My dad always said that 9/11 was the real start of the 2000s. He said that everyone was still high off the 90s, and then you have this tragic event that reshaped media going forward like you mentioned.
Weird you mention this and it felt like everyone went into 2020 riding the highs of the 2010s only for 3 months into it another tragic world event happened. Those first 3 months of 2020 didnt even feel real. They felt like an extension of 2019.
@crumbsdoe The real difference with the 90s and 2010s is the affordability of everything, including cars and houses. Now you can live at home till you're 35 and still not have half of your loans paid off, it's a sick joke that the general population just accepted one day.
@@fenixfelixx I would agree affordability is the biggest difference absolutely. The motive is and has always been ‘profit’ but atleast during the 90s and early 2010s it still felt like companies & brands cared about the persona their brand carried & wasnt all about profit. There was life in their advertisements, it felt more inclusive. Now it all feels the same, it feels like greed had ruined all of that.
@@PeachiiPawz Just remember the US is 3 months out from an election. You should be able to predict what might happen in the next 4 years based on who wins.
@@oliverowsnot exactly. i think they mean what impacts it had on various topics/industries. it’s something we don’t really consider or think about, i find it very interesting
@@aimforlifenowgerard way watched 9/11 happen irl and decided at that moment they needed to get a move on and start a band. twilight's author got its inspiration from my chemical romance. twilight then also inspired fifty shades of grey. without 9/11 none of these things would've happened. side note, my chem hated twilight and turned down doing music for the movies for... yo gabba gabba.
I was 9 in 2001 and obsessed with this Barbie line where the characters went to this international school in NYC. I remember that this line had a website where you could read the characters' aol groupchats and I LOVED it. After 9/11 I remember they implemented the events of that day into the characters' aol convos and diary entries where they tried to make sense of it as teenage girls and tbh I never realized it until now that you mentioned kids' media attempts to help children cope that I found a lot of comfort in that website at the time. I also just realized that the dolls were discountinued not long after that and now I wonder whether it was bc mattel was pushed by the government to drop a franchise centered around kids having fun in new york lmao. I wouldn't be surprised.
No, it was probably just too hard to maintain in a post 9/11 America (I won’t say world because it’s not the same outside, the effects are different everywhere).
as a middle eastern person who wasn’t even born when 9/11 happened it has done irreparable damage to the way we’re treated in the usa and the conditions our countries are stuck in . the war on terror era that followed 9/11 still influences the way ppl my age see me and feel abt my background. I’ve lost friends bc they decided i was scary simply for where im from (id been friends w them for years at that point) and ppl have told me the most heinous things they want to happen to ppl like me and the places we’re from. the discussion of how MENA is depicted post-9/11 would def be too big for the scope of this video but it’s always interesting to think abt how it completely changed perceptions of the region and its ppl
I realized this since I was a kid. I was born after 9/11 too, and the thing I’ve heard about middle eastern people since I was in kindergarten… was wild. Never liked how hateful a lot of American people were towards Middle Easterns.
I’m so sorry you went through that hate, 9/11 is a hard subject for most but my heart goes out to all the innocent people from the Middle East that had to face so many hate crimes, for so long no one thought to give them a second thought. You deserve to be around people who are open minded.
The Exorcist opened up with a “Allahu Ackbar”. It’s crazy thinking you can’t even cite one of most widespread prayers in the world without controversy these days
I'm just happy ppl finally educated themselves and some learned how these are mostly geopolitical acts of violence that's always masked and laced with religion or good vs evil. A tool thar is always used on Both Sides. There are many Muslims whose allegiance is completely to America but some ppl still fel that Islam in America is real thing and wholeheartedly take on and live n love Western Culture.
The weirdest instance of post-9/11 censorship I remember (I was in college when it happened) was when a local video store went through their DVDs for sale and put White-Out on every box of a romcom movie where you could just barely see the Twin Towers in the background. It not only made it more obvious, it also struck my one friend (whose father had been working nearby but survived) as disrespectful to pretend that the buildings never existed. It was such a strange time.
I went to see rush hour 2 in cinemas and outside the doors they had a not saying the movie could trigger 911 memories.. Due to the office explosion in the opening
Glad this popped up in my recommendations. I was a freshman in HS when 9/11 happened. I am an Arab American who was on academic scholarship at a Catholic high school. I remember waking up and seeing in real time the second tower being hit. I was kept home that day and the rest of the week by my parents. But yeah the cultural impact was huuuge. I grew up in a city that is incredibly liberal and being gay and not catholic at a Catholic high school didn't seem to bother my classmates but being Arab and Muslim (at the time), made high school a nightmare, so much so that I chose to leave the US for university. Long story short, I appreciate any videos that talk about the culture and society post-9/11. Instead of just the details of the day.
I'm so sorry. The way Muslims were treated in the aftermath is beyond shameful. It also brought out our incredible ignorance. There was a Sikh temple in our neighborhood, and members had to guard it 24/7 to prevent vandalism or worse.
It's still shit. It's the driving force for Europe's xenophobia even now. If 9/11 hadn't happened, I'm not sure who would be the scapegoat for all far right parties here. Maybe we wouldn't even have such a strong resurgence of right wing parties. Sure, the migrant increase in 2015 was a stress on the system but maybe it would've been seen less as an invasion if we didn't perceive Muslim people as "dangerous" @@alyzu4755
My white mom told me not to tell anyone I was half Palestinian after 9/11. She genuinely feared for my safety. Especially since an Indian man was murdered in my neighborhood because they thought he was Muslim. 😢
The fact that Donna Summer is technically a casualty of 9/11 because she was at her apartment on the day that it happened and it caused the cancer that killed her
A kid in my high school drowned in 1999, very popular rugby league player but just a really sweet kid. Nothing like the stereotypical American jock bully. Sometimes I still think about him. Like "that's it, that's all he got to have, 17 years and now he's gone". The tragedy still hurts and yeah, it's mind boggling that he never saw anything beyond the 90s.
I was 10 when 9/11 happened....old enough to know it was horrible, but not old enough to truly understand how it impacted everything outside of that day. Thank you for this incredibly niche and detailed topic!
I was 11 and completely agree. It’s like I completely understood it, but didn’t understand it at all. At 34 I feel like I’m rewatching/reliving it from the lens of an adult now and I’m so fascinated exploring every facet of it. How society changed, stories we hadn’t heard before, how music changed, what artists made music expressing what was going on? what were the towers like on the inside before it happened? who had photos/videos before it happened? how they’re still identifying the lives lost…how people still are working jobs to identify people? In a sense, I feel like we moved on so quickly from it?
I was 9, I feel like I had a pretty solid grasp on what was happening…I mean…for a 4th grader, but my dad was a marine and had been training overseas for 6 months prior. He was on a ship, on his way home from Singapore on 9/11. So, rather than him coming home, they just sent him straight to Baghdad… (I think…), and I don’t think I saw him until a full year after that. I distinctly remember my family saying, “…he was 4 days away from being back home, but they turned the boat around”… (I don’t know if this is true…or if it even makes sense, but in my mind they literally turned the boat around lol) Then he was back home for maybe 3 months, then sent back out to…maybe Kuwait?, & was supposed to be gone again for 6-12 months or so. What ended up bringing him home for good was a torn ACL that needed surgery, and he finally made it home like 3 weeks before my little brother was born. Just in time. And to any of my fellow millennials who were in elementary school on 9/11 and haven’t yet been down the rabbit hole that is all things 9/11…Godspeed and safe travels, friends…it’s a surprisingly deep rabbit hole. Even just here on TH-cam there are ENDLESS HOURS of info on all aspects of the tragedy…I’ve watched and listened to some pretty heartbreaking stuff. I was hyper fixated on watching home videos camera footage from different perspectives as the towers fell, and documentaries or interviews with people who made it out despite being inside as high up as the 84th floor or something crazy. When the plane hit the building. There are some incredible stories to be told and if you’ve never explored that corner of the internet, I’d suggest it.
I was 12 It’s hard to describe: you know what’s going on but your mind is gradually adjusting. At first you struggle to believe the whole thing as it’s happening, almost denial I suppose. I was in science class and the teacher put on a radio, a plane hit the side of the tower. My mind couldn’t totally comprehend it, even at some point when a kid announced that the second tower fell
I was almost 9. I remember this being talked about nonstop everywhere on tv and real life. Even though I didn’t know everything that happened and wasn’t mature enough to fully understand, i think all the news still subconsciously got to me as I had an odd nightmare where I looked outside my bedroom window and saw people screaming and the moon set on fire.
I was in my mid-30s and a journalist during 9/11 and one thing you couldn’t possibly know … because you wouldn’t find records of it … was how overt and direct the censorship post-9-11 was. The range of artistic reactions was far and away more diverse than what you’d find looking at what is preserved now as mainstream culture. Even country music had this wild range. The Chicks were not unique but they are the best known in part because of the Shut Up and Sing documentary. You’ll probably find a scene in that film talking about the congressional hearings about Clear Channel censoring artists by refusing to let their stations play certain songs or musicians. That phenomenon stretched way beyond The Chicks. One moment I particularly remembered because it was SO trivial was the removal of Babylon 5 reruns from the air. If you’ve seen it, it’s about what happens to a diplomatic space station when people are trying to manipulate the world into a massive war. I remember thinking gosh someone is afraid we’re going to see some kind of parallel to something in this 90s science fiction series. Journalists were under a lot of pressure to not question the Iraq war. The Washington Post eventually ran a comprehensive case against the war but only after weeks of front page pro war coverage and only after Bob Woodward threw a personal fit. It ran on page 26 and lay out everything we now know to be true but it was too late. The way that the trauma of the 9/11 was used to manipulate this country into that war is forgotten because again- censorship means there’s no records. There’s nothing to find. I was just rewatching season 4 of Angel and was surprised to see how much 9/11 and post 9/11 imagery is built into the apocalypse story there. It probably doesn’t come across now but there’s a rain of fire, people escaping a skyscraper, everyone being mesmerized by their televisions, not being able to trust the people next to you. It’s all there. If you haven’t seen “My Name is Khan” you should. The opening sequence is based on Shah Rukh Khan’s real experiences and his thoughts on what would happen if he wasn’t rich, fluent in English and a Bollywood star. The film is … well it’s very Bollywood and there is a random act of Barack Obama at the end. But it does trigger a lot of memories of an aspect of that era that a lot of people again never saw. Anyway thank you for looking at this era. Also if you get the chance to see Come From Away it’s worth it. But you have to think about it as a Sept 10 story not a Sept 11 story. A group of lucky people get to live in the world of Sept 10 for days after the attacks and they are lucky to do it.
Thank you for your perspective. I was in my 30s during that time as well, working in the marketing department for the Seattle Symphony, and I was deeply concerned about the censorship that was going on (especially with the Clear Channel memorandum).
Man you just unlocked a memory. I was 22 when 9/11 happened and had done an internship at a local radio station in the spring semester. Friend of mine was doing an internship at the same station -- a Clear Channel property -- that fall, and she said the change was instant and total. Not only were staff not allowed to criticize the government or the military (in a military town, of course), they were expected to support them vocally. It was ridiculous, and I'd repressed that memory until now!
@@ashextraordinaire It was kooky and traumatic so I totally understand! I often wish people now realized that just because it looks like everyone agreed with changes doesn’t mean we did.
You know what, you're totally right. I was 9 when 9/11 happened. I noticed that right around the 2000s culture started demanding realism in our movies, Batman is the perfect example. Look at the tone of the 90s batman films compared to Christopher Nolan's.
I was 21. from my point of view as an adult at the time;. if anything, escapism became more of a thing. marvel was up and coming and every other film that came out was some super hero film or an action movie with revenge and retribution as motive. Its not so much a need for realism. people wanted things to be more gritty. people wanted to see movies were the hero gets back at the villain after being hurt. chris Nolans'batman wasnt only there to "safe the day". He was there to track down the villain, find the villain and then kill the villain. Same as with Liam Neeson with his 'set of skills' in "Taken" and who can forget the wrath and revenge-laden 'Kill Bill'? Where a woman tracks down and kills the one who wronged her. or the dystopian 28 days later? In that last movie, the main character had the choice to escape. but he chose to stay, sneak around and exact revenge on those who wronged him and others. he turned into a murderous beast but we cheered him on... Only then could he start his new life and believe in a better tomorrow. After his revenge . all these movies had one theme; retribution. and it wasnt actually set in reality; We needed a cultural depiction of reason as to why we should invade Afghanistan and Iraq. because let me tell you; the media might have been chattering the same story over and over but we the people werent so sure about invading. But remember what bush said right after the attacks: " We will find them, smoke them out and bring them to justice" . rallying words and the american film industry showed us how to feel..and we cheered. But a few years later I was standing on Oxford circus protesting Bush and Blair's policies. realising i had been lied to and duped into thinking that all these movies depicted a possible reality of retribution. turns out it was just like the movies; Smoke and mirrors, signifying nothing and causing only death and destruction.
