Let's Talk About The Toyota Prius
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I drove a Prius for work for several years and it saved me hundreds of dollars a month on gas. Then my wife drove that same car for several years and actually made a few hundred dollars each month because her job reimbursed her by the mile. By the time that car finally died it had more than paid for itself. My wife replaced it with another used Prius. It might not be the sexiest car, but I have other cars for that. Great video
More or less same story here. They are awesome appliances.
@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket the preset mileage reimbursement rate was higher than the actual cost of driving the Prius per mile. She drove long distances to reach job sites thus she would actually make money off the reimbursement.
But what was the cost to your soul? I enjoy driving the cars and motorcycles that I build. In no way would I ever sacrifice the whole point of building my cars and motorcycles by parking them and driving some infuriating POS on my way to work or get the groceries. That's the point of having cars you enjoy - to enjoy them when you inevitably have to drive somewhere you don't want to go - like work - at least you get the enjoyment of the drive there and back. If it gets less fuel mileage, then that's the cost of my enjoyment. The cost of driving a Prius would be selling my soul - and not being able to enjoy the vehicles I have built for myself.
@@AMurph79 it really ain't that deep bud. you ever driven a prius to work? it's pretty fucking comfortable and stress free.
@@AMurph79 it’s like you didn’t even watch the video, you’re in the group of car enthusiasts that Matt talked about. Not everybody builds their own cars or needs something fancy, they want an appliance. Not to mention that I love driving my 04 corolla around, I simply love how well it’s built and I love doing the occasional maintenance because nothing ever breaks.
The "6 hybrids vs 1 EV" angle is something I hadn't considered. SFM = entertaining and informative :)
Toyota has been saying this for years, and it's a valid point.
The only downside to this argument that I can think of is that batteries degrade over time and with such a small hybrid capacity by the time you hit 50000 miles, the battery would show at least 15% degradation assuming 1kwh in a hybrid. Larger batteries can eek out more before going through charge cycles thus lasting for longer mileage. Of course replacing the batteries at the end is a massive cost anyway. With BEVs, by the time you reach that stage you'd be well over 200k-300k miles
@@bharcooldude If that is a concern a smaller battery is easier and cheaper to replace than a large battery.
There's a similar point to be made with GMs since discontinued hybrid trucks and mild hybrid lineup. The mild hybrids were simple enough to be applied across the range for little cost, meaning you could see a few mpg difference on anything from a basic economy car to a luxury sedan and bring the whole fleets consumption down significantly.
Similarly the hybrid trucks didn't return crazy MPG but given the popularity of trucks a 15-20% increase across the board offers significantly more savings compared to a hatchback getting similar results in a country where hatchbacks were never terribly popular.
@@bharcooldude at our shop we usually change the EV battery pack on taxi racking up +300000km ( 180000 miles )
Engineering based humour, flat pack fabrication and now alliteration! This channel has it all.
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Cunning Linguist !
Genuinely impressed by that alliteration at the end.
I bet he usd ChatGPT ;-)
That was some Letterkenny level wordplay
The proliferation of alliteration in this nation needs sanitation. It's creation is not motivation.
Delightfully descriptive denouement.
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Dude you nailed it with the dishwasher comparison lol I’ve always been the odd one in the group who doesn’t name their cars. Personal attachment to an appliance is weird to me.
People name their cars?
I never did that. It's a car
@@Kaodusanya it’s actually incredibly common!
@@Kaodusanya it’s usually a girls name for the car, even amongst some female drivers. It probably carries on from when people named the horses they used to get around. It goes back decades if not a century at this point. Cars were called horseless carriages in the beginning. Considering how much time we spend in vehicles and their ability to make some people emote it’s not surprising people would give their modern horse a name.
I mean I don't name cars but im pretty attached to mine. I know of like one other person who names their car tbh
"The family minivan for people who are pretending they're not buying a family minivan" this is why I'm a fan, Matt
This isn't the offroad viper :(
Or a comically oversized scooter that we still know basically nothing about. What's your point? He made the sandwich.
:(
Or the hayabusa model T
Heeeeeyyyyy! You're right!
