@@KonCity22 Hi, It's usually a two tool process. You can use the Jack and then a standard tamper. I'd prefer a tool more like the Jack with an outer edge lip to keep the tamp flat. I only use The Jack with no additional tamping. I do have a demo tamper with the outer edge and adjustable depth. Unfortunately it's not a product we carry.
I finally upgraded my shower screen to the one recommended here. It made a ridiculous, obvious, huge difference. Given one can see such a big difference in the water pattern I guess that makes some sense. My biggest point though is that this channel is just loaded with brilliant and interesting advice. If it wasn't a 21 hour flight from my home town it would be my regular coffee shop.
Hey Tony, Thanks for the kind comment - we do our best! Did this video a couple of years ago but was just hanging out with Sauro at the Specialty Coffee Expo in Boston. While there used the new Ceado E37Z Barista grinder. It's a hoppered 83mm flat burr grinder with zero retention. After grinding, it back spins the burrs so one gets a perfectly fresh dose every time! A first for a hoppered grinder. Very cool! Marc Marc
Excellent video Marc. Recently upgraded to a Baristapro 18g Nanotech Precision Basket and Jack Leveler. I'm still a fan of tamping though, but my Espro calibrated tamper isn't a great fit with the precision basket - just a little bit of play around the perimeter of the tamper. Is there a tamper with a better fit? I'm guessing it needs to be 58.4mm instead of 58mm? Cheers!
Hey Chuck, it was 20g used for the double - honestly in triple territory. And, this was the basket used: www.wholelattelove.com/products/baristapro-20g-nanotech-precision-portafilter-basket Thanks for sharing the Jack love. it really does wonders for consistency shot to shot! Marc
On lever vibration pump machines with water tank could you create a pre infusion by operating for a few seconds then run the machine for the full shot time. Would make an interesting video to see if the shot is improved and / or helps with channeling on a naked portafilter. Great videos keep up the good work.
Hi Cl, Thanks for the comment (we will) and question. A couple comments... You could briefly operate the pump to get some extra water flowing to pre-wet the coffee. You can also raise the lever to just before the pump kicks on and with E61 groups you will get some water dropping before the pump comes on. In vibration pump machines pressure ramps up more slowly than in rotary pump machines. So when starting a shot you get some low pressure wetting prior to full brew pressure - it's a quality some find desirable on vib pump machines. We especially like this on Expobar machines with vib pumps and E61 group. Expobar E61s have an extra pre-infusion chamber milled into the group behind the shower screen so you get even more water falling onto the coffee and a slower ramp of initial brew pressure with the extra space. Thanks for the video idea - I may test that out. I'm guessing there will be little difference between running the pump briefly and just raising the lever a bit and pausing for a second or two before raising the lever to pump on position. We have a video explaining the difference between pre-wetting and pre-infusion with E61 groups. There are some machines with E61 groups which when plumbed in can do a line pressure pre-infusion. Here's the video: th-cam.com/video/2DPcZD48TxM/w-d-xo.html Marc
What type of gasket am I looking for. E61 profitec. Want to get to the 6 o’clock on a new machine. Also, recommend a shower head or the stock is good? Also same wuqrions with the baskets. Nano etc worth replacing ecm stock?
Hi fg, Here's a silicone gasket for E61: www.wholelattelove.com/products/caffewerks-silicone-group-gasket-73-x-57-x-8-5mm The stock shower screen is okay. But, I do like these as they are much smoother so coffee particles don't get caught up in an actual screen material. They also provide a little better distribution of water onto the coffee puck: www.wholelattelove.com/products/ims-nanotech-e61-shower-screen For baskets, stock is okay but you'll have more flexibility with dose sizes with aftermarket precision baskets. Stock basket ranges up to ~17-18g. If you like larger doses you can go up to 22g. Precision baskets usually have a higher natural flow rate meaning you'll grind a hair finer and maybe get a little more out of a coffee. Also, nanotech stays cleaner: www.wholelattelove.com/products/baristapro-22g-nanotech-precision-portafilter-basket Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage thanks Marc. Also. Is there a reason my genuine profitec naked portafilter is a bit too shallow with the basket it comes with? When you tamp at any angle the basket pops up slightly…
Do you think ECM may eventually buy Sauro Dall'Aglio components and put them into their espresso machines and portafilters??? Looks like he has a huge business venture to the wonderful world of Espresso.
Hi JPM, Yes you can with both. It's best to treat nanotech treated items as you would a non-stick pan. Aggressive scrubbing with rough materials will shorten the life of the nanotech treatment.
@@Wholelattelovepage do you recommend just backflushing the machine with water? If I use powder when backflushing, it might destroy the ims shower screen' nanotech
I took your advice and added the IMS shower screen to my simonelli musica. It really made a difference! These should be made compulsory on all espresso machines. Thanks!
Hi NK, Well, grind size is never set and forget so when something changes like coffee used, coffee ages, coffee dose changes, etc, grind size may need adjustment if you want best result. Marc
Thanks for sharing this video! When thinking of IMS gaskets, my impression was always that they are more suitable for lighter roasts than darker roasts. For darker roasts, the improved layout of the holes as well as the coating will increase the flow just a little too much...
Hi Philipp, Thanks for the comment and sharing your opinion on the BaristaPro filter baskets. That has not been my experience when using darker roasts. In any case, it really ought to be the grind controlling flow for the most part. Marc
I have an EMC SYNCHRONIKA e61, could you please tell me the correct IMS shower screen and IMS 18grm Nano filter basket to fit my machine. Unfortunately I am in New Zealand and will have to purchase locally as freight is a killer;((
Hi Don, Here's the shower screen: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/pro-brewing/products/ims-nanotech-e61-shower-screen and the Baristpro 18g NT filter basket: www.wholelattelove.com/products/baristapro-18g-nanotech-precision-portafilter-basket Marc
Hi Markus, Thanks for the question. Fairly easy on E61 groups. Just need to pick the old gasket out. It sits in a channel surrounding the shower screen. Freeing the gasket from the channel is the hardest part. After that a piece of cake. Helps to have a narrow pointy metal tool like a skinny straight blade screw driver or pick. With a screw driver push in between outer edge of gasket and channel and pry. With a pick, sink directly into the meat of the gasket and pull out. The longer the gasket has been in the harder it is to get out. Gaskets are wear items and should be replaced when worn. Indication of gasket wear are leaks when brewing or PF which clocks in beyond 6 o'clock. The shower screen may come out with the gasket. If not, it should pull off after the gasket is out. To put in new, place new gasket around shower screen and press both into the group. Use a blunt object to press the gasket into the channel in the group. Be sure all edges of gasket are within the channel and press in as much as possible. Then mount an empty portfilter and clock in to fully seat the new gasket. Whole process takes a few minutes. Marc
My gasket was a good bit older and had become quite hard and uncooperative. Initially I was only able to chip a couple of pieces off but once I could gain purchase on it, it came out easily. It took a bit longer because I didn't want to risk damaging the inner surface of the brew group but it was still done in minutes. Definitely easier if you remove the water basket and put on it's side but doable in the standing position with a bit of fiddling ;-)
Now I'm puzzled. Customers get charged thousands for their HX and DB machines stuffed with strong parts and fancy engineering and still get mediocre baskets and stiff group gasket? Well, mine had stock basket (surprisingly, just double as single were OK) with holes of uneven size and some holes almost blocked - which weren't case with my first machine, cheapo Delonghi with non-pressurized baskets. Yeah, I pinched holes with a needle and later purchased aftermarket baskets as they carried more coffee, I care less for holes as they are just holes. Cruel, cruel world of espresso equipment)
Hi, I hear you! I feel the same way when buying a car and it comes with mediocre dealer tires. Always felt the same way about the plastic tampers that come with just about every semi-auto machine sold. Some manufacturers like ECM and Rocket are including much nicer heavyweight tampers with their higher end machines now. Marc
Hi Stan, Thanks for the question. Please excuse my delayed response. Been on vaca and offline for a week. To avoid misunderstanding nano tech uses nano technolgy to apply a quartz coating to the filter baskets. This should not be confused with nano particles. I'm not a material scientist but think quartz is all but inert. IMO about has non-harmful as a piece of sand in your mouth. Hope that helps! Marc
Hey lk, Thanks for the question. Machine is the ECM Synchronika: www.wholelattelove.com/products/ecm-synchronika-dual-boiler-with-flow-control Grinder is the Ceado E37Z-Hero: www.wholelattelove.com/products/ceado-e37z-hero-coffee-grinder
Hi A, Thanks for the question. Most stock filter baskets leave room for improvement. I do like the precision hole pattern and lack of internal ridges or taper you get with BaristaPro filter baskets. Marc
Hi Marc, is there huge difference to get better taste in such IMS PF baskets than the stock one ? What about the crema, will it become much more than the stock basket ? Thanks!
Hi AA, Well, some stock baskets are better than others. Most are not that great. A quality basket like the BaristaPro is part of the system to better taste. Marc
Hi JC P, Thanks for the question. All Baristapro filter baskets fit in the Gaggia Classic portafilter. All baskets with the exception of the 22g double fit in the Silvia portafilter. If upgrading filter baskets you might consider a bottomless portafilter: www.wholelattelove.com/parts-and-care/portafilters-and-filter-baskets Shower screens are for E61 groups so do not work on the Classic or Silvia. No Caffewerks gaskets for Classic or Silvia at this time. Marc
Marc, Is there a need to change out these items on a time basis? I have seen other videos that suggested an annual change of gasket and screen, is that a common bit of advice, or is that overkill? A follow up to that would be, if the regular shower screens wear in a year, how long will the nanotechnology in the various items be expected to work/be viable? And yes, another question!!! Lol😂 When Sauro pulled his shot he finished with turning down the pump and just letting the water pressure push the last of the pull, do you need to adjust the overall time to pull the shot to account for this change? I do think that the espresso tastes a bit brighter whilst using this technique😃
Hi Joseph, Thanks for the questions - and ask as many as you want! An annual change can work but it comes down to use level. Some indications you need to change a group gasket: 1. Portafilter over clocks. It should firmly set at 6 o'clock. If it clocks in beyond 6 it's time to change. 2. leaking around the gasket and top edge of portfilter. 3. Visible cracks in the gasket. For shower screens I don't think there's any need to change unless you see visible damage like the screen separating. The nanotech screens have a design that's different than most stock screens. The screen is integrated into the plate so the screen cannot separate. The nanotech treatment creates a surface coffee oils etc don't adhere to as well as stock materials. They are easy to clean. For cleaning groups and screens I like Ka-Klean: www.wholelattelove.com/ka-kleen-cleaner-for-espresso-machines It's easy to spray up into the group and then give a light scrub with a group brush. The nanotech treatment is a quartz finish process. It's robust. A good comparison might are non-stick pans. Take care of them like don't use metal utensils or scrub with steel wool and they last a long time. I love the technique of shutting the pump off while leaving the valve open to finish a shot with an E61 group. Helps avoid over-extraction in final stage and can yield a brighter flavor. Timing is a way of determining if an extraction is in the ballpark. Let flavor be your guide. I've been working with the Rocket R Nine One pressure profiling machine and very long low pressure pre-infusions the last few days. Not unusual to go >40 seconds when the first 15 seconds is at 2 bar pressure. Check out the naked extractions from the R Nine One in the first couple minutes of this video: th-cam.com/video/rhQVkxMEVA0/w-d-xo.html Marc
Hi Earl, Thanks for the question the tool is: The Jack. We are expecting delivery in about a week so you can purchase from: www.wholelattelove.com/ I love it! I've used other that do not have the easy to adjust blade depth like The Jack. Marc
@@andyg3254 Hi, Sorry for the delay. They will be available in blue, black and silver. We anticipate putting them live on the website on 11/20/18. Marc
Hey Marc, what's your opinion on distribution tools? IIRC Matt Perger was saying how distribution tools only address the upper portion of the of the coffee bed and the lower portion can remain largely unchanged by using one. Any insight into this? The Jack in the video does look really cool I gotta admit. Can't wait to see the full Hero review.
Hi Dylan, Thanks for the question. I've started working with distribution tools more and I'm becoming a believer. If nothing else they guarantee a level surface of coffee in the portafilter. Can't say that with traditional tampers. We've been tossing around the idea of fabricating a see thru filter basket. Not functional for making an espresso but would like to do some macro photography of what's happening with the coffee when using a distribution tool. I've never observed so many consistently near perfect bottomless extractions as I did when making the video with Sauro. Was it the Hero's grind, the Nanotech filter baskets and shower screen, the distribution tool? I'm guessing a combo of all 4. After making the video I did probably 10 more shots using traditional tampers and kept everything else the same. Had a few good ones but nowhere near the consistency as when using the leveler. We will have more on the Hero just waiting on a few revisions so we can show a final shipping version. Marc
I am using the standard supplied double filter basket that came with Rocket R58. I would like to replace it with the Nanotech double basket and the Rocket bottomless Portafilter. Which size Nanotech basket should I purchase? Is the shower screen for the E61 brew group standard size also? And what is the advantage of the colored gaskets? I have just replaced the brew group gasket recently because it was a few years old and was leaking. I am also interested in the Jack leveler/tamper. I have watched your video as well as others who level, and then bring on the old tamper and apply the 30# pressure tamping on top. You and your guest, Sauro indicate that tamping on top of Jack leveling is not necessary. Comments?
