1. Please watch the whole video before saying anything about Blade Runner in the comments section--I hold off talking about it until the very end. 2. If you're not in the loop, this video was supposed to go up on July 13th, but it got a copyright claim and I didn't have time to re-edit it and re-upload it at the time, so I just disputed it and waited for it to clear.
I was just gonna say how this takes elements from the Novel, infinity welcomes careful drivers, with the crew unknowingly being trapped in their fantasy, ending with lister driving off to be with Kochanski, minus the open ending on whether or not he choses to stay.
Fun fact. During his role on Coronation, Craig Charles received a six month suspension from the show after a scandal emerged that he had blown thousands of pounds binging on both drugs, booze and prostitutes. His final scene before his hiatus was him heading off to the toilet. When he finally returned to Coronation Street after those six months, his opening scene had him returning from the loo. This has gone down as the longest toilet break in TV history.
Its not popular, but I love Back to earth to. I like the rare times when Red Dwarf delivers some pathos, and Craig Charles crying actually made me cry, and I am not too manly to admit that. :P
There was a missed opportunity here to write in a parody of the Roy Batty speech in Blade Runner Lister - I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Getting attacked by human-hating simulants and defeating them in an old west video game. I've shot a planet into the nearest star with a pool cue. I've met, drank with and screwed my female parallel universe double. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in a vindaloo. Time to die? Smeg that, time to live
That reference to Saturday evening programming, pointing at freaks and laughing at them, is a reference to variety shows. Saturday is "variety night" in the UK, and all the shows like Britain's Got Talent, The X Factor, The Voice and Strictly Come Dancing, all air on Saturday
I knew about Britain's Got Talent, but I didn't know what day it aired, so I didn't make the connection. It does sound more along the lines of what Rimmer is describing.
My mum used to work in a load of pubs when she was younger, and one day, she got the honour of serving Chris barrie. That's something she told me when I started getting into red dwarf
Sweet, the video's finally public again! Excellent work as always. :D The only thing I feel I can add about Back to Earth is that the Coronation Street involvement was definitely a lot more of an in-joke for British viewers (maybe slightly too much?). Corrie is the longest running TV soap in UK history - it started in 1960! - and is still incredibly popular, so even people who've never seen the show would be vaguely familiar with a lot of the actors and the titular street itself. Craig Charles was arguably more famous in 2009 for playing Lloyd in Coronation Street than he was for playing Lister in Red Dwarf. A detail Back to Earth doesn't really make clear is that the street, the shop and the pub at the beginning of episode 3 are all just sets, because it's such a permanent production that they decided to use The Truman Show method (sans the baby-kidnapping... as far as I know). You probably picked up on it, but BtE definitely seems to assume you already knew beforehand. I also think Chiggins_ is being way too harsh in his assessment. Coronation Street is on all year but it consistently gets 5-10 million viewers per episode. Saying that some of the most recognizable faces on British TV are "Z-list celebrities" is like saying that Jim Parsons is a nobody just because you hate The Big Bang Theory.
The set they visit is called Coronation Street a very famous soap in England and is filmed where I am from Manchester and they use northern slang in the shop
I think that the Tyrell Naylor character's pretenses of ending the series on a profound and bittersweet note was somewhat intended to reference the way that the final Blackadder series ended. That has been seen as a high watermark for comedic works that want to tie things up with a bit on inverted bathos (silliness becoming serious expectantly). Of course Blackadder is a historical comedy that lends itself well to tragedy, but I like the writer taking a moment to jab at his own pretenses of profundity.
It’s too easy to hate on Back to Earth. Not perfect by any means but I still got a soft spot for it. Plus if it truly was that bad then Dave would never have commissioned the seasons after it, so at the very least it was important for the series future...
16:25 - Hey now, I was watching Red Dwarf when I was three! It had no damaging effects on me....except when I told my playschool teacher to smeg off. Luckily, she was a fan, but she had to have a word with my dad. XD 17:40 - the one time I laughed out loud during the whole special. 19:00 - Yeah, this is the cringe worthy equivalent of Dimensions in Time (the Dr. Who and EastEnders crossover). Soaps and Sci-fi should really stay far away from each other imo. 20:55 - Okay I want that doorbell. I'm kinda with SF Debris on this one, I've only seen Blade Runner once but I still found the references repetitive. I kinda wish they had parodied a mix of sci fi films rather than focusing on one. I did like all the little RD call-backs and easter eggs. Also this paved the way for the reboot seasons which I love so I gotta thank it for that.
I just want to clarify that Dave, while it does show a lot of stuff from the BBC, is not part of the BBC. it's part of a different network called UKTV. Great video anyway as usual!
