Bad Gear - Korg Kaossilator Pro - The Synth of Christmas Past???
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- Welcome to Bad Gear, the show about the world's most hated audio tools. On popular demand, we are going to talk about the Korg Kaossilator Pro, probably THE most requested piece of gear in the comment sections. Is it the Synth of Christmas Past and why did you put me through this right before the festive season? ;)
I have almost all of the items in the bad gear series. FML 🤦♂️🤣
That is truly sad. Unless you have the streetboxx.. Then that's awesome
Great minds... ;)
Same
I have all of these as well. I feel like hes listening to my recommendation.
Bad Gear made me hunt for Yamaha FB-01 ))
What if the real bad gear was all the friends we made along the way?
These are certainly Good Gear (da best!!!)
Woah...
true story.. it actually was.
🤣🤣 Fuck friends.
I too have terrible taste in life. How do you do?
You have no idea how satisfying it is to hear every Friday: “At first glance, this thing is ticking all the boxes” 🙂 Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Florian!
Thanks! Merry Christmas!
why you look like rip off AudioPilz
seriously every synth i own....a man of my own heart
The way of Bad Gear! Stick around!
I was like: "I wonder if today he's gonna upload something", and boom, there it is. Merry Christmas from Argentina, dude. This was the best new channel of the year, congrats
Thanks! Bad Gear Christmas!
You should have watched his interview on the Gaz Williams show, you’d have got a heads up, I thought his bad gear demo was going to be slay bells, maybe next year!
I love how this channel reviews ALL the crappy gear that I desperately wanted when I just started out with synths and music. Even had (and sold) a lot of them. Awesome stuff!
Yeah, we seem to be a special group of people ;)
My name is _______ and I'm also a "bad gear" addict.
Had 2 of them for the last ten years still haven’t run out of ideas love them
Cool, did you experience any troubles with sync?
@@AudioPilz obviously this instrument has limitations when it comes to syncing and midi is a joke, but l use it mostly as a lead instrument and effects tool, looping is ok but not perfect, but as I’m a crap keyboard player it’s a god send and have perfected various techniques with this thing it still has me smiling so that can’t be bad.
Same here! I love it as a complement for other sounds. Been usi g it for producing lately
it's the channel's first Christmas, hopefully many more will come ! bad gear is one of my favorite video series
Thanks! Hope so, too!
He will run out of bad gear tho
@@fa0179 there will never be such thing as, running out of bad gear lmao
@@fa0179 never!!!
My favorite piece of bad gear yet. I've had both the pro and the pro+ and they have probably been the most used synths in my collection. They have definite limitations, but equally they allow a level of expressive control that none of my other synths quite allow. Not the tool for every job, but a very versatile one none the less.
Happy to hear that. It could have been much more versatile, tho
Just wanted to say I absolutely adore this series and also to say THANK YOU for continuing to make it during this absolute hell year.
Thank you so much!
you are single handedly causing all companies to rethink their products and in turn, giving us not so bad gear. Merry Xmas
Thanks! Merry Christmas!
I sure hope so.
Bad Gear Suggestion: Teenage Engineerings Pocket Operators…
He already did those
Thanks but there is already a "worst of" episode. More to come in 2021!
@@AudioPilz Sorry, found it now. (I *did* make sure to check the "Bad Gear" Playlist th-cam.com/play/PLRkn2QTxcJf6HCrt4YnhhjxNpRLqWOLeI.html before and it seems to be missing in there)
Kaos pad and electribe are horrible.
@@AudioPilz I missed that! Yay, more bad gear!
By far the best (almost) new site this year. These videos are delightful! Congrats on a deeply entertaining (and frequently hilarious) year! Happy New Year!
Thank you so much! Happy New Year!
No matter how crap my day this channel always cheers me up ! I've owned a number of Kaoss pads including the first version when it first came out and it was, and still is, an integral part of my kit. I agree that it's hit and miss ... but everyone who's stepped up to it has managed to show me within minutes some hidden gem of a feature i didn't even know was there. Looking forward to getting back into the studio !
Thank you so much!
when combined with the Strymon night sky it makes it come alive. it makes the disco club sounds into ambient sounds.
Doesn't Strymon make everything come alive? ;)
That jam at the end was immaculate 🤌
Thanks!
It's my main tool in my whole arsenal! I love this thing!!
I'll have to dive deeper into midi translation for it!
@@AudioPilz right now the easiest way is to just buy a RK-002 Smart MIDI Cable that will do all the translation work for you www.retrokits.com/shop/rk002/
Once again I can count on you to provide the best sarcastic remarks on TH-cam!
Thank you so much!
