For all the people commenting "where can I get one" or something along the lines of "revolutionary ". I would encourage you to check out the history of wood gas. These systems have been around for, if I remember correctly, the 1800s. They tend to pop back up during fuel shortages and are a great idea but you will either need a Fabricator to make one for you or be capable of building one. During the second Word war all of the taxis in Paris were required to run on woodgas due to fuel shortages. There was even a tank capable of running on wood gas I believe.
@@bonsang1073 thats cause as a whole society were beyond that. but. as burnheretic said. for when any kind of shtf event happens. this is one of the better options. theres lots of literature out there. plans and other stuff. u can even store the gas when not running the generator in a floating bell. (there were many of those in the late 1800´s early 1900. ) u could also compress the gas in a cilinder and run a vehicle out of that compressed cilinder.
Nice Stainless steel set up, i like those cam clamps on the connections - i'm going to copy that idea on my unit. I would note that since the energy density is lower on the producer gas it takes a larger engine (generally) to run the generator that was originally sized for that engine. my first run - i used a 9Hp honda engine to replace the 3.5Hp original on an old generator - this worked pretty well with the 9Hp actual output on wood-gas being about 3Hp - so close to the sizing for the original engine and generator set up. If you used the original engine sized for this 45Kw generator i suspect you would have difficulty making more than 15-20 kw on woodgas. A larger displacement engine may be the solution if you want to get 45Kw but nothing wrong with a 15-20 Kw set up. Just my bit. Thanks for posting.
*Listen to the incredible noise levels of everything in full operation ! This setup needs its own soundproof mini-building just to keep it as quiet as possible, and out of The Weather. @ 45 KiloWatts this is an enterprise level operation.*
wgc1444 Very nice. I did see the switch after I sent the ?. Mine on single phase is running at 240 volts and yours looked like 220. What is the open topped stainless drum on the gasifier?
engineer775 Practical Preppers I can run at 240v. It's adjustable. I figured at 220v I'd get an extra 15 amps. The open topped drum is a wood chunk drier. The radiator fan above it drives warm air down to a 4" port and using a clothes drier hose, it's hooked to the bottom of the chunk drier. Victory sent it with the gasifier. I'm not sure why they put the heavy duty flange on top with all the holes.
Have you tried making bio diesel with that thing?.. if it can drive that generator it must put out some serious syn gas and if it's clean you should be able to flow the gas through a catalyst and then condense it into bio diesel. Victory Gasworks people claim they can do it but I can't find a video on it...would be fun to the yield and what catalyst work best at what pressure.
I would love to make biodiesel from my gasifier. I'll check with Victory, since I'm a valid customer to see if they will forward me any information. To date, there are a few people on youtube who claim that they are producing biofuels through the condensing process to clean the gas for engine consumption, but I don't have a lot of confidence that they know what they're doing. It would be awesome if we had an organic chemist out there from the petroleum industry to help us with what catalysts we need and what temperatures, etc. Unfortunately I think they might consider us the competition.
Well open source is gaining ground so there might be an engineer out there with some experience. I know several airlines are using bio jet fuel which is basically kerosene and it burns really cleanly. Kerosene and diesel is close to being the same thing. I know MIT and the RAND corp. did a report on alternative jet fuels and in the bibliography there's some pretty good scientific source listed. I'm going to way of a multi chambered gasifier with the reaction chamber from refractory cement so you can run continuously and scale the syngas output to match comsumption and not just have one big stainless steel reaction chamber.
He could hook a couple of large hydrogen fuel cell generators up to it that would definitely put a load on it and if it worked he could produce an even cleaner burning and more combustible and more stable gas that he could actually compress then chill into a liquid state compressing it even further and using it for fuel later put in wood get out super high density highly efficient fuel 😀👍
I have a 50KVA generator. It is a diesel Ford engine as good as new. I am in a rural rain forest of Africa, technically the grid does not exist. Can I apply this gasification technique on my generator? I ask due to the fact that my engine is a diesel and not a gas type. Thanks
If your ford diesel has spark ignition, you can use pure gasifier gas. If not, you will have to combine the two. It will still take some diesel to get the cylinder to fire under compression and you can add gas from a gasifier to reduce your diesel requirements. I would add gasifier gas to the intake with air mixture, then reduce the amount diesel to the injectors until it runs rough, then add a little diesel back in until it runs smooth again.
@@markwerner8089 Thanks actually, I run the system as in fumigation mode with LPG gas. However, LPG gas is also becoming very expensive. I would like to switch over to biomass.
@@MrObi1canobi That’s interesting! One would think with all the cooking oils and oil changes in cars it would be abundant if you can collect it from nearby towns. I’d be weary of running woodgas in a diesel, let alone one of such size and cost. It’s going to create a lot of maintenance for you. If you really want to burn them for electricity I think you’d be better off selling your generator and getting something specifically made for the task. A generator that size is worth good money where I’m from.
Clearly the best looking Gasifier made! The guy must work at a winery with all those pipe clamps and stainless that was used to build it. I wish he could send me the plans, so I can build one. I wonder how long it will supply fuel with a single burn of the wood put in it.
Fantastic build! I'm curious to know if the genny consumes more or less fuel when all loaded up from hungry devices, welders, ac units etc? What is an average wood consumption per hour? Another channel has it that a pound of wood equates to 1.3 miles in his gasifier/pickup truck. I'm wondering if similar ratios can be figured out in a gasifier to genny marriage? Any thoughts?
Would be interested to see a real load test by a load bank on this. Would see actual figures for power rather than a tiny drill. Does it actually produce the rated output of 45KW.
Yes, that would be good info to know. From what I’ve seen - SynGas has roughly 35% lower power rating as opposed to fuels like gasoline, propane, nat gas, etc. If I had to guess, I’d say it’s generating somewhere in range of 24kw to 32kw.
@@jay90374all you have to do is provide the same rpm as when burning gasoline. This generator was originally set up for natural gas. All you have to do is provide whatever amount of syngas needed to maintain the target rpm to provide full power.