Ah, I wasn't aware of the others. I was more doing it as a quick FYI (in fact I added the complement bit specifically because I felt like otherwise it came off too much as a nit-picky condescending person, not that the statement doesn't reflect my view of the video)
Interestingly this wasn't strictly true then, and is completely false now. UKTV has always been part owned by the BBC through BBC Worldwide (the commercial part of the BBC that sells BBC shows to broadcasters / networks / streaming platforms in other countries) - the idea behind the UKTV network was originally to show old British TV shows on channels offered as part of a Satellite / Cable TV basic package (later also on digital "freeview" TV) - and later branching out into making their own new shows (which is how Red Dwarf got new episodes after the BBC no longer wanted to make them & after the film failed to get funding) and it would make money from getting a cut of subscriptions & adverts (the BBC doesn't run adverts as it's funded by the TV Liscence). UKTV was essentially founded by BBC Worldwide to commercially exploit old BBC programmes on the (at the time) new TV platforms introduced in the UK during the 90's & they partnered with other TV companies / outside investors to raise funding for the required infrastructure / staffing - BBC supplied the shows, the partners covered the start up / initial running costs & they split the profits. I'm not sure if the BBC was always the majority shareholder in UKTV, or if they first started out as a minor partner in the venture - but it explains why UKTV has always had old BBC shows making up the bulk of its schedules. But now (like literally sometime in the last 1-2 years) UKTV has become wholly owned by BBC Worldwide as they bought out their partners (likely because profits have dropped due to streaming reducing viewers for broadcast TV - and so reducing ad revenue & the commercial investors wanted to cash out). We don't know yet what impact this will have going forward but potentially we could see fewer original programmes from UKTV channels going forward.
I agree with you on liking Back to Earth its obviously not golden era Red Dwarf but its miles miles and miles above Season 8! It felt more like a return to form where the Red Dwarf crew would jump into a situation and get caught up with someone trying to kill them.
So Corrie is a soap opera that airs about 8 times a week and has been going for nearly 60 years. It has like nearly 10,000 episodes and since it's a soap opera, you only need to see one episode to have seen all of them. They're all badly written and acted. But yeah, that dude and the girl in the shop are both actors in Corrie. They were on the set on the day Red Dwarf recorded there and were asked if they wanted to appear. You say they're "well known British actors", but nah, they're not. They're like, Z-list celebrities famous for being in Corrie and nothing else
for the people not from UK/Ireland, the other show is Coronation Street. it is the worlds longest Soap Opera from 1960 to present day(yes. much longer than the simpsons and WWE). The show is set around the west side of Manchester in the fictional area known as Coronation Street. The "friend" of Craig is Simon Gregson who plays Steve McDonald in the show. I found it hilarious when they did the Manchester accents while talking Michelle Keegan(another cast memeber in Coronation Street) in the shop
Back when I watched it as it aired, I enjoyed Part 1 since we got Red Dwarf back, but was put off by Part 2 and mostly Part 3 up until the reveal, since I've never been a fan of the 'go to real world and find out they're fictional' story element in things, and the Blade Runner references weirded me out since I didn't see that till years later. But after rewatching it (and seeing Blade Runner too) I learned to appreciate it more than ever, especially since it gave us several more series to love. One of those cases where it takes a while to come to grips with it, and by now I enjoy it the same as every other series. ^^
20:50 Reminds me of that level in The Simpsons Game where the Simpson family goes to Matt Groening's house and they need to play the Simpsons theme to enter.
Back to Earth was disappointing on first viewing, but now close to a favourite. It seemed such a departure from the regular type of stories, even though it really wasn't; more a big concept episode stretched over three parts. If I have a couple of hours free, Back to Earth is something that I can put on without any regrets. Oh, and I enjoy the Blade Runner call-backs, even having seen BR multiple times, in all of it's different iterations.
Your comment about the kids on the bus made me laugh, only because I started watching it with my dad in 94/95 when I was only 6 or 7. So many jokes went straight over my head until I re watched it much later in life.
Holy smeg. If you look carefully during the bunk scenes, you can see that old photo of Listers grandmother from waaaay back in Future Echos above his bed. That's some damn fine continuity!
I always wondered why in 9 year since we saw them last Kochanski hadn’t found a way back to her own dimension? That would’ve been an easier way to explain her absence, and Lister would still be sad because there is no Kochanski in his dimension. I figured the nanos didn’t bring her back when they remade Red Dwarf because they knew she already existed.
To be honest, the whole "Rimmer's got music to listen to" thing was riDICulous and forced. At NO POINT in the show's history has Rimmer ever been in charge of watching a console of any kind, and then started listening to loud music, while finger dancing and ignoring the pleas of his shipmates! Although he could be a bit cowardly at times, and has recommended having panic attacks under scanner tables, he was always where he needed to be when he needed to be there in a pinch. He even tried to take out their future selves in an attempt to save all of their lives. Now I'm expected to believe that he has turned into a nerdly teenager sitting in his room, daydreaming about his most recent school boy crush...while his friends DIE below him! Come on.... Although YOUR line...suddenly, testicles everywhere was TOP NOTCH! ha ha ha
The Creator is played by the same actor that plays Hogey the Roguey (chase you through time and space) in the next season. His voice is quite distinctive.
The set where they crash though the glass is very impressive created just for the show on a shoestring budget shows what the BBC is capable of when it tires
I certainly wouldn't call Back to Earth a favourite episode by a long shot, but looking back, there were still some pretty funny gags. What made it extra-weird for me is that both They Walk Among Us and the mall where they first land on Earth were both places I used to visit as a teenager.
I remember at the time being disappointed, because it wasn't the same old comfortable pyjamas. This is the first I've seen of it since then, and it's a lot better than S7 and 8!
