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- Here are the wildest changes I could find between the Harry Potter Books and the Harry Potter Movies. It's not all of them, but they're some of the most bewildering to me!
Comment below what your favorite (or least favorite) change was!
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I will never forgive Steve Kloves for changing Ron's reaction to Snape calling Hermione "an insufferable know-it-all". In the book Ron tells Snape "You asked a question and she knows the answer! Why ask if you don't want to be told?", but in the movie Ron simply looks over at Hermione and says "He's got a point ya know."
Kinda tragic he gutted Ron and a bunch of side characters and scenes to try and make a perfect Hermione in a vain attempt to ship her with Harry.
i like that change because she never raises her hand or gives other people a chance to answer it is annoying i know because I use to do that until i learned better
This! This is exactly what bugged me! Ron & Hermione had no chemistry in the film. It didn't help that Rupert was given that kind of lines either. This line was what determined it for me. Imagine, how much of a punch to the gut must have felt for her, after everything they've been through. Showing zero development and support, both as a friend and a character. Never mind about love interest. I wanted to shove my hand through the screen and slap him across his dumb face. The book reply was so much more superior, heartfelt and romantic. It made sense for them to end up together. There was respect, appreciation and camaraderie which had grown along with them and their interactions.
I f*cking love and agree 💯 with your comment! I was looking for it. Thank you 🙏 for pointing that exact scene out and including the quote from the book.🎉😊
This! This is exactly what bugged me. Ron & Hermione had no chemistry in the films. And it didn't help that Rupert was given that kind of awful lines, either. This is the scene that determined it for me. There was no character development or support as a friend, never mind as a love interest. No respect, appreciation or camaraderie, which should have grown along with them and their interactions. Imagine how much of a punch to the gut must have been for her. After everything they've been through.The book reply was infinitely more superior, heartfelt and romantic.
Thank you 🙏 for pointing it out and for including the actual quote from the book.
I was looking for this comment and I agree 💯 with you. 😊
Argh I can't even.
15:17 Funny thing to mention: When asked if Harry's eyes being blue would be an issue, J.K. told the movie people (idr who exactly it was) that it's no problem, it's just important that later on his mother would have the same colored eyes. They casted a brown eyed girl lmao.
😂
That’s from the 2011 conversation between her and Steve Kloves.
I just finished watching that and I’m wondering if TH-cam is showing me your comment because of that… 🤖 lol
They not only cast a brown-eyed girl, but shot scenes almost EXCLUSIVELY zoomed in to mere inches from her face lmao. Unmistakably deep, dark brown.
Brown eyes are so plain to look at. Not sure why they wouldn’t just listen to JKs desires… with Ron. The mother’s eyes. So much disgrace to the books
@@cxo9378 - I love my brown eyes! A lot! 🥹❤️
I loved Harry and Ginny in the books, I felt like I actually understood why Harry was falling in love with her and coming to terms with his feelings, in the movies I found myself rooting for Harry to end up with Luna. It felt a way more natural relationship and more chemistry between the actors.
The loss of the valentine's and other scenes in Chamber of Secrets really hurt the relationship in the films.
I still think it still came out of nowhere a little bit but I suppose that's how it was for harry. I sort of respect Rowling for not going down the route of romanticizing it. She could have easily filled the story with melodrama if Ron disapproved or whatever. it makes the books more comfortable to read as an adult as well.
I didn't like it in either, by that point in the books I thought harry had better relationship chemistry with Luna.
I liked Harry and ginny in the books the biggest issue is that we get very little time of them actually being a couple but the movie ginny just wasn't a character. All the weasleys got shafted.
@@aoife08619they were so concerned with propping up Hermione everyone else got pushed to the side.
Ron in the movies is very sad to watch sometimes. In the books, it is precisely rons character that helps hermione ground herself and take action when needed, even if it is against the rules sometimes, while hermiones character helps ron think before acting in certain scenarios, and lets him grow emotionally (e.g. the topic of houseelves). That is why they match so well, but need to work on their relationship. But that makes a good, realistic relationship.
Yeah, movie Ron is so frustrating to watch 😂
Indeed
Ron was Harry's Sam in the books. The film makers didn't need to dumb down Ron to make Hermione a girl boss. She was one in the books. It just was more balanced.
