So this is mess up, but exo are a different species all together then human, so are awoken. exo believe in essentially atheist. The humans are faithful and the awoken are essentially and justified agnostic. I'm not going to go into specific details but this is really messed up and way to deep for casual players.
It was so awesome to be able to travel to Felwinter Peak for the first time (for me) and see what it was like. I know not everything was back, but that doesn't matter. Was also cool to fight PvE enemies inside a PvP map. Also, I can't get over how bizarre and odd it is for Rasputin to now sound like Clovis instead of just shrieking Russian like he used to.
Yeah Ana is just casting for an Oscar "i have killed my grand dad" but nop she didn't. I love Destiny and this half measures, it's like the 50-50 booking in WWE, never go one way just stay in the middle and hope of the best.
@@beermarket9971 Well, she didn't transfer the fork back to the main AI so they could fuse back together. Rasputin just deleted the copy of clovis running on the exoframe so Ana/Rasputin killed a copy of Clovis so kind of a dick move that probably erased all the month's worth of memories that clovis had of the helm but since a copy of Clovis is still around he technically didn't die unless you consider the 2 clones of Clovis to be separate people. Like banshee is a very divergent clone of Clovis and is considered a separete person but this copy that had only been disconnected from the main hub for a month probably isn't unique enough to be considered it's own person. Morality becomes weird when people start cloning themselves and then people start killing the clones or the clones start disagreeing with each other.
It bears asking: Are we certain Vlovis wasent already possesed by The Sol Divisive? Destory the Traveler, become a god over the Sol System, await the "Salvation" of The Witness and its Darkness. Sounds less like Clovis was ACTUALLY in control of himself, Ego or no. Now that we booted him...chances are he'll go full-turncoat. "If you WONT be greatful to me, you will learn to FEAR me instead!!!"
I say Clovis has huge ego and a massive god complex. The Witness wouldn't have needed to do anything but instead be drinking their soda and chowing on hot dogs seeing their enemy brought to pieces by the beings it has chosen to bless. It would be funnier and far more sinister that Clovis was doing it of his own volition. Witness be like "Well, that was entertaining".
It makes more sense now why Clovis created the Pillory vaults to trap AI. Rapsutan (because of Ana's training) was diverging from what Clovis wanted him to be
Maybe banshee-44 should pay a visit to the newly awoken Rasputin at the helm.... Seems like a huge miss on Bungie. The ideal family reunion.... Banshee, Elizabeth, Anna and Rasputin
So glad we went to fell welnter Sadly I never played back when this was the story. It’s awesome to get to see it for myself. I’m sure the OGs loved going back to see this huge part of the story come full circle
I don’t think Clovis will get full control of the war sat network, but I bet he gets control of the Seraph station above earth and fires it on the traveler as the big finale to the season. That thing is too precariously placed above us.
I love how after Rasputin beats out clovis. And can rest nice and snug in thr frame he can only worry about Ana. And makes sure through us that she's okay
I was taken aback when Rasputin said, "Forgive me, I am finding myself again." He's never been one to concede or apologize. Looks like he really may be changing from his old "tyrant" ways. Also, I love this week's story progression but I hate that Rasputin has the same VA as Clovis. I hate that man (which means he's done a good job playing a pseudo-villain) and now all I hear when Rasputin speaks is the megalomaniac lmao.
He might progressively change his voice, as he took the systems from Clovis but we know that Rasputin loves iterating... over... and over... and over. Look at Outbreak Prime, then Outbreak Perfected. Or the two different versions of Sleeper Simulant! He could gradually shift his voice over the seasons, if push comes to shove!
@@thisisabackupemail2264true… but unlikely. Using the same VA saves Bungie money. Not tryna hate on Bungie, just stating the obvious I guess. I would also prefer Raspy to have a different voice tbh. I doubt it’ll happen, but we’ll see.
Actually Rasputin only sounds a lot like Clovis in the cutscenes. As I've been playing more Heists he's starting to sound distinctly different, more robotic. I can barely hear Clovis anymore in his voice.
@@infernasI’ve gotten the same vibe. His digitized voice, and it’s echos that overlap, culminate in my ear. Giving Rasputin the conveyance of a deeper, robotic, albeit more emotive, voice.
