Chernobyl 1x5 FINALE REACTION!! "Vichnaya Pamyat"
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- Shane Calvin and Aaron react to and discuss Season 1 Episode 5 of Chernobyl - Vichnaya Pamyat - Season Finale
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Boris going from having absolutely no idea how nuclear reactors work to confidently explaining the workings of an entire scale model of a nuclear power plant (without even looking at it, that's how sure of himself he was!) is such fantastic character development. And him and Valery getting one last chance to sit down and just be honest with each other about how much respect has been built up between them... Wonderful stuff.
Stellan Skarsgård is just a powerhouse of an actor
I figured he was testifying on the construction. Which he did understand.
I have to agree, Boris' character went through more character development than most characters do in an entire series. He was dismissive of the claims that the reactor blew up, but by the end he was pulling rank, forcing them to listen to the presentation of facts. He's such a great part of the series.
Papa Skärsgard is a legend!
I know it's been a very long time and I hate to necro this but am I the only one who finds that refering to them as characters and talking about their development is a little disconnected? Like this isn't a fictional role Boris was a real man with real emotions and any events he participated in in the series was likely true to real life. So it feels weird and almost rude to describe him as a character and talk about the development of his arc. Maybe it's just me but yeah.
Boris actually handled another huge disaster before his death. There was a massive earthquake in the Caucasus somewhere and he organized the rescue and cleanup efforts. There's a statue of him in one of the cities down there.
He invited international teams of thermal imaging search teams and specially trained search dogs.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Armenian_earthquake
I did not know that! Such a real hero!
@@marcusc9931 Okay, Caucasus, not Balkans...
earthquake was in armenia.
For God's sake Boris. You were the one who mattered the most
From all of the obedient fools, they picked the right guy.
I'm not crying, you are! ;-;
My fucking heart
i love this line so much
I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS SERIES WAS CREATED BY THE GUY WHO WROTE THE SCARY MOVIE SEQUELS AND THE HANGOVER SEQUELS. THIS IS A REAL STEP UP IN HIS CAREER. GREAT JOB!
Its not his fault He got Stuckmannized
And directed by th-cam.com/video/sGNK-cOtxSs/w-d-xo.html
people who do comedy are actually really creative geniuses. most directors who do comedy are actually really punctual on what the audience wants if its a certain genre
I've noticed this with comedians too. They seem to make brilliant actors - I think partly because of their sense of timing and delivery is trained to a n excellent level, they just transfer it to drama rather than comedy. Also tend to imitate others, do impressions , etc, which is again perfect for wpefe they want to do drama
@@beastmasterbg Ye, like Bill Hader writing BARRY.
Legasov was posthumously awarded the title of 'Hero of the Russian Federation', Russia's highest title, in 1996.
Unfortunately, this is the Old Russian tradition to kill or bring suicide to great people, and then to reward them.
History remembers everything, but the main thing is that people did not forget this.
I've read his grave has been covered in flowers since the show has aired, the KGB was wrong, he is not forgotten.
@@viktormaloshuk2564 It is like this everywhere. The people that pose a serious threat to public perception on the US government are also trapped or forced to silence themselves. Every major government does this. I'm not condoning the obvious issues in Russia, but this is the way it is everywhere. The reason it is easy to say that Russia is more corrupt is because the US, and the other superpowers, have so far been very good at keeping secrets. It's only a matter of time before something like this happens and everything is exposed.
Too little. Too late. For Legasov, I mean.
@@johnjungkook2721 Oh yes, only the nahive think that the Soviet Union is the only evil state in history to keep tons of skeletons in its closet.
Putting the explosion aside, Dyatlov is a real criminal. Remember first episode when He came out of the room and crossed a corridor to go call his bosses ? He looked by the window, and could see graphite on the floor. Which means he DID know the core had exploded but was in a pure denial.
I really don't know if Dyatlov is as much of an ass as portrayed in this show though, there's old documentaries of him on here and I think he was just another scapegoat.