How do you govern the fuel? This shown is runnong at no load then say 5 amps for drill. Say you load the genset to max It would stall unlrss you could increase the gas by a huge amount. How is this accomplished?
It pulls however much wood gas it needs through vacuum demand. If the engine needs more gas, the gasifier will cook the wood faster to supply the engine's needs.
I wonder how much wood per hour this thing would consume and how well it would run at 80% of the 45kW design. That gasifier looks pretty solid. Most I see on videos look kind of unrefined. I wonder the quality of the gas that is output. I hear the FEMA designs are dirty.
Hi. First let me say I was blown away. Nice video all though some explanations would be helpful. Is heating not a factor? I mean engine overheating by the dryness of the gas itself. being a gas operating engine. I know gas converted cars usually don’t last that long.. is that a concern at all?
How many lbs of material per hour burned to capacitate this set up!!! Beautiful parts by the way ...some one has a lathe or access to damn good millwright! Well done man!
That question was asked and answered somewhere in these comments. I believe 4 or 5 18 inch long sticks about 6 inxhes in diameter will burn for at least 4 hours.
Could i use a smaller version, maybe 20kw, to make electricity for average size home? I could save about 100 euros per month electricity bill, i have a forest in backyard.
@@learningforsuccessk12andbeyond But why isnt this very common? I cant find anything about it on web, thats why i asked, i assumed there are some downsides...
@@beeqool Think of this setup as a mini power plant. The major downside is that, like the power companies, the power plant must be constantly manned to run efficiently. It's not just a flip a switch and walk away operation. Someone must be there to constantly monitor the operation, including preparing the wood chunks for the next batch to put in the hopper. The wood has to be split and chunked to the proper size, then dried, then added to the hopper about every four hours. If you use it along with batteries that charge during the day, you'll run the gasifier for about 12hours a day. That's 3 fills of the hopper and the prep of the wood for each load. That's a full time job.
Your best bet would be to run an oversized generator into a battery bank. Only run it for a few hours per day that way. It’ll take a good amount of battery and inverter to work properly.
There are sooo many things I can do with this gasifier: I can run a 45KW generator as seen here and power a whole neighborhood. I can load it up onto my truck and drive on wood. I can pump it into a 10K gallon bladder tank and store it for later. From the bladder tank, I can use an air compressor and fill mine and other's LP tanks. I can also pipe it to my hot water heater and furnace, power my wood miser saw mill, and also use it to fuel an ethanol still for producing liquid fuel! Some people say I can even make bio-gasoline and bio-diesel directly from the gas, but I haven't seen a reliable simple process for that yet. Can anyone provide some intelligent input on this?
The gas coming off that setup will be mostly CO (carbon monoxide) with a bit of hydrogen and a hint of methane - along with nitrogen from the air it consumes. Since it appears pretty well designed I'd assume most of the hydrocarbon chains are being 'cracked' in the extremely hot hearth - therefore, you'd struggle to get any liquid fuels from the gas without a very expensive setup and a complicated process. If you want liquid fuels from wood in a DIY fashion you need to condense 'dirty' wood gas from zero oxygen pyrolysis, then further refine/distil the produced sticky sludge. The zero oxygen (air-free) environment prevents CO production (fire) and pretty much eliminates the nitrogen content - you'll get some surplus hydrogen/methane that you can redirect and use in the heating process. With zero oxygen pyrolysis most of the 'C' (of the 'CO') will remain as charcoal when the process is complete, because you didn't allow it to 'burn' and combine with the 'O'. The rest of the 'C' will remain bonded to 'H' (in chains of varying lengths) in the sticky sludge. You can burn the 'C' (charcoal) later to pyrolyse the next batch of wood. BTW, this method is great for turning waste plastic into liquid fuels.
Do you know engineer775? if so you are probably close to me. Would you mind if I came to see this? The last time I checked victory only made a 5kw unit. Is that what this one is?
Yes, Engineer775 and I are friends, although I live in Georgia, south of Atlanta. As I am running this particular generator, this is obviously a 45kw unit. What determines the capacity of the unit is the size of the hearth, which is based closely to the FEMA gasifier sizing chart. If you order a victory unit, simply tell them what engine hp you want to run.
What type of fuel do you use in your gasifier. Also could you store the gas produced by the gasifier for use later on or would it be too flammable to compress since it would have an oxygen mixture with it. Or could you produce a hydrogen fuel cell plant with this technology producing a much more flammable and stable gas for storage. And the last question is how long will this run without adding any more fuel?
Wood gas is best produced on demand, not stored, as its energy density is quite low - about 1/10 of that of natural gas. While technically doable, there isn't much benefit to it; you're better off storing the energy by charging up a battery bank.
@@george.b. really a 1/10? i was reading and understanding they have major system in Kenya with the government and doing 3000 psi tanks... They stated 60-65%. I', have a tree removal business & small farm and 1/2 way researched these several years ago.. KW up to 13 cents and gas over $3 .No more procrastinating..
I haven't had a situation yet to do a heavy draw on the system. Been too busy. I am in the process of building a post building. I'm going to wire up the building, and before I hook it up to house power, I want to test the wiring system. I think I'm going to hook it up to the gasifier/generator and see how much load I can put on it.
Could somebody use the heat from the gasifier to dry the fuel? I'm thinking you could build a mild-steel shell around the gasifier that might stay pretty toasty and dry out the wood.
So to the laymen is that running the house power & or is the power going back into the grid as credits or just running the drill cause it looks to me that maybe the grid power might be cheaper to run that drill, than all that stainless and engines etc and that noise.
Actually, the cost of wood is very close to the cost of the grid, with the exception of my time to prepare the wood and feed the hopper. For me, this is for emergency backup use. For a farmer or others who work from home, this could easily be the main power source for them.
what amount of hours have you done with the new gasifier and 45KW generator? Maintenance on generator? Does the Victory gasifier have sufficient filter system in? Stefan from Namibia
Standard maintenance on the generator. The Victory Gasifier provides VERY clean gas. The flame is almost totally blue. You can't even see the flame during the day.