Hi Thomas, Thanks for the questions. This shower screen will fit the E61 group of your R58: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/pro-brewing/products/ims-nanotech-e61-shower-screen For the filter basket I believe the 20g fits: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/pro-brewing/products/baristapro-20g-nanotech-precision-portafilter-basket I'm not sure about the 22g. Usually I'd go check as I have them all in the office but I'm doing the work from home thing as required in NY now due to virus. The 18g fits for sure. If you only do doubles get the 18 or 20g. The colored gaskets are made of silicone so they are softer and last longer than stock gaskets. On The Jack... Since this video was made I've gone to leveling only. Some still tamp after that. I do not find I need to. It's fine to tamp after for those who want but I think it's just a thing that some can't let go of. Used properly, The Jack compresses the coffee to the point a dry puck can be knocked out in one piece after leveling and before brewing. More on using The Jack in this video if you have not watched already: th-cam.com/video/4Z5vTi643sc/w-d-xo.html I hope that helps! If you need additional assistance with particular upgrades to fit your R58 our support team is working from home and ready to help. Give them a call during EST business hours at 585-924-7170 Marc
Marc, I just received a bottomless portafilter with the 20 gm Baristapro basket for my Profitec Pro 500 machine and was wondering how much coffee I should use for best shots. The basket when filled with 20 gm of coffee, when tamped does not seem to be full enough (well below the guide line.)
Hi John, Sorry for the delayed response - I've been offline for the holidays. As far as I'm aware the Barista pro baskets do not have a guideline. I'm looking at the 20gm stamped D26661 and no guideline. If you had far to much space I suppose that is not great but a bigger problem is a basket which is to full to the point of leaving an impression of the shower screen in your puck. Definitely want space between the puck and shower screen. I'd be curious to know what weight you can put in before leaving an impression in the puck. How are your bottomless shots looking/tasting? Are your shots coming relatively evenly from all holes of filter basket at the beginning of the shot? If so then all is well. Marc
I think the problem was my cheap scale. Portafilter has to be placed in a certain spot to get the correct weight. So 20 gm of ground coffee now seems correct. What should be then be the ideal weight of the resulting espresso shot?
Hi Marc, Great video, and great videos in general. I have a Profitec Pro 600. Sorry if this repeats what others have asked, but: - Do you have a view on VST vs IMS baskets? Re IMS, I am finding it a little confusing to navigate their range. They seem to have "competition" and "Baristapro". What's the difference? - I think you mentioned in a previous answer that the IMS basket that most closely matched the Profitec 500 stock basket (is it the same for the 600?) was the 18g. Is that right? Can I happily dose 16-18g in a 20g basket, or would you just go for the the 18? Phillip
Hi Phillip, Thank you for the kind comment and question. I like the IMS baskets. Sitting in front of me now I have an IMS BaristaPro 20g basket it's 26mm in height and an IMS Competitizione 20g that's 26.5mm in height. The Competitzione basket is what ships as the stock double basket on the Rocket R Nine One pressure profiling machine. Comparting the 2 visually. There are 702 individual holes in the Competizione basket vs 661 in the BaristaPro basket. Holes are slightly smaller and in a tighter pattern in the Competizione basket. The BaristaPro basket has no internal ridging or taper while the Competizione basket has 1 fill ridge and a taper at the bottom resulting in less surface area and that tighter hole pattern. I have not done side by side testing with the 2 baskets. Only real opinion I can give is a preference for basket without internal ridging and wider bottom as found in the IMS BaristaPro series. As to dosing... Overdosing is a bigger problem than under dosing. Your dose is to large if you are leaving impressions of your shower screen in the coffee puck. Always want space between the shower screen and puck surface. The 500 and 600 are both vibration pump machines. A little extra space between the shower and puck is not a big deal. Might actually help coffee pre-wet a little more before full brew pressure builds up. That said I'd be more comfortable using the 18g basket if always dosing closer to 16g and the 20g basket if always dosing closer to 18g. Hope that helps! Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks that's super helpful - and super-geeky! Do you reckon the 18g IMS is going to be closest to the stock double that comes with the 600? I'm guessing you didn't count the holes... One more question if I may - and just to say, I heavily relied on your videos and reviews in deciding to buy the 600. What bar do you find it works best at - is there much of a difference between 9 and 10? My machine came set at 10 but I understand most good coffee shops set theirs to around 9. Have it paired with the Atom 65.
Hi Philip, You are welcome! I do believe the 18g IMS will be closest to the stock basket. I did not count the holes :) There is a stamp on the side of the basket indicating number of holes and basket height. If you are seeing 10bar with the Backflush disc inserted that is what we recommend and how we prep our machines before delivery. It accounts for a for a 1bar loss associated with the vibration pump. Setting to 10 bar generally gets you a max of 9 bar at the group when brewing on a vibration pump machine. Marc
Unfortunately, my Lelit Anna is 57mm, so I think none of these upgrades are available to me. At least the basket is non-pressurized so I still manage to extract flavorful Espresso shots for the most part.
Hi Mark great vid as always. VST or Baristapro? (for a Mozzafiato) I want one for a double shot which type do I order...ridged, ridgeless etc.. 18 or 20 gr
Hi SB, Thanks for the question. I'd go with the 20g Baristapro Nanotech: www.wholelattelove.com/products/baristapro-20g-nanotech-precision-portafilter-basket It's what I use most often for doubles ranging from 17-19g in dose weight. Marc
Hi A, You are welcome. Proper IMS shower screen is usually based on make model of your machine. The "NT" screens indicate nanotech quartz coating which helps screen stay cleaner. Marc
@@a.b.5757 this is an IMS nanotech screen but the R in the code stands for reinforced. It’s the best one they make and should last longer under pressure.
Is there no tamping at all ? Im a happy user if IMS baskets and shower screen but I always do tamping. These baskets are 58.8mm , Torr tampers go sharp with them. I do not think that this distribution unit can do tamping ,especially with blades. Or am I mistaking ?? thanks guys ,great video again.
Hi m, Thank you for the question and comment. While you could tamp after leveling it is not required with "The Jack". The shots Sauro pulled in this video were not tamped after leveling/compressing with the Jack. The blade depth is quickly adjustable by turning the blade section. Marc
Whole Latte Love ,Hey Marc, thanks for reply, this is great technique , especialy for single one , as I always have problem with slow extraction there, but for the double , i personally think that without tamping you will not get all the oils from the puck extracted, just my visual opinion, as the crema is pretty light on the video but you are professionals guys so I am stopping arguing about it. Will definatelly try that with my Ethiopian dark roast . I got expobar brewtus 4 few years ago because of your videos:) Big thanks! Good luck, Greetings from Slovakia!
Hey m, If you can, get your hands on a Baristapro single basket. Much better design than stock single baskets and makes pulling singles much more consistent. It loses the ring and steep drop to bottom you find in most single baskets. I'll mention some are going with slightly finer grind and lighter tamps. The Jack leveler does compress the coffee. If you've been watching our videos you may already know the basic concept of the Brewtus was our idea - actually Todd's who appears with me in the video linked below. Todd's brother came up with the name Brewtus. And, just in case you missed it how would you like to meet the guy who likely built your machine? We were at the Crem factory in Gandia, Spain this summer and shot video of Havi hand building an Expobar Office Lever. Turns out he's built just about every Expobar domestic machine to come out of the factory: th-cam.com/video/yjyDu1D_Cj4E/w-d-xo.htmlnjoy, Marc
Whole Latte Love Yes, I got Ims single basket already long time :) and Of course i have watched your video from Crem factory! It was great to see how it was built, great video, i watch all of your videos, you are best coffee channel guys! So Todd’s brother made up the name? Wow, so you made great performance budget machine, I like Todd’s technical videos , it helped me with thermostat settings and other things on this machine. GREAT STUFF Guys!
I got a Gaggia Classic recently and a Sette 270 grinder. Would these baskets, screen and gasket make a notable difference in this entry level set-up? Which size basket would be recommended for double shots on my system?
Hi AP, The IMS shower screen will not fit on the Classic. It's designed for E61 brew groups. This gasket fits the Classic: www.wholelattelove.com/caffewerks-silicone-group-gasket-73-x-57-x-8-5mm I do like the BaristaPro nanotech filter baskets. the doubles come in sizes designed for 15, 18, 20, and 22g. All will fit in your Classic's portafilter. I'd choose one that's at least 1g more than your typical dose weight. For me that would be the 20g: www.wholelattelove.com/baristapro-20g-nanotech-precision-portafilter-basket Marc
Hi Marc - great video. I just added the Baristapro nanotech 20g basket, IMS nanotech shower screen & bottomless portafilter to my Gaggia Classic Pro. I noticed, with the same beans and grind size, the shot pulled in half the time (15 - 20 seconds) compared to the previous stock shower screen and stock portafilter & basket (30 seconds) that the Gaggia came with. Should I re-dial in my grind size to go finer and get my extraction back to about 25 - 30 seconds for a 18g grind for a 36g extraction? Or is this what I should expect with the improved shower screen & basket? FYI I start timing when the first drip hits the shot glass.
Just a quick question. Since people don't use Single shot baskets nowadays, and since in a drink like cappuccino only one shot of espresso is used, do you just throw away the other shot? Or is it possible to refrigerate the unused shot and use it for cold coffees?
Hi AA, Thanks for the question. It's possible to save the extra shot and use for other purposes. What you need is a friend to make a second cappa for. :) Marc
Hi Marc, just a quick question - I have the Gaggia Classic Pro - will this shower screen and gasket fit into my machine? Thanks so much in advance for your help. Also, I subscribed :D
Hi TP, Thanks for the question and the sub! Here are the shower screen and gasket which fit the Gaggia Classic Pro: Shower screen: www.wholelattelove.com/products/ims-nanotech-gaggia-classic-shower-screen Gasket: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/pro-brewing/products/caffewerks-silicone-group-gasket-73-x-57-x-8-5mm Hope that helps! Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage This is excellent thank you! So, can I use that shower screen with the default holder or should I buy an aftermarket brass or stainless holder to use with the screen instead?
Hi Thomas, Thanks for an EXCELLENT question! Sauro want's everyone to know you can go from double to single WITHOUT CHANGING THE GRIND SIZE by just using half the dose (+/_.05g). For baskets, if you get the 20g max for doubles go with the 10g max single basket etc. Marc
I have upgraded to the Baristapro basket, IMS shower screen and the group head gasket. I’m very happy with the change, but I’m still having problems with a watery malformed puck. I own the old style Profitec Pro 500, no PID, and have kept up with recommend maintenance schedules, in fact, I recently completed the group head maintenance/cleaning and lubrication outlined in your video. Still my pucks come out watery and malformed. Any suggestions on how to remedy this?
Hi Gary, Sorry for the delayed response. I thought I sent you a reply days ago - apparently it didn't take. Thanks for the feedback on your upgrades. As to your watery pucks... Are you getting a good exhaust from the E61 at the end of your extractions? A good spray into your drip tray when you lower the handle? If so that's a good indication that things are working properly and you shouldn't be getting soupy pucks. There could be something else going on. I advise giving our service techs a call at 585-924-7170 and they can help diagnose the issue. Marc
I cannot say that an upgrade with an IMS shower screen has worked. I changed the screen with a new brass 6 hole screen plate and it squirts water everywhere even after waiting 20min for the machine to heat up. I even tried the four hole stainless steel plate and it made no difference I opted to just stick with the original screen which worked the best and yes my pressure was reduced from 12 bar factory to 9 bar. These shower screens are a waste of money and you will plenty of other people say the same thing on other youtube videos about shower screen upgrades.
Hello - which size of the Baristapro nanotech filter basket should I buy, when the shots I pull are right at 17g? Initially thought the 18g basket, but am wondering if the 20g would be better to allow for some flexibility? Thanks!!