@@GullibleTarget Yes, one of the faults critics who I tend to agree upon find in Tarantino's nice oeuvre - and I do enjoy Kill Bill a lot - is that, especially in his later films, he never moves beyond the fantasy of revenge as a thematic climax. The ending to Hateful Eight was just awful - no way in reality, is a person going to hang to death in under 60 seconds - but it is done in a realism nature. However, in truth, hanging in its execution used to take up to forty-five minutes for a person to die, unless the rope was exactly in a position to cause a swift delivery from life, which couldn't be done in most cases since the hang man was usually some clutz hired from the lower classes. No way a villainess is going to be hung by two injured people with broken hands and die under sixty seconds, they'd have had to have had that scene last at least 12 minutes long, and hold up the weight of a full grown woman with your bare hands is impossible too. Plus it'd be a lot more gruesome and more bile. Realism is a tricky subject, because if it had no unrealism or surrealism too it - and my favourite parts about Tarantino are the unrealistic, surreal parts, like when Uma Thurman and John Travolta go on a date and Uma breaks the visual fourth wall or when the hitman fires a round of bullets and completely misses his target at point blank range. Pulp Fiction then ends on a note that's about REDEMPTION from violence - about, not taking revenge, but putting aside one's sword of redemption - so the reason Pulp Fiction appeals the most to audiences to this day, I think, is due to the reverse nature of how Samuel L. Jackson starts off as a vengeful bible-quoting killer, then ends up a pacifist who forgives his enemies for robbing him in a store. It's as though the characters of Tarantino, were stuck within the limitations of the speech about vengeance of one's brothers that S.L. Jackson uses to be cold blooded looking before he kills his victims. ''With furious anger''' and with ''great indignation'', Tarantino's later characters can only tell how to ''reign great vengeance upon those who would spoil my brothers'' and people of ''wicked'' designs. Samuel J. Jackson's hitman character, managed to transcend though, and see the absurdity of his own anger in the end, making him the most developed of all of Tarantino's literary creations.
@TimmyTheTinman I don't think there is a proper approach. If there was one, it would need to be agreed upon by a ruling majority or enforced by a ruling minority. To think in things like right/wrong, proper/improper is simplistic and not applicable to the nature of my post. Its not a claim or decleration of some position im taking. I described human behaviour in my post. You responded as if you saw it as a challenge and that I need to explain or prove something. I don't think you understood anything I typed.
I arrived in the US on July 4th, 2002. I was freshly 5 years old and had flown into JFK with a chaperone to meet my mom in the US. I remember the chaperone being really irritable during the flight and I thought maybe I did something to upset him. I started school that September in Kips Bay and my first year of school in the US will always be memorable because of the degree to which I had to adjust. I was a healthy child that was suddenly struck by persistent respiratory issues. I remember having to do terrorism drills in which my entire Kindergarten class had to run into the coat closet and shield our heads with our hands. I didn’t really develop the context to understand why until I asked a classmate who told me “a big building fell last year.” Now as an adult I realize all those breathing problems were probably a result of “the pile” downtown. My chaperone’s irritability was likely because we were flying into JFK, and the reason I didn’t understand my classes terrorism drills is because NONE of the adults I knew spoke about 9/11, even when prompted.
1999, 2001, 2008, 2016, & 2020 were important years signaling the end of Postmodernism as the dominant cultural lens. Edit: Forgot to include 1999 (due to C-bine). More info below, thanks.
Is your handle a play on Got2bReal by any chance? I saw the Mariah avatar and immediately thought of the parody youtube series Got2bReal, starring "Mariah and Whitney and Patty and Aretha and many more divas. If you havent seen it yet; you should start looking it up. Lowbrow entertainment but still fun. and did I mention Mariah was is in it?
When 9/11 happened I just turned 4, growing up it always made me sad that people where depressed around my birthday. As a kid I never really understood why it was so important that some building on the other side of the country fell down. As I got older my mother told me about how emotionally impacted everyone was and that she was terrified we would be attacked again. She always tried to make my birthday feel special and joyful, but I still remember the tv just showing images of devastation and lose.
I was only a year old when 9/11 happened, my sister’s dad told us that he rushed to pick us from daycare because we live next a large military base and he wasn’t sure if our city was next. Years later that same military base became the site of a mass shooting. I remember our teacher telling us the buses were running late and everyone just had to sit in the hallway and wait. Even after we got home at 7 pm no one would tell us what was happening. I mention this because to me it reflects that same feeling for me of adults trying navigate traumatic events around of kids.
My mom was doing in and out processing at the building where the pew pews happened - I was literally terrified because they scrambled the phones and no one could call. My entire family was watching the news and panicking and I couldn’t do anything. Remember the car checks you used to pray you got skipped because they literally took forever taking every little bit of trash out your trunk 😭 what a time to be alive.
@@Yasmeenabeena they kept us at the school for awhile before they got the all-clear. And yes, I remember those! Not so fun fact- the gun place where both shooters got there guns from is still open unfortunately
I love that this video exists. I was in 2nd grade when 9/11 happened and it's always fascinated me how abrupt the culture shift was. I always tell people if they want a real little snapshot into the Vibes of 2001 before 9/11, watch the film Josie & The Pussycats. Something about that movie just perfectly encapsulates the pop culture mindset before everything flipped.
Hey! I was in 1st grade on 9/11. I was 5, but turning 6 at the end of the month. I kinda wish I had memory of before 9/11. I can only remember watching preschool kid shows and those had happy vibes and aesthetics, but those are preschool shows… lmao. It’s cool to know someone near my age can remember because I feel that maybe I can actually “see” what you’re talking about. I understand and believe older people, but it’s said that a lot of people who were little kids around then, and I’m not referring to toddlers, don’t remember at all or much of that day. I remember it, because I live close to NY, but I didn’t know what was going on and didn’t know if 9/11 until a year or so later…
@@kaleyjoplinRAWRRthere is a video on hear which is an analysis of that film and discusses how the trailer for that movie ruined the success of the movie at the box office. Had the trailer been better more people would of went to see it!
My middle school was 15 minutes away from The Pentagon. I was in school watching the Towers on fire. Then the plane crashed into the Pentagon. Our school shook because of the impact. My aunt worked at the Pentagon and my dad was supposed to have an interview there. Thank God they both were not at the building. I've seen in real time how life America went from being happy, bright, and carefree to everything being stressful, paranoid, and depressing.
In reference to gen z's memeification of 9/11- in my experience, it's very reactionary. Growing up, every year on 9/11 you have teachers in schools spend So Much Time trying to impress upon you what a tragedy this event was. They show you videos of the towers burning, people jumping, and they make you listen to families last calls with their loved ones. Teachers would sit there and cry and tell you where they were on 9/11. And... yes, it's tragic. But you can't help but feel a certain bitterness and annoyance that you were shown these graphic videos at such a young age just because other people lived through it. At the same time, as you grow you start to realize the disgusting crimes the U.S. has justified doing with 9/11. And it just becomes clear that 9/11 is such a small drop in the bucket of misery, with much of that misery being committed by the U.S. So in response to these feelings, people make fun of the tragedy. 🤷♀️ Also, but I think this goes without saying, there's a shock-value factor used in a lot of the memes
Unfortunately February 2020 - (so far) September 2024 has been several times crazier in terms of historic events that affected us all, shifting culture, political polarization and extremism, economic changes, tragic loss of life and a new world taking form at a rapid pace. All I wish for is a decade that is as boring and dull as possible in terms of nothing happening. Even if I don’t think that will be the case and things only getting even crazier.
People talk about how music immediately changed after 9/11. The curtains instantly dropped on all the boy bands, girl groups, and "bright and futuristic" Max Martin bubblegum pop that defined the Y2K era, the moment the clock struck 8:46 on that fateful September morning. Willa Ford's "I wanna be bad" was the last big "Y2K pop" song that got big before everything changed (Posh Spice tried to keep Y2K pop going after September with her solo debut, but it was all too late and that album wasn't well-recieved)
Omg I feel like this also coincided with me starting to get frustrated as pop singers became more sexualized. Like no hate to them if they wanted to do that, but many groups like Dream were forced to get a sexier look despite their explicit resistance to that. 😢 I felt like I suddenly couldn’t watch music videos or listen to pop without my mom yelling at me for it being too inappropriate!
Yeah I remember there was a singer named Melissa Lefton who was supposed to be kind of like Britney, or rather the anti version of her. She was signed with Jive too, home to Britney and *NSYNC etc. Her lyrics were a bit quirky and dark and had that bubblegum pop sounds that was popular at the time. She was on a few soundtracks at that time so I think she was supposed to launch but then after 9/11 her album was shelved and never released to this day. I always wonder if this was the reason why her album never got released.
@@thebatterymill maybe these individual artists, but this comment is saying that 9/11 was the ultimate nail in the coffin for the public not being as interested in that genre as a whole anymore
I was born in 2007. I never experienced 9/11 myself, nor had any family members or family friends involved in the attack. But my family lived across the river in New Jersey, they saw the smoke from their house, they had friends who lost people, they had jobs near the towers. I never stepped foot in the twin towers, let alone new York city, but the memory of it stained the America I grew up in.
I’m Mexican and I remember my dad picked me and my brother up from school cause he thought ww3 had started and since Mexico is so close to the US he thought we were in immediate danger… he was so incredibly distressed. My brother was in a catholic school and he told me that priests entered every classrooms to announce what had happened and asked everyone to pray together for the victims
Weirdly enough, it feels like something changed even for a non-American. I was 6 at the time, I have a clear image of watching TV that day as my father was glued to it, but I didn't really pay attention, it was just something happening on TV. I also remember the invasion of Iraq, and the subsequent years when news of devastation in the Middle East became a daily thing, every day there were 100s of deaths in some explosion or other. I specifically remember the feel of the world changing around that time for me, 2003 onward. For a short while, I was really scared it would happen to my country, a North African country where we had two huge attacks, one in my city in a place I'd been to many many times. My brother was out that day and I remember my mother seeing the news and panicking, but he was alright. I was convinced this would only get worse. Thankfully it didn't, but then the fear turned into apathy. The death and devastation on TV became a routine thing, it wasn't only the world changing, but the way it was portrayed. Fear sells. We started being exposed to so much information, so much faster. The world just felt different, you looked at other people different, you thought about the future differently. Can't go back now. We had old relics from the 90s at home, VCRs, cassette tapes, old magazines. I'd often just go find them, and look at them for no reason, it just felt so bizarre as it brought me back to that time when I used to be so excited about how amazing the future would be, how technology would make the world a better place. I really miss it. Just wanted to share. It can feel very US-centric to say the world changed after 9/11, but it really did, it wasn't just about two buildings. The consequences of it directly lead to much more devastation. Unfortunately, the US' reaction was exactly what Bin Laden hoped for, I just think he didn't expect the effects to be so far-reaching. I hate how a single man's ambitions can change the course of history for the worst, time after time.
You tube has a plethora of video essays at this point, the majority of which are probably subpar, to be honest, but this was absolutely phenomenal and didn't even require super flashy visuals or editing. Good job!
when i was a kid, my favorite show was bear in the big blue house, and one of the episodes that stuck with me the most was the two-part story ‘welcome to woodland valley’. in it, a tree falls onto their local library and the children are devastated because it was a safe place for them, so they volunteer to help and clean up the mess and, in the process, create a sense of community that will stay strong during difficult situations like these. i wasn’t born in the us so the events of 9/11 barely affected my life, especially as a toddler, but i watched it again recently and the allegory is so clear. not only did the episodes come out almost exactly a year after the event, but bear (the protagonist) really serves as a mentor for the children watching it, dealing with their confusion with calm and grace. he’s basically a 90s mr rogers (who’s also a bear).
man this was excellent, I was four years old that day and my parents did a damn good job at hiding what was happening from me. I wasn’t able to really observe what was changing or what shifted in the world back then, and it’s content like this that I obsess over as I’m now 27
Dude same! I was four as well and I don’t have any memories from that day at all. I was probably happily playing in my room, enjoying the unexpected day off from Kindergarten while my parents were glued to the tv in the next room. I was a sensitive kid so I don’t blame them, but now I’m in the same boat as you: fascinated by videos like this that analyze the effect 9/11 had on American culture.
same (1997 babies rise up)! i only remember 2 brief moments from that day, i was absolutely not aware of what was happening in the world on 9/11. i’m glad my mom put on a teletubbies tape in the VHS for me and kept me away from live TV. i think we’re the last age group that semi remembers 9/11, which is crazy to think about.
I was also (almost) 4 at the time (what’s up fellow ‘97ers lol). Obviously didn’t understand what was happening but I remember my parents’ fear and the immediate aftermath
This is a wonderfully researched essay. I was too young to really understand the events of 9/11 at the time, but grew up in this pop culture atmosphere. This really puts it all in context.
I was 8 when it happened. I remember walking into the living room and there was no light in the room except the glow of the TV. I remember seeing both my parents sobbing in a blue light. they didn't see me there. so then I turned to look at what they were looking at and I was confused bc it looked like an action movie. My dad shaved his mustache and everyone thought he was hispanic. I remember my parents telling me to stop correcting people and confirm that he was hispanic...I was told to lie and i didn't understand why. Things weren't explained to me until I was 12.
i was 3 years old when 9/11 happened. it’s actually one of the first memories i have. i remember my mom having the news on all day and crying a lot. i tried to ask her what was wrong, and she didn’t know how to explain it to me
Thank you for such a thoughtful look into media post 9/11. The events can honestly cause me anxiety to this day, but this was a really intriguing and somehow cozy? look into the way media changed. Sometimes TH-cam really nails the recommendation. Keep up the great work :)
I was in Upstate NY when 9/11 happened. I was in my first couple days of school for the year in the computer lab and I was the first person who logged on and saw on the MSN home page and immediately ran without the teacher's permission straight to the principal's office to tell him what was going on. I then ran to my best friend's class pulled him out, also without permission and we called our parents to come get us. We knew it would be a little while before our parents could come so we grabbed a tv out of the A/V room rolled it into the computer lab and got it on about 2 mins before the second plane hit. I'm a history and news nerd so I knew the second I'd seen the first plane hit on a bright sunny day what was going on. The media wasn't allowed to speculate on air. It wouldn't have been professional to do so, but I knew what it was. Terrorism was a huge talking point in the country around that time. My parents ended up picking both me and my friend up and we left a good 30 mins before anyone else but our school sent all the kids home early that day and the school was closed down by 11:30am. Most kids in my school were already on their way home when the north tower finally collapsed. It's the most vivid memory of my teen years. More vivid than my first kiss, my prom anything 'normal' about life as a teenager. I remember the movies, music and other forms of art that were taken out of rotation on radio,tv and in theaters due to sensitivities surrounding 9/11. If a movie, music video or show had an image of the twin towers, or airplanes crashing or being hijacked anything in the realm of what happened on 9/11 you didn't see it for at least 6 months.
