Bad Gear - Korg Drumlogue
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Welcome to Bad Gear, the show about the world's most hated audio tools. Today we are going to talk about the Korg Drumlogue. Is this brand new digital/analog drum machine the game changer we have been waiting for or is it just another unfinished hotchpotch of old technologies? Can it keep up with Elektron machines like the Octatrack or Digitakt?
Thanks to Klangfarbe for helping me out with one of their Drumlogue floor models:
www.klangfarbe.com/
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro tune
00:59 Overview Korg Drumlogue
01:50 Analog Sounds
02:27 Hidden Parameters, Filter
02:41 Digital Sounds (Samples)
02:53 Limitations (Memory, Envelopes, Lack of Sampling)
03:17 Drive, Redux
03:32 Multi Engines (FM, Noise, VA)
04:09 More Limitations (SDK Compatibility)
04:28 FX Section (Reverb, Delay, Master Bus, Sidechain)
04:51 Multiple Outputs
05:00 Sequencer, Motion Recording
05:23 Probability, Ratchets, Alternate
05:38 Tonal Elements, USB Host, Midi, More Motion
06:14 What else???
06:32 Pricing, Thanks
06:54 Hate
07:14 Jam 1 (Groovebox Jam)
08:08 Jam 2 (Electro)
09:07 Finale (Dub Techno)
09:38 Verdict - เพลง
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The same black as MC-101, almost the same small as MC-101... but overall - nice drum machine. Let's see how it came out in AudioPlitz's video ;)
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100% agree that it should be 299.
the wooooorld audio tools slaps @AudioPilz back :) C'mon, dude, I just got my Drumlogue a week ago!!!
Bro, you love that TB-3. Yes, I called you bro, bro. You feel bro?
The device that made it to Bad Gear the fastest after release. A historic moment for the channel!
In close competition to the Roland T-8;)
First thought as well! Poor Korg looool
@@bernardlindeman739 I love Korg, but like Pilz said, it seems unfinished. maybe a firmware will do it good. Like the wavestate. I Loooooovvveee that machine.
What are the parameters to bring something to Bad Gear? It was quick!
Was the alesis airsynth already in this show?
These are being blown out at 299 as predicted
i saw that and thats why i came back here to see if its worth the reduced price
@@arp_eg2158 Totally worth it. I'm buying one!
@@arp_eg2158same. I love picking up clearance synth gear. 20 something years ago I bought a Fizmo rack on clearance for $249😂
@@arp_eg2158 same
I just bought one.
Love having a gear channel that doesn't exist to sell me things!
I understand the incentives that turn TH-cam into a never-ending tradeshow and I get the pressures creators are under. But the independence and humour of this channel really make it special !
Thank you so much!!!
Yeah I definitely agree. That certainly puts this channel above the rest. The endless roasting, the humor, the music and NOT trying to sell gear. It is definitely a breath of fresh air.
I literally just came here because Korg is having a blowout sale on these for $299 1 year later, so it was kind of prescient to call that here.
Gotta say, that made some of the more unique sounding tracks you’ve done on the show. Definitely has its own sound which is no bad thing.
Yeah, it has its strenghts
i think it's Florian that just get better :)
I have a couple now, this thing is a beast! Check my comment
Wow! That was quick. I have a strage sense that you wanted to do the drumlogue way earlier, but you just were polite enough to let some time pass.
This was the fastest I could get hold of one of these;)
You called it, this is now selling brand new at outlets for $299 USD. Its actually what brought me here to check out if it was worth considering but I just get the feeling that is money I'd rather spend to getting a slightly better drum machine, or, honestly just sticking with what I have. I really love my Erica Synths LXR-02 Drum Synthesizer, and I can always spend more time with the samplers I have to fill anything that lacks.
Fair take. I like mine, I use modular and was waiting for a straightforward drum machine that is unobtrusive sounding for ages, fits me perfectly
It’s a late Friday night and I’m watching a new episode of bad gear. My life is perfect. Thanks, Florian!