I had the KP3 and have a mini KP. I love the way drums work on them and wish someone would do a full blown drum machine based of the concept.
True! So much potential!
I remember seeing magazine ads in the early 2000s with Jonathan Davis from Korn pushing the Kaossilator.
That slipped my attention, thanks for posting!
Press like then watch.
That's the way! Thanks!
I've got the Korg mini Kaosillator, the battery powered one, and it's great, mostly for its tiny size, portability, and ease of playing. I've used it for my cosplay outfits, running it through speakers under my costume. What a kick! And it doesn't cost a ton.
I have one of these, it was my first synth. A guy at Guitar Center managed to sell it to me when I was like 13 and had no idea how to achieve what I wanted. The thing is fun to mess around with, but a nightmare to try to make any serious music with. I found I wasted more time messing around with it than I did actually making anything I felt passionate about. It sat unused for years, but recently I've found some cool ways to make use of it, so it FINALLY has a role in my workflow doing something I couldn't already do without it. Now there's a reason for it to take up space in my house beside sentimental value.
I will never forget watching Beardyman slay a set with four of these.
Legend!
1 of those and 3 KP3s but yeah 👍
Finally! I've been waiting for the Kaossilator since the beginning!
Perfect way to end the year!
Thanks for sticking around! Merry Christmas!
Dear god, you nailed this episode, hilarious, insightful and the tunes were dope. “Edward forty hands bender” bahahaha.
Thanks!
I picked up 1 of these early last year. It's my 2nd favorite synth, right behind the Roland MC-09! Thanks for another great show! Love the music!
Thanks for watching!
"Edward Forty-hands bender" rofl dying
We all know how it feels ;)
@@AudioPilz Yes, we do. Thanks, 2020.
This channel has made 2020 a little better. Danke schön, Florian. :)
Gern geschehen. Danke fürs Zuschauen!
Wow that cowbell surely is plonk
Edit: Merry Christmas Mr. Pilz, enjoy the rest of the holidays! 🎉
Plonk for days! Thank you so much!
Seriously though, needs more cowbell..
Hell yeah! I'm so glad you were able to get one! Thanks, Florian, you made my day!
Thanks for watching!
Ha...you finally did it , my christmas wish come true: A Kaossilator review omg...awesome video...i bought an 90€ or so cable from Rkode. So you can use after a few settings (scale chromatic note range full) kaossilator as midi device. Works not perfectly if you want to play BACH, but for most electronic music its a worth cool addon. Cool is pitch or wheel control works also as addition to xy controls. so you can get unexpected cool noise out your kaossilator. Cheers and merry Christmas🎹🎄PS: Rkode cable works also for Korg Volca Sample to change all sounds it to only one channel...
Thanks! Works for Digitakt, too! Awesome company!
You answered every question i have ever had about it. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Merry Christmas from Victorian Britain 🎄
Same to you, Sir!
Thanks for taking the trouble to point out that I will never need this one!!
Always a pleasure;)
I've had a morbid fascination with this thingy but this video makes me glad I never got one:D
A morbid fascination is absolutely necessary for that thing ;)
Thanks for this episode to make my christmas even better. Merry christmas and a musical and healthy new year from the Netherlands!
And like you said, see you next year!
Thanks! All the best!
The original Kaossilator was my first synth-like instrument and I'll never sell it because it's so damn clever and fast to make a beat on and then forget it forever. I then got the "pro" and sold it quickly, because it was kind of boring for some reason compared to the more limited original version. But for me it was really easy to make loops on the big one too, the four tracks were cool and once you selected a scale it was super easy to get stuff out of it and the larger touch pad made it even easier to hit the right notes.
I'm longing for an OG Kaossilator, as well!
Incredible, you managed to turn the year 2010 into a youtube video!
I'll take this as a compliment;) Thanks!
“Like paining the hallway though the letter box”
We all know that feeling!
OG kaossilator was my first synth !
It was my first experience with a synth beeing stolen from me as well :'( it could have been worst tho but still miss the hours of fun in the subway with it
Get another one! ;)
Rating, 0/10 doesn't even skrillex.
On a serious note I'd love to see a bad gear tier list new year special!
Great idea! I'll try to squeeze it in!
I used to do a live performance art piece back when I was studying at seminary where I wore nothing but a disposable adult diaper and played a Korg Kaossilator Pro with my tongue.
😂😂😂
I have a mini kaossilator, it is a great toy for my 3 years old son. 😊
You're a good parent!
Same here. My 4 years old girl loves the Mini Kaossilator ;-)
better than blipbox
Merry Christmas AudioPilz. great to wake up to a fresh episode of Bad Gear on Xmas morning! Thank you
Same to you! Thanks and all the best!
using this as a looper is how I do it!
