"seems to be a regular occurrence in this house!" -New age server alarm. That supervisory on the garage panel and house panel really does come in handy.
Good day, first things first, Nice video….. Second, I’d like to thank you for these videos you make. You provide knowledge to people like me who have an idea what the wanna do but don’t have a back up…. Plus after your videos I gained a passion and interest in fire alarms… so thank you for that. Before I had no idea what a 270 SPO was, a MB10-24 A 439D, a temp 3 bells. Your videos educate so many about these systems, it’s quite interestin, I’ve had trauma with alarms and this has helped me get through it. 2022 a large fire occurred in my apartment building, the second scariest things were the fire bells. Years before when I was around 4-5, a guy pulled the fire alarm at 3am. Unfortunately for me, my grandparents were the management of the building and their smoke alarm sounded, plus they had to deal with everyone and me. There’s more they gave me trauma to, point is… your videos have given me a new passion, knowledge, and working through trauma and fear with the alarms. Anyway. Nice video…. Why is it that it keeps sounding every lil bit? All cuz of cooking correct?. Why does it keep sounding and getting set off from that?
I’m pretty sure it’s because the pre-alarm level on that smoke detector is set too high, so it often just skips the pre-alarm and goes straight into full alarm, like it did here. I’m no expert, though, so I could be completely wrong about this, but that’s my guess. Nic, if you see this, am I right here?
Good thing garage fire alarm was hooked up to house fire alarm when u were jn garage chilling garage panel set off supervisory but its good to have life safety system... like your video...
Very true, we call them "unwanted alarms", its done the job of detecting smoke and the cause is known so not a "false alarm" in the "unknown activation" sense. 👍
00:27 Nic: What a great day to relax. MS-9200UDLS: *SUPERVISORY PIEZO SOUNDS* Nic: A Supervisory? I wonder what it is. MS-9200UDLS: *FIRE ALARM IN HOUSE* Nic: Oh No! fire alarm in house! Hopefully our house is okay as I'll see what's going on in here.
We use notifier here. It in my opinion a lot comes down to the company servicing it no system is perfect and each one is going to cause problems at some point likely so get a brand that is serviced by a good company.
You should definitely do pre-alarm for that cooking area, it seems like your dogs dont like it :) EDIT: i'm british so by pre-alarm i mean an investigation delay, when an alarm gets setoff you get say 60 seconds to acknowledge and find out whats happening and clear it in which you can then reset, but if you dont reset after an additional 60 seconds the fire alarm system will go into full evac, but heres the good bit, if you dont ack within those first 60 seconds it will go into full evac to save you from getting trapped by spreading fire... might not be good for a home setting but just a suggestion
That would be pre-signal which is meant if there's trained staff to respond to it and quick access to acknowledge but in general slows down alarm response however pre-alarm does not slow down the alarm activation but will still give you a warning that the smoke levels are getting higher which is why I use pre alarm.
Idea: maybe you can try multi-criteria detectors that use combination smoke, heat, and co detection to make an alarm decision. Notifier makes the PTIR-951 multi-criteria detectors specifically for onyx series units.
If they are used in a matter that multiple sensors have to be activated then that would extremely delay an alarm response. Otherwise for demonstration purposes they are extremely expensive.
@@nics-systems-electric On the flip side though, this system does protect your house and multi criteria detectors actually will trip in a timely manner and can still be tested like a normal detector. It’s just a detector with different types of sensors working in tandem to give the panel more data to work with. The big thing with the multi criteria really is resistance to nuisance alarms and the ability to be able to detect a wider array of fire types accurately. They really work. I believe simplex may have been the first brand to use multi-criteria detectors.
@@achannelwithnopurpose1977 the problem is if you have a fire that is not producing enough heat if it's not in close enough proximity to the detector by the time it would set off it would be too late and the house is gone. In my opinion they often times defeat the purpose of having a smoke detector if it's not going to go off until the heat sensor is heated anyways.
