Arthur Grumiaux : Vitali, Chaconne

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  • Tommaso Vitali, Chaconne in g minor.
    Arthur Grumiaux, violin.
    Riccardo Castagnone, piano
    Amsterdam, july 1956 (mono recording)
    If you want to buy it :
    It's available on this cd :
    www.arkivmusic.com/classical/a...
    or on this one :
    www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.a...
    this cd is also available on itunes :
    itunes.apple.com/fr/album/vio...
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ความคิดเห็น • 64

  • @venusianagent
    @venusianagent  12 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I think the purpose is not to define which one is the greatest
    (what "great" means ?) but why I love one version or another.
    We can often read on youtube : the best ever, the greatest of all time of the universe...
    Life and music aren't hit-parades. We all have different sensibilities...
    In this case the purpose was to make this version available to listening because it exists, I really love it and it wasn't on youtube. Enjoy !

    • @marthalozanoandraka6400
      @marthalozanoandraka6400 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Coincido, no es una competencia de virtuosos, todos son inigualables e irrepetibles, en base a esta hermosa interpretación efectivamente no es conocida y es una obra maestra para cualquiera que tenga el privilegio de encontrarla y disfrutarla, gracias por compartir, bendiciones...🌹

    • @H.Pierre0
      @H.Pierre0 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thx a lot! To go even further, all that is perceived from the outside is specific to each, and therefore cannot be compared.

  • @bastiatintheandes4958
    @bastiatintheandes4958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Divine rendition. Such grace (after all the chaconne is a dance) and sense musical discourse.

  • @D4rthsunny
    @D4rthsunny 10 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    he's got a really gentle sound.

  • @fatiflowero5388
    @fatiflowero5388 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What true artist you are!! Didn’t want u to stop playing!!

  • @SomeAnimeOtaku
    @SomeAnimeOtaku 12 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really can't tell wich Chaconne of the greats is the greatest. They all have there own very unique and wonderful beauty to it :)

  • @farzangarmkhorani2270
    @farzangarmkhorani2270 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No any other violinist in the world's sound quality, phrasing, dominancy
    and sonority count to my ears when Arthur Grumiaux starts playing the
    Violin; No doubt he was the BEST Violinist of the 20th Century.

  • @toshiakihosoi2158
    @toshiakihosoi2158 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ビブラートがさざ波のようで、とてもきれい。大自然を空想しながら聴くと気持ちがいい。アルチュールって、あの詩人と同じ名前だよね。関係ないけど・・・。個人的な感想だけど、名演は詩情が伴っていないと生まれてこない。絵画を鑑賞するのも同じだと思います。異論はあるだろうけど、子供では無理です。

  • @judyeaton1039
    @judyeaton1039 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of my idols growing up. Wore out his Mozart recordings. I haven''t heard this version of this piece.

  • @BernardViolinTeacher
    @BernardViolinTeacher 12 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Wonderful recording. He played this on his Guarneri that he played before acquiring the General Dupont Strad which was used on his Phillips recordings.

    • @nilsfrederking62
      @nilsfrederking62 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the information, I love his Guarneri sound.

  • @4musikable
    @4musikable 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I needed this today - the heart is indeed a lonely hunter. Thank you.

  • @yukaviguier9396
    @yukaviguier9396 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    C'est vraiment beau.

  • @venusianagent
    @venusianagent  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this Dickinson's poem fits perfectly with the soul of this interpretation.
    Something like the sad gracefulness of resignation...
    Thank you for posting !

  • @quantummath
    @quantummath 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    LOVELY!

  • @styleexnietz1900
    @styleexnietz1900 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Heavenly performance.

  • @user-ex1lr1cs4b
    @user-ex1lr1cs4b 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very nice!!♡☆

  • @LesleyLesPaul
    @LesleyLesPaul 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Something like Gods playing !!! LES

  • @witoldbayerquest
    @witoldbayerquest 10 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Grumiaux' version is interesting for being the only one, I think, among the major "traditional" fiddlers, NOT to play the much extrapolated versions derived from Ferdinand David's 1867 edition (like the edition of Leopold Charlier which is the one most ordinarily played, with its violin techniques closer to Ysaye than to 17th or 18th Century violin), but to have gone back to the original manuscript kept at the State Library of Dresden. It is certainly less virtuosic and romantic, but, despite the piano accompaniment (kept very lean), definitely more authentic.

  • @pasqsaq
    @pasqsaq 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautiful sound and 'baroque' interpretation. Surely with an italian violin...made in Cremona...

  • @DominiqueTasseroul59
    @DominiqueTasseroul59 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Merci, Maître ,

  • @nilsfrederking62
    @nilsfrederking62 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks! Very interesting, I came from Zino Francescettis version with its wonderful rich and bold tone, Grumiaux is more delicate lighter. Both versions are so beautiful. I highly recommend Grumiauxs Bach Violin sonatas with obligatory cembalo.

  • @madoloreszambranotorres7814
    @madoloreszambranotorres7814 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    BRAVISIMOOOOO¡¡¡¡¡¡

  • @parachutes2005
    @parachutes2005 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @venusianagent: THANKS A TON for putting this up!

  • @chales2243
    @chales2243 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think this is another elegant and romantic way of expression! It is different from Heifetz's strong and affectionate way of expression!

    • @JohnDoe-sx2ij
      @JohnDoe-sx2ij ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s a different arrangement of the piece. The one Heifetz played was romanticised by another composer

  • @andreseifert244
    @andreseifert244 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks!

