The Witcher III | Oldgen VS Nextgen | Final Graphics Comparison | PC Ultra RTX 4080
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Can u give me music in this video pls?
@@jodlex_music where music
What settings did u use??
That's why this channel is the best in the graphic comparisons category. It goes beyond the basics and shows the real differences in the smallest details. Good job.
Yeah but the music does tend to get annoying after the 2 minute mark
this channel played games like uncharted and the golden abyss don't pretend they speak english etc
@@ELRANDOM79 lmao what does that have to do with anything
@@Eddycut no se compa ya paso
@@ELRANDOM79 si no sabes para que comentas we jaja
Gotta say, the first time I booted up the game, I didn't notice any graphical differences. When I got to Velen though, the change is definitely noticeable. Textures are much sharper, grass is more dense and less blurry, the new weather effects like fog make Velen even more gloomy than before. I already played W3 with mods but I see that Nextgen looks much better than that.
I hate when sources like IGN make “graphics comparison” videos for releases like this, and all they do is show a side by side comparison of a cut scene or two, where the difference is barely noticeable. Then you have everyone in the comments going “lmao it looks exactly the same” when that could have been avoided if they had just shown an actual gameplay comparison where the differences are like night and day.
Outside the GI and water reflections, it seems like most of the changes are due to things that were mods for the original game. Halk Hogan's textures, candles making shadows, etc. Though I do like the original white water texture for the stream.
For me the snap was the night. Before, the nights seemed like it had own light, so bright. Now, it's still bright but only near Gerald (I think not to let the gameplay weird, imagine the nights completely dark!), but now, the surroundings are really dark when it's night and you're in a forest. I need to step in a city to see the other differences. I'm in Tousant playing the add-on and I still need to finish the game lol
@@JZStudiosonline The big change for me were the godrays. The way the light goes through the trees or windows is mind blowing, it really looks beautiful. Though I've never downloaded a mod associated with lighting so I don't know if there is any that makes the better job.
This game got the renewed attention it deserves so much. It looks so much more improved in lots of areas. The original still holds up well for a 2015 open world game though.
it really didn't hold up. this new-gen version was needed
@@xKamiiii It definitely holds up well for an open world game from that year. You're confused by the wording I guess.
I honestly couldn't notice the difference when I'm playing.
It shows how good the original version is
Yeah, but it is unplayable on PC with directx12. Crashes, poor performance with raytracing. It runs worse than CP2k77.
@@Slyght3r but whats the difference between dx11 and dx12? graphics wise
The only thing I miss is how dramatic the old-gen wind was. The new one is far less agressive in comparisson. 😢
The old wind looked wobbly af..trees made of rubber, totally unrealistic
This gave me spooky vibe
This gave me spooky vibe
@Werner Pfeifenberger thej do cell shading
@@flogozgeik1898 If you have a strong enough storm the trees will behave in such a way. I also prefer the old dramatic thunderstorms. I actually find many things about the old Gen Whitcher 3 more dramatic and contrasting and i think i like it better that way.
I love the next gen update. But the performance costs are quite heavy to be honest.
The improved textures and models are immediately visible and shouldn't cost too much of a performance hit as it is usually more VRAM bound on modern GPUs.
RT Reflections I feel like are not worth the hype. I prefer reflections on windows and mirrors, but on water it always look weird to me.
RT Shadows are okay but not that noticeable while playing the game.
RT Ambient occlusion is very nice but overall I feel like it makes everything look so much darker, which I don't really like to be honest.
RT Global illumination is just so DAMN AMAZING and is the new thing I wouldn't want to play without. The visual upgrades it offers are so damn noticeable it's hard to go back. It makes everything look so much more cinematic I love it.
most of the update like the textures are from hulk hogan (a modder)
Exactly what i say, Shadows meh, Ambient occlusion ok, Reflections yes, but GI damn its impressive, same goes for Cyberpunk Pathtracing... cant play without it.
