Liszt. Totentanz - Martha Argerich (Live Paris 1986)

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  • @remsan03
    @remsan03 10 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    All those years of playing Scarlatti K141 d minor has lend itself well for the 08:04 part. The clarity like a machine gun

  • @solonka123
    @solonka123 13 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I was at the concert. Argerich is unique!

  • @connie_4154
    @connie_4154 8 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    It's not about the speed...
    she gives each note such distinct character while pulling such a long extended mood through out, which is absolutely mind blowing.
    Argerich never fails me, she is a genius!!

    • @francescoelia.marino
      @francescoelia.marino ปีที่แล้ว +6

      In fact, when people think that Argerich is speed only, they are totally wrong. Argerich is not only speed but also precision; she is the mastery and ability to play each piece in a totally unique way!!! She is the best, and the piano world will not be the same when we lose here. Some pianists practice 23 hours per day, and yet they can't reach her level.......

  • @ricardodick3203
    @ricardodick3203 8 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    This version, played by Martha, is one of the most beutiful musics that I heard in my life.
    Liszt was a genius. Arnaldo Cohen and Lisitsa plays as like Martha. God blessed all with an incredible capability to traduce all the emotions. Liszt would be proud.

  • @Hussain_Eidani
    @Hussain_Eidani 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wow, great work, amazing performance ❤

  • @789armstrong
    @789armstrong 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    the definitive version.

  • @k4ir0s
    @k4ir0s 7 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Possibly the most impressive performance by Argerich that I heard so far

  • @pianotreasures
    @pianotreasures 11 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I was there too. I remember she also played Falla's Nights in the gardens of Spain at the same concert.

  • @Sathrandur
    @Sathrandur 8 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    13:47 - I have never heard anyone play that bit so fast - but it's perfectly brilliant at that moment.

    • @tannerjordan2010
      @tannerjordan2010 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You should check out Cziffra's recording. He plays it faster, and inhumanly clean. It's really hard to believe what you're hearing.

    • @hayoung_kim01
      @hayoung_kim01 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      T. Jordan I think Argerich could make speed as fast as Cziffra's. But she wanted to emphasize that passage so took time like that.

    • @punchaloo
      @punchaloo 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Enrico Pace plays it uniform and faster

  • @stephenwagner3717
    @stephenwagner3717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    What a terrific audience. They participated wonderfully in this delicate, live, performance.

  • @JanBrianeAstom
    @JanBrianeAstom 11 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Liszt: "Martha, I am your father."
    Martha: "Mmkay."

    • @AtomizedSound
      @AtomizedSound 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      More like “no sh*t?”

  • @zebeauv
    @zebeauv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Les glissandi à la fin sont incroyables… Comme tout le reste, certes… Quel dommage que Martha n’ait plus joué cette œuvre…

    • @Pamela-dv7gb
      @Pamela-dv7gb ปีที่แล้ว

      D’ailleurs malheureusement je crois qu’elle be joue plus en concert à cause de sa santé alors même pour tout simplement l’écoute en personne c’est désormais impossible

    • @Pogouldangeliwitz
      @Pogouldangeliwitz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​Vous parlez d'Yvonne Lefébure, sans doute, Pamela chérie ?
      En effet du jour où elle a trépassé on ne l'a plus entendu jouer.
      Comme Marguerite Long, maintenant que j'y pense !

  • @doggasaur
    @doggasaur 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    its so great to have the opportunity to hear it 😭 martha is such a great pianist, a really big inspiration, i love her ❤️

  • @chp763
    @chp763 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    My beloved Martha

  • @solonka123
    @solonka123 13 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    @Facconti She did play it a few times in the late 80s. I also heard her performing it in Germany.

  • @123must
    @123must 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Grandissimi, Argerichc and Barenboim !
    Thanks

  • @MrInterestingthings
    @MrInterestingthings 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As frightening as Michelangeli ! This needs to get more attention .Zimerman really gets Liszt qualities . Argerich is a force of nature what she does comes after the technique it is her personality !

    • @Pogouldangeliwitz
      @Pogouldangeliwitz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I love her, but she's not even close to ABM

  • @sirshitsalot007
    @sirshitsalot007 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    wow truly masterful triangle playing!

  • @annah.1927
    @annah.1927 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    💐💐💐
    Merci beaucoup.

