Morticians Talk- Victims of Crime: The Watts Family
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- As morticians we get asked about the condition of crime victims bodies...
"Are they viewable?"
"How would we handle this case?"
"What would the body look like?"
Kari the Mortician and Ryan & Brian from Undertaking the Podcast will answer those questions and many more. Each episode three embalmers/morticians will talk about criminal cases of murder and unexplained deaths and how they would handle the deceased victims from those cases.
In this first episode, Kari, Ryan & Brian will discuss the case of the Watts Family murders. This story made International News because of its senseless brutality. Many people have looked at the criminal aspect of the case and the murderer himself, but we will discuss caring for the victims and the sad task that laid before the funeral directors who cared for the victims.
Warning things may be discussed that are disturbing to some people.
If you have a case you would like us to cover please comment below! Please excuse the choppy video. Even with four uploads it just won't play right :( Maybe
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We never think about what the police, rescue workers, funeral people have to see. God bless all of them
Thank you!
I’m a pediatric ICU RT. I think about these guys all the time. I at least get to see miracles, they don’t! Thank you guys for what you do! When people say, “No I couldn’t do your job!” My reply is, “I don’t do it because it’s easy, I do it because I want it done right!” I imagine these guys feel the same way.
I think of the poor people, police, rescue team, furneral teams, for what they saw!!! Horrific 😪🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Amen 🙏
@@tj6930
God bless you and all that help others ❤️🙏
This one make me particularly angry. Those little girls loved their daddy, and that bastard betrayed them in the most monstrous way.
I totally agree with you Heather H. especially when I hear Bella singing " My daddy is my hero". Such a bas**rd to do that to the children that had so much love for that slimeball. I am also so glad that he did that media interview. Couldn't have confirmed more that he did away with that beautiful family. ......Cw l hope you rot in that prison cell unless someone gets to you first which would be an even better solution.
His soul will forever burn in the lake of fire. This kinda evil never gets right with God
@@bre6992 correct!!!!!! "🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Exactly!!
I agree!
I have been a licensed mortician and funeral director for thirty years. I love how professional, respectful, sensitive and thoughtful this video was. Great job. I am so disgusted by youtube morticians making our profession sound like we are a bunch of death mongering weirdos. It is a hard job and every embalmer has dealt with cases that changed them forever. God Bless you for your hard work.
Wow thank you so much!!
God Bless you!
I completely agree! I’m always curious abt Anything pertaining to the human body. ( From a medical standpoint )
This report was done with the Utmost Respect!! Not only for the deceased, but for the loved ones left to live with this Unbelievable circumstance ! Thank you!
I take my hat off to you for being able to do what you do. Funeral directors get a bad rap. I think initially many of thought all funeral directors were money grabbing monsters and "making money off of everyone's grief". Now I realize this isn't the case for all of them. Your job has to be one of the most difficult in the world. I wish it wasn't against the law to come in with a funeral director and observe what is done and how. I think it would give people a much needed perspective on how difficult your job is.
Please don't ask me about TH-cam. Bless you Shannon, CeCe, Bella and Nicko. Chris Watts you can burn in HELL!!!
I read that Shanann’s mother crocheted a blue baby blanket, the tiny baby boy was placed in the blanket and then placed in his mother’s loving arms and so was buried with her...absolutely breaks my heart. CW should rot in solitary confinement F-O-R-E-V-E-R....a true evil bastard.
Thank you
CW will be up for parole in 2027. Likely to be denied until his second parole hearing in 2029
@@ericroman2403 he will never get out!
@@ericroman2403 He got life without the possibility of parole
@@ericroman2403 He was given 3 consecutive life sentences without the possibility of parole, he will never get out.
Thank God For Shannan's friend who immediately Knew something was wrong
So true!!
Absolutely!
I knew she was a "sister", when she waited for Shan to get inside before driving away.
I always wait til my girlfriends are inside as well.
When they flip the porch light on & off, I know they are safely inside.
Inside their home, they SHOULD be safe. 😢
Oh yeah, 100%. She threw a wrench in his plans, for sure. He still wouldn't have gotten away with it by any means, but she got the search started faster.
I agree, Shannans friend just sensed thing were wrong. A very intuitive lady, must have been really traumatic. R I P Shannan, Bella, Celeste and Baby Nico 🙏
Those beautiful babies and mommy are in paradise !,.I feel so much for that family stayed up all night watching a few docs...so sad ,😔 in my prayers🙏
I feel for those the firefighters or any emergency personnel who had to see the bodies after they were removed from the oil drums.
They had to get therapy.
One policeman sat at the site all night, so that the girls weren’t alone and now he’s got PTSD.
@@nikkil2636 omg can u imagine sitting so close yet unable to help those babies 😰😢 idk if you could ever truly forget seeing something so horrific
@@82566 such a wonderful man. He now has ptsd.
@@nikkil2636 I saw a post of that my heart went out to him because PTSD is no joke I hope one day he is able to find some peace
The photographs of his children and wife should be wallpapered all over his cell!!! The Autopsy photos!!!!!!
Agreed
Yes!!!! PLEASE!!
He has the maximum allowed number of photos of his family in his cell
Ohh, I didn't know that. I thought the petition made the jail take the pics out his cell. Wow
He shouldn't be allowed to have pics. Why pics when he could of just left them alive
@@myangelcourtney He can have pictures of them alive, but can't have pictures of them deceased? I wish that for every live picture put a dead picture, side by side.
SHE WAS NOT DRUNK!!! Thank you for talking about this. There are horrible people out there making up ridiculous stories about her drinking that night. She was pregnant, devastated, physically ill, and definitely not a drinker. Such a tragedy....