I suspect a lot of the hate directed at this episode comes from Internet exaggeration. All the fans I've spoken to IRL have said they don't mind it and I think there's a lot to like about it. There are some really funny jokes, the cast are great and it looks far more expensive than it was. My biggest complaint is that the Blade Runner bits felt a bit too much like, "Hey, we're doing that bit from Blade Runner!" and it goes on for ages.
"Beg their creator for more life..." Oddly, the first thing that came to mind was Prometheus. Blade Runner occurred later. Ridley Scott uses that plot device a lot.
@@Cyborcat I like how much you like Cat! My absolute favourite is Lister, and Cat, while iconic to me as one of the main four, was more flavour/scenery and I had never noticed all the little details until I watched your wonderful Cat videos. I appreciate Danny so much more now.
16:52 I watched Red Dwarf when I was their age even though some VHS tapes had 12 or 15 certificates. 19:26 I used to watch Coronation Street up until just a few months ago, where I got bored with it in the end.
I’ve been watching your RD videos and I’ve really enjoyed them. I’ve been a fan of the Small Rouge One since the start (or The End if you like) back in 1988. I was 11 and it has me hooked from Day 1. Did you know that another film that influenced the show was John Carpenter’s Dark Star? Maybe you’ve already mentioned it and I’ve missed it. Keep up the good work. You’ve done the Dwarfers proud.
Back to Earth is easily the weakest installment of the Dave era... But even then, it's still damn fun. The actors were having a blast playing their most iconic roles again, and the story itself is a genuinely fascinating outing and solid companion piece to "Back to Reality", the best episode of the entire show. What keeps it from being as good as what follows in the Dave era is that the miniseries drags when they get to the Coronation Street filming set, and the lack of a live audience is very noticeable. Still, not a bad start to the era when Red Dwarf found its stride again. [Series X and beyond are much better, tho]
I too get a kick out of "Space Cop Police Squad" probably not for the same reasons though. Who knoww? It could actually be quite deep and fun, If watching Anime and playing games have taught me anything, sexy police ladies tend to be awesome.
Great vlog , I myself enjoyed parts of Back to Earth and have to thank it as without it we probably wouldn't have series 10 etc. However I found when it moved to Dave the adverts broke up the flow of the show a little too much. Could be just me but that's what opinions are for I guess.
As someone who saw the Final Cut of Blade Runner in theaters, Back to Earth was not distracting when it came to references. It might be due to having grown up wit some of the other ones they used over the seasons prior.
The freak show reference Rimmer makes is most likely a comment on inane talent contest programs like Britain's Got Talent or X Factor some of which literally look and feel like 18th century exercises in public derision the way acts are paraded before a baying audience that either cheer or mock them. I'm really not a fan of Back to Earth, number one cos as per usual Doug Naylor does nothing to properly address the previous series' cliffhanger as if hoping everyone will just have forgotten it especially since it had been a decade since it happened in this case and number two cos when a show starts getting meta it undermines the conceit of the world itself when you start having nods and winks to real life so the less said about this episode the better for me frankly.
I agree that Back to Earth isn't nearly as bad as popular opinion (it's far better than Series VIII and most of Series VII, for example), and it does feel like the Red Dwarf movie. I think it runs closer to 1h 20m played consecutively.
My opinion...They should have used this to properly end the series. It kind of does-but it a similar way to "Only the Good"" where it doesn't really feel like it. A somewhat soft reboot. I hate to say it, but Red Dwarf for me has entered Supernatural/Simpsons territory of maybe being on too long for its own good.
Ah good, it's back up on the Tube. I think Back to Earth is alright . . . as a 70 minute feature. When it was first broadcast, it didn't work in three parts because the pacing felt fucked. It wasn't what we long time fans waited for after 10 years absence, yet considering it was made for no money, I do like it. Series 11 and 12 though? Eek
Was about to write a comment bout how DAVE wasn't a BBC show, but thought I'd google it just to be safe. And damn it is owned by the BBC. I've just never heard it called "BBC DAVE". It's just called DAVE.
@@Cyborcat well after the it's cold outside theme, (the main closing theme) there was like another track running through the rest of the end credits right up to the final scene where the type writer said the end.
As someone who loves this episode (much as I admit to being a minority with this view) thought I would just came back to this and point out the awful, evil act the BBC has done. "All Red Dwarf episodes now on Iplayer!" really? Then where is back to earth? Oh right. The BBC have pretended this episode doesnt exist and has not put it on Iplayer. For shame.
Hmm, not really. There were a couple instances in season 7 where Kochanski was trying to meet up with them, so it's kind of implied that they were looking for her, but it seemed to be forgotten about after that.
I suspect knowing blade runner might be detrimental to enjoying this episode. I personally found the references cringy. Besides, I was always under the impression that things like Alien and Dark Star were much bigger influences on this show than Blade Runner ever was.
At 10:55 you mention you think they are referring to SNL. I think they are referring to those terrible Brittan's Got Talent / American Idol shows. Makes a lot more sense with the context.