Finally, Rasputin is awake and with us, he knew about Clovis and his plans, so with that we need to stop him asap, we all know that Ana had no other choices left or just those she was trying to do to wake up Rasputin, but yet still she cloud thought her self that it's not pretty safe to let Clovis near Rasputin, his mind and his weapons Good video as always Evaze👏
Haven’t played destiny 2 in like 2-3 years. This lore is really cool and made me want to go back, and I did, and so much has changed that it feels like joining a movie an hour and a half in, no point to it. I’ve missed a lot of content and story, so I don’t really know what to do or for the most part what is happening. Along with that people who did stay are good and I’m comparatively low level, so pvp is out of the picture too.
at the start of the season my hopes were really low but this really surprised me, can’t say the burnout won’t happen again but this will at least keep me going a bit longer
Somehow, even after having watched this cutscene when it was leaked the first week, the events heretofore and current have managed to actually surprise me somewhat.
I have a feeling Clovis had something to do with the collapse... i just itch whenever i think that he had always played with the darkness and when Rasputin locked him out from his code, all of a sudden, the collapse, but Clovis had a copy of himself in the big head... so no worries there... right? It itches!!! LOL
I’m gonna call it…. End of season concludes by Clovis taking over Rasputin and destroying the traveler only to reveal that the traveler had been a shell cloaking a time jumped star ship that’s being controlled by A.I. created by Past guardians to change this very outcome…. Then walks in Kang the Conqueror
I don't think it's what you think Rasputin now believes he made the wrong choice locking humanity out before the collapse and he said that after he said fellwinters memories were his memories that he could see himself through fellwinters eyes Rasputin called himself a tyrant.... I think that somehow there will be a fraction of the clovis A.I. that wasn't purged from the exo frame and clovis will find a way too rewrite him. Or the last hive God will actually get her hands on clovis Like she was trying too do in the first place and that will sway him too the dark side which gives the witness full control of the exo facilities
The rasputin season before the pyramids arrived was literally rasputins redemption arc. I would say why would they waste all that build up but bungie...
So....can be destroy Cloves now? I mean I've been wanting to do it ever since we found out he was banshee 44 (and I swear if some one says "why did you spoil that!?!" It has been a bit over/under 2 years since we found out.)
I still play, listen, read, and still come to listen to everyone's upload on lore. I'm a little addicted. You, byf, Doctor man Mylen (idr how to spell his name)
old Rasputin lore: *Admayer - Bullet * initiate TWILIGHT EXIGENT protocol !!🧐 new Rasputin lore: i looooove human 😍 old Clovis lore: mega mind level of evil genius!! new Clovis lore: *looney toons outro ost* ibiti ibiti THAT ALL FOLKS, style of villain
I need some here to explain why it's a good idea or better yet choose to have a psycho like Clovis Bray be the voice of a changed Rasputin? Rasputin had his own voice which was amazing and also now is imprinted with Felwinter's code but we gotta hear Clovis' voice 🤔 It would also seem to me that both Ana and Elisabeth would have PTSD from the POS that Clovis was/is and reject hearing that voice esp. Ana who is practically a mother figure to Rasputin. Heck, even Banshee is voiced differently. I've been a fan of Destiny lore for 8 years esp. the Bray legacy/timelines so this really irks me. All this to say, I'm just really bummed that this is the voice of Rasputin, at least for the time being.😪
I wonder if in the conclusion we'll end Clovis by destroying his Ai entirely. A possibility but not too high of a possibility if anything. Also, during the Clovis confrontation, am I the only one who had Ana use finger guns on Clovis, cuz the hand cannon didn't didn't spawn during the scene when I did it.
I still remember when in destiny 1 they wrote that felwinter used the abilities of the titans and the hunters, I remember they said that felwinter used the titan shoulder or that and he had entered the void dimension and came back
I'm still a bit skeptical. When you speak to Rasputin again after talking to Ana on the holo, Rasputin says "Maintain your current modus operandi for now." That's exactly what the Clovis partition said in an earlier mission. Trust but verify if I were Ana or the Vanguard.
OH SAME HERE. The moment Red said that, i became skeptical again. HAHAHAHA. I mean it could be the same thing like how Savathun was out of character when she disguised as Osiris.