We’d rather the land speed car
The limited dishwasher sticker was absolutely incredible lol
I couldn't afford the Limited model, I only have the SR5 dishwasher. 🤷♂😂
lmfao that one definitely caught me off guard. It was GREAT
Thank you for your succinct rundown on this head car's transition into a heart car. Your dry delivery and self aware humor never ceases to entertain
His dry delivery is everything, isn't it? I've loved this guy for a couple of years now. I need to start paying him something on Patreon, me thinks.
Gen 2 Chevy Volt. Best plug-in hybrid ever. 53 mile battery could easily go 70 miles in town. When my Lucid showed up I couldn't bear to part with it. Eventually I convinced my wife to dump her beloved Subaru for the Volt. Now she's a convert too. GM screwed up cancelling that car.
Fair comments, Matt. I'd always been in the "Toyota are dragging their feet on going full EV" camp, but youve made some compelling points.
They are incorporating hydrogen for range
hybrids have been the sensible option for years now and i hate they dont really make diesel hybrids anymore
To be fair, EVs have a lot of new and different parts that make them hard to get right if you haven't built one before.
Like wheels. Very hard to keep them from coming off an EV. Toyota's working very hard on it.
@@why6212 the cost factor has also led to some questionable cost saving measures, like for example tesla gigacast parts just having massive cracks that you cant see unless u take it apart
Toyota is on the road to bankruptcy. They are the poster children for the incumbents who can not recognize phase change/disruptive tech.
GM did their homework with the range of the Volt. For most of my work driving I never used gas with my ELR.
TBH, when the 4th gen Prius came out in 2015 I was impressed. I liked the tail fin like rear styling, and it drive so much better than prior ones.
Cool rare car!
While I wish my i3 had a more than a 33 kWh battery, the scooter engine in the boot connected to a generator really saves the day for the for the longer, trips or in case of emergency. But on average I use it for less than 2% of the km i drive.
Exactly, it’s enough for most things. My eGolf has a bit more capacity than your bmw (36kwh), and it charges faster than yours…but it has no additional engine. Great for cost (no oil changes or so) but not to great for long, fast travels. It CAN do it if it has to, but i use my Mercedes for that. The Golf is great for everything under 200 miles (no charging stop), and decent for drives under 500-600 miles, and i love to drive it - any distance more than and i try to use another car, even if it’s the small SUV of my wife if nothing else is available…well it’s basically the same like you, but wit/ two cars instead of one who does both 😉👍
I bought a hybrid Corolla when they came out and I frigging love the car. It fits wonderfully into my life that semi-regularly consists of long road trips across Canada where EV chargers aren't super common to this day. It was either that or a Prius, but we had previously driven a rental Corolla in Australia for a bit and it was just a fun car. Doubly fun as a hybrid with extremely low fuel usage. Plus it's a Toyota and they have a proven track record of building reliable cars and hybrids, so what's not to like?
We bought a Prius V back in the day (6 years ago) because it was super reliable and it fit our requirement of being able to comfortably transport two couples and their luggage on a weekend trip. The fact that it was a hybrid was, if anything, a downside, because we were nervous about the tech. The only other car we were considering was the Outback station wagon, which matched the Prius V price exactly ($30K in 2014). However, the reliability reports for the Outback didn't even come close to the Prius, and thus the decision was made.
Now, at 150,000 on the clock, we've been ecstatically happy with the V. It still drives like a new car, and the only issue has been a tiny bit of rust starting in the past year and an incessant hunger for wiper blades. We'll probably keep it for another 100K, especially considering what's happening in the car world these days.
That's...... an interesting way to buy a car. Most people would have bought a rav4/CRV and moved on. Why exactly the extra ugly Prius V and not the many many other reliable Japanese station wagon ish vehicles?
@@jaredlancaster4137 Fuel economy, probably
@@jaredlancaster4137 most people in the States, maybe.
@@Validole In the States for sure, although the rav4 and CRV are strong sellers the world round.
Referring to six years ago as "back in the day" is laughable. Now you millenials need a new phrase for REALLY back in the day.
As a hoon.
When I crashed my e36 I used my fathers Prius to get around town. A few times I got an itch to go drive up my usual mountain road, so I did.
You’d think it’s super understeer-y but it wasn’t. The re-gen braking was amazing and it was very flick-able. The looks I got from the average subie-bro was hilarious.
man, you need to drive a Tesla.
