Rasputin to Fellwinter: “You betrayed me, humanity and the Iron Lords took you from me, I gave you life, not the Traveler, and I can take it away. Permanently. Fellwinter’s tragic demise: Rasputin: “What have I done? My son now undone? A great gift to the world, now destroyed the deed done. I’ve known loss but never tragedy to insight tears. Will this evil deed of the tyrant make the world forever judge me as a Tyrant to fear? Forgiveness I hope to claim, but how can one obtain it with only himself to blame? How can one forgive themselves unless it spoken to him by others in his name? Forgive me my son, and those after, a future squandered by a cruel tyrant was the role I played. One with no joy or laughter. I alone forced to lament this dark day. As I cry over your body, now memorialized in a grave, that I have made, as your memory will never be unmade.
In addition to being able to access any warmind technology simply by being near it, felwinter is like the warminds VIP (especially since felwinter is rasputins son)
Hmm, will we see Rasputin take up Felwinter's Mantle, become a walking talking warrior Guardian (of sorts, seeing as Rasputin is Lightless) or will he remain just a Chassis, bolted to a rig, from which he commands, much as he did from his old Bunker on Mars? I hope to see him mobile, an Exo Frame in full command of his faculties and his connection to the distributed Warmind Network.
theoretically he could make an entire army of exos, and I think we might see that happen if the story leads to Clovis Bray's takedown and vanguard control of the europa facilities.
Imagine Rasputin reconnecting to all of his prior facilities, updating their code with some autonomy and new schematics (that of Shanks, and Siva-driven/shaped Vex-style constructs), and assigning Guardian Seraph teams to each along with a voluntary force of people from the City, locally, or other allies (including Cabal and Eliksni), and reinstating each submind as an independent entity with their own replicable Exo surrogate (meaning the physical shell can be replaced if destroyed, acting akin to a Guardian in-so-far as the body's loss isn't a total death sentence anymore). He could then have a fireteam of Exos, each with SIVA nanotech emulating Guardian powers and giving them a way to rezz through rapid self-repair, each being the rest of his Subminds, standing side-by-side with him as equals. This combined with warsats and Golden Age war machines unseen and unheard of at his behest, he could give a more lethal response to the enemy. But only after Xivu has been defeated in her Throneworld by her own rules. She is essentially Khorne; and to fight, is to empower her. Savathun may come in handy for this, since her Lucent Brood is also at stake.
I think Clovis still has schemes he’s waiting to unfold with Rasputin. But ultimately I can see Rasputin with the memories of felwinter and Clovis becoming a perfected version with Clovis’ cunning to outmanoeuvre his enemies, rasputins capability for destruction with the warsat network to crush them and felwinters humanity to protect everybody. Even if he wasn’t to become a guardian he would be just as powerful as one.
i almost miss rasputins old voice. like yes its really cool we can talk to him now. but idk, raspuitin is this powerful almost god like force in our solar system yet he now sounds almost human. his old weird voice made him seem more like what he basically is.
I wonder how Bungie is going to retcon Rasputin being hyped through the roof as this all powerful warmind and then getting shut off by a single pyramid. They are going to have to do some incredible lore gymnastics to make him relevant in the coming battle when the Witness can essentially just shut him off again if the pyramids were so easily able to render him irrelevant.
They dont need to do anything... The pyramids are paracausal. Rasputin is a powerful weapon for sure but he is bound by the laws of causality so he by himself cannot go toe to toe with the darkness.. Put him against the cabal, fallen or hive and he'd probably win any conventional fight. But against the darkness he can't do much
Read zhe following on your own risk If the season 19 leaks are true, Rasputin will sacrifice himself to stop xivu arath, so he dies before the witness arrives in our system
I love everything about the war mind, SIVA,Felwinter,DSC,Rasputin,even the weapons that were created. I am fascinated by the war mind, and if I remember correctly, wasn’t there more than one? This could be cool to see all of them come back online
@@gibby03exe79 nah In vanilla d2 they talk about it briefly on Io, in d1 it’s meantioned in fallen saber (if I remember) ghost says “last warmind” implying at one time there was more than just Rasputin
I wonder if since they are kinda the same person now if Rasputin can get chosen by the light and use light powers through the war sats and other things he controls.
your video made me realize Fellwinters helm actually is the destiny tricorn logo. I just never looked at the front of the helm in the right lighting to see it.