Hi A, Thanks for the question. If you ever see marks in your coffee puck from your shower screen with your current basket and it's a typical stock double then I would consider going to the 20g size. The shower screen should not contact your coffee puck. Need some space between puck and screen for proper wetting prior to full pressure build up. Here's a link to the 20g basket: www.wholelattelove.com/products/baristapro-20g-nanotech-precision-portafilter-basket Marc
Hey medic, Thanks for the question. Profitec portafilters can accommodate all the Baristpro double baskets including the 22g. To really appreciate the baskets I do recommend using a bottomless portafilter. Naked extractions are beautiful to watch and they help verify/improve distribution and tamping technique. If interested Profitec bottomless portafilter is available here: www.wholelattelove.com/profitec-bottomless-portafilter Marc
Hi K, It's The Jack Leveler. It is very easy and eliminates uneven distribution of coffee in a portafilter to reduce risk of channeling. I've used other similar devices and the Jack blows them away with the easy depth adjustment. Just turn the blade section to change depth. There click stops as you turn. With some others you have to remove the blade section and insert shims which is a PITA! If interested we should have in stock in about a week. Marc
@@liutang No doubt using a consistent tamp pressure is important and a calibrated tamper is a good way to get there. IMO even distribution and leveling may be more important than hitting a particular tamping pressure. Leveling devices like "The Jack" Sauro used in the video do compress/tamp the coffee as it's distributed and leveled. What's key when using a leveling device is having the depth set right. If the filter basket size or weight of coffee dose is changed then the depth of the leveling blades must be adjusted to properly compress the coffee. Marc
I have a ECM Techinka 4 profi. I was wondering with the number of baskets and gaskets (thickness) IMS proposes, which one I should use for single and for double shots? There are different thickness for gaskets as well for the same machine.
Hi m, Thanks for the question. Here's the Cafewerks gasket for E61 group: www.wholelattelove.com/products/caffewerks-silicone-group-gasket-73-x-57-x-8-5mm BaristaPro filter baskets for singles come in 8/10g, 10/12g. For doubles they come in 15g, 18g, 20g and 22g. You can find all those here: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/ims Hope that helps! Marc
Marc, I’m currently using the stock double-shot basket that came with my Profitec Pro 500; which size Baristapro basket is a match for the double-shot basket? Also, as far as the upgraded group gasket which size would match my machine? Thanks!
Hi Gary, Thanks for the question. Here's a link to the group gasket: www.wholelattelove.com/products/caffewerks-silicone-group-gasket-73-x-57-x-8-5mm The stock Pro 500 double is roughly equivalent to the BaristaPro 18g. Here's a link to the BaristaPro baskets: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/portafilters-and-filter-baskets You might consider going with a 20g. FYI all BaristaPro baskets will fit your Pro 500 PF. Marc
Hi, Yes I would. It gives you more flexibility but it depends on what you like. I personally dose 18-19g for doubles. When I dose at the high-end I sometimes get an impression of the shower screen in the coffee puck when using smaller capacity baskets. That's not a good thing as it can cause channeling. If you regularly dose under 16g then you might want to stick with the 18g basket. Marc
Marc, what beans are you guys using for great espresso? Only stuff I can easily lay my hands on here in Calgary, is Lavazza and although they show about a 2 year rack life, they're obviously NOT fresh... They normally hit the shelves in the Italian stores here about 2 months after being packaged.
Hi Adv 66, Thanks for the question. I use Lavazza all the time. Their Super Crema and Top Class are a couple of my favorites. Top Class with a slightly longer extraction is delicious in a latte! Their Caffe Espresso is a 100% Arabica medium roast which is a staff favorite here. As to freshness... while freshness is important with some of the in vogue single origin coffees I'd argue it's not nearly as critical with most Italian style bean blends like Lavazza. Properly stored in original packaging they are good for quite a long time. Marc
Is a 20g basket what you would recommend if I dose 18g? Or, should I use 18g basket? Also, would both the 18g and 20g baskets work on a spouted Profitec Pro portafilter? I'm not using a bottomless currently.
Hi M., Actual dose weight in filter basket depends to some extent on coffee being used. Lighter roasts are more dense so can hold more weight in same basket as compared to darker roasts. What you want to look for is impression of shower screen in puck after an extraction. If there is one the dose is too much for the basket being used. Need some space between shower screen and coffee. both 18 and 20g BaristaPro baskets will fit in standard Profitec PFs. 22g does not. Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage That's a good trick cause all I've read online was to do the "Dime" trick to see when you lock the portafilter if it stays on the surface or if it gets burried, which in the second case would mean the dose is too high. Anyway I've heard that with those precision basket you should ideally always stick within +-1g of the basket size and since I have a OCD, thanks to the Lunar scale... I always set my dose within 0.5g of the exact basket size just to make sure if something goes wrong that it isn't my fault ^^
Hi LTF, Thanks for the question. The Baristapro 15g basket (D22661) is 22mm in height and has 661 holes in the filter basket. Your IMS is 24.5mm in height and has 720 holes. So the Baristapro is a little smaller and has fewer (potentially lager) holes. Marc
Hello! I Am thinking of buying gaggia classic after your recommendation. When I search for it it gives me 2 options: 1) the old model which is around $330-350 and the newer 2015 version around $245-260. What’s the difference and which one would you recommend me as I want to get good into coffee and espresso making? Thank you !
Hi YA, I don't think we have any Gaggia Classic listed at $245-260 unless maybe it's a refurb. Here's the the one - and it's the only new model we have at the moment which I would recommend: www.wholelattelove.com/gaggia-classic-ss-brushed-stainless-steel-semi-automatic-espresso-machine
Hi Moritz, She is a beauty! It's a Ceado E37Z-Hero. We've been working on this grinder with Ceado. The Hero used in the video is our pre-production evaluation unit. Been working with Ceado on some final tweeks before it goes into production. The Hero is looking to be the finest coffee grinder ever made! Marc
I was deeply interested into it even if I already have a (Rocket Fausto) ... until I see the 5500$USD pricetag lol. I wonder if it is possible to convert any standard hopper grinder into a "single dose" to keep freshness as high as possible.
The price is out of my range. I am happier with conical for darker roasts too. But thats a discussion for itself. During that time i worked until now with a compak f10 from 2009 and there aro no regrets. The design and shape from ceado is untouchable and there is in my opinion no other beauty on the market. But this beauty is really too expensive for me. An affordable luxury what i am looking in the future and a good singledoser is the etzinger etzmax t light. Special and not for everybodys taste. I really regret the fact, but moey is what makes the world go round.
For some reason the "IMS Single 10g" does that very good look and is perfect, however the 18g I also have is a total pain in the ass, no matter what I try "Tamp, No Tamp, Finer or Coarser..." it never fully cover the whole bottom surface. It has a perfect color and taste good but it's very uneven and definitely not correct. I dunno if I might not have a defect... I noticed the holes aren't centered and are all a bit offset and there's "scratches" on the side of the 18g basket I have, but not on the 10g, 20g and 22g. I agree the IMS E61 shower is a lot better and sooo much cleaner. The nanotech definitely helps a lot. In fact even the non-nanotech from the "IMS Single 10g" is much easier to clean than the stock one from my Rocket R58 and his super easy to use unlike what people say. However the puck is always messy around the holes when you remove it, but it's not a big deal imo.
Hi P, Thanks for the comments. The shower screen is amazing! Not only in cleanliness but also beautiful flow/distribution of water over coffee puck. I doubt scratches have any impact on extraction. Sounds like you are doing bottomless extractions and not getting even development? Bunch of variables beyond the basket which can cause issues. Unless you have a really defective basket with super odd hole pattern I doubt the issue is the basket. Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage I bought an IMS shower screen based on seeing this video and although the difference in the part is clearly visible, the actual function in situ is not much different from the original. although a few drops come out from here and there, the vast majority is still focused in the centre, nothing like that I see in this video. You can't really do much wrong in fitting, the item is properly located and the new replacement gasket is snug and flush. (I have an ECM mechnika V Slim) Any thoughts on why this could be?
Hi. I got the old gaggia classic without the pipe to release the water from the puck after the extraction. I bought the baristapro nanotech 20g and I use it in a bottomless portafilter and a motta distributor. The extractions are even and the coffee tastes ok. 25sec 1:2 ratio. The thing is... after taking of the portafilter there's still a lot of water on top of the puck because there is a lot of headspace between the coffee and the gasket. The puck is also not even. It's higher on the sides and gets lower in the middle (zylinder). Is there a way to fix it?
Hi w, Thanks for the question. With no 3-way solenoid water on top or soupy pucks will happen. Are you under dosing the 20g basket. Extra headspace without the 3-way solenoid will retain more water. Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Hi Marc I bought the Gaggia Classic Pro after watching your videos. I have been using it for the past 2 weeks and still get soupy pucks. I'm using the original double shot basket and dosing at 14g (as i read that's the max??). Would you advice me to up the dosing to 18g? I tried once and I couldn't lock the portafilter to the 'head'.
Hi Marc. I thought I saw in one of your videos you showed how to install the gasket. Which end goes towards the machine (which end goes towards the portafilter)?
Hi Quan. Depends on the group type. For E61 groups with using the Yellow or Orange gasket I install the "rolled" edge up and flat edge down so it makes contact with the portafilter. Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks for always replying to my questions. My Gaggia Classic Pro and all the accessories from the video are being delivered today.
Hi Phillip, It's the yellow 8.5mm for most all E61 groups including the Pro 600's. www.wholelattelove.com/collections/group-gaskets/products/caffewerks-silicone-group-gasket-73-x-57-x-8-5mm Marc
Hi Alvin, Thanks for the question. Here's the proper gasket for the Synchronika: www.wholelattelove.com/products/caffewerks-silicone-group-gasket-73-x-57-x-8-5mm Marc
Hi Louis, Baskets fit in 58mm portafilters. Depending on machine manufacturer the 22 gram (largest double) filter basket may be too high for some portafilters. If you have a question regarding fit of filter basket for a particular manufacture's portafilter I'd be happy to check for you. To get the most out of the filter baskets I do suggest using a bottomless portafilter. I have yet to find a bottomless which does not accept all the Baristapro filter baskets. Marc
Hi Marc, I have the single shot espresso basket for my bottomless portafilter. Everytime i get uneven extraction even though i tried changing my dosage and grind. Is it possible that the bottomless portafilter basket requires a coarser grind than a normal portafilter. Thank You
Hi Rohit, Thanks for the question. Should be no difference in grind size using bottomless or spouted PF. Be aware single shot extractions are difficult to pull off well. They are less forgiving than doubles. Very few professional baristas pull singles. Marc
may I ask, what is different between the expobar office lever dual boiler coffee machine vs brewtus IV? and how much the energy will consume by these machines if they are on all the time?
Hi jun, Of course you can ask! The Office Lever is a heat-exchange boiler machine and not a dual boiler. The Office lever does not use a PID to control boiler temperature while the Brewtus does use PID to control temperature of the brew boiler. The Lever machine, like all HX boiler machines without PID does require a short cooling flush prior to brewing espresso. The Brewtus like most all dual boiler machines with PID does not require a cooling flush and provides more accurate brew temps. Actual energy usage varies depending on ambient conditions. We have run energy usage tests on dual boiler machines. Here's a video with more info on our testing methods and results: th-cam.com/video/_cgeNhsBDaw/w-d-xo.html Our test machine used 120watts/hour once it was up to temperature and sitting idle. We calculated energy cost at a rate of $0.12 Kwh. At that rate while sitting idle the energy cost was $0.014 per hour or 34 cents per day. I hope that helps. If you have any more questions let me know and I'd be happy to answer. Marc
Hello Marc, I bought the Bezzera (DE) model from you guys a couple of months back and wanted to upgrade the shower screen for the group head in the near future. So would those shower screens fit the BZ grouphead and there is also a screw in the middle of the shower screen, do I need to unscrew that before putting in the new screen????
@@Wholelattelovepage Hi Marc, has this changed since your comment? I saw shower screens with a screw in the middle on the IMS website! I have a Bezzera Bz02.
Estoy con canasta y ducha IMS para mi cafetera ECM v igual a la que muestran. Me da la impresión que el tamaño de las perforaciones del filtro es mayor. Me ha costado obtener una cola de ratón, obtengo un goteo por toda la canasta. No canalización. Estoy trabajando en ello.
Hey Mark. Probably a silly question, but after lowering the level and cutting the pump, do you just let it flow until getting the target yield? In other words, if I'm going for 18 in, 27 out, I'd still let the espresso drip out to 27 grams, right?
Hi sky, Not dumb at all! ims makes a huge range of filter baskets! I do not believe they are identical. ims puts the "precision" name on a number of their baskets. Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage no tamping? wow, I gotta check that out. Doing a level tamp seems to be my biggest problem, as in I CAN'T DO IT hahahahaha. My tamps are always off kilter. I always did wonder why there wasn't a mechanical solution to this.
@@mrbubetube There is a mechanical tamping device, usually used in high volume shops with mostly young and untrained staff (Looking at you Starbucks). If I had the coin, I'd buy one right off. Cheers!