I've always appreciated how Toyota completely nailed the Prius drivetrain. It's so different from any existing drivetrains at the time it came out, but very elegant and somehow, it worked quite reliable from the start.
They're soo reliable, that they are also ironically, worth nothing at a junk yard, because no one needs one! 😂 I'm thinking about adapting a prius drivetrain into a Polaris RAZOR for a hybrid UTV.... that could maybe also be a welding rig as long as I got all that juice, might as well do a 3rd magic trick right!?
I always appreciate alliteration. Thanks for that, Matt.
10:01 you just described the BMW i3 with range extender. 70mile EV range, with a moped engine to charge the battery. If only BWM wouldn’t have made it look so dorky (I have one. It’s a love/hate relationship).
Chevy had the answer in 2012
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Volt
With the latest BMW designs I think the i3 design looks better every day. It was just ahead of its time.
@@mattberube7371 and it's a powertrain concept that GM should have continued to build on for years, as a 50-60 mile battery range would likely suit most driver use cases, allow dino-juice range extender use as required for longer distances, AND allow GM to build more volume of cars with small battery packs...
The i3 REx engine is small for a car, but way too big for a moped. Perhaps you meant "scooter"... it is a maxi-scooter engine, used in the BMW C650 GT.
I had an i3 as a loaner when I took my 5 series for a service. I hated it, didn't feel like a BMW, didn't drive like one, wouldn't even break traction on a gravel road with the traction control turned off and the interior was weird, not bad but nothing like a BMW. If it was a Renault it would have made sense.
my mate had a Prius second hand (ex-hire car), drove it housepainting every day for 8 years, with waterblaster and spray equipment on back seat, cans of paint and equipment everywhere. All mechanics would do a double-take when they looked at the odometer: 500,000km. Finally died around 560,000km. absolute beast of burden.
It's good to have you Objectively Evaluating (tm) new automobiles. Thanks, Matt! I just might give this one a try before going for a Corolla!
That car looks cool. I’d buy one. You are definitely right about the notion of “ what we need is something inbeteeen a hybrid and a fully electric car. “
it's taken me so many long and incredibly confused years to understand that all hybrids weren't that to begin with - let alone formulate the then obvious question "WHY IN HELL NOT?"
I'm glad they finally made it look good.
I agree! I never understood why they were making all the hybrid cars look like that. I’ll say it this looks pretty good
You can get a Camry or Corolla hybrid that doesn’t look like a spaceship.
@@aygwm The new Prius looks better than both of those.
@@aygwmwhat if I want a spaceship
And tbh, all 3 cars mentioned look good
"i need my car to look normal" is such a nerd thign to say lol@@aygwm
The appliance comparison is a pretty good one, as that's pretty much what my car is as well. All it needs to do is get me to places, and that's it.
Gotta say Toyota is nailing the new designs, I love how the red Yaris looks in particular
Unfortunately it's still called "Yaris"
Corolla XSE sedan is also a really good looking car, as are many camrys now. I work at a Toyota dealer and it's nice that I get to to stare at some quite pretty machines, especially compared to 10-15 years ago.
@@UnitSe7en doont care
I don't see it.
this looks like a chevy volt + a stepped on tesla
Absolutely. This new Prius, the Yaris and the Rav 4 all look great. Toyotas cars used to look boring at best and straight up ugly at worst (2nd gen Prius) but not anymore.
@SuperfastMatt The interesting thing about this latest gen Prius is is that it is incredibly similar to the 2nd gen Chevy volt. Volt had 53 miles of range and the new Prius looks like it took a lot of it's aesthetics from the 2nd gen volt as well. As you say in your video there are a lot of desirable qualities of a 40+ range phev has which is what us volt owners have been saying for awhile. Sadly the volt ended production in 2019. I'd be interested in your thoughts on a video explaining the downfall of the volt and if this Prius improves upon it at all as to avoid the same fate? Love all your videos! Keep up the good work!
It was a Chevy, if you're looking for reliability you don't buy a Chevy. I think it's really that simple, oh and it was ugly.
@@JCJW101 Damn right! I've got one and in 120k I've had to replace 3 sets of tires already, and a 12v battery too! And I do a lot of highway driving -over it's life I've only managed about 70mpg. S U C K S.