@@widget5718 Well, as dangerous as the fatal flaw was, Dyatlov still is the one who pushed the reactor to its limits, which shouldn't happen anyway. To me He is at least as responsible as the state is ... And yes, the show added some stuff for drama, but If I recall well, the dialogues in the control room (that was reported bay everyone who were there) are really faithfull to what actually happenned. So, maybe not as much of an ass hole as portrayed, but He still was garbage...
Sponge in reality Dyatlov was the first to check all of the reactors
He had no idea there was a flaw to the reactor and said that if he new himself and no one else would have worked there. By his retelling everything seemed to be going steady until the explosion, and he admitted that he went into fear and shock. He ended up sending men to lower the rods manually only to realize his stupidity, or as he exactly put it-
“When they ran out into the corridor, I realized it was a stupid thing to do,” he said in reference to ordering operators to manually lower the rods. “If the rods had not come down by electricity or gravity, there would be no way of getting them down manually. I rushed after them, but they had disappeared.”
He later went to go see they had died in the room...
It was said that Dyatlov was definitely a hardass boss, I probably wouldn't have enjoyed working for someone demanding as him. With that being said he was given a reactor to work with that was deadly and sure as hell had no clue that pressing the button to prevent something horrible would actually make it explode. Dyatlov suffered severe burns in his legs from that night and had to re-learn to walk, but it's said that he would never do so normally again as he would get winded and have to stop.
The workers went and 'fucked up' making good scapegoats.
The state got to watch the catastrophe they always new could happen.
@@widget5718 Not really. You have to see him for yourself
"That is how an RBMK reactor explodes... lies."
A common complaint about the show is it made things sound more dire or more dangerous or more deadly than it actually was. I think that misses the point. Yes, the divers lived, yes the whole of Europe wasn't rendered radioactive, yes the core didn't melt into the groundwater and poison the waters of Europe... but they THOUGHT it could happen. That was POSSIBLE. That was the worst case scenario but it was still a scenario. It COULD have happened. They didn't know how lucky and blessed they were things didn't end up as bad as possible till after. The show captured the fear and terror of in the moment everyone knowing what COULD happen with this disaster. Yes it gave the show more drama, but still. Hindsight is 20/20, we know the dangers weren't as bad as they thought, but they didn't know that then
I think even saying it gave the show "more" drama is inaccurate, because it only gave the show as much drama as the people at the time would likely have been feeling. As far as they knew they might have just doomed the entire planet, so I think a little bit of "extra drama" is pretty justified lol.
But there is actual film/video of the meltdown claims.
But in real life they did treat every possibility as a reality it would’ve been dumb to not prepare for the worst case
STFU
@@dilrajdhaliwal8690 Go to sleep. Your bedtime was long ago.
33000 megawatts is just the final reading they got, data models show the power spiked much higher, possibly as high as 300,000 megawatts.
Doc Brown Voice: THREE HUNDRED GIGAWATTS?!?!?!?!
Can I just say how much I love Calvin’s face when he is watching all of the scientific explanations. So much
Can I just say how much I love Calvin's face, period
Who is Calvin and what is a face
Nerdelicious
@@i.pezzotti853 I'll do you one better: when is Calvin and why is a face?
What an incredible show. Really shows what TV can be when the writers actually care about the show theyre making.
*sips tea*
Bhlack Bishop yes wink wink
Agreed, a great Arc going into focus with denouement.
JUST LIKE GAME A THRONDES RIGHT GUYS
cough cough *D & D* cough cough lol
You mentioned how Dyatlov died while in hard labor.
He actually only served 3 of the 10 years of punishment and died at home. Until his last day he denied being responsible for the explosion
Responsible? You're delusional
Well he was responsible for the horrible test, he still assumed the ASED5 button would work. Even so I think the burden was too much for him so he'd rather deny the whole thing till the end.
@@pulkmees r/whoosh
@@pulkmees AZ-5*
He was responsible for doing the test wrong and being stubborn but he was not directly responsible for the explosion. He was put in this position as a manager without being told that he is handling something that can explode, he has never studied nuclear energy, therefore he only knew what he was told. In the end he was the scapegoat and the people who withheld important information from him, never faced the consequences of their actions.
"Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later that debt is payed." Chills every time.