@@nics-systems-electric but they don’t exactly require the heat sensor to be activated. They can still activate if one or two of the other sensors reach a certain threshold. It’s actually proven to be this way by the fact you can still use the same smoke check to activate it. All its really doing is using multiple sensor types to acquire more data to try and differentiate between nuisance alarms and real emergencies.
@@achannelwithnopurpose1977 that doesn't make any sense to me I don't see how that would not slow down an alarm response if it requires information from the heat sensor
here if you can hear a system like yours out side like yours can be the fire dept starts fining you after 3 false alarms in 6 months then its 500 bucks a false alarm but iam sure you will get your system fixed
@@apctech1 it only lasted for a few seconds, and you can't hear them in your own house. if they're fire alarms then i doubt it'd be a noise complaint, as they literally save lives
@@CGray1234 his system is a full on professional system it alerts him but not the fire dept to have that on a residential home would be costly for the monitoring trust me he is in Canada also iam from the us codes are very different for him and my self
What would that do? This wasn't a false alarm where smoke did not activate the detector. And this is not installed any where there are multiple detectors per room.
@@nics-systems-electric Verification is ineffective in false alarm scenarios regardless. But it gives extra time to fan a detector or clear a smoke condition before it sets off. This is why a lot of home security and FA systems have the detectors set to verification.
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"seems to be a regular occurrence in this house!" -New age server alarm. That supervisory on the garage panel and house panel really does come in handy.
Well, house panel AND chime strobe, since he’s got one of those too!
@@mbcommandnerd yep! I was aware of that too! Thank you!
Are your 365’s additionals you put in, or did you replace the house alarms with these?
Good day, first things first,
Nice video…..
Second, I’d like to thank you for these videos you make. You provide knowledge to people like me who have an idea what the wanna do but don’t have a back up…. Plus after your videos I gained a passion and interest in fire alarms… so thank you for that. Before I had no idea what a 270 SPO was, a MB10-24
A 439D, a temp 3 bells.
Your videos educate so many about these systems, it’s quite interestin,
I’ve had trauma with alarms and this has helped me get through it.
2022 a large fire occurred in my apartment building, the second scariest things were the fire bells.
Years before when I was around 4-5, a guy pulled the fire alarm at 3am.
Unfortunately for me, my grandparents were the management of the building and their smoke alarm sounded, plus they had to deal with everyone and me.
There’s more they gave me trauma to, point is… your videos have given me a new passion, knowledge, and working through trauma and fear with the alarms.
Anyway.
Nice video…. Why is it that it keeps sounding every lil bit? All cuz of cooking correct?.
Why does it keep sounding and getting set off from that?
I’m pretty sure it’s because the pre-alarm level on that smoke detector is set too high, so it often just skips the pre-alarm and goes straight into full alarm, like it did here. I’m no expert, though, so I could be completely wrong about this, but that’s my guess. Nic, if you see this, am I right here?
Hearing the SpectrAlert Advance and the system sensor low frequency sounder going off at the same time sounds so cool for some reason
The low frequency sounders are L-Series, which is NOT in the spectralert line of devices.
@@whgpjm oh ok thank you
They are l series not spectral alert advances
I agree
Good thing garage fire alarm was hooked up to house fire alarm when u were jn garage chilling garage panel set off supervisory but its good to have life safety system...
like your video...
It is hard to say this is a false alarm since there was smoke from cooking present..
Very true, we call them "unwanted alarms", its done the job of detecting smoke and the cause is known so not a "false alarm" in the "unknown activation" sense. 👍
yea its not really a false alarm, more like a nuisance alarm
a false true alarm or something
I’m a firefighter and when we run alarm activations we call them “ nuisance alarms” if there is no active fire
00:27
Nic: What a great day to relax.
MS-9200UDLS: *SUPERVISORY PIEZO SOUNDS*
Nic: A Supervisory? I wonder what it is.
MS-9200UDLS: *FIRE ALARM IN HOUSE*
Nic: Oh No! fire alarm in house! Hopefully our house is okay as I'll see what's going on in here.