@@christalbert722 Hahaha, an exception doesn't make a rule. It's still ugly and Chevy has a bad reputation, 1 car that has now stopped production won't change that. If I was wrong GM would have sold loads and it would still be in production.
You could call me hardcore car guy. I bought a Prius 2nd gen used about 10 years ago and loved it. Replaced the main battery with the good used one for about $1,200 installed. Never had issues with the car. You can camp in it with the rear seats folded down and the climate control on. The gasoline engine will only kick on once or twice briefly through the night. Sold it with 350,000 Mi still running well but some fool hacked out my catalytic converter. Looking to buy another Gen 2.
Matt - what a great video! You are the first performance auto enthusiast I have ever heard who gave a balanced report on the Prius, and I don't think it's because they primed you with food and drink!
I suppose I shouldn't be surprised to see you here, even if he does rather less bending and more laser cutting than your usual fare 🙂
Did NOT expect to see you here! 😅
Maybe the Prius needs some slick new aluminum seats? Or maybe the Jaguar does…
Hybrid is the way to go IMO. With gas engines having 100 years of tech advancement we could use that to make really good small generators for the EV systems and like you said, there's no way we will be able to strip mine enough battery minerals to switch EVERYONE over in such a short amount of time like law makers are asking. Having an "EV" that can go 30-60 miles for around town use and then flip the gas engine on to charge itself back up is much more feasible. Toyota should put out a documentary on how companies strip mine battery minerals and maybe they will get more hybrid support lol
I wasn't aware there was such a stereotype around Prius owners, but your description perfectly nails my own relationship with my Prius and how I feel about cars in general. I'm not sure I would buy another one in current year given all the EVs around, but watching this has absolutely validated the one I've owned for the last decade.
This video was absolutely fantastic and on point, especially your bit comparing the dishwasher to a car, absolutely brilliant and on point. Keep it up!
your use of alliteration is awesome
Minicab and uber drivers love them over here in the UK, for a long time they were the only practical way to get into the low emissions zones in cities without paying and they got cheap/free road tax. Not unusual for the lower end minicab (uber have killed most of these off now) to be running an old prius with a dead battery pack, they don't care if the electric motor never works they still get the "low emissions" bonuses.
One of the most incredibly impressive, comprehensive and fun videos I have ever watched on TH-cam. Overwhelmed even.
Since first sight of this new gen Prius i was impressed and for the first time thought "I wouldn't mind one as a daily". Especially the prime version, I really like the idea of a 50-80 mile electric range with an ICE as backup for roadtrips. The ideal vehicle for me would be a 4runner prime w/ fair ev only range while getting solid gas mileage for roadtrips but still having some whits about it on the technical terrain. Maybe it is a bit of a pipe dream but if that came out, I would all over that vehicle.
I'd seriously consider a new Corolla/Camry hybrid sedan as a daily if I was looking at new cars
I second the idea of a 4Runner Prime.
4runner prime with 300 miles electric range would be my minimum requirements to switch to electric.
it would also need to get to full charge in 30 minutes.....that would match the meals and stops cycle of a long trip.....and probably finally meet most peoples needs...
@kazzxtrismus do you realize that the prime versions are just plug in hybrids? They don't want to get to 300 miles of electric range. They want to do like 50 to save money and resources on batteries and use existing engines.
@@TheBCninja i can do 500 miles in a day on any given day, randomly, with nearly no notice.....this happens at least once a week to almost everyone in construction.
my job may require that a little more commonly than most...but its totally the normal way 1/3rd of the economy works.
...so about 1/3rd of the economy burns 5-10x the gas of the average white collar office staffer..........tell me again how youre "trying to make a real difference"
The new Prius reminds me of that scene from MIB 2. "Old and busted." *_gestures to all previous Prius models_* "New hotness." *_gestures to new Prius_*
I love cars, I see the Prius as a good daily. I've got a 2016 with 225k miles. It has been a dead reliable dishwasher. Helps offset the sc300 that is 2jz swapped.
I like this video. And this channel.
I used to hate hybrids and electric cars but then I realized I don't like cars because of their powertrains, I love them because they are cars. I'm lucky enough to live in Sweden and own a Volvo V90 T8 recharge. 90% of our driving is electric and the other 10% is when I feel inspired and want to use the combined 450-ish horsepowers to smoke the neighbors BMW.