The part where Dyatlov says "there is no rule" was not a violation. 700 was the number Dyatlov picked himself - he prepared the test programme and as the writer of the test programme he could change this number, if wanted. Also, they technically did not violate any of the existing rules that night. All they did was in terms of the instruction manual. The young operators knew something was wrong, as they actually learned nuclear physics in university unlike him, but were too young, morally weak and inexperienced to oppose Dyatlov.
I imagine if any one of them stood up to Dyatlov and shut it all down before it could do any damage, that person would have been probably fired and nobody would remember him or Chernobyl in a parallel universe. Also how many similarly impactful scenarios in the past nearly happened, but were prevented and didn't even show up in the news... because nothing happened.
It's like the accidents when US accidentaly dropped nuclear bombs on their own soil, but luckily none of them ever exploded, so barely anyone knows about them. If just one of them exploded, they'd treat it like 9/11, make memorial and remind themselves of it every year.
that's the problem with a communist and nepotistic society, the wrong people get put in charge and the experts are told to keep their mouths shut.
@@Laireso "Also how many similarly impactful scenarios in the past nearly happened, but were prevented and didn't even show up in the news.."
Stanislav Petrov.
On 26 September 1983, three weeks after the Soviet military had shot down Korean Air Lines Flight 007, Petrov was the duty officer at the command center for the Oko nuclear early-warning system when the system reported that a missile had been launched from the United States, followed by up to five more. Petrov judged the reports to be a false alarm.
His subsequent decision to disobey orders, against Soviet military protocol, is credited with having prevented an erroneous retaliatory nuclear attack on the United States and its NATO allies that could have resulted in a large-scale nuclear war which could have wiped out half of the population of the countries involved. An investigation later confirmed that the Soviet satellite warning system had indeed malfunctioned.
In the aftermath of the incident, the Soviet government investigated the incident and determined that Petrov had insufficiently documented his actions during the crisis. He explained it as "Because I had a phone in one hand and the intercom in the other, and I don't have a third hand"; nevertheless, Petrov received a reprimand.
I am sad you guys skipped; "That is how a RMBK reactor explodes....LIES." Legasovs entire speech was amazing. Loooove Calvins reactions.
Thank you for this awesome reaction series. As a Russian it is really nice seeing people from abroad getting educated about this disaster. And of course a huge bow to HBO for making this series. Every “homemade” ones we had before is just jokes. Only a handful of documentaries actually show and portray the true horror and consequences of this disaster on people
I've noticed on a lot of these reactions. People often comment on that German robot failing. They will say something like "them Germans!" or "d*** Germans!" But, if you pay attention you would know the failure of the robot was not the Germans fault. The Russians gave them a lower radiation level than was accurate. So, the Germans gave them a robot based on the amount of radiation that the Russians told them..... which was a lie. If you remember Boris getting pissed and smashing the phone. He was pissed because they told the Germans a false reading of the radiation. Maybe when I hear the German bashing.... it is sarcasm?
The last sensor reading was 33.000 MWt, the reactor went much higher than that.
I read somewhere that it reached 900 times it's designed capacity, that's pretty much the definition of a runaway reactor.
Some high estimates I heard were beyond 300,000MW before the explosion. Pressing AZ-5 isn't actually an instantaneous stop in the event of control rods being completely withdrawn, it takes time. I think it's like 18 seconds to lower completely? In any case, the show was a bit inaccurate as they weren't really graphite tips, they were graphite blocks pulled into the reactor when the control rods were withdrawn, which makes sense since light water is a neutron absorber, so pulled a block of graphite in increases reactivity (which is the point of pulling out a control rod). The disaster had a lot to do with a hotspot forming low in RBMK reactors at low power, undetected. But the actual reason the reactor exploded is not actually known for sure. The contributing factors are known but there are several proposed scenarios for how it actually happened.
As long as you don't pull the rods all the way out it should not be a problem, that the operators didn't know about, or understood, the implications of this feature - THAT is a problem.
There is questions about the second explosion, if it was chemical or a nuclear fizzle or a mix. The only good thing to come out of this is that Reactor 4 fulfilled it's entire five year power generation plan in five seconds.