With a steam generator, you'll have to have a boiler, a steam turbine generator and a fuel source. I don't know the comparison. The two would just be different. The advantage of the gasifier is that you can use the gas to run other things
This is a great accomplishment How often do you refill wood into the gasifier? Would you dismount the engine of the generator ,replace it with a turbine that will be rotated by the steam then it (Turbine) rotates the generator ? Would such a set up work? Thank you in advance.
+my self - The hopper will hold about 4 hours worth of wood. I imagine that's possible, but you are adding layers of processes to the system. I prefer to keep it simple.
looks pretty but lets put the gen-set under a full load for a few hours and see if things can keep up? i am thinking not so much. i know the amount of fuel a 45KW will chew threw on even a 1 hour full load test.
I have been working in wood gasification for 12 years, with a power of 2MW, on jenbacher v16 engine. the problem is not to maintain the load, because the motor will create more suction, which will simply consume more wood. but the problem with this type of single-stage gasifier is the production of tar which in the medium term clogs the engine.
What does the hose connecting the generator radiator to the gasifier do? Also, I couldn't read the label on the rotated switch you turned on the gasifier.
ok, I see what that hose is, that's not the generator radiator, that's another radiator being used as a condenser for the gasifier and the fan from the generator is forcing air thru it so it's more efficient.
It looks like the external radiator is being used as an intercooler of sorts to cool the wood gas. The radiator for the generator is between the fan and the external radiator at a guess, the fan drawing cold air through both.
@@wgc1444thanks for your reply. Nice to see you are still active. How did you determine the air to fuel ratio? Did you use any air/fuel sensors? Or did you just play it by ear? Thanks
@@wgc1444 find charcoal, as in buy? u just make it in a retort. oi have seen both wood fired and charcoal fired gassafiyers and the advantage of charcoal is you don't get ANY tar or other nasty deposits in you engine.
@@kazadori164 the idea here is simplicity without waste. The more complicated you make it, the more people you need to run it. This gasifier is heavily filtered and cooled to reduce tar as much as possible. Choice of wood helps as well.
If the engine gets partly fouled from dirty wood gas, can it be cleaned up by running it with clean wood gas or other clean fuel? Or do you have to take it apart to clean it?
to all the haters commenting nonsense about the limits of the system. first of all the rpm of the motor can be calculated and they have a fixed torq. second of all : *THIS IS A HEFTY UNIT*
I took the equivalent of one 8" log about 18" long and split and cubed it for the gasifier. I was able to run the generator about 30 minutes on this much wood. When I get some time, I'll fill the hopper and run it to see how long it lasts. I'll post it here to let everyone know.
Have you tested it under a 45kW load? You're claiming a lot saying "In an emergency for just keeping freezers and refrigerators running, you could power a whole neighborhood with this generator!" But other than that it's a very tidy unit! Very cool!
@@wgc1444 a wire wound resistive load with with a selector for increasing the amount of resistance then monitor a single phase for line amps. Easy. Called generator load tester bigger ones have fans in to cool the pack down it basically a big hair dryer / induction heater / space heater. The amps would come from the gen set. You need a dummy load.
@@CaliforniaCarpenter7 A gasifier CAN be very efficient, I had a small one (maybe 4kW) that used one 8x18 log per day. A wood stove would have burned through 10 logs per day.
@@CaliforniaCarpenter7 So that is +-1SF of wood per 8x18 so 48SF used per day. A cord is 128SF so a cord would last about 2.67 days if run for 24 hours. Or a week running about 10 hours per day.
as you say, ''The generator is driven by a Ford 300 cubic inch straight six engine that was originally set up to run on natural gas.'' does this mean it is driven at low idle on diesel and ignite the gas with the diesel at load? or does it has spark plugs? thanks
@@wgc1444 thanks! my first thought when I saw that big gen and the name Ford was -Diesel :) do you know anything about diesel-woodgas engines? my 'issue' is I already have a diesel generator so either sell if for a petrol one or convert it in some way. I have to ask :) thanks mate
@@mekefalk As far as I know there is only two ways you can run a diesel engine off of wood gas. The first, is by using an old diesel that has spark ignition. The second, is by running the engine with less diesel and supplementing with wood gas.
thres no answer coz thees no peramiters........ steam fuel and atmosphiric conditions will change the day to day running its just like using a fire place to heat house...... realy dont mater cause enough free stuff to burn to not even worry
I would be very surprised if they care at all. Off-the-shelf gasifiers are very expensive, largely because building a good one is a LOT of work, and that is also a barrier for many DIY folks. And even a person who has one also needs a good supply of wood, so that narrows the demand. The vast majority of the population lives in cities, so they do not have a supply of cheap or free wood. Still, I want to make one (I have 50+ acres of forest).
***** I was talking about something entirely different. Comparing energy densities and outputs of combustion engines. Did you know you lose power as energy density decreases? A 45kw diesel generator might only produce 25kw on syngas -_-
***** I think it can be practical as a means to augment 'on-demand' power. The hydrogen makes the gas very difficult to compress - so storage isn't very practical. However, just about any combustion engine can run on syngas without modification, making generators pretty easy to get going. Now, even if a 5kw generator only puts out 2,500 continuous watts - you can still run high-demand appliances like an air conditioner and/or charge a battery bank 'on-demand.' That could prove very useful for people going off-grid - especially 'boondockers'. You can significantly shrink your solar requirement and extend your 'off-grid time.' With a fractional distillation set-up I could even catalyze syngas directly into liquid hydrocarbon fuels like gasoline, if I wanted.
+poweredbyaaron99 There are three stages of cool down for the hot gas; the filter stage, the base of the gasifier is a series of pipes as the second stage, and the radiator bolted to the front of the generator provides the third stage. At each stage, the gas gains density, and more power. The estimated energy value as it enters the engine is just below that of natural gas, which is what the generator was set up for originally. It is estimated that the generator will produce KW power in the high 30s.