If Ana finishes Rasputin’s Exo frame, with limbs and more mobility and autonomy, I wonder? Would the Warmind upgrade himself? Making cosmetic changes and applying weaponry to his personal frame? Would he use a sword or glaive inspired by the design of the Javelin Valkyrie, and Sleeper Stimulate in hand. Imagine, with scarlet eyes the Warmind slaying Hive, Taken, Scorn, maybe even Disciples, as fleets are decimated by his Warsats. The terrible Tyrant he used to be, coming out to describe to the Black Fleet, the meaning of fear, from a person to stubborn and angry to die.
Felwinter is and will be my favorite character i search a lot things for him when i listened Osiris back in the season of seraph talk about him and i was able to go to the Felwinters pick i was so glad. He is a legend
U know what I think is coming? A Siva season. It'll probably be a filler season with little story but the cosmetics and weapons would probably be sick, "Rasputin now in an exo chassis beckons the guardians, with intent to right a wrong made long ago. He tells of trackers of siva cells still held by fallen splicers and asks the guardian to help hunt them down to make weapons to be used against the witness"
@@wriglarzzzI think that their might be dormant SIVA on neptune from the Exodus ship. My theory is the Witness is going to try and harness SIVA to bulk up their army. I mean it’s plausible right? The Witness is trying to harness Rasputin this season
I know so very little about Destiny lore. During my random play of Destiny 2 at some point I acquired an exotic helm, Fellwinter something or other. I love the style of it so I’ve refused to do anything other than keep building it up. Only reason I’m not wearing it at present is I’m using some fancy festive looking helm ornament 🤣. This has been so interesting.
Rasputin created Felwinter to see the world through his eyes only for those eyes to be taken from him after the Collapse and brought back as his own being with his own philosophies, and perceptions of the new world while still seeking the father who had given him life. However, Rasputin, though learning the goods and bads of humanity, due to his failure to protect the humans of those great years from the Collapse, he could not bring himself to trust his powers to be in the hands of the new warriors of the world he once inhabited. So when Felwinter sought after a great power, Rasputin showed him the way only to devour him alive. Now that Rasputin has memories of his son along with seeing things from his view of him being a Tyrant and of the crimes he has committed towards not just Osiris, Saladin, and the Iron Lords, but also to Zavala, the Vanguard, and that includes other Guardians whose comrades he had snuffed. I wonder if we'll get a dialogue bubble of sorts at a week between him and Saladin. At least Rasputin is willing to make amends for his dormancy now with people that he can trust his powers with.
It’s sad still. The tragedy that was the lie of Fellwinter. Such a poetic story of the terrible Tyrant and his son. I’m surprised there isn’t much fanart depicting the tragic story of them together. Rasputin now regrets his last deeds, and the tomb he created to memorialize Fellwinter shows how laments that tragic day. If he could, Rasputin would’ve wept over his son’s deathbed, lamenting his tragic end, the Iron Lord’s broken body in his arms. The story, as the lore, and Rasputin describe it, feels like nothing less than a Shakespearean tragedy.
Rasputin has Felwinters memories right? so what if we just made him an actual exo body, participate in things etc. Hell maybe the light will find him yk?
If Rasputin fell and was Risen, he'd forget everything again as the Light blinds your past for you to build a future, while Dark helps you recall all that had been hidden or lost or forgotten and make of it anew. Though if he could find a way to reassemble Felspring, he might be able to do some obscene paracausal technomagic. Like, super'ing up a Warsat's weapon systems like a massive Golden Gun and not only carving open a Pyramid ship's hull in one shot, but also disabling it's method of movement and weapon systems.
At this point the Traveler “deeming someone worthy of the Light” doesn’t mean much on the moral scale considering everything that happened with Savathun.