  • @user-zo8fl5wm2v
    @user-zo8fl5wm2v 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the original, this recording lasts 12:25, and this recording was processed on a computer

  • @BernardViolinTeacher
    @BernardViolinTeacher 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    To the best of my knowledge, this is a sort of original unembellished version. Sorry I don't remember the publisher, but I used to play this version.

    • @xinyuzhu2086
      @xinyuzhu2086 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bernard Chevalier Which version of the score are you used then?

  • @venusianagent
    @venusianagent  12 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    @octcerviolin :
    Hello ! I don't know on which score Grumiaux based his interpretation.
    But something is sure : it's exactly the same as the one published in 1966 (10 years after the Grumiaux recording...) by Diethard Hellemann for Bärenreiter and still available (Hortus Musicus 100). In the preface Mr Hellemann says that "his" version is taken from a manuscript of Dresden library (Musica 2037 R/1).
    I hope it can help you.

  • @venusianagent
    @venusianagent  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the cd/itunes ref are now in the description of the video ! :-)

  • @ARTISTASDERUAclapton
    @ARTISTASDERUAclapton 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the best

  • @venusianagent
    @venusianagent  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @parachutes2005 : it's our pleasure !!! :-)

  • @venusianagent
    @venusianagent  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're welcome !

  • @quantumkim8155
    @quantumkim8155 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is not Grumiaux's 1956 Version, But other violinist. You can recognize that this version has fast tempo than Grumiaux's one. (Grumiaux's version has duration_ 12:13 seconds)
    And this performance is rather light and not has rich and deep sound that grumiaux always has.

    • @venusianagent
      @venusianagent  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No chronometer, only my two old ears !
      Anyway your weight of champagne if you give me the name of the violonist of this version 😄

    • @OzzyKingofKings
      @OzzyKingofKings 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The time of 12:13 you give is correct. However, this is unmistakably the Grumiaux recording from 1956 (vibrato, phrasing, etc. everything matches up).
      The reason it sounds different is because it has been mysteriously sped up, digitally manipulated to play out faster (and not well; you can frequently hear tiny little "hiccups" in the sound, distorted artifacts from the process). Unclear as to who did this or what purpose it serves.

    • @JuanEsquivel-ex8nv
      @JuanEsquivel-ex8nv 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      OzzyKingofKings probably a mistake from the uploader or TH-cam

  • @njpberger
    @njpberger 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @venusianagent
    Then it may be the original version of the Chaconne, not the version in which it was transformed into a violin showpiece by Ferdinand David and others. Thanks for putting it up!

  • @Rudel23
    @Rudel23 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know well all the versions of this piece, and this performance is one of the most faithful to the original manuscript...even to much, since Grumiaux ( but is it him really?) plays many chords as written in the manuscript, but they clearly should be performed as arpeggios.

  • @Richard-coom-bucket
    @Richard-coom-bucket 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it just me or did he play a “C” and not a “C flat” at 1:34

  • @andreseifert244
    @andreseifert244 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    on which release is this recording/where can i buy it?

  • @octaviocerusico
    @octaviocerusico 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it´s grumiaux version? because it´s not David, Anzelloti, Auer or Charlier.
    Thanks for putting this !

  • @raoultak
    @raoultak 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What happened with this sound track? This isn't the Grumiaux sound.

    • @venusianagent
      @venusianagent  10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In spite of the mono recording (1956 !) we have undoubtedly here the state of the art of Grumiaux' trumpet playing !
      Welcome to all youtube hifi lovers !

  • @raoultak
    @raoultak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What happened with the audio? This NOT the sound of Grumiaux. Vibrato and phrasing.....

    • @venusianagent
      @venusianagent  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi there ! Originally it is but for a reason that I cannot elucidate the piece which is 12 minutes 18 ends up at 11 minutes in the video... (so all sounds a bit faster)

    • @raoultak
      @raoultak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@venusianagent Thanks for your reply. I understand.

  • @alexsaldarriaga8318
    @alexsaldarriaga8318 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This doesn’t sound like Grumiaux to me. The vibrato is too fast and the lower strings don’t have the warm, horn-like quality that Grumiaux is known for. Nevertheless, the violinist, whoever it is, is magnificent. I enjoyed listening to this off the beaten path version of the Vitali Chaconne.

  • @pepegrillo141
    @pepegrillo141 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The violín is superb. But I prefer an organ than piano in this piece

  • @user-xz7xk9dj4c
    @user-xz7xk9dj4c 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Все хорошо, но не люблю я фортепиано!

    • @venusianagent
      @venusianagent  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Почему? Это великолепное пианино! :-)

  • @violinbuff3782
    @violinbuff3782 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Superb playing. I think in thé release speed slightly increased though pitch stays thé same. I Know his playing and normally vibrato a bit more relaxed due to increase of speed while pitch thanfully correct.

    • @venusianagent
      @venusianagent  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You 're right ! I still haven't worked out why the speed was increased a bit ! But yes, this version is amazing! Arthur...

  • @farzangarmkhorani2270
    @farzangarmkhorani2270 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    No any other violinist in the world's sound quality, phrasing, dominancy
    and sonority count to my ears when Arthur Grumiaux starts playing the
    Violin; No doubt he was the BEST Violinist of the 20th Century.

    • @jpmcft3194
      @jpmcft3194 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Farzan Garmkhorani Jascha Heifetz thinks otherwise.

    • @JMS1089
      @JMS1089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Francescatti is another great one.

    • @billybones2385
      @billybones2385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Josef Hassid was the best violinist that ever lived.