❤️❤️❤️
I echo the surprise of some in the comments at seeing the Drumlogue on the channel so quickly, but I'm here for it! Thanks for making me feel like my GAS treatment is starting to pay dividends. I'm now delighted that I didn't run out to get this thing!
Thanks! I had high hopes too
You actually demo'd this better than anyone else I've seen - you're the first TH-camr who has made me appreciate this machine. There's still no way I'd buy it for it's current price, but it's also not as bad as I thought.
The main issue for me is that Korg is so completely terrible in terms of firmware updates. Although I'm sure there will be a few updates, I doubt they will add very much at all
Thank you!!!
I believed your 299€ price tag.. Great video as always!
Thanks!!!
I believed the even funnier 32Mb of sample memory! hahah hahah hahahahhhah.. Oh wait what.
@@BarryRowlingsonBaz who ever made this decision has to be fired.
I've had a total car crash of a week... Thanks as always for bringing some laughs and cheer into the weekend. 👍
All the best, stay safe!!!
Thanks to your dub techno demo I'll propably spend the rest of the night going back to some classics. :D
Great stuff once again!
Thank you!!!
The editor of these videos are an unsung hero. You both work well at being entertaining and informative. A week ago I didn’t know diddly squat about the synth culture. I can’t wait until you guys hit 1mil subs
Thank you so much but that's actually just me;)
@@AudioPilz you’re dooooooooooopopppeee!!!! Your creativity is through the roof! I have a question… was there ever a time where you were hesitant to do this? If so, how did you overcome it? I have a perfection complex and in find it really hard to do the things I want to do. Any advice?
You should have a 1000 times the subscribers for the work you put in on these reviews. Who needs the BBC license with these bangers
Thank you so much!!!
BBC wouldn't know where to start with this! CANCEL YOUR TV LICENSE TODAY.
Mist resist the urge to make a smutty joke
@@ben1210 🤣🤣 noted
*slaps roof of Drumlogue. you can fit so much menu diving into this bad boy.
Great work as always. Thanks for all you do!
Thank you!!!
Fantastic as always, Florian! You definitely scratched all my dub-related itches with the jams this week. Really, really nice.
Thank you!!!
@@AudioPilz I forgot I like dub techno. Low lit smokey cafe at night vibes.
same here
omg, how not to love the Chihiro montage? amazing video Florian.
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Your thumbnail is so true the price tag should really sit at about 300€❤ that would make it really tempting
Thanks!!!
fffiiirst ... To say that I love your work. Thank you, friday is an event thanks to you, and the fact that you make at least 3 superb tracks with all these synths drives me crazy. Big up !
Thank you so much!!!
Before I saw this (grateful to have your coverage, btw) I was saving up for a Digitakt. Now it appears that I'm ... still saving up for a Digitakt. Two months to go! Vielen Dank, Florian!
Vielen herzlichen Dank!!!
Thank you for leaving some of the memes on screen long enough to read without having to go back and stop the video 🙏
I'm getting lazy;)
Surrstromming! That stuff is a crime against humanity! Great vid as always. It must be great having Korg and Roland vying for your attention.
Thank you!!! Surströmming is indeed a crime!!!
More foods should be made with lye.
I went on a two-week deep dive down the rabbit hole watching videos of people eating that s***. F****** hilarious
I always have to wonder why the hell you would do that to perfectly good herring you could have made maatjes from. Pickled Herring SOUNDS almost as bad but the Dutch found a technique in the middle ages that makes it super tender and sweet
I think it sounds really, really good. Maybe a little stock sometimes, but for a good “sort of” different bread and butter option to a Roland TR-8s. It sits between the TR8s and Syntakt in terms of sounds to me.
You made it sing! Great job as always. I’ll wait for the blowout.
Thanks!!!
the finale dub jam is excellent. well done sir!
Thank you!!!