Like they said it was 3.6 roentgens, but that was the highest the meter could go.
Most likely 10 times that number, if not more.
This show did a great job of not only telling us what happened, but insuring that we understood how and why.
Great reaction series boys, it’s been one of my favourites.
I think even with some inaccuracies here and there, this show is something that people should see. I was amazed at how little I knew about Chernobyl until I saw this series. It made me research the event further. I wish you guys kept a little bit more of the epilogue in for TH-cam but I understand there is a copyright thing.
Dyatlov's perspective in real life was summed up when he said, "I will not say that I am guilty, but I cannot say that I'm not."
While he certainly bears responsibility for much of what happened that night inside the control room of Reactor 4, he can perhaps be forgiven - in part - because he did it believing that there was a way out.
This is one of those terrible points in history where there is adequate blame to go around in many directions.
The whole thing is entirely his fault. He desperately wanted to please his superiors so much that he ignored literally every warning
While yes, there was something wrong with reactors back then, it was only and really only because of his orders that caused everything.
@@pierreo33 The blame for me is shared between Dyatlov, the 2 business blokes and the individuals i.e. the central committee and probably the KGB involved in redacting the 2 pages exposing the Soviets supposedly perfect engineering quality. They're all to blame in different ways, but those individuals exclusively.
For the most part I blame the higher ups, from the ones offering the promotion, the ones responsible for the shoddy technicalities of the reactor itself, and of course Dyatlov. But the largest part has to be with Dyatlov because there were a dozen things wrong with what happened in that control room that night because of him. From technical issues to management issues to human issues.
A lot of the blame lies with the system
A man like Dyatlove should never have been put in charge of a nuclear reactor
I love how the guys love Boris during this episode, how they have come around on their opinion of him. Very different from the character at the beginning of the show, who is somewhat obstructive but realizes that Legasov knows his stuff and backs him. Awesome combo of acting by Papa Skärsgard, writing, character development. Chernobyl is going to sweep the categories it is nominated for in awards. Deservedly so.
Anatoly Dyatlov: Gold Level Award Winner for Worst Boss Ever, with his breakout hit: "3.6 roentgen not great but not terrible."
Actually most calculations by scientists suggest that the power went beyond 300.000 Megawatts in a matter of a few seconds. And many even suggest that this was actually a real nuclear explosion, similar to a small nuclear bomb (as shorty mentioned by Legasov in the series), as a consequence of an uncontrolled reaction that went critical instantly. Something that was not only thought impossible by Soviet scientists at the time, but by the worldwide scientific community as well. That is probably why they refused to believe this fact in the first couple of hours. Scott Manly does a pretty good job at explaining the whole process of the accident in depth on his channel.
it was burning with over 3000 degrees C right before it exploded. the sun is just a bit over 4000degrees C soo...we should really stop messing with uranium, because clearly we are too dumb for that advanced stuff.
@@Isoscel The sun is not homogenous in temperature. The core is much hotter than it's surfarce, but the corona is also hotter than the surface even though it is further from the core. We definitely have knowledge about uranium and other types of fission, but like Legasov said: We must not lie when its about the safety of the plant.
The rods coming in spiked the energy but the lack of water caused fuel channels to rupture, which then jammed the control rods in place, partially inserted, so the boron never made it in to bring down the energy. This is what happened in the original reactor that the USSR covered up, but only in a much smaller scale. That time they had not retracted all of the rods, just some, so there wasn't a Chernobyl sized disaster as the rods that were still inside were able to stop the spike.
Boris played Erik Selvig in The Avengers! What?! I didn't see that at all. That's very well good on his part, not being able to see him from other movies he played his part so well. And he had some of the best character development than some get in an entire series. He was great.
and he was Bootstrap Bill from Pirates of the Caribbean.
He was also the captain on the Russian sub that blew up in The Hunt for Red October
He was also the guy in Deep Blue Sea that got his arm bitten off
He also played The Baron in Dune
Last time I saw Calvin make that face in the thumbnail was when Honest Trailers described the live-action Dragon Ball movie as “the biggest insult to Japanese culture since Hiroshima”. Is it a coincidence that both times have something to do with nuclear energy?