"The channel's name was chosen with a UKTV saying that 'everyone knows a bloke called Dave'" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_(TV_channel) "'Changing the channel name to Dave,' reasons station head Steven North, 'enables us to create a strong and noisy personality for the channel that immediately aligns us with our core 16-34 male audience. Daves are seething, indignant cab drivers, wryly deified by Will Self in The Book Of Dave.'" www.theguardian.com/culture/tvandradioblog/2007/sep/26/achannelcalleddave
@@Cyborcat when the channel was launched they had an ad+everytime the channels name was said they would show lister. That's why the kids on the bus reference it. It was also said it wasn't for girls, it had lots of megaprojects,robot wars (also hosted by Craig Charles at the time)+top gear. A night in with the boys! Otherwise the kids reference would make no sence. It was only about a year before back to earth was on so it was probably being filmed around launch time. Meta. I'm just saying how we (the public) where shown.
Man, I thought the pinned comment was going to have something about “Yeah yeah I know about The Promised Land.” to address “This is the closest Red Dwarf will ever get to a movie.”, especially because it was an edited comment. Considering it’s a mid-2018 video I could imagine The Promised Land being announced considering Doctor Who’s return was announced in 2003 for 2005. But, I guess it wasn’t, and that’s fine.
I’ll need to check the credits but I swear the creator guy sounds and sort of looks just like hogey the roguey from The Beginning in series 10... anyone else?
Ah, that’s cool, thank you! Also, last night Danny John-Jules had his first night on Strictly Come Dancing! (a dance competition programme here in the UK) Have you heard about this?
Lol "What language is this?" That's Northern..... (good job it's only mildly Northern because it can get pretty hard to understand unless you can stand in 6 inches of snow in just a t-shirt)
1. Please watch the whole video before saying anything about Blade Runner in the comments section--I hold off talking about it until the very end.
2. If you're not in the loop, this video was supposed to go up on July 13th, but it got a copyright claim and I didn't have time to re-edit it and re-upload it at the time, so I just disputed it and waited for it to clear.
I was just gonna say how this takes elements from the Novel, infinity welcomes careful drivers, with the crew unknowingly being trapped in their fantasy, ending with lister driving off to be with Kochanski, minus the open ending on whether or not he choses to stay.
UK TV is a lot more aggressive when it comes to copyright than BBC
I kinda like Back to Earth
The Saturday Night show IS Red Dwarf. It ran opposite of SNL on KERA every Saturday.
whats the song from the carbug scene at the end of episode 2?
Fun fact. During his role on Coronation, Craig Charles received a six month suspension from the show after a scandal emerged that he had blown thousands of pounds binging on both drugs, booze and prostitutes. His final scene before his hiatus was him heading off to the toilet. When he finally returned to Coronation Street after those six months, his opening scene had him returning from the loo. This has gone down as the longest toilet break in TV history.
Vindaloo: Not even once.
I'm imagining that entire comment in the voice of Norman Lovett.
invader zim was cackling in the toilet for 6 years
Thank you for this.
And was it true? Unlikely.
Glad to know I'm not the only Red Dwarf fan that loves Back to Earth
Two of you then. 😆
Its not popular, but I love Back to earth to. I like the rare times when Red Dwarf delivers some pathos, and Craig Charles crying actually made me cry, and I am not too manly to admit that. :P
There was a missed opportunity here to write in a parody of the Roy Batty speech in Blade Runner
Lister - I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Getting attacked by human-hating simulants and defeating them in an old west video game. I've shot a planet into the nearest star with a pool cue. I've met, drank with and screwed my female parallel universe double. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in a vindaloo. Time to die? Smeg that, time to live
That's one of my favorite movie scenes and your take on it is brilliant! RIP Rutger ...
That reference to Saturday evening programming, pointing at freaks and laughing at them, is a reference to variety shows. Saturday is "variety night" in the UK, and all the shows like Britain's Got Talent, The X Factor, The Voice and Strictly Come Dancing, all air on Saturday
I knew about Britain's Got Talent, but I didn't know what day it aired, so I didn't make the connection. It does sound more along the lines of what Rimmer is describing.
Craig was in the British SNL
@@Cyborcat Also, I put my discs back in the box, WITHOUT fail, I assure you...!
I saw Blade Runner about half a decade before Back To Earth. That's about enough time for it not to feel repetitive, but still get all the references.
Maybe the fake creator wanted them to have beautiful deaths because it was the finale. Like how each finale of FUTURAMA usually ends on a tear-jerker.
Good point.
The reef of holly on the tv at 13:26 was a nice touch that goes in noticed
Well, shit, I totally missed that one.
My mum used to work in a load of pubs when she was younger, and one day, she got the honour of serving Chris barrie. That's something she told me when I started getting into red dwarf
Sweet, the video's finally public again! Excellent work as always. :D
The only thing I feel I can add about Back to Earth is that the Coronation Street involvement was definitely a lot more of an in-joke for British viewers (maybe slightly too much?). Corrie is the longest running TV soap in UK history - it started in 1960! - and is still incredibly popular, so even people who've never seen the show would be vaguely familiar with a lot of the actors and the titular street itself. Craig Charles was arguably more famous in 2009 for playing Lloyd in Coronation Street than he was for playing Lister in Red Dwarf.
A detail Back to Earth doesn't really make clear is that the street, the shop and the pub at the beginning of episode 3 are all just sets, because it's such a permanent production that they decided to use The Truman Show method (sans the baby-kidnapping... as far as I know). You probably picked up on it, but BtE definitely seems to assume you already knew beforehand.