Nic what was your first reaction when you heard the fire alarm panel start beeping and a supervisory what’s the garage system?
jackson hates the noise hayla is like i wonder when the alarms gonna turn off
What’s your most recommended system for a school now? I’m looking for anything but simplex
We use notifier here. It in my opinion a lot comes down to the company servicing it no system is perfect and each one is going to cause problems at some point likely so get a brand that is serviced by a good company.
Thanks! We don’t want to be tied to one company anymore
Hi, I'm sorry that the fire alarm went off again, look, I always watch your videos and they made me learn a lot of things about the fire alarm.
Is the vent fan ducted outside? If its just a recirculator its just metal mesh filters mostly for grease
Yes
Time to get pre-alarm notifications :P
And how would he do that? Like maybe add another rising link communicator and programming them with custom messages instead of "power off" messages?
The top vent fan for the stove should have been place on high blast
Can you modify sensitivity settings for smoke detectors on FireLite Systems or just Notifier?
Yes I haven't but I believe you can
Good video loved it
Was there food burning again????
i love low frequency sounders
Definitely need to make these detectors less sensitive now in VeriFire tools to prevent a regular occurrence like this
I think I'm going to leave them where they're at if it's at level eight
@@nics-systems-electricmy dogs are chill when my fire alarms go off
@@nics-systems-electricdon’t take down the smoke detectors that are in alarm because it will cause a dirty fault
@@nics-systems-electric which setting makes the smoke detector more sensitive a higher setting or lower?
I like fire alarm
You should definitely do pre-alarm for that cooking area, it seems like your dogs dont like it :)
EDIT: i'm british so by pre-alarm i mean an investigation delay, when an alarm gets setoff you get say 60 seconds to acknowledge and find out whats happening and clear it in which you can then reset, but if you dont reset after an additional 60 seconds the fire alarm system will go into full evac, but heres the good bit, if you dont ack within those first 60 seconds it will go into full evac to save you from getting trapped by spreading fire... might not be good for a home setting but just a suggestion
That would be pre-signal which is meant if there's trained staff to respond to it and quick access to acknowledge but in general slows down alarm response however pre-alarm does not slow down the alarm activation but will still give you a warning that the smoke levels are getting higher which is why I use pre alarm.
Idea: maybe you can try multi-criteria detectors that use combination smoke, heat, and co detection to make an alarm decision. Notifier makes the PTIR-951 multi-criteria detectors specifically for onyx series units.
If they are used in a matter that multiple sensors have to be activated then that would extremely delay an alarm response. Otherwise for demonstration purposes they are extremely expensive.
@@nics-systems-electric On the flip side though, this system does protect your house and multi criteria detectors actually will trip in a timely manner and can still be tested like a normal detector. It’s just a detector with different types of sensors working in tandem to give the panel more data to work with. The big thing with the multi criteria really is resistance to nuisance alarms and the ability to be able to detect a wider array of fire types accurately. They really work. I believe simplex may have been the first brand to use multi-criteria detectors.
@@achannelwithnopurpose1977 the problem is if you have a fire that is not producing enough heat if it's not in close enough proximity to the detector by the time it would set off it would be too late and the house is gone. In my opinion they often times defeat the purpose of having a smoke detector if it's not going to go off until the heat sensor is heated anyways.
@@nics-systems-electric but they don’t exactly require the heat sensor to be activated. They can still activate if one or two of the other sensors reach a certain threshold. It’s actually proven to be this way by the fact you can still use the same smoke check to activate it. All its really doing is using multiple sensor types to acquire more data to try and differentiate between nuisance alarms and real emergencies.
@@achannelwithnopurpose1977 that doesn't make any sense to me I don't see how that would not slow down an alarm response if it requires information from the heat sensor
why not install a annunciator inside the garage?