@@AudioPilz Please make an entire album of this (praying hands)
Happiest of fridays for you my dude! Thank you for awesome episode like always
Thank you so much!!!
This channel is just a display of your prowess as a musician. Doesn’t matter how bad the device is, there is always a very strong groove and I’m dancing 🕺🏽
Thank you so much!!!
I look forward to getting one of these - as soon as they hit £2.99
That's the price for the iOS app then;)
Thank God it´s Friday! Awesome jams! Great episode! 😊
Thanks! Have a nice weekend!
Thanks for using my screenshot of the SH-4d 😂 I can now die happy
Thanks for the great comment!!!❤️❤️❤️
@@AudioPilz thanks for your great face
I wanted to buy this, but I’m so glad I held off. Hopefully they have a fire sale like the opsix, then I’ll pick one up. Great review and just in time!
Thank you!!!
Im still mad I missed the opsix fire sale.... the modern Korg synth I want more than any other....I refuse to pay these higher prices when they were so cheap
@@fortheloveofnoise one of my happiest surprise purchases.
Let's hope that 299 discount kicks in soon. Would love to see you review the twisted electrons Deton8. It has to make an appearance here.
Great suggestion, thanks!!!
As always, perfect execution!
Thank you!!!
Every piece that drops here, will be rare and a must have in 5 years from now
There's some truth to that!
Probably you didn't know but one of Earth's rarest minerals, way more expensive than gold, is sampling memory.
Lol
Congrats, Korg. You've made a drum machine that Behringer has zero interest in cloning.
Lol, so true;)
Hi Florian. Excellent as always. Thank you.
I've held off on purchasing a Drumlogue waiting on that (inevitable?) discount that is often caused by excess stocking versus less than stellar sales. I observed this phenomena happen last year locally, albeit briefly, with the Mavis.
But if Uli's Solina clone arrives soon .... I may redirect my attention.
Have a great week.
Thank you! Same to you!
I put forth the effort and played with a drumlogue at the music store.. I completely agree there isn't enough parameters for the drum channels.. the effects sound great and you can record parameters changes but it would have come way down in price for me to be interested.. thanks for your bravery Professor and putting this on the Bad Gear list ..you are the man..👊👍😁
Thank you so much!!!
Already!! I bought one, and yes it belongs here!!!
I play alot in the dark, and only half of the peramiters light up, super difficult to use. But I expected WAY more sound options for $600.
I feel you!!!
Last week I bought a memory stick and the store clerk laughed at me when I said I need one or two gigabytes. “Yeah they don't make those anymore“. Where did Korg even find 32 MB flash storage? What were they thinking???
Punch cards?
Oh great and wonderful Flostradamus! We are about a year in, and most shops have these going for around $400. Not the same as a Reverb Op-like blow out, but still worthy of consideration. Especially now that BooChow and others have released some compelling User made synths, and effects.
vid on the last jam rlly fit the song, great ones this vid!
Thank you!!!
Happy to see you had it pretty fast ! It sounds good in your hands, but it seems to be a legit "bad gear" product. If I had that money, i would choose the TR-8S... For the time being, i will stick to my TR-6S / M:Cycles / V Drum combo !
And besides, I can't wait to hear your future SH-4D review !
Thank you!!!
Do you edit your own videos? I'm always so blown away by how much goes into these videos to be put out every single week
Thank you!!! Yes, that's me...
I didn’t think I’d see this for 5-10 years! But it’s great, because I’ve been thinking about getting one of these, so this couldn’t be more timely
After watching: maybe I should wait for them to offer £250 discounts like they did with the Opsix 🤔
Yeah, this one is a hot contender for blowout sales
your demo makes it sound quite good and the features are not bad!
Congratulations on becoming Korg’s new Chief Marketing Officer! When will the press release be out?