All cars are awesome, even the boring ones
That alliteration at the end was, how shuld I say, perfectly precise pontification 😂 great video!
Ive always said the same thing. The real solution is a drivetrain that's all electric with just a gas generator to recharge the battery while you drive. Something very much like the BMW i3 Rex. Via Motors also had a pretty neat idea as well. All cars need to drop drivetrains with wheels connected to ICE engines. Only electric motors should be connected to the wheels.
The dishwasher analogy was on point.
we had one on the farm for years it was the go get the part that is small enough to fit in the Prius so you don't have to drive the dam truck 200miles to pick up a hydraulic pump the size of a gallon of paint heck i think i put close to 400lb pistons in the back of it at one point that had to go out to be rebuilt i am 5'11 size 13 feet and weight 225 and it had plenty of leg shoulder and head space in it (a bit boring to drive but way more money left in the wallet i think we put around 130k miles on it)
After I learned about how the ecvt system worked I started really to love the prius platform. Mechanically interesting and does what its meant to do well.
I am a Prius driver. I drive a Gen 2 Prius because there was one in the family when I got my licence. My grandparents live 6hrs drive away and it could get there and back on its 40L of petrol. That's pretty neat. Also it's surprisingly good at doing 100kph up a mountain, and surprising people by burning them off at lights. It works well. It has a personality (albeit perhaps because it's 18 years old and makes some Noises). I like it.
That charger sounds really exciting. Personally I'm a huge fan of jet driven cars, like the howmet tx and/or the chrysler turbine. Good luck.
i'm sad the offroad viper won the "voting" instead of the turbine
@@kaiserruhsam The sandwich won, but the viper is clearly next in line
You had me rolling at fanny pack and transition lenses, then crushed it with a 40 word alliteration. "Cool Prius" -Matt?
Love the variety! Always a good day when one of your videos drop.
I congratulate you sir, you convinced me to watch a 10 minute advertisement for a car I once despised. When they came out I used to say “At the front of every backup is a Prius”. I don’t believe that is true anymore. When I first bought my Subaru, the car had a reputation of being driven by polite people. I have worked diligently to try to tarnish Subaru’s record by driving mine like a douche. I think others have been enjoying your method of playing the Prius’s video game and not every Prius driver is a knob anymore.
imagine a modified one at a car meet(widebody kits, spoiler etc) heck they may make a TRD version now that it does look sporty(the prius before wasnt something to be messed around with either. you could rally a prius or drive it off road)
Japan has already started modifying them, there's a few tuning houses playing around with it.
We had the 2008 Gen 2 as well as the 2012 Gen 3 and drove them hard. No hypermiling, but still got over 40 mpg on the Gen 2 and 50 mpg on the Gen 3. Both lasted over 10 years and well over 200k miles. The first 7 to 8 years were a breeze. Super low maintenance and hardly any issues. They were only burning through lightbulbs, till we replaced the halogenes with LEDs. Not a big deal, really. Though, after 7 years oil consumption increased and the brakes started having issues. After 9 to 10 years, they had issues with the electronics - ABS system on the 2008, entertainment system in both - and the engines. The battery died on the 2008, also. We still got some money for them as we let them go. For those, the low cost of ownership is hard to beat, especially for those who drive a lot. The were super practical, too. Lots of room for people and luggage. The only things really bothering me were low ground clearance (speed bumps, dips and steep driveways were challenging) and constantly worrying about that the catalytic converter is getting stolen, even though we had CatSecurity shield installed.
I did not really experience them as dangerously slow cars, either. The power of both motors were sufficient to get going in normal traffic, and you can drive them fast enough in order to go with the flow in the inner lanes.
The new Prius looks like a really good car, which is fun to drive. There is a bummer, though. Toyota does not protect the catalytic converter of the Gen 5 against theft from the factory, even though they know that this is a problem for years. Instead, dealerships are instructed to sell catalytic converter theft protection shields as add-ons. The company claims that the catalytic converters of the Gen 5 Prius are less attractive to thieves as they contain less valuable metals. Is this enough to keep thieves from targeting this car? Time will tell, I guess.
