Just roll with AOC, dude improved his game tremendously. He’s no longer a statue. And let’s be real, sanders is not so good that he will flip this franchise around. Idky everyone crying over not being able to draft sanders or ward. They just not franchise changing qbs
As a Warriors, A's, & Raiders fan since the 80s. To BUILD a winning culture you have to start beating the teams you're supposed too. Losing is cancerous and I'm surprised we held it together this long. 2 We need a physical and violent defense to compete in our division. In year 3 with half the starters on IR this defense still looked decent. Fully healthy in year 4 of the scheme should be alot more physical and faster. 3 The Oline is starting to gel with a little consistency. Surprisingly they're ranked in the top 10. Year 2 of them playing as a unit should show progress, especially with JPJ and DJ Glaze going into year 2. Last is AP has had 5 QBs in 11/2 years. Idk a coach in history that has won in those circumstances. IMO AP should at least get a season or 2 with a Bonified certified QB1. I see too many young players developed under him from 20, 44, JPJ, DJ Glaze, 89, 96 I mean I can go on and on. I'm old school so I love seeing players taking on Coach AP Raider mentality of violent physical football on both sides of the ball. Our Oline displayed this today, imo, for the 1st time all year as a unit. I don't want some offensive minded finesse coach to come in and screw it up. Have to reset the defense because P.G. will be gone. Then instead of year 4. The defense will be going into year 1 of a new scheme. Naw, give AP a QB1, RB1 WR1 and let him cook. Rebuilding a winning culture takes 2 to 3 seasons at least. Ppl say Dan Campbell is more experienced. All I know is AP has a better 1st year than him, period. With the worst qb room in the NFL.
@@raideralexofficialCuz we off more then a QB look what happened when we got an old running back just be productive. We need o line , RB and Wr winning these games shows us the young dogs we hv already growing !
Sanders was mediocre last night, I think his stock has fallen. I think we should take Jeanty, our running game has been terrible most of the season, he would turn our running game around, hence improving our offense. If our defense is healthy next year, we could have a much better team.
@itzmoney2390 He was mediocre in a big game, worst situation we trade up to get him. We can stay where we are at and still get him, such mediocrity with QB's this year. Jeanty would help us more, hoping he is our guy.
I'm with you on Jeanty I wanted a QB but I don't want to trade up in this draft class Get the best player, beef up the OL mainly guards, stack the defense, hope the team can carry the QB
You're right Jeanty would be a great pick old school football. Also sign the guard from KC Tre Smith and Tee Higgins. These pickups and a healthy defense makes us a playoff team.
If you feel that way you can still trade back and now we got multiple first round picks down the road to play with that #1 pick is still really valuable
@ someone has to want to trade up for that to happen. Not sure anyone would do that this year. And if they did, it probably wouldn’t be the haul the Bears got a few years back
Fans are being fooled by AOC winning against bottom feeder teams with back-up QB's just like last year SMH I feel like we screwed ourselves at QB, may as well get Jeanty, build up the OL, stack the defense as much as possible n hope the team carries the QB
What makes u say that bro just picking ur brain. Just cause I feel AOC ain’t getting a fair shake. He’s only played a few games last year and a few games this year with 2 different OC coordinators. And hasn’t had a full season to be judge. I’m not saying he is a Franchise qb but he could be a qb1. So just asking ur full opinion. Cause I think this dude can sling the rock yeah he’s a statue but with time from a good O-line he can cook. I feel he’s on the hot seat as soon as he doesn’t anything normal like a pick or a sack like he gets no fucking slack for error. But it’s the nfl
@@SpecialAgentEBunny one fluke game doesn't change shit man, the trend with AOC is he only beats bad teams with back-up QB's His stats are terrible, he's wildly inconsistent, he's basically a worse version of Carr we need better if we want to compete
Yes Oconnel made some not good throws but great throws , he deserves a Opportunity for this to be his team I’ve never actually seen him play bad or say to myself we need a new quarterback because of him specifically i think if we got more weapons around him with bowers I think we’ll be ok
Aidan needs to beat sd to have any chance of being looked at qb next season Sanders looks shaky when hes pressured. Bad pocket presense and isnt quick to scramble. Shocked how slow he looked.
@We beat the chiefs. The refs allowed a play that was dead to be active and that’s why we lost. No other reason. AOC out played Pat Mahomes. And you wanna tell me that he can’t beat hard teams. Pay attention.