Man just imagine u just got resurrected and are being attack by unknown enemies and then u just raise ur hand and a ducking nuke just falls down from the sky
@@Emrirwastaken felwinter lore is so weird. I wan under the impression Exos we’re human minds in a robot body. If felwinter was an AI then he would be no different than Rasputin’s Frames.
My headcannon is that subminds like Felwinter that gain sentience can be chosen by the traveler. They just need a physical body to get resurrected by a ghost. It gets weirder the more you think about it.
This situation in a nutshell is basically;
Osiris: "You killed my father!"
Rasputin: "I AM your father."
Felwinter is such an interesting character, glad we are getting even more lore on him.
fellspring and fellwinter lol
@@segnen9765 Imagine how cool it is to be Felwinter and have litterally an army following you and warsats everywhere you go Imagine the power!
Wish we had cutscenes
Rasputin to Fellwinter: “You betrayed me, humanity and the Iron Lords took you from me, I gave you life, not the Traveler, and I can take it away. Permanently.
Fellwinter’s tragic demise:
Rasputin: “What have I done? My son now undone? A great gift to the world, now destroyed the deed done.
I’ve known loss but never tragedy to insight tears. Will this evil deed of the tyrant make the world forever judge me as a Tyrant to fear? Forgiveness I hope to claim, but how can one obtain it with only himself to blame? How can one forgive themselves unless it spoken to him by others in his name? Forgive me my son, and those after, a future squandered by a cruel tyrant was the role I played. One with no joy or laughter. I alone forced to lament this dark day. As I cry over your body, now memorialized in a grave, that I have made, as your memory will never be unmade.
Felwinter, my alltime favourite character is a gift that keeps on giving.
Imagine that…an exo created by Rasputin and revived by the Traveler. Talk about unique…lol.
In addition to being able to access any warmind technology simply by being near it, felwinter is like the warminds VIP (especially since felwinter is rasputins son)
And an iron lord
@@teknyonand being a warlock able to use shoulder charge lol
@@Emrirwastaken lmao
Hmm, will we see Rasputin take up Felwinter's Mantle, become a walking talking warrior Guardian (of sorts, seeing as Rasputin is Lightless) or will he remain just a Chassis, bolted to a rig, from which he commands, much as he did from his old Bunker on Mars? I hope to see him mobile, an Exo Frame in full command of his faculties and his connection to the distributed Warmind Network.
theoretically he could make an entire army of exos, and I think we might see that happen if the story leads to Clovis Bray's takedown and vanguard control of the europa facilities.
I want to personally see the former with him using a rifle that fires targeting beacons for his Warsats.
No rasputin sacrifices himself to save ana and us because xivu arath was about to do some naughty shi.
Imagine Rasputin reconnecting to all of his prior facilities, updating their code with some autonomy and new schematics (that of Shanks, and Siva-driven/shaped Vex-style constructs), and assigning Guardian Seraph teams to each along with a voluntary force of people from the City, locally, or other allies (including Cabal and Eliksni), and reinstating each submind as an independent entity with their own replicable Exo surrogate (meaning the physical shell can be replaced if destroyed, acting akin to a Guardian in-so-far as the body's loss isn't a total death sentence anymore).
He could then have a fireteam of Exos, each with SIVA nanotech emulating Guardian powers and giving them a way to rezz through rapid self-repair, each being the rest of his Subminds, standing side-by-side with him as equals.
This combined with warsats and Golden Age war machines unseen and unheard of at his behest, he could give a more lethal response to the enemy.
But only after Xivu has been defeated in her Throneworld by her own rules. She is essentially Khorne; and to fight, is to empower her. Savathun may come in handy for this, since her Lucent Brood is also at stake.
That would be ironic since he hated thr traveler for taking his son.