I know! It's a chemical reaction that happens during decomposition. I haven't watched this video yet, but I hope they say this. Poor Shanann has had nothing but shit spoken about her since he death. I dont understand how people can be so heartless? At the end of the day she did nothing wrong and sure as hell didn't deserve what that monster did to her and her little one's. People need to leave her alone to rest in piece xxxx
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You are welcome!!
Yes thank you 😥😢💜💜💜💙
@@zowiecarlabeale6386 I agree - some people allways have to victimise the victims, even when the victim was clearly an innocent person.
He left them to rot. Disgusting monster. Who does that!! This story is so gruesome. 4 lives snuffed out so brutally. I feel for all involved in the clean up.
He is the worst
I live 35 miles from where the mommy and babies were killed. With this on tv everyday you could not help but cry and be heartbroken. May they RIP.
I can only imagine how intense it was being local
Its unspeakable. That he has not been murdered in prison yet is a miracle.
I used to live colo.spring loved it there
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@@laurieb8197 my home
Sandy told Dr Phil they couldn’t cremate the girls coz the whole building would blow up 💥
Those poor men who brought the girls up from the oil tank are still in therapy they were traumatised.!!
Definitely
They were sealed because of the toxic gases that come from the oil
Jfc. I didn’t know that. So lucky those hatches weren’t wider because if they were, he might have stuffed Shannan down there somehow and the cops were not thinking about the oil drums because everyone said the hatches were just too small to put the girls through.
Oil makes fire big
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Shanann, Bella, Celeste and Nicco's headstone is beautiful. Looks like an extremely peaceful and beautiful cemetary. Rest in peace beautiful souls.
Yes!
& it has Shanann’s maiden name Rzucek on it & not Watts. He doesn’t deserve to be connected to them anymore
Yes...i saw it on Lamont at Large video!
❤️
@@sayitlikeitis9868 wish the little girls didn’t have his last name either. Sick bastard.
I just saw the story last night on Netflix. The oil is flammable and they had been in there for three days. The kids are essentially, a hazmat spill. Special precautions have to be taken. I cried because he was just a Dirtbag who just killed his innocent family for a woman he just met.
It is so sad to think that sweet kids are hazmat ugh
Patricia, agreed. With apologies to passable dirt bags everywhere, the father of the family (like Kari, I can't speak his name) doesn't rise the level of a dirt bag. It's really impossible to fathom this heinous crime. And the motive? Don't get me started.
We have to respect that Colorado doesn't have or doesn't want to use capital punishment, but it's better to have and seldom use, than to need and not have. Just ask Wisconsin. The fellow inmates in Jeffrey Dahmer's prison had more sense than the laws and judicial system of Wisconsin. They didn't want him around so they solved the problem themselves. We'll see what happens in this case.
@@KaritheMortician ll
One cant believe what Chris Watts did and now he has the audacity to mislead his parents et al that someone else is responsible.
@@conorwinston6205
A lot of states in this union are spinless.They believe in rehabilitation a creep.
One cannot rehabilitate monsters.Tennessee does participate in capital punishment.But it takes
decades in which I view unnecessary. But when a death row inmate's time is finally up..
Then there's an announcement about when it happen. Once it has been done. I am happy and I'll say,"Good!! about time, they're no longer a tax burden upon the people and good riddance."😐👍👍
I just have to say. As a physician, excellent discussion. I’ve always had tremendous admiration for morticians, but your video has taken that to another level. The education, character, and integrity it takes to do your job is quite startling. I hope that when I pass that I am in the hands of someone like you three.
Thanks again.🙏😊
Wow, thank you!
Agree.
Physician here too. And totally agree.
They should sew his eyelids open to force him to look at the Autopsy photos!!!!!
He swears he sees them every night in his cell. Their ghosts. I hope they haunt the living crap right out of him. Never let him have peace.
@@krystalgrimes716 yup he’s a liar like Scott Peterson
You nailed it 👍💯💯💯
CW didn’t want to see the little girls after being in the oil tanks.
They men that did remove the children from the oil tanks had to take leave from their job or even quit , it upset them so badly to see the little bodies Destroyed in oil.
So yes I agree Chris Watts or “who ever” put them into the oil tanks need to see pictures everyday on how these 2 little souls were destroyed, for the rest of their lives .
Bella & CeCe didn’t nothing to deserve this horrific death they got,
Shannan didn’t nothing to die for either.
So much hate from the mistress feeling second place in CW life because he already had a little family.
Now no one is with anyone
he would still say 'why did this happen to me'
They should of made him get them babies out of them tanks first and foremost, then they should of took pics of them and hung them in his room! God rest their souls!
When you said you "cared for somebody" - wow, that took my breath away. What a beautiful way to refer to your process.
Wow thank you!
My. Mom was not a crime victim but I can definitely say that the funeral home owner (also the embalmer) and staff cared for her.
He had taken care of a good number of my family, including an aunt who died by suicide. ,❤️
I think being an embalmer/undertaker takes a special kind of empathic kind caring and respectful personality that dosnt seperate the living from the dead in that they treat EVERYONE whether their alive or dead with the up most respectful manner! Kudos to these guys and all the other similar ppl out there doing the same job all over the world! 👏✌
I watched the Netflix special on this case a few months ago. There is a special place in hell for him.
I truly hope so
How can he even think that he will reunite in heaven with his family one day. Has the guts to call baby nico , his little man. He's so dillusional.
@@annamariascalderaro-defina8969
Thats exactly what I said..
The Bible says that for sure there are only 2 sins that will keep you out of Heaven. ..1 is murder (of anyone, ) never mind your own wife and children that are God Given..
2 is Adultery!!! That maniac really thinks he's Goldenboy.!!!