Beating teams tanking didn't help 😆 😆 😂 they played there role to set themselves up for the draft. The Patriots took a beat down by the chargers all the sudden they #1 heismen winner Travis Hunter will be first pick.
Of course it was worth it!! These fools trhat want the team to tank have their heads up their A$$!!.. You always play to win..and I hope they win next week!! One high pick will not do much to correct whats wrong..Just Win Baby NOT Just Tank Baby!!
Can you believe all this talk about sheduer tom brady dion sanders mark davis all in love with each other and raiders had #1 pick and then fall out of the universe just to have a team like the giants and titans who have drafted 1st rd qbs and top qbs every 3 to 4 years and the raiders just talk about it, like jayden daniels cj strout, bryce young, penix ,sheduer, and cam and once again and i said this would happen i said it for the last year and i said last year this wont happen this year or next year or the following we will never know what its like to have a top qb but every other team does if you dont think for a sec that this is done on purpose your a fool now you know the raiders are just a waste of time just a fashion statement mediocre is our ceiling...and the reason the organization doesnt care is because the raiders dont have to win, the stadium sells out so 6-8 wins spread out threw the season is good enough, im done i cant do this anymore 48 years never in my life did i think the nfl and the raiders would be at mediocre and be happy with it after knowing we had the #1 pick and it took 20 years to get here tells you they dont care about qbs its obvious.
@raideralexofficial We will continue to be in QB purgatory and continue the trend of not being a playoff team but not bad enough to have a top 3 pick SMH
@@Phoguy24 AOC should have been our guy this year, would like to see him get one full year now and see what this guy has with a better team around him.
Players are paid to win!!!! Not lose!! If you want them to lose, you go and suit up and play the dam game!!!This is where the GM earns his money. Build the team with sound drafting!!
The college qbs in the draft this year arent worth tanking for. Plus the draft is always a crapshoot. Just win games. There are always good players in the draft to find late. The problem with the raiders is they get a nice core group of players then get rid of them because the owners too cheap. Mack cooper carr jacobs adams.
I believe Telesco brought in Minshew, paid him millions - to be the starting QB from the beginning. I'm not convinced at all (above) that those were AP decisions. When was that last time you saw a team go out and pick up a QB, make him the highest paid QB on the team to only play the cheap guy you already had?
I watched this game Aiden can't escape the rush or run for first downs. Aiden a good back up for next year and beyond we could trade him for a better draft pick. Telesco will fire AP at end of season for Vrabel which is a up grade. Too bad AP didn't tank these last 3 meaningless games. Next season we will tank with Vrabel get our top draft pick. We start Minshew again so we tank right away again if not Ridder. Ridder should be ready to start next season we can go 2 and 14 get the n#1 draft pick. Then once we get our top rookie QB we will make playoffs then hope for SB. All AP had to do was tank to get top rookie QB for Telesco. Telesco will get this roster better everything but a starting QB which will be too hard to get this draft. We got to develop Ridder to be our starter next season
Just roll with AOC, dude improved his game tremendously. He’s no longer a statue. And let’s be real, sanders is not so good that he will flip this franchise around. Idky everyone crying over not being able to draft sanders or ward. They just not franchise changing qbs
absolutely worth it
Salute thanks for the comment. I’m genuinely curious why you think this?
@@raideralexofficialcause they think AOC will be the starter they just don’t know raiders will still get a qb no matter what
As a Warriors, A's, & Raiders fan since the 80s. To BUILD a winning culture you have to start beating the teams you're supposed too. Losing is cancerous and I'm surprised we held it together this long. 2 We need a physical and violent defense to compete in our division. In year 3 with half the starters on IR this defense still looked decent. Fully healthy in year 4 of the scheme should be alot more physical and faster. 3 The Oline is starting to gel with a little consistency. Surprisingly they're ranked in the top 10. Year 2 of them playing as a unit should show progress, especially with JPJ and DJ Glaze going into year 2. Last is AP has had 5 QBs in 11/2 years. Idk a coach in history that has won in those circumstances. IMO AP should at least get a season or 2 with a Bonified certified QB1. I see too many young players developed under him from 20, 44, JPJ, DJ Glaze, 89, 96 I mean I can go on and on. I'm old school so I love seeing players taking on Coach AP Raider mentality of violent physical football on both sides of the ball. Our Oline displayed this today, imo, for the 1st time all year as a unit. I don't want some offensive minded finesse coach to come in and screw it up. Have to reset the defense because P.G. will be gone. Then instead of year 4. The defense will be going into year 1 of a new scheme. Naw, give AP a QB1, RB1 WR1 and let him cook. Rebuilding a winning culture takes 2 to 3 seasons at least. Ppl say Dan Campbell is more experienced. All I know is AP has a better 1st year than him, period. With the worst qb room in the NFL.