Soooo....Red is back, and he speaks normally. Aside from his reversed Russian speech we heard during the Warmind DLC, which translates like : - Bray created the system. But your kind tried to use me as a primitive weapon. Now I'll build my own. I will defend humanity. I am Rasputin, and I've found my purpose.
What if the warmind becomes an exo? Instead of segment, maybe retrieving the segment revives his son but within himself. I mean it wasnt his son in the first place but a sliver of himself.
Bro this would be very bad if Rasputin was actually the liar and we really just messed up by deleting Clovis 💀. I honestly don't trust either of them knowing what happened to Felwinter and the other Iron lords. Even tho Clovis has the wrong ideas on how things should be I actually think he was the good guy in all this.
8:27 that scene im pretty sure is actually in d1 on venus somewhere i remember seeing this in one of the venus campaign missions there was a skeleton along with a destroyed computer with holes in walls/windows/roofs and overrun by nature and eliksni i think it was when we were going after the vex mind to get access into the black garden
Well let's not forget. Clovis isn't dead. He's just kicked out of the exo and back on Europa inside his main body. I can only imagine how pissed he is that even after Ana got resurrected as a guardian, she still hasn't gotten rid of her "Pointless" emotions. And yet, it was the actions she took that literally stopped a dark age from happening ahead of time.
Why wasn't Felwinter's response to Osiris "Have you tried actually going to Neptune? You know, the 3rd most massive planet in the solar system? Big place, maybe if you started actually physically searching for it, instead of helping Clovis, you'd have found it by now"
So after god knows how long. We finally get to formally meet the legendary Warmind Rasputin. Gotta say, he's a rather calm AI considering he's not only named after the craziest Russian to ever live but is also a combat AI capable of wiping out all life on the planet if he wanted to.
You know what would be a twist? If that wasn't Rasputin speaking. For all his ego and grandstanding, Clovis Bray does not seem to me like a man without introspection. If nothing else, a man as mentally gifted as he would see and understand the way other see him and twist that to manipulate others. So him speaking as Rasputin and saying what we want to hear in some gambit to motivate us would fall in line with a 4D chess move that I see him playing. The partition Ana erased was a sort of... distilled version of Clovis, made to be hated and sacrificed. Probably not. But I wouldn't be the least bit surprised.
Is... Is this season building a rivalry between Clovis and Rasputin for the right to be Humanity's Machine God of the Warmind technology? Forget Xivu Arath, I'm getting tickets and popcorn for the Golden Age inheritance battle between maker and machine!
I have a theory. But first bear in mind I don’t expect this to be true, as I have been a bit lacking in keeping with certain parts of the lore. I seem to remember that during the golden age, Clovis had, was it “communications”, or “visions”, of “clarity.” And that this entity, “clarity” was later revealed to be the Darkness. So the first part of my speculations is, that the secrets he admits to the guardian, that he had to keep from his family, were of his said communications with “clarity.” Also the true intent of his plans with the Warmind. ( though this secret is obvious, with the dialogue. ) The second speculation is that the distress call Ana decrypts saying, “they know,” might have been sent to the Witness. ( As the Witness = the Darkness, and Clovis has had communication before. Finally, Clovis becoming a god by using the Warmind to destroy the Traveller, could have been a means to make Clovis a disciple of the Witness. And the new found Godhood, would allow Clovis to force humanity to serve the Witness. Similarly to Eramis and her house of Eliksni, and Xivu Arath and her hive. Please feel free to poke holes in this, and correct me on any errors I’ve made in the lore!
Consider the message was specifically stated to be sent towards the braytech facility on Europa it seems quite obvious it was more the exo body version of Clovis told big head facility Clovis with that. As for Clovis going disciple I'm very sceptical both lore wise but also meta wise. Lore wise he seems way to self centered and driven to be master of all to settle for being the Witness lackey. Meta wise we are way to close in my book to the end of the light vs dark saga end for Bungie to be adding new disciple threats, it's blantanly obvious Bungie is in full thread closing mode, that's after all why Nezarec last season at most was just a plot McGuffin.
@@Awoken_Remmuz I would agree. It would definitely be too late for something that big to develop. As well, Clovis does seem way too self centered, narcissistic, and egotistical, to serve anyone other than himself!