@@erincarter1469 typical feminism agenda i guess. No other reason makes sense to me
@@sullivans2004 Gamgee Lord of the Rings
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the most egregious change, the attack on the Burrow in half-blood prince. It literally had no reason to exist when they could’ve used that time to show Voldemort asking for a job at hogwarts
Or any of the other 20 things they cut from that book. They could have shown a better development of Harry and Ginny’s character instead of “shoes”
@@occheermommy agree, but I was thinking of one of my favorite bit of the book in contrast to my most hated scene in the movie. I don’t mind Bella being at the hogwarts battle, even though nothing suggested Voldemort wanted anyone from the Malfoy family outside of Draco to be there to kill Dumbledore. That’s another thing that pisses me off when people justify Delphine’s existence in the cursed child. People are just saying that because Helena was pregnant during filming. Even though Bellatrix was just as afraid of Voldemort as the others, even to the point of her reaction of terror at both the ministry, and in Malfoy manor when she saw Harry Ron and Hermione had the sword. As much as I loved the movies when they were coming out, I can’t enjoy them anymore because of things they cut. And that’s why I consider the play and movies to be a separate canon from the books. Because everytime I think about them, I feel like I’m bout to have an aneurism
@@tgiacin435 I’m sure my husband hates watching them with me because I’m like “in the book this happened”. I like the films to a certain point but honestly most of the time I only watch 1-3. After that the changes and cuts are too much for me too. Like all the extra “action” they added to Goblet of Fire. If u start thinking about it for half a second u realize they just released a full grown dragon on the grounds and all the adult wizards just sat there. It’s ridiculous.
@@occheermommy oh yeah, ironically with all the cuts or baffling changes, I keep forgetting that one. The original movies are fine for what they are, but even then, order of the phoenix was the more accurate of those later movies, and cutting out certain details just made so many plot holes that could’ve been explained away. I mean at least fantastic beasts didn’t break the book canon when they added the secret love child, or Naginni being a maladictas
I agree with you but I think that scene was pretty awesome tbf
Voldemort's death was definitely my biggest problem. In the movie they were alone (so no witnesses) and then Voldemort disintegrates when he dies (so no body). How does everyone else know the war is over and they can stop fighting? Did they take Harry's word for it?
I agree with everything you said, but there is one change I rather liked: Voldemort physically attacking Harry instead of using his wand. You can tell just how panicked and desperate he is when he’s willing to fight like a Muggle instead of using magic like he does for everything else.
@@gelchertI see your point but it goes against the very nature of Voldemort to be physical, he was so concerned with magical prowess and blood purity, I can only imagine Voldy would see it as beneath him to attack with his hands.
I personally hate the trope of unlimited magic being turned into the fight of 2 laser beams.
Witch Hat Atelier manga gets pretty creative with magic, I highly recommend it.
every spell in the movies is the "fling the opponent through the air while spinning them around" spell, the duel club scene is totally ruined by this
@@doltBmB Honestly, the only good duel in the movies was Dumbledore vs. Voldemort. I wish all the duels were like that one.
@ still suffers from the bad habit of overusing the priori incantatem effect after goblet of fire despite its supposed to be a one off thing, other than that it's good yeah
@@doltBmBI know it's two different directors but I always found it weird that Hermione uses bombarda to blow open a huge door wide open when she could've used alohamora as they were trying not to attract any attention in PoA and then in when it comes to the first DH movie, Harry doesn't do any of the spells on the bike to help Hagrid even expelliarmus, the one that gets him noticed but I do like how they gave Hedwig a heroic death inside of her dying in the cage like in the books. It would have been perfect if they combined the two imo, Hedwig dies protecting him and in a moment frustration, he uses that spell against the Death Eater and it makes it more obvious that he's the real Harry because of that.
The whole thing of why muggles don’t go in the Leaky Cauldron is glossed over a bit in the books on Harry’s first visit. He is looking at the sign and he notices the muggles seem to walk past as though they don’t even see it. That’s because they don’t see it. It has a charm on it.
I always figured it was something like Diagon Alley itself. It’s kind of funny to imagine that not being the case, and Muggle hipsters discovering it and turning it into the next trendy pub (much to the consternation of the wizards who just want to go shopping or chat with Tom the bartender).
Commas are your friend.
It's literally never occurred to me that the screaming book could be anything other than an alarm system.
Yeah, Ron was supposed to be the one with the answers/information about the magical world. They didn’t portray him well
Emma Watson once described Ron as being “just along for the ride,” which is 1. A maddeningly inaccurate description of Ron, and 2. A sadly accurate description of Movie Ron. It’s so bad that whenever the movies do let Ron do something heroic from the books (like saving Harry and destroying the locket Horcrux), it feels unearned.
That’s cuz they were too busy glazing stupid Emma Watson throughout all movies, making her seem ridiculously smart when in the books she is smart but still fairly believable
@abhisheklama1393 Exactly. Ron and Hermione balanced each other perfectly in the books - she’s more book-smart, while he’s much better at thinking on his feet. It’s honestly impressive how badly Steve Kloves mishandled their dynamic.