I also think Chiggins_ is being way too harsh in his assessment. Coronation Street is on all year but it consistently gets 5-10 million viewers per episode. Saying that some of the most recognizable faces on British TV are "Z-list celebrities" is like saying that Jim Parsons is a nobody just because you hate The Big Bang Theory.
The set they visit is called Coronation Street a very famous soap in England and is filmed where I am from Manchester and they use northern slang in the shop
Instead of "Astronavigation For Idiots", it should of been "Astronavigation For Smegheads"
I think that the Tyrell Naylor character's pretenses of ending the series on a profound and bittersweet note was somewhat intended to reference the way that the final Blackadder series ended. That has been seen as a high watermark for comedic works that want to tie things up with a bit on inverted bathos (silliness becoming serious expectantly).
Of course Blackadder is a historical comedy that lends itself well to tragedy, but I like the writer taking a moment to jab at his own pretenses of profundity.
It was me John TYRRELL.
The ONLY reason that I know ANYTHING about Coronation Street is due to Caddicarus' mental breakdown over the video game of it XD
"I swear he's going to get them killed one day"
Well he already killed crew.
Rimmer just took her out, >:)>
he said: mind that bus. what bus? SPLAT!!!
It’s too easy to hate on Back to Earth. Not perfect by any means but I still got a soft spot for it. Plus if it truly was that bad then Dave would never have commissioned the seasons after it, so at the very least it was important for the series future...
16:25 - Hey now, I was watching Red Dwarf when I was three! It had no damaging effects on me....except when I told my playschool teacher to smeg off. Luckily, she was a fan, but she had to have a word with my dad. XD
17:40 - the one time I laughed out loud during the whole special.
19:00 - Yeah, this is the cringe worthy equivalent of Dimensions in Time (the Dr. Who and EastEnders crossover). Soaps and Sci-fi should really stay far away from each other imo.
20:55 - Okay I want that doorbell.
I'm kinda with SF Debris on this one, I've only seen Blade Runner once but I still found the references repetitive. I kinda wish they had parodied a mix of sci fi films rather than focusing on one. I did like all the little RD call-backs and easter eggs. Also this paved the way for the reboot seasons which I love so I gotta thank it for that.
I just want to clarify that Dave, while it does show a lot of stuff from the BBC, is not part of the BBC. it's part of a different network called UKTV.
Great video anyway as usual!
Yeah, I've had a couple people point that out already. At least you weren't jerkish about it, tho, which I appreciate.
Ah, I wasn't aware of the others. I was more doing it as a quick FYI (in fact I added the complement bit specifically because I felt like otherwise it came off too much as a nit-picky condescending person, not that the statement doesn't reflect my view of the video)
Interestingly this wasn't strictly true then, and is completely false now.
UKTV has always been part owned by the BBC through BBC Worldwide (the commercial part of the BBC that sells BBC shows to broadcasters / networks / streaming platforms in other countries) - the idea behind the UKTV network was originally to show old British TV shows on channels offered as part of a Satellite / Cable TV basic package (later also on digital "freeview" TV) - and later branching out into making their own new shows (which is how Red Dwarf got new episodes after the BBC no longer wanted to make them & after the film failed to get funding) and it would make money from getting a cut of subscriptions & adverts (the BBC doesn't run adverts as it's funded by the TV Liscence).
UKTV was essentially founded by BBC Worldwide to commercially exploit old BBC programmes on the (at the time) new TV platforms introduced in the UK during the 90's & they partnered with other TV companies / outside investors to raise funding for the required infrastructure / staffing - BBC supplied the shows, the partners covered the start up / initial running costs & they split the profits.
I'm not sure if the BBC was always the majority shareholder in UKTV, or if they first started out as a minor partner in the venture - but it explains why UKTV has always had old BBC shows making up the bulk of its schedules.
But now (like literally sometime in the last 1-2 years) UKTV has become wholly owned by BBC Worldwide as they bought out their partners (likely because profits have dropped due to streaming reducing viewers for broadcast TV - and so reducing ad revenue & the commercial investors wanted to cash out).
We don't know yet what impact this will have going forward but potentially we could see fewer original programmes from UKTV channels going forward.
No, UKTV is part of the BBC, but a subdivision aimed at the larger commercial TV sector, like BBC Enterprises.
at 5:40 "Suddenly, testicles everywhere..." I wouldn't know what squid testicles look like...
“Suddenly testicles everywhere..”
I agree with you on liking Back to Earth its obviously not golden era Red Dwarf but its miles miles and miles above Season 8! It felt more like a return to form where the Red Dwarf crew would jump into a situation and get caught up with someone trying to kill them.
I can't get over how much of a missed opportunity it would be for them to name the fake creator Grant Naylor
Come to think of it, that would have been a nice touch. XD
So Corrie is a soap opera that airs about 8 times a week and has been going for nearly 60 years. It has like nearly 10,000 episodes and since it's a soap opera, you only need to see one episode to have seen all of them. They're all badly written and acted. But yeah, that dude and the girl in the shop are both actors in Corrie. They were on the set on the day Red Dwarf recorded there and were asked if they wanted to appear. You say they're "well known British actors", but nah, they're not. They're like, Z-list celebrities famous for being in Corrie and nothing else
for the people not from UK/Ireland, the other show is Coronation Street. it is the worlds longest Soap Opera from 1960 to present day(yes. much longer than the simpsons and WWE). The show is set around the west side of Manchester in the fictional area known as Coronation Street.