With the end of the season’s story here it’s interesting that Rasputin was going to shoot the Traveler to stay. If he had would we still have guardians? Either way Amanda saved humanity three times over.
hey @Evaze, wasn't it you who predicted that Rasputin would be key to finding out the location of NeoMoona in Neptune. I really think it was you... if it was what a prediction!!!! cheers!!!!
HERE’S WHAT'S BEHIND THE SECRET DOOR! Easter Egg And Exo Secret: th-cam.com/video/m7sqxSMF96A/w-d-xo.html
So this is mess up, but exo are a different species all together then human, so are awoken. exo believe in essentially atheist. The humans are faithful and the awoken are essentially and justified agnostic. I'm not going to go into specific details but this is really messed up and way to deep for casual players.
I feel Clovis is gonna shackle rasputin when we get him back, or at least try, so he can completely control him again.
Tyrant dying in same way just like his son, Felwinter
He better not kill rasputin… if so then who the hell will we turn to when we need huge power to fend off a god of sorts.
@@pheonixeternal8981 no one hence why light will fall
@@dylanbyrne6160 lol stooop I don’t wanna cry lmao
Clovis will probably finish his big body and we have to kill that
It was so awesome to be able to travel to Felwinter Peak for the first time (for me) and see what it was like. I know not everything was back, but that doesn't matter. Was also cool to fight PvE enemies inside a PvP map.
Also, I can't get over how bizarre and odd it is for Rasputin to now sound like Clovis instead of just shrieking Russian like he used to.
Guys... Clovis is NOT dead, he's just being kicked out the Exoframe and confined in his base on Europa...
vanguard should bomb his bobblehead lookin ass and replace it with red lmao
Yeah Ana is just casting for an Oscar "i have killed my grand dad" but nop she didn't. I love Destiny and this half measures, it's like the 50-50 booking in WWE, never go one way just stay in the middle and hope of the best.
@@beermarket9971 Well, she didn't transfer the fork back to the main AI so they could fuse back together. Rasputin just deleted the copy of clovis running on the exoframe so Ana/Rasputin killed a copy of Clovis so kind of a dick move that probably erased all the month's worth of memories that clovis had of the helm but since a copy of Clovis is still around he technically didn't die unless you consider the 2 clones of Clovis to be separate people. Like banshee is a very divergent clone of Clovis and is considered a separete person but this copy that had only been disconnected from the main hub for a month probably isn't unique enough to be considered it's own person.
Morality becomes weird when people start cloning themselves and then people start killing the clones or the clones start disagreeing with each other.
The main AI knows that the Guardians are onto him now too.
It brings a lot of nostalgia just to do a mission here😊D1 is forever priceless
It bears asking: Are we certain Vlovis wasent already possesed by The Sol Divisive?
Destory the Traveler, become a god over the Sol System, await the "Salvation" of The Witness and its Darkness.
Sounds less like Clovis was ACTUALLY in control of himself, Ego or no.
Now that we booted him...chances are he'll go full-turncoat.
"If you WONT be greatful to me, you will learn to FEAR me instead!!!"
I say Clovis has huge ego and a massive god complex. The Witness wouldn't have needed to do anything but instead be drinking their soda and chowing on hot dogs seeing their enemy brought to pieces by the beings it has chosen to bless. It would be funnier and far more sinister that Clovis was doing it of his own volition.
Witness be like "Well, that was entertaining".
Homelander moment, if you can’t love me then you’ll fear me
Remember Clovis was using the darkness all those years ago. the darkness told Clovis to open the Vex gate
All my friends looked at me if I was crazy. They never played D1. I had a nostalgia trip but I couldn't relate the same feelings.
Finally, we get to hear the warmind speak. It was worth the wait
He spoke Russian in past seasons
@@pencilduster2938 ion speak russian
@@pencilduster2938 He actually spoke it backwards for some reason.
@@Drakith90 he spoke normally in Destiny 1 (even in ported saber strike). So Bungie retconned this badly and it was a bad kind of retcon.
Happy they didn't wait until the end of the season to reveal what everyone already figured would happen.
Alright. We need to keep eye on Clovis' Main AI. And maybe rig it with few remote charges.