  • @shantihealer
    @shantihealer 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This work - both awesome and seldom played - has the unique quality of making ANY pianist who plays it sound like a legend.

  • @annah.1927
    @annah.1927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautiful ! 💐💐💐
    Thank you.

  • @123must
    @123must 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a rendition !
    A lot of thanks

  • @spark_6710
    @spark_6710 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow !!! Pretty awesome ! Fantastic !!!👍

  • @123must
    @123must 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful rendition by Argerich !
    Thanks

  • @hectorguilermowierna7705
    @hectorguilermowierna7705 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wikipedia dice de Martha Argerich lo siguiente: " Martha Argerich (Buenos Aires, 5 de junio de 1941) es una pianista argentina de música académica , considerada una de las mayores exponentes de su generación y la posguerra. Especialmente célebre por sus interpretaciones de F. Chopin, Franz Liszt, Johann Sebastian Bach, Robert Schumann, Maurice Ravel, Serguéi Prokófiev, y Serguéi Rajmáninov.

    • @CalamityInAction
      @CalamityInAction 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      hector guilermo Wierna Tiene sentido

    • @pianista-mediocre
      @pianista-mediocre 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      (she literally only played Rach 3)

  • @lanonyme
    @lanonyme 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    La Totentanz est connu comme l'une des partitions les plus difficiles de tout le répertoire pianistique. Martha est ici encore plus fulgurante que jamais. Dommage qu'à l'instar de France Clidat, elle n'est pas enregistré l'intégrale pianistique de Franz Liszt.

  • @thomasmartin4091
    @thomasmartin4091 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    shantihealer I'm not sure I agree with you but, nevertheless Argerich IS a legend in her own time and there is a reason for that - she's fantastic!

  • @hayoung_kim01
    @hayoung_kim01 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    She is genius

  • @Jasoconth
    @Jasoconth 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ive always wished she played this piece...turns out she did !!!

  • @giorgosmalefas170
    @giorgosmalefas170 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    12:07 Thank you Ferenc!

  • @JanosKmetyko
    @JanosKmetyko ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bravissimo.¨!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @val255
    @val255 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    there is no female pianist that can compare to her. She is one of a kind and the best female pianist of the century. simple as that...it is a joy just to listen and watch her. She is performing in USA for only 1 show in LA....have to go see her once live in my lifetime, and only hope she stays healthy.

    • @savonliquide7677
      @savonliquide7677 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      why this female distinction??? it has no sens at all

    • @savonliquide7677
      @savonliquide7677 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      certain poeple cannot breath without classify (rudely) and comparing (where there is simply no comparason to make!) it s not sport, it is music!

    • @tommarvoloriddle2965
      @tommarvoloriddle2965 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      val255 You're not doing her a favor by saying she's the best ever. Quite the opposite. You're making fans of other pianists dislike her for absolutely no reason. These "best something" comments need to stop. Music should never be a competition

    • @karinevahofbauer5960
      @karinevahofbauer5960 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ich hatte einen Podiumsplatz 1984 Mozarteum Salzburg Grosser Saal Martha Argerich & Nelson Freire...fenomenal. Naturgewaltig auf 2 Klavieren...leider weiß ich nicht mehr was das Program war.

    • @Pogouldangeliwitz
      @Pogouldangeliwitz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@karinevahofbauer5960Immerhin wissen Sie ja noch, dass Sie auf dem Podium sassen. So ist das Wichtigste hängengeblieben.
      Töne verhallen, aber Podien bleiben für immer.

  • @hectorguilermowierna7705
    @hectorguilermowierna7705 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dice Wikipedia de ésta obra lo siguiente: "Totentanz (Liszt) (inglés: Dance of the Dead): paráfrasis en Dies Irae, S 126, es el nombre de una sinfónica pieza para solista de piano y orquesta de F. Liszt, que se caracteriza por estar basado en el canto gregoriano llano melodía Dies Irae, así como para las innovaciones estilísticas atrevidas. La pieza fue planteada originalmente en 1838 y terminada en 1849; se revisó dos veces, sin embargo, en 1853 y 1859.
    Innovaciones estilísticas. La apertura se acerca sorprendentemente a la introducción en la Sonata para dos pianos y percusión de Bartók, obra compuesta casi 100 años después. Esto no puede ser coincidencia ya que Bartók frecuentemente interpretó el Totentanz de Liszt.
    Otras características modernistas son las secciones de toccata, donde las repetidas notas del pianista golpean con intensidad diabólica y efectos sonoros especiales en la Orquesta".

