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- The game never tells you about Issen or how to do it. I hope this helps those who want to dive into Onimusha: Warlords
Long Overdue Update:
You CAN perform Issen on Marcellus 2 in the second phase. I played this game almost since it was new and never knew that until the remaster came out!
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This dude just came outta no where and made me this video to teach me counters and never uploaded again what a fucking king
He did a new one 5 years later !
I hadn't played Onimusha until the steam release, and this guide helps a lot. There are a lot of great combat nuances in Onimusha that aren't clearly explained in the game.
Do you even use the tank controls?
Casuals: Sekiro and Dark Souls teaching us how to parry!
Onimusha: Hold my sake!
Omg thank you! Especially for the tip on how to escape grabs
Issen in 2019... The nostalgia
Stuck in quarantine and currently on Onimusha on my backlog. This helps a lot thanks.
There is no quarantine... Never was.
That 4 year bro I way ahead my time comment 😂...so sadly crapcom didn't made Onimusha 2,3 and Dawn of dreams onimusha game..😔
Onimusha Warlords just came on discount on Switch, this helps a lot
Actually you can perform issen on Marcello (The boss that protects the entrance to the Demon's World) by blocking his attacks after he loses his shield. You can also issen the big red samurai by kicking him and pressing attack at the time he loses his balance. This last one I just found out recently lol.
I've already learned about doing Issen on Marcellus. All those years and I never had any clue. Thanks.
I pretty much got the timing for issen with the early enemies and thought it would work with the bosses. I died countless of times trying to issen the first boss before I stopped trying and just normal attack it until it's dead.
I've been there.
Trying to do dark realm with no enhancements or jewels was literally giving me an brain bleed until I watched this video lol Thank you! I never fully understood how to do this after years of playing this game and now I land it at will.
Holy, how this guide is short and down to the point clear. Big 👍 from me
Thank you.
You know what!? You're all right 👍
Useful video.
The fact Samanoske does a doge when you time it right made me think you had to manually doge instead of just pressing he attack button.
And yea good advice for how to escape grabs i was just mashing attack button and analog stick.
Just got the remaster the other day and I was convinced that back when I played it on ps2 there was another move that I couldn't find anywhere in the menus of the remaster. Thank you so much for doing this, the video is perfect!
What would you say your success rate is with this? I'm 3 hours into my first playthrough and find my rate of pulling this off very disheartening. I can't seem to tell the difference between my successful attempts and my failures. The window feels so small especially for the blocking issen which I can almost never land
Also, would you suggest practicing against every single enemy to get their moveset mapped out? Or is this something that over time you kind of just click with.
To begin with, don't worry about mastering Issen against every enemy, and definitely won't worry about it on your first playthrough. It was ages before I knew Issen was even a thing in the game. Just focus on understanding how the game works and have a fun time for now.
Even if you only learn how to consistently perform Issen on a handful of the basic enemies, that allows for its own advantages. You can thin out the crowd and then focus on heavier enemies that are singled out. Or you can line up your Issen on a weaker enemy to cause collateral and take down the heavier enemy in the process.
You also have a block, normal attack, magic attack, kick, bow/arrow, and matchlock rifle. Don't neglect those, as they are all very useful as well. Issen is not your only option and in many situations you may discover trying something else yields better results.
Now, as for getting the hang of Issen:
First, the window to perform Issen is only a few frames. This is just a tiny fraction of a second. The Bazuu and zombie soldiers telegraph their attacks way ahead of time, giving you plenty of time to anticipate. I recommend training against them to start until you're confident in your understanding of Issen.
Second, focus on blocking for now. Don't worry about attacking just yet, just try to understand the timing for when the block. Blocking has way more advantages in general, but also gives you a better gauge on your timing. If you take a hit, then assume you pressed block too late and do it sooner next time. If you block and don't see the impact ring, assume you blocked too early and try it later the next time. Pay attention to whether or not you see the dispersing impact ring from a successful blocking Issen to know if you've done it correctly.
Third, set yourself a realistic goal. Do it 50 or 100 times or whatever suits you. Once you've hit the goal, take a break and come back later. Otherwise you risk fatiguing yourself and you won't gain much out of it.
Fourth, it's time to build muscle memory. Once you understanding the timing of the enemy's attack, try to do it 10 or 20 times in a row. If that's a bit too daunting, try 5 times in a row and work your way up from there.