He needs to be told that Gods Law cannot be broken, EVER.. So why does he think they're all gonna' be together again in the after life...He danced with the devil, theres only one place he's going..?
He's enjoying LIFE NOW...no having any responsibilities or cares...plus the money grubbing FanGranny Cheryln Cadle who wrote two big failure so called books and called him CHRISTopher to give him a holy spin to his name AND put her own spin on what CW did to his daughters..the spin about little Bella being walked up the steep steps to her DEATH...while Chris held 40 lb dead CeCe in one arm and pulling terrified and screaming Bella in his left hand...did NOT happen and is simply cadles OWN LIES she wrote in the last book...i say BULLship..no way did that happen the way Cadle wrote...chris would have tons of scratches on his hand and legs!
AND THERE is NO bombshell in THE BOOK AND the letters from CHRISTopher ARE not ledgable due to faded ink AND downsized to 50%....
BUT I guess she's needing to recover money lost on the 1st book because she was caught then sued for plagiarizing from another auther who happens to be a successful attorney and Cadle was forced to remove it from sales and pay Ann Howard money... Cadle lied and had promised the WATTS to write about Chris Christian conversion...but switched to true crime... So much for her being a Christian woman...ha!
Thank you all. I loved when you said the people you "cared for". That is what you guys do when we cannot care for the final needs of our loved ones. Thank God for you all.
Thank you!
You guys sound so sympathetic and respectful towards the deceased. Bless you for that 🙏🏻
We appreciate that!
Exactly the vibe that I felt. Sure it’s an “occupation” but these folks speak with such a sensitivity.
They are un sung heroes. Its not everyone that can do that job and with such dignity,
very caring of you all.
I’m a disabled nurse from years ago, and I’m old now,...but I always wanted to work in pediatrics when I finished nursing school, but after only a couple of months being around children who were not only sick, but the abused, the dying, the crying of which I felt too deeply about and put me into depression,..I could not continue and go into another field. The babies and children are the most innocent in this world and I would cry with them when they cried. I just can’t understand how anyone could harm an innocent child, much less their own parent/parents. It truly is beyond any kind of human understanding.💔
So true
I went thru the same thing as you i"m so sorry I started with abused children I had my own children and I started getting paranoid. at that time and I totally understand you. it was hard.
I’ll never understand what can possess someone to do what Chris did. It is beyond normal human comprehension.
Which is great because that mindset should never be duplicated
It's very disturbing behaviour. Hard to believe such cruelty exists. What drives someone to destroy their family. His detachment was unreal.
His sicko satanist witch girlfriend likely invited demons into his life to do this. There is no rational explanation for this level of evil and callousness. His mistress had a satanic bible on her work desk, and CW tells police he will take to the grave what went on in her apartment with her group of friends who were "into very dark things."
@@KaritheMortician amen!!
It definitely is beyond comprehension thats why I dont believe the "normal" Chris (wonderful dad ) committed all the crimes....Nicole has the answer!!! She has been seen by her ex colleague reading book on satanism ....detectives must cross examine Nicole and friends and do a polygraph test ....I promise they are accomplices....Chris is a troubled soul being bombarded with all sort of questions left right and centre. Nicole please come clean!!!
Shan'ann Rzucek, Bella Rzucek, ms cece Rzucek & master Nico Rzucek will never be forgotten & i mean that.....they mattered, the family left behind matter, friends too...
thank you
Humans can be so inhuman. This is one of the saddest stories in the press. It breaks my heart how some can be so uncaring.
So very true
Yup
I agree. Its so sad. How this father and husband can do this to his flesh. I mean he's a monster. He C .W couldn't even have Shannans family have them see there daughter and grandbabies closure for the last time.
@@annamariascalderaro-defina8969 If CLW could have stuffed Shan'nan's body down those silos full of oil along with his 2 little girls, the state wouldn't have been able to prove capital murder x 4. There was enough circumstantial evidence imo for lesser charges to stick. He should get the death penalty. #childrensLIVESmatter.
Oops
Thank you all! Tough subject handled amazingly well and professionally.
Much appreciated!
I completely agree 👍
Human depravity at its worst with people like him. Thank you funeral caretakers for ALL you do! The world needs y’all and especially ones who truly care about the deceased and their loved ones.❤️🙏 Y’all have the highest potential of seeing the worst of humanity so prayers for you all!
Very true
When I lost my father, I can personally say that the funeral director I dealt with gave me some of my best support. The funeral home even called several weeks later to offer free counseling services for one of my children who was experiencing heightened grief. In other words, they didn't see my father's death as a profit margin. They actually cared about the entire family and that meant the world to me. I have the utmost respect for people who treat our lost loved ones like one of THEIR own.
What do you think let alone do when you and your deceased loved ones are disrespected continuously during their life and once they have passed?!?! You vomit and so on because it did not and does not end there! How can so called people and professionals do such things and be so cool, coy about what they have done with no fear of consequences to them for evil, illegal criminal acts????!!!!
Chris's mom was so jealous of Shanann and all she had, and she had Chris. I'm not sure what Shanann saw in Chris but I do know she was too good for him and his heartless family. I'm so sorry Shanann that your life intersected with this horrible family. RIP
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That mother.of his had alot to do with all of it, indirectly...wacko
@@alexandriafitts9262 or directly. We shall see
@@katied3849 I feel he did not do this on his own for some reason. Either mummy or girlfriend had a hand in this.
I'm the documentary it was stated that his mother and sister didn't like Shan'ann. Chris stated they felt like she was taking him away. So yes, his family certainly did have a part in the heartless act of the monster that came from her body.