  • @irenenaselli2429
    @irenenaselli2429 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GENIAL !!

  • @annakavan1869
    @annakavan1869 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow.

  • @cbostrom6140
    @cbostrom6140 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Danny Elfman took alot of "inspiration" from this piece for the making of the music to The nightmare before christmas

    • @hb712
      @hb712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Old comment I know, sorry. This piece is actually based on a thematic motif “Dies Irae” based on a longer Gregorian chant. It’s one of the most quotes pieces of musical literature, from Berlioz to Liszt to Williams, Elfman, etc. The motif is essentially synonymous with death.

  • @vladibaby79
    @vladibaby79 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man kann vielleicht über diese Interpretation streiten, da einiges nicht so ist, wie man das gewohnt ist. Aber ich finde, man kann sicher nicht darüber streiten, da hier Argerich mit einer unfassbaren Ur-Energie am Werk ist. Diese Energie validiert alles was sie macht und es klingt sowieso richtig.

  • @cosmosescath621
    @cosmosescath621 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    En 1986, Martha était une splendeur à la chevelure noire ébène ! Mais sûr que pour la mettre en regard du Liszt aux cheveux blancs, cette personne qu'elle aime tant, le plus parmi les compositeurs, une image plus tardive est plus parlante.
    Interprétation fulgurante...

  • @libelle176
    @libelle176 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Martha,the greatest ever,and ever!!!!!!!!!

  • @nicolasgut6534
    @nicolasgut6534 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    woww

  • @annakavan1869
    @annakavan1869 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How insane one could be?

  • @ruthsalgado6775
    @ruthsalgado6775 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    13:43 best part!!

  • @timward4227
    @timward4227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Martha and have been enjoying her work, career for many years, also with Daniel Barenboim and the West Eastern Divan Orchestra, but I have to say think it was 86' with Krystian Zimmerman was the absolute best I have heard..

  • @solonka123
    @solonka123 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @solonka123 Martha is my friend.

  • @Fritz_Maisenbacher
    @Fritz_Maisenbacher 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Argerich is left , but something elder than Liszt .

  • @averoc
    @averoc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dies iræ, dies illa...

    • @DaleksInc
      @DaleksInc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Solvet sæclum in favílla...

  • @jannis11
    @jannis11 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    noIce

  • @lyghdha
    @lyghdha 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @solonka123 Please provide us with dates and location.

  • @remsan03
    @remsan03 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Martha is a bad ass

    • @hectorguilermowierna7705
      @hectorguilermowierna7705 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Moron

    • @remsan03
      @remsan03 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imbecile. Pathetic excuse of a man who watches too much Barbie videos.

  • @classicalmusic4027
    @classicalmusic4027 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shining intro??

  • @Pogouldangeliwitz
    @Pogouldangeliwitz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To me this sounds like Martha with a piece she hasn't played much, isn't comfortable with and hence (even) more nervous than usually.
    It's both stunning and perfectible, technically. And explosive, exciting, but also more often than not a tad sketchy, musically.
    Not her greatest achievement. But what a fun ride, what a thrill!

  • @misspeckpeck
    @misspeckpeck 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    the one on the right.

  • @archy9752
    @archy9752 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reminds me of Lord of the Rings, very nice.

  • @geuros
    @geuros 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    :D :D :D

    • @hectorguilermowierna7705
      @hectorguilermowierna7705 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Son dos pianistas con estilos distintos. Ni Cziffra es mejor que Argerich, ni Argerich es mejor que Cziffra.

  • @KC-wn4hi
    @KC-wn4hi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:49

  • @ChillinDylan2875
    @ChillinDylan2875 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:23
    1:53

  • @xoppa09
    @xoppa09 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    odd photo juxtaposition

  • @guillermocorvalan3725
    @guillermocorvalan3725 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    scary!!!!

  • @geuros
    @geuros 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    no man! Cziffra was reincarnated Liszt. I am sorry to say that, but whatever Argerich plays, it is great, but when Cziffra played Liszt, it was awesome, or directly the very best. Furthermore people really believed that Cziffra was reincarnated Liszt.