That's probably the best use for it!
Just searched for "Kaossilator Pro" on YT... boom! New video from AudioPilz. Jaw drop! :)
Happy to hear that! The algo's on our side ;)
The editing and pacing are so good, florian. You deserve a mince pie for those alone ✊
I've owned it's cohort, the kaoss pad of that time, and that was a hoot to use (especially live..long loading times for the samples there too), but this i couldn't bring myself to part cash with.
Korg have remarkably used this interface as far down the line as my current smartphone (on the app, which is MUCH easier to use), but this is a curio at best. The original (and currently s/h) prices are as wild as a raver with a really bad stomach. I have no idea who owns these & i suspect they're gifts or potential tax write offs.
Korg went onto better things such as the volcas, the minilogue, the monologue and *anything* else. This mis-step is like the suit jacket you bought in a rush from the sales, on the way home from work, for a works related party the next day; you dont actually like it that much, no one cares you're wearing it & even though you won't wear it again, you dont have the heart to get rid of it right now.
You had me at mince pie! Thanks!
Man every time I find some cheap old cool lookin thing - you've inevitably covered it on bad gear! and my search goes on :P
There are some diamonds in the rough. Don't let me spoil your synth fun!
@@AudioPilz Thanks for the reply! I love your channel. Thanks for all the hard work. I'm amazed the way you can keep knocking out studio quality jams on equipment I'd struggle to play three blind mice on :)
I have a Kaossilator Pro, and it does take time and effort to discover and fully understand its strengths, and how to work within the parameters of the synth's capabilities to generate great music. Focusing too much on what it can't do or can't do very well is not a very productive approach to using the Kaossilator Pro; this will only result in frustration.
I agree! It certainly did in my case;)
Thank you for so many great vids this year! This channel is one my favorites. You will love to review the Yamaha rm1x in 2021. It will tick many of your boxes for bad gear (rompler with many many buttons). But you will be thrilled it’s a very capable dawless sequencer.
Thanks for watching! I still have to find an affordable Yamaha rm1x ;)
I had this as my first “sampler”! So weird seeing this as bad gear.
It certainly has its flaws
Bad??? this thing is awesome! Sure it may not be like some of the stuff you rich kids with your fancy high end stuff have,but...This does a TON!!!
It certainly does a lot but usually not in the way I want it to do ;)
@@AudioPilz Welll...That's just called being a snob! It is to this day one of my go to pieces of gear! Does it do EVERYTHING I want ? No! But does ANY gear? HELL NO!!!
@@nathanvanmiddlesworthmedia844 ...then maybe a Snob I am ;)
I forgot about the kaossilators! I remember watching so many daft punk covers on those bad boys in like 2009
...and none of them were tight ;)
@6:51 what a happy tune for merry 2021. Stay safe and see you next year.
Thanks! All the best!
I love my OG Kaossilator, and there were just a couple tweaks it really needed to be truly great (particularly MIDI in for notes or at least clock) so it's sad that they really appear to have let the magic out in the transition to Pro.
Some goddamned calibrated markings on the touch pad would have been a lot more helpful than meaningless blinkenlights too.
Those lights are actually counterproductive!
Merry Christmas, Florian, thank you for lighting up 2020 x
Merry Christmas! Thank you so much!
It looks like a perfect target for a dedicated firmware hacker to get some serious scene cred for adding in a lot of these functions...
Retrokits is on it!
Finally! Thank you! I bought the Kaossilator pro ages ago for 400 dollars in the US, sold it for 80 EUR in Germany, cheaply, just out of pity for whoever would end up using it. I know all of the sounds by heart. I hate all of them, with a pinch of love.
Not necessarily the worst relationship you can have to an instrument;)
When you realise this is the last Friday of 2020
It certainly is
Man, I hope the calendar doesn't just roll over to December 32nd after next Thursday.
8 more months of 2020
Either way, New Year or 2020 II corona boogaloo, better make the best of this last Friday innit
@@miamha 2020 II, Judgement Day
Thank you man for all the videos you put out this years They had been a part of my quarantine 😃
Thanks for watching!
Imagine bringing this to band practice. “Hey what key are you in?” “The key of X/Y”
It actually has a super-sophisticated scale system ;)
I play w a band and use this..you can change note scales fairly easy. I'm no theory major. But my mates will let me know real quick if I were outta tune..
@@DjSuess Yeah I was gonna say something similar, I have played with one of these with some friends on guitar and drums and it was quite easy to change scales and match them. The kaosillator pairs nicely with a microkorg also.