@@gelchert true, I call it the “Watson simp/glaze”. It’s not just Ron either. Even some of Harry’s idea have been given over to Hermione for some weird reason. The escape using the Dragon from Gringotts is one such example. It’s Harry’s idea but they give it to Hermione in the movies. It’s so stupid. Just because Emma was a bit popular at the time, they pretty much turned her into some 60 year old experienced witch trapped in a 17 year old’s body type shit
@gelchert Don't even get me started on the hortcrux scene. The fact that at the end, it was just played off for laughs enrages me. I still want my deeply emotional hug and moment dang it!
THE WORST change for me is and always will be the fact that in the film Gellert told Voldemort that it was Dumbledore who had the Elder wand. Because why, oh why did he do it in the film! I hate it because there's NO POINT in this change. It just killed the difference between these two dark wizards.
In the book, Grindelwald just told Voldemort to kill him, while he laughed in the face of death. Pretty badass way to go out. Plus he didn't sell out Dumbledore, indicating that he had more respect for Dumbledore than Voldemort.
@And when Harry tells Dumbledore this in the “King’s Cross” chapter, Dumbledore isn’t surprised. It says a lot about their relationship, especially that Dumbledore may not have completely misjudged Grindelwald after all.
@@leipzigergnomDumbledore and Grindelwald were canonically in love. Which makes Grindelwald’s preference to die instead of selling out Dumbledore that much more powerful, I think.
I'm guessing that because they cast such an un-assuming for the role and Gellert was depicted to be quite a flamboyant character, it was the director's way of making casual viewers go "Oooh woah who IS this?".
@@gordonchen9510 At least they didn’t make that mistake for the Fantastic Beasts movies…
Rita Skeeter was crucial in the 5th book. Hermione freed her from her tiny prison in exchange for her publishing Harry’s account of the graveyard the year prior.
No one believed his story before that.
Of course this plot point makes no sense if we didn’t get the animagus plot in the first place🤷♂️
I love her _because_ she's such a -vile, evil, loathsome- unapologetic, sell-out 🤣 But no, we would never share a cup of tea even if my life depended on it
Voldemort’s death is a really disappointing change, not just visually but thematically. Tom Riddle’s life mission was to escape his humanity, to be better and different than normal people, a superior being to muggles, something beyond a regular wizard and beyond death. His chosen name literally sounds like “flight of/from death” in French. In the end though, he is proven to be mortal, a man after all. Also, while this is more tangential, it’s important for the wizarding world that he leave a corpse. Last time he “died” he vanished for over a decade with his followers going underground only to resurface. It’s important that people see he is well and truly dead.
Ludo Bagman...Barty Crouch Sr's actual demise, Harry NOT feeling horcruxes if they are near, the Maze , Harry USES the invisibility cloak when checking out his original home and graveyard,
And all the quiditch matches they cut...which is a lot...
Are just a few extras 😊
Tbh, the only cut Quidditch match I'm mad about is the World Cup match.
Sorry but ludo bagman literally had no real reason for the story. As so many other things. Sure there is some nice world building. But also too much filler that never gets mentioned anywhere. Usually in fantasy everything has a meaning. But thats just not the case for HP. I like th books, but they aren't great works. Imho, the movies just elevated the story, cutting out most of the filler and especially improving on the dialogue a lot (!), which truly isnt greatly written in the books
@fritzschnitzmueller3768 Ludo was important for several reasons;
The Twins lose their money AND get no winnings. Harry's generosity saves them.
Ludo was accused of being a death eater..which is why Barty Crouch dislikes him
..and why Winky dislikes him.
He adds to the issues of making a deal with Goblins....which is foreshadowing the Trio's deal with Griphook.
And, he gets Arthur tickets in the Prime Minister's box...which leads to Harry losing his wand.
So. Pretty important side character.
@@rustysm8080 Also Ludo is an incompetent boss and he's the reason no one really investigates why a ministry employee went missing, if people went looking Voldemort would've maybe been found before he could get himself a new body. It shows off how incompetent the ministry is, it shows off how not doing due diligence after Voldemort's fall, and quickly sweeping everything away with rushed trials created a ministry that's not strict or strong enough to act on aything.
@Eagle3302PL it does indeed. It shows that incompetence is almost as bad as being on the side of evil.
Goblet of fire's adaptation is weird mostly because the director didn't read the book with most of the staff working around it
As far as the screaming book in the restricted section goes, as a kid I always just thought it was a random book, but as I got older I thought it might be "Magick Moste Evil", the one book in the library that references Horcruxes, the one that Tom Riddle found and later questioned Professor Slughorn about. To corroborate this theory, in HBP Chapter 18, Hermione recounts looking through the book for information, and noted that it let out a "ghostly wail". I thought this was pretty damn cool.
Oh that’s really cool!
Oh, my! That means Harry picked up a MAJOR clue and didn't realize it!
The potion being made by children is why it wasn't perfect duplication. That's how I justify it to myself. An ace wizard doing doing something the right way compared to sloppy kids doing something for the first time.