11:00 really minor thing, but I always really liked the way bodies of water looked in the original game. The rich, deep blue color with the turqoise edges + clear/lighter blue in shallow parts helped give this world more of its own identity as its own unique fantasy world, instead of just being generic/realistic water. So I was kinda disappointed to see they did a full makeover aka made it look more generic. Maybe I'm alone ha. Idk, original water I just thought was beautiful, exotic, and made the world feel more cool and epic. Not a big deal though.
i think strongly the same. and it’s the main disappointment for this update. i liked that water graphics so much, such a unique style
True, nice catch!
You are not alone. "Next gen" look is anything but good, and on top of it you get that shitty blurry look with over exaggerated AO, it's simply horrible. Long live v 1.32!
In fact, the next gen is more beautiful graphically, but one thing that I liked about the old gen was that the wind is stronger in the vegetation and even in Geralt's hair, in the new one they took a little
I never liked how the trees wiggled in the wind. They seemed rly small and thin with those physics. Glad they toned it down in NG
Next gen obviously looks better but the old one look so good too. I love this game.
Loved it, too. But it is simply not enough for a good game experience to stand around doing nothing. But that is all Geralt can do in the Next Gen without bad stuttering. They broke the game.
It only looks better using a high end GPU or one of the next gen era consoles. On my PC the game looks so bad now it may aswell be a mobile port. It's barely playable and anything more then 15 feet away looks like it's from a PS1 where I can count the pixels. Totally ruined the game for me.
I'll probably never play it again.
@@geehammer1511 Play the game in DX11 mode. You get every graphics update except Ray Tracing and DLSS, FSR implementation. The game very playable on older hardver too just you have to find the rigt settings. (on Steam and GOG though you can roll back to the Oldgen if you still have issues).
@@PeterPauls Dx11 made it crash at cutscenes. Dx12 looked terrible.
My solution : Uninstall The Witcher 3 and go play Skyrim instead.
@@geehammer1511 And rollback to 1.32? There are a tons of options…
I see a lot of people ask about music, I've found it: ZERAVI - Katana :)
YOU JUST BEST!)
THANK YOU SO GODDAMN MUCH! HOW THE HELL DID U FIND IT?
I don't know you, but I love you))
Thank you!
Uno de los mejores juegos de la generación anterior. Me gusta el cariño y reconocimiento que le están dando con este update que además es gratis!
Hello, I am a huge fan I watch your videos almost all the time I wondered if I could ask you to make a comparative video of Witcher 3 old gen on pc ultra Vs next gen on PS5 ? I find that it is interesting to see how much of a leap did we actually make from what the best pc's could push out at decent frames back then and what we have now on consoles :)
Oh and I love the music in your works !
Joguei The witcher 3 ano passado com esses MODS de Textura HD .. e realmente é outra experiência de game play! CD fez bem contratar os Moders para adicionar ao jogo de forma oficial para os consoles.
Now this is a comparison when other videos don't seem so much difference (except water reflections i noticed) but this one does. Great video and a thumbs up
Really nice comparision video mate. Cheers
Lo estoy jugando en Series X y la diferencia es abismal. Me enamoré como la primera vez. Es inmortal este juego.
me paso lo mismo y otra vez cai en el vicio de gwent jaja
En consolas no tiene RTGI, es casi el mismo juego solo con más resolución y sombras, cuando regresas a jugar la versión clásica te das cuenta que no hay demasiada diferencia
@@raulreyes1823 En series x y ps5 tiene iluminacion global por ray tracing
Estoy igual, lo juego en PS5 y el juego cambio muchísimo, en video podes apreciar un poco el cambio pero tenés que jugarlo para verlo y darte cuenta el gran cambio, y además es gratis, no entiendo a la gente que se queja o dice que es igual, la mejora es gratuita, disfruten más
@@raulreyes1823 visita un oculista porfavor y no muestres signos de ignorancia innecesaria
Lo único que no me convence mucho es que hayan disminuido el movimiento de árboles a causa del viento y la proyección de sombra, 0:50 que de momentos parece dibujada con regla, falta algo de suavizado o un difuminado en los bordes. Fuera de eso esta espectacular.
They toned down the spazzy trees, which I liked. The shadows are way too dark also.