I also live in Upstate New York. In the capital region. I was supposed to have a dental appointment that day. Was in 7th grade art class at the time. Didn't get told what was going on until at least noon. Got pulled out of school anyways and saw the news. I channel flipped just to make sure i was really seeing what i was seeing. It was on every channel. Ive never experienced that before. Now years later, ive been able to see videos of footage that people got with their video cameras on the street during that day. And even though it was 23 years ago, it's like i was there and it was happening now.
hi! Me and my father are New Yorkers and he has a little bit of a story to share talking about Post-9/11 culture in the weeks and following months after the attacks. He was at the trade center that day and had to be evacuated and walked for miles back up to his home in the Bronx. He told me recently about how the week after 9/11, he had not gone back into Manhattan. But when he had went clubbing the following Monday after the attacks, he felt a unique sense of guilt even being out and being happy after such a horrific event had happened to his city. He told me about how when the club shut down at around 5 AM the following day, the crowd he had partied with went outside the club and watched an FDNY station being lit with candles and photographs. The crowd began to weep of course and it was a very somber moment after a night of partying. He explained how he felt so gut wrenched by the fact he had just spent the night partying at a club less than 10 blocks away from Ground Zero. He told me that experience was one of many that shaped New York into a very depressive place during those days and months after 9/11. While most of America tried to spend and go back to normal to cope with the attacks, New York didn't really get to any normalcy until Early 2002, and even then there was this huge backdrop of there being a hole in Manhattan and "God Bless The FDNY/Troops/NYPD". It was awkward for him for many years and even when we're in Lower Manhattan nowadays it's still somewhat rough for him. 9/11 changed culture forever, and it changed New Yorker Culture for a long while too.
off topic but the sound of your voice is SO relaxing. like full asmr. regardless, fantastic video. i'm a post-9/11 baby and it's so interesting to have someone verbalize this feeling that a lot of folks like me have that we were slightly too late.
The Chicks might have been right, but America ostracized them in a manner that had not been seen since Sinead O'Connor. Like Sinead, their careers were over in an instant. Like Sinead, Natalie's actions on that evening could also be considered the height of stupidity, hubris, and narcissism. First, nobody cares what you think, Natalie (and Sinead, RIP). Second, we live in a cruel, unforgiving world, a world of incredible hypocrisy. But if you are taking in millions of dollars from generally poor country folk who lay down their money at your concerts - while you are briefly married to a erstwhile TV star - you do NOT say that George W Bush is on the wrong end of a war.
i was only two when 9/11 happened. i grew up with a lot of pre-9/11 media, but i grew up in a world that was distinctly different, scarier. i've always found the tonal dissonance fascinating.
I just started 4th grade during 9/11, the death of Aaliyah and Left Eye, Mariah Carey’s film debut and emotional breakdown, AJ McLean’s rehab stint, Britney’s iconic snake performance, film debut and split from Justin Timberlake and the debut of the Harry Potter film saga. I remember coming home from school and watching the news coverage on TV, I couldn’t watch any cartoons or even TRL at the time due to the footage and the aftermath. Last year, I went to the 9/11 memorial for the first time ever which was an emotional experience. My prayers condolences go out to those who lost their loved ones at the World Trade Center ❤🤍💙🙏🏽
I was not born to witness 9/11 as it unfolded, but my parents were present on that day and they recall the sheer terror from it. My father’s part of the story (i had to ask people i know what they felt during the day of the attacks) stuck out to me the most because he had a friend that was up in those towers on that day, and the last they ever heard from him was by phone call. Ever since hearing that story it really changed me and how I view things, how much it affected the people who knew the victims. I grew up on fear, I grew up on stuff that I never thought would hurt me this badly, despite how lovely it felt growing up in the 2000s as a child. It’s hard to watch films like Oliver and Company that still have a shot of the twin towers as they used to be, it’s like a constant grim reminder of what used to be. The world never changed.
A fascinating look at this! I was a senior in college (and nearly 21) when the Towers got hit and it really was a surreal day. Classes got canceled (which never happens) and we all spent the day huddled around our TVs and trying to contact relatives. Pop culture wise, I did watch 24 at the time and I know there was concern about the depiction of a small personal plane hitting a building in one of the episodes. Later on, I've noticed that movies and TV set in the past (or depicting time travel) tend to want to highlight the impact of said past / time travel by panning up and showing the NY skyline with the Twin Towers intact, as like a gut punch for those of us who lived through it.
I had just turned 18 and was a freshman. Watched the second plane huddled around a little TV with other coworkers until they closed our mall. They were all scurrying to find a PA beverage store still open. I kept changing majors and taking our extra loans because what's it matter post-nuclear or anthrax annihilation? Thought for a long time the skyline reflected filming timelines... not purposeful edits.
@Dani_SB in the beginning, yes, but there were a few times it was purposeful. Life on Mars, for example, where a guy gets sent back to 1970s NY purposefully edited in the Towers. I myself went to grad school because the job market scared me. That was a mistake
i wasn't even 3 months old when 9/11 happened so i have no memory of it. but my mum was still on mat leave and she was watching live with kelly and regis and didn't know what was happening but she knew something was off because they kept looking distressed/looking off camera. eventually she flipped to the news and saw the live coverage and immediately thought "what have i brought my child into". i think about that every time i see coverage of 9/11 and i still get chills.
You realised all this at three months old? how do you even remember your mum watching Kelly and Regis and what she was thinking? And are you british by any chance? I always thought americans said 'mom' and not 'mum'. We have no Kelly and Regis in the UK and youtube live didnt exist. europe found out late in the afternoon. Time difference. we wouldnt be watching Kelly and Regis, we watched the late afternoon news. So is your mum a brit living in the US or are you making stuff up?
@@GullibleTarget so there’s this fun thing called me having a conversation with my mum about 9/11 where she tells me her recollection of it. and im Canadian but live in the UK lmao
I was born in 1999, so I was alive when 9/11 happened but not old enough to have any real solid memories associated with it. My older sister who’s a millennial remembers watching it in real time on the news and getting pulled out of school, but for me it’s almost one of those terrible stories that I have no real attachment too. I did live through and remember immediate pop culture ramifications like oddly patriotic everything and discourse about the war in Iraq but that’s about it. That being said, this was a super interesting watch for me! Thank you!
I was born almost 6 years after 9/11 (my birthday is this weekend) so I’ve spent my entire life in a post 9/11 world. Everything I’ve ever known is because of those events. Until 3 years ago I didn’t know of a world where we weren’t sending soldiers to die in Afghanistan, I can’t imagine not having extreme security at airports, I never got to see the twin towers against the New York skyline. Every year since 1st grade we have watched the news coverage. I have seen the first responders run into the buildings and never return. I have seen people jump from the towers, opting for s*icide over burning alive. I have seen the towers fall over and over again. I’m practically desensitized to it because it’s all I’ve ever known. I’ve lived in a world surrounded by fear, it’s all I’ve ever known and it’s probably all I ever will know. I wish that I could have experienced a pre 9/11 world, even for only a few minutes. I wish I could know what peace felt like instead of fear
Believe me. There never was peace. There were two world wars, the Korean war, the Vietnam War, the cold war, the Cuban Missile Crisis, the Gulf War, the threat of nuclear war ever since WWII, China invading Tibet, etc., etc. We never felt safe.
I agree with this omg. I was also born 6 years after 9/11. I have never felt pride in our government or our country, I've never felt safe. Especially in the 2020s, I've never once felt hope. People think I'm a pessimist, but I beg to differ. I just look at the world im going to be an adult in and I see how horrible it is. Everyone hates everyone, inflation is crazy high, I'll probably never own a house, art of any form is disrespected and possibly being taken by AI (i want to be an actor and music producer). What is there to look forward to? I just want to crawl into every pre 9/11 video I see and relish in it. A time where everyone was truly happy. Everything looked so fun and peaceful.
Yeah,same too,born two years after 9/11 I wish I knew a world before 9/11,instead like us all we grew up in a time that wasn’t so peaceful,and I really feel it after Covid which seems to have changed everything for me in my lifetime,I hope we can get some good times soon.
I was born right before 9/11; my mom was still in the hospital after having a c-section. I was the first child, and she said she just looked at my dad and asked him what sort of world had they just brought a child into.
None of the cultural touchstones mentioned here were that important to me at the time. I was a teenager and I remember I had plans to go see ‘Amelie’ which had just begun screening in my area. My friends and I postponed the outing since ‘terrorism happened.’ It was very weird times.
I remember the headline The Onion had shortly after. "America Longs to Go Back to Caring About Stupid Shit". Pop culture didn't exactly die that day, but it did go into a coma.
The late night host part is very heartbreaking. It really reminds you that in that moment before we were anything else, we were New Yorkers facing a devastating loss in our community.
Thank you. I'm French, not aged 30 yet, immensely immersed in popular mainstream american media and so: with this, you provided answers for the immediate curiosity I have this season that I'd been looking to satiate. Great structure, had my attention the entire time, I prefer calm speech like yours, enviable eloquence. Must have spent a long time researching. I admire and applaud you. Net benefit for intellectually curious and nostalgic people
It’s so weird being born shortly after these events. Growing up it was just one of those things I knew happened, but was just hard to comprehend what all was lost. I knew on a more fundamental level it was sad and tragic due to the loss of life, but the sort of optimism and innocence of pre 9/11 American is something that even now I find so hard to imagine. Especially with events like the 2008 recession happening while I was growing up and more recently the pandemic, I feel I’ve never truly experienced a time where America wasn’t in some state of jeopardy
Interesting fact: in the movie Artificial Intelligence that was released a few months before 9/11 is a scene depicting a future New York partly flooded, but with the Twin Towers still being there.
This is my very first video of yours that I’ve seen and as someone who was born a few years after the 9/11 attacks, this is an insanely interesting and informative video! It’s so interesting how one event was so significant that it changed the a world that I’ve never known.
wish you would've touched on video games, what call of duty and the military shooter genre did to the minds of teen boys is immense and it also cemented many tropes into the emerging video game market in general that we still see
The 2004 Battlestar Galactica series comes to mind. It was like a metaphor for the war on terror. The series got a lot of praise. It's one of my favorites.
Yes please cover how Gen Z memes 9/11, I know our govt isn’t perfect and used this event to create a war that wasn’t legit and to be Islamophobic. But also we shouldn’t minimize how tragic 9/11 was either - a gen z girlie
so true!!! Those jokes get old at some point too, sometimes I believe younger generations are less serious about 9/11 because in a way there have been so mwah other tragedies “worse” (I don’t wanna compare ofc) than 9/11, and more recent. So maybe they see the day as a thing from the past
As a millennial, it’s not just Gen Z… the memes have been around since at least the late 2000s from various ages. On forums, people used to joke about their cat or a news story and link to a photo of the twin towers. What really minimizes and damages the tragedy is all the garbage conspiracy theories that have arisen that are hell bent on rewriting history/excusing the actual terrorists.
@@daniidanboyI'm pretty sure gen Z is so desentized to the tragedy because we were exposed to it so young. I remember sitting down with classmates in kindergarten or something and drawing 9/11 memorial pictures etc. After awhile it all becomes a blur and you become disconnected from the actual thing when you're exposed to it like that
@@neru1584to a degree. I was born in 88, so I was a pre teen when 9/11 happened and remember the day relatively well and the after math. But I was also born after huge events like the JFK assassination, which really had the same kind of impact 9/11 did to those alive that experienced both. I never saw memes or jokes about his murder. Same goes with probably the biggest US terrorist event of the 1990’s, then OKC bombing, which I don’t remember at all. Current younger Generations are so inundated with media and info I think they become numb to it free a while and lose a base moral filter for what’s right and wrong. There is also the anonymity aspect of the media that lets people be completely unfiltered and get away with it, so they try to do or say the most shocking things to garner likes and attention. That’s not healthy long term. Of course this kind of behavior has been happening in older generations too. I sympathize with the generations after me because they essentially have had to live online.
This is the first video of yours I’ve watched and I’m SO impressed. This is the content I come to TH-cam for. Thank you for an incredibly informative and well made video.
Couldnt listen to it. ASMR is like a mosquito climbing into my ear and reading a bedtime story, to me. The action is sweet but the execution is very annoying and earpiercing. Wrote a whole rant about it. She really doesnt need to hold the mic that close.
It's certainly one thing I miss about the pre-9/11 world: the absence of nonsense internet fads and culture. Remember folks - the water starts circling faster the closer we get to the drain!