...probably.
The trial was in March 1987, eleven months after Chernobyl. Legasov's suicide was thirteen months after this, or exactly two years after Chernobyl.
Hey guys, never though of watching "mindhunter"? one of my favorite serie so far. Brilliant screenplay, clever dialogue, good acting
@Mr. Penguin well, they are watching "hunter x hunter". Talk about a slow show... But I get your point, although it might be sometimes slow, there is always meanings in every shots and dialogues
Hannibal series is muuuuch better!
The Podcasts are really interesting, I enjoyed all of them.
Yeah, the podcast were so interesting..I loved listening to them
yeess!!!
i always get chills when they say/show how the 350kg steel caps started jumping. Pure terror
The wife of the fireman did have a son, but it required a lot of bone marrow transplant from her family and surgery to stabilize her body...must not have been easy...
well..i suppose she wasn't shocked after clinging herself to her radioactive husband. sorry but if i were in his position and my wife tried to kiss my hands i would do everything to get her the hell out of there. i'm surprised she didn't die right after. don't get me wrong, i love my wife very much but...i couldn't take that risk.
@@Isoscel people in the 80's didnt know much about radiation; especially those is communist russia (who limitted the spread of knowledge in order to maintain class structures).
The son is also very ill and was in and out of hospital a lot
Most of the survivors may looked "normal" (also thx to surgery's and stuff) but the body was destroyd beyond repair inside at cellular levels.
Great reactions, I'm glad you guys liked it. A couple things:
1. The people who watched from the bridge did not "all die" like the show's epilogue credits suggest. Most of them didn't get enough of a dosage to have serious problems, while some got mild Acute Radiation Sickness.
2. Do not mistake the surprising parts of the epilogue credits (like how Lyudmilla Ignatenko still managed to have a healthy child) to mean that the disaster wasn't as bad as it seems. There are thousands to hundreds of thousands of cases across Europe of cancer, primarily thyroid, that can be directly traced back to the radiation released from Chernobyl.
Everyone on the bridge did die like the show said. Their families confirm it. All were dead in four weeks of the explosion.
@@shauntempley9757 I've heard conflicting things so I wasn't sure to be honest. Though, if the families confirmed it, then I guess that's it.
It made more sense that they DID all die, but for some reason I remembered reading somewhere that they didn't. Oh well.
To shock you all even more they didn’t put it in the show but when Dyatlov was asked later in life if he accepted any responsibility or felt any remorse at all all he said was quote “I can’t say it was my fault but I can’t say it wasn’t.”
And that right there tells you what you need to know about both Soviet and present day Russian accountability.
Two series you should denifitely react to: Dark and The Terror. Finger lickin' good series I might add.
yes yes yes
Excellent series and great reaction! Really loved watching the full length reaction and rewatching the series!
Ep 2: This fuckin' guy...
Ep 5: God, I Love Boris
Show and reaction where great, I hope you guys can catch up with some Black Mirror
Did y'all notice the actor who played Roose Bolton (Game of Thrones) as one of the speakers during the hearing?
Everyone noticed that...
And the guy who played the Iron born second in command under theon was the Russian general in the 4th episode.
What an amazing series. Loved following the reactions!
It's funny that the guy who created and wrote this series also wrote Hangover parts 2 and 3, Scary Movie 3 and 4, and he wrote and directed superhero movie.
Would have been fun to get Eric onboard for the discussion as he's already seen the show (right?).
I had a friend who’s mother was in one of the first expeditions to Chernobyl/Pripyat after the accident. She later found out she was pregnant with his older sister, who then was born with a serious bone condition, he said that multiple times in her life she had to spend up to a year in hospitals, motionless, because her bones would crumble. My friend is almost ten years younger than his sister and doesn’t have such a serious condition, but if he pulls his shoulders backwards his sternum kinda pops out and he can push it back into his chest applying pressure with both hands. Weird stuff. He was born in 96 in Kiev.
Fun fact: The third diver who passed away recently (Baranov) died from heart disease, non-radiation related.