Different team now
@@raideralexofficialCuz we off more then a QB look what happened when we got an old running back just be productive. We need o line , RB and Wr winning these games shows us the young dogs we hv already growing !
Sanders was mediocre last night, I think his stock has fallen. I think we should take Jeanty, our running game has been terrible most of the season, he would turn our running game around, hence improving our offense. If our defense is healthy next year, we could have a much better team.
If you think raiders won’t get sanders you don’t know football
@itzmoney2390 He was mediocre in a big game, worst situation we trade up to get him. We can stay where we are at and still get him, such mediocrity with QB's this year. Jeanty would help us more, hoping he is our guy.
I'm with you on Jeanty I wanted a QB but I don't want to trade up in this draft class
Get the best player, beef up the OL mainly guards, stack the defense, hope the team can carry the QB
You're right Jeanty would be a great pick old school football. Also sign the guard from KC Tre Smith and Tee Higgins. These pickups and a healthy defense makes us a playoff team.
You play to win the game!! Just Win Baby !! Now lets gets 1more....RRRAAAIIIDEEERRRSSS
Middle of the road team we just keep costing our team good top draft prospects 😅
Yupp!
So you want men who are earning millions in professional sports to quit and not give it their best! Wow!
Nah I want our owner to step in and shut down AOC after he got hurt vs Tampa. With Ridder we don’t win these games
It's too late to win games now, where was all this winning earlier in the season?
This is a terrible draft to have the #1 pick in if you have to draft a qb
If you feel that way you can still trade back and now we got multiple first round picks down the road to play with that #1 pick is still really valuable
@ someone has to want to trade up for that to happen. Not sure anyone would do that this year. And if they did, it probably wouldn’t be the haul the Bears got a few years back
Fans are being fooled by AOC winning against bottom feeder teams with back-up QB's just like last year SMH
I feel like we screwed ourselves at QB, may as well get Jeanty, build up the OL, stack the defense as much as possible n hope the team carries the QB
Yupp this will get people believing he is a franchise QB
What makes u say that bro just picking ur brain. Just cause I feel AOC ain’t getting a fair shake. He’s only played a few games last year and a few games this year with 2 different OC coordinators. And hasn’t had a full season to be judge. I’m not saying he is a Franchise qb but he could be a qb1. So just asking ur full opinion. Cause I think this dude can sling the rock yeah he’s a statue but with time from a good O-line he can cook. I feel he’s on the hot seat as soon as he doesn’t anything normal like a pick or a sack like he gets no fucking slack for error. But it’s the nfl
23-35 340 yards and 2 td’s against the Chiefs at Arrowhead. Not exactly a bottom feeder team
@@SpecialAgentEBunny one fluke game doesn't change shit man, the trend with AOC is he only beats bad teams with back-up QB's
His stats are terrible, he's wildly inconsistent, he's basically a worse version of Carr we need better if we want to compete
No way we could of beat them four weeks ago
Idk Ridder is looking pretty bad
AP 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
just win baby
U gave the best take I've herd yet
Roll with AOC. build the line and run game around him
Yes Oconnel made some not good throws but great throws , he deserves a Opportunity for this to be his team I’ve never actually seen him play bad or say to myself we need a new quarterback because of him specifically i think if we got more weapons around him with bowers I think we’ll be ok
We should bring a rookie QB to put pressure on AOC we cannot put all our eggs in one basket with him
Almost a curse. This team is cursed. Hahaha
At this point I wouldn’t doubt it
Aidan needs to beat sd to have any chance of being looked at qb next season
Sanders looks shaky when hes pressured. Bad pocket presense and isnt quick to scramble. Shocked how slow he looked.
AOC for QB1 2025… That’s why…. 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
Brady not bout to let that happen
Wrong
He can only beat bad teams with back-up QB's he's not the answer
@We beat the chiefs. The refs allowed a play that was dead to be active and that’s why we lost. No other reason. AOC out played Pat Mahomes. And you wanna tell me that he can’t beat hard teams. Pay attention.