My assistant will take care of this;)
@@AudioPilz Looking forward to your upcoming Shinkansen dawless jams
Was looking for a budget analogue drum machine and this looked so tempting, price tag was the only thing that put me off. Good thing I settled for a Behringer 606 clone instead, dodged a bullet!
The RD-6 is really tempting
i was waiting for you to make a vid about this before i buy it!
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2:44 as someone with both the Electribe EMX and the Electribe 2, I need this in my life.
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Poor Korg 😢 I thought the same thing watching the Sonic Lab review. amazing to see it hit bad gear this fast 😂
Yeah, it's hard to sugarcoat
This is the best synth drama show of YT 😊
The telenovela of synths;)
Yeah like a mexican telenovela with out the sex 😅
@Rian K. Lol 😂
Love the fb page meme post using a photo of the 1979 test audiences' reaction to the chest-burster scene from A L I E N. Still happy I went with Erica Synths LXR-02 drumsynth purchase. Props to Control Voltage in Portland!
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Direct to bad gear must be my latest favorite genre of the splatter entertainment industry. Thank you for keeping up with the so called competition ❤️❤️
Thank you!!!! I should have placed a trigger warning;)
@@AudioPilz yes, this definitely triggers a lot :D :D :D
0:41 Possibly the best image ever haha
Lol
But I really want those Behringer Volcas... 😁
I really do like it. Will there be a Korg field desk we can put it on?
I honestly loled at that one
We've all been waiting for this one!
😀😀😀
You nailed the video for the "Deep Minimal Dub Techno" demo
Thank you so much!!!
Just watched Blush Response slay on this thing. I mean, its no slouch is it :)
You can definitely make it work!
Love how your 10 minute videos take 20 minutes to watch :D
Time is relative;)
I said it before . You make awesome demosongs of the "Bad Gear" love cheers 😄🎹
Thank you so much!!!
Like the SH4d, I'm still keeping tabs on the Drumlogue for future updates and possibilitiies. There are very solid strengths in each.
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Ty man!
Im a classical musician, I have nothing to do with synths, I have no idea how I found this channel and I think it`s fcking enteraining and interessting.
Every video I watched so far is AAA content and I think it`s a crime that channels like this are overshadowed by content farms and channels that whatever they produce can barely called content!
Thank you so much!!! Happy to hear that!
..Now its time to go buy a synth and convert your knowledge base , if you know music already you will have fun at least
It's impressive that I bought a Drumlogue, used it for a week and returned it before the Bad Gear video even came out- and it's still a new! It's a rough piece, and the way patterns and kits are stored together makes live jamming wonky. If it was $299 I would have kept it but for $599 there's no way.
Word!
KORG should have called it the “Cheeselogue.”
I believe nothing can still beat their classic Electribe range. I own an EMX-1 and it seems I'm never gonna sell it.
Classic!
@@AudioPilz I mean this thing is good, but it lacks ~something~, some magic. Dunno!
Thanks for your show, like it a lot!
Just seen your article in Beat Magazine from December 21… Nice 👌
Thank you!!!
I hope they make a follow up product that just has multiple user slots for drum engines. An open source drum machine would really be interesting. Maybe Arturia will beat them first with a DrumFreak that has multiple engine choices per drum channel.
Great idea!!!
The Electron Syntakt says hi. The model:cycles says you’re cute as well.
Dammit, every-time I find some gear that I might want to purchase I find a video under your Bad Gear series...😂
I think the moral of this series is that there is no Bad-Gear, every machine has it's quircks and puts out what you put in. But yeah this drum machine looks rubbish lol
@@LazarusWilhelm that is true but he does sometimes "take it easy" on certain gear :)
And? Did you buy it?;)
@@AudioPilz not yet :) I have my eyes on a Novation Circuit Tracks at the moment and possible a Peak as well...
The intro was killer . You said it failed ? 😮
You make all the bad gear sound good though . Great show 🎉
I like the " Logue" workflow . Motion memory is one of those things that is so instant that it is missed in its absence everywhere that is not korg . Conditional trigs , and minibrute 2S style sequencer patching seems to go only "halfway there" to immediate enough for live jamming . I just wish the drumologue sampled . For $600 I could get 2 sonicware lofi-12 units .