Either that, or Barty Crouch Jr. is just a really good vocal mimic (but still somehow can’t suppress the tongue-flicking tic that instantly outs him to his father).
Except in the scene of the seven Potters, none of the polyjuice Potters have their voice transformed. Aurors should be able to concoct a perfect polyjuice potion.
@@missanne2908Maybe the Polyjuice Potion was attained via Mundungus Fletcher since members of the order getting ingredients for it would be suspicious, and he simply bought a subpar potion off the black market? I don’t know, I don’t like writing for J.K. Rowling, but it seems like the most likely scenario to me.
@@Em-Eye-Ess I would say the most likely scenario is that the books are books, and movies are movies. The movies didn't change the voice along with the appearance so that audiences could more easily track who had taken the Polyjuice potion. This wasn't done with Barty Crouch Jr's transformation into Mad Eye Moody because the audience had never heard either of their voices, so using Moody's actual voice caused no confusion. There could be no such confusion is the books; J. K. Rowling made it clear who was actually speaking. If you go back to HPATCOS, the transformation was of both appearance and voice:
Harry ... called "Are you two okay?" Goyle's low rasp of a voice issued from his mouth.
"Yeah," came the deep growl of Crabbe from his right.
Solid video. I enjoy the fact that you don’t use an a.i. narrator, you use a reasonable speed of speech, and don’t do the annoying TH-camr voice inflection at the end of sentences
It’s all me! Scripts and everything. Glad you enjoyed it!
11:46 The leaky cauldron, like st. mungo's has anti muggle detection charms. To muggles they look like abandoned buildings and they walk past those places as if theyre not there, it's described right before Hagrid and Harry enter it
Once I got older and realized how much they butchered Ron, and how much they artificially propped up Hermione, the movies were totally ruined for me. Really the only one I still legitimately enjoy watching is Azkaban because that's actually a really well-made movie
That movie is easily the best. Cuarón is a great director, but sadly they couldn't get him to stick around for the rest of them. To me it stands head and shoulders over the rest
Ludo Bagman is my favorite cut character from Goblet of Fire. He’s the handsome, charming, slimey, cheating, bookie who steals the Weasley twins money when they won their bet about the World Cup fair and square. It’s why they accept when Harry offers them his prize money from the Triwizard Tournament. He was a fun character to read about and root against.
I read Lego Batman first and was confused for the whole comment
Finally a talking TH-camr that can speak clearly and doesnt slur their words constantly (e.g. Moon).
I try my best!
Lol, why are there so many
Talking for a long time is hard!
@@VaultLore it is surely, but they slur their words the whole time. You obviously have a higher standard of quality. Moon has very interesting topics, but sometimes I just cant stand the wishwash 😆
I’ll keep up the enunciation 😂
8:29 YESSS DAMN IT!! It ALWAYS annoyed me how after Goblet of Fire every wizard duel turned into a "Beam Struggle" like Dragon Ball Z! THESE ARE WIZARDS THEY DO MORE THAN SHOOT LAZERS. The Ministry fight between Dumbledoor and Voldemort is the best in the series, sumoning fire snakes. Turning glass to sand, actualy using creative and powerful looking spells not just "my green lazer is better than your red lazer"
The final battle between Harry and Voldermort is the change that I dislike the most. The final battle in the book is much more satisfying.
Agreed
I know right ... Harry Confronting Voldemort infront of everyone 👀. Such a badass 🔥 moment it was . And also telling everyone along with Voldemort... Who Snape actually was !!!
I hated the part in the movie where Harry tells Ron and Hermione that he's the last horcrux and was heading to the forest to die. Why was Hermione the only one who seemed upset about it? She hugs Harry but Ron just stands in the back doing nothing. He's supposed to be Harry's BESTFRIEND!
@@dgt07 And at the end of the _Half-Blood Prince_ movie, Hermione volunteers both herself and Ron to help Harry find the other Horcruxes, while Ron, again, just hangs around in the background and says nothing. Can you blame him for running away when Hermione signed him up for something like that, and essentially guilted him into going along with it?
Yeah, in the books Ron and Hermione had no idea he was going to die. They found out with the rest when Voldemort told that castle. I believe it's Ron who screams NO when he and the others run out to see Harry's body. And it's his voice that breaks the silencing spell Voldemort cast when Ron screams out, "He beat you!"
The Rita Skeeter animagus plot line isn’t a self insert by the author, it was a reference to the major British scandal involving journalists“bugging” prominent people for stories hence the animagus beetle/“bug” form. It’s loved by Brit’s and those in the know for its wizarding/muggle world parallels
I haven’t reread the books in ages but I vaguely remember a tank of brains in the ministry from book 5. Wish they hadn’t cut that part out, it’s a tank of brains!
And the brains attack you with thoughts given tentacle-like form, which can leave scarring.
A think tank.. if you will..