If an enemy in particular is giving you trouble, I suggest creating a save file or two for practice. One for easy access to the Dark Realm and another when/where the enemy in question spawns in the game.
Like every skill, the only way to improve is to practice regularly. Don't forget to learn the sound queues for enemy attacks. Knowing when the sound is going to play in an animation helps to learn timing a lot. Also, use absorbing in order to coax enemies to attack sooner if you see them standing around doing nothing. You don't have to actually absorb any souls for it to work. If you find yourself getting frustrated, then take a break and try again when you have calmed down.
Keep on doing and don't give up.
Probably a bit late now, on the spiked enemies that roll, you cant counterattack the same way as you normally do.
You need to let the rolling attack make contact while defending, as soon as the attack makes contact press up and attack and the character will do an upper counter attack.
It's the only way you can do it against rolling attacks.
Good to know. I'll test this out the next time I play it.
Thanks man!
Not too late. I play this Masterpiece now for the First Time. Thanks :)
The hardest difficulty in Onimusha game needs you to kill enemy with issen only.. Kinda hardcore
Issen can be perform on Marcellus 2 but just that he won't die instant.
Yes, I learned that once the remaster came out. Wish I'd known that before!
Thank you so much for this video!!
Glad to see some onimusha content
Wait a minute, I remember it works on boss in Onimusha 2 because they had a difficulty with Critical Mode only.
Yeah, he mentioned it. Only the first game didn't allow you to issen bosses
Shame they never remastered onimusha 2-4
Guide still hitting the spot Christmas 2023 🎄👌🏿
I cannot for the life of me get the timing right.
Dang I just finished the game on PS4 without knowing this 😢. Game changer now I gotta play it over again lol.
An excuse to play Onimusha again is never a bad thing!
thanks, i took off some rust
Thanks ALOT for telling how to escape grabs and win cross-sword fights, that eplains much now! XD
And I'll try to do as you've told with flash now. Forgot how it worked, it was such a long time since I've played Onimusha.
I figured passing along that information might be helpful. It would be nice if the game would just tell you how these things worked.
@@neonwir6750 3rd game did a great job with those Teaching scrolls and challenges, if done right, they also give you nice rewards (if you won't end up dying numerous times trying to go through them x_x), and also teach how to use your abilities right!
RIght now, I still struggle with countering the large demons, like red knights and those with axes. Those are bitches to counter. But, I've managed to get up my chances with counters greatly! Thanks to you. :3
Rolling attacks can also be issen, im replaying onimusha right now and I did it dozens of times now
Good to know. I wasn't able to pull it off, but I'll experiment with the timing more next time I revisit the game.
Glad this mechanic reborn in Sekiro, eventhough in different way
there is a guard button?
Thank you so much I’ve been dying to learn how to win clashes & escape grabs!!
Glad to help
neon wir dude I’ve got on & been trying to master the moves seriously thank you
Crazy gege akutami based the concept of black flash from this game. So much goatness...
on the pc remaster version i cant seem to get it to work like 80% of the time. i wait for the swoosh sometimes he decides to do it other times he dont. i wait just before the attack same thing. i even have done it after hearing the swoosh but he should have took the hit by then. that and at times no matter if i use controller or keyboard its like there is a delay in the attack. i had more luck randomly getting them it seems than actually trying/keeping and eye out for them. oh and if im locked on it works even less than not locked on.
Really appreciate the guide and noting that you can’t do them on bosses. I was used to 2 and 3 and being able to do it on them and was wondering why even with timing it wasn’t working. Really looking forward to diving into the game again and hope we can get 2 and 3 sometime down the line.
Thanks for the kind comment. This is exactly why I wanted to make this guide, because Onimusha doesn't explain the mechanic at all. I'm glad it was already able to help someone.
neon wir It really did! Last I played an Onimusha game was over a decade ago and your guide was clear, concise and very well explained. Really appreciate you doing that. Any plans for what you might be working on next for a video?
@@TheInfiniteXIII Always got ideas! Turning them into videos is another matter.
Thanks for the explanation
My pleasure
Does this all apply to Onimusha 1 and 2? Or are Issen mechanics diff. in those games?