+poweredbyaaron99 The generator is spec'd at 45KW continuous. If the gasifier is not needed to run the generator, it can be used to fill gov't surplus 10K gallon fuel bladders, which I have several. That can be siphoned off as needed or to fill propane grill bottles. You can't compress it into a liquid, but you can pump it to 175psi and get a couple of grill meals out of it or run a lawn mower for a while.
About 8 8x18 logs sliced and cubed to about the size of your thumb to run the gasifier and generator for 4 hours, which is enough to keep your freezers and refrigerators cold if you don't open the doors a lot.
Beautiful and Impressive Set Up! I would like to know if the gas that’s produced can be stored in a 400 gallon tank that then can be used at a later time? Similar to the Propane tanks. Also, can you give me an idea of cost? I know with today’s inflated prices and regional location it does not have to be exact just a roundabout figure. Let me mention, from all the videos I’ve watched this has always been the best for me. I would love to reverse engineer it from you, if that’s ever a possibility. I don’t want to overstep my boundaries but it’s that I would like to use it at my farm that’s has limited to no electricity and because it’s in a Caribbean Island the Power is intermittent and it’s not a constant supply to rural areas and. It’s redirected to the Tourist area and the rest of the island might go a few hours, days or weeks without constant electricity. Thank you for your time and any help and advice that you can share.
Yes, you can store the gas. It's recommended that you store it in a bladder that you can put weight on top to create pressure. Otherwise you would need a tank that can hold pressure. You can use an air compressor to fill propane tanks. As far as building one, this one is expensive. You can build a less expensive one using the plans from www.woodgasifierplans.com Although it will not look like mine, it was developed by the same people that made mine, and they make things that truly work. Buy the plan book and build it yourself for a fraction of the cost.
Do you sell your plans? I have an old 300 sitting behind my garage, would love to make good use of it to power the homestead. Now I just need some batteries... Haha
I have to say the workmanship is top notch professional...nice job!.
that's the nicest gasifier I have ever seen
For all the people commenting "where can I get one" or something along the lines of "revolutionary ". I would encourage you to check out the history of wood gas. These systems have been around for, if I remember correctly, the 1800s. They tend to pop back up during fuel shortages and are a great idea but you will either need a Fabricator to make one for you or be capable of building one.
During the second Word war all of the taxis in Paris were required to run on woodgas due to fuel shortages. There was even a tank capable of running on wood gas I believe.
personally im *SHOCKED* that this was never mentionned in any of my school books. i doubt everything now.
@@bonsang1073 thats cause as a whole society were beyond that. but. as burnheretic said. for when any kind of shtf event happens. this is one of the better options. theres lots of literature out there. plans and other stuff. u can even store the gas when not running the generator in a floating bell. (there were many of those in the late 1800´s early 1900. ) u could also compress the gas in a cilinder and run a vehicle out of that compressed cilinder.
As a metal fabricator/ welder/ mechanic/ inventor. I really love this. Great job
most professional setup i have ever seen
Nice Stainless steel set up, i like those cam clamps on the connections - i'm going to copy that idea on my unit.
I would note that since the energy density is lower on the producer gas it takes a larger engine (generally) to run the generator that was originally sized for that engine. my first run - i used a 9Hp honda engine to replace the 3.5Hp original on an old generator - this worked pretty well with the 9Hp actual output on wood-gas being about 3Hp - so close to the sizing for the original engine and generator set up. If you used the original engine sized for this 45Kw generator i suspect you would have difficulty making more than 15-20 kw on woodgas. A larger displacement engine may be the solution if you want to get 45Kw but nothing wrong with a 15-20 Kw set up. Just my bit.
Thanks for posting.
I would love an over look of how everything works and is connected
That's one of the most beautiful setups I've ever seen!
Thank you!
The noise of its operation can easily be almost eliminated with a sturdy wall around it open at the top.
*Listen to the incredible noise levels of everything in full operation ! This setup needs its own soundproof mini-building just to keep it as quiet as possible, and out of The Weather. @ 45 KiloWatts this is an enterprise level operation.*
that would be the best sound in the world during a prolonged power outage!
I can't stand when people upload videos without any speech what so ever. I like a little explanation
That's some nice work there guys !!!
Thanks 👍
Unreal set up, very nice job indeed! Love the radiator to cool the gas 😃
this is an awsome setup, love how this could be using waste wood material from old fallen trees to run it
Awesome Job Sir! IS the genny single phase or 3-phase? Sounds great!!! Nice Job
It is both. Currently have it set up for single phase, but imagine a small business running their 3-phase operation off of wood!
wgc1444 Very nice. I did see the switch after I sent the ?. Mine on single phase is running at 240 volts and yours looked like 220. What is the open topped stainless drum on the gasifier?
engineer775 Practical Preppers I can run at 240v. It's adjustable. I figured at 220v I'd get an extra 15 amps.
The open topped drum is a wood chunk drier. The radiator fan above it drives warm air down to a 4" port and using a clothes drier hose, it's hooked to the bottom of the chunk drier. Victory sent it with the gasifier. I'm not sure why they put the heavy duty flange on top with all the holes.
Beautiful! A work of art!
this is absolutely incredible! i would love a system like this.
Can you show it running a big load on the generator?
Awesome, thanks for posting sir, shoutout from Va!
what a pleasure to have this running 24/7 in your backyard
It's a 300...you could skip the gasifier and just feed 'er the pellets!
Pellets don't burn fast enough, and are solid.
@@giovannicesaramorim9adigan961 You must be fun at parties.
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You ain't shuttering buddy. Sucker mite just run on dirt and eggs lmfao!!
Una instalación fantástica muy inspirador un ejemplo de como podemos librarlos de los hidrocarburos felicidades saludos desde México!!!
I am so amazed at this.
Wow....you just did it sir! You really did!
Thank you for sharing!!!
How many cost in dollars have it?
Have you tried making bio diesel with that thing?.. if it can drive that generator it must put out some serious syn gas and if it's clean you should be able to flow the gas through a catalyst and then condense it into bio diesel. Victory Gasworks people claim they can do it but I can't find a video on it...would be fun to the yield and what catalyst work best at what pressure.