The "friend" of Craig is Simon Gregson who plays Steve McDonald in the show. I found it hilarious when they did the Manchester accents while talking Michelle Keegan(another cast memeber in Coronation Street) in the shop
WWE = soap opera... nice dig lol
Back when I watched it as it aired, I enjoyed Part 1 since we got Red Dwarf back, but was put off by Part 2 and mostly Part 3 up until the reveal, since I've never been a fan of the 'go to real world and find out they're fictional' story element in things, and the Blade Runner references weirded me out since I didn't see that till years later. But after rewatching it (and seeing Blade Runner too) I learned to appreciate it more than ever, especially since it gave us several more series to love. One of those cases where it takes a while to come to grips with it, and by now I enjoy it the same as every other series. ^^
20:50 Reminds me of that level in The Simpsons Game where the Simpson family goes to Matt Groening's house and they need to play the Simpsons theme to enter.
The channel ‘Dave’ was actually named after Dave lister, 1st thing they showed was a Red Dwarf marathon.
Back to Earth was disappointing on first viewing, but now close to a favourite. It seemed such a departure from the regular type of stories, even though it really wasn't; more a big concept episode stretched over three parts. If I have a couple of hours free, Back to Earth is something that I can put on without any regrets. Oh, and I enjoy the Blade Runner call-backs, even having seen BR multiple times, in all of it's different iterations.
When filming the carbug scene they managed to lock the keys in the car
Love how they show that in the behind the scenes and Danny John-Jules says "Modern technology!" with Cat's voice.
"Suddenly, testicles everywhere" is how I wish more of my weekends went
Your comment about the kids on the bus made me laugh, only because I started watching it with my dad in 94/95 when I was only 6 or 7. So many jokes went straight over my head until I re watched it much later in life.
fun fact: kryten is 200% adorable in this season
his,, widdle water wings, i can't
Holy smeg. If you look carefully during the bunk scenes, you can see that old photo of Listers grandmother from waaaay back in Future Echos above his bed. That's some damn fine continuity!
Wow, you're right XD
I always wondered why in 9 year since we saw them last Kochanski hadn’t found a way back to her own dimension? That would’ve been an easier way to explain her absence, and Lister would still be sad because there is no Kochanski in his dimension.
I figured the nanos didn’t bring her back when they remade Red Dwarf because they knew she already existed.
Because the creators intended to bring her back, it just hasn't worked out so far.
I'm pretty positive that the ending of this was a reference to the "Infinity Welcomes Careful Drivers" book.
Fantastic! I've been waiting forever , youtube!
To be honest, the whole "Rimmer's got music to listen to" thing was riDICulous and forced. At NO POINT in the show's history has Rimmer ever been in charge of watching a console of any kind, and then started listening to loud music, while finger dancing and ignoring the pleas of his shipmates! Although he could be a bit cowardly at times, and has recommended having panic attacks under scanner tables, he was always where he needed to be when he needed to be there in a pinch. He even tried to take out their future selves in an attempt to save all of their lives. Now I'm expected to believe that he has turned into a nerdly teenager sitting in his room, daydreaming about his most recent school boy crush...while his friends DIE below him! Come on....
Although YOUR line...suddenly, testicles everywhere was TOP NOTCH! ha ha ha
The customer who didn't like red dwarf was in the original Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy miniseries. I'll never forget that helmet hair.
The Creator is played by the same actor that plays Hogey the Roguey (chase you through time and space) in the next season. His voice is quite distinctive.
Yep. I probably waited until he came back to mention it.
16:57 lmao, my mum kinda showed me Red Dwarf at 7
The set where they crash though the glass is very impressive created just for the show on a shoestring budget shows what the BBC is capable of when it tires
Yes, I made a mistake and said "BBC Dave".
It's not worth getting butthurt over.
I just thought it was funny (if ever watched dave it most shows reruns of bbc shows)
@@bladeD02 That's fine. Just some people were pitching a fit over it like I insulted their mother, and it was getting old.
lol :)
It's worth noting that Dave rescued Red Dwarf after the BBC threw it u der the bus.
Cyborcat. BBC? Yep, that describes Dave Lister perfectly. Ohhhhh...you meant the British Broadcasting Corporation. Riiiiight!
I certainly wouldn't call Back to Earth a favourite episode by a long shot, but looking back, there were still some pretty funny gags. What made it extra-weird for me is that both They Walk Among Us and the mall where they first land on Earth were both places I used to visit as a teenager.
I remember at the time being disappointed, because it wasn't the same old comfortable pyjamas. This is the first I've seen of it since then, and it's a lot better than S7 and 8!
I loved the blade runner references. They were pretty well done
I suspect a lot of the hate directed at this episode comes from Internet exaggeration. All the fans I've spoken to IRL have said they don't mind it and I think there's a lot to like about it. There are some really funny jokes, the cast are great and it looks far more expensive than it was. My biggest complaint is that the Blade Runner bits felt a bit too much like, "Hey, we're doing that bit from Blade Runner!" and it goes on for ages.
Some episodes aren't as great as others, but Timewave was on another level in terms of smegging terrible
20:41 Nice little reference to Craig's rehab.