Great video ! I was 27 on 9/11 with a 9 month old daughter and over the years explaining the events of the day and how it felt to watch it unfold live on tv was difficult because even though she was alive when it happened, she of course doesn’t remember it. I also have a daughter born in 2005 and it’s just different for them because they didn’t experience it like I did, yea they know it was horrific and sad but they’ll never feel connected to that day they way I do…. It’s just a weird thing.. like my mom being 14 when JFK was killed, I grew up knowing what happened and seeing the footage but I wasn’t connected to that event like she was ❤
loved this video!!! , super interesting topic. my chemical romance was born after the events of 9/11 and the song they wrote: skylines and turnstiles is such a honest depiction of the hopelessness people felt after 9/11
THIS, this is what I was looking for... It feels really weird how relaxed and cool everything seems to be from 70s to 90s and well, as someone who enjoys a lot of retro music (particularly vaporwave and citypop), its always those towers in the backgrounds and art, the symbol of American optimism and cultural influence around the globe. Shaping the business model from which stemed the japanese salaryman and other american-native cultural stereotypes around the world. I never lived that era since I'm a 2000s kid, but the change in tone around the world is palpable on media and records alone.
I’m like 2 minutes in and I just have to say that you have the most soothing voice! I feel both relaxed and fully engaged with what you are saying and that never happens, I can’t wait to watch the rest of your videos!
I attended a seminar called "The cultural impact of 9/11" at a German university in 2011. I'm 6 minutes into the video and feel like I already learned more than in the entirety of that seminar.
Fantastic video essay! It's so interesting to me as someone who was too young to remember where I was on 9/11 but old enough to grow up in the immediate cultural aftermath, to see us enter an era where we can really take a look back and see the impacts over the past two decades.
Phenomenal video instant sub. You deserve more views this was so well researched, and really captured what it was like after. I was 8 during 9/11 so I particularly appreciated the coverage of the kids/teen media.
Incredibly niche and incredibly well done video essay. I was at the age right on the cusp of where you either remember 9/11 or you don't. I was in the first grade when 9/11 happened, I remember our teacher encouraging conversation about the topic for the days following the attack. She would ask us what we had seen on tv about it? She would then do her best to answer our questions in a way that we could understand, teachers really are incredible! Now as an adult every September I always get an intense hyper fixation on the subject and this was the perfect video. It was educational enough to fulfill my 9/11 hyper fixation while also providing a unique take on the overnight changes in pop culture. Great job on the video and research!
You’d think after 9/11 music & entertainment would have become more serious & socially conscious, but it went the opposite. They doubled down on the shallow, materialistic & stupid.
Im an 06 baby, but i have a fascination with pre 9/11 culture. Looking how i grew up compared to some raised in the 90s is mind boggling. Changes in culture used to be slow. My parents have an age gap but were raised similar in some ways. Hell i can see similarities between my dad and my grandparents. But me compared to them? Completely different
I was 11 when 9/11 happened. I'd seen disasters on TV before but nothing like this, it was all consuming for weeks on end, and I'm not even American. The scariest part was the victims looked just like my parents (they both had office jobs). I live in a small city without skyscrapers but if I visit a large city I feel absolutely terrified. I can't look at a tall building without seeing a plane flying into it. I feel scared watching planes too. I'm not scared of flying, I just feel a sense of terror seeing planes move through the air.
Why do you qualify the actions of the Flight 93 passengers with the word potentially at 16:55? How could the passengers retaking a hijacked plane be interpreted as anything BUT the successful thwarting of another attack?
The passengers of United 93 didn’t breach the cockpit until like a second before the plane hit the dirt, unfortunately. The terrorists heard them coming through, and knew that they’d stop them. So they ditched the plane instead, which was the protocol if any of the hijackers couldn’t get to their destination. This is substantiated by the cabin’s flight recorder obtained from the black box after the crash. It’s sad, because the passengers had a plan. They even knew who would fly the plane down to land it.
@@Sky-dz1gjIt's disrespectful to the lives of the passengers to minimise their heroism and bravery. They didn't potentially stop an attack, they definitely did.
You mentioned that Gen Z has only recently started to find humor in the tragedy in the last 2-3 years, but I distinctly remember people joking about it in like middle school, and I'm old enough to have completed a bachelor's! It goes way back.
I rarely comment on YT videos, but wanted to thank you for putting such a thoughtful video around such a tragic day and how it changed the world. I am from North Jersey and I was 8 years old when 9/11 happened... so its close to home for me. I remember that Express Yourself series on Disney channel and remembering thinking as a CHILD: "Wow, this seems odd to me" Anyway, thank you again for such a great video. Can't wait to watch more videos from you!
LOOOL there is no war in ba sing se really was the approach ...I love this video and the overall commentary and tone are spot on. great work! i'm from new york and was a kid when 9/11 happened but sometimes it still feels like yesterday. every september i find myself watching videos and documentaries about the day because i was alive and i saw it but i was also a child and couldn't comprehend the scale of the tragedy so there's so much to learn....it's weird to think how much propaganda and censorship there's been in the last 20 plus years because of that day...
oh my god i’m so happy this got thrown at me by the algorithm! subscribing bc you present in a great and compelling way, and you have a soothing speaking voice. cannot believe you’re only at 2k!
A lot of scenes in "Love actually" also deal with the aftermath of 9/11 but from a more distant, European perspective, which if you watch it now during the holidays seems wild. There is the intro, narrated by Hugh Grant as the prime minister while we see scenes of families an friends reuniting at an airport, basically with the message that love wins, no matter where you are from (members of some families wearing hijabs in those scenes, which back then was usually rarely the case). Then that kid who is in love with the American exchange student who has to get past all sorts of security measures which were newly implemented at airports after 9/11. The extent of these measures is also somewhat ridiculed in those scenes because many perceived them as mere obstacles. And finally, if you've ever wondered why everybody in Britain cheers on the prime minister for publically sticking it to the American president out of what was actually a personal vendetta in his pro England speech: Many people in Western Europe felt that the reasons for the war in Iraq were fabricated and they did not want to send their own into this war. European leaders however opted to join Bush's "war on terror". The public's reaction to Hugh Grant's speech (England is strong and no longer will be bullied into action etc etc) is a reflection of that sentiment.
Hugh Grant can drive his little fake fancy McLaren around until it combusts idc say what u will about the Democratic Party of the USA could u imagine if we also had lib Dems like that, I mean u probably can’t it’s a weird system here idk u get me tho like reverse 1992 effect on every US election state and federal ur reform party is like the heart of the abyss right bro rip British ppl that sucks but here it was just like the radical centrist whatever tf Ross Perot party but even he was like gahh we NEED to save the POWs left in Nam! He like televised it u wanna talk like I’m in the 9/11 subculture type people did they have those POW/MIA flags everywhere or just Long Island/other NY suburbs or were those in New York city itself too I’d guess I only lived on LI as a little kid I have no clue tbh but they were on every single building basically I think Perot started that POW/MIA as a loose movement or whatever it was that was where like Northrop Grumman started ironically the one place I remember not leaning into it was cradle of aviation right by the islanders arena like massive plane/spacecraft museum that was pretty swag of them but it was like empty a lot idk if they survived ngl unless I just don’t remember it at all and that was 2008 sorry for the manifesto Newcastle Newcastle go team Newcastle United a joyous beam (of victory)!! I love soccer and the Newcastle Utd side on FOX networks! Hugh Grant set me off like a sleeper agent can’t stand him bro I do in fact know what a film is I just hate when English people say it cuz what on earth would you even sign up for then I mean they’re just outright there to compete with hobby lobby and the Taliban in plunder it’s not like there’s really any pretense there they only even sent the ginger prince for the found footagey pr clip
you had me a little worried the mcr 9/11 timeline would not come up at all lmao (i’m obsessed with how many things can be tracked to gerard way being there, it’s actually kinda insane)
This makes for a really nice complimentary piece to Lindsay Ellis' Loose Canon episodes on 9/11 as there's a lot of overlapping examples that have been used in the scripts. However, you have the hindsight of over 20 years, whereas Lindsay's two parters were maybe only 16 or 17. It's still really cool to see the retrospectives, regardless of creator. E: And you shout it out anyways! Love it when I'm on the same incidental wavelength of a pre recorded one sided conversation. 😂 I will, however, shout out her video on the music post 9/11 as it was just briefly touched on in your script.
I was 9 in 2001. The teacher told us we were on lockdown and we watched tv. I had never heard of a lockdown in reference to school at that point. I knew it was a big deal but I didn’t understand the gravity. It’s crazy how this (unfortunately) united the nation for a while.
I was in middle school when 9/11 happened and it really did feel like everything changed after that. Things felt pretty miserable after that and the patriotism/jingoism went through the roof, as you mentioned.
I turned 11 on 9/11 and for many years I would always get told "oh! I'm so sorry.." when I'd tell my bday..... it didn't stop until around... past 2015ish? It was always so weird to me, especially being from the west coast... like, I'm not someone that was affected... other people needed that sympathy/empathy more than me
I had just started my senior year of high school in 2001, so 9/11 and the surrounding events happened during a formative time in my life. I was never a typical consumer of pop culture (I watched very little TV for example), but after the initial shock I do remember being disgusted by the censorship and propaganda that stretched well into the decade. By the the time Bush was out of office there was a lot of pushback in the cultural zeitgeist, but in some circles the jingoism and xenophobia persisted. I remember feeling that there would never be a way for the culture as a whole to fully process it, and I think history has borne that out so far. Great video!
The thing about 9/11, was that, while 9/11s have happened and will continue to happen across the world - was that took place in a place most people thought was completely 'safe' from war-like mass violence, and that it was one of the first events of this magnitude to be seen by millions live and recorded so thoroughly. A reality check so bizzare and shocking, it literally fried people's brains I think.
incredible video, no notes 👏🏻 i’ve been thinking about this a lot and the cultural impact of 9/11, mostly because i was a toddler at the time and i had no concept of the general culture pre-attack and how things changed. it’ll be interesting to see other major events through this lens in the future.
I was 9 in 2001 and I remember when all the popular artists from that time made a cover of Marvin Gaye’s song in response to 9/11. I feel like I never hear about it anymore but I remember it played on the radio for the rest of that year.
My dad always said that 9/11 was the real start of the 2000s. He said that everyone was still high off the 90s, and then you have this tragic event that reshaped media going forward like you mentioned.
Weird you mention this and it felt like everyone went into 2020 riding the highs of the 2010s only for 3 months into it another tragic world event happened. Those first 3 months of 2020 didnt even feel real. They felt like an extension of 2019.
@@crumbsdoeNow you have me wondering if this is just a weird pattern. Maybe some other major world event will happen going into 2030.
@crumbsdoe The real difference with the 90s and 2010s is the affordability of everything, including cars and houses. Now you can live at home till you're 35 and still not have half of your loans paid off, it's a sick joke that the general population just accepted one day.
@@fenixfelixx I would agree affordability is the biggest difference absolutely. The motive is and has always been ‘profit’ but atleast during the 90s and early 2010s it still felt like companies & brands cared about the persona their brand carried & wasnt all about profit. There was life in their advertisements, it felt more inclusive. Now it all feels the same, it feels like greed had ruined all of that.
@@PeachiiPawz Just remember the US is 3 months out from an election. You should be able to predict what might happen in the next 4 years based on who wins.
now THIS is the niche content i look for in life
Right?? I come to TH-cam for exactly this!
YESSSSS
9/11 is niche content?
same. i clicked so fast
@@oliverowsnot exactly. i think they mean what impacts it had on various topics/industries. it’s something we don’t really consider or think about, i find it very interesting
No 9/11, no My Chemical Romance
No Umbrella Academy either
no twilight too
@@galic6068I knew there had to be a catch. 😅
@@galic6068what do you guys mean?
@@aimforlifenowgerard way watched 9/11 happen irl and decided at that moment they needed to get a move on and start a band. twilight's author got its inspiration from my chemical romance. twilight then also inspired fifty shades of grey. without 9/11 none of these things would've happened.
side note, my chem hated twilight and turned down doing music for the movies for... yo gabba gabba.
"the genre that sounded like if an american flag gained sentience and started making music" help😭😭
I was 9 in 2001 and obsessed with this Barbie line where the characters went to this international school in NYC. I remember that this line had a website where you could read the characters' aol groupchats and I LOVED it. After 9/11 I remember they implemented the events of that day into the characters' aol convos and diary entries where they tried to make sense of it as teenage girls and tbh I never realized it until now that you mentioned kids' media attempts to help children cope that I found a lot of comfort in that website at the time. I also just realized that the dolls were discountinued not long after that and now I wonder whether it was bc mattel was pushed by the government to drop a franchise centered around kids having fun in new york lmao. I wouldn't be surprised.
Was it the Generation Girl Barbie line?
No, it was probably just too hard to maintain in a post 9/11 America (I won’t say world because it’s not the same outside, the effects are different everywhere).
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I love this and I would pay real money to see those edited aol group chats
I loved Generation Girls, too!
as a middle eastern person who wasn’t even born when 9/11 happened it has done irreparable damage to the way we’re treated in the usa and the conditions our countries are stuck in . the war on terror era that followed 9/11 still influences the way ppl my age see me and feel abt my background. I’ve lost friends bc they decided i was scary simply for where im from (id been friends w them for years at that point) and ppl have told me the most heinous things they want to happen to ppl like me and the places we’re from.
the discussion of how MENA is depicted post-9/11 would def be too big for the scope of this video but it’s always interesting to think abt how it completely changed perceptions of the region and its ppl
I realized this since I was a kid. I was born after 9/11 too, and the thing I’ve heard about middle eastern people since I was in kindergarten… was wild. Never liked how hateful a lot of American people were towards Middle Easterns.