I would love to make biodiesel from my gasifier. I'll check with Victory, since I'm a valid customer to see if they will forward me any information.
To date, there are a few people on youtube who claim that they are producing biofuels through the condensing process to clean the gas for engine consumption, but I don't have a lot of confidence that they know what they're doing.
It would be awesome if we had an organic chemist out there from the petroleum industry to help us with what catalysts we need and what temperatures, etc. Unfortunately I think they might consider us the competition.
Well open source is gaining ground so there might be an engineer out there with some experience. I know several airlines are using bio jet fuel which is basically kerosene and it burns really cleanly. Kerosene and diesel is close to being the same thing. I know MIT and the RAND corp. did a report on alternative jet fuels and in the bibliography there's some pretty good scientific source listed.
I'm going to way of a multi chambered gasifier with the reaction chamber from refractory cement so you can run continuously and scale the syngas output to match comsumption and not just have one big stainless steel reaction chamber.
it would be interesting to see the gen run with a real load on it.
He could hook a couple of large hydrogen fuel cell generators up to it that would definitely put a load on it and if it worked he could produce an even cleaner burning and more combustible and more stable gas that he could actually compress then chill into a liquid state compressing it even further and using it for fuel later put in wood get out super high density highly efficient fuel 😀👍
I have a 50KVA generator. It is a diesel Ford engine as good as new.
I am in a rural rain forest of Africa, technically the grid does not exist.
Can I apply this gasification technique on my generator?
I ask due to the fact that my engine is a diesel and not a gas type.
Thanks
If your ford diesel has spark ignition, you can use pure gasifier gas. If not, you will have to combine the two. It will still take some diesel to get the cylinder to fire under compression and you can add gas from a gasifier to reduce your diesel requirements. I would add gasifier gas to the intake with air mixture, then reduce the amount diesel to the injectors until it runs rough, then add a little diesel back in until it runs smooth again.
I think your time would be better spent using waste oil to fuel it. In some places people will even pay you to take their waste oil.
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waste oil is not common here. However, I have abundantly palm kernel shells, infact, palm kernel shell is a nuisance here.
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Thanks
actually, I run the system as in fumigation mode with LPG gas. However, LPG gas is also becoming very expensive. I would like to switch over to biomass.
@@MrObi1canobi That’s interesting! One would think with all the cooking oils and oil changes in cars it would be abundant if you can collect it from nearby towns.
I’d be weary of running woodgas in a diesel, let alone one of such size and cost. It’s going to create a lot of maintenance for you.
If you really want to burn them for electricity I think you’d be better off selling your generator and getting something specifically made for the task. A generator that size is worth good money where I’m from.
Clearly the best looking Gasifier made! The guy must work at a winery with all those pipe clamps and stainless that was used to build it. I wish he could send me the plans, so I can build one. I wonder how long it will supply fuel with a single burn of the wood put in it.
You can buy the plans..wood gas bible
Fantastic build! I'm curious to know if the genny consumes more or less fuel when all loaded up from hungry devices, welders, ac units etc? What is an average wood consumption per hour? Another channel has it that a pound of wood equates to 1.3 miles in his gasifier/pickup truck. I'm wondering if similar ratios can be figured out in a gasifier to genny marriage? Any thoughts?
I am interested to build one gasifier like this. Do you sell the blueprints?
I don't know about this one. But, I'm told that on the FEMA website they have plans for different gasifiers, for free. 🙂✌🏽
Would be interested to see a real load test by a load bank on this. Would see actual figures for power rather than a tiny drill. Does it actually produce the rated output of 45KW.
Yes, that would be good info to know.
From what I’ve seen - SynGas has roughly 35% lower power rating as opposed to fuels like gasoline, propane, nat gas, etc.
If I had to guess, I’d say it’s generating somewhere in range of 24kw to 32kw.
You lose horsepower but if you were just going from point A to point B it's more efficient.
@@craigalexander288 Yea if octane gasoline is an 8 hydrocarbon chain molecule then this is definitely not that thus the loss in horsepower.
Been done many times, decent syngas is about same as natural gas, so approximately 25-30% power loss.
@@jay90374all you have to do is provide the same rpm as when burning gasoline. This generator was originally set up for natural gas. All you have to do is provide whatever amount of syngas needed to maintain the target rpm to provide full power.
Super clean build man. Good job
How do you govern the fuel? This shown is runnong at no load then say 5 amps for drill. Say you load the genset to max It would stall unlrss you could increase the gas by a huge amount. How is this accomplished?
It pulls however much wood gas it needs through vacuum demand. If the engine needs more gas, the gasifier will cook the wood faster to supply the engine's needs.
Very nice looking build!!
is it possible to store the wood gas?
Moobs Mcgee please read all the comments
I'd like to know what kind of load is on the generator. Any engine with no load doesn't use much fuel .....
do you have a build video?
I am also interested in a Coal Burning Gasifier.
I wonder how much wood per hour this thing would consume and how well it would run at 80% of the 45kW design. That gasifier looks pretty solid. Most I see on videos look kind of unrefined. I wonder the quality of the gas that is output. I hear the FEMA designs are dirty.
Very nice construction. How long of a run time before having to add more wood fuel?
Depending on how much load I'm putting on it, 4 to 6 hours
Which wood is used? I assume if you have carburetor engine, not all types will fit, pine or spruce tar will definitely kill it after getting cold.
Hard woods only. Pine is a nono
Hi. First let me say I was blown away. Nice video all though some explanations would be helpful.
Is heating not a factor? I mean engine overheating by the dryness of the gas itself. being a gas operating engine. I know gas converted cars usually don’t last that long.. is that a concern at all?
This Genset was pre-configured for natural gas. I doubt woodgas is any drier.
How often does it need maintenance? Oil change?
Like you would do with any old points & condenser engine. 3000mi reg oil, 5-7000 mi synthetic.
How much wood would this burn in a day?