With the range of projects you've made, I'm a bit surprised you don't tend to work on your dishwasher.
I'm definitely biased as I just spent a few weeks trying to fix our 20 years old one and ended up having to replace it with a newer version.
Definitely stayed loyal to the brand, working on the old one let me see how good it truly was. And not just the user facing surfaces (like Apple's build "quality").
At the end of the video, that was some well proportioned practical pontification.
It's been a number of years now since my first and only experience driving a Prius, but it's still as close to the handling of a Go-Cart as I've ever experienced at highway speed. Way to keep life interesting, Toyota. All Hail the Algorithm!
You need to seek out better karts than the ones at your local putt-putt palace.
@@EUC-lidPointing out that the Prius is not a go cart is not helpful. Do you know of a street legal car that handles more like go carts than the Prius?
@@creativecraving If you think a Prius handles like a go kart then a Miata would feel like an F1 car.
The Prius does drive pretty well. But, it is far from a “proper” sports car. I’d say it drives like a small sedan designed to be a good all around car, which is what it is.
@@NBSV1 😂 It's my dream to afford a Miata as a second car. When I do, I'll call it my F-1 car! Thanks for that idea! 😂
I've never driven a Prius, nor seen the original version that the OP is talking about. I assume it felt like a go cart to him because of having a shorter wheel base than normal, or something like that.
@@creativecraving my main point was that real karts (not the putt-putt ones) go highway speeds and don't handle anything like a Prius.
As the owner of a Prius V wagon, I appreciate this video.
Yes, the Prius is slow. No, it's not flashy. But it does exactly what it promises, every time. As you said "It's always done what it's supposed to do."
It's not the car you dream about, but it's the car you can count on.
When I bought it, I needed something that had a decent amount of space (kid + large dog), and that wouldn't break down or cost a ton to keep on the road. The Prius has done this, flawlessly.
In 5 years it's never needed anything besides routine maintenance. Insurance is $70/month. Even parts (if I ever needed them) are dirt cheap.
I'll probably buy something more fun, when it makes sense. But in the meantime, the Prius has been a loyal soldier, and I'll always appreciate that.
This essay is spot on! Thanks for your work and I hope this format continues for every other significant car out there!
It’s funny, I am a Prius enthusiast- to be fair my mom had one so I grew up in middle school and highschool driving one- but I have been dreaming of owning one for years- and now I do, and I love it
I definitely like the new design and added power. I'm currently driving an NA 2.0 6 speed gen X civic, if it ever dies I'd definitely consider one of these.
Only at 98k so hopefully a lot of life left though, and I average 37mpg so no money to be saved by upgrading.
And the insight was badass! 5 speed manual, digital dash and a/c was an option, it was a full fledged sports car!
full aluminum unibody too! iirc curb weight on ac manual cars is somewhere in the neighborhood of 1850lbs
I understand the perspective of smaller batteries for the sake of only having the battery for your "most of the time" driving and especially from the perspective of a manufacturer.. But as a consumer, I see that as getting some of the upsides of both (ice and EV) while getting all of the downsides of both. I've been driving an EV for 5 years now. And having had next to zero maintenance in those five years has been a huge perk for me. A perk that you lose if you slide an ice engine in alongside your electric one. Not to mention, still having to go to a gas station, even if less often, and long charge times as one of the drawbacks of electric.
I always liked your timing and dead pan delivery, but your writing on this one is above and beyond... informative research, creative and hilarious. And dare I say, compelling. I guess it is time for me test drive a Prius. Well done.
I was absolutely stunned when I saw the new 5th gen Prius. It looks sooo much better than previous generations
Ive always been a Mazda guy. They do a lot of stuff with the same spirit and reliability as Toyota except they're way more fun to drive and look and feel more high quality (and better car designs imo) for a very very good price based on those aspects.
I love how they look, I love how they drive, I love theyre really good gas mileage, I love theyre good price compared to other vehicles at similar prices, and I love their reliability.
Spot on assessment I’d say. It does look a lot better now.
Owner of a 2003 XV10 Prius here. By the end of the first gen XV10 they were getting well over 50 MPG. Mine gets an easy 720Ks out my 40L tank.
As an engineer, I absolutely love this channel.