I’m so sorry you went through that hate, 9/11 is a hard subject for most but my heart goes out to all the innocent people from the Middle East that had to face so many hate crimes, for so long no one thought to give them a second thought. You deserve to be around people who are open minded.
Thanks for sharing your experience. The whole post 911 reaction was wrong. America created an enemy. Again.
The Exorcist opened up with a “Allahu Ackbar”. It’s crazy thinking you can’t even cite one of most widespread prayers in the world without controversy these days
I'm just happy ppl finally educated themselves and some learned how these are mostly geopolitical acts of violence that's always masked and laced with religion or good vs evil. A tool thar is always used on Both Sides. There are many Muslims whose allegiance is completely to America but some ppl still fel that Islam in America is real thing and wholeheartedly take on and live n love Western Culture.
The biggest news that day until 8:45am was Michael Jordan was returning to the NBA to play with the Wizards.
Who himself was following a feel-good story in sports as the NHL was gearing up for the first full season with Mario Lemieux in 5 years.
Yep. And Blockbuster trading out VHS for DVDs. I miss the old days.
A minute later, the North Tower was struck and the attacks begun
i remember hearing that story on the today show while i was curling my hair, getting ready for school.
@@tbc9096 How did they become "the old days"? Crying 😭😭😭 Where did the time go?
The weirdest instance of post-9/11 censorship I remember (I was in college when it happened) was when a local video store went through their DVDs for sale and put White-Out on every box of a romcom movie where you could just barely see the Twin Towers in the background. It not only made it more obvious, it also struck my one friend (whose father had been working nearby but survived) as disrespectful to pretend that the buildings never existed. It was such a strange time.
I went to see rush hour 2 in cinemas and outside the doors they had a not saying the movie could trigger 911 memories.. Due to the office explosion in the opening
I graduated HS in 2001. I was a new adult. It's still mind boggling to me how much the world changed in a day.
I graduated college at the beginning of 2020. I guess I joined the club lol
Same, Lyn
@@turnersgauge3430i graduated he in 2020. Can I join lol
I graduated high school in 2000.
I did too! Crazy how our childhood years really ended that day.
Glad this popped up in my recommendations.
I was a freshman in HS when 9/11 happened. I am an Arab American who was on academic scholarship at a Catholic high school.
I remember waking up and seeing in real time the second tower being hit.
I was kept home that day and the rest of the week by my parents.
But yeah the cultural impact was huuuge. I grew up in a city that is incredibly liberal and being gay and not catholic at a Catholic high school didn't seem to bother my classmates but being Arab and Muslim (at the time), made high school a nightmare, so much so that I chose to leave the US for university.
Long story short, I appreciate any videos that talk about the culture and society post-9/11. Instead of just the details of the day.
I'm so sorry. The way Muslims were treated in the aftermath is beyond shameful. It also brought out our incredible ignorance. There was a Sikh temple in our neighborhood, and members had to guard it 24/7 to prevent vandalism or worse.
It's still shit. It's the driving force for Europe's xenophobia even now. If 9/11 hadn't happened, I'm not sure who would be the scapegoat for all far right parties here. Maybe we wouldn't even have such a strong resurgence of right wing parties.
Sure, the migrant increase in 2015 was a stress on the system but maybe it would've been seen less as an invasion if we didn't perceive Muslim people as "dangerous"
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My white mom told me not to tell anyone I was half Palestinian after 9/11. She genuinely feared for my safety. Especially since an Indian man was murdered in my neighborhood because they thought he was Muslim. 😢
@@Amira_Jessa 😞
The fact that Donna Summer is technically a casualty of 9/11 because she was at her apartment on the day that it happened and it caused the cancer that killed her
exactly.
😢 I didn't know that
this has actually been debunked
Oh? @@archivesunset4214
I still remember when she died. I was walking down the street near where I lived near Wimbledon.
This is very random but I always think about the fact that Aaliyah never knew 9/11 happened
right! i find it crazy that she died a couple weeks before 9/11
Well, she was dead and also died in a plane crash
Exactly, like… it just makes no sense. Her death is one I still have yet to come to terms with. 2001 had such a tragic ending.
A kid in my high school drowned in 1999, very popular rugby league player but just a really sweet kid. Nothing like the stereotypical American jock bully. Sometimes I still think about him. Like "that's it, that's all he got to have, 17 years and now he's gone". The tragedy still hurts and yeah, it's mind boggling that he never saw anything beyond the 90s.
Stahp! That wound never healed 😭
I was 10 when 9/11 happened....old enough to know it was horrible, but not old enough to truly understand how it impacted everything outside of that day. Thank you for this incredibly niche and detailed topic!
I was 11 and completely agree. It’s like I completely understood it, but didn’t understand it at all. At 34 I feel like I’m rewatching/reliving it from the lens of an adult now and I’m so fascinated exploring every facet of it. How society changed, stories we hadn’t heard before, how music changed, what artists made music expressing what was going on? what were the towers like on the inside before it happened? who had photos/videos before it happened? how they’re still identifying the lives lost…how people still are working jobs to identify people? In a sense, I feel like we moved on so quickly from it?
I was 9, I feel like I had a pretty solid grasp on what was happening…I mean…for a 4th grader,
but my dad was a marine and had been training overseas for 6 months prior. He was on a ship, on his way home from Singapore on 9/11.
So, rather than him coming home, they just sent him straight to Baghdad… (I think…), and I don’t think I saw him until a full year after that.
I distinctly remember my family saying,
“…he was 4 days away from being back home, but they turned the boat around”…
(I don’t know if this is true…or if it even makes sense, but in my mind they literally turned the boat around lol)
Then he was back home for maybe 3 months, then sent back out to…maybe Kuwait?, & was supposed to be gone again for 6-12 months or so.
What ended up bringing him home for good was a torn ACL that needed surgery, and he finally made it home like 3 weeks before my little brother was born. Just in time.
And to any of my fellow millennials who were in elementary school on 9/11 and haven’t yet been down the rabbit hole that is all things 9/11…Godspeed and safe travels, friends…it’s a surprisingly deep rabbit hole. Even just here on TH-cam there are ENDLESS HOURS of info on all aspects of the tragedy…I’ve watched and listened to some pretty heartbreaking stuff.
I was hyper fixated on watching home videos camera footage from different perspectives as the towers fell, and documentaries or interviews with people who made it out despite being inside as high up as the 84th floor or something crazy. When the plane hit the building. There are some incredible stories to be told and if you’ve never explored that corner of the internet, I’d suggest it.
I was 12
It’s hard to describe: you know what’s going on but your mind is gradually adjusting. At first you struggle to believe the whole thing as it’s happening, almost denial I suppose.
I was in science class and the teacher put on a radio, a plane hit the side of the tower. My mind couldn’t totally comprehend it, even at some point when a kid announced that the second tower fell
I was almost 9. I remember this being talked about nonstop everywhere on tv and real life. Even though I didn’t know everything that happened and wasn’t mature enough to fully understand, i think all the news still subconsciously got to me as I had an odd nightmare where I looked outside my bedroom window and saw people screaming and the moon set on fire.
I was in my mid-30s and a journalist during 9/11 and one thing you couldn’t possibly know … because you wouldn’t find records of it … was how overt and direct the censorship post-9-11 was. The range of artistic reactions was far and away more diverse than what you’d find looking at what is preserved now as mainstream culture. Even country music had this wild range. The Chicks were not unique but they are the best known in part because of the Shut Up and Sing documentary. You’ll probably find a scene in that film talking about the congressional hearings about Clear Channel censoring artists by refusing to let their stations play certain songs or musicians. That phenomenon stretched way beyond The Chicks.
One moment I particularly remembered because it was SO trivial was the removal of Babylon 5 reruns from the air. If you’ve seen it, it’s about what happens to a diplomatic space station when people are trying to manipulate the world into a massive war. I remember thinking gosh someone is afraid we’re going to see some kind of parallel to something in this 90s science fiction series.
Journalists were under a lot of pressure to not question the Iraq war. The Washington Post eventually ran a comprehensive case against the war but only after weeks of front page pro war coverage and only after Bob Woodward threw a personal fit. It ran on page 26 and lay out everything we now know to be true but it was too late. The way that the trauma of the 9/11 was used to manipulate this country into that war is forgotten because again- censorship means there’s no records. There’s nothing to find.
I was just rewatching season 4 of Angel and was surprised to see how much 9/11 and post 9/11 imagery is built into the apocalypse story there. It probably doesn’t come across now but there’s a rain of fire, people escaping a skyscraper, everyone being mesmerized by their televisions, not being able to trust the people next to you. It’s all there.
If you haven’t seen “My Name is Khan” you should. The opening sequence is based on Shah Rukh Khan’s real experiences and his thoughts on what would happen if he wasn’t rich, fluent in English and a Bollywood star. The film is … well it’s very Bollywood and there is a random act of Barack Obama at the end. But it does trigger a lot of memories of an aspect of that era that a lot of people again never saw.
Anyway thank you for looking at this era. Also if you get the chance to see Come From Away it’s worth it. But you have to think about it as a Sept 10 story not a Sept 11 story. A group of lucky people get to live in the world of Sept 10 for days after the attacks and they are lucky to do it.
Thank you for your perspective. I was in my 30s during that time as well, working in the marketing department for the Seattle Symphony, and I was deeply concerned about the censorship that was going on (especially with the Clear Channel memorandum).
even now the censorship has worked its way into the collective consciousness as the only "right" way to report on 9/11 is to never show any blood.
Thank you for sharing your firsthand experiences from that time. It’s so interesting to get the inside scoop from someone who was a journalist then.
Man you just unlocked a memory. I was 22 when 9/11 happened and had done an internship at a local radio station in the spring semester. Friend of mine was doing an internship at the same station -- a Clear Channel property -- that fall, and she said the change was instant and total. Not only were staff not allowed to criticize the government or the military (in a military town, of course), they were expected to support them vocally. It was ridiculous, and I'd repressed that memory until now!
@@ashextraordinaire It was kooky and traumatic so I totally understand! I often wish people now realized that just because it looks like everyone agreed with changes doesn’t mean we did.
You know what, you're totally right. I was 9 when 9/11 happened. I noticed that right around the 2000s culture started demanding realism in our movies, Batman is the perfect example. Look at the tone of the 90s batman films compared to Christopher Nolan's.
I was 21. from my point of view as an adult at the time;. if anything, escapism became more of a thing. marvel was up and coming and every other film that came out was some super hero film or an action movie with revenge and retribution as motive. Its not so much a need for realism. people wanted things to be more gritty. people wanted to see movies were the hero gets back at the villain after being hurt.
chris Nolans'batman wasnt only there to "safe the day". He was there to track down the villain, find the villain and then kill the villain. Same as with Liam Neeson with his 'set of skills' in "Taken" and who can forget the wrath and revenge-laden 'Kill Bill'? Where a woman tracks down and kills the one who wronged her. or the dystopian 28 days later? In that last movie, the main character had the choice to escape. but he chose to stay, sneak around and exact revenge on those who wronged him and others. he turned into a murderous beast but we cheered him on... Only then could he start his new life and believe in a better tomorrow. After his revenge
. all these movies had one theme; retribution. and it wasnt actually set in reality; We needed a cultural depiction of reason as to why we should invade Afghanistan and Iraq. because let me tell you; the media might have been chattering the same story over and over but we the people werent so sure about invading. But remember what bush said right after the attacks: " We will find them, smoke them out and bring them to justice" . rallying words and the american film industry showed us how to feel..and we cheered. But a few years later I was standing on Oxford circus protesting Bush and Blair's policies. realising i had been lied to and duped into thinking that all these movies depicted a possible reality of retribution. turns out it was just like the movies; Smoke and mirrors, signifying nothing and causing only death and destruction.
@@GullibleTargetwhat do you suppose is the proper approach and what would you do differently?
@@GullibleTarget Yes, one of the faults critics who I tend to agree upon find in Tarantino's nice oeuvre - and I do enjoy Kill Bill a lot - is that, especially in his later films, he never moves beyond the fantasy of revenge as a thematic climax.
The ending to Hateful Eight was just awful - no way in reality, is a person going to hang to death in under 60 seconds - but it is done in a realism nature. However, in truth, hanging in its execution used to take up to forty-five minutes for a person to die, unless the rope was exactly in a position to cause a swift delivery from life, which couldn't be done in most cases since the hang man was usually some clutz hired from the lower classes. No way a villainess is going to be hung by two injured people with broken hands and die under sixty seconds, they'd have had to have had that scene last at least 12 minutes long, and hold up the weight of a full grown woman with your bare hands is impossible too. Plus it'd be a lot more gruesome and more bile.
Realism is a tricky subject, because if it had no unrealism or surrealism too it - and my favourite parts about Tarantino are the unrealistic, surreal parts, like when Uma Thurman and John Travolta go on a date and Uma breaks the visual fourth wall or when the hitman fires a round of bullets and completely misses his target at point blank range. Pulp Fiction then ends on a note that's about REDEMPTION from violence - about, not taking revenge, but putting aside one's sword of redemption - so the reason Pulp Fiction appeals the most to audiences to this day, I think, is due to the reverse nature of how Samuel L. Jackson starts off as a vengeful bible-quoting killer, then ends up a pacifist who forgives his enemies for robbing him in a store.