This case still hurts me today 2021 I watched it from the beginning . May shanann Cici Bella And baby Niko all Rest In Peace thanks for the information . You guys
Thank you
Same here, Marian. This case struck me so hard - it was so evil! I became very invested in it.. I've watched all of the interviews and police first response and subsequent search and investigation videos, the media interviews of Chris "appealing" for information about his family and the neighbour showing his security video, all his confession and court videos - and NK' s interviews. Plus I've read the full discovery and all of the books written so far, and listened to all of the recordings of his telephone conversations. Anything that's related to the case, I've covered it all. And I STILL can't wrap my head around it. Now CW claims he's found Christ in prison... Poppycock! Utter poppycock. He actually thinks he's going to get out of prison one day! He belongs in hell.
I also just happen to see the first news reports of missing mom & girls. But horrifically realized like so many that Chris knew exactly where they were. Even remember Sandy telling CW not to do interviews!! Thankfully Nicole set those interviews up herself!! She KNEW CW did something to them and actually getting CW to talk at all would get everyone else to see it too!
@@j.whiteoak6408 I agree. It is funny how they all find Jesus or God in prison. Such a cop out. Trying to get out of prison. I am surprised that other prisoners have not dealt him some of his own medicine (especially for child murders). I live in Australia and this has effected us so much.
I wish they could put a projector up and play on his prison walls or better yet the ceiling) videos of the autopsy pictures and living videos.
All night long with them calling his name.
As, he is strapped down for his own protection.
He's insane.
Sadly he probably wouldn't even care
@@KaritheMortician I said the same thing🥲
I think he's insane too, but let's not give him this excuse!@ He did what he did on purpose!
Play the video of Bella singing about her daddy being a hero. But he would just try acting like he cared when we know better.
I said the same thing ..they should put pics up in his cell and play Bella singing tht song 24 /7 .
He's a monster why not just bloody leave
So true
So sad. That's all he needed to do.
Without killing anyone
It may have to do with money or child support. Even if he would have had to pay all that money after the divorce, that would have been a better alternative to divorce instead of annihilating his family.
CW actually thought that he was going to have a new life together with his mistress, Nickhole Kessinger - and SHE didn't feel that there were any "firsts" left that she could share with Chris. "But I wanted to be the one to give you your first son..blah blah blah". Nickhole may not have murdered anyone...She may not have even known that he would kill his family so he could be with her, but she certainly was the sole catalyst for what CW did. The most evil husband and father the 21st century!
I watched the funeral of this family and the girls were in a casket of their own. The mother and baby were in a casket together. I couldn’t help but cry. I had followed the story so I knew a lot about it. It wasn’t my intention to watch the funeral, I just ran across it on UTUBE..
shanann and the 14/15 week old fetus were not in the same casket
Do you have a source on that because I could not find one to confirm?
It really is captivating
@@Sssssssslf Any idea where he was then? Did he have his own casket? 🤔
@@Sssssssslf I read that the mother crocheted a blue blanket and the baby was put inside of it and is in Shannon's arms in the casket
This isn't about the body condition, but I don't think the dad's punishment was enough for the crime. How could you do that to your family!
I don't think there is enough punishment for him
@@KaritheMortician they just basically gave him a slap on the hand.
He really doesn’t have any real punishment. His conditions are not harsh. He has a roof over his head, a cot to sleep on, three meals a day, commissary items, visitors, phone calls, showers, medical care, tv, Bible study, reading materials, etc. The many who are homeless have it much worse than him.
What do you mean? The family wanted that sentence. It's not up to you.
@@jacqueline3782
This IS about public opinion!
Chris Parents should listen to this.....let’s see if they will Laugh & giggle with their murderess son like they done on that visit...they act like his there for a DUI
Agreed!
They are just as adult as he is.. EVIL..
@@janetbenning2645 absolutely. There are receipts that they conspired to achieve the end result. I’ll leave that there. But there’s absolute indisputable proof and multiple people have it.
Terrible humans
They are disgusting people and it’s not hard to figure out where his lack of morals, character and decency come from.
Thank you for settling the alcohol blood level straight.
You are welcome! It was interesting to research
It still makes me cry when you speak of what happened to the girls ,it’s heartbreaking to just sit and think of how this happened to them,it’s so very very sad.
It is heartbreaking :(
What a respectful, while still very real, discussion about this horribly heartbreaking case. Thank you all for your insight.
Thanks so much!!
Thank u for the information and understanding.
You guys did a great job, Kari. I really enjoyed the live tonight. Thank you all.
Glad you enjoyed it!
The funeral is on You Tube and another about the grave site. Shanann's parents made the arrangements and buried them through their church. His parents and family didn't show up for the funeral.
It was respectful that they didn't honestly, it would have been a circus if they had
@@KaritheMortician I totally agree!
They were asked by her parents not to show up after discussing how bad the media was involved in the case. Both families have talked about this. It was very respectful of the Watts to have their own service privately for the girls.
They also used the last name Rzucek on all 3 headstones. The Watts name is nowhere on any of them
@@triedntru8049 no they did not. They simply left the name Watts off of the children's names. They only used her maiden name on the end of her name
As a brand new father (I have a 8 month gorgeous baby girl) I am in absolute shock to this case. I heard about about this on the Netflix documentary and since then have been digging into it, and for the life of me, I am absolutely gobsmacked. Those poor beautiful girls are seared into my brain and I cry for all of them, as they did not deserve this. The worse is that, he separated them all in death. That hurts, I'm so sorry for the mother and girls and I now grip my baby girl harder than ever before I kiss her goodnight. That being said, I'm so grateful for your professionalism, you among the Law enforcement, fire department and everyone else involved are the heroes of the world and I thank you for your services. Bless you all, please spread love not hate. And R.I.P little ones, mommy and baby. Your always in our thoughts and prayers.