I hadn't even thought of it that way XD
"Beg their creator for more life..." Oddly, the first thing that came to mind was Prometheus. Blade Runner occurred later. Ridley Scott uses that plot device a lot.
Yes, Bladerunner clears up MUCH about this. The origami gives it away immediately.
It's a bit of a shame you hadn't seen it first. But it happens.
I did watch Blade Runner before doing the recap at the end, so I was able to go back and talk about the references.
I had never noticed Kryten's reaction to them talking about Kochanski's death until this. Also I've just binged all of these up to here. I love them!
Thanks, glad you like 'em ^.^
@@Cyborcat I like how much you like Cat! My absolute favourite is Lister, and Cat, while iconic to me as one of the main four, was more flavour/scenery and I had never noticed all the little details until I watched your wonderful Cat videos. I appreciate Danny so much more now.
26:39 A Bladerunner reference. The ending in the theater version that I H-A-T-E-D!
11:02 The British show that they were talking about WAS ALSO CALLED "Saturday Night Live."
That's too funny.
@@Cyborcat I think Craig Charles was one of the regulars, which would make this an "inside joke."
I haven't seen Blade Runner either so the recap at the end is helpful for me.
Ah, finally. Yeah I watched this on Twitch but it's nice to have it back on here.
Shergar was race horse stolen and held to ransom by IRA in the early 80's.
need this on DVD!
@10:43 - Yeah, he's a GOOD Bye ;) lol
16:52 I watched Red Dwarf when I was their age even though some VHS tapes had 12 or 15 certificates. 19:26 I used to watch Coronation Street up until just a few months ago, where I got bored with it in the end.
Glad the kids are old enough to watch this vlog... ;)
I'd like to see future episodes where they come across the American pilot Red Dwarf crew 😮.
I’ve been watching your RD videos and I’ve really enjoyed them. I’ve been a fan of the Small Rouge One since the start (or The End if you like) back in 1988. I was 11 and it has me hooked from Day 1.
Did you know that another film that influenced the show was John Carpenter’s Dark Star? Maybe you’ve already mentioned it and I’ve missed it.
Keep up the good work. You’ve done the Dwarfers proud.
Don't think I'd heard of that one, maybe I'll check it out.
Glad you like the videos ^.^
@@Cyborcat You should give Dark Star a watch. It’s a great film. Very funny.
Glad I am not the only one who loves back to earth
Same ^.^
Back to Earth is easily the weakest installment of the Dave era... But even then, it's still damn fun. The actors were having a blast playing their most iconic roles again, and the story itself is a genuinely fascinating outing and solid companion piece to "Back to Reality", the best episode of the entire show. What keeps it from being as good as what follows in the Dave era is that the miniseries drags when they get to the Coronation Street filming set, and the lack of a live audience is very noticeable. Still, not a bad start to the era when Red Dwarf found its stride again.
[Series X and beyond are much better, tho]
I too get a kick out of "Space Cop Police Squad" probably not for the same reasons though.
Who knoww? It could actually be quite deep and fun, If watching Anime and playing games have taught me anything, sexy police ladies tend to be awesome.
I love Back To Earth.
Always nice to hear from other people who like it ^.^
Great vlog ,
I myself enjoyed parts of Back to Earth and have to thank it as without it we probably wouldn't have series 10 etc.
However I found when it moved to Dave the adverts broke up the flow of the show a little too much. Could be just me but that's what opinions are for I guess.
As someone who saw the Final Cut of Blade Runner in theaters, Back to Earth was not distracting when it came to references. It might be due to having grown up wit some of the other ones they used over the seasons prior.
Also seeing Lister in tears, oh my heart. I dunno it's really affecting.
The freak show reference Rimmer makes is most likely a comment on inane talent contest programs like Britain's Got Talent or X Factor some of which literally look and feel like 18th century exercises in public derision the way acts are paraded before a baying audience that either cheer or mock them. I'm really not a fan of Back to Earth, number one cos as per usual Doug Naylor does nothing to properly address the previous series' cliffhanger as if hoping everyone will just have forgotten it especially since it had been a decade since it happened in this case and number two cos when a show starts getting meta it undermines the conceit of the world itself when you start having nods and winks to real life so the less said about this episode the better for me frankly.
The show they go to is coronation Street. It's only the longest running soap opera in the world
Pretty sure we don't get it in the US.
@@Cyborcat yeah it's only in the UK. The main theme tune is the most British theme tune ever
Simon gregson Steve McDonald from coronation street was the guy who spotted them
It’s not bbc Dave just Dave but great video!
I agree that Back to Earth isn't nearly as bad as popular opinion (it's far better than Series VIII and most of Series VII, for example), and it does feel like the Red Dwarf movie. I think it runs closer to 1h 20m played consecutively.
Series xiii doesn’t exist yet
@@callinater6133 oops! I meant VIII
Fun fact the actress who played Katarina Sophie Winkleman is the half sister of strictly come dancing presenter Claudia Winkleman.
I knew it was sort of based off blade runner I haven't seen it but still loved this episode thanks for comparing the scenes
Fun facts. The guy in the store was in Downton Abbey as was Series one Todhunter
My opinion...They should have used this to properly end the series. It kind of does-but it a similar way to "Only the Good"" where it doesn't really feel like it. A somewhat soft reboot. I hate to say it, but Red Dwarf for me has entered Supernatural/Simpsons territory of maybe being on too long for its own good.