I think Clovis still has schemes he’s waiting to unfold with Rasputin. But ultimately I can see Rasputin with the memories of felwinter and Clovis becoming a perfected version with Clovis’ cunning to outmanoeuvre his enemies, rasputins capability for destruction with the warsat network to crush them and felwinters humanity to protect everybody. Even if he wasn’t to become a guardian he would be just as powerful as one.
i almost miss rasputins old voice. like yes its really cool we can talk to him now. but idk, raspuitin is this powerful almost god like force in our solar system yet he now sounds almost human. his old weird voice made him seem more like what he basically is.
I wonder how Bungie is going to retcon Rasputin being hyped through the roof as this all powerful warmind and then getting shut off by a single pyramid. They are going to have to do some incredible lore gymnastics to make him relevant in the coming battle when the Witness can essentially just shut him off again if the pyramids were so easily able to render him irrelevant.
They dont need to do anything... The pyramids are paracausal. Rasputin is a powerful weapon for sure but he is bound by the laws of causality so he by himself cannot go toe to toe with the darkness..
Put him against the cabal, fallen or hive and he'd probably win any conventional fight. But against the darkness he can't do much
Read zhe following on your own risk
If the season 19 leaks are true, Rasputin will sacrifice himself to stop xivu arath, so he dies before the witness arrives in our system
I love everything about the war mind, SIVA,Felwinter,DSC,Rasputin,even the weapons that were created. I am fascinated by the war mind, and if I remember correctly, wasn’t there more than one? This could be cool to see all of them come back online
There might be, but you could also be thinking of the subminds, Charlemagne and Malahayati.
@@gibby03exe79 nah In vanilla d2 they talk about it briefly on Io, in d1 it’s meantioned in fallen saber (if I remember) ghost says “last warmind” implying at one time there was more than just Rasputin
@@gibby03exe79 I’m pretty sure there’s also a mission called “last warmind” somewhere
I wonder if since they are kinda the same person now if Rasputin can get chosen by the light and use light powers through the war sats and other things he controls.
your video made me realize Fellwinters helm actually is the destiny tricorn logo.
I just never looked at the front of the helm in the right lighting to see it.
If Ana finishes Rasputin’s Exo frame, with limbs and more mobility and autonomy, I wonder? Would the Warmind upgrade himself? Making cosmetic changes and applying weaponry to his personal frame? Would he use a sword or glaive inspired by the design of the Javelin Valkyrie, and Sleeper Stimulate in hand. Imagine, with scarlet eyes the Warmind slaying Hive, Taken, Scorn, maybe even Disciples, as fleets are decimated by his Warsats. The terrible Tyrant he used to be, coming out to describe to the Black Fleet, the meaning of fear, from a person to stubborn and angry to die.
I hope we get to see more of john felwinter
I still want that siva ghost shell back, Honestly all the ghost sheels from the raids would be great to have.
Felwinter is and will be my favorite character i search a lot things for him when i listened Osiris back in the season of seraph talk about him and i was able to go to the Felwinters pick i was so glad. He is a legend
i really hope felwinter wears their original helmet so as a warlock main i cna wear felwinters helm as well
U know what I think is coming? A Siva season. It'll probably be a filler season with little story but the cosmetics and weapons would probably be sick, "Rasputin now in an exo chassis beckons the guardians, with intent to right a wrong made long ago. He tells of trackers of siva cells still held by fallen splicers and asks the guardian to help hunt them down to make weapons to be used against the witness"
@@wriglarzzzI think that their might be dormant SIVA on neptune from the Exodus ship. My theory is the Witness is going to try and harness SIVA to bulk up their army. I mean it’s plausible right? The Witness is trying to harness Rasputin this season
What is the bow you’re using in this video and its perk, that hits enemies with arc energy when the arrow hits the ground? 11:57
I know so very little about Destiny lore. During my random play of Destiny 2 at some point I acquired an exotic helm, Fellwinter something or other. I love the style of it so I’ve refused to do anything other than keep building it up. Only reason I’m not wearing it at present is I’m using some fancy festive looking helm ornament 🤣. This has been so interesting.