It's as though the characters of Tarantino, were stuck within the limitations of the speech about vengeance of one's brothers that S.L. Jackson uses to be cold blooded looking before he kills his victims. ''With furious anger''' and with ''great indignation'', Tarantino's later characters can only tell how to ''reign great vengeance upon those who would spoil my brothers'' and people of ''wicked'' designs.
Samuel J. Jackson's hitman character, managed to transcend though, and see the absurdity of his own anger in the end, making him the most developed of all of Tarantino's literary creations.
@TimmyTheTinman I don't think there is a proper approach. If there was one, it would need to be agreed upon by a ruling majority or enforced by a ruling minority. To think in things like right/wrong, proper/improper is simplistic and not applicable to the nature of my post. Its not a claim or decleration of some position im taking. I described human behaviour in my post. You responded as if you saw it as a challenge and that I need to explain or prove something. I don't think you understood anything I typed.
I arrived in the US on July 4th, 2002. I was freshly 5 years old and had flown into JFK with a chaperone to meet my mom in the US. I remember the chaperone being really irritable during the flight and I thought maybe I did something to upset him. I started school that September in Kips Bay and my first year of school in the US will always be memorable because of the degree to which I had to adjust. I was a healthy child that was suddenly struck by persistent respiratory issues. I remember having to do terrorism drills in which my entire Kindergarten class had to run into the coat closet and shield our heads with our hands. I didn’t really develop the context to understand why until I asked a classmate who told me “a big building fell last year.” Now as an adult I realize all those breathing problems were probably a result of “the pile” downtown. My chaperone’s irritability was likely because we were flying into JFK, and the reason I didn’t understand my classes terrorism drills is because NONE of the adults I knew spoke about 9/11, even when prompted.
1999, 2001, 2008, 2016, & 2020 were important years signaling the end of Postmodernism as the dominant cultural lens. Edit: Forgot to include 1999 (due to C-bine). More info below, thanks.
Is your handle a play on Got2bReal by any chance? I saw the Mariah avatar and immediately thought of the parody youtube series Got2bReal, starring "Mariah and Whitney and Patty and Aretha and many more divas. If you havent seen it yet; you should start looking it up. Lowbrow entertainment but still fun. and did I mention Mariah was is in it?
What happened in 2008,2016?
@@PM-vv3uc 2008 - global economic recession
2016 - Trump winning the US election for the first time
@@KuyaBJLaurenteno wonder why life never felt the same after 2016 for me
some countries have yet to recover from what happened in 2008-2011
Your voice is so soothing and the script you prepare makes the content so interesting to listen to🥰
That’s so sweet! Thank you so much for watching!
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I was just thinking the same thing. A lovely voice 🙂
Exactly! My same thoughts! Great voice and content.
Absolutely love her voice
When 9/11 happened I just turned 4, growing up it always made me sad that people where depressed around my birthday. As a kid I never really understood why it was so important that some building on the other side of the country fell down. As I got older my mother told me about how emotionally impacted everyone was and that she was terrified we would be attacked again. She always tried to make my birthday feel special and joyful, but I still remember the tv just showing images of devastation and lose.
Not me thinking you were saying you just turned four *this year*
edited just for you lmao
I was only a year old when 9/11 happened, my sister’s dad told us that he rushed to pick us from daycare because we live next a large military base and he wasn’t sure if our city was next.
Years later that same military base became the site of a mass shooting. I remember our teacher telling us the buses were running late and everyone just had to sit in the hallway and wait. Even after we got home at 7 pm no one would tell us what was happening.
I mention this because to me it reflects that same feeling for me of adults trying navigate traumatic events around of kids.
The fort hood ones? I remember those! I was at Fowler Elementary when it happened
My mom was doing in and out processing at the building where the pew pews happened - I was literally terrified because they scrambled the phones and no one could call. My entire family was watching the news and panicking and I couldn’t do anything. Remember the car checks you used to pray you got skipped because they literally took forever taking every little bit of trash out your trunk 😭 what a time to be alive.
@@Yasmeenabeena they kept us at the school for awhile before they got the all-clear. And yes, I remember those!
Not so fun fact- the gun place where both shooters got there guns from is still open unfortunately
@@VeraelyseWhy is that unfortunate? Did the gun shop worker not give them the guns legally?
@ i just kinda find it weird that both Fort Hood shooters got their guns from there
I love that this video exists. I was in 2nd grade when 9/11 happened and it's always fascinated me how abrupt the culture shift was. I always tell people if they want a real little snapshot into the Vibes of 2001 before 9/11, watch the film Josie & The Pussycats. Something about that movie just perfectly encapsulates the pop culture mindset before everything flipped.
Hey! I was in 1st grade on 9/11. I was 5, but turning 6 at the end of the month. I kinda wish I had memory of before 9/11. I can only remember watching preschool kid shows and those had happy vibes and aesthetics, but those are preschool shows… lmao. It’s cool to know someone near my age can remember because I feel that maybe I can actually “see” what you’re talking about.
I understand and believe older people, but it’s said that a lot of people who were little kids around then, and I’m not referring to toddlers, don’t remember at all or much of that day. I remember it, because I live close to NY, but I didn’t know what was going on and didn’t know if 9/11 until a year or so later…
Omg yes I agree. I love that movie lol and although it wasn’t well received at the time, it was ahead of its time imo with its message
I LOVE that film.
@@kaleyjoplinRAWRRthere is a video on hear which is an analysis of that film and discusses how the trailer for that movie ruined the success of the movie at the box office. Had the trailer been better more people would of went to see it!
My middle school was 15 minutes away from The Pentagon. I was in school watching the Towers on fire. Then the plane crashed into the Pentagon. Our school shook because of the impact. My aunt worked at the Pentagon and my dad was supposed to have an interview there. Thank God they both were not at the building. I've seen in real time how life America went from being happy, bright, and carefree to everything being stressful, paranoid, and depressing.
In reference to gen z's memeification of 9/11- in my experience, it's very reactionary. Growing up, every year on 9/11 you have teachers in schools spend So Much Time trying to impress upon you what a tragedy this event was. They show you videos of the towers burning, people jumping, and they make you listen to families last calls with their loved ones. Teachers would sit there and cry and tell you where they were on 9/11. And... yes, it's tragic. But you can't help but feel a certain bitterness and annoyance that you were shown these graphic videos at such a young age just because other people lived through it. At the same time, as you grow you start to realize the disgusting crimes the U.S. has justified doing with 9/11. And it just becomes clear that 9/11 is such a small drop in the bucket of misery, with much of that misery being committed by the U.S. So in response to these feelings, people make fun of the tragedy. 🤷♀️ Also, but I think this goes without saying, there's a shock-value factor used in a lot of the memes
And people that do that are stupid no matter the supposed justification.
Simpleton take
@@apilolomi That's fine if you think that. I'm just explaining the psychology I've seen behind it, not taking any moral stance.
Gen Z is so reactionary and contrarian, you could reverse psychology them in 2 seconds flat to hate the idea of breathing air.
Oh so basically certain individuals are kind of heartless and don’t have compassion even when it comes to tragedies
4-20-99 thru 9-11-01 is probably a whole nother hour of content. Crazy 18 months
What else happened?
@@BillyBobbyBuchercolumbine
@@BillyBobbyBucher and Y2K
Unfortunately February 2020 - (so far) September 2024 has been several times crazier in terms of historic events that affected us all, shifting culture, political polarization and extremism, economic changes, tragic loss of life and a new world taking form at a rapid pace.
All I wish for is a decade that is as boring and dull as possible in terms of nothing happening. Even if I don’t think that will be the case and things only getting even crazier.
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I think you have recency bias. But its plausible despite that you're right
People talk about how music immediately changed after 9/11. The curtains instantly dropped on all the boy bands, girl groups, and "bright and futuristic" Max Martin bubblegum pop that defined the Y2K era, the moment the clock struck 8:46 on that fateful September morning. Willa Ford's "I wanna be bad" was the last big "Y2K pop" song that got big before everything changed (Posh Spice tried to keep Y2K pop going after September with her solo debut, but it was all too late and that album wasn't well-recieved)
Omg I feel like this also coincided with me starting to get frustrated as pop singers became more sexualized. Like no hate to them if they wanted to do that, but many groups like Dream were forced to get a sexier look despite their explicit resistance to that. 😢 I felt like I suddenly couldn’t watch music videos or listen to pop without my mom yelling at me for it being too inappropriate!
Yeah I remember there was a singer named Melissa Lefton who was supposed to be kind of like Britney, or rather the anti version of her. She was signed with Jive too, home to Britney and *NSYNC etc. Her lyrics were a bit quirky and dark and had that bubblegum pop sounds that was popular at the time. She was on a few soundtracks at that time so I think she was supposed to launch but then after 9/11 her album was shelved and never released to this day. I always wonder if this was the reason why her album never got released.
I thought these artists were already on their way out/maturing by then?
@@thebatterymill maybe these individual artists, but this comment is saying that 9/11 was the ultimate nail in the coffin for the public not being as interested in that genre as a whole anymore
I was born in 2007. I never experienced 9/11 myself, nor had any family members or family friends involved in the attack. But my family lived across the river in New Jersey, they saw the smoke from their house, they had friends who lost people, they had jobs near the towers. I never stepped foot in the twin towers, let alone new York city, but the memory of it stained the America I grew up in.
I’m Mexican and I remember my dad picked me and my brother up from school cause he thought ww3 had started and since Mexico is so close to the US he thought we were in immediate danger… he was so incredibly distressed. My brother was in a catholic school and he told me that priests entered every classrooms to announce what had happened and asked everyone to pray together for the victims
Lmaoooooo my mom sent us to school 😂
Weirdly enough, it feels like something changed even for a non-American. I was 6 at the time, I have a clear image of watching TV that day as my father was glued to it, but I didn't really pay attention, it was just something happening on TV. I also remember the invasion of Iraq, and the subsequent years when news of devastation in the Middle East became a daily thing, every day there were 100s of deaths in some explosion or other. I specifically remember the feel of the world changing around that time for me, 2003 onward.
For a short while, I was really scared it would happen to my country, a North African country where we had two huge attacks, one in my city in a place I'd been to many many times. My brother was out that day and I remember my mother seeing the news and panicking, but he was alright. I was convinced this would only get worse. Thankfully it didn't, but then the fear turned into apathy. The death and devastation on TV became a routine thing, it wasn't only the world changing, but the way it was portrayed. Fear sells. We started being exposed to so much information, so much faster. The world just felt different, you looked at other people different, you thought about the future differently. Can't go back now.
We had old relics from the 90s at home, VCRs, cassette tapes, old magazines. I'd often just go find them, and look at them for no reason, it just felt so bizarre as it brought me back to that time when I used to be so excited about how amazing the future would be, how technology would make the world a better place. I really miss it. Just wanted to share. It can feel very US-centric to say the world changed after 9/11, but it really did, it wasn't just about two buildings. The consequences of it directly lead to much more devastation. Unfortunately, the US' reaction was exactly what Bin Laden hoped for, I just think he didn't expect the effects to be so far-reaching. I hate how a single man's ambitions can change the course of history for the worst, time after time.
You tube has a plethora of video essays at this point, the majority of which are probably subpar, to be honest, but this was absolutely phenomenal and didn't even require super flashy visuals or editing. Good job!
when i was a kid, my favorite show was bear in the big blue house, and one of the episodes that stuck with me the most was the two-part story ‘welcome to woodland valley’. in it, a tree falls onto their local library and the children are devastated because it was a safe place for them, so they volunteer to help and clean up the mess and, in the process, create a sense of community that will stay strong during difficult situations like these. i wasn’t born in the us so the events of 9/11 barely affected my life, especially as a toddler, but i watched it again recently and the allegory is so clear. not only did the episodes come out almost exactly a year after the event, but bear (the protagonist) really serves as a mentor for the children watching it, dealing with their confusion with calm and grace. he’s basically a 90s mr rogers (who’s also a bear).
man this was excellent, I was four years old that day and my parents did a damn good job at hiding what was happening from me. I wasn’t able to really observe what was changing or what shifted in the world back then, and it’s content like this that I obsess over as I’m now 27
Dude same! I was four as well and I don’t have any memories from that day at all. I was probably happily playing in my room, enjoying the unexpected day off from Kindergarten while my parents were glued to the tv in the next room. I was a sensitive kid so I don’t blame them, but now I’m in the same boat as you: fascinated by videos like this that analyze the effect 9/11 had on American culture.
same (1997 babies rise up)! i only remember 2 brief moments from that day, i was absolutely not aware of what was happening in the world on 9/11. i’m glad my mom put on a teletubbies tape in the VHS for me and kept me away from live TV.
i think we’re the last age group that semi remembers 9/11, which is crazy to think about.
I was also (almost) 4 at the time (what’s up fellow ‘97ers lol). Obviously didn’t understand what was happening but I remember my parents’ fear and the immediate aftermath
20:22 that chart makes me so sad :( grew up musIim american & people were throwing raw bacon at our local mosque the day after :(
and i live in a “liberal” area (seattle)
This is a wonderfully researched essay. I was too young to really understand the events of 9/11 at the time, but grew up in this pop culture atmosphere. This really puts it all in context.