Excellent and thorough video my friend. I noticed the occasional audio queue following a one shot while replaying this masterpiece and at first thought it was like a finishing blow type animation but then went on to perform on accident on a full health mob during the 19th round of the dark realm. It saved my ass and helped me complete it for key needed for that badass sword in the demon world. This video answered every question I had. Also the bonus tip was a total gem. I’d been meaning to look up the best way to win the sword locks and that helped a ton. Just wanted to let you know your time and efforts are greatly appreciated! Avid TH-camr here and a new fan! Keep it up bro.
Very nice 👍
Thanks alot
Having a hard time finding anything for dawn of dreams have you considered making one for thta
They should have remastered the Xbox version. So much better.
Thank you, playing the first game now and now i finally understand this. Its really poorly explained when you play it the first time.
It’s just hilarious that I never used it unless a accident that got me out of a bind lol 😂
Thanks for the tutorial! I manage to pull some of these flashes on my own, but now i know for sure how they work thanks to you! Great video man!
Thanks man!
Even tho i finished the game many times, i’ll replay it again and train Issen!
Thanks
just got back into this game and needed this tutorial, thank you this is awesome
you're my man dude, thank you +1
Thanks. Glad I could help.
I LOVE YOU BRO the bonus tip i was looking
This is an awesome video, I only recently found out you can use repelling-flash on one of Marcellus' moves.
Super. Freaking. Helpful. Liked/Subscribed.
Thank you very much, good sir. I always wondered if there's some more to this technique, but no, just timings and the right attacks to counter. Also thanks for the grab escape tip.
Happy to help.
this is the video I've needed since I first played it back on the ps2 =)
I always did that counter attack / side step attack randomly
When I first played the game years ago, I always thought it as just a random critical hit.
@@neonwir6750 Same. I'd always be amazed. Like it was some sort of luck based attack.
fantastic video :)
Hoping back into the game thank you so much for this reminder
Life saver
Sorry for ruining the perfect 666 likes
You say here that there are no Issens for bosses but apparently you can Issen the 1st boss past the demon gate’s rush move
Yes, this is true. All those years playing Onimusha and I never knew about that until this remaster.
Man, I do love the internet. I played and beat this game twice before a friend told me this even existed. That's how it was in the day.
Gotta buy those strategy guides!
Good video, but you can issen Marcellus and Fortinbras as well. So you can hit bosses.
I've since learned about the second Marcellus fight. Which Fortinbras attack can you perform Issen on?
@@neonwir6750 His hand poke I believe. Haven't done it in a long time.
Very helpful, thanks!
Awesome ultimate counter attack
Very informative. Thanks.
Magic ability is for plebs..... with that being said, i've finished this game at least 6 times and i'm still unable to master this counter move. Thanks for this video.
I hope it helps you.
The issen is impossible 😂
Finally thank you!!
This really helps!! Thanks!!
any tips for chain issen?
Chain Issen wasn't introduced until Onimusha 2.
@@neonwir6750 that's good to know, thanks! i've been trying for an hour :'(
Oh-nee-moo-sha?
recently got the re-release of it on pc! currently trying to nail down the timing but my god its a pain too try and master. like holy hell. XD the block tactic may be more up my ally, i keep dieing to foes because i just stand there like a tit. :P curiously, if theres any different to the timing between the original and the re release, it would be cool if you made a vid addressing it.
Believe me, even knowing that Issen was in the game, it took a while before I could make it very useful instead of just getting knocked around like a piñata. I find practicing with the ninja enemies to be easiest when getting use to the blocking counter attack. They give you a lot of distance between most attacks so you can anticipate them better. As for timing differences between versions, I haven't noticed anything on any appreciable level. It feels the same to me.
Kaede no work ?
Going to comment here, since this is much more recent: Can anyone confirm if different weapons have different Issen timings?
I read over at GameFAQs that the Lgt Sword and Air Shippu have similar timings, but the Fire Broadsword is different. Apparently especially against large enemies. This isn’t something I’ve tested and tried myself.
Also, it may be a placebo effect, but I have a much easier time performing Issen on large, slow enemies with the Normal Katana. Is it possible that the Normal Katana has a larger frame for Issen than other weapons in the game?
Edit: I’m specifically talking about counter-attack Issen, and not the H Issen (Guarding)
I experimented with this a bit after reading something similar, but I didn't notice any differences in timing to be honest. They could be different and I just didn't pick up on it, but I've never had to change the time of my reactions. Or maybe I just wasn't fighting the right enemies or reacting to the right attacks.
Do you have to release the block before you attack?