But they used to make the world so alive. 😢
The stormy trees were so amazing!! I hope we can turn it on soon again!!! This makes this game so mystical and much darker and better. We need the wind again in the Witcher 3 :( :(
Very detail. Thank you!!
La mejor música de fondo de tu canal, es buenisima
Can you compare de old 2013 demo with this next gen version? I remenber that version had superior lightning
I love the almost animated old gen vegetations a lot. makes it look very unique.
Very nice comparison! This helps a lot. Not sure how this new gen update gonna run on my 3060 but i think im fine playing with RT off, im actually more happy to see the improved textures and lighting. The game already looked beautiful bfr the update 👍🏽
I'm playing on my rx 6600 only with rt and nvidia hairworks off and i'm having an amazing experience
Fore it crashed straight away on 3060 or having around 40fps
@@serverofgames3402 you can have the same and better experience with mods on oldgen and at least, much better performance
@@serverofgames3402 well I have a 3070 and I'm getting an average of at least 90fps at 1440p with RT and hairworks off and everything on ultra or ultra+, DLSS on quality. In lightly populated areas I'm getting as much as 150fps and in the cities I'm getting around 80-100fps. So with a 3060 and the same settings as I have, you should get around 60fps in cities and 80+ in less populated areas. I recommend turning foliage density and background characters to medium if you want some extra frames
Lighting is also done by RT, that's what RT was implemented for in RTX GPUs, reflections were just simpler to add to pre-exisiting games, so that was the main effect used at first,.
1:45 this part blew me away. What a lovely game.
Great video, keep going 👍
The raytracing isn't really necessary, but damn does it give a lot of depth to certain scenes. The water also surprisingly looks good, usually with RT it's a little too glass-like (although the Skellige streams shown do look a little too calm and mirror-like).
Unfortunately, it seems like the improved lighting and shading makes pop-in more noticeable. The difference of each LOD is accentuated, I mean. But when standing still it almost looks like real life haha.
Ambient Occlusion in the next gen version is a little bit too strong for my liking but other than that it's amazing.
hope they can bring back the strong wind
Hicistes un laburo absolutamente excepcional .. increible la manera en la cual llegas a percibir hasta el mas minimo detalle 😊
Personalmente me gustan muchos los detalles tambien, tomar mi tiempo para admirar lo mas que pueda ( aunque admito que hay veces en la cual mi naturaleza me lleva a querer ir rapido 😜 ) de hecho tengo varios screenshots de Mis juegos en Mis consolas justamente porque me gustan los detalles : un panorama, los rasgos de un rostro, el agua ( un detalle al cual siempre presto atencion porque parece ser dificil que se vea bien : hay juegos quienes ya tienen años y que se ven mejor en este aspecto que juegos recien salidos para la generacion actual ).
Enfin, me gusta mucho tu trabajo y hace año que lo sigo, y aunque no soy muy exigente en cuanto a los graticos, siempre es de admirar cuando los quienes desarollaron el juego toman el tiempo ! ❤
Un abrazo ! 😉
Excelente trabajo
The RT GI/AO adds so much to the city areas its shame to not use it... If CDPR fix those damn frame time stutters then I'm perfectly happy playing at 30fps (on PS5) to have the RT and better SSR.
I was also very surprised at just how much FSR2.1 cleans up an image that's barely over 1080p. Very good 👍
"Wind is no longer howling."
Uno de los mejores juegos de la historia, se ve precioso, estoy pasandomelo otra vez en Series X,
Hi! What's the name of the song under the video? The game looked and now looks gorgeous too by the way! Some more reflections and better lightning effects, but somewhere the old version is still a beast! Thanks for the comparing!
Overall it is honestly a little hit or miss. It's more hit than miss though. I liked the old, strong wind _way_ more. Overall lighting in some areas is definitely better in the old too.
One thing is for sure though, this was a _phenomenal_ comparison video, way better than most I've seen so far. Great job.