I was 8 when it happened. I remember walking into the living room and there was no light in the room except the glow of the TV. I remember seeing both my parents sobbing in a blue light. they didn't see me there. so then I turned to look at what they were looking at and I was confused bc it looked like an action movie. My dad shaved his mustache and everyone thought he was hispanic. I remember my parents telling me to stop correcting people and confirm that he was hispanic...I was told to lie and i didn't understand why. Things weren't explained to me until I was 12.
Shut up
You wrote this like a book. Very enjoyable read!
i was 3 years old when 9/11 happened. it’s actually one of the first memories i have. i remember my mom having the news on all day and crying a lot. i tried to ask her what was wrong, and she didn’t know how to explain it to me
Thank you for such a thoughtful look into media post 9/11. The events can honestly cause me anxiety to this day, but this was a really intriguing and somehow cozy? look into the way media changed. Sometimes TH-cam really nails the recommendation. Keep up the great work :)
Well said
I was in Upstate NY when 9/11 happened. I was in my first couple days of school for the year in the computer lab and I was the first person who logged on and saw on the MSN home page and immediately ran without the teacher's permission straight to the principal's office to tell him what was going on. I then ran to my best friend's class pulled him out, also without permission and we called our parents to come get us. We knew it would be a little while before our parents could come so we grabbed a tv out of the A/V room rolled it into the computer lab and got it on about 2 mins before the second plane hit. I'm a history and news nerd so I knew the second I'd seen the first plane hit on a bright sunny day what was going on.
The media wasn't allowed to speculate on air. It wouldn't have been professional to do so, but I knew what it was. Terrorism was a huge talking point in the country around that time. My parents ended up picking both me and my friend up and we left a good 30 mins before anyone else but our school sent all the kids home early that day and the school was closed down by 11:30am. Most kids in my school were already on their way home when the north tower finally collapsed. It's the most vivid memory of my teen years. More vivid than my first kiss, my prom anything 'normal' about life as a teenager.
I remember the movies, music and other forms of art that were taken out of rotation on radio,tv and in theaters due to sensitivities surrounding 9/11. If a movie, music video or show had an image of the twin towers, or airplanes crashing or being hijacked anything in the realm of what happened on 9/11 you didn't see it for at least 6 months.
I also live in Upstate New York. In the capital region. I was supposed to have a dental appointment that day. Was in 7th grade art class at the time. Didn't get told what was going on until at least noon.
Got pulled out of school anyways and saw the news. I channel flipped just to make sure i was really seeing what i was seeing.
It was on every channel. Ive never experienced that before.
Now years later, ive been able to see videos of footage that people got with their video cameras on the street during that day. And even though it was 23 years ago, it's like i was there and it was happening now.
hi! Me and my father are New Yorkers and he has a little bit of a story to share talking about Post-9/11 culture in the weeks and following months after the attacks. He was at the trade center that day and had to be evacuated and walked for miles back up to his home in the Bronx. He told me recently about how the week after 9/11, he had not gone back into Manhattan. But when he had went clubbing the following Monday after the attacks, he felt a unique sense of guilt even being out and being happy after such a horrific event had happened to his city. He told me about how when the club shut down at around 5 AM the following day, the crowd he had partied with went outside the club and watched an FDNY station being lit with candles and photographs. The crowd began to weep of course and it was a very somber moment after a night of partying. He explained how he felt so gut wrenched by the fact he had just spent the night partying at a club less than 10 blocks away from Ground Zero. He told me that experience was one of many that shaped New York into a very depressive place during those days and months after 9/11. While most of America tried to spend and go back to normal to cope with the attacks, New York didn't really get to any normalcy until Early 2002, and even then there was this huge backdrop of there being a hole in Manhattan and "God Bless The FDNY/Troops/NYPD". It was awkward for him for many years and even when we're in Lower Manhattan nowadays it's still somewhat rough for him. 9/11 changed culture forever, and it changed New Yorker Culture for a long while too.
9/11 is something that we have never forgotten. It is also something we have never moved on from.
it still kinda sad, when i saw billboard with mariah`s "glitter" when back of that billboard was towers on fire
off topic but the sound of your voice is SO relaxing. like full asmr. regardless, fantastic video. i'm a post-9/11 baby and it's so interesting to have someone verbalize this feeling that a lot of folks like me have that we were slightly too late.
looking back, The Chicks were right. i was 12, this year im finally taking deep dive into 9/11 this video really frames what was going on
The Chicks might have been right, but America ostracized them in a manner that had not been seen since Sinead O'Connor. Like Sinead, their careers were over in an instant. Like Sinead, Natalie's actions on that evening could also be considered the height of stupidity, hubris, and narcissism. First, nobody cares what you think, Natalie (and Sinead, RIP). Second, we live in a cruel, unforgiving world, a world of incredible hypocrisy. But if you are taking in millions of dollars from generally poor country folk who lay down their money at your concerts - while you are briefly married to a
erstwhile TV star - you do NOT say that George W Bush is on the wrong end of a war.
I was 12 too. Watched live on tv in Jr high.
i was only two when 9/11 happened. i grew up with a lot of pre-9/11 media, but i grew up in a world that was distinctly different, scarier. i've always found the tonal dissonance fascinating.
I just started 4th grade during 9/11, the death of Aaliyah and Left Eye, Mariah Carey’s film debut and emotional breakdown, AJ McLean’s rehab stint, Britney’s iconic snake performance, film debut and split from Justin Timberlake and the debut of the Harry Potter film saga.
I remember coming home from school and watching the news coverage on TV, I couldn’t watch any cartoons or even TRL at the time due to the footage and the aftermath.
Last year, I went to the 9/11 memorial for the first time ever which was an emotional experience.
My prayers condolences go out to those who lost their loved ones at the World Trade Center ❤🤍💙🙏🏽
I was not born to witness 9/11 as it unfolded, but my parents were present on that day and they recall the sheer terror from it. My father’s part of the story (i had to ask people i know what they felt during the day of the attacks) stuck out to me the most because he had a friend that was up in those towers on that day, and the last they ever heard from him was by phone call. Ever since hearing that story it really changed me and how I view things, how much it affected the people who knew the victims.
I grew up on fear, I grew up on stuff that I never thought would hurt me this badly, despite how lovely it felt growing up in the 2000s as a child. It’s hard to watch films like Oliver and Company that still have a shot of the twin towers as they used to be, it’s like a constant grim reminder of what used to be.
The world never changed.
A fascinating look at this! I was a senior in college (and nearly 21) when the Towers got hit and it really was a surreal day. Classes got canceled (which never happens) and we all spent the day huddled around our TVs and trying to contact relatives. Pop culture wise, I did watch 24 at the time and I know there was concern about the depiction of a small personal plane hitting a building in one of the episodes. Later on, I've noticed that movies and TV set in the past (or depicting time travel) tend to want to highlight the impact of said past / time travel by panning up and showing the NY skyline with the Twin Towers intact, as like a gut punch for those of us who lived through it.
I had just turned 18 and was a freshman. Watched the second plane huddled around a little TV with other coworkers until they closed our mall. They were all scurrying to find a PA beverage store still open.
I kept changing majors and taking our extra loans because what's it matter post-nuclear or anthrax annihilation? Thought for a long time the skyline reflected filming timelines... not purposeful edits.
@Dani_SB in the beginning, yes, but there were a few times it was purposeful. Life on Mars, for example, where a guy gets sent back to 1970s NY purposefully edited in the Towers.
I myself went to grad school because the job market scared me. That was a mistake
And Aaliyah had just passed away two weeks before….it was such a sad time. I remember no artist wanted to be on any type of aircraft!
i wasn't even 3 months old when 9/11 happened so i have no memory of it. but my mum was still on mat leave and she was watching live with kelly and regis and didn't know what was happening but she knew something was off because they kept looking distressed/looking off camera. eventually she flipped to the news and saw the live coverage and immediately thought "what have i brought my child into". i think about that every time i see coverage of 9/11 and i still get chills.
You realised all this at three months old? how do you even remember your mum watching Kelly and Regis and what she was thinking? And are you british by any chance? I always thought americans said 'mom' and not 'mum'. We have no Kelly and Regis in the UK and youtube live didnt exist. europe found out late in the afternoon. Time difference. we wouldnt be watching Kelly and Regis, we watched the late afternoon news. So is your mum a brit living in the US or are you making stuff up?
@@GullibleTarget so there’s this fun thing called me having a conversation with my mum about 9/11 where she tells me her recollection of it. and im Canadian but live in the UK lmao
@@sydewingsame, I was only 2 months old which is crazy to think about.
I was born in 1999, so I was alive when 9/11 happened but not old enough to have any real solid memories associated with it. My older sister who’s a millennial remembers watching it in real time on the news and getting pulled out of school, but for me it’s almost one of those terrible stories that I have no real attachment too.
I did live through and remember immediate pop culture ramifications like oddly patriotic everything and discourse about the war in Iraq but that’s about it.
That being said, this was a super interesting watch for me! Thank you!
I was born almost 6 years after 9/11 (my birthday is this weekend) so I’ve spent my entire life in a post 9/11 world. Everything I’ve ever known is because of those events. Until 3 years ago I didn’t know of a world where we weren’t sending soldiers to die in Afghanistan, I can’t imagine not having extreme security at airports, I never got to see the twin towers against the New York skyline. Every year since 1st grade we have watched the news coverage. I have seen the first responders run into the buildings and never return. I have seen people jump from the towers, opting for s*icide over burning alive. I have seen the towers fall over and over again. I’m practically desensitized to it because it’s all I’ve ever known. I’ve lived in a world surrounded by fear, it’s all I’ve ever known and it’s probably all I ever will know. I wish that I could have experienced a pre 9/11 world, even for only a few minutes. I wish I could know what peace felt like instead of fear
Believe me. There never was peace. There were two world wars, the Korean war, the Vietnam War, the cold war, the Cuban Missile Crisis, the Gulf War, the threat of nuclear war ever since WWII, China invading Tibet, etc., etc. We never felt safe.
I agree with this omg. I was also born 6 years after 9/11. I have never felt pride in our government or our country, I've never felt safe. Especially in the 2020s, I've never once felt hope. People think I'm a pessimist, but I beg to differ. I just look at the world im going to be an adult in and I see how horrible it is. Everyone hates everyone, inflation is crazy high, I'll probably never own a house, art of any form is disrespected and possibly being taken by AI (i want to be an actor and music producer). What is there to look forward to?
I just want to crawl into every pre 9/11 video I see and relish in it. A time where everyone was truly happy. Everything looked so fun and peaceful.
I was born on 9/11/2007!!
@@radiogaga3501 you’re less than two weeks older than me 😂
Yeah,same too,born two years after 9/11 I wish I knew a world before 9/11,instead like us all we grew up in a time that wasn’t so peaceful,and I really feel it after Covid which seems to have changed everything for me in my lifetime,I hope we can get some good times soon.
I was born right before 9/11; my mom was still in the hospital after having a c-section. I was the first child, and she said she just looked at my dad and asked him what sort of world had they just brought a child into.
You’re the first born after 9/11?
None of the cultural touchstones mentioned here were that important to me at the time. I was a teenager and I remember I had plans to go see ‘Amelie’ which had just begun screening in my area. My friends and I postponed the outing since ‘terrorism happened.’ It was very weird times.
I remember the headline The Onion had shortly after. "America Longs to Go Back to Caring About Stupid Shit". Pop culture didn't exactly die that day, but it did go into a coma.
The late night host part is very heartbreaking. It really reminds you that in that moment before we were anything else, we were New Yorkers facing a devastating loss in our community.
Thank you. I'm French, not aged 30 yet, immensely immersed in popular mainstream american media and so: with this, you provided answers for the immediate curiosity I have this season that I'd been looking to satiate. Great structure, had my attention the entire time, I prefer calm speech like yours, enviable eloquence. Must have spent a long time researching. I admire and applaud you. Net benefit for intellectually curious and nostalgic people
Help me understand why are other countries obsessed with America? Especially since we do not show interest elsewhere
@@shayhill568 its like watching a train wreck, you cant look away.
You say "enviable eloquence," but I'd say your comment was very eloquent itself!
French and under 30? That's a double whammy.
It’s so weird being born shortly after these events. Growing up it was just one of those things I knew happened, but was just hard to comprehend what all was lost. I knew on a more fundamental level it was sad and tragic due to the loss of life, but the sort of optimism and innocence of pre 9/11 American is something that even now I find so hard to imagine. Especially with events like the 2008 recession happening while I was growing up and more recently the pandemic, I feel I’ve never truly experienced a time where America wasn’t in some state of jeopardy
Interesting fact: in the movie Artificial Intelligence that was released a few months before 9/11 is a scene depicting a future New York partly flooded, but with the Twin Towers still being there.
That movie was also a tragedy
How is that even remotely interesting?
This is my very first video of yours that I’ve seen and as someone who was born a few years after the 9/11 attacks, this is an insanely interesting and informative video! It’s so interesting how one event was so significant that it changed the a world that I’ve never known.
wish you would've touched on video games, what call of duty and the military shooter genre did to the minds of teen boys is immense and it also cemented many tropes into the emerging video game market in general that we still see
The 2004 Battlestar Galactica series comes to mind. It was like a metaphor for the war on terror. The series got a lot of praise. It's one of my favorites.
I was a freshman in high school on 9/11. A decade later, I was in Afghanistan. Crazy how life changes.