Yes so true!
Usually, when people are working with a funeral director, embalmer, etc it’s during a loss. Your mind doesn’t work much further than picking out a coffin, the music & paying for all this. Soo...it’s really eye opening to hear a few of the decisions you guys are making on the live family members behalves. Because the media is so loose lipped nowadays, people learn of details they were never faced with before. Myself, I find all aspects of it interesting & sometimes heartbreaking, as in this case.
Thank you all for truthful answers.
Stay safe!
You are welcome!
I love the idea of this series! You are one busy lady. Working, momming, etc and still putting out new videos and more content than any creator I follow. You are a rockstar! 😎
Yes! Thank you!
You guys are very courageous. Thank you for still having a sound mind, with the kind of jobs ya'll have.!
We do our best!!
Thank you for giving us the breakdown and disclosure of this information. Nobody else has done that to date.
My grandmother is a funeral director, my ex girlfriend was the coroner's right hand and I was going to school to get my doctorate in Forensic pathology. I may have enough credits to get my license as a funeral director. I stopped going to school after my grandfather passed away. I was living with him at the time. But 14 years have come and gone since then.
You guys are awesome!
You are welcome!
Thank you so much for this, all of you ❤ I've worked with funeral directors in the past and I have always been struck by their care, respect and professionalism. And here you are, doing the same. Much respect to you for talking about these uncomfortable truths. As to the case you talked about, it is so awful, unimaginably horrible. When I now think of the funeral directors who undertook this traumatic case, I have such respect and hope that at last, the family were given over to genuine care before their funerals. They shouldn't be dead. They should be here. It is abominable that they are not and that the husband and father is responsible for it.
It is really so sad
Gosh you 3 all look so young , I’ve always imagined much older people in this job choice , good to see younger ones doing this , I see you all take this very seriously
Thanks!! We are middle of the pack :)
You all handled this topic so respectfully, while remaining professional and compassionate. Would love to watch more videos in this series.
More to come!
It’s just f...ing
unbelievable that this happened to innocent babies
So true
And his innocent wife shanann.
Thank you guys for doing a job that must be so hard emotionally and thank u for ur care,concern, compassion, loyalty youse are doing everything that there dad and husband should of been doing.. Love from IRELAND...xxxxx
Every single day children die from child abuse and neglect.
Took the words right out of my mouth.
I've always wondered how the autopsies of severely damaged bodies differ from normal death autopsies and the psychological effect on the staff that handle such brutal crime victims. God bless you and your profession and thanks for the information.
Thank you so much
When I watched this on Netflix, I couldn't get it out of my mind for days. It is so unbelievable that a father would do such a horrible thing not to mention kill his wife. I can't help but feel that evil is so strong that it doesn't have a conscience. He could have had a divorce if he wanted out. So very sad. I don't know how morticians can deal with this horror.
The whole story is unbelievable to a sane person. It is just so sad.
@@KaritheMortician
Just an FYI the facts in the Discovery show Chris didn't kill them or dispose of them. They were not killed on Mon and they were not killed the way Chris said they were. They weren't killed until late Tuesday night and he couldn't get how each were killed right. According to the autopsies and tox reports, NOTHING he said matched any of the evidence and facts. It has been proven that all the information has shown that Shanann was barely in rigor and there were no flies, maggots or larvae present. It was the middle of Aug with temps above 90. If you're going to report on the story then I wanted you to know the facts.
*you can find these facts in the discovery on pg 84, which says NO ONE was killed in the house, taken through the garage or put in his truck*.
@@detdd9430 Where did you read/hear this please, on Netflix?
@@christinecox6049
Did you not read my whole comment?? I said specifically what and where you can find THESE FACTS. I DO NOT go off the nonfactual "theories".
@@detdd9430 Thanks for the angry but useless reply, I wanted to watch it myself so I can determine why everyone else on the planet (who has an opinion) thinks he did it and you don't, I only see one comment from you "The Discovery Show" is all it says
Thank the Lord for people like you guys. It takes someone special to do your job. I wouldn't want it. Shannon's mother revealed that she crocheted a little blue blanket and placed Nico in his mother's arms. 😪
Thank you :)
AWWW, that's really sweet. May they all RIP
Awww that’s sweet but heartbreaking at the same time since Nico wasn’t able to get to grow up full term
Awwwww I just can't with this case... I guess to the normal brain you can't comprehend how can someone hurt their own children!
Heartbreaking for Shananns family
All three of you kept your up most respect up on how this was put out well done guys very interesting
Thank you!
Thank you all for your respect to this family. I can't imagine the trauma that the rescue personal went through. And also the funeral directors. God bless them all.
Thank you!
Thank you for approaching this sensitively and from an educational standpoint. As someone who views funeral directing as their calling, it was incredibly interesting! I hope you continue the series x
Thank you! Yes four more planned already!
Kari Bless your soul for touching on such a horrific case and you all did it with wonderful dignity and grace. I have been following that case and it is such a legal mess RIP Shannan,Bella, Celeste and Nicho
Thank you so much!!
I have been waiting for a professional video discussing this aspect of the case. I had a few questions and they handled the situation with extreme respect.
Well said.. Kari defines grace and dignity.
I’ve been following this case from day one. There are still people who talk it about on here on a daily basis (and I still watch). It breaks my heart.
Same🙋♀️
I can't imagine it not being sad to someone
Re Lacys pregnancy, Conner wasn't a coffin birth, nor did her baby pass vaginally, her cervix hadn't opened. Conner was able to leave her body due to lacys other organs being passed. So once her lungs,liver & heart left her body, he eventually passed too, until then her uterus protected him.
thank you
I looked it up. The girls couldn’t be cremated, because, as frank ruzcek said “they would have blown up a building”. They had to be put in a large coffin wrapped in special material to fly. Also, the family members never got to see them before burial. Very sad.