Quisiera que salieran más expansiones, y mejoras jugables en los menús, historias.... etcétera porque es un gran juego
Im currently trying to finish up the PS4 version via BC and I'm experiencing corrected saves and game crashes on 4.00 update. When i started the PS5 version, I hope all the issues are resolved by then. The PS4 version still looks good though.
i liked witcher 3 old water it used to give it a painting like look every frame used to look like a oil pastel painting piece of art
Man I miss this game one of the greatest games of all time :/ got 100% achievements on xbox
Just the hd textures are a relief
Some of the "improvements" for the next-gen version are very subjective. At 9:48, for example, they downgraded the texture of tents for something incredibly generic that looks like going from a 4K texture to 1K but at the same time they greatly improved the textures of the barrels and crates. Some of the vegetation looks very blurry and dark now compared to the old version. In some cases, it looks like someone asked "how much reflection on the water should we go for?" and there was a loud "YES!!!" It pops up so much that it makes bodies of water look weird and generic, like lifeless mirrors.
Gracias por el video.
Creo que dejando de lado los aspectos del Ray Tracing, los cambios no parecen haber sido tan grandes en lo PC.
Love the music man
Am I blind or the wind and the water look actually much better in the older version xDD
Honestly, after just looking at these very quickly, I prefer the oldgen in some of the scenes. Maybe as much as a third of them. (Aka. preferring nextgen in 2/3rds, and often by a larger margin than for those scenes for which it is the other way around.) Which goes to show that better realism isn't good in and of itself. Only if it is used in a way that actually makes things look nicer. Overall it's a great update though that makes the game look a lot better in a lot of scenes. Some scenes are really night-and-day better on nextgen. Very glad they updated it.
It also got an update for the ps4 users, now you can use the signs faster, and some texture are better now
There’s so much dynamism in the game’s weather effect on its environment… different level of movement of trees waving about in wind, or not moving at all etc.
No matter where you play Witcher looks great shows what you can do if you don't over bloat a game with gigantic open world and still lots to explore. I hope they don't change up their art style and stretch resources too high to get the fully open world in the new series.
Come round and see how "great" it looks on my PC then you can eat your words.
this is one of the few gaming comparison channels that give youa pretty good idea of the differences between different versions of games
The updated graphics actually look worse in some scenes aside from textures, ambient occlusion, and reflections. Feeling mixed so far and I think they should have left the game alone.
0:29 Updated Global illumination adds to interior looks but adds a dark yellow tint to the outside world
1:14 Again, godrays look splendid here and suddenly they look like they have been downgraded.
2:44 and 2:47 lighting looks MUCH better on old gen in this video capture.
3:23 Shadows seem to be improved but at the cost of a weird tint/too much darkness that makes the "newgen" seem like an actual last gen shot.
4:07 Look at this. Draw distance is "improved" because smoke was added? Too dark in areas and now the trees and bushes are barely moving at all. It looks rather bland.
4:27 Before and after as in many other instances. I would prefer the before. I really think CDPR should have not messed with this game. Hell the lighting, shadows, and rays look gorgeous compared to another bland "nextgen" shot. Is this really it?
I simply prefer the original art style and it seems like it has more of a vibrant and bright style compared to the upgraded version. Changes are subjective I guess but for me this just doesn't look like much of an upgrade and definitely not something they should have spent a year on if this was the result.
not to be rude but if u go outside, itll be clear that new gen is more realistic
Honestly, some things like wind and water seem to look better in the oldgen version of the game. Though, things like lighting, ambient occlusion, illumination look waaaaay more natural in newgen
I like new gen water for rivers, puddles and lakes, but the sea look so calm and it's so reflective that looks more like a giant glass mirror than an ocean
water is better in next gen
Great comparison
Finally , the dramatic stormy wind swept trees have been calmed down :p
Finally, a good comparison video.
La penumbra con trazado de rayos se ve horrible, trata de matizar el sombreado con mayor número de fuente de luz; pero, pierde sombreado; lo estoy jugando ahora mismo en las dos versiones. Y en ese detalle me gustaba más antes de noche.
Personalmente la iluminación "exagerada" de la old gen me parece mejor (personalmente)
Pero la oclusión ambiental es mejor en esta nueva versión.