I would recommend you watch my video on it. Long story short it would be pointless
would be cool to have fire alarm activated mini smoke evacuation blower fan system kinda like that high school lol
I do really want the same system as you but I cant as I live in the uk without importing
Hello Nic! I like your videos
ah the old dinners ready bell
I like the sounds of fire alarm
here if you can hear a system like yours out side like yours can be the fire dept starts fining you after 3 false alarms in 6 months then its 500 bucks a false alarm but iam sure you will get your system fixed
he’s in canada. it does not need to be fixed.
His system isnt monitored by fire dept or anything so they cant really fine him
@@techadka local town can its under a statue called nuisance noise but iam sure they wont unless someone really complains
@@apctech1 it only lasted for a few seconds, and you can't hear them in your own house. if they're fire alarms then i doubt it'd be a noise complaint, as they literally save lives
@@CGray1234 his system is a full on professional system it alerts him but not the fire dept to have that on a residential home would be costly for the monitoring trust me he is in Canada also iam from the us codes are very different for him and my self
I got an Autocall ad on this lol
And fun fact: Autocall is also part of Simplex!
@@joeycaridi3030 Why did I not get Simplex ad then?
*I think I’m having a fire drill today at school.*
What do you mean school is finished? You mean summer school? 2:28
@@Buyer_Pro Schools in the UK don't break up till the end of July.
@@ElliottVeares Oh yes sorry I forgot
0:06 fire alarm goes off 0:16 NIC comes out of the garage building 1:26 fire alarm stops
Did the dog set it off????? 😂😂 1:51
What's pre alarm?
It's a set level below the actual alarm activation level both of which are changed in programming
What dose L2 smoke mean? Is there liek L1, L2, L3 etc? What dose it mean?
Level two
@@nics-systems-electric yeah but what dose it mean
@@NotFKC_RobloxGaming I just said that means it's on level two
Damnit nic didn’t you just have one 6 days ago?! Oh well, also, why was the Signal silence LED blinking when you didn’t hit silence?
Something that happened something to do with programming of the ACM when there is an alarm active the alarm silence light will flash
Kinda odd
@@nics-systems-electricit’s because of the chime strobe since it didn’t go off the signals silenced light flashed.
i like your videos
Wait you have a 2nd kitchen??
There is one upstairs and a smaller one downstairs
at 0:07 that what I hear in the background of fire alarm a dog barking or no?
BEEP BEEP BEEEEEEEEP. "COOKING DETECTED "
BEEP BEEP BEEEEEEEP
turn down the sensetifity on the dectors
Why do u have the fire lite connect to the house fire alarm system when u have it where ur house alarm notification goes off on ur phone lol
Because I'm not the only one that lives in the house nor would my phone wake me up at night.
0:05 prepare for fire drill!
I think you need a better steam extractor hood
it's all good
Hello l love your content
Hey Nic don’t tell me you mom is cooking again because you’re dog is in fear
Do you any smoke detector in the attic?
He only has 2 conventional heat detectors (Rate of rise) wired to a monitor module
I wouldnt collect fire alarms if my dog barked like that every. Single. Time.
You don't have to
@@nics-systems-electric I collect A/V stuff only.
@@nics-systems-electric everyone should have these fire alarms, but yeah.
He is lucky that he was in the garage when it happened
Sorry I was late I was at school
Oh no not again ha ha
0:06 Fire alarm goes off
Smoke detector pre-alarm sis smoke detector flash fast led
kewl
Again!?!
That was three times it got set off at your house
Is it a false alarm or not a false alarm
0:23 titanic
What again?
House fire alarm set off again
That's the whole point of supervisory and why he programed that in.
Just program verification lol
What would that do? This wasn't a false alarm where smoke did not activate the detector. And this is not installed any where there are multiple detectors per room.
@@nics-systems-electric Verification is ineffective in false alarm scenarios regardless. But it gives extra time to fan a detector or clear a smoke condition before it sets off. This is why a lot of home security and FA systems have the detectors set to verification.
0:28 False Fire Alarm at the home?
bark
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