@@Wholelattelovepage Marc, leveler does not replace a tamper, you of all people should know this as you've been around the espresso for over 25 years, just as I did. Leveler provides a uniform level on top of the pack, but does not tamp. Leveler should never be used for adding an extra force on top of the puck. Have also a look at Sasa Sestic's (inventor of OCD/NCD tool) videos on youtube. People listen to your advice and believe things are given as they hold you in high regard for all things espresso, so please be careful what info you disseminate, please. Thank you.
For the ECM Synchronika what portafilter do I need for those baskets? Maybe comment on Synchronika specifications for everything in the video. Christmas is coming. Thanks.
Hi Paul, Thanks for the question. The stock Synchronika portafilters work with all the Baristapro baskets! www.wholelattelove.com/parts-and-care/portafilters-and-filter-baskets?product_brand=1167 To truly appreciate the baskets and improve technique you can't beat pulling the shots in a naked/bottomless portafilter: www.wholelattelove.com/ecm-bottomless-portafilter The IMS E61 Nanotech shower screen fits on the Synchronika's group (we were pulling shots on a Synchronika in the video). www.wholelattelove.com/catalog/product/view/id/9384/s/baristapro-nanotech-e61-shower-screen/ For the Caffewerks Group Gasket you want this one: www.wholelattelove.com/caffewerks-silicone-group-gasket-73-x-57-x-8-5mm Some fine Christmas upgrades! Marc
Hi Ns, Thanks for the question. Breville products like the BDB 920 use proprietary parts in comparison to traditional Italian made espresso machines. It's best to use Breville parts. Marc
nekki hi, update... the yellow gasket does fit the Gaggia Classic. This one: www.wholelattelove.com/caffewerks-silicone-group-gasket-73-x-57-x-8-5mm Sorry for the confusion. Our techs just tested yesterday and info hadn’t reached me yet. Marc
Hi B, Utensil is a leveling/distribution tool. The have angled tapering protrusions and adjustable depth. Not sure what conical stuff you are referring to? Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Where can I order it? I like that, it looks like you're going to get a consistent tamp with it. Was he tamping after using that and you just cut it from the video?
@Wholelattelove, can you send me the link to the baristapro single gasket for a rocket mozzafiato model? I’m having trouble identifying which one was used in this video.
Hi GV, Sorry for the delayed response - I've been offline for a few days. Any of the Baristapro 58mm filter baskets will work in your Mozzafiato. Any of these will fit: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/portafilters-and-filter-baskets?_=pf&pf_v_brand=IMS Marc
Hi Ali, That's a good question. The double baskets are available without the Nanotech treatment. I'm not sure why the single baskets are not available with the Nanotech treatment. I've contacted Sauro with your question and will respond with his answer. Marc
Heard back from Sauro... He said the shape of the single basket doesn't allow a good consistency in Nanotech treatment application so they have decided not to produce it at this time. He advised they are doing more tests. Maybe we will see a single basket with Nanotech in the future. Marc
Hi LK, I'm with you! We are still working out final modifications/changes with Ceado before grinder goes into full production. Things like wood panels and finishing are likely to change as well as an upgrade to the worm gear quick release for easier major grind size changes. A little tease on the Hero... we continue testing and one cool thing we found was just how much grinding speed affects an extraction. Using same grind size and dose weight, grinding at lower RPM significantly increased extraction timing for a given volume. It was as much as a 30% increase at 600 vs. 1,200 RPM. Yet another variable to play with! Marc
@@alimaleki217 I hear you. We do not have final pricing yet... For sure not a grinder for everyone! Really intended for specialty shops, roasters and high-end espresso geeks with $$ to spare.
Hi Gavin, Machine in this video is the ECM Synchronika. It's a dual boiler plumbable machine with rotary pump, PID temp control and best in class steaming power: www.wholelattelove.com/ecm-synchronika-dual-boiler-espresso-machine It's our winner for Best Dual Boiler machine of 2018. See it in action here: th-cam.com/video/foaHFOXocgE/w-d-xo.html Marc
Hi Steve, Beans were fresh from local roaster Glen Edith. It's their Bean Cruiser blend: www.glenedithcoffee.com/collections/beans/products/bean-cruiser-breakfast-blend-1?variant=25051336966
Hi RC, Thanks for the question. Shower screen is for E61 groups. Filter baskets work in most commercial size 58mm portafilters I've run into a couple brands which don't have enough depth to handle the 22g double basket but do take the 20g double. Let me know machine make/model and I'll check basket fit. Caffewerks silicone group gaskets available for Yellow gasket: E61. Orange gasket: Expobar, Faema, Futurmat, Sanremo, Vibiemme. Blue gasket: Nuova Simonelli, Victoria Arduino, Cimbali. Red gasket: La Marzocco, Slayer, Mavam. Hope that helps! Marc
@Whole Latte Love What about us Gaggia Classic owners, you think the single 8g/10g will fit. I have both, original and open portafilter without spouts.
Hi s, Thanks for the question. I like the IMS NT shower screens a lot! Do this, run some brew water without your PF in place. Do you get a nice shower of water evenly distributing from your stock screen? If not, the IMS screen will improve water distribution. Beyond that, it stays a lot cleaner. Gasket replacement is not required with new shower screen. IMS Shower Screen for Silvia: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/ims/products/ims-nanotech-bezzera-rancilio-shower-screen Marc
Hi Luc, Sure it's the Ceado E37Z -Hero. About the finest grinder available. More info and video on the hero here: www.wholelattelove.com/products/ceado-e37z-hero-coffee-grinder Marc
Hi MS, Thanks for the questions. All 3 products work on the Pro 700. In the video we were using them on an ECM Synchronika. The ECM has the same group as the Pro 700. The Baristapro double filter baskets come in 18g, 20g and 22g sizes. I recommend the 20g as standard - be aware the 22g is a bit too tall to fit in the the stock Profitec portafilters. To use the 22g you have to use a bottomless PF: www.wholelattelove.com/profitec-bottomless-portafilter Marc
Hi team, thanks for all the amazing videos! Do the discussed upgrades here also fit the Bezzera Strega or which IMS parts would one need? Thanks for the reply!
Hi Johannes, You are welcome for the videos and thank you for the comment and question. Any of the 58mm BaristaPro filter baskets found here will fit: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/pro-brewing I'm checking with our tech staff on shower screen and group gasket and will report back. Marc
While I have you here and you also do have the Strega, I read that for the lever machine you'd generally add a bit more coffee, roughly around the 20 gr. mark. What's your take generally (obviously depending on the coffee, coarseness etc)
Just tested Strega for fit with shower screen and group gasket. These fit... Group Gasket: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/group-gaskets/products/caffewerks-silicone-group-gasket-73-x-57-x-8mm IMS Nanotech Shower Screen: www.wholelattelove.com/products/ims-nanotech-e61-shower-screen In my experience most people do tend to go with a slightly larger dose on lever machines. Maybe even 21g. We used to call those triples but according to SCA Barista Survey average does for a double is now 19g. Marc
Sauro pulled these shots pretty short at 18 seconds and with post infusion still finished at 22 seconds. Interested in your thoughts of 25/25 or 30/30 rule? Exttraction time vs weight end result is a critical factor in espresso flavour don't you think? I like the ideas being presented hear though, just questioning the extraction time.
Hi WR, Thanks for the comment/questions... Sauro worked with the coffee off camera for awhile prior to filming. Coffee we used was fresh from a local micro-roaster. The timing/volume (didn't weigh the shots in this vid) is what he liked for this coffee. 20-30 seconds and/or particular brew ratios are not so much rules but guidelines. A couple of cool things we did not focus on in the video: First, he pulled singles and doubles without changing grind size. Just changed the filter basket from double to single and halved the coffee dose and came out with half the volume with same timing. Second, (and not on camera at all) we worked with the grind speed of the Hero. Changing grind speed had dramatic effects on timing and flavor. We need to work with that more. It wasn't the point of the video, but using lower RPM increased shot timing while dose weight and grind size remained constant. Marc
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The Jack leveler/tamper seen in this video available here: www.wholelattelove.com/accessories/tampers?product_brand=1175
does it both tamper and level the grinds?
@@KonCity22 Hi, I use it for both. But, you will find those who level and then tamp as well.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Can you give me examples of those that do both? I talked with your staff and no one knew of any ones like the The Jack
@@KonCity22 Hi, It's usually a two tool process. You can use the Jack and then a standard tamper. I'd prefer a tool more like the Jack with an outer edge lip to keep the tamp flat. I only use The Jack with no additional tamping. I do have a demo tamper with the outer edge and adjustable depth. Unfortunately it's not a product we carry.
Whole Latte Love How can I buy that matchine?
I finally upgraded my shower screen to the one recommended here. It made a ridiculous, obvious, huge difference. Given one can see such a big difference in the water pattern I guess that makes some sense. My biggest point though is that this channel is just loaded with brilliant and interesting advice. If it wasn't a 21 hour flight from my home town it would be my regular coffee shop.
Hey Tony, Thanks for the kind comment - we do our best! Did this video a couple of years ago but was just hanging out with Sauro at the Specialty Coffee Expo in Boston. While there used the new Ceado E37Z Barista grinder. It's a hoppered 83mm flat burr grinder with zero retention. After grinding, it back spins the burrs so one gets a perfectly fresh dose every time! A first for a hoppered grinder. Very cool!
Marc
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Safe to flush/soak these Nanotech screens/baskets in Cafiza or similar? Would hate to lose the coating on these over time. Thanks!
And yes, it is really extremely important, that you position the portafilter with the handle showing to six p.m., never to six a.m.
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Look, I don't know about you, but even a single shot at six in the morning is a bit much for me. So yeah, 6 PM IS the only way to go here. 😅
Whole latte love is super cool. I’m a fan!
Hey Kornelia, Thanks a whole latte for the being a fan!
Marc
Excellent video Marc. Recently upgraded to a Baristapro 18g Nanotech Precision Basket and Jack Leveler. I'm still a fan of tamping though, but my Espro calibrated tamper isn't a great fit with the precision basket - just a little bit of play around the perimeter of the tamper. Is there a tamper with a better fit? I'm guessing it needs to be 58.4mm instead of 58mm? Cheers!
Great video, cheers from London England 👍😎🏴🇬🇧🙏
What size basket and how many grams of coffee did he use for the double? FYI, Love the Jack. It really makes a huge difference in my opinion.
Hey Chuck, it was 20g used for the double - honestly in triple territory. And, this was the basket used: www.wholelattelove.com/products/baristapro-20g-nanotech-precision-portafilter-basket
Thanks for sharing the Jack love. it really does wonders for consistency shot to shot!
Marc
On lever vibration pump machines with water tank could you create a pre infusion by operating for a few seconds then run the machine for the full shot time. Would make an interesting video to see if the shot is improved and / or helps with channeling on a naked portafilter. Great videos keep up the good work.
Hi Cl, Thanks for the comment (we will) and question. A couple comments... You could briefly operate the pump to get some extra water flowing to pre-wet the coffee. You can also raise the lever to just before the pump kicks on and with E61 groups you will get some water dropping before the pump comes on. In vibration pump machines pressure ramps up more slowly than in rotary pump machines. So when starting a shot you get some low pressure wetting prior to full brew pressure - it's a quality some find desirable on vib pump machines. We especially like this on Expobar machines with vib pumps and E61 group. Expobar E61s have an extra pre-infusion chamber milled into the group behind the shower screen so you get even more water falling onto the coffee and a slower ramp of initial brew pressure with the extra space. Thanks for the video idea - I may test that out. I'm guessing there will be little difference between running the pump briefly and just raising the lever a bit and pausing for a second or two before raising the lever to pump on position. We have a video explaining the difference between pre-wetting and pre-infusion with E61 groups. There are some machines with E61 groups which when plumbed in can do a line pressure pre-infusion. Here's the video: th-cam.com/video/2DPcZD48TxM/w-d-xo.html
Marc
What type of gasket am I looking for. E61 profitec. Want to get to the 6 o’clock on a new machine.
Also, recommend a shower head or the stock is good?
Also same wuqrions with the baskets. Nano etc worth replacing ecm stock?
Hi fg, Here's a silicone gasket for E61: www.wholelattelove.com/products/caffewerks-silicone-group-gasket-73-x-57-x-8-5mm
The stock shower screen is okay. But, I do like these as they are much smoother so coffee particles don't get caught up in an actual screen material. They also provide a little better distribution of water onto the coffee puck: www.wholelattelove.com/products/ims-nanotech-e61-shower-screen
For baskets, stock is okay but you'll have more flexibility with dose sizes with aftermarket precision baskets. Stock basket ranges up to ~17-18g. If you like larger doses you can go up to 22g. Precision baskets usually have a higher natural flow rate meaning you'll grind a hair finer and maybe get a little more out of a coffee. Also, nanotech stays cleaner: www.wholelattelove.com/products/baristapro-22g-nanotech-precision-portafilter-basket
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage thanks Marc.