Si tien mejor pinta la verdad
no
@@qbuenap A
Yo sólo pedía mayor distancia de dibujado, me encantaba ese color "gloomy"
This video literally made me install the game again, just to experience it with these new amazing and visually stunning graphics! The raytracking implementation in this game is extraordinary.
you need RTX 4080 when you want to play it with this "next gen" update and it doesn't look that better, it's just wasting of your HW power
The looks might be extraordinary ... but what good is that? The game is totally broken, stutters permanenty, shows even crashes and game breaking bugs. They ruined this bekoved masterpiece.
@@uteausmunchen7235 works fine for me on a series x
Si colocas una llama, se supone que tú sombra tiende a deformarse; soy muy fijado en esos detalles. Se supone que el trazado de rayos debería solucionar este aspecto, y el sombreado que se ve geométrico! aunque he visto que sigue sin comportarse realista.
The ray traced global illumination, and ambient occlusion are great. As are the improved textures and meshes.
The ray traced reflections have really bad pop-in presently though.
Why do the trees move less than on old gen? I always thought that the way they moved looked really good
Some trees looked funky on the old gen
Overall better but there is something in bright day light that make skin colour to white in comparison to the older version. Light is better now, just like reflections but the temperature and colours isn't always on point in my opinion. Like takeing a picture from the last gen Iphone and comparing it to some older Xiaomis photo.
is it just me or does the wind look much better in last version
I really miss the wind swaying the trees and grass. Why remove such a cool feature?
Please give us the wind back again :( :( We want the wind and storm :(
It was goofy and unrealistic, now it's dynamic.
Best comparison I've seen so far.
I dont get how your game looks this good, i have everything on Ultra+ and for example my trees look like a blurry painting, here in this video i can count the tree leaves one by one, what magic did you use???
So already that the game was magnificent, there I no longer have the words. You delight us! I can't wait to do it again, it's just beautiful. It's so realistic. Thank you very much for your work.
Delight? For ruining the performance of this masterpiece? The game is a stuttering mess now and totally unplayable on so many PCs.
I think its safe to say
The game was ahead of its time
The old version still has better graphics and more "living" world than any other game there is. Only RDR2 comes close.
why geralt not in the middle display ? i got motion sick, how to bring geralt in the middle display ?
0:43 my favorite!
I like the blowing wind and trees in old gen.
I think this will be the first game I ever buy in two consoles.
Played it originally on switch and the difference between both versions is colossal.
The switch version was the worst version and the best version is on pc and if you have a good pc then play it on that as you can add so many mods to the it which improves the graphics further. This is one game I will never buy for the switch as I've been playing it for many years on the pc and knew that it looks god awful on the switch.
What I noticed looking better is Radovid's ship and Geralt's chest hairs 😄
P.S. and someone washed floors in Kaer Morhen
notice how the trees in the remaster version fade in and out when the wind blows on them and the original doesn't which is good, thats why when you have a resmatered version that they change the animation and textures , its good to have an option that switches between the original graphics and new ones because there are some parts that the original graphics are better at doing than the remastered ones
Thank a lot! Its a good video!)
No hay tanta diferencia, cambios en el sombreado y poco más. Las adversidades climáticas se sienten más vivas en el old gen
Buenas, compara lo mostrado de the witcher 3 del E3 2014 (lo que mostraron antes y luego se acuso de donwgrade cuando salio) con el Nextgen
Siempre espero esas comparativas y nunca las hacen,tambien queria ver la de gow 2018 cuando mostraron su primer trailer en 2016 y se veia asombroso y se downgradeo de pana
El juego antes del downgrade se veía mejor que incluso esta nueva versión, pero qué importa a estas alturas? El juego es simplemente hermoso. La presentación del E3 fue solo eso, una presentación para dar hype.
@@jiren6346 busca el canal de nick930, el hizo esa comparacion. En algunas zonas se ve mejor la demo, en otras el producto final del 2018, en terminos generales, los personajes, texturas, y demas, mejoró muchisimo y en otras, como la iluminación, empeoró, kratos se ve mejor finalmente. Buscalo, no tiene desperdicio.