Just a “few” explosives, cut to the room with giant Clovis’s head with massive amounts of C4 stuck to every surface including his face
I would agree clovis is probably not vary happy with us
replace charges with nukes and i would agree
@@phantom117b4 get taniks on the line we need his cores
A lot' of remote charges, preferably nuclear.
It makes more sense now why Clovis created the Pillory vaults to trap AI. Rapsutan (because of Ana's training) was diverging from what Clovis wanted him to be
And I'm guessing the creation of the other Warminds due to Rasputin's betrayal.
Maybe banshee-44 should pay a visit to the newly awoken Rasputin at the helm.... Seems like a huge miss on Bungie.
The ideal family reunion.... Banshee, Elizabeth, Anna and Rasputin
omg i forgot Banshee is Clovis rebooted 44 times lol
So glad we went to fell welnter Sadly I never played back when this was the story. It’s awesome to get to see it for myself. I’m sure the OGs loved going back to see this huge part of the story come full circle
Between, Iron Lord saladins, Zavalas Wife, Mithraxs past, and Rasputin. this mid season cutscene is the best by far
I could honestly see clovis being approached by the witness and him becoming something of a new deciple of his as a promise for power
I don’t think Clovis will get full control of the war sat network, but I bet he gets control of the Seraph station above earth and fires it on the traveler as the big finale to the season. That thing is too precariously placed above us.
I love how after Rasputin beats out clovis. And can rest nice and snug in thr frame he can only worry about Ana. And makes sure through us that she's okay
This is some great A++ storytelling Bungie is doing right here
I was taken aback when Rasputin said, "Forgive me, I am finding myself again." He's never been one to concede or apologize. Looks like he really may be changing from his old "tyrant" ways.
Also, I love this week's story progression but I hate that Rasputin has the same VA as Clovis. I hate that man (which means he's done a good job playing a pseudo-villain) and now all I hear when Rasputin speaks is the megalomaniac lmao.
He might progressively change his voice, as he took the systems from Clovis but we know that Rasputin loves iterating... over... and over... and over. Look at Outbreak Prime, then Outbreak Perfected. Or the two different versions of Sleeper Simulant! He could gradually shift his voice over the seasons, if push comes to shove!
@@thisisabackupemail2264true… but unlikely. Using the same VA saves Bungie money. Not tryna hate on Bungie, just stating the obvious I guess. I would also prefer Raspy to have a different voice tbh. I doubt it’ll happen, but we’ll see.
Actually Rasputin only sounds a lot like Clovis in the cutscenes. As I've been playing more Heists he's starting to sound distinctly different, more robotic. I can barely hear Clovis anymore in his voice.
@@infernasI’ve gotten the same vibe. His digitized voice, and it’s echos that overlap, culminate in my ear. Giving Rasputin the conveyance of a deeper, robotic, albeit more emotive, voice.
Finally, Rasputin is awake and with us, he knew about Clovis and his plans, so with that we need to stop him asap, we all know that Ana had no other choices left or just those she was trying to do to wake up Rasputin, but yet still she cloud thought her self that it's not pretty safe to let Clovis near Rasputin, his mind and his weapons
Good video as always Evaze👏
Haven’t played destiny 2 in like 2-3 years. This lore is really cool and made me want to go back, and I did, and so much has changed that it feels like joining a movie an hour and a half in, no point to it. I’ve missed a lot of content and story, so I don’t really know what to do or for the most part what is happening. Along with that people who did stay are good and I’m comparatively low level, so pvp is out of the picture too.
Loki Crown: Fire all weapons available on the Solar System on the Traveller.
I always remembered that info.
During Rasputin talking the lore was so intense i was literally thrown out of the game
at the start of the season my hopes were really low but this really surprised me, can’t say the burnout won’t happen again but this will at least keep me going a bit longer
Man im loving this season so much
When the answers still lead to more questions !!!!
Somehow, even after having watched this cutscene when it was leaked the first week, the events heretofore and current have managed to actually surprise me somewhat.
I’m absolutely loving this season. Can’t wait to see Rasputin finish his mind and body.