The department of mysteries was so interesting to read about
@@RD22x Yeah it really went full old school fairytale where really weird and slightly disturbing stuff was happening.
I'm late to this, but I just had to point out that in the first scene of the first movie, McGonagall says "I've been watching them all day. They're the worst sort of muggles ..." Etc. so they did include that's she's been watching them.
Regarding Regulus Black's story, I remember hearing that Kreacher was gonna be cut entirely, but Rowling made the director include him, saying he'll be important later.
Winky has been cut twice 😢 she was so important in book 4....
Sorry winky 😓
"Harry brings bravery, or whatever" is a hell of a tone-setter.
I know I'm not alone in this camp. The book magical duels are often creative, especially high level duels like Dumbledore Vs Voldy, and it included transformations, charms, jinxes, apparitions, and magical beasts. While in the movie, magical duels are often dumbed down to shooting lasers at each other than the dragon ball style Kamehameha clashes.
Agreed, no strategy at all in the movie, just pew pew pew
To be fair, Tommy boy already looks kinda like frieza.
It's a real shame
The duel between Dumbledore and Voldemort in the ministry of magic was the only fight I can actually remember BECAUSE it was more than just a laser light battle
I think it's more than just the duels, in the first 3 movies it seems like they tried to show as many different spells as possible: oculus reparo, petrificus totalus, bombarda, etc.. I don't know if it's just me but it seemed like in the movies at a certain point it was just expelliarmus over and over again and then it was replaced by stupefy.. it seemed like even Rowling caught wind of this and made it a thing in the books. In the battle of 7 Potters, Harry did a bunch of spells even making the side car or Hagrid's bike EXPLODE when it fell off when Hagrid activate the fire and you're telling me that out of all 7, Harry was the ONLY person to use expelliarmus so that they recognized him? That was the only one change that I liked in the movies, Hedwig didn't die in her cage but actively came back and sacrificed herself for Harry.
Tom the bartender becoming a hunchback comic character was....a decision.
I like to believe that bc they're second years the polyjuice potion didn't 100% work hence why you hear harry and rons voices. yes hermione is a brilliant witch already but we see in HBP that she's not the best at potions and i don't think snape would've made notes on every recipe if the books available to students were 100% accurate. it probably takes more than a year and a half of magical experience to decifer the best way to make the potion. i'd like to think hermione made the potion by the book but the book is wrong or missing a particular instruction to make it perfect.
I think the potion is also supposed to be quite difficult to make
With part is either very annoying or a plot hole in my opinion; they go through all this effort in 2nd year to get the _one_ book that tells you how o make it, but then it's in the 6th year textbook. There had to have been a 6th year taking potions in CoS that they could've nicked the book from for a few minutes and copied out the recipe from or, better yet, don't put it in Advanced Potion Making (nor make it a go-to solution for many of the later books when it ought to be hard to come by), because it's a seriously OP potion yet any 16 yo potioneer should apparently be able to make.
Edit: I do think the potion should either work or not, though, rather than the film's interpretation, because it changes your whole body and therefore your vocal cords which determines your voice. Hermione is exceptionally talented, a constant reminder of the injustice of pure-blood bias throughout the books, and some books, like Moste Potente Potions, might just give better instructions to a potentially deadly potion than a high school textbook, so there shouldn't be any "degree of effectivity" just because she's a 2nd year student
I think it's the fact that A) they are 12/13 years old trying to brew an advanced potion and B) it takes a month to brew, leaving plenty of room for failure especially because C) they're brewing in secret
@ealuesytain Then why does everyone in the 7th movie during Flight of the Potters scene still have their voices, too? That must have been made by a master. It's just easier for kids to keep track of who's who during a body swap episode by keeping the voices the same. They do it in cartoons all the time, so they just did it here and kept it that way in the last movies, too.
@@mistv901 it was probably made by snape or someone of similar skill.
It is a plot hole for the movie. if the potion didn’t change your voice barty crouch jr’s plan would have been immediately foiled.
In the film his voice is the only one that changes as seen in the deathly hallows when the trio go to gringotts. I’m pretty sure in the books all their voices change every single time but i can’t remember.
Been loving the content, am sure this video will be great too when i watch in completion, i love that you dont include sound clips or have unnecessary loud noises throughout the iceberg videos. These are so good to sleep to because of that so please dont ever change the format!
Thanks for watching!! Glad you’re liking them!
Ron was the voice of the wizarding world in the books .. Giving his lines to Hermione often didn't make sense, as a Muggle born. There's already one comic relief character in the early movies - Neville. Why did they need to make Ron one also?
I always remember McGonagall observing the Dursleys because she's sat on the wall all day on 1 November, during term time! Why the f*** is she not teaching? 😂
Was Hogwarts partying as hard as the rest of the wizarding world? You probably couldn't teach much on that day anyways.