Also. Is there a reason my genuine profitec naked portafilter is a bit too shallow with the basket it comes with? When you tamp at any angle the basket pops up slightly…
Do you think ECM may eventually buy Sauro Dall'Aglio components and put them into their espresso machines and portafilters??? Looks like he has a huge business venture to the wonderful world of Espresso.
Always a possibility!
Hi can I use cafiza to backflush my machine with the IMS shower screen installed? What about the barista pro basket? Thanks :)
Hi JPM, Yes you can with both. It's best to treat nanotech treated items as you would a non-stick pan. Aggressive scrubbing with rough materials will shorten the life of the nanotech treatment.
@@Wholelattelovepage do you recommend just backflushing the machine with water? If I use powder when backflushing, it might destroy the ims shower screen' nanotech
I took your advice and added the IMS shower screen to my simonelli musica. It really made a difference! These should be made compulsory on all espresso machines. Thanks!
Hi Matthew, Thanks for the comment sharing your experience. It really does!
Marc
Hey Mark! Wanted to know if these upgrades parts would fit profitec 400 pro? Would they? Since it uses e61 group head
Hey abdel, Yes they will. E61 upgrades are nearly universal.
Marc
do i always have to adjust the grinder everytime i want to use different filter baskets??
Hi NK, Well, grind size is never set and forget so when something changes like coffee used, coffee ages, coffee dose changes, etc, grind size may need adjustment if you want best result.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage alright thanks, for the quick answer!
Thanks for sharing this video! When thinking of IMS gaskets, my impression was always that they are more suitable for lighter roasts than darker roasts. For darker roasts, the improved layout of the holes as well as the coating will increase the flow just a little too much...
Hi Philipp, Thanks for the comment and sharing your opinion on the BaristaPro filter baskets. That has not been my experience when using darker roasts. In any case, it really ought to be the grind controlling flow for the most part.
Marc
Hey Marc, thanks for getting back that quickly. Totally agree, the basket is only second in its influence on the flow to the grind.
Cheers,
P
Hi, I have an elektra micro casa s1, which uses a 49/8 mm filter basket. Is there a shower screen for this?
I have an EMC SYNCHRONIKA e61, could you please tell me the correct IMS shower screen and IMS 18grm Nano filter basket to fit my machine. Unfortunately I am in New Zealand and will have to purchase locally as freight is a killer;((
Hi Don, Here's the shower screen: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/pro-brewing/products/ims-nanotech-e61-shower-screen
and the Baristpro 18g NT filter basket: www.wholelattelove.com/products/baristapro-18g-nanotech-precision-portafilter-basket
Marc
Hi Marc, how easy is it to replace a stock shower screen with a new including gasket? Do you have a video?
Hi Markus, Thanks for the question. Fairly easy on E61 groups. Just need to pick the old gasket out. It sits in a channel surrounding the shower screen. Freeing the gasket from the channel is the hardest part. After that a piece of cake. Helps to have a narrow pointy metal tool like a skinny straight blade screw driver or pick. With a screw driver push in between outer edge of gasket and channel and pry. With a pick, sink directly into the meat of the gasket and pull out. The longer the gasket has been in the harder it is to get out. Gaskets are wear items and should be replaced when worn. Indication of gasket wear are leaks when brewing or PF which clocks in beyond 6 o'clock. The shower screen may come out with the gasket. If not, it should pull off after the gasket is out. To put in new, place new gasket around shower screen and press both into the group. Use a blunt object to press the gasket into the channel in the group. Be sure all edges of gasket are within the channel and press in as much as possible. Then mount an empty portfilter and clock in to fully seat the new gasket. Whole process takes a few minutes.
Marc
My gasket was a good bit older and had become quite hard and uncooperative. Initially I was only able to chip a couple of pieces off but once I could gain purchase on it, it came out easily. It took a bit longer because I didn't want to risk damaging the inner surface of the brew group but it was still done in minutes. Definitely easier if you remove the water basket and put on it's side but doable in the standing position with a bit of fiddling ;-)
Now I'm puzzled. Customers get charged thousands for their HX and DB machines stuffed with strong parts and fancy engineering and still get mediocre baskets and stiff group gasket? Well, mine had stock basket (surprisingly, just double as single were OK) with holes of uneven size and some holes almost blocked - which weren't case with my first machine, cheapo Delonghi with non-pressurized baskets. Yeah, I pinched holes with a needle and later purchased aftermarket baskets as they carried more coffee, I care less for holes as they are just holes. Cruel, cruel world of espresso equipment)
Hi, I hear you! I feel the same way when buying a car and it comes with mediocre dealer tires. Always felt the same way about the plastic tampers that come with just about every semi-auto machine sold. Some manufacturers like ECM and Rocket are including much nicer heavyweight tampers with their higher end machines now.
Marc
Whole Latte Love Oh Breville, ECM, and Rocket are now giving good quality stainless steel tampers finally! It’s a small thing but it goes a long way.
hi marc, is there any information on how inert and safe the nanotech coating is? Are there any data that it does not make it into the coffee?
Hi Stan, Thanks for the question. Please excuse my delayed response. Been on vaca and offline for a week. To avoid misunderstanding nano tech uses nano technolgy to apply a quartz coating to the filter baskets. This should not be confused with nano particles. I'm not a material scientist but think quartz is all but inert. IMO about has non-harmful as a piece of sand in your mouth. Hope that helps!
Marc
Same concerns here, thanks for the answer!
What espresso machine and grinder were used in the video?
Hey lk, Thanks for the question. Machine is the ECM Synchronika: www.wholelattelove.com/products/ecm-synchronika-dual-boiler-with-flow-control
Grinder is the Ceado E37Z-Hero: www.wholelattelove.com/products/ceado-e37z-hero-coffee-grinder
I have the Rancilio Silvia, do you think upgrading the filter basket would still make a difference? Thanks!
Hi A, Thanks for the question. Most stock filter baskets leave room for improvement. I do like the precision hole pattern and lack of internal ridges or taper you get with BaristaPro filter baskets.
Marc
Hi Marc, is there huge difference to get better taste in such IMS PF baskets than the stock one ?
What about the crema, will it become much more than the stock basket ?
Thanks!
Hi AA, Well, some stock baskets are better than others. Most are not that great. A quality basket like the BaristaPro is part of the system to better taste.
Marc
Will the the baskets, gaskets, and screens work in entry level machines like Gaggia Classic or Rancilio Silvia?
Hi JC P, Thanks for the question. All Baristapro filter baskets fit in the Gaggia Classic portafilter. All baskets with the exception of the 22g double fit in the Silvia portafilter. If upgrading filter baskets you might consider a bottomless portafilter: www.wholelattelove.com/parts-and-care/portafilters-and-filter-baskets
Shower screens are for E61 groups so do not work on the Classic or Silvia. No Caffewerks gaskets for Classic or Silvia at this time.
Marc
Marc, Is there a need to change out these items on a time basis? I have seen other videos that suggested an annual change of gasket and screen, is that a common bit of advice, or is that overkill? A follow up to that would be, if the regular shower screens wear in a year, how long will the nanotechnology in the various items be expected to work/be viable? And yes, another question!!! Lol😂 When Sauro pulled his shot he finished with turning down the pump and just letting the water pressure push the last of the pull, do you need to adjust the overall time to pull the shot to account for this change? I do think that the espresso tastes a bit brighter whilst using this technique😃
Hi Joseph, Thanks for the questions - and ask as many as you want! An annual change can work but it comes down to use level. Some indications you need to change a group gasket: 1. Portafilter over clocks. It should firmly set at 6 o'clock. If it clocks in beyond 6 it's time to change. 2. leaking around the gasket and top edge of portfilter. 3. Visible cracks in the gasket. For shower screens I don't think there's any need to change unless you see visible damage like the screen separating. The nanotech screens have a design that's different than most stock screens. The screen is integrated into the plate so the screen cannot separate. The nanotech treatment creates a surface coffee oils etc don't adhere to as well as stock materials. They are easy to clean. For cleaning groups and screens I like Ka-Klean: www.wholelattelove.com/ka-kleen-cleaner-for-espresso-machines It's easy to spray up into the group and then give a light scrub with a group brush. The nanotech treatment is a quartz finish process. It's robust. A good comparison might are non-stick pans. Take care of them like don't use metal utensils or scrub with steel wool and they last a long time.
I love the technique of shutting the pump off while leaving the valve open to finish a shot with an E61 group. Helps avoid over-extraction in final stage and can yield a brighter flavor. Timing is a way of determining if an extraction is in the ballpark. Let flavor be your guide. I've been working with the Rocket R Nine One pressure profiling machine and very long low pressure pre-infusions the last few days. Not unusual to go >40 seconds when the first 15 seconds is at 2 bar pressure. Check out the naked extractions from the R Nine One in the first couple minutes of this video: th-cam.com/video/rhQVkxMEVA0/w-d-xo.html
Marc
Thanks a lot for such a comprehensive answer, Marc. That helps a lot even 2 years later!
Any idea what that tamping device is and where to purchase? Thanks
Hi Earl, Thanks for the question the tool is: The Jack.
We are expecting delivery in about a week so you can purchase from: www.wholelattelove.com/
I love it! I've used other that do not have the easy to adjust blade depth like The Jack.
Marc
Whole Latte Love Great, thanks
@@Wholelattelovepage I don't see The Jack on your website yet. Any idea when it will be available? Thx!
@@andyg3254 Hi, Sorry for the delay. They will be available in blue, black and silver. We anticipate putting them live on the website on 11/20/18.
Marc
Whole Latte Love still waiting?
Hi Mark, I bought the Baristapro 18g and for some reason I have been getting more channeling. Any idea why is that ?
Hey Marc, what's your opinion on distribution tools? IIRC Matt Perger was saying how distribution tools only address the upper portion of the of the coffee bed and the lower portion can remain largely unchanged by using one. Any insight into this? The Jack in the video does look really cool I gotta admit. Can't wait to see the full Hero review.
Hi Dylan, Thanks for the question. I've started working with distribution tools more and I'm becoming a believer. If nothing else they guarantee a level surface of coffee in the portafilter. Can't say that with traditional tampers. We've been tossing around the idea of fabricating a see thru filter basket. Not functional for making an espresso but would like to do some macro photography of what's happening with the coffee when using a distribution tool. I've never observed so many consistently near perfect bottomless extractions as I did when making the video with Sauro. Was it the Hero's grind, the Nanotech filter baskets and shower screen, the distribution tool? I'm guessing a combo of all 4. After making the video I did probably 10 more shots using traditional tampers and kept everything else the same. Had a few good ones but nowhere near the consistency as when using the leveler.
We will have more on the Hero just waiting on a few revisions so we can show a final shipping version.
Marc
I am using the standard supplied double filter basket that came with Rocket R58. I would like to replace it with the Nanotech double basket and the Rocket bottomless Portafilter. Which size Nanotech basket should I purchase? Is the shower screen for the E61 brew group standard size also? And what is the advantage of the colored gaskets? I have just replaced the brew group gasket recently because it was a few years old and was leaking. I am also interested in the Jack leveler/tamper. I have watched your video as well as others who level, and then bring on the old tamper and apply the 30# pressure tamping on top. You and your guest, Sauro indicate that tamping on top of Jack leveling is not necessary. Comments?
Hi Thomas, Thanks for the questions. This shower screen will fit the E61 group of your R58: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/pro-brewing/products/ims-nanotech-e61-shower-screen
For the filter basket I believe the 20g fits: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/pro-brewing/products/baristapro-20g-nanotech-precision-portafilter-basket I'm not sure about the 22g. Usually I'd go check as I have them all in the office but I'm doing the work from home thing as required in NY now due to virus. The 18g fits for sure. If you only do doubles get the 18 or 20g. The colored gaskets are made of silicone so they are softer and last longer than stock gaskets.
On The Jack... Since this video was made I've gone to leveling only. Some still tamp after that. I do not find I need to. It's fine to tamp after for those who want but I think it's just a thing that some can't let go of. Used properly, The Jack compresses the coffee to the point a dry puck can be knocked out in one piece after leveling and before brewing. More on using The Jack in this video if you have not watched already: th-cam.com/video/4Z5vTi643sc/w-d-xo.html
I hope that helps! If you need additional assistance with particular upgrades to fit your R58 our support team is working from home and ready to help. Give them a call during EST business hours at 585-924-7170
Marc
Marc, I just received a bottomless portafilter with the 20 gm Baristapro basket for my Profitec Pro 500 machine and was wondering how much coffee I should use for best shots. The basket when filled with 20 gm of coffee, when tamped does not seem to be full enough (well below the guide line.)