As a racist and misogynist, me too.
3:40 Man, I still remember when HHLA was called The Promenade. Surprised that place is still alive. It was dying 10 years ago when I moved out of Marina del Rey
me while matt describes toyotas that enthusiasts are excited about: little does he know about my love for my previa
me 5 seconds later: he does know...
I have an ‘07 Prius that I LOVE… Because I live in a city. It’s the easiest car I’ve ever driven here - great sight lines, super easy to park and 55+ mpg in the city! I fill up about once every 2 months.
They did a great job on the styling of this new model.
The Prius is great at what it does, and as someone who's driven them quite a bit, the only thing about it is that most Prius drivers get so used to it they simply forget how slowly they're moving compared to other people behind them on the road because the subdued quiet ride never makes them think about maneuvering, just slowly gliding towards their destinations.
@superfastmatt did you ever look at the Chevy Volt or BMW i3 REX? You mentioned battery-powered with a gas backup generator as a solution for commuters and I always wondered why more car companies didn't got that route. They are both objectively gremlin-ugly, but we are comparing to the Prius.
For context I have put +10k miles on my i3 rex and a total of $15 of gas in it. The generator kicks in once a month for a maint cycle and I only run on gas when I forget to charge for a few days.
The Volt is not just a series hybrid; it is much closer to the Prius in design (using the power-split hybrid pattern), but with additional transmission modes.
@@brianb-p6586 It’s my understanding that the gen 1 volt was a pure series hybrid but the gen 2 is a power split hybrid.
@Jordan Jones that is not correct. No Volt was ever just a series hybrid. The first generation Voltec transaxle (4ET50) had 4 modes, and the second generation (5ET40) has 5 modes. They are derived from GM's earlier "2-mode" power-split hybrids.
Great job on the video Matt! Thanks for making it.
Hey Matt. I wish you had mentioned that the Chevy volt owned this space and GM totally f#$% it up when they discontinued the Volt.
I loved the 15' prius I had for work. I masshed the throttle all the time 110 on the way to Nevada and still got 30mpg. My main gripe, horrible seats, I have no butt, seat foam composition and geometry is important for long drives.
Another great video! Couldn’t agree more that the Prius is definitely the realistic and great solution that we need now vs full-electric. Really just a numbers game with what we can do with todays tech and resources. Cheers!
Prius is most popular car among Uber drivers in Warsaw. Auris Hybrid is second most popular. Electric motor taking over starts makes a lot of difference from wear perspective. Especially in cities.
The thing I've always liked about cars like the pruis, is that you can mess around in them and when you're being questioned by the officer you can point at the "tastefully clapped" civic driving in the other direction.
That transitional car you described near the end sounds an awful lot like a Chevy Volt. Seems to me like Toyota is following in their footsteps this time.
(We have a Gen3 Prius and a Volt, like them both).
Hybrids have always really made more sense than pure EV and will likely continue to for some time to come. It covers more use cases and also helps pad battery degradation. It's one thing to lose 50 miles of range permanently, as that drastically affects the useability of a vehicle. Hybrids easily make up for that by just running the engine more often, so instead of a car that wears out in 5 years for some people, it might never really wear out as you could always just use it without EV at all if you needed to.
It's also much cheaper to swap this battery that's small, as opposed to the one that's over half the floor area and structural to the car, once it croaks.
@@EgorKaskader EV batteries croak well after the rest of the car has worn out. Also electric drive trains are moving quickly toward being cheaper than an internal combustion one.
@@Clearphish The rest of the car, aside from suspension, has very limited wear; the battery cells, meanwhile, are normally rated to no more than 1000 power cycles (full charge followed by full discharge, cutoff to cutoff). Now, obviously enough, few people will take theirs cutoff to cutoff for 1000 days, so a lifespan of the battery isn't 3 years, but 5-10 depending on its use. The rest of the car can easily last 20, as there's no ICE to wear piston rings, clutch, or to run high force metal on metal contacts, only electric motors and fairly simple gearboxes. The suspension has to cope with more weight, but aside from silent blocks, it's not hard to design it to last just as much as that of an ICE car. So yes, all else being equal, it is always the battery that wears out first.
