanks hehe
Joshua Booth haha Yeah things have improved a bit since our beginning videos.
Cheers.
- Luke