A decade later American imperialism was defeated in Afghanistan
Crazy how life changes
Yes please cover how Gen Z memes 9/11, I know our govt isn’t perfect and used this event to create a war that wasn’t legit and to be Islamophobic. But also we shouldn’t minimize how tragic 9/11 was either - a gen z girlie
so true!!! Those jokes get old at some point too, sometimes I believe younger generations are less serious about 9/11 because in a way there have been so mwah other tragedies “worse” (I don’t wanna compare ofc) than 9/11, and more recent. So maybe they see the day as a thing from the past
As a millennial, it’s not just Gen Z… the memes have been around since at least the late 2000s from various ages. On forums, people used to joke about their cat or a news story and link to a photo of the twin towers. What really minimizes and damages the tragedy is all the garbage conspiracy theories that have arisen that are hell bent on rewriting history/excusing the actual terrorists.
@@daniidanboyI'm pretty sure gen Z is so desentized to the tragedy because we were exposed to it so young. I remember sitting down with classmates in kindergarten or something and drawing 9/11 memorial pictures etc. After awhile it all becomes a blur and you become disconnected from the actual thing when you're exposed to it like that
@@neru1584to a degree. I was born in 88, so I was a pre teen when 9/11 happened and remember the day relatively well and the after math. But I was also born after huge events like the JFK assassination, which really had the same kind of impact 9/11 did to those alive that experienced both. I never saw memes or jokes about his murder. Same goes with probably the biggest US terrorist event of the 1990’s, then OKC bombing, which I don’t remember at all.
Current younger Generations are so inundated with media and info I think they become numb to it free a while and lose a base moral filter for what’s right and wrong. There is also the anonymity aspect of the media that lets people be completely unfiltered and get away with it, so they try to do or say the most shocking things to garner likes and attention. That’s not healthy long term. Of course this kind of behavior has been happening in older generations too. I sympathize with the generations after me because they essentially have had to live online.
As a millennial, thank you lol.
That day is almost indescribable to me.
This is the first video of yours I’ve watched and I’m SO impressed.
This is the content I come to TH-cam for.
Thank you for an incredibly informative and well made video.
wasn't expecting this to be an ASMR video about 9/11
Couldnt listen to it. ASMR is like a mosquito climbing into my ear and reading a bedtime story, to me. The action is sweet but the execution is very annoying and earpiercing. Wrote a whole rant about it. She really doesnt need to hold the mic that close.
It's certainly one thing I miss about the pre-9/11 world: the absence of nonsense internet fads and culture.
Remember folks - the water starts circling faster the closer we get to the drain!
Looool
@@CB-ke7eqASMR isn’t a fad lol it’s been a thing for more than a decade now.
@@GullibleTargetmiserable comment lmao
Great video ! I was 27 on 9/11 with a 9 month old daughter and over the years explaining the events of the day and how it felt to watch it unfold live on tv was difficult because even though she was alive when it happened, she of course doesn’t remember it. I also have a daughter born in 2005 and it’s just different for them because they didn’t experience it like I did, yea they know it was horrific and sad but they’ll never feel connected to that day they way I do…. It’s just a weird thing.. like my mom being 14 when JFK was killed, I grew up knowing what happened and seeing the footage but I wasn’t connected to that event like she was ❤
loved this video!!! , super interesting topic. my chemical romance was born after the events of 9/11 and the song they wrote: skylines and turnstiles is such a honest depiction of the hopelessness people felt after 9/11
this was so good!!
9/11 and the impact it had on America is something I love to research. This video is so perfect in every way, thank you for making this!
THIS, this is what I was looking for... It feels really weird how relaxed and cool everything seems to be from 70s to 90s and well, as someone who enjoys a lot of retro music (particularly vaporwave and citypop), its always those towers in the backgrounds and art, the symbol of American optimism and cultural influence around the globe. Shaping the business model from which stemed the japanese salaryman and other american-native cultural stereotypes around the world. I never lived that era since I'm a 2000s kid, but the change in tone around the world is palpable on media and records alone.
NOT sure if it's been mentioned but, the Twin Towers can STILL be seen in Die Hard 3.
I’m like 2 minutes in and I just have to say that you have the most soothing voice! I feel both relaxed and fully engaged with what you are saying and that never happens, I can’t wait to watch the rest of your videos!
This was such a great video! In a couple years we need a deep dive into the impact Covid-19 had on pop culture!
I attended a seminar called "The cultural impact of 9/11" at a German university in 2011. I'm 6 minutes into the video and feel like I already learned more than in the entirety of that seminar.
Oh man, I needed to BOOST my volume to hear this. Please up the volume a hair
you can try using a headset but the voice will crawl into your ear. she uses ASMR setting for some reason
Fantastic video essay! It's so interesting to me as someone who was too young to remember where I was on 9/11 but old enough to grow up in the immediate cultural aftermath, to see us enter an era where we can really take a look back and see the impacts over the past two decades.
Very well done. I think you manage to walk the ridge line between criticism and compassion with the necessary tact that some creators lack.
Phenomenal video instant sub. You deserve more views this was so well researched, and really captured what it was like after. I was 8 during 9/11 so I particularly appreciated the coverage of the kids/teen media.
Incredibly niche and incredibly well done video essay. I was at the age right on the cusp of where you either remember 9/11 or you don't. I was in the first grade when 9/11 happened, I remember our teacher encouraging conversation about the topic for the days following the attack. She would ask us what we had seen on tv about it? She would then do her best to answer our questions in a way that we could understand, teachers really are incredible! Now as an adult every September I always get an intense hyper fixation on the subject and this was the perfect video. It was educational enough to fulfill my 9/11 hyper fixation while also providing a unique take on the overnight changes in pop culture. Great job on the video and research!
You’d think after 9/11 music & entertainment would have become more serious & socially conscious, but it went the opposite. They doubled down on the shallow, materialistic & stupid.
Im an 06 baby, but i have a fascination with pre 9/11 culture. Looking how i grew up compared to some raised in the 90s is mind boggling. Changes in culture used to be slow. My parents have an age gap but were raised similar in some ways. Hell i can see similarities between my dad and my grandparents. But me compared to them? Completely different
I was 11 when 9/11 happened. I'd seen disasters on TV before but nothing like this, it was all consuming for weeks on end, and I'm not even American. The scariest part was the victims looked just like my parents (they both had office jobs). I live in a small city without skyscrapers but if I visit a large city I feel absolutely terrified. I can't look at a tall building without seeing a plane flying into it. I feel scared watching planes too. I'm not scared of flying, I just feel a sense of terror seeing planes move through the air.
Why do you qualify the actions of the Flight 93 passengers with the word potentially at 16:55? How could the passengers retaking a hijacked plane be interpreted as anything BUT the successful thwarting of another attack?
It ain't that deep lol
The passengers of United 93 didn’t breach the cockpit until like a second before the plane hit the dirt, unfortunately. The terrorists heard them coming through, and knew that they’d stop them. So they ditched the plane instead, which was the protocol if any of the hijackers couldn’t get to their destination. This is substantiated by the cabin’s flight recorder obtained from the black box after the crash.
It’s sad, because the passengers had a plan. They even knew who would fly the plane down to land it.
@@Sky-dz1gjIt's disrespectful to the lives of the passengers to minimise their heroism and bravery. They didn't potentially stop an attack, they definitely did.
You mentioned that Gen Z has only recently started to find humor in the tragedy in the last 2-3 years, but I distinctly remember people joking about it in like middle school, and I'm old enough to have completed a bachelor's!
It goes way back.
I rarely comment on YT videos, but wanted to thank you for putting such a thoughtful video around such a tragic day and how it changed the world. I am from North Jersey and I was 8 years old when 9/11 happened... so its close to home for me. I remember that Express Yourself series on Disney channel and remembering thinking as a CHILD: "Wow, this seems odd to me"
Anyway, thank you again for such a great video. Can't wait to watch more videos from you!
this video was really well put together
LOOOL there is no war in ba sing se really was the approach ...I love this video and the overall commentary and tone are spot on. great work! i'm from new york and was a kid when 9/11 happened but sometimes it still feels like yesterday. every september i find myself watching videos and documentaries about the day because i was alive and i saw it but i was also a child and couldn't comprehend the scale of the tragedy so there's so much to learn....it's weird to think how much propaganda and censorship there's been in the last 20 plus years because of that day...
oh my god i’m so happy this got thrown at me by the algorithm! subscribing bc you present in a great and compelling way, and you have a soothing speaking voice. cannot believe you’re only at 2k!
A lot of scenes in "Love actually" also deal with the aftermath of 9/11 but from a more distant, European perspective, which if you watch it now during the holidays seems wild.
There is the intro, narrated by Hugh Grant as the prime minister while we see scenes of families an friends reuniting at an airport, basically with the message that love wins, no matter where you are from (members of some families wearing hijabs in those scenes, which back then was usually rarely the case).
Then that kid who is in love with the American exchange student who has to get past all sorts of security measures which were newly implemented at airports after 9/11. The extent of these measures is also somewhat ridiculed in those scenes because many perceived them as mere obstacles.
And finally, if you've ever wondered why everybody in Britain cheers on the prime minister for publically sticking it to the American president out of what was actually a personal vendetta in his pro England speech: Many people in Western Europe felt that the reasons for the war in Iraq were fabricated and they did not want to send their own into this war. European leaders however opted to join Bush's "war on terror". The public's reaction to Hugh Grant's speech (England is strong and no longer will be bullied into action etc etc) is a reflection of that sentiment.
Hugh Grant can drive his little fake fancy McLaren around until it combusts idc say what u will about the Democratic Party of the USA could u imagine if we also had lib Dems like that, I mean u probably can’t it’s a weird system here idk u get me tho like reverse 1992 effect on every US election state and federal ur reform party is like the heart of the abyss right bro rip British ppl that sucks but here it was just like the radical centrist whatever tf Ross Perot party but even he was like gahh we NEED to save the POWs left in Nam! He like televised it u wanna talk like I’m in the 9/11 subculture type people did they have those POW/MIA flags everywhere or just Long Island/other NY suburbs or were those in New York city itself too I’d guess I only lived on LI as a little kid I have no clue tbh but they were on every single building basically I think Perot started that POW/MIA as a loose movement or whatever it was that was where like Northrop Grumman started ironically the one place I remember not leaning into it was cradle of aviation right by the islanders arena like massive plane/spacecraft museum that was pretty swag of them but it was like empty a lot idk if they survived ngl unless I just don’t remember it at all and that was 2008 sorry for the manifesto Newcastle Newcastle go team Newcastle United a joyous beam (of victory)!! I love soccer and the Newcastle Utd side on FOX networks! Hugh Grant set me off like a sleeper agent can’t stand him bro I do in fact know what a film is I just hate when English people say it cuz what on earth would you even sign up for then I mean they’re just outright there to compete with hobby lobby and the Taliban in plunder it’s not like there’s really any pretense there they only even sent the ginger prince for the found footagey pr clip
you had me a little worried the mcr 9/11 timeline would not come up at all lmao (i’m obsessed with how many things can be tracked to gerard way being there, it’s actually kinda insane)
This makes for a really nice complimentary piece to Lindsay Ellis' Loose Canon episodes on 9/11 as there's a lot of overlapping examples that have been used in the scripts. However, you have the hindsight of over 20 years, whereas Lindsay's two parters were maybe only 16 or 17. It's still really cool to see the retrospectives, regardless of creator.
E: And you shout it out anyways! Love it when I'm on the same incidental wavelength of a pre recorded one sided conversation. 😂 I will, however, shout out her video on the music post 9/11 as it was just briefly touched on in your script.
I love your voice and how soft-spoken you are! So much online content nowadays feels like being yelled at so I really appreciate it.
I was 9 in 2001. The teacher told us we were on lockdown and we watched tv. I had never heard of a lockdown in reference to school at that point.
I knew it was a big deal but I didn’t understand the gravity. It’s crazy how this (unfortunately) united the nation for a while.
United in hate, yes.
I could listen to you talk forever ❤ thank you for this
I was in middle school when 9/11 happened and it really did feel like everything changed after that. Things felt pretty miserable after that and the patriotism/jingoism went through the roof, as you mentioned.
I turned 11 on 9/11 and for many years I would always get told "oh! I'm so sorry.." when I'd tell my bday..... it didn't stop until around... past 2015ish?
It was always so weird to me, especially being from the west coast... like, I'm not someone that was affected... other people needed that sympathy/empathy more than me
I had just started my senior year of high school in 2001, so 9/11 and the surrounding events happened during a formative time in my life. I was never a typical consumer of pop culture (I watched very little TV for example), but after the initial shock I do remember being disgusted by the censorship and propaganda that stretched well into the decade. By the the time Bush was out of office there was a lot of pushback in the cultural zeitgeist, but in some circles the jingoism and xenophobia persisted. I remember feeling that there would never be a way for the culture as a whole to fully process it, and I think history has borne that out so far.
Great video!
Great video. You have such a lovely speaking voice!
The thing about 9/11, was that, while 9/11s have happened and will continue to happen across the world - was that took place in a place most people thought was completely 'safe' from war-like mass violence, and that it was one of the first events of this magnitude to be seen by millions live and recorded so thoroughly. A reality check so bizzare and shocking, it literally fried people's brains I think.
incredible video, no notes 👏🏻
i’ve been thinking about this a lot and the cultural impact of 9/11, mostly because i was a toddler at the time and i had no concept of the general culture pre-attack and how things changed. it’ll be interesting to see other major events through this lens in the future.
I was 9 in 2001 and I remember when all the popular artists from that time made a cover of Marvin Gaye’s song in response to 9/11. I feel like I never hear about it anymore but I remember it played on the radio for the rest of that year.