I disagree, season 12 is up there with 1-6 imo, one of my favourites for sure
I actually thought episode 1 of back to earth was pretty boring, despite the great grave scene
It is a bit slow.
Ah good, it's back up on the Tube. I think Back to Earth is alright . . . as a 70 minute feature. When it was first broadcast, it didn't work in three parts because the pacing felt fucked. It wasn't what we long time fans waited for after 10 years absence, yet considering it was made for no money, I do like it.
Series 11 and 12 though? Eek
Lazily written. It does have one moving scene. And I’m guessing you can work out which one.
Was about to write a comment bout how DAVE wasn't a BBC show, but thought I'd google it just to be safe. And damn it is owned by the BBC. I've just never heard it called "BBC DAVE". It's just called DAVE.
Uh oh…don’t let Rimmer anywhere near Wattpad, he’s better off not knowing
The line at the end about a movie probably never happening didn't age well lol. Just had to say it. I'm new to watching this Cyborcat Red Dwarf vids.
What was the track at the end credits after the main closing theme? I can't seem to find it anywhere
AFTER the main closing theme? That's the only song playing through the credits. I must be confused--time stamp?
@@Cyborcat well after the it's cold outside theme, (the main closing theme) there was like another track running through the rest of the end credits right up to the final scene where the type writer said the end.
Oh, you're talking about the show itself, not my video. Sorry, I don't remember.
That's ok. Thanks anyway
I like back to earth better than season 8. So i can give it a pass.
It's definitely got that going for it.
As someone who loves this episode (much as I admit to being a minority with this view) thought I would just came back to this and point out the awful, evil act the BBC has done. "All Red Dwarf episodes now on Iplayer!" really? Then where is back to earth? Oh right. The BBC have pretended this episode doesnt exist and has not put it on Iplayer. For shame.
Oh, that's messed up.
What do you mean these kids aren't old enough to watch Red Dwarf? They can speak can't they?
And once again, someone takes that half-joke too seriously. That totally hasn't gotten old.
@@Cyborcat - Unrelated but have they ever mentioned about the Red Dwarf crew from Kochanski's original dimension trying to find a way to get her?
Hmm, not really. There were a couple instances in season 7 where Kochanski was trying to meet up with them, so it's kind of implied that they were looking for her, but it seemed to be forgotten about after that.
I wonder if House of Cards got that subway pushing scene idea from this.
The actor playing the cat is in strictly come dancing at the moment he’s doing well ,of course.
Remember it's the creator's idea of what's beautiful and tragic 30:51
I suspect knowing blade runner might be detrimental to enjoying this episode. I personally found the references cringy. Besides, I was always under the impression that things like Alien and Dark Star were much bigger influences on this show than Blade Runner ever was.
I was about their age when I first got into Red Dwarf
At 10:55 you mention you think they are referring to SNL. I think they are referring to those terrible Brittan's Got Talent / American Idol shows. Makes a lot more sense with the context.
No, I specifically said that it made ME think of SNL but that they probably had some British show in mind.
@@Cyborcat I guess I could have improved the wording but I was just trying to let you know what they were referencing.
Fair enough.
BBC DAVE is literally name after Lister.🤣🏴
Even I know that it's not.
@@Cyborcat I promise you 10000000% it is.
"The channel's name was chosen with a UKTV saying that 'everyone knows a bloke called Dave'"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_(TV_channel)
"'Changing the channel name to Dave,' reasons station head Steven North, 'enables us to create a strong and noisy personality for the channel that immediately aligns us with our core 16-34 male audience. Daves are seething, indignant cab drivers, wryly deified by Will Self in The Book Of Dave.'"
www.theguardian.com/culture/tvandradioblog/2007/sep/26/achannelcalleddave
@@Cyborcat when the channel was launched they had an ad+everytime the channels name was said they would show lister. That's why the kids on the bus reference it. It was also said it wasn't for girls, it had lots of megaprojects,robot wars (also hosted by Craig Charles at the time)+top gear. A night in with the boys! Otherwise the kids reference would make no sence. It was only about a year before back to earth was on so it was probably being filmed around launch time. Meta. I'm just saying how we (the public) where shown.
the whole cast just seems so tired though out all this
Man, I thought the pinned comment was going to have something about “Yeah yeah I know about The Promised Land.” to address “This is the closest Red Dwarf will ever get to a movie.”, especially because it was an edited comment. Considering it’s a mid-2018 video I could imagine The Promised Land being announced considering Doctor Who’s return was announced in 2003 for 2005. But, I guess it wasn’t, and that’s fine.
I’ll need to check the credits but I swear the creator guy sounds and sort of looks just like hogey the roguey from The Beginning in series 10... anyone else?
Yep, that's him. I remember reading it awhile back ^.^
Ah, that’s cool, thank you!
Also, last night Danny John-Jules had his first night on Strictly Come Dancing! (a dance competition programme here in the UK) Have you heard about this?
Yep, the channel "Ace Rimmer" uploaded some clips.
Lol "What language is this?"
That's Northern..... (good job it's only mildly Northern because it can get pretty hard to understand unless you can stand in 6 inches of snow in just a t-shirt)