The ghost in felwinter's helm is an old Warlord ghost, not Felspring
Felwinter was an Exo? Thats explains why everyone who uses his shotgun acts like a flippin bot 🤣🤣🤣
Rasputin created Felwinter to see the world through his eyes only for those eyes to be taken from him after the Collapse and brought back as his own being with his own philosophies, and perceptions of the new world while still seeking the father who had given him life. However, Rasputin, though learning the goods and bads of humanity, due to his failure to protect the humans of those great years from the Collapse, he could not bring himself to trust his powers to be in the hands of the new warriors of the world he once inhabited. So when Felwinter sought after a great power, Rasputin showed him the way only to devour him alive.
Now that Rasputin has memories of his son along with seeing things from his view of him being a Tyrant and of the crimes he has committed towards not just Osiris, Saladin, and the Iron Lords, but also to Zavala, the Vanguard, and that includes other Guardians whose comrades he had snuffed. I wonder if we'll get a dialogue bubble of sorts at a week between him and Saladin. At least Rasputin is willing to make amends for his dormancy now with people that he can trust his powers with.
It’s sad still. The tragedy that was the lie of Fellwinter. Such a poetic story of the terrible Tyrant and his son. I’m surprised there isn’t much fanart depicting the tragic story of them together. Rasputin now regrets his last deeds, and the tomb he created to memorialize Fellwinter shows how laments that tragic day. If he could, Rasputin would’ve wept over his son’s deathbed, lamenting his tragic end, the Iron Lord’s broken body in his arms. The story, as the lore, and Rasputin describe it, feels like nothing less than a Shakespearean tragedy.
So I’ve got a question. Is the exo frame just a random frame that Ana found or is it Felwinter’s body?
Rasputin has Felwinters memories right? so what if we just made him an actual exo body, participate in things etc. Hell maybe the light will find him yk?
If Rasputin fell and was Risen, he'd forget everything again as the Light blinds your past for you to build a future, while Dark helps you recall all that had been hidden or lost or forgotten and make of it anew.
Though if he could find a way to reassemble Felspring, he might be able to do some obscene paracausal technomagic.
Like, super'ing up a Warsat's weapon systems like a massive Golden Gun and not only carving open a Pyramid ship's hull in one shot, but also disabling it's method of movement and weapon systems.
Idk, given that rasputin let the iron lords and his own "son", the traveler might not deem him worthy of the light.
At this point the Traveler “deeming someone worthy of the Light” doesn’t mean much on the moral scale considering everything that happened with Savathun.
Anyone able to tell me the name of the song at 7:20?
Man just imagine u just got resurrected and are being attack by unknown enemies and then u just raise ur hand and a ducking nuke just falls down from the sky
This is all building up for Rasputin to become a guardian.
That must be really awkward for red knowing he is responsible for his own sons death and is now in his ghost……awkward……lol
What if when it all ends we find out We ARE the ghost this whole time?
I love felwinter a true chadlock
Likely we will have Rasputin take over thr travelers place once it leaves
I wish Rasputin can jump into different exos
Is this the new quest?
Lord salad is gonna lose his 💩 if he finds out
WE NEED AN ORNAMENT
So felwinter is basically Aloy? 😅
Vote Rasputin for hunter vanguard!
Darkness Subclasses - Dark Blue - Stasis; Dark Green - Strand; Dark Red - SIVA based ✌️
Damn the war mind was a dick bru
Felwinters Hate Him!
How did the traveler resurrect an Ai submind??? Doesn't even make sense
Felwinter was an exo, that in the collapse and got resed by the trav, not much too it
Felwinter wasn’t an AI submind he was an Exo, which means he had at least a human mind that was connected to Rasputin
@@pahaninYT not a human mind, thats whats different. It was a submind, but in an exo form BEFORE it died
@@Emrirwastaken felwinter lore is so weird. I wan under the impression Exos we’re human minds in a robot body. If felwinter was an AI then he would be no different than Rasputin’s Frames.
My headcannon is that subminds like Felwinter that gain sentience can be chosen by the traveler. They just need a physical body to get resurrected by a ghost. It gets weirder the more you think about it.
Guess we’re remaking felwinter
Probably first! I eat sugar wafers at 3AM!
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