Hi John, Sorry for the delayed response - I've been offline for the holidays. As far as I'm aware the Barista pro baskets do not have a guideline. I'm looking at the 20gm stamped D26661 and no guideline. If you had far to much space I suppose that is not great but a bigger problem is a basket which is to full to the point of leaving an impression of the shower screen in your puck. Definitely want space between the puck and shower screen. I'd be curious to know what weight you can put in before leaving an impression in the puck. How are your bottomless shots looking/tasting? Are your shots coming relatively evenly from all holes of filter basket at the beginning of the shot? If so then all is well.
Marc
I think the problem was my cheap scale. Portafilter has to be placed in a certain spot to get the correct weight. So 20 gm of ground coffee now seems correct.
What should be then be the ideal weight of the resulting espresso shot?
Hi Marc,
Great video, and great videos in general. I have a Profitec Pro 600. Sorry if this repeats what others have asked, but:
- Do you have a view on VST vs IMS baskets? Re IMS, I am finding it a little confusing to navigate their range. They seem to have "competition" and "Baristapro". What's the difference?
- I think you mentioned in a previous answer that the IMS basket that most closely matched the Profitec 500 stock basket (is it the same for the 600?) was the 18g. Is that right? Can I happily dose 16-18g in a 20g basket, or would you just go for the the 18?
Phillip
Hi Phillip, Thank you for the kind comment and question. I like the IMS baskets. Sitting in front of me now I have an IMS BaristaPro 20g basket it's 26mm in height and an IMS Competitizione 20g that's 26.5mm in height. The Competitzione basket is what ships as the stock double basket on the Rocket R Nine One pressure profiling machine. Comparting the 2 visually. There are 702 individual holes in the Competizione basket vs 661 in the BaristaPro basket. Holes are slightly smaller and in a tighter pattern in the Competizione basket. The BaristaPro basket has no internal ridging or taper while the Competizione basket has 1 fill ridge and a taper at the bottom resulting in less surface area and that tighter hole pattern. I have not done side by side testing with the 2 baskets. Only real opinion I can give is a preference for basket without internal ridging and wider bottom as found in the IMS BaristaPro series.
As to dosing... Overdosing is a bigger problem than under dosing. Your dose is to large if you are leaving impressions of your shower screen in the coffee puck. Always want space between the shower screen and puck surface. The 500 and 600 are both vibration pump machines. A little extra space between the shower and puck is not a big deal. Might actually help coffee pre-wet a little more before full brew pressure builds up. That said I'd be more comfortable using the 18g basket if always dosing closer to 16g and the 20g basket if always dosing closer to 18g. Hope that helps!
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks that's super helpful - and super-geeky! Do you reckon the 18g IMS is going to be closest to the stock double that comes with the 600? I'm guessing you didn't count the holes...
One more question if I may - and just to say, I heavily relied on your videos and reviews in deciding to buy the 600. What bar do you find it works best at - is there much of a difference between 9 and 10? My machine came set at 10 but I understand most good coffee shops set theirs to around 9. Have it paired with the Atom 65.
Hi Philip, You are welcome! I do believe the 18g IMS will be closest to the stock basket. I did not count the holes :) There is a stamp on the side of the basket indicating number of holes and basket height. If you are seeing 10bar with the Backflush disc inserted that is what we recommend and how we prep our machines before delivery. It accounts for a for a 1bar loss associated with the vibration pump. Setting to 10 bar generally gets you a max of 9 bar at the group when brewing on a vibration pump machine.
Marc
Whole Latte Love Brilliant thanks.
Whole Latte Love ok one last question. How crazy / suboptimal is it to dose 16g in a 20g basket?
Which „The Single“ Basket does he use in the video and which double basket? 7/8,5 and 18g or 8/10g and 20g?
Hi FR, the 8/10 and 20g
Marc
Whole Latte Love , super thank you. I have the 18g and the 8/10g. Just ordered the 7/8,5g to see which combination works better together...
Unfortunately, my Lelit Anna is 57mm, so I think none of these upgrades are available to me. At least the basket is non-pressurized so I still manage to extract flavorful Espresso shots for the most part.
Hi GB, You may find some upgrades but more limited for 57mm
Hi Mark
great vid as always. VST or Baristapro? (for a Mozzafiato) I want one for a double shot which type do I order...ridged, ridgeless etc.. 18 or 20 gr
Hi SB, Thanks for the question. I'd go with the 20g Baristapro Nanotech: www.wholelattelove.com/products/baristapro-20g-nanotech-precision-portafilter-basket
It's what I use most often for doubles ranging from 17-19g in dose weight.
Marc
Hi Marc, thank you for this great video. IMS offers 4 shower screen, the most expensive is E&B E61 200 RNT. Would you recommend this shower screen?
Hi A, You are welcome. Proper IMS shower screen is usually based on make model of your machine. The "NT" screens indicate nanotech quartz coating which helps screen stay cleaner.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Marc, thank you for quick replay, but I asked about E&B Lab shower screen.
@@a.b.5757 this is an IMS nanotech screen but the R in the code stands for reinforced. It’s the best one they make and should last longer under pressure.
Is there no tamping at all ? Im a happy user if IMS baskets and shower screen but I always do tamping. These baskets are 58.8mm , Torr tampers go sharp with them. I do not think that this distribution unit can do tamping ,especially with blades. Or am I mistaking ?? thanks guys ,great video again.
Hi m, Thank you for the question and comment. While you could tamp after leveling it is not required with "The Jack". The shots Sauro pulled in this video were not tamped after leveling/compressing with the Jack. The blade depth is quickly adjustable by turning the blade section.
Marc
Whole Latte Love ,Hey Marc, thanks for reply, this is great technique , especialy for single one , as I always have problem with slow extraction there, but for the double , i personally think that without tamping you will not get all the oils from the puck extracted, just my visual opinion, as the crema is pretty light on the video but you are professionals guys so I am stopping arguing about it. Will definatelly try that with my Ethiopian dark roast . I got expobar brewtus 4 few years ago because of your videos:) Big thanks! Good luck, Greetings from Slovakia!
Hey m, If you can, get your hands on a Baristapro single basket. Much better design than stock single baskets and makes pulling singles much more consistent. It loses the ring and steep drop to bottom you find in most single baskets. I'll mention some are going with slightly finer grind and lighter tamps. The Jack leveler does compress the coffee.
If you've been watching our videos you may already know the basic concept of the Brewtus was our idea - actually Todd's who appears with me in the video linked below. Todd's brother came up with the name Brewtus. And, just in case you missed it how would you like to meet the guy who likely built your machine? We were at the Crem factory in Gandia, Spain this summer and shot video of Havi hand building an Expobar Office Lever. Turns out he's built just about every Expobar domestic machine to come out of the factory: th-cam.com/video/yjyDu1D_Cj4E/w-d-xo.htmlnjoy, Marc
Whole Latte Love Yes, I got Ims single basket already long time :) and Of course i have watched your video from Crem factory! It was great to see how it was built, great video, i watch all of your videos, you are best coffee channel guys! So Todd’s brother made up the name? Wow, so you made great performance budget machine, I like Todd’s technical videos , it helped me with thermostat settings and other things on this machine. GREAT STUFF Guys!
I got a Gaggia Classic recently and a Sette 270 grinder. Would these baskets, screen and gasket make a notable difference in this entry level set-up?
Which size basket would be recommended for double shots on my system?
Hi AP, The IMS shower screen will not fit on the Classic. It's designed for E61 brew groups. This gasket fits the Classic: www.wholelattelove.com/caffewerks-silicone-group-gasket-73-x-57-x-8-5mm I do like the BaristaPro nanotech filter baskets. the doubles come in sizes designed for 15, 18, 20, and 22g. All will fit in your Classic's portafilter. I'd choose one that's at least 1g more than your typical dose weight. For me that would be the 20g: www.wholelattelove.com/baristapro-20g-nanotech-precision-portafilter-basket
Marc
Hi Marc - great video. I just added the Baristapro nanotech 20g basket, IMS nanotech shower screen & bottomless portafilter to my Gaggia Classic Pro. I noticed, with the same beans and grind size, the shot pulled in half the time (15 - 20 seconds) compared to the previous stock shower screen and stock portafilter & basket (30 seconds) that the Gaggia came with. Should I re-dial in my grind size to go finer and get my extraction back to about 25 - 30 seconds for a 18g grind for a 36g extraction? Or is this what I should expect with the improved shower screen & basket? FYI I start timing when the first drip hits the shot glass.
Hi JE, Thanks for the comment. I would go finer. I doubt the entire change in timing is due to the upgrades. Grind size is never static.
Marc
Just a quick question. Since people don't use Single shot baskets nowadays, and since in a drink like cappuccino only one shot of espresso is used, do you just throw away the other shot? Or is it possible to refrigerate the unused shot and use it for cold coffees?
Hi AA, Thanks for the question. It's possible to save the extra shot and use for other purposes. What you need is a friend to make a second cappa for. :)
Marc
Hi Marc, just a quick question - I have the Gaggia Classic Pro - will this shower screen and gasket fit into my machine? Thanks so much in advance for your help. Also, I subscribed :D
Hi TP, Thanks for the question and the sub! Here are the shower screen and gasket which fit the Gaggia Classic Pro:
Shower screen: www.wholelattelove.com/products/ims-nanotech-gaggia-classic-shower-screen
Gasket: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/pro-brewing/products/caffewerks-silicone-group-gasket-73-x-57-x-8-5mm
Hope that helps!
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage This is excellent thank you! So, can I use that shower screen with the default holder or should I buy an aftermarket brass or stainless holder to use with the screen instead?
Which sizes of double and single baskets would fit together, so that you can pull double and single shots with the same grind setting?
Hi Thomas, Thanks for an EXCELLENT question! Sauro want's everyone to know you can go from double to single WITHOUT CHANGING THE GRIND SIZE by just using half the dose (+/_.05g). For baskets, if you get the 20g max for doubles go with the 10g max single basket etc.
Marc
Whole Latte Love , that means the 18g IMS BaristaPro goes well with the 7/8,5g or 8/10g IMS BaristaPro Single without grind setting?
What is that grinder they used?
Hi J, It's the Ceado E37Z-Hero: www.wholelattelove.com/products/ceado-e37z-hero-coffee-grinder
Marc
I have upgraded to the Baristapro basket, IMS shower screen and the group head gasket. I’m very happy with the change, but I’m still having problems with a watery malformed puck. I own the old style Profitec Pro 500, no PID, and have kept up with recommend maintenance schedules, in fact, I recently completed the group head maintenance/cleaning and lubrication outlined in your video. Still my pucks come out watery and malformed. Any suggestions on how to remedy this?
Hi Gary, Sorry for the delayed response. I thought I sent you a reply days ago - apparently it didn't take. Thanks for the feedback on your upgrades. As to your watery pucks... Are you getting a good exhaust from the E61 at the end of your extractions? A good spray into your drip tray when you lower the handle? If so that's a good indication that things are working properly and you shouldn't be getting soupy pucks. There could be something else going on. I advise giving our service techs a call at 585-924-7170 and they can help diagnose the issue.
Marc
I cannot say that an upgrade with an IMS shower screen has worked. I changed the screen with a new brass 6 hole screen plate and it squirts water everywhere even after waiting 20min for the machine to heat up. I even tried the four hole stainless steel plate and it made no difference I opted to just stick with the original screen which worked the best and yes my pressure was reduced from 12 bar factory to 9 bar. These shower screens are a waste of money and you will plenty of other people say the same thing on other youtube videos about shower screen upgrades.
I am using Breville 810 (54mm). Seems both IMS & VST didn't have option for this machine. What can I go for??
Hi Jason, Unfortunately not many options for 54mm precision baskets for Breville machines.
Marc
Hello - which size of the Baristapro nanotech filter basket should I buy, when the shots I pull are right at 17g? Initially thought the 18g basket, but am wondering if the 20g would be better to allow for some flexibility? Thanks!!
Hi A, Thanks for the question. If you ever see marks in your coffee puck from your shower screen with your current basket and it's a typical stock double then I would consider going to the 20g size. The shower screen should not contact your coffee puck. Need some space between puck and screen for proper wetting prior to full pressure build up. Here's a link to the 20g basket: www.wholelattelove.com/products/baristapro-20g-nanotech-precision-portafilter-basket
Marc
Hey Marc, do you need an open bottom porta filter or can this basket fit in a profitec portafilter? (Dual shot)
Hey medic, Thanks for the question. Profitec portafilters can accommodate all the Baristpro double baskets including the 22g. To really appreciate the baskets I do recommend using a bottomless portafilter. Naked extractions are beautiful to watch and they help verify/improve distribution and tamping technique. If interested Profitec bottomless portafilter is available here: www.wholelattelove.com/profitec-bottomless-portafilter
Marc
What brand is that distribution + tamper tool ?, looks so easy !!