Thank you so much!!!
Waking up to a new episode of this and also having dodged the bullet by just recently canceling my order for the drumlogue ❤
You're not the only one to cancel the order;)
At this point I think Korg and Roland have an engineering department in competition to see how fast they can tank their company. They are given incredible capabilities, and yet they want to see how terribly they can be implemented in desktop boxes. Everytime they put something out now it's like thanks we hate it. Florian somehow makes the best Jams regardless it's like Rembrandt using crayons on construction paper 😂.
Thank you so much!!!
@@AudioPilz thank you Florian I always look forward to seeing what you can do with the crap we have piling up around our studios too. 👏
But it does sounds good and seems to be quite a capable machine. With caveats, yes. Hope it will go on sale soon :3
Agreed!
it almost became my bad gear number 37, after 10min youtube demos i had already forgotten it again, although i love bad gear
You dodged that bullet;)
What's the grey piece of gear in the photo? I've been googling "Elektron RTFM MK1", which it says on the faceplate, for ten minutes, and haven't found anything other than a patch with that title of sounds for another drum machine.
It's a meme, just google the RTFM part ;)
Almost Burialogue =D
Also, $299 seems like the going price for drumlogue native =]
Drumlogue native - the horror...;)
I had it, returned it in a week. The sounds aren't half that bad. They're really quite workable. Their layout and sequencer and "hidden under shift" functions however weren't. Close but no cigar.
Yeah, I really wanted to like this!
Pretty good episode once again mr Pilz! First time I see and hear some of what the DrumLogue could do, and made sure I don't need one. Thanks for your time to save me some euro's!
Have you ever considered to make small synth tutorial vids? It took me some searching to learn how to get the most out of the Beatstep pro, for instance. Roland's also have this illness to exclude shortcuts and buttoncombo's from the manuals. Just a thought ;-)
Great suggestion, thanks!!!
Great work as Always, Mr Pilz!Please do an episode on the Yamaha RS 7000 (if you can get your hands on one). It was ahead of it’s time and i wish i could buy one without fear of acquiring a damaged Unit. It‘s super deep too and I wonder what your pros and cons would be. Thanks for considering!
Thank you!!! Great suggestion!
Dammm you Pilzzz! I've been thinking of getting one of these and now I don't know which way is up or down. You can make a thrift store kids toy sound great so it's more confusing than ever. I've seen some vids on line of people making these sound insane, but I guess they are difficult to program like you were saying.
These are actually really easy to use but also very limited
I decided to get Drumbrute Impact for $299, I want my Bad Gear to be Decent Value Gear
Love the Impact!
nice jam2 and your finale's never fail 🥰
Thank you!!!
If you can track down a Korg Micro X that would be a fun episode. It would definitely tick some boxes!
Great suggestion, thanks!!!
You should do one of these on the Analog Rytm. I feel like it's pretty polarizing.
Really, who the hell hates the analog rytm? It and the syntakt are universally beloved. People def hate on some of the other elektron boxes but those two are like the main fan favorites.
@@middaymeds I honestly don't even see many people with Rytms, mostly Octatrack.
Great suggestion, thanks!
@@justink8156thats a sampler
Only thing polarizing about the Rytm is the learning curve. The pads could be better. Other than that, it’s one of the best drum machines ever made.
I was hoping korg would make an advanced digital drum machine that’s similar to machinedrum since I like volca drum a lot, and we got a new bad gear material 💀
It's definitely ticking all the boxes...
No way, is that "No trough road"? Now that's a deep cut.
Great movie!!!
There it is. People were literally calling for the "Day Late Dollar Short 'Logue" to be featured on here 😆
Lol
I don't understand why the screen needs to be so tiny, they had space for a screen that was at least four times the size.