@ Your face is wrong
Just win baby!!!!
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Just win Baby 🏴☠️
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Just Win!
Beating teams tanking didn't help 😆 😆 😂 they played there role to set themselves up for the draft. The Patriots took a beat down by the chargers all the sudden they #1 heismen winner Travis Hunter will be first pick.
Brady bout to make that call to New England just watch
Yes it was
Of course it was worth it!! These fools trhat want the team to tank have their heads up their A$$!!.. You always play to win..and I hope they win next week!! One high pick will not do much to correct whats wrong..Just Win Baby NOT Just Tank Baby!!
AP didn't talk much after the game
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Can you believe all this talk about sheduer tom brady dion sanders mark davis all in love with each other and raiders had #1 pick and then fall out of the universe just to have a team like the giants and titans who have drafted 1st rd qbs and top qbs every 3 to 4 years and the raiders just talk about it, like jayden daniels cj strout, bryce young, penix ,sheduer, and cam and once again and i said this would happen i said it for the last year and i said last year this wont happen this year or next year or the following we will never know what its like to have a top qb but every other team does if you dont think for a sec that this is done on purpose your a fool now you know the raiders are just a waste of time just a fashion statement mediocre is our ceiling...and the reason the organization doesnt care is because the raiders dont have to win, the stadium sells out so 6-8 wins spread out threw the season is good enough, im done i cant do this anymore 48 years never in my life did i think the nfl and the raiders would be at mediocre and be happy with it after knowing we had the #1 pick and it took 20 years to get here tells you they dont care about qbs its obvious.
Victory for what fire AP look at record most wins against 2nd and 3rd string qbs REALLY
Just Won, Babies.
Raiders love winning meaningless games at the end of the season.Where was all this energy and winning earlier 🤦🏾♂️
@@biggie6181 exactly 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
@raideralexofficial We will continue to be in QB purgatory and continue the trend of not being a playoff team but not bad enough to have a top 3 pick SMH
We are 8
Yeah true I misspoke there I thought it was 9
Get used to aoc being our starting qb 2025 😂
You’re probably right tbh
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@@Phoguy24 AOC should have been our guy this year, would like to see him get one full year now and see what this guy has with a better team around him.
@bikinisforever4163 we will get see him for a full season next year and if he do bad we can draft a qb the following year.
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Players are paid to win!!!! Not lose!! If you want them to lose, you go and suit up and play the dam game!!!This is where the GM earns his money. Build the team with sound drafting!!
They get paid to play not to win. If that was the case they shouldn’t have got checks for 10 straight weeks
@@raideralexofficialExactly!
Just win baby and aoc
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The college qbs in the draft this year arent worth tanking for. Plus the draft is always a crapshoot. Just win games. There are always good players in the draft to find late. The problem with the raiders is they get a nice core group of players then get rid of them because the owners too cheap. Mack cooper carr jacobs adams.
AP needs to be fired for not starting AOC from the beginning. Sanders is a hype job, and lazy Ward is JRuss 2.0.
Yeah that looks bad on his resume not starting AOC
I believe Telesco brought in Minshew, paid him millions - to be the starting QB from the beginning. I'm not convinced at all (above) that those were AP decisions. When was that last time you saw a team go out and pick up a QB, make him the highest paid QB on the team to only play the cheap guy you already had?
There many very bad football teams this year.
Yupp smh
This should be that last game the Raiders win. If the Raiders beat the Chargers its cause the Chargers sit their players.
I watched this game Aiden can't escape the rush or run for first downs. Aiden a good back up for next year and beyond we could trade him for a better draft pick. Telesco will fire AP at end of season for Vrabel which is a up grade. Too bad AP didn't tank these last 3 meaningless games. Next season we will tank with Vrabel get our top draft pick. We start Minshew again so we tank right away again if not Ridder. Ridder should be ready to start next season we can go 2 and 14 get the n#1 draft pick. Then once we get our top rookie QB we will make playoffs then hope for SB. All AP had to do was tank to get top rookie QB for Telesco. Telesco will get this roster better everything but a starting QB which will be too hard to get this draft. We got to develop Ridder to be our starter next season
Draft oline and rb and a creative oc and we be good
They drafting a qb
Yeah those would all be good starts for this team but we still need QB imo
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