Hi K, It's The Jack Leveler. It is very easy and eliminates uneven distribution of coffee in a portafilter to reduce risk of channeling. I've used other similar devices and the Jack blows them away with the easy depth adjustment. Just turn the blade section to change depth. There click stops as you turn. With some others you have to remove the blade section and insert shims which is a PITA! If interested we should have in stock in about a week.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage I see how these devices ensure level tamp, but how does it ensure proper tamp pressure? Currently using a calibrated tamper.
@@liutang No doubt using a consistent tamp pressure is important and a calibrated tamper is a good way to get there. IMO even distribution and leveling may be more important than hitting a particular tamping pressure. Leveling devices like "The Jack" Sauro used in the video do compress/tamp the coffee as it's distributed and leveled. What's key when using a leveling device is having the depth set right. If the filter basket size or weight of coffee dose is changed then the depth of the leveling blades must be adjusted to properly compress the coffee.
Marc
Whole Latte Love are these available yet? (Jack levellers) Delaying a purchase on a bunch of things as want to combine postage (international)
@@thesivraj Hi we do not have them yet - sorry!
I have a ECM Techinka 4 profi. I was wondering with the number of baskets and gaskets (thickness) IMS proposes, which one I should use for single and for double shots? There are different thickness for gaskets as well for the same machine.
Hi m, Thanks for the question. Here's the Cafewerks gasket for E61 group: www.wholelattelove.com/products/caffewerks-silicone-group-gasket-73-x-57-x-8-5mm
BaristaPro filter baskets for singles come in 8/10g, 10/12g. For doubles they come in 15g, 18g, 20g and 22g. You can find all those here: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/ims
Hope that helps!
Marc
Marc,
I’m currently using the stock double-shot basket that came with my Profitec Pro 500; which size Baristapro basket is a match for the double-shot basket?
Also, as far as the upgraded group gasket which size would match my machine?
Thanks!
Hi Gary, Thanks for the question. Here's a link to the group gasket: www.wholelattelove.com/products/caffewerks-silicone-group-gasket-73-x-57-x-8-5mm
The stock Pro 500 double is roughly equivalent to the BaristaPro 18g. Here's a link to the BaristaPro baskets: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/portafilters-and-filter-baskets
You might consider going with a 20g. FYI all BaristaPro baskets will fit your Pro 500 PF.
Marc
I noticed that the 18g basket is currently out of stock. If it was available would you still recommend going with the 20?
Hi, Yes I would. It gives you more flexibility but it depends on what you like. I personally dose 18-19g for doubles. When I dose at the high-end I sometimes get an impression of the shower screen in the coffee puck when using smaller capacity baskets. That's not a good thing as it can cause channeling. If you regularly dose under 16g then you might want to stick with the 18g basket.
Marc
Great..thanks Marc!
Marc, what beans are you guys using for great espresso? Only stuff I can easily lay my hands on here in Calgary, is Lavazza and although they show about a 2 year rack life, they're obviously NOT fresh... They normally hit the shelves in the Italian stores here about 2 months after being packaged.
Hi Adv 66, Thanks for the question. I use Lavazza all the time. Their Super Crema and Top Class are a couple of my favorites. Top Class with a slightly longer extraction is delicious in a latte! Their Caffe Espresso is a 100% Arabica medium roast which is a staff favorite here. As to freshness... while freshness is important with some of the in vogue single origin coffees I'd argue it's not nearly as critical with most Italian style bean blends like Lavazza. Properly stored in original packaging they are good for quite a long time.
Marc
Thanks a million for your kind help Marc. You guys ROCK!!! Regards, Robbie@@Wholelattelovepage
My pleasure!
Would you guys have precision sized tamper that matches this baskets as well???
Is a 20g basket what you would recommend if I dose 18g? Or, should I use 18g basket? Also, would both the 18g and 20g baskets work on a spouted Profitec Pro portafilter? I'm not using a bottomless currently.
Hi M., Actual dose weight in filter basket depends to some extent on coffee being used. Lighter roasts are more dense so can hold more weight in same basket as compared to darker roasts. What you want to look for is impression of shower screen in puck after an extraction. If there is one the dose is too much for the basket being used. Need some space between shower screen and coffee. both 18 and 20g BaristaPro baskets will fit in standard Profitec PFs. 22g does not.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage That's a good trick cause all I've read online was to do the "Dime" trick to see when you lock the portafilter if it stays on the surface or if it gets burried, which in the second case would mean the dose is too high. Anyway I've heard that with those precision basket you should ideally always stick within +-1g of the basket size and since I have a OCD, thanks to the Lunar scale... I always set my dose within 0.5g of the exact basket size just to make sure if something goes wrong that it isn't my fault ^^
Hi guys, any thoughts on the Puqpress?
I've had a IMS Competitive Precision Basket 12/18 gr - B70 2T H24.5 M.
In terms of size, is that equivalent to the Baristapro 15g?
Hi LTF, Thanks for the question. The Baristapro 15g basket (D22661) is 22mm in height and has 661 holes in the filter basket. Your IMS is 24.5mm in height and has 720 holes. So the Baristapro is a little smaller and has fewer (potentially lager) holes.
Marc
Hello!
I Am thinking of buying gaggia classic after your recommendation. When I search for it it gives me 2 options: 1) the old model which is around $330-350 and the newer 2015 version around $245-260.
What’s the difference and which one would you recommend me as I want to get good into coffee and espresso making?
Thank you !
Hi YA, I don't think we have any Gaggia Classic listed at $245-260 unless maybe it's a refurb. Here's the the one - and it's the only new model we have at the moment which I would recommend: www.wholelattelove.com/gaggia-classic-ss-brushed-stainless-steel-semi-automatic-espresso-machine
Wow what a well designed grinder!
what is the brand of this beautiful wooden thing?
Hi Moritz, She is a beauty! It's a Ceado E37Z-Hero. We've been working on this grinder with Ceado. The Hero used in the video is our pre-production evaluation unit. Been working with Ceado on some final tweeks before it goes into production. The Hero is looking to be the finest coffee grinder ever made!
Marc
I was deeply interested into it even if I already have a (Rocket Fausto) ... until I see the 5500$USD pricetag lol. I wonder if it is possible to convert any standard hopper grinder into a "single dose" to keep freshness as high as possible.
The price is out of my range. I am happier with conical for darker roasts too. But thats a discussion for itself. During that time i worked until now with a compak f10 from 2009 and there aro no regrets.
The design and shape from ceado is untouchable and there is in my opinion no other beauty on the market. But this beauty is really too expensive for me.
An affordable luxury what i am looking in the future and a good singledoser is the etzinger etzmax t light.
Special and not for everybodys taste.
I really regret the fact, but moey is what makes the world go round.
He didn't tamp after leveling on the single... Was it not required?
Hi AC, You can certainly tamp if preferred. With a capable and properly adjusted leveler it's often not required.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage I see, thank you for letting me know!
For some reason the "IMS Single 10g" does that very good look and is perfect, however the 18g I also have is a total pain in the ass, no matter what I try "Tamp, No Tamp, Finer or Coarser..." it never fully cover the whole bottom surface. It has a perfect color and taste good but it's very uneven and definitely not correct. I dunno if I might not have a defect... I noticed the holes aren't centered and are all a bit offset and there's "scratches" on the side of the 18g basket I have, but not on the 10g, 20g and 22g.
I agree the IMS E61 shower is a lot better and sooo much cleaner. The nanotech definitely helps a lot. In fact even the non-nanotech from the "IMS Single 10g" is much easier to clean than the stock one from my Rocket R58 and his super easy to use unlike what people say. However the puck is always messy around the holes when you remove it, but it's not a big deal imo.
Hi P, Thanks for the comments. The shower screen is amazing! Not only in cleanliness but also beautiful flow/distribution of water over coffee puck. I doubt scratches have any impact on extraction. Sounds like you are doing bottomless extractions and not getting even development? Bunch of variables beyond the basket which can cause issues. Unless you have a really defective basket with super odd hole pattern I doubt the issue is the basket.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage I bought an IMS shower screen based on seeing this video and although the difference in the part is clearly visible, the actual function in situ is not much different from the original. although a few drops come out from here and there, the vast majority is still focused in the centre, nothing like that I see in this video. You can't really do much wrong in fitting, the item is properly located and the new replacement gasket is snug and flush. (I have an ECM mechnika V Slim) Any thoughts on why this could be?
Hi. I got the old gaggia classic without the pipe to release the water from the puck after the extraction. I bought the baristapro nanotech 20g and I use it in a bottomless portafilter and a motta distributor. The extractions are even and the coffee tastes ok. 25sec 1:2 ratio. The thing is... after taking of the portafilter there's still a lot of water on top of the puck because there is a lot of headspace between the coffee and the gasket. The puck is also not even. It's higher on the sides and gets lower in the middle (zylinder). Is there a way to fix it?
Hi w, Thanks for the question. With no 3-way solenoid water on top or soupy pucks will happen. Are you under dosing the 20g basket. Extra headspace without the 3-way solenoid will retain more water.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Hi Marc I bought the Gaggia Classic Pro after watching your videos. I have been using it for the past 2 weeks and still get soupy pucks. I'm using the original double shot basket and dosing at 14g (as i read that's the max??). Would you advice me to up the dosing to 18g? I tried once and I couldn't lock the portafilter to the 'head'.
Hi Marc. I thought I saw in one of your videos you showed how to install the gasket. Which end goes towards the machine (which end goes towards the portafilter)?
Hi Quan. Depends on the group type. For E61 groups with using the Yellow or Orange gasket I install the "rolled" edge up and flat edge down so it makes contact with the portafilter.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks for always replying to my questions. My Gaggia Classic Pro and all the accessories from the video are being delivered today.
Hi Mark, would you recommend the 8mm gasket or the 8.5mm gasket for the profitec pro 600?
Hi Phillip, It's the yellow 8.5mm for most all E61 groups including the Pro 600's. www.wholelattelove.com/collections/group-gaskets/products/caffewerks-silicone-group-gasket-73-x-57-x-8-5mm
Marc
Hi Mark I have a millennium La Pavoni Europicula Professional with a 41mm filter básquet , do you sell the 3 upgrades for it???
Hi Francisco, Unfortunately we do not :(
Marc
Which Caffewerks group gasket will fit on an ECM Syncrhonika?
Hi Alvin, Thanks for the question. Here's the proper gasket for the Synchronika: www.wholelattelove.com/products/caffewerks-silicone-group-gasket-73-x-57-x-8-5mm
Marc
Maybe this was asked before but are the baskets universal or are they portafilter specific?
Hi Louis, Baskets fit in 58mm portafilters. Depending on machine manufacturer the 22 gram (largest double) filter basket may be too high for some portafilters. If you have a question regarding fit of filter basket for a particular manufacture's portafilter I'd be happy to check for you. To get the most out of the filter baskets I do suggest using a bottomless portafilter. I have yet to find a bottomless which does not accept all the Baristapro filter baskets.
Marc
Hi Marc, I have the single shot espresso basket for my bottomless portafilter. Everytime i get uneven extraction even though i tried changing my dosage and grind. Is it possible that the bottomless portafilter basket requires a coarser grind than a normal portafilter.
Thank You
Hi Rohit, Thanks for the question. Should be no difference in grind size using bottomless or spouted PF. Be aware single shot extractions are difficult to pull off well. They are less forgiving than doubles. Very few professional baristas pull singles.
Marc
Whole Latte Love thanks alot for the info.
may I ask, what is different between the expobar office lever dual boiler coffee machine vs brewtus IV? and how much the energy will consume by these machines if they are on all the time?
Hi jun, Of course you can ask! The Office Lever is a heat-exchange boiler machine and not a dual boiler. The Office lever does not use a PID to control boiler temperature while the Brewtus does use PID to control temperature of the brew boiler. The Lever machine, like all HX boiler machines without PID does require a short cooling flush prior to brewing espresso. The Brewtus like most all dual boiler machines with PID does not require a cooling flush and provides more accurate brew temps.
Actual energy usage varies depending on ambient conditions. We have run energy usage tests on dual boiler machines. Here's a video with more info on our testing methods and results: th-cam.com/video/_cgeNhsBDaw/w-d-xo.html Our test machine used 120watts/hour once it was up to temperature and sitting idle. We calculated energy cost at a rate of $0.12 Kwh. At that rate while sitting idle the energy cost was $0.014 per hour or 34 cents per day. I hope that helps. If you have any more questions let me know and I'd be happy to answer.
Marc
Where is that distributor from? :)
Hi there.