Thank you for your reaction and discussion of "Chernobyl" series!
After resurching into the real Dyatlov, and I feel he was painted as a villain, which in reality he was not, just a man, who has flaws, dealt with radiation before, which he believed lead to his sons death from lukeima,leukemia, so now he feels that he has something to prove and he wants to try to control it.
He was also single-minded and Reckless
Those qualities should have disqualified him from running a nuclear reactor
the scene where Lyudmila is looking at Vasily holding the baby kills me. the life she was envisioning that she never got to have. that scene and the final scene between Boris and Legasov are heavy ones in this episode I think. Boris saying 'it's beautiful'. there's nothing like the appreciation one gets for the little things in life after receiving a terminal diagnosis. it's such a heavy feeling.
Would love to see you react to "Dark". It's really one of the best written shows I've seen in a long time. Some truely well made time-travelling mind-fu*kery. It's not that known but definitely worth watching! Season 1 trailer: /watch?v=rrwycJ08PSA
Clavin, Eric and Shane I think would be the best ones for that
@@ya102 I guess it's just not that known. Now that the second season aired, it gains a little more attention but never as much as it really deserves :D It can keep up to AAA series like Stranger Things with ease.
Carl Johnson Hope that if they react to Dark, it’s in the original language. The dub is not that good.
Is it explained from the offset that time travel is involved or have you just spoiled a show for me?
@@freddybaltazar2347 watching in subs is stupid hate to break it to you
the podcast is great to listen to! It explains the series even more and gets deeper in the history!
was crazy when it was like the whole thing went back in time and seeing things from earlier as a last episode
They needed the graphite on the control rods to accelerate the reaction because they used only partially enriched uranium to keep costs down. There are two explainer videos on TH-cam that came out recently to help explain it in a little bit more detail.
One of the best Series that have "MUST" to be seen
An important point overlooked in the show, is how far away the control room is actually from the reactor. Not to mention the majority of the explosion was forced upwards rather than sideways, this probably made their feeling of the explosion and the denial it was the core to be a feed pump tank only. It's also worth remembering how "amazing" and young nuclear energy was, it was truly hard to believe something on this scale could happen.
Without it, how we perceive meltdowns would be limited to 3 mile island and fukushima, steam explosions from coolant.
I highly recommend watching scott manlys video on how chernobyl melted down if you want details. You can hear and probably understand why they said zenon pit in the script here, and why time was such a critical factor.
/watch?v=q3d3rzFTrLg
One of my favorite series of all time
"This is all slow motion" Thanks Calvin lol
So.....a sub set of you guys picked up on the excellent Chernobyl , but , man, are you guys gonna ever check out The Expanse?
" _Soviet Union_ attitude - WE'RE NOT WRONG"...
Shane... Really? Is it really that exclusive to them?
I think that was the message that was just under the surface of this show and I see alot of reactors not see that. You can take almost any conversation between the soviet politicians and the scientists and it would mirror our own world today when we look at large life threatening issues (climate change, etc) and it would be beat for beat. 30 years and nothing has changed in our attitudes. WE still think we are to big to fail.
It's a joke jeez
@@BhlackBishop Does not seem at all like a joke...
In fact I agree with him, no country that has ever labeled itself a superpower would and should allow a "we were wrong policy", so to speak.
1st, because they should strive to never even make a "wrong" decision and 2nd because allowing itself to be seen as openly flawed is just not a good idea period. I would reiterate my initial addendum, but you can just read it up above if you wish :P
@@krishelms5016 Sad and honestly terrifying when you think about it =/
@@nexusvoid367 Then i guess you didn't get the joke because it was a joke. Shane makes jokes referencing tv shows/movies all the time. But yes I agree countries shouldn't act like children.
I watched these solely for Calvin's reactions.
In the book Midnight in Chernobyl, I believe states Toptunov was only on the job for 2 months.
I think the show writers changed it, because it was so damned unbelievable that he would be senior operater.