When performing a guarding issen? No, I don't believe so.
Thanks 🇧🇷
Perfect video
I put issen into google translate and it simply means "Line"
thats a different "sen" , in this case it means "flash"
Thx man 🤗♥️
Glad to help.
The guide is simply and effective, Thanks for the tutorial^
Dammit, even with a comprehensive guide I still can't get it down!
The repelling flash is a lot easier to perform than the other. I was able to destroy my enemies with ease with it (including some bosses) in Onimusha 3.
Thanks man, the explanation was really useful
so kaede cannot do any of the counters right?
Glad to see an tutorial on this I waited so long to see mechanics in this series covered!
so thats how i was doing it lol
Is that a skill mechanic in the game or a skill that need to be unlocked first
It's just a part of the game, doesn't need unlocking
*I am impressed, you covered all the major grounds of the Critical Strike 1-hit technique. thank you for this. I originally completely the entire game mostly with this technique. I just figured since other games like Ninja Gaiden have a similar technique that this game might, and sure enough it did.*
In your opinion, are these timing harder than Dark Souls and Bloodborne? I feel like I can never get the timing down right in this game yet I could in those games.
Onimusha is a bit rough in that regard. Getting the timing down for attacks is hard enough, but there are moments where I could swear I timed it properly and still missed it. It can feel rather inconsistent in some instances. This is partly why most people prefer Issen in Onimusha 2. It's definitely not just you.
Don't stop, though. Every attack has a different timing to it, so there's going to be a lot of trial-and-error figuring it out (don't worry, everyone gets knocked around more time than they care to admit in Onimusha). Like any skill, you get better the more you do it. Eventually you'll find a rhythm. Keep practicing.
As a DS & BB pro I think its much harder. Then again I just picked up this game on the switch and have had about 20 hours or so with ONI on an emulator. This game isn't as forgiving as Souls when it comes to recovering from damage so the consequences are tilted.
Can you please write the commands for each shot? The video is not very clear .....
There is a controller overlay in the corner of the video showing the commands. Are you having trouble with something?
The view of the joypad is not clear ..... if I could write every move, with the corresponding keys, it would be better ....
In addition, another information ..... to make the trophy of completion, with evaluation "S", can you do even with the extreme difficulty, challenging the Bishimon? Thx
@@isaacclark1809 Standard Flash : Attack
Repelling Flash: Block then Attack
And yes, you can get the S rank in in Ultimate Mode using the Bishamon Sword.
Thanks
counter attacks work on Marcellus in the remastered game. The final form of Marcellus will grant you a trophy if you hit him with a counter.
This game is really difficult. I don't know how to dodge the attacks of that snake demon...
It works on 2nd Marcellus phase in the original release as well. I just never realized that before! It's cool I was able to learn something new about this game so many years later.
I press the button at pretty much the same time the enemy attacks, but most of the time, nothing happens, I just get hit. Obviously, my timing is off, but I really feel like I did it right, because I know I can land a Tiger Drop anytime in the Yakuza games. What am I doing wrong?
I'm pretty sure Tiger Drop has a much more gracious window of opportunity than Issen. At least, it always felt that way to me.
Firstly, don't worry about mastering Issen against every enemy. Some are quite dangerous to risk taking a hit from and could be better taken care of using normal hits, magic, gun, or bow/arrow. Using Issen on those guys can be worried about later on when you're more confident.
The Bazuu and zombie soldiers telegraph their attacks way ahead of time, giving you plenty of time to anticipate. I recommend training against them to start.
Don't worry about attacking just yet, just try to understand the timing for when to block. Blocking has the advantage of not taking damage and letting you try for as long as you need. If you take a hit, then assume you pressed block too late and do it sooner. If you block and don't see the impact ring, assume you blocked too early and try it later the next time. Pay attention to whether or not you see the impact ring from a successful blocking Issen.
And remember to take note of when the enemy attack makes a "woosh" sound. That is the ideal time to center your timing around.
@@neonwir6750 Omg Thank you so much, Man. This is some detail I cannot find anywhere else.
So now, when I've mastered the timing of blocking, I just press the attack button instead blocking, right?
I kind of got frustrated, and stopped playing the game for a while. I thought, maybe when I'm more relaxed, I could learn it better. I will try again later ehehe
@@dumbass626 Yes, when you's performed a perfect block, you just press the attack button like a normal attack.