Thank you dude and All the best for 2021.
Thanks! Same to you!
(More) ROMpler in 2021. Great idea for more bad gear stuff :)
Thanks for the input! More romplers to come!
Been waiting for this!!! Thanks
Always a pleasure!
You should do the Trigger Finger Pro. Was 50% weeks after release and never received a single update. Then they took what they were doing with vst support and put that tech into their Akai Advance keyboard line (also under the inMusic brand umbrella)
Great input, thanks!
I have the TF (1.0). Once the software for it was abandoned, it cannot do much except trigger MIDI notes - nothing in the way of USB, except you need it plugged in to get power, even if you're not using a USB message connection. Its successor the Trigger Finger Pro was better, but I never really went back to M-Audio unless its for adapters or a low cost controller
Christmas fell on a Bad Gear Friday? It's a Christmas miracle!
Deck the halls... ;)
@@AudioPilz with 80's FM bells and holly,
The lack of undo with a pad to play notes is a deadly combination.
True! It's traumatizing...
That jungle jam slaps so hard it could pull you out of a coma, DAMN
Thanks!
Hard to argue with this assessment. The janky MIDI kills what could have been a handy rompler via your DAW. I'm saving mine to give to my son when he's older and can learn how to make music using the unit exclusively.
Thanks! Buy him a Retrokit RK002 with it ;)
@@AudioPilz 50EUR is a pricey buy - might have to before Brexit import tax kicks in :(
CC instead of note on/off. Fail.
This video was a public service announcement warning me to stay away. Thanks.
Der einzige Kanal, der über gutes Equipment ablästern darf, ohne dass ich ein Hass Kommentar hinterlasse :D Ich kenne bis heute kein vergleichbares VST Multi Effekt mit einem XY Vektor und das obwohl es einen Korg Pad Controller gibt (Korg Nano Pad).
Danke! Ich bin mir der Verantwortung bewusst ;)
It amazes me how week after week you manage to tap back in to the zeitgeist of the time when the gear first came out! I suppose part of this is due to how dated/limiting the gear you review can be, but I also think you have a rare ability here :) And was there a Blackberry shoutout there in the final track description haha?
Thanks! It's more about fax machines ;)
Love this piece of gear man, thank you for making this video. Merry Christmas!
Thanks! Merry Christmas!
Merry Xmas
*See you next year*
Thanks! Looking forward to '21
I had one of these. Bought it for creating sfx for electric music & sound design. Found out the MIDI CC was bugged out & hooked up with a dev who hacked the OS. Ended up selling it in 2018 for $150. Sounds were great but like you said "very impractical". The Korg Koass pad mini is an amazing fx module though!
I'd love to cover the KPs but I would have a hard time selling them as Bad Gear ;)
My first synth was a PAIA Gnome, a diy kit ribbon controled noise monster. Please do an episode on that.
Great input! Thanks!
Classic
I will ride and die for all of the Kaoss series. KP1, KP2, KP3, KP3+, Mini KP, KP2S, KO1, KPP..
Kaoss series is super nice and groundbreaking but Korg really messed up the Kaossilator Pro, IMHO
@@AudioPilz yeah, i will say, while I love the Kaoss Pad series, storing and keeping samples on it with the SD card is very difficult.
The kaossilator and the kaossilator pro were my first pieces of gear back in 2005. I always had the feeling that it was promising but soooo hard to play : not enough slots for tracks, the sh***y pad to play, and so on... I stopped buying gear till 2018, when I bought the novation circuit (halleliuah!!!). Such a big leap forward in terms of fun and playability !!!
Get a RetroKits RK-02 - total gamechanger for the Kaossilator Pro!
Great, now I need this device, thank you for driving my GAS! The good thing is I have a lot of RCA cables, finally I know for that!
Damn, RCA cables always tend to disappear ;)
I used it with the MicroSampler, synchronized by a BeatStep Pro. Whenever you change the tempo on the BeatStep Pro, the Kaossilator is doing something, but it's out of sync, because, the tempo signal is transmitted to full quarter notes only. Nevertheless: The results were big fun sometimes!
I noticed that behavior, as well!
it drifts...
korg told me its because its a audio looper not a midi looper.
Yei!!! My comment was featured at 4:21!!! Seems like we both agree on the conclusion! Close, but no cigar :D
Another Korg Gadget I have fond memories of being nearly good on it's own is the Monotribe, which was both the successor to the monotron and the Volca lineup beta test! It had a cool everything even though it sounded limited. I let it go when I had a full Volca Lineup but I still have better memories of the Monotribe than the Volca Drum (which I replaced with a Volca Sample)
Yeah! Thanks for the comment! Monotribe has becomre really rare and most people love it to bits!