Maybe lessons got cancelled that day to celebrate Voldermort's downfall. I also looked up what day November 1, 1981 fell on, and it fell on a Sunday so there would be no lessons anyway, but the writing clearly makes it a weekday as the chapter follows Vernon as he goes about his normal workday.
Every now and then, the movie gets something better over the books. Several movies, for example, toned down some of the 'argument' scenes and it benefited the story. Deathly Hallows: Part 1 has Hermione maybe mention only once that Harry shouldn't be allowed to look into Voldemort's mind and Harry tells her he's going to do it anyways and that's the end of the discussion.
In the book, she keeps moaning on about it and it gets frustrating, because it's not like Harry wishes for all of this and Hermione is pre-judging something she isn't experiencing herself. I mean, yeah, she's right, but it goes into the territory of annoying that you would be satisfied if Harry just gave her a big slap right there, which I highly doubt is the intention.
On the flipside, it's nice when the movie remembers it's own continuity. Like movie 5 where she mentions that she saw Harry summon a patronus, an event she wasn't present for in the book.
At the end of the series, iirc, Harry repairs his original wand with the Elder wand. Then the Elder wand was reburied with Dumbledore, Harry knowing his own passing would make it's magic moot.
But I definitely remember Harry fixing his wand with it, because it was an old friend.
Yeah, from what I remember he fixed his wand and then left the Elder Wand in the Headmaster's desk so "It won't ever have another master"
Harry becoming an auror kinda screws it up, though. Doesn't it? Aurors, I would assume, get into magical battles relatively often. So Harry would have to live out his whole life without ever getting defeated or even disarmed.
I think the best option here would've been combining both versions of the events.
1. Harry fixes his wand.
2. Then Harry destroys the Elder Wand.
@@ThePreciseClimber That's a fantastic point, I didn't think of that! And I agree!
@@MoonyMckayNetworkHarry tells Dumbledore’s portrait that he’s going to put the Elder Wand back where it came from, i.e., Dumbledore’s tomb. As long as no one knows it’s there besides Ron and Hermione (who are with Harry when he says this), it’s a pretty solid plan.
The scene I missed most was Harry's repairing his holly and phoenix feather wand. It was a tragedy that the entire scene in the Headmaster's Office was cut, but the repairing of the wand most of all. Harry had lost so much due to Voldemort and the Death Eaters, that he was able to get his wand back in working order was emotionally satisfying. Movie Harry did make the better decision to destroy the wand. As it was in the book, some evil witch/wizard could try to defeat Harry, thinking he still had the elder wand in his possession.
30:04 I hate how they inserted that scene and had Hermione throw herself at Harry and hug him in desperate tears while Ron just stood there looking bored and uncomfortable. They did everything they possibly could to ruin Ron's character and make him look like a horrible friend and boyfriend. It looks like he couldn't care less about Harry dying, when in reality he was always Harry's best friend over Hermione
Common sense is a very good description of Ron’s role in the trio. And also the source of information about wizard’s customs, since he’s the only one who grew up in wizarding family.
It has been a decade since I read the books, but I do remember more of Ginny being a badass, cursing people with the bat bogey hex. They cut nearly all of Harry and Ginny's relationship. Would have loved to see this scene.
"You'd think people had better things to gossip about," said Ginny, as she sat on the common-room floor, leaning against Harry's legs and reading the Daily Prophet. "Three Dementor attacks in a week, and all Romilda Vane does is ask me if it's true you've got a Hippogriff tattooed across your chest."
Ron and Hermione both roared with laughter. Harry ignored them.
"What did you tell her?"
"I told her it's a Hungarian Horntail," said Ginny, turning a page of the newspaper idly. "Much more macho."
"Thanks," said Harry, grinning. "And what did you tell her Ron's got?"
"A Pygmy Puff, but I didn't say where."
Ron scowled as Hermione rolled around laughing . . .
Also the scene where while under the effect of Felix Felicis, Harry starts a fight between Ginny and her boyfriend Dean.
Getting through the portrait hole was simple; as he approached it, Ginny and Dean came through it, and Harry was able to slip between them. As he did so, he brushed accidentally against Ginny.
“Don’t push me, please, Dean,” she said, sounding annoyed. “You’re always doing that, I can get through perfectly well on my own…”
The portrait swung closed behind Harry, but not before he had heard Dean make an angry retort… His feeling of elation increasing, Harry strode off through the castle. He did not have to creep along, for he met nobody on his way, but this did not surprise him in the slightest: This evening, he was the luckiest person at Hogwarts.
@@adrianonhilton Great example. I’d also include her becoming a good Quidditch player just by stealing her brothers’ brooms and practicing flying while they weren’t looking.