I believe you are referring to the Asso Coffee "The Jack" Leveler.
www.wholelattelove.com/collections/asso-coffee
Can these upgrades be incorporated to the breville Oracle?
Sorry they cannot.
Hello Marc, I bought the Bezzera (DE) model from you guys a couple of months back and wanted to upgrade the shower screen for the group head in the near future. So would those shower screens fit the BZ grouphead and there is also a screw in the middle of the shower screen, do I need to unscrew that before putting in the new screen????
Hi RP, Thanks for the question. The IMS Nanotech shower screen is designed for E61 groups so it's not going to work on the BZ group :(.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Hi Marc, has this changed since your comment? I saw shower screens with a screw in the middle on the IMS website! I have a Bezzera Bz02.
Estoy con canasta y ducha IMS para mi cafetera ECM v igual a la que muestran. Me da la impresión que el tamaño de las perforaciones del filtro es mayor. Me ha costado obtener una cola de ratón, obtengo un goteo por toda la canasta. No canalización. Estoy trabajando en ello.
Hey Mark. Probably a silly question, but after lowering the level and cutting the pump, do you just let it flow until getting the target yield? In other words, if I'm going for 18 in, 27 out, I'd still let the espresso drip out to 27 grams, right?
Hi James, Not a silly question at all. If being very precise then yes, cut the shot before reaching target weight and let it drip out.
Marc
Hey Marc, i know this may sound dumb but is the ims precision basket the same as baristapro nanotech..? Lol I'm a bit confused...
Hi sky, Not dumb at all! ims makes a huge range of filter baskets! I do not believe they are identical. ims puts the "precision" name on a number of their baskets.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage thanks marc =)
Can anybody tell me will any of these baskets fit on a sage oracle machine which is 58 mm...
Hi Marc, when you use the Jack leveler is it necessary or not tamp after use it?
Leonardo Caldas Hi, no tamping required!
@@Wholelattelovepage no tamping? wow, I gotta check that out. Doing a level tamp seems to be my biggest problem, as in I CAN'T DO IT hahahahaha. My tamps are always off kilter. I always did wonder why there wasn't a mechanical solution to this.
@@mrbubetube There is a mechanical tamping device, usually used in high volume shops with mostly young and untrained staff (Looking at you Starbucks). If I had the coin, I'd buy one right off. Cheers!
@@Wholelattelovepage Marc, leveler does not replace a tamper, you of all people should know this as you've been around the espresso for over 25 years, just as I did. Leveler provides a uniform level on top of the pack, but does not tamp. Leveler should never be used for adding an extra force on top of the puck. Have also a look at Sasa Sestic's (inventor of OCD/NCD tool) videos on youtube. People listen to your advice and believe things are given as they hold you in high regard for all things espresso, so please be careful what info you disseminate, please. Thank you.
For the ECM Synchronika what portafilter do I need for those baskets? Maybe comment on Synchronika specifications for everything in the video. Christmas is coming. Thanks.
Hi Paul, Thanks for the question. The stock Synchronika portafilters work with all the Baristapro baskets! www.wholelattelove.com/parts-and-care/portafilters-and-filter-baskets?product_brand=1167
To truly appreciate the baskets and improve technique you can't beat pulling the shots in a naked/bottomless portafilter: www.wholelattelove.com/ecm-bottomless-portafilter
The IMS E61 Nanotech shower screen fits on the Synchronika's group (we were pulling shots on a Synchronika in the video). www.wholelattelove.com/catalog/product/view/id/9384/s/baristapro-nanotech-e61-shower-screen/
For the Caffewerks Group Gasket you want this one: www.wholelattelove.com/caffewerks-silicone-group-gasket-73-x-57-x-8-5mm
Some fine Christmas upgrades!
Marc
Do you have it for the breville barista touch?
Hi david, Thanks for the question. Unfortunately we do not.
Marc
Will theses upgrades work on the Breville dual boiler 920?
Hi Ns, Thanks for the question. Breville products like the BDB 920 use proprietary parts in comparison to traditional Italian made espresso machines. It's best to use Breville parts.
Marc
please do you have these products for Breville barists touch ... Greetings from Croatia ..
Hi Mario, Thanks for the question. We do not have upgrades like this for the Barista touch. :(
Marc
Breville 54 mm basket is god or not?
Hello Team
Is there any basket that fits 51mm Portafilters?
Hi NN, We do not currently have BaristaPro baskets in 51mm :(.
Hello Marc,does any of those gaskets fits in gaggia classic ? thanks in advance
Hi nekki, Sorry they do not :(
Marc
nekki hi, update... the yellow gasket does fit the Gaggia Classic. This one: www.wholelattelove.com/caffewerks-silicone-group-gasket-73-x-57-x-8-5mm
Sorry for the confusion. Our techs just tested yesterday and info hadn’t reached me yet.
Marc
What was that colorful utensil that barista was using? Also the conical stuff?!
Hi B, Utensil is a leveling/distribution tool. The have angled tapering protrusions and adjustable depth. Not sure what conical stuff you are referring to?
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Where can I order it? I like that, it looks like you're going to get a consistent tamp with it. Was he tamping after using that and you just cut it from the video?
I think the "conical stuff" is just a little piece of device to help the grinds go into the portafilter rather than spilling elsewhere.
@Wholelattelove, can you send me the link to the baristapro single gasket for a rocket mozzafiato model? I’m having trouble identifying which one was used in this video.
Hi GV, Sorry for the delayed response - I've been offline for a few days. Any of the Baristapro 58mm filter baskets will work in your Mozzafiato. Any of these will fit: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/portafilters-and-filter-baskets?_=pf&pf_v_brand=IMS
Marc
Whole Latte Love ordered a couple! Thank you!
Gonçalo Veiga my pleasure!
It looks like only the 15g-22g baskets have Nanotech but not the 10g. Why?
Hi Ali, That's a good question. The double baskets are available without the Nanotech treatment. I'm not sure why the single baskets are not available with the Nanotech treatment. I've contacted Sauro with your question and will respond with his answer.
Marc
Heard back from Sauro... He said the shape of the single basket doesn't allow a good consistency in Nanotech treatment application so they have decided not to produce it at this time. He advised they are doing more tests.
Maybe we will see a single basket with Nanotech in the future.
Marc
Is the shower avaible for lelit p62?
Hi Robert, Thanks for the question. This is the shower for E61 groups: www.wholelattelove.com/products/ims-nanotech-e61-shower-screen
Marc
One more thing how can i find out abot THE JACK tamper the link is empty for me?
Hi, We have The Jack on order and should have in stock in a week or so. Will definitely be doing a review/how to video when they're in.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage cool cool
what size filter basket??
Standard commercial size is 58mm
Marc
totally reminds me of Eddie Money! hehe. love your vids man!! rock on
Hi Kim, Thanks for the comment! I am a classic rocker at heart and will continue to rock on!
Still waiting for the, ceado e37z hero, review impatiently
Hi LK, I'm with you! We are still working out final modifications/changes with Ceado before grinder goes into full production. Things like wood panels and finishing are likely to change as well as an upgrade to the worm gear quick release for easier major grind size changes. A little tease on the Hero... we continue testing and one cool thing we found was just how much grinding speed affects an extraction. Using same grind size and dose weight, grinding at lower RPM significantly increased extraction timing for a given volume. It was as much as a 30% increase at 600 vs. 1,200 RPM. Yet another variable to play with!
Marc
Looks great but I’m not paying $6k for a grinder!
@@alimaleki217 I hear you. We do not have final pricing yet... For sure not a grinder for everyone! Really intended for specialty shops, roasters and high-end espresso geeks with $$ to spare.
What espresso machine is this?
Hi Gavin, Machine in this video is the ECM Synchronika. It's a dual boiler plumbable machine with rotary pump, PID temp control and best in class steaming power: www.wholelattelove.com/ecm-synchronika-dual-boiler-espresso-machine
It's our winner for Best Dual Boiler machine of 2018. See it in action here: th-cam.com/video/foaHFOXocgE/w-d-xo.html
Marc
What kind of beans was he using for this? Serious crema!
Hi Steve, Beans were fresh from local roaster Glen Edith. It's their Bean Cruiser blend: www.glenedithcoffee.com/collections/beans/products/bean-cruiser-breakfast-blend-1?variant=25051336966
Only available for E61 group heads ?
I assume it's the standard 58mm.
Hi RC, Thanks for the question. Shower screen is for E61 groups. Filter baskets work in most commercial size 58mm portafilters I've run into a couple brands which don't have enough depth to handle the 22g double basket but do take the 20g double. Let me know machine make/model and I'll check basket fit. Caffewerks silicone group gaskets available for Yellow gasket: E61. Orange gasket: Expobar, Faema, Futurmat, Sanremo, Vibiemme. Blue gasket: Nuova Simonelli, Victoria Arduino, Cimbali. Red gasket: La Marzocco, Slayer, Mavam.
Hope that helps!
Marc
@Whole Latte Love What about us Gaggia Classic owners, you think the single 8g/10g will fit. I have both, original and open portafilter without spouts.
Hi, All Baristapro filter baskets fit in Gaggia Classic portafilters including spouted and bottomless/naked.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage , will the 22g fit the ECM double spout portafilter? Thanks
is it worth the upgrade for to a new shower screen for Silvia? also do i need new parts, gaskets to fit it as i'm currently using a 15g VST basket
Hi s, Thanks for the question. I like the IMS NT shower screens a lot! Do this, run some brew water without your PF in place. Do you get a nice shower of water evenly distributing from your stock screen? If not, the IMS screen will improve water distribution. Beyond that, it stays a lot cleaner. Gasket replacement is not required with new shower screen.
IMS Shower Screen for Silvia: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/ims/products/ims-nanotech-bezzera-rancilio-shower-screen
Marc
I like the grinder, can you introduce it?
Hi Luc, Sure it's the Ceado E37Z -Hero. About the finest grinder available. More info and video on the hero here: www.wholelattelove.com/products/ceado-e37z-hero-coffee-grinder
Marc
If I close my eyes I can hear Arnie telling me how to pull a good shot.
Hi Tony, Just curious who is Arnie?
Marc
Do all 3 products work with a profitec pro 700?
What is the recommended standard double shot basket? 18g or 20g?
Hi MS, Thanks for the questions. All 3 products work on the Pro 700. In the video we were using them on an ECM Synchronika. The ECM has the same group as the Pro 700. The Baristapro double filter baskets come in 18g, 20g and 22g sizes. I recommend the 20g as standard - be aware the 22g is a bit too tall to fit in the the stock Profitec portafilters. To use the 22g you have to use a bottomless PF: www.wholelattelove.com/profitec-bottomless-portafilter
Marc
no love for 54mm?
Hi team,
thanks for all the amazing videos!
Do the discussed upgrades here also fit the Bezzera Strega or which IMS parts would one need?
Thanks for the reply!
Hi Johannes, You are welcome for the videos and thank you for the comment and question. Any of the 58mm BaristaPro filter baskets found here will fit: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/pro-brewing
I'm checking with our tech staff on shower screen and group gasket and will report back.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Legend, thank you Marc!
While I have you here and you also do have the Strega, I read that for the lever machine you'd generally add a bit more coffee, roughly around the 20 gr. mark. What's your take generally (obviously depending on the coffee, coarseness etc)
Just tested Strega for fit with shower screen and group gasket. These fit...
Group Gasket: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/group-gaskets/products/caffewerks-silicone-group-gasket-73-x-57-x-8mm
IMS Nanotech Shower Screen: www.wholelattelove.com/products/ims-nanotech-e61-shower-screen
In my experience most people do tend to go with a slightly larger dose on lever machines. Maybe even 21g. We used to call those triples but according to SCA Barista Survey average does for a double is now 19g.
Marc
Sauro pulled these shots pretty short at 18 seconds and with post infusion still finished at 22 seconds. Interested in your thoughts of 25/25 or 30/30 rule? Exttraction time vs weight end result is a critical factor in espresso flavour don't you think? I like the ideas being presented hear though, just questioning the extraction time.
Hi WR, Thanks for the comment/questions... Sauro worked with the coffee off camera for awhile prior to filming. Coffee we used was fresh from a local micro-roaster. The timing/volume (didn't weigh the shots in this vid) is what he liked for this coffee. 20-30 seconds and/or particular brew ratios are not so much rules but guidelines. A couple of cool things we did not focus on in the video: First, he pulled singles and doubles without changing grind size. Just changed the filter basket from double to single and halved the coffee dose and came out with half the volume with same timing. Second, (and not on camera at all) we worked with the grind speed of the Hero. Changing grind speed had dramatic effects on timing and flavor. We need to work with that more. It wasn't the point of the video, but using lower RPM increased shot timing while dose weight and grind size remained constant.
Marc