Wow.. This makes the gasifier I built out of scrap metal look like shit lmao
Indeed it makes everything i build look like shit..
Doesnt have to look good ..
Just has to work.
time running ??
How many lbs of material per hour burned to capacitate this set up!!!
Beautiful parts by the way ...some one has a lathe or access to damn good millwright!
Well done man!
That question was asked and answered somewhere in these comments. I believe 4 or 5 18 inch long sticks about 6 inxhes in diameter will burn for at least 4 hours.
@@markwerner8089 thank you kindly!
AMAZING......
can you store the gas you make?
that's the question, because it you can you could potentially run an LPG cooking hob or oven or heater off of it.
no and yes sort of decomposes into carbon and co2 if left to its ownfor too long
You can. Look up a device called a gasometer.
How is it to get going in the middle of a snowstorm blizzard
No more difficult than in the summer
Great workmanship.... Great design....
Could i use a smaller version, maybe 20kw, to make electricity for average size home? I could save about 100 euros per month electricity bill, i have a forest in backyard.
Yes, you could easily do that.
@@learningforsuccessk12andbeyond But why isnt this very common? I cant find anything about it on web, thats why i asked, i assumed there are some downsides...
@@beeqool Think of this setup as a mini power plant. The major downside is that, like the power companies, the power plant must be constantly manned to run efficiently. It's not just a flip a switch and walk away operation. Someone must be there to constantly monitor the operation, including preparing the wood chunks for the next batch to put in the hopper. The wood has to be split and chunked to the proper size, then dried, then added to the hopper about every four hours. If you use it along with batteries that charge during the day, you'll run the gasifier for about 12hours a day. That's 3 fills of the hopper and the prep of the wood for each load. That's a full time job.
Your best bet would be to run an oversized generator into a battery bank. Only run it for a few hours per day that way. It’ll take a good amount of battery and inverter to work properly.
@@learningforsuccessk12andbeyond I'd add to that fumes and noise.
how much does it cost?
There are sooo many things I can do with this gasifier:
I can run a 45KW generator as seen here and power a whole neighborhood.
I can load it up onto my truck and drive on wood.
I can pump it into a 10K gallon bladder tank and store it for later.
From the bladder tank, I can use an air compressor and fill mine and other's LP tanks. I can also pipe it to my hot water heater and furnace, power my wood miser saw mill, and also use it to fuel an ethanol still for producing liquid fuel!
Some people say I can even make bio-gasoline and bio-diesel directly from the gas, but I haven't seen a reliable simple process for that yet. Can anyone provide some intelligent input on this?
The gas coming off that setup will be mostly CO (carbon monoxide) with a bit of hydrogen and a hint of methane - along with nitrogen from the air it consumes.
Since it appears pretty well designed I'd assume most of the hydrocarbon chains are being 'cracked' in the extremely hot hearth - therefore, you'd struggle to get any liquid fuels from the gas without a very expensive setup and a complicated process.
If you want liquid fuels from wood in a DIY fashion you need to condense 'dirty' wood gas from zero oxygen pyrolysis, then further refine/distil the produced sticky sludge.
The zero oxygen (air-free) environment prevents CO production (fire) and pretty much eliminates the nitrogen content - you'll get some surplus hydrogen/methane that you can redirect and use in the heating process.
With zero oxygen pyrolysis most of the 'C' (of the 'CO') will remain as charcoal when the process is complete, because you didn't allow it to 'burn' and combine with the 'O'.
The rest of the 'C' will remain bonded to 'H' (in chains of varying lengths) in the sticky sludge.
You can burn the 'C' (charcoal) later to pyrolyse the next batch of wood.
BTW, this method is great for turning waste plastic into liquid fuels.
Where did you buy this?
Do you know engineer775? if so you are probably close to me. Would you mind if I came to see this? The last time I checked victory only made a 5kw unit. Is that what this one is?
Yes, Engineer775 and I are friends, although I live in Georgia, south of Atlanta.
As I am running this particular generator, this is obviously a 45kw unit. What determines the capacity of the unit is the size of the hearth, which is based closely to the FEMA gasifier sizing chart. If you order a victory unit, simply tell them what engine hp you want to run.
What type of fuel do you use in your gasifier. Also could you store the gas produced by the gasifier for use later on or would it be too flammable to compress since it would have an oxygen mixture with it. Or could you produce a hydrogen fuel cell plant with this technology producing a much more flammable and stable gas for storage. And the last question is how long will this run without adding any more fuel?
Wood gas is best produced on demand, not stored, as its energy density is quite low - about 1/10 of that of natural gas. While technically doable, there isn't much benefit to it; you're better off storing the energy by charging up a battery bank.
@@george.b. really a 1/10? i was reading and understanding they have major system in Kenya with the government and doing 3000 psi tanks... They stated 60-65%. I', have a tree removal business & small farm and 1/2 way researched these several years ago.. KW up to 13 cents and gas over $3 .No more procrastinating..
how much wood do you need to power it 24 hours?
Whats the biggest load you've run and for how long?
I haven't had a situation yet to do a heavy draw on the system. Been too busy. I am in the process of building a post building. I'm going to wire up the building, and before I hook it up to house power, I want to test the wiring system. I think I'm going to hook it up to the gasifier/generator and see how much load I can put on it.
If and when you do please post an update! I am very much interested in the feasibility of such a system. Thank you! And nice build!
Could somebody use the heat from the gasifier to dry the fuel? I'm thinking you could build a mild-steel shell around the gasifier that might stay pretty toasty and dry out the wood.
The stainless bin in the middle of the gasifier, if you look closely, has a duct going to it. This is the dryer for the wood chunks
Hello,
I look for constrution plan for the burner could you m help thank you
Curious is that a commercial gasifier or is that something you built and would you be willing to share some of the schematics?
Victory Gas built it for me,
So to the laymen is that running the house power & or is the power going back into the grid as credits or just running the drill cause it looks to me that maybe the grid power might be cheaper to run that drill, than all that stainless and engines etc and that noise.