Fantastic series
If you want to read any books about it I suggest Voices From Chernobyl by Svetlana Alexievich and Midnight in Chernobyl by Adam Higginbotham which came out in 2019. Apparently, the writer of the show said he wish he had it when making the show because it would have cut his research down considerably.
I was kinda disappointed that you guys cut off Legasov's final part of his speech. The words he said was so powerful, probably one of the best speeches ever, and is still relevant to the political scene we have now.
They didn't cut it off. They've watched it, they've heard it, they've just left that part of the reaction out. If you don't like that, you can watch the series on your own time and not miss a thing.
@@Saranda4787 "they've just left that part of the reaction out" is literally what is meant by "they cut it off"
stop being pedantic and use your brain
Truly a great series that not only showed the injustice at Chernobyl, but celebrated the heroism of those who risked their lives trying to minimize as much of the damage as possible.
Also fun fact: the third diver who passed away: Baranov actually died from heart disease. Non-radiation related. Amazing how those three were in the worst environment yet manage to not only arguably saved the world but got to continue to live their lives.
please react to dark
Great reaction guys, You should watch this with Rick and Erick too.
Amazing! Thank you!
Late comment, but some recent computer models of the reaction believed it actually might have went super-critical and became an actual real nuclear detonation that spiked at 330,000Mw, not just 10 times the reaction but 100 times.
Boris is the best
Great reaction...if you want great writing watch Hannibal...loved to see y'all reactions to his shenanigans!
Fomin was an apriarick (party man) and had only taken a correspondence course on nuclear engineering to get his job as supervisor of Plant 4. His was a party appointment.
And after his short lived sentence, he went to work in Kalinigrad....... In a Nuclear power plant......
Taking notes - what a respectful attitude! I guess, the subject deserves it.
There is a Plaque if i recall near Chernobyl. I don't know the whole dedication, but i do know it states "To those who saved the world" and damn right in my opinion.
There are still a handfull of operational RBMK reactors.
Good show i hope they make a season 2
Calvin's reaction at 10:36 is such a mood
Since even the investigating scientists initially couldn't understand why the reactor blew up, because it was said to be an 'impossible' event, Dyatlov probably believed the same and could not accept that it had happened, and also didn't want to believe it had happened because of the enormity of the catastrophe if it had happened. Dyatlov during the test was prepared to gamble everything on the basis that there was a shut down button that could be used if necessary. When things went wrong he didn't understand why, but he couldn't being himself to admit that because he had always told the others 'I know what I'm doing' and was ready to blame any problems on their 'incompetence'.
Im so glad you reacted to Chernobyl, is easily one of the best series I've ever seen. Btw, you should really check out Money Heist, or "La casa de papel". Is a spanish show on netflix, I really recomend it.
You should watch Dark guys, you'll love it
@23:38 Re: you guys talking about Dyatlov dying before he finished serving time - Dyatlov served only 3 years out of 10. He was released pretty early. He never served time till his death.
At least that asshole died in 95 of radiation.
10/10 perfection
I was 1 year old when this happened, 400 kilometers away! O_o
I was twelve and I thought the world was going to end as the news said the radiation would spread across the entire globe. They said it would hit the jet streams and spread all across North America. It was like living in a nightmare. I was old enough to understand what was going on but I was also young enough to imagine that the world was going to end. It was horrifying.
Damn I'd love to have that scale model of the plant.
The true hero in this whole shenanigans was Boris =(
Never noticed the guy was pythagoras from Atlantis.
Guys, you have to see ''Dark'' !
Ahhhh I was waiting for the soviet unchanged death toll!
Deservedly nominated for 19 emmy's the entire court scene is some of the best written dialogue ive seen in a very long time the final epilogue talking about the real life people got me teary eyed with that music and just reading about how much they all suffered to think that the firefighters clothing is still there untouched for 33 years just heartbreaking "in memory of those who suffered and sacrificed"
The 3 divers were actually shielded by the water
Along with several feet of concrete
@@jamesricker3997 Yep
Could someone please explane what does black rings mean?) I was always wonder)
I still pray God for u guys reacting to Mr. Robot
You guys pretty much got it bang on, in pretty much every factor in the disaster being it’s cause.