@@EgorKaskader Things keep changing. "On average, Tesla owners can expect at least 267 miles of range on a single charge of their car's battery. According to Tesla CEO Elon Musk, your Tesla batteries are supposed to last for 300,000 to 500,000 miles, or 1,500 battery cycles. That's around 22 to 37 years for an average person." 🙂
I drive a GS450h & a Leaf this new Prius is compelling as charging infrastructure is not great on long trips which I do monthly. Also a lot of new multi dwelling housing in cities do not have parking with charging.
Seems like a great car! Can't wait to see the even greater mark ups dealers have on these rn lol
7:23 i'm in tears man, too good.
Good summary of Prius' place in the marketplace; will be interesting if Toyota can tune the Prius for more enjoyable handling than numb understeer. #GRprime ?
That's the longest and most seamless string of alliteration used that I have heard at the end. Holy Moly!
I think you almost exactly share my opinion on Prius. I have never owned one, but have ridden in them and have see the general appeal. Cost wise, I never felt the hybrids gave a significant ROI for the draw backs. My current auto is in good condition and I expect it will last another 5-10 years. I do believe it will be my last pure octane ICE, but will the next be full ev, a hybrid, or something else?
The secret to the Prius is it handles like a fwd car with 300lbs sitting in the trunk. So when you figure out how to get it to lift oversteer and scandi flick, you can really hang the back out on gravel and snow.
I didn't know the "annoying Prius driver" meme still had adherents, like it's 2005. I think it's a figment that lives in the imaginations of online car and truck guys and literally nobody else. I think when most people see a Prius nowadays, especially an older one, they think it's a work car- either ferrying passengers or deliveries, kind of the way Crown Vics/etc occupied specific labor niches in years past.
I bought a prius C because I wanted a pretty good appliance. Thats literally how i described it so I loved that you said that. I am not one of the two people you outlined who buys a prius tho.
Im the guy who just bought a reliable shitbox thats easy to work on so that I dont have to work on it and I can focus on actual fun stuff, fun stuff that isnt a car. I embrace the appliance narrative wholeheartedly because dude I just want to get to work and I literally dont care.
My other vehicle is a 7.3 IDI E series short bus that I swapped a 5 speed stick into, now we're talking about connection, emotion and memories.
Thanks Matt, this is the Prius curiosity video i wanted, because it looks cool now. ish.
I just bought a 3rd gen for commuting as my 04 Ram 2500 diesel was murder on fuel costs. Its a great car. Always driving 80+ mph on the freeway and still getting 38+ mpg.
Unfortunately I'm nearly 100% certain if I were a car I would be a Prius. Practical, efficient, and loved reminding my teachers of homework. Much like the Prius now that I'm older, that early hard work has helped my life seem a bit cooler now. Thanks for saying what every rational engineer has been saying for years.... Hybrids are a much better solution than full EVs for now.
the hybrid synergy drive has evolved/refined over each iteration, electric motors getting more and more compact, with more torque and power while being more efficient. the eCVT was a good design from the start but they made small improvements like adding more planetary gear sets and clutches, that makes it more complex but perform better
My next car is probably going to be a Prius V. Install a new battery, and I heard you can change up the motor inverter for use as a huuuge electricity generator, and that just sounds nifty.
Prius cars aren't disliked. It's the drivers. It's the people that are "optimizing" their gas mileage by going so slow in fast lanes, coming off the line from a light at a snail's pace, forgetting they're not the only ones on the road and mostly, they're self rightous.
This is the best Prius review I have ever watched! Toyota should hire you as a regional manager!
I'm glad they finally made it a PHEV. 44 miles on a charge is probably enough to go shopping and run errands without using any fuel.
Our Gen 2 Prius fell apart (needed a new engine and battery in year 6) and the dealership charged insane prices for problems that should have been under warranty but magically weren’t (defective headlights that “weren’t defective” because there was a required upgrade for any replacements). After our local dealership lied to our face about a needed battery repair, we sold it and won’t buy a Toyota any time soon.
Amazing how the hood and the windscreen are the same angle
Thoughts on the Chevy Volt? It had about 40 miles of electric range with a gas generator in 2010. Not 220hp like the new prius, but still pretty close to the ideal you describe
I bought a Chevy Volt a couple years ago and I think it's still the best hybrid ever made with it's 60 mile range.