There would not have been much to see I am guessing sadly
Kari and colleagues, thank you for this podcast.
As a mom of three and grandma, this case is haunting.
Thank you for your service to the community and the families you assist.
I especially appreciate the mention of bathing as the first action you perform for those in your care. It is the first step restoring the patient back to themselves, as they were before they died.
It honors their humanity, and for that I am sure many are very grateful. God bless you.
Thanks so much!
Thank you so much for offering a scientific analysis on the post-mortem factors. Forensics are an important element, and I hope your channel does not get censored, or blocked. These discussions are not for everyone, but they’re a crucial contribution. Good work!
Thank you!
Thank you for sharing your expertise and experience. I’m a ER nurse and found this fascinating and educational. Appreciate your professionalism and compassion as well. ❤️
You are so welcome!
According to the mortician statement to Shannan's parents, the two girls could not be laid in same coffin .... friction of two crude oil soaked bodies a hazard of flame and explosion. That is why they were buried in large coffins due to their angelic remains being placed into sealed biohazard flame proof containers then placed into adult size coffins. May they all four rest in peace. God bless the Ruesak family. I am glad they buried all of them as Ruezaks and not watts.
Yes I agree
Thank you for this information! I must say I did wonder why there were three adult size caskets.
Im so glad you made this video, very interesting (yet heartbreaking) but most importantly I’m grateful that EXPERTS are verifying Shanann was NOT drunk!
Thanks so much!!
The unlawful abortion of a fetus, basically, is what he was charged for on Nico. Such a sad case. I'm an aspiring mortician, but the only thing holding me back from starting the real process of becoming one is having to deal with children. The idea didn't bother me before having kids, but after - it's an intense internal battle.
Thank you
Very interesting! Thanks for doing this Kari! As a chemist, I really like the science behind everything, especially decomp.. all chemical processes
You are so welcome!
Thank you for speaking on this, it was interesting to hear about what happens in these types of cases. My heart goes out to the professionals who have to handle these tragedies and help the grieving families cope as best they can. It would be interesting to hear more about how funeral homes handle other unique situations.
More to come!
I did read that baby Niko was buried with her. 🥺 My heart breaks every time I think or see anything about this case. They deserved so much better. He is such a coward and his side piece should've been charged because she was involved.... Anyway... May Shanan and her precious babies rest in heavenly peace. 🥺💝
Thanks for the input!
she definitely said something to him to get him thinking like maybe she didn’t want baby momma drama or didn’t wanna be a step mother but something...
He wasn't buried with her, it was a "coffin death", meaning the baby came after her death and after she had been placed there.
You're right. Recently, a man who is into paranormal investigations went to the gravesite and whilst I don't think the tools he used to try to communicate with Shan'ann, Nico or Bella and Celeste were good or that he should've chosen their gravesite to do that, the grave itself has a beautiful memorial and it's in a very beautiful, quiet and peaceful place. They're buried together.
@@CL-es2kj They meant the baby was formally buried with her, in the coffin with her. There were 3 coffins at the funeral: CC, Bella, Shanaan & Nico together
The girls couldn't be in wood casket they had to be metal and had to be sealed bc they would blow up. If you watch the Dr phil episode with her family her mom explains it.
Yes she does thank you
Also because of being in the oil drums, there bodies will leach contaminates for decades to come.
That evil bas**** would have known this too, he was well trained on the contents of those containers.
Rest in peace little angels💗💗
@@mssleekit341 It has been implied that some believe there was a longer term plan to stage an explosion at the site; basically mimicking another explosion at a different site not too long prior to the murders.
@@IllumiNauti nothing about that monsters evil capabilities would surprise me... to change how he did after meeting NK is just terrifying!
Let’s pray he’s one of a kind🙏
Such a sad story. Thanks Kari, Ryan and Brian for talking about some of the things that are actually done in caring for victims in cases like this one.
You are welcome!
As squeamish as I am, these type of videos are fascinating. Thank you for being so professional and sensitive when tackling this case.
You are so welcome!
I had a brother In law that owned a funeral home, he did what you all do. I myself don't think I could do what you all do. I am thankful for you, and what you do, you make our loved ones that have left us look beautiful and at peace. God bless you all. and
Thank you so much!!
Kari another case you could discuss is the senseless killing of the Lori vallow children.
Yes you will hear the guy in an upcoming state video talk with me about that case! I said it would be an interesting one to discuss for sure!
If they hadn't found those babies would they have ever detected remains in that tank ? How long would it have taken for the bodies to complete breakdown? I apologize for sounding insensitive to anyone thats not my intention at all .
I kind of wonder too. Like the young lady that was found in a water tank. I was imagining people drinking that water with a body inside. I don't think that happened though, but my mind goes there.
The bones or tissue may have eventually been found or blocked a pump if that is how they extract the oil?
@@Carmen-us1ew hotel guests DID drink that water! Showered and brushed their teeth too! That new Netflix documentary interviewed a couple who was staying there during the same time Elisa Lam went missing and talked about the smell and taste of the water! Gives me goosebumps!
@@KaritheMortician oh lord 😮😔 how horrible just unbelievable
@@Marcia.Marcia.Marcia Oh wow!! I couldn't remember if they did or not. That's just terrible, and very sad. Do you happen to know why they weren't getting in ground water? Or am I missing something?