41:10 I think the other thing that I dislike about the Invisibility Cloak in the movies vs. Books is how it is worn. In the books, it is clearly described to have a hood. Imagine Frodo’s cloak, as an example. It seems to me like in the books, it is a medieval cloak with a hood that makes the wearer completely invisible when worn, even when those parts of the body are not fully covered. One simply has to wear it to become invisible. Mind you, the floating head thing may still be a thing of the hood is not pulled over the head. Contrast this with the movie, and it appears to more or less be a cape than a cloak, with Harry having to pull this over his head to hide his whole body. This also leads to the phasing out of the cloak more quickly, as Daniel Radcliffe and his costars aged and got taller.
Haha the fact that it’s basically a tarp in the movies makes it so strange
@@VaultLoreright? Like, why is he holding it up with his hand? He should be wearing it…especially since they later explain that there are other invisibility cloaks made based off the deathly hallows. However, these tend to fade until they just make you slightly translucent.
I think the issue is that if it has a hood… how does it hide your face? Like even if it’s a poncho, what happens with the face hole?
Dumbledore in the 4th and 5th movies is so unlike the character in the books.
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17:38 I will never understand why it’s such a plot point that both Harry and his father have messy black hair, and then in this flashback where who they cast is really inconsequential they cast a boy with light brown hair 🙄 like the only requirement for that casting is that he’s instantly recognisable as James Potter for this brief glance we get of him, and the books provide a very easy and obvious short hand for telling us “this is James Potter,” and they were like, nah.
Hermione is a Mary Sue character in the movies, but is done very well in the books...and Book Hermione is really awesome. 😊
Absolutely she is and no offense to Emma Watson but I didn't like her in the movies at all.
@BlackangelKatakuri I think Emma Watson AT THE TIME of the movies was likely a pretty intelligent, nice young person.
4 years of indoctrination, however, and I doubt she could define "woman" .
Sad, really.
@@BlackangelKatakuri me too kkkkkkk
Steve Kloves is a dork with a obsessive Hermione bias and it SHOWS, it REALLY SHOWS.
Yeah. It really did show…
Well…..JKR APPROVED ALL THE CHANGES….AND HERMIONE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE “JKR”.
So it was NOT just him.
@lynnerose7891 Yeah it makes sense .
The priory incataitum bit always gets me because while the connection is unique to Harry and Voldemort, meanwhile they overlook the version of the spell Barty Crouch did to see if Harry’s wand casted the dark mark
Yay very inconsistent and annoying at times
It isn't truly "unique" to Harry and Voldemort. It's unique to two wizards/witches using Brother Wands, if I recall correctly. Which is extremely rare, yes, but that means it can't be unique only to Harry and Voldemort. It's a sort of... "feature" that comes with Wand Lore.
@@dragonmaster1360 I say unique because as far as we’ve seen, the twin cores was only seen with Harry and Voldemort’s wands. Though I do wonder if twin cores aren’t uncommon
Also 19:40 Lupin forgot the marauders map when rushing to the SS, so when Snape came with Wolfsbane he noticed the map and followed, I don't remember, but i think Snape took it with him.
No he didn't; that would be why Lupin was able to give it back to Harry before he left.
@@kyleethekelt oh, alright 👍
I have more evidence considering I have read the books now. Snape got lured to the SS by Sirius, so he does know how to get past Whillow.
Also this is why Snape knows about Harry's map going forward
The best part about Voldemort's death in the books is that he died like a human. The only thing Tom Riddle ever feared was death and despite going to extremes by creating horcuxes and splitting his soul into 8 pieces, he was still a human. However, the way he dies in the movie series, it felt as if, Tom Riddle had succeeded his goals and now, not only is he immortal but omnipresent as his being is spread across the world.
We’re all breathing his dust in 😂
I will never forgive the assassination of Ron, and the mutation of Hermione from an interesting and complex character, into a ridiculous, grotesque mary-sue.
Movies did Ron dirty for sure, but not compared to Ginny
Dude ... Only reason Movie Ginny existed 😢 was , screenwriter couldn't go against canon !
Or else they would have just set up Harry - Hermione 😐😣😶
Damn you Movie makers...!
Not compared to Ginny no, but in my opinion it’s way worse to do Ron that dirty considering how he’s part of the main 3 and is the 2nd most mentioned character in the books after Harry, like messing up a character that’s a main one like that is a crime. Ginny is very frustrating, but to be fair she does randomly change and become a badass seemingly out of nowhere and Harry suddenly likes her. It’s not the same as a full on main character though
@@clover2739 It's fact that ... Both Ron & Ginny were butchered .
But atleast Ron got few of his moments somewhere around
With Ginny , they completely messed up her character arc transition which started at start of Order of Phoenix. We can see lots of moments where she was strong enough to speak up against & for Harry , against people who were disrespectful to Luna , participating in battle of ministry etc . And this was Main thing to be developed because it was Whole damn reason Harry actually fell for her . But u can see how they spoiled it & Their pair made no sense .