Evaze this gave me mad chills when I watched it!! It's about to go dooown 🔥🤯
I have a feeling Clovis had something to do with the collapse... i just itch whenever i think that he had always played with the darkness and when Rasputin locked him out from his code, all of a sudden, the collapse, but Clovis had a copy of himself in the big head... so no worries there... right? It itches!!! LOL
Apparently I knew Clovis has plans ahead of time lol thank you evaze 🙏
Destiny: Age of Clovis
This season is the age of ultron for destiny lol
I’m gonna call it…. End of season concludes by Clovis taking over Rasputin and destroying the traveler only to reveal that the traveler had been a shell cloaking a time jumped star ship that’s being controlled by A.I. created by Past guardians to change this very outcome…. Then walks in Kang the Conqueror
Hold your horses there lad/lass!
No matter how much I’m in the Clovis was gonna betray us train. Something is fishy about Rasputin to me.
I absolutely believe he did everything that was mentioned in the past, but with Hive involvement I feel a Trojan horse is happening with Rasputin.
I don't think it's what you think Rasputin now believes he made the wrong choice locking humanity out before the collapse and he said that after he said fellwinters memories were his memories that he could see himself through fellwinters eyes Rasputin called himself a tyrant.... I think that somehow there will be a fraction of the clovis A.I. that wasn't purged from the exo frame and clovis will find a way too rewrite him. Or the last hive God will actually get her hands on clovis Like she was trying too do in the first place and that will sway him too the dark side which gives the witness full control of the exo facilities
Possibly, but still I feel something is amiss with Rasputin.
Also besides that having Rasputin with Felwinters memories, him having an exo body, and him actually coherently speaking with us is awesome.
The rasputin season before the pyramids arrived was literally rasputins redemption arc. I would say why would they waste all that build up but bungie...
So....can be destroy Cloves now? I mean I've been wanting to do it ever since we found out he was banshee 44 (and I swear if some one says "why did you spoil that!?!" It has been a bit over/under 2 years since we found out.)
Dang Clovis really just went full Ultron
I still play, listen, read, and still come to listen to everyone's upload on lore.
I'm a little addicted.
You, byf, Doctor man Mylen (idr how to spell his name)
This is a banger of a season ❤
the Nefele Stronghold dialogue was available since last week actually
old Rasputin lore: *Admayer - Bullet * initiate TWILIGHT EXIGENT protocol !!🧐 new Rasputin lore: i looooove human 😍
old Clovis lore: mega mind level of evil genius!! new Clovis lore: *looney toons outro ost* ibiti ibiti THAT ALL FOLKS, style of villain
Clovis bray looks like the infamous dad from full metal alchemist😮😮
I think Clovis already put a back up somewhere in the exo body and will soon takeover Rasputin and take full control and the season will end.
I need some here to explain why it's a good idea or better yet choose to have a psycho like Clovis Bray be the voice of a changed Rasputin?
Rasputin had his own voice which was amazing and also now is imprinted with Felwinter's code but we gotta hear Clovis' voice 🤔
It would also seem to me that both Ana and Elisabeth would have PTSD from the POS that Clovis was/is and reject hearing that voice esp. Ana who is practically a mother figure to Rasputin. Heck, even Banshee is voiced differently.
I've been a fan of Destiny lore for 8 years esp. the Bray legacy/timelines so this really irks me.
All this to say, I'm just really bummed that this is the voice of Rasputin, at least for the time being.😪
I wonder if in the conclusion we'll end Clovis by destroying his Ai entirely. A possibility but not too high of a possibility if anything.
Also, during the Clovis confrontation, am I the only one who had Ana use finger guns on Clovis, cuz the hand cannon didn't didn't spawn during the scene when I did it.
They’re just as dangerous
She was using the IKELOS hand cannon for me - which I found strange in retrospect given her use of the 18 Kelvins sidearm in her normal loadout.
@@Landis963 she's grinding red border
@@Landis963 needs those seraph rounds to completely destroy the body
I hope bungie didn't retcon the fact that Rasputin killed felwinter because its looks like they forgotten what happened
the audio log for this week speaks about it
Actually they didn't. The Audio log confirms it. Osiris makes sure Papa Rasputin remembers what he did to the best boy Felwinter.
I still remember when in destiny 1 they wrote that felwinter used the abilities of the titans and the hunters, I remember they said that felwinter used the titan shoulder or that and he had entered the void dimension and came back
at least they animated the violin correctly (almost)
I really hoped we would see banshee and clovis meet in the helm before clovis got the boot, but banshee and rasputin could be a cool meeting
"How many times do we have to teach you a lesson, old man!"