@@afra4664 no importa,solo me gusta comparar,y se me hacia interesante lo hermoso que se veia la iluminacion y los rayos de sol realmente se sentian,tambien la escena donde pelea con el draugr tiene muchisima mejores texturas y detalles cuando lo corta por la mitad,y como dices siempre pasa esto porque el trailer siempre tiene que ser mas visual y al final no importa para el jugador porque lo jugable siempre es mas gratificante que ver mejores graficos
11:35 Amazin!
I am playing the game on PS5 and quality mode. I am pretty sure that the frames drop to 20-25 in villages/cities and combat. At some point I had several crashes (5-6 in a random forest region in White Orchid area) but that seems to be fixed since then. I hope all that issues get fixed soon, cause it's my first playthtough and the game is addictive but the colours on perfomance mode seem too outdated for my personal taste.
Yeah, performance- mode just looks "video-gamey". Would be nice to have a slight resolution and framerate improvement on PS5/SX in the future..
The graphics look great and all but that music tho...fye 💯
What about the wolven armor collar, does half of Geralts face still clip trough it when looking sideways
Has anyone noticed that the RTGI causes a lot of bloom around things that are orange? It almost feels like they forgot to disable the artificial bloom from the game, but it's not bloom it's the game rendering global illumination that doesn't match the scene so you get this weird orange glow whenever there's a small amount of sand or an orange plant in direct sunlight.
To be honest i think lot of old vs raytracing, old looks better. Reflections with raytracing water just looks like a flat mirror while old gen it looks like real water.
I mean best upgrade is textures and vegetation. I play it with rt turned off and dx11 with my 3090, don ´t care about minor raytracing difference.
(10:36 tessellation seems better in old gen sometimes, like in those buildings here).
(14:24 and 15:22 i got the impresssion they decreased the wind in the next gen vertion, everything seems still)
muy bueno!
The updated reflections @9:21 look really weird, I preferred the old style
Even though the next generation update looks 100x better, I still appreciate the original version's art direction.
... and the performance. At least old gen was playable, the new one isn't.
Deberias hacer una comparacion entre esta version ultra pc con nintendo switch.
Finally a video showcasing correctly.
Haha did anyone else freestyle over the instrumental, its a fire beat
13:07 The water in the stream isn't even moving in next gen, Looks like glass the old version looks better in my opinion.
I will be playing the old version because it has more wind and water dosnt look like a mirror in old version . By the way this is going to be my first time playing .
My Xbox save files are gone. I’m crushed.. 🥴🥴🥴
I was going to start a new Game + game (post update) and it says I need to pick a completed save file. What can I do? I’ve seen so many people post about this… I haven’t seen any answers.
Please help.
Anyone noticed issues with combat sounds in next gen?
Aos 4:42 a versão antiga bem mais bonita. Notei também que perdeu bastante movimentação da ambientação, (vento) Ganhos e perdas! Mas melhorou muito os detalhes 👌
O vento diminuiu pra deixar as coisas mais realistas. Antigamente as árvores se comportavam como se fossem moles. Árvore não se move tanto assim na vida real.
@ Tudo bem mas no geral a movimentação fica mais bonita agressiva, só claro era muito robótica
@ você acha mesmo que numa grande tempestade as árvores se movem pouco ? A versão antiga era bem mais realista nesse ponto do que a nova .
draw distance is kinda not maxed out on ultra plus, if you crank those settings in the file it will look even better. i turned rtx off to get more draw distance
They did everything correctly, especially the global illumination and the shadows... but that sun glare effect bothers me.
I love this sound 😍😍👏🏻👏🏻
Its Pretty good
pity about the wind much better in old gen. I hope a mod comes out that restores it
RT Global Illumination makes a TON of difference. Cant play without it anymore as it give a game so much more depth. You dont see it always that much in static comparissons, but when you play and deactivate it, you really feel like thrown back 10 years in tech.
in the minute 6:16
in the left: a fuk*ng art painting
-the trees and grass simulating wind move
-the weather simulating the waves
- the light perfectly suggests that the sun is hitting your face
an entire team dedicated to creating an atmosphere
In the right: Oh wow a generic shadows and textures in high
Its too much in the old gen. Many complained about that. Its unrealistic. Thats why it has way less waves. Also The Witcher 3 has dynamic weather effects. So when it has waves in the Next Gen Version and Wind move