Bottom of the line, it was caused by the Soviet system as one whole entity of the way it worked and the people who worked for it, cutting costs, protecting itself etc.
I do honestly think it’s wrong, however much I despise his short temper, to solely blame Dyatlov. As stated by Legasov during the series, he reacted the way he did in the face of the truth because he was told by higher ups that RBMKs were flawless, alongside his own personal desire for promotion in his field.
Every factor behind the disaster was equally as responsible as another, and as if existing as a bleak monument to the institutionalised lie, the spell of desolation will be cast over Chernobyl and will remain for 20,000 years.
What an incredible series.
You boys gotta check out the REAL Diatlov"s (?spelling) tell all interview before he died (he lived for a while after the accident).... its on TH-cam.... very enlightening.. you kind of get the sense of dramatic effect used in the mini series.... its pretty interesting... plus did you know the other guy they put in jail.. Diatlov's supervisor the balding guy.... he only served half his jail sentence then went back and resumed his position at Chernobyl.. he also has tell all interviews online from the 90's... pretty freak'n fascinating deep dive
You guys should watch Chernobyl 3828 on youtube it's Ukrainian documentary film. Very good mini doc!
The staff was not aware of the "design features" of the reactor. They knew and were confident that doing the right thing. Dyatlov conducted tests, thinking that the reactor is serviceable, and AZ-5 will work. The staff also messed up a bit, but if the reactor was serviceable, these mistakes would not lead to an explosion. They did not commit any violations of the regulatory documents in force at that time.
Subsequently made changes, making many of those erroneous actions direct prohibitions. But to say that the staff broke the rules, which at that time did not exist. Well, it's probably wrong.
The staff dident mess up rly, Dyatlov commanded them like the tyrant he was, such an entitled in denial bully.
The operators put the reactor in a mode in which it exploded from the introduction of emergency protection. They are definitely to blame for the fact that the reactor was in this mode, but there is a huge "but" - this mode was not prohibited by the Regulations of those years. Even about the effect of the control rods, the operators simply did not reported neither in the regulations or in the instructions anywhere. They were sure that the reactor was safe, and could not think otherwise. Are they to blame for the fact that the reactor behaved in such modes? I guess not. No one expected this from the reactor. The staff didn't even know, and if they had, they wouldn't have put the device into such modes.
Perhaps if the scientific management of the industry reacted in time and reported such dangerous aspects of RBMK's work to operators, such an accident would not have happened. The reactor with defects fell into the hands of people who did not know about these defects. The staff of the NPP quite to itself legally and logically tried to operate allegedly safe reactor, allowing certain excesses. The result is known to all of us and is very sad.
Fomin took a corespondence course in order to get his position overseeing a nuclear power plant.
Did he really? Wow!
Good reaction 👍
It’s a brutal fact that maybe the Soviet Union was the only country that could deal with this disaster, their absolute system of state authority over the people meant they would sacrifice as many people it needed to reinforce the ideological beliefs of USSR policies. Even with the massive cost to life we owe a debt of gratitude to those who paid the ultimate price. But it’s only half the job done, Chernobyl is still a radiation hot zone and will continue to build beyond our life span. The programme raises the awareness but the solution is still not achieved
They were also the only country who were capable of generating this disaster. The US and western countries for years had known about the flaws of the russian reactors. To sum it simply; they were cheap. The Russian RBK's were basically the thrift shop version's of those used by the west. ?Starting with the fact that they had no containment vessel and could freely turn off all the safety regulations at any point in time.
One Buffalo UK & US both generated disasters before Chernobyl.
@@mradriankool Not nuclear ones..
One Buffalo ok, what was Sellafield ( wiindscale ) & 3 mile island ?
@@mradriankool cant speak on behalf of the former, as its english and I dont know much about it. As for 3 mile island; it was a partial reactor meltdown that ended up being what we'd call a "controlled disaster" meaning when it occurred it was immediately contained with little to no fallout.
Likewise, it occured before chernobyl and there was 100% transparency with what had occurred.
Noo you cut the last part of Legasov' speech.
and the reaction on the later life of Dyatlov.
Band of Brothers next please!!