I did not realize he took the little girl out and buried the mom and then took each child and murdered them separately, while he left the other one in the car! This monster is really sick! That family was beautiful! So,sad! 😢😢😢😢
I don't think Chris's parents even went to their funeral. Goes to show what kind of grandparents they were. They are just as evil and messed up as their son.
I have read they did another funeral but have not verified
I think they would have gotten lynched if they did.
Heart, heart breaking story, you were all so respectful. I can not imagine the visual horror of this story. Thank you so much for you professional approach to such a delicate topic.
Thank you all for the work you do! So difficult do deal with & you guys do what needs to be done with dignity for the victims & compassion with the families. And the fact that you choose this as your job, I thank you for doing such difficult but important work. ❤️✌️
Thanks so much
He declined to see any of the photos of the girls after the was asked during the sentencing. He's a MONSTER.
They should paste his cell with the photos and play videos of the children 24/7, especially when beautiful bella is singing “my daddy is my hero” and play the words “daddy no”!!
He should not have had a choice; he should have been forced to look at ALL those photos. Makes me physically sick how a husband can do this to his (pregnant) wife and children.
I would thing they were shown during the trial but he may have closed his eyes
@@KaritheMortician Thank you so much for your comment. That is not something I had thought of!
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I dont think so, Kari. There really wasnt a trial.
A very speedy plea agreement followed by a quick sentencing.
The lack of trial & evidence is why people are so drawn to this case. Also why they have such (volital) personal opinions.
Her BAC was 100% from decomposition and being buried in an oil field. I’m so glad that Kari said that because so many people are ignorant.
I agree it can cause misinformation!
Agree
Thankyou for the jobs you all have! I never thought about your line of work, but the older I get, the more fascinating Im finding it.
Glad you enjoy it!
I've been a Nurse for 23 years. This video had so juch information I didn't know.
I learned a lot researching too!!
Same for me and I am a retired Palliative Care nurse.
I can see the heartbreak in all your faces even though you wasn't there. You all seem like such caring people. I hope when I die someone as caring and sweet as you all are takes care of me and my loved ones when our time comes. Thank you♥️ much respect for what you do.
I can't imagine seeing what that funeral director did. We see horrible things.
@Kari the mortician, as heart breaking and horrific as this case was, I found this video with Brian and Ryan to be very informative, so thank you very much! You three really know your profession :)
Thank you so much!!
I remember when she first went missing. Never expected this type of outcome :/ but when that monster did the news interview I knew right there he did something. Excuse my language but what a sick bastard...just remember it was daylight out when he killed Cece so Bella saw everything.
It is so horrible
😢😢😢😢😢
The cops usually suspect right away the husband did it because they usually do.
The sick bastard even told the initial detectives in his case when they went to see him a year after sentencing in his prison that Bella asked him "Daddy are you going to do to me what you did to CeCe and he told her "yes baby". Like what in the actual hell 🤬 hell will be to kind for this monster!
Very interesting! The actual reason for both girls needing larger caskets that could be sealed was due to the complete saturation of the crude oil and the extreme flammability of the noxious gasses. That was also part of the danger of recovery of these babies bodies. Heart wrenching.
Thank you
You are amazing people who are the unsung heroes. It's great to see you reply to people's comments. God bless.
This hurts so bad i can't believe people have no self control. My hart goes all the family. I cried as you talked about it. Very interesting.
It has to break anyone's heart hearing the story
This is such a sad and tragic case. Thank you all for the video
You are welcome!!
I don't understand what is going on in Colorado this past yr. The Watts case, the Morphew case, multiple deaths at a grocery store, multiple deaths at a birthday party; all that and Columbine as well. Such sad stories. My condolences to the families and friends of the victims and my prayer is that the victims rest in peace in God's loving embrace.
Yes, something heavy over Colorado.
And never forget Gannon Staunch...another horrific Co. Case
So many crazy things happen there!!
Wow, what a hard topic! Very well done!
Thank you!
8 inches too small for Shanann, 8 inches was way to small for his daughter's they weren't infants!!
So true
He had to force the eldest daughter, Bella, into the oil battery. Her hair was found on the rim of the tank.
@@Sharon-pb7so I can't even think of it, I know it's true, but it's hard to accept!!
How could they clean their bodies with so much slippage..omg. It's so painful to think of..i cannot imagine her parents, the recovery team, the funeral directors, and those who had to do the autopsies..they are ALL in my prayers. PTSD is a very real thing..praying for their mental health and for their souls..
Agreed!
I'd just go with a closed casket, I don't see the point of putting people on display. I've been to countless funerals (too many!) but only one lid was open. ...and the occupant didn't look like themselves from real life.
But hey, each to their own.
@@JSkyGemini They had to put the girls into 2 caskets, the inner one was protective because they had become hazmat. The outer casket was just for a normal looking coffin.
They had to take swabs for the oil that they were submerged in but they both were buried separately they were in closed caskets in a bag within a bag withing a casket
@@JSkyGemini I'm with you on this. I can't get the image of my loved one laying in a casket. I want to remember them when they were alive.
I will never understand how this man could have done this. It's just heart breaking, and sad.
Pure evil
About 4 years ago my best friends son got hit on a road near home by an off duty state trooper. I went to his funeral. The mother my best friend was pretty much destitute and had no money for a funeral. The father said he wouldn't pay a penny it's all on mom. The funeral home did their best and gave him a funeral as cheap as they could.
He had no casket. He layed on a bed of ice and proped by ice. The embalmer guy was acting very strange, many people noticed. My friend, the mother said that this was his first child and then try to do it as cheap as possible was very hard on him. Was a job well done.
It takes very special people to perform jobs such as yours.
Thank you for what you all do..I know I couldn't do it.
All the best to you!
Oh goodness that is an interesting story!