  • @MrStrav81
    @MrStrav81 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    RichB - you need to listen to Krystian Zimerman's. Another surprising good one is Arnaldo Cohen's. Also critically acclaimed is the Andre Watts recording, although I don't have it. Not sure which ones are on TH-cam. Zimerman's is for sure.

    • @Tenormind
      @Tenormind 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      MrStrav81 I’m a Zimerman fan but I couldn’t find any recording of Totentanz by him. Can you paste a link here please? I’m so curious about his rendition!

    • @tadeuandrade9134
      @tadeuandrade9134 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Listen Lisitsa solo performance of this composition...!!!

  • @KevNicolle
    @KevNicolle 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When you want to play like Cziffra, but you realize in the middle that you'"re NOT Cziffra ! That's an OK version, not even close to be the best one.

  • @poechopin
    @poechopin 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where did she get those opening chords? NOT the way Liszt wrote it!

    • @connie_4154
      @connie_4154 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Francis Cummings ?? the real opening was cut off it seems. was the orchestra part written by Liszt too?

    • @taputapuu9487
      @taputapuu9487 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +connie _ yes, this is original. Later he transcribed it himself for solo piano.

    • @Feniso
      @Feniso 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      What are you talking about? It sounds normal to me. What chords? What score are you working with?

    • @connie_4154
      @connie_4154 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @papageno, -- sorry -- I wasn't looking at the piano score, :eek: messed up :shy:

    • @erykszadkowski1687
      @erykszadkowski1687 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Considering that Liszt used to add whole improvised parts and cadenzas to pieces he played, he certainly wouldn't mind these few chords being changed.

  • @danieledirubbo3813
    @danieledirubbo3813 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Perchè non lo andate ad ascoltare da Michelangeli? Non mi piace che dite che l'allievo è meglio del maestro. È come dire che un neonato pesa di più di un mammut

    • @francescoelia.marino
      @francescoelia.marino ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Martha non è mai stata allieva di Michelangeli - ha fatto solo due o tre lezioni con lui e da qui a dire che sia una sua allieva c’è ne vuole. Gulda è stato il suo maestro ma non Michelangeli

    • @drrabner47
      @drrabner47 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ⁠​⁠@@francescoelia.marinoYou are right. And Martha has repeatedly said this. He only gave her several lessons. Gulda was her inspiration.

  • @bloodgrss
    @bloodgrss 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now we're getting again that confused musical typing that you were famous for before termination frederic/dumKid/Stan/et.al.!
    And the true level of your 'critical' insights-and an 'ass at the piano'...;-)

  • @richdisilvio4591
    @richdisilvio4591 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Decent performance but No comparison to Valentina Lisitsa & John Axelrod - the ultimate performance.

    • @rigel48
      @rigel48 ปีที่แล้ว

      Decent performance? joker!
      And ultimate performance doesn't mean much. Instead say that it is your favorite interpretation.

    • @richdisilvio4591
      @richdisilvio4591 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rigel48 No, it’s jokers who tell others how they should access music and speak. I said what I said and meant it. End of story.

    • @rigel48
      @rigel48 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richdisilvio4591 Don't worry. It doesn't matter what you say or think.

  • @joperez9892
    @joperez9892 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This doesn't really sound like Martha. Those rubato's in thge first 5 minutes and every where are not typical of
    her...

    • @hailzgeoff
      @hailzgeoff 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I rather agree with you. I'm not convinced that this really is Martha. As you say, the rubatos are unusually extreme for her, and i found the pianism is rather splashy by her normal high standards ( eg 11.18, and other places). She never recorded it officially, so maybe we will never know. I'm a huge fan, but if it is real, this recording does not do her justice.

  • @SELMER1947
    @SELMER1947 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great performance but Cziffra's version is by far above...

    • @rigel48
      @rigel48 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think they are both great.

  • @josephlaredo5272
    @josephlaredo5272 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm an Argerich fan but this is not one of her best performances. The slow variation in the middle is delicious, but otherwise she just plays fast and loose, to little musical purpose. Listen to Janis and Ginzburg for two very different but equally valid (and musical) takes on this odd piece.

  • @JoseAPerez-nq9vu
    @JoseAPerez-nq9vu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This definitely is not Martha: she doesn't play like that !

    • @bw2082
      @bw2082 ปีที่แล้ว

      The repeated notes at 8:03 confirm it is Argerich.

  • @babygirl4169
    @babygirl4169 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:51