11:45 Plot twist: That’s not Clovis talking. That was Rasputin 1.0 telling Ana not to kill him.
I'm still a bit skeptical. When you speak to Rasputin again after talking to Ana on the holo, Rasputin says "Maintain your current modus operandi for now." That's exactly what the Clovis partition said in an earlier mission.
Trust but verify if I were Ana or the Vanguard.
OH SAME HERE. The moment Red said that, i became skeptical again. HAHAHAHA. I mean it could be the same thing like how Savathun was out of character when she disguised as Osiris.
Don't you love it when Rasputin talks about Clovis' selfish ambition, the silhouette of the Exo Frame looks like Frieza.
Anna with the dollar store hand cannon lmao
You know im really starting to think that Clovis is actually going to be the "darkness infecting the traveler"
Clovis is the next disciple, I'm calling it
I predicted Clovis’s plan/betrayal and pretty sure a lot of people predicted this since the season started 🤣
Soooo....Red is back, and he speaks normally. Aside from his reversed Russian speech we heard during the Warmind DLC, which translates like :
- Bray created the system. But your kind tried to use me as a primitive weapon. Now I'll build my own. I will defend humanity. I am Rasputin, and I've found my purpose.
So this story just explained why he treated fulwinter the way he did
Doesnt radputin still own some siva? Why not activate its protocals and begin another golde,age with a fully and rightly used building block?
What if the warmind becomes an exo? Instead of segment, maybe retrieving the segment revives his son but within himself. I mean it wasnt his son in the first place but a sliver of himself.
I feel like Clovis gonna use part of fellwinter data to use the light and somehow he gonna become the raid boss
Honestly kind of sad we couldn't return to the secret lookout above the vault :(. I really wanted a little collectible or investigate node.
It's funny how everyone loves Myelin and But even though Evade, I mean Evaze (Mandela effect) runs circles around them.
I enjoyed this week's quest
Bro this would be very bad if Rasputin was actually the liar and we really just messed up by deleting Clovis 💀.
I honestly don't trust either of them knowing what happened to Felwinter and the other Iron lords. Even tho Clovis has the wrong ideas on how things should be I actually think he was the good guy in all this.
Personally I was lowkey on board with Clovis. Giving a galactic super weapon free will is just a bad idea all around.
@@freezerio1069 yeah Rasputin is literally the Death star of Destiny. 💀
Neither is the true option. Now we need Banshee to be part of this.
@@jesseritchie9282 that's if he can even remember ): it would be cool tho cause I don't even think he was even in a cutscene before
The old saying keep your friends close and your enemies closer when friends become enemies....
Clovis is so easy to understand.... if your a gamer, he is just a newly written illussive man from mass effect.
Man I sure love the crackling in my ears. You really picked a bad weapon to be holding lmfao
I always thought their was something more and sinister brewing with clovis this is just confirmation
This season is awesome !
I love your videos man!
So basically Clovis is back to Europa?
A Clovis mech boss fight would be bad ass
It just occurred to me, then, that if Rasputin dies yet again, a ghost could resurrect him if it chose. Felwinter would've had no DNA afterall.
If the traveler leaves again im straight im going to the darkness
When I saw what ana did I went "oh shit she's actually doing it"
8:27 that scene im pretty sure is actually in d1 on venus somewhere i remember seeing this in one of the venus campaign missions there was a skeleton along with a destroyed computer with holes in walls/windows/roofs and overrun by nature and eliksni i think it was when we were going after the vex mind to get access into the black garden
Venus is Ishtar turf. While they did work together as the dungeon showed us it was short lived.
If you really think about it Rasputin is like Ultron but less evil
Vision
Well let's not forget. Clovis isn't dead. He's just kicked out of the exo and back on Europa inside his main body. I can only imagine how pissed he is that even after Ana got resurrected as a guardian, she still hasn't gotten rid of her "Pointless" emotions. And yet, it was the actions she took that literally stopped a dark age from happening ahead of time.
A: "Rasputin....you sound like....."
R: "Vigil from Mass Effect? Yes, it is odd...."