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So he was buried in the ground with no coffin? I'm surprised that people didn't contribute for a coffin.
@@freedomfightergrl5615 No, he was cremated. Didnt have a funeral. He didnt even have nice clothes for his viewing. The funeral home had a lay over suit that he could wear. The father never came to the funeral. About 3 months later...the father had been harassing the mother. She had lupus with a growth around her carotid artery an was to stay as stress free as possible. If she got stressed that growth tightened around her artery so much she'd start having seizures. She passed away as the boys father was dragging her to the door to throw her out. That's what he always did. Ambulance had to retrieve her from the yard. Well anyways...funeral home found out that the father made bank on her death so the funeral home had to sue him to recoup any of their money.
An no one offered to help or contribute or even loan any money to help with the funeral. That father didn't even help his daughter who was pregnant at that time an 16 years old. He did buy his oldest son a truck and land with a mobile home on it to live in.
He'll get his one of these days.
@@soal3415 So the mom was living with the dad? I thought maybe they were separated. It sounds like a very abusive situation. I'm sorry for your friend and her son. How old was he? I'd never heard of anyone being viewed on ice. My friend's mom recently passed and they didn't have money. She was immediately creamated. They had a celebration of life at a church. The preacher was a family friend, so I'm sure he didn't charge anything. He was from a different church too, not the preacher of the church that the ceremony was in. The urn was there with photos around it. It was a nice, simple gathering.
Unusual how I was unintentionally directed to this case only recently! And what informing myself with its details has awoken in my past memories experiences! Absolutely horrible! This video and the comments made me cry! They touched on raw wounds and hurt with similar post mortem occurrences to a deceased loved one! That pain never goes away! It is a good reminder whenever I need a reality check! Thank you! I feel for the innocent victims of this hideous crime!
Thank you!
I just can’t imagine how emotionally
hurt the morticians were after that event!
I’m glad other morticians are going over the discovery
Yes!
You know when you think bout this it’s awful.. horrific.. can’t even wrap your mind around it.. but when you see funeral directors facial expressions listening and talking about this when they deal with death day in and day out and they can’t comprehend it.. it just shows you how much worse that it really was.. this whole case destroyed me.. Chris was a sick sob. I just can’t imagine being in the shoes of the family, the police officers, the rescuers, the funeral directors literally any and every one who was personally affected by this horrible tragedy.. my heart goes out to each and every one of them. Rest In Peace Shannan, Bella, CeCe, and Nico.. Fly high sweet angels!
Its beyond a nightmare
There's literally thousands of pics and videos of Bella, CeCe and Shannan - so alive and full of life...and they make it so much harder to believe that they are all gone, or to understand how the hell CW could do that to his beautiful family. He is not human : (
So true!
I can’t believe that those girls didn’t sustain injuries being put in those vats. just a very barbaric way to die. May they rest in everlasting peace 💜💜💜❤️🥰🙏
Yes
They didn’t die in the oil tanks. They were dead before they were put there
My Uncle was a hitchhiker in the 1980's. He had his disability check come to my mother's address as his permanent address. He was living in Chicago at this time. He always hitch hiked his way down the end of the month to take care of his business and see us. He Didn't come the end of January. As we all know Chicago to St Louis can be a pretty brutal month to be traveling because of weather. Evidently he was under a viduct and had managed to make a can of soup and he had a daily newspaper. Some gentleman happened on him about a month later when he had a flat tire. I can only imagine how shaken he was. Anyway this is a long story so I will cut to the chase. Someone had to claim the body. Everyone was freaking out except me (ex -military medical specialist Vietnam era) I go I will go. I remember driving up to this hospital that was holding him in the Morgue. It was all very clinical and to the point. The Administrator of the hospital was there (and this was Midnight) She took me to the morgue. They pulled him out to view and he was in a body bag. They unzipped his head to his shoulders. They told me he had ice on him so they had to slowly raise the temp they were holding him in to bring his temp up slowly of his body. The Administrator said "are you sure this is your Uncle"? I said yes. I mean he had not been shaved for a month but other than that and the ice on him I could see through it all and tell it was my Uncle. She handed me a clipboard of I have no idea now but a ton of paperwork that had to remain in Illinois then have the body transferred to Missouri state line, Then again have paperwork to transfer from State of Missouri line to the Funeral Home I had set up to take him.
As I was doing all this paperwork she made me view him 2 more times and make SURE he was my uncle. I finally got tired of her crap and told her I knew what death is and had seen more than she ever would because I was in the F------ Army as a Field Medic during Vietnam era. I also informed her if she handed me a razor and shave cream that would be the deciding factor. That was her cue to leave me to all the paperwork! The funeral home had me make 2 different funerals one to be able to view him and one where we could not view him. Whats the difference? They told me either the casket could be open or they would have the casket sealed meaning the screws they put in would tighten everything down so no one could open the lid. All I can say is for being my first funeral to do for my family it was a Rodeo. It only set me up for more unbelievable deaths to come. This is NOT everything I went through with my Uncle's funeral. For all I dealt with the Funeral home said I was a remarkable person for how I dealt with everything. If anyone wants more into this (Morticians) just leave a message and I will get in touch with you. Last year I got to deal with my oldest son commiting suicide on Meth and Cocaine. So I guess funerals are not the norm for me.
Wow thank you for sharing this story
@@KaritheMortician Most welcome. The newspaper was the deciding factor of how long he had been there. Love your bits of odd humor. If I had not had some of the same for all I have seen of death, I would be in the loony bin by now LOL
Heather Jones...you took the words out of my mouth!! So respectful and obviously knowledgeable people of their field!! First visit to channel. Much respect and thank you to you all for your service to your communities! PS: Indiana here
Wow, thank you!