Amazing video, as always!
Thank you! Agreed!
This is everything the Akai Rhythm Wolf could have been. 😂
Lol
Well, it IS Korg, after all...they actually PUT components in it. The Akai "critters" sound more like Akai popped the backs off of those and poured various bits and pieces in 'em with a funnel! Although...the Timbre Wolf still retains some abuse potential if you're shooting for something out of spec, sort of like RDJ's microtonal weirdnesses but you can have that sound right out of the box!
I like my Rhythm Wolf. I even had offers for it to take it out of my hand .. nope! Not gonna happen 😊
@@MurrayDagostino 👍
7:57 - My new motto, always a beacon of it @audiopilz
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Been waiting for this
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how about a 60min bad gear dance party? ..with all these great microwaved 90s cheese deep minimal dub techno jams😎09:08...cheers
Great idea, thanks!!!
this one snuck by me! so much in fact i really hope it did with everyone else and Korg DOES do a massive sell off sale like they did with the SQ-64. i got that sequencer a month ago and fell in love.
Yeah, that firmware update seems to be super powerful!
@@AudioPilz also super painful if you have ever had more than 9 midi devices in your system. Cos why would someone wanting to sequence a bunch of synths with a powerful sequencer have more than 10 midi devices, right?
Very interesting as always. What is the modi key you are using? Does it have a sequencer?
That's a cheap little Arturia...
I'd really love if you looked at the Synthstrom Deluge! I'm a kiwi and it's honestly the pride of our edm production, but it's caught so much flac for being essentially a DAW that uses pads as pixels, I guarantee Klangfarbe has a floor model (because they're so fkn cool) that you could play with that you'd 200% either LOVE or HATE! Anyway, love the content so much, brought me a lot of joy! Keep doing you! ❤️
Also idk as a member of a weird niche country I'm sure you'll enjoy another weird niche country's weird nieche claim to fame 😂 (also: see Filmmaker (musician) who makes all his music on the Deluge! gud stuf)
Controversial opinion: the Deluge is the Kalamata olive of synth/groovebox/drum/wtvrmachines
Great suggestion, thanks!!!
Only kids believe that "workstation" refers specifically to software. IMO anything that can do synthesis, sampling, sequencing, and recording is a DAW.
I actually liked the Drumlogue demos and then wanted one much more after I tried it out in person... Unfortunately for Korg I have just as little money as I do taste.
I'm pretty sure these prices will come down significantly
I just bought one 2 days ago secondhand and got it for around half price. I don’t know that korg has built a korg drum machine since the er-1 -I have this also! The look of the machine is quite appealing!
I am not sure that people’s opinion should be taken as a reflection of bad gear! It is pretty good at a low cost secondhand!
I'd buy that for 299;)
You could buy several er-1’s instead have a slew of decent drum machines. Or get this and have a noise making paperweight
@@joshuamorganmusic the er1 has gone up in value! This still has better sounding tom’s and 4 individual outputs also it has good EFX’s the er1 doesn’t have good EFX!
The ES-1 was amazing. No analog modeling but it can sample and had motion recording and cool rhythmic effects
@@neiel1 I am a bit of an electribe fan! The es-1 run’s circles on th drumlogue the sampling on the drumlogue is pre historic!
Awesome as always. This review is actually more useful than those of most other TH-cam synth channels because of your willingness to (fairly, but with discernible amounts of glee) call out the DrumLogue's shortcomings. I agree with you that Korg made a bitchin' €300 drum machine ;-)
Oh, and while on the subject: can you see your way to reviewing a Korg SQ64?
Thanks!!! Let's see if I can find a way to put the SQ64 on the show...
spot on.. i recently bought one, played with it for an hour, and returned it - a lot of potential, but so many corners cut and questionable decisions made (the output routing is so limiting, sigh..) . love the dub techno jam ( i am a bit biased in that department..) cheers!
Thank you!!!