Actually, the cost of wood is very close to the cost of the grid, with the exception of my time to prepare the wood and feed the hopper. For me, this is for emergency backup use. For a farmer or others who work from home, this could easily be the main power source for them.
Do you have the plans of your project. If you do let me know what I can do to get a copy to build my own. Thank You/
Felix Torres - woodgasifierplans.com
what amount of hours have you done with the new gasifier and 45KW generator?
Maintenance on generator?
Does the Victory gasifier have sufficient filter system in?
Stefan from Namibia
Standard maintenance on the generator.
The Victory Gasifier provides VERY clean gas.
The flame is almost totally blue. You can't even see the flame during the day.
What is the running cost diffrancs as compairsion steam power plant
With a steam generator, you'll have to have a boiler, a steam turbine generator and a fuel source. I don't know the comparison. The two would just be different. The advantage of the gasifier is that you can use the gas to run other things
what is the run time in hours before having to refuel?
4 to 6 hours
One word awesome...
At least you stayed with a ford throttle body.. lol. Pretty cool...
How many hours have you done on the generator with the gasifier?
Price paid for gasifier?
did u ever get an answer?
This is a great accomplishment
How often do you refill wood into the gasifier?
Would you dismount the engine of the generator ,replace it with a turbine that will be rotated by the steam then it (Turbine) rotates the generator ? Would such a set up work?
Thank you in advance.
+my self - The hopper will hold about 4 hours worth of wood. I imagine that's possible, but you are adding layers of processes to the system. I prefer to keep it simple.
So at 400v, whats the max load in amps you can pull with this setup
About 100 amps
looks pretty but lets put the gen-set under a full load for a few hours and see if things can keep up? i am thinking not so much. i know the amount of fuel a 45KW will chew threw on even a 1 hour full load test.
I have been working in wood gasification for 12 years, with a power of 2MW, on jenbacher v16 engine. the problem is not to maintain the load, because the motor will create more suction, which will simply consume more wood. but the problem with this type of single-stage gasifier is the production of tar which in the medium term clogs the engine.
@@arjo656 i can see that, and to make it hot enough to slow the creosote down you defeat the gas production.
How do you feed the fuel to it. The setup you have looks great
At the highest point on the gasifier, there is a clamped lid. Undo the clamps, lift the lid, and dump in the wood. Re-clamp the lid and you're done!
What does the hose connecting the generator radiator to the gasifier do? Also, I couldn't read the label on the rotated switch you turned on the gasifier.
ok, I see what that hose is, that's not the generator radiator, that's another radiator being used as a condenser for the gasifier and the fan from the generator is forcing air thru it so it's more efficient.
It looks like the external radiator is being used as an intercooler of sorts to cool the wood gas. The radiator for the generator is between the fan and the external radiator at a guess, the fan drawing cold air through both.
Good job!What you used in filters?
OUTSTANDING !!!
Hi. How do you govern the air fuel ratio?
With the throttle body piece above the engine
@@wgc1444thanks for your reply. Nice to see you are still active.
How did you determine the air to fuel ratio? Did you use any air/fuel sensors? Or did you just play it by ear?
Thanks
@@devjono To tell you the truth, I got lucky on my first try. If it hadn't, I would have adjusted it by ear
@@wgc1444 😁 awesome luck.
would you get more power/ smaller machine if you used charcoal as fuel instead of raw wood ??
The gasifier creates it's own charcoal out of the wood chunks by cooking it without oxygen. When shtf, you would be hard pressed to find charcoal.
@@wgc1444 find charcoal, as in buy? u just make it in a retort. oi have seen both wood fired and charcoal fired gassafiyers and the advantage of charcoal is you don't get ANY tar or other nasty deposits in you engine.
@@kazadori164 the idea here is simplicity without waste. The more complicated you make it, the more people you need to run it. This gasifier is heavily filtered and cooled to reduce tar as much as possible. Choice of wood helps as well.
Where did you get that throttle body for your air intake? Glad to see Victory is still building nice looking machine :)
It is a 70mm Throttle Body (86-93 Ford 5.0L). I bought it new from AmericanMuscle.com, but you can get it a whole lot cheaper from a junk yard.
If the engine gets partly fouled from dirty wood gas, can it be cleaned up by running it with clean wood gas or other clean fuel? Or do you have to take it apart to clean it?
Just clean the filters
Você tem o esquema desse projeto para disponibilizar ?
to all the haters commenting nonsense about the limits of the system. first of all the rpm of the motor can be calculated and they have a fixed torq.
second of all :
*THIS IS A HEFTY UNIT*
This is awesome! I just wonder if you measured how much wood you used per hour on this 45 KW generator?
I took the equivalent of one 8" log about 18" long and split and cubed it for the gasifier. I was able to run the generator about 30 minutes on this much wood. When I get some time, I'll fill the hopper and run it to see how long it lasts. I'll post it here to let everyone know.
***** Thanks a lot Mark. It is really amazing! We planed to run on our 10K for the whole house. Hope to see your next vid soon.
That is one nice Gasifier, Great work, Is the Base the cooler for the Gas
The base is and the radiator in front of the generator
@@wgc1444 You did a Beautiful Build ,you should be Proud.
Have you tested it under a 45kW load? You're claiming a lot saying "In an emergency for just keeping freezers and refrigerators running, you could power a whole neighborhood with this generator!"
But other than that it's a very tidy unit! Very cool!
Where would you propose I get the 200 amps to load test it???
wgc1444 Well yeah that would be a challenge. You'd need a bunch of welders or something.
KiwiPowerNZ local community college welding class or miller rep for dem
@@wgc1444 a wire wound resistive load with with a selector for increasing the amount of resistance then monitor a single phase for line amps. Easy. Called generator load tester bigger ones have fans in to cool the pack down it basically a big hair dryer / induction heater / space heater.
The amps would come from the gen set. You need a dummy load.
@@jnewbon00 What would something like that cost? I don't want to spend a lot of money for just a quick test
pretty cool man. Thanks for sharing
How much wood in one hour?
The description says it would consume 48 8”x18” oak logs in 24 hours. 2 per hour. Although I doubt that very much.