Interesting! I have the KP3 & never thought of it as a synth, just an effects unit....I can see if you thought you were buying a synth and trying to use it that way you’d be pretty frustrated with the unit! Great video as always, thanks and have a great Xmas👍
Thanks! The KPs were never intended to be synths, AFAIK. The KO were (and it didn't really work out, methinks;)
@@AudioPilz oh, ok I didnt understand the difference, I assumed it was just a later version thanks for pointing that out....after your demo I’m sort intrigued- maybe I should waste some of money on a hard to use, not especially good sounding digital synth...😊hmmm
Thanks! Glad I'm not the only one. Bought mine at a pawn shop and thought it it had damage. Now I know why I had such difficulty.
Bummed I didn’t pick one of these up. HOWEVER, I briefly did have a Numark EM-460 DJ mixer that had an early Kaoss Pad built into it. It was excellent for those DJs with 3 hands!
Always wanted to have one of those mixers!
Great little mixer that. But it went in the bin with everything else from that era.
shit thats the red thing rite? i had em260 in the early 2000s. one of the faders broke so i had to ditch it. gimmicky thing lol
@@foundatlantis yup, that's the one. I had both. Faders went on Both. numark though always supplied cheap parts, unlike the fanboy manufacturers.
@@DJWESG1 aye i run a dxm06 since having that em260 and that has been solid, not a bad thing to say about it. strange stories with music gear, some of it is neglected and abused and sometimes mint/near perfect. makes you wonder what kind of people the previous owners were like. or if its just an inherent problem with certain models.
Happy Xmas BGMTSGA love it as usual! Have a good one👽👏👍
Same to you! Thanks!
“BAD GEAR???” Sacrilege I say, Knave!!
This whole channel is a sacrilege ;)
AudioPilz- Dig. But you picked one of *my* favorites this time...
Yes, Christmas shout outs from Canada! I've always wanted one, but I'm happy with my little kaossilator mini I grabbed for like $75.
Thanks! All the best! The little Kaossilators are so cute!
i did manage to do 3 finished tracks with the kaosilator. it was tricky but the results were ok enough to publish. it could of been a really decent machine. this video nailed that
Yeah, such a missed opportunity...
Very informative. Thanks and have a happy Christmas
Thanks! Merry Christmas!
i would like to see you do a piece on the Emu command stations like the XL-7 or MP-7 based on the Mo phatt and extreme lead modules built into a groove box controll suface with a bunch of midi and meant to be the center of a dawless setup made before the term "dawless" was invented
Great idea! I wanted to cover EMU stuff for month!
Yesss! I have the PX-7, which seems to be the more obscure of these semi-obscure workstations. 😁 So yeah, I for one second this shout, it would warm these cockles of mine heart 😊
@@AudioPilz I have the MP-7 with an added extreme lead expansion ROM. I’m not sure if the shipping cost would be prohibitive but your I would be more than happy to use mine.
More than happy to let you use mine.
@@AudioPilz Take Pauly's
Most of the Kaos synth sounds are like canned versions of exactly what I can cook from scratch with my MS 20. I love it.
True! There are plenty of sonic similarities
I really looked into the Kaoscillator Pro and I came to similar conclusions, very expensive and can't find anyone who can do something useful with it. Even synth Wizard Jordan Ruddess does'nt seem to know what he's doing with it, lol!
I think he found the ultimate application: making money;)
Ha ha, lol
Highly informative and entertaining review once again! Merry Christmas and best wishes for the new year!
Thanks! Merry Christmas!
All "DJ" gear features RCA jacks so that you can't accidentally plug into something Inexpensive ;-)
Sounds legit 😅
Another amazing review!
Thanks!
Man the mid 90’s till the 2010 was a bad time for hardware gear!!!!! There was a few gems surrounded by a bunch of I wish I didn’t buy that!!!!
Still it's a lot of fun to mess around with them
I’ve had my kaossilator OG for 13 years and I’ve used it on every musical project I have worked on. But only for Santa Sweeps E.G 6:09 in this video and sampling the sounds then manipulating.
Useless for harmony melody and drums but great for ambience and intermittent funky wobbles. Seeing as you can pick the baby one up for £40 or less sometimes over here I’d call it great bang for your buck if you use it creatively but these big boys are a whole other kettle of fish.
Great video! Thanks for the enjoyment as always x
Thanks! Santa sweeps forever!
korgy
...like the dogs? ;)
The app is actually both fun and functional.
I have to check it out
This is one of those things that almost nails it, but misses the mark.
True!