I think the whole "Clovis voice" thing is a sign that it's actually Clovis in there, not Rasputin
He had the Clovis voice before he was put in the frame
Ana has always been like a mother figure to Rasputin. If it wasn't for her he would have been just another weapon for us to claim.
Why wasn't Felwinter's response to Osiris "Have you tried actually going to Neptune? You know, the 3rd most massive planet in the solar system? Big place, maybe if you started actually physically searching for it, instead of helping Clovis, you'd have found it by now"
So after god knows how long. We finally get to formally meet the legendary Warmind Rasputin. Gotta say, he's a rather calm AI considering he's not only named after the craziest Russian to ever live but is also a combat AI capable of wiping out all life on the planet if he wanted to.
You know what would be a twist? If that wasn't Rasputin speaking. For all his ego and grandstanding, Clovis Bray does not seem to me like a man without introspection. If nothing else, a man as mentally gifted as he would see and understand the way other see him and twist that to manipulate others. So him speaking as Rasputin and saying what we want to hear in some gambit to motivate us would fall in line with a 4D chess move that I see him playing. The partition Ana erased was a sort of... distilled version of Clovis, made to be hated and sacrificed.
Probably not. But I wouldn't be the least bit surprised.
Clovis gonna be the last disciple of the witness.... that would be cool
I love Rasputin
I'm wondering if we'll ever know the connection between red and siva
I would not be surprised if Clovis still has cards to play. Just wondering what they are.
I Tried to climb up the mountain again….couldn’t 😂
This makes rasputin feel like Ana's adopted child
Is... Is this season building a rivalry between Clovis and Rasputin for the right to be Humanity's Machine God of the Warmind technology? Forget Xivu Arath, I'm getting tickets and popcorn for the Golden Age inheritance battle between maker and machine!
I have a theory. But first bear in mind I don’t expect this to be true, as I have been a bit lacking in keeping with certain parts of the lore. I seem to remember that during the golden age, Clovis had, was it “communications”, or “visions”, of “clarity.” And that this entity, “clarity” was later revealed to be the Darkness. So the first part of my speculations is, that the secrets he admits to the guardian, that he had to keep from his family, were of his said communications with “clarity.” Also the true intent of his plans with the Warmind. ( though this secret is obvious, with the dialogue. )
The second speculation is that the distress call Ana decrypts saying, “they know,” might have been sent to the Witness. ( As the Witness = the Darkness, and Clovis has had communication before.
Finally, Clovis becoming a god by using the Warmind to destroy the Traveller, could have been a means to make Clovis a disciple of the Witness. And the new found Godhood, would allow Clovis to force humanity to serve the Witness. Similarly to Eramis and her house of Eliksni, and Xivu Arath and her hive.
Please feel free to poke holes in this, and correct me on any errors I’ve made in the lore!
Consider the message was specifically stated to be sent towards the braytech facility on Europa it seems quite obvious it was more the exo body version of Clovis told big head facility Clovis with that.
As for Clovis going disciple I'm very sceptical both lore wise but also meta wise. Lore wise he seems way to self centered and driven to be master of all to settle for being the Witness lackey.
Meta wise we are way to close in my book to the end of the light vs dark saga end for Bungie to be adding new disciple threats, it's blantanly obvious Bungie is in full thread closing mode, that's after all why Nezarec last season at most was just a plot McGuffin.
@@Awoken_Remmuz I would agree. It would definitely be too late for something that big to develop. As well, Clovis does seem way too self centered, narcissistic, and egotistical, to serve anyone other than himself!
I really despise Osiris. He is the same as Clovis
He's an arrogant and agressive idiot lol
He really is annoying af. Useful, very useful at that, but just so damn full of himself.... typical warlock shit I guess 🤣
With the end of the season’s story here it’s interesting that Rasputin was going to shoot the Traveler to stay.
If he had would we still have guardians? Either way Amanda saved humanity three times over.
Number 5 is alive. 😁
hey @Evaze, wasn't it you who predicted that Rasputin would be key to finding out the location of NeoMoona in Neptune. I really think it was you... if it was what a prediction!!!! cheers!!!!
I knew Clovis wasn't to be trusted from all the audio and finding out what little history they gave of him as a selfish uncontrollable evil genius.
Triangle gives us powers: 😀
Sphere give hive powers: 😡
I think the witness has gotten to Osiris