@@CaliforniaCarpenter7 A gasifier CAN be very efficient, I had a small one (maybe 4kW) that used one 8x18 log per day. A wood stove would have burned through 10 logs per day.
@@CaliforniaCarpenter7 So that is +-1SF of wood per 8x18 so 48SF used per day. A cord is 128SF so a cord would last about 2.67 days if run for 24 hours. Or a week running about 10 hours per day.
@ShannonP, your math is incorrect. There is 128 CUBIC ft in a cord. Assuming the wood is 6" thick, you would have to at least triple your estimates
would this run on barley or wheaten straw
machineryireland
It would run on microwave popcorn and irish potatoes
It could be used to heat water, or vent the exhaust into greenhouses
as you say, ''The generator is driven by a Ford 300 cubic inch straight six engine that was originally set up to run on natural gas.'' does this mean it is driven at low idle on diesel and ignite the gas with the diesel at load? or does it has spark plugs? thanks
There is nothing diesel about it. The Ford 300 is a gasoline engine that can also run on propane or natural gas.
@@wgc1444 thanks! my first thought when I saw that big gen and the name Ford was -Diesel :) do you know anything about diesel-woodgas engines? my 'issue' is I already have a diesel generator so either sell if for a petrol one or convert it in some way. I have to ask :) thanks mate
@@mekefalk As far as I know there is only two ways you can run a diesel engine off of wood gas. The first, is by using an old diesel that has spark ignition. The second, is by running the engine with less diesel and supplementing with wood gas.
how much bio material will the generator consume in a day, maintaining a household?
fragwits i assume you mean kilowatt/hour right?
thres no answer coz thees no peramiters........
steam fuel and atmosphiric conditions will change the day to day running
its just like using a fire place to heat house......
realy dont mater cause enough free stuff to burn to not even worry
I wonder what oil companies think about these gasifiers
They don't care. We're just a little fruit fly in their eyes
Roughly the opposite of what the Wood industry thinks
I would be very surprised if they care at all. Off-the-shelf gasifiers are very expensive, largely because building a good one is a LOT of work, and that is also a barrier for many DIY folks. And even a person who has one also needs a good supply of wood, so that narrows the demand. The vast majority of the population lives in cities, so they do not have a supply of cheap or free wood. Still, I want to make one (I have 50+ acres of forest).
Are you getting the full 45kw out of this generator? Surely the syngas yields less energy output than natural gas...
***** I was talking about something entirely different. Comparing energy densities and outputs of combustion engines.
Did you know you lose power as energy density decreases? A 45kw diesel generator might only produce 25kw on syngas -_-
***** I think it can be practical as a means to augment 'on-demand' power. The hydrogen makes the gas very difficult to compress - so storage isn't very practical. However, just about any combustion engine can run on syngas without modification, making generators pretty easy to get going.
Now, even if a 5kw generator only puts out 2,500 continuous watts - you can still run high-demand appliances like an air conditioner and/or charge a battery bank 'on-demand.'
That could prove very useful for people going off-grid - especially 'boondockers'. You can significantly shrink your solar requirement and extend your 'off-grid time.'
With a fractional distillation set-up I could even catalyze syngas directly into liquid hydrocarbon fuels like gasoline, if I wanted.
+poweredbyaaron99 There are three stages of cool down for the hot gas; the filter stage, the base of the gasifier is a series of pipes as the second stage, and the radiator bolted to the front of the generator provides the third stage. At each stage, the gas gains density, and more power. The estimated energy value as it enters the engine is just below that of natural gas, which is what the generator was set up for originally. It is estimated that the generator will produce KW power in the high 30s.
+Mike Brink A full hopper will last about four hours. The gasifier has a built in jogger that ensures the hearth doesn't clog or bridge.
+poweredbyaaron99 The generator is spec'd at 45KW continuous. If the gasifier is not needed to run the generator, it can be used to fill gov't surplus 10K gallon fuel bladders, which I have several. That can be siphoned off as needed or to fill propane grill bottles. You can't compress it into a liquid, but you can pump it to 175psi and get a couple of grill meals out of it or run a lawn mower for a while.
So, What would be the amount and the size of logs we can place in one single batch?
About 8 8x18 logs sliced and cubed to about the size of your thumb to run the gasifier and generator for 4 hours, which is enough to keep your freezers and refrigerators cold if you don't open the doors a lot.
@@BillWalters-kx8sw about the size of your thumb. They don't have to be perfect cubes either.
Can it also work on cal briquettes?
I imagine so, if you broke them up into pieces the size of your thumb
Beautiful and Impressive Set Up! I would like to know if the gas that’s produced can be stored in a 400 gallon tank that then can be used at a later time? Similar to the Propane tanks. Also, can you give me an idea of cost? I know with today’s inflated prices and regional location it does not have to be exact just a roundabout figure. Let me mention, from all the videos I’ve watched this has always been the best for me. I would love to reverse engineer it from you, if that’s ever a possibility. I don’t want to overstep my boundaries but it’s that I would like to use it at my farm that’s has limited to no electricity and because it’s in a Caribbean Island the Power is intermittent and it’s not a constant supply to rural areas and. It’s redirected to the Tourist area and the rest of the island might go a few hours, days or weeks without constant electricity. Thank you for your time and any help and advice that you can share.
Yes, you can store the gas. It's recommended that you store it in a bladder that you can put weight on top to create pressure. Otherwise you would need a tank that can hold pressure. You can use an air compressor to fill propane tanks. As far as building one, this one is expensive. You can build a less expensive one using the plans from www.woodgasifierplans.com
Although it will not look like mine, it was developed by the same people that made mine, and they make things that truly work. Buy the plan book and build it yourself for a fraction of the cost.
Do you sell your plans? I have an old 300 sitting behind my garage, would love to make good use of it to power the homestead. Now I just need some batteries... Haha
man you got some big money in this! all stainless steel...shit!
No kidding
How You build this gasificador? Excelente video form Colombia
google "victory gasworks"