Messing up the whole character & their whole love story is bit more than Ron's charcter ( which atleast shined in some moments)
Give me one moment where Ginny was true to books . We can't 😕😔 !!!
@@Dr.MonicaNaik Ron should’ve at least gotten some moments… considering how he’s a main character who is the most mentioned after Harry. That’s my point, I’m not saying Ginny wasn’t butchered. I’m saying that it’s worse to butcher a main character as significant as Ron. Ginny is badass yes, but she’s badly written either way in my opinion and it felt like she became cool all of a sudden so Harry would see her as a love interest. I would’ve liked her to have personality I’m her movies obviously, but messing up the 2nd mentioned character when he has all that material is insane
@@clover2739 I agree with Ron part with u . Whereas I think we will he having debate about our perspectives on Ginny 😅😊 ! Because as far as I know from books she was badass from start ... Like stealing brother' brooms at Burrow, sneaking into Boys dormitory for Tom riddle diary , dealing with a soul trauma at age 11 and many more . She was always strong but couldn't bring it together infront of Harry bcoz of her childhood crush .
But it's okay to have our own opinions ✌️& coexist 😊
The scene that gets my goat is the dual between Harry and Draco in chamber. No matter what spell is cast, the opponent is blasted off their feet (include Lockhart). Same effect. Tickling charm = Draco is blasted back to the floor! Also I amazed that no reactor channel comments in Prisoner, that why could Lupin read the Marauder's map as there was no background and why Lupid and Snape knew they were in the shrieking shack. Big film plot holes.
Another two things from the order of the phoenix that are not in the movies are:
1. Hermione and Ron being prefects
2. Harry's, Fred's and George's quidditch ban in fith year
And especially with the first one i feel like it adds a bit to the story but wouldnt take a lot of time to introduce to the movie
To me, the worse change is the absence of peeves
"Oh Potter, you rotter, oh, what have you done?
You're killing off students, you think it's good fun!"
😂 I loved his stupid taunts and songs at the most inappropriate times
@leipzigergnom or how he went ballistic on umbridge
@ Legendary. And the fact that Fred and George were such troublemakers that Peeves saluted them when they left the school. Good times
From what I’ve heard, they were planning to include him in the first movie, played by British comic actor Rik Mayall (a perfect casting, if you ask me). They cut his scenes before the VFX were finished, and even though Chris Columbus said he hoped he could finish the scenes and include them in the DVD extras, he never got around to it.
The trio in the books balance eachother well, while the movies make Harry brave (and semi competent), Hermione flawless and Ron a loyal idiot who essentially just ends up acting like an "in" for Harry and Hermione to get close to Molly and Arthur as parental figures.
Like, even if you ignore the romance between Hermione and Ron, the three in the books are still an inseperable _trio_. While in the movies Ron is just an extra set of hands.....
And the sad thing is that Rupert Grint would have been awesome as a more book authentic Ron.
loved the video. just finished watching deathly hallows 2 and i just wanna add something to your last point, how the death of voldemort was changed in the movies. there was also one other change to the book in his scene - in the book, they fought in the great hall and they were just circling around each other while harry told voldy the truth about severus with everyone watching, essentially clearing his name. i was really disappointed that the movie brought this scene down to just a little convo between only harry and voldemort.
Ah yeah that’s true, they really reduced it to such a tiny moment in the movies. Thanks for watching!!
15:15 Actors wearing contacts actually looks really bad. The iris is concave and catches light on the opposite side of the light direction, and the lens refracts the light creating a unique distortion when seen from the side. This gives the eyes the depth and life we humans are used to seeing.
Colored contact lenses completely blocks that as it's just a flat colored object with a fixed hole for the pupil and pupil dilation would also be obscured.
It simply makes the eyes look completely dead and a bit uncanny.
So glad they didn't do that.
I think colored contacts have come a long way since 2001. Heck, even in 2009, I had classmates who were wearing convincing colored contacts
Not going to address Harry not repairing his wand before returning the Elder Wand to Dumbledore's tomb? I don't mind him snapping the Wand (although, could he realistically snap a relic of death himself like it's a twig...?), but he didn't repair his wand!!! A wand isn't just a tool. It's a (potentially) living thing with thoughts and allegiances of its own, and it's an extention of the wizard! On top of that, finding another suitable wand is going to be difficult, at best. All of us that read the books remember vividly how Hermione's wand seemed to resist him, how all his magick was weaker and less reliable with her wand.
He should have repaired his wand!
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Just made my morning cup of coffee excited to start this one.
Enjoy!
The 4th movie kept the names of the book and the names of the characters and that's about it. If there are no movie 4 haters then I am dead
Honestly can’t stand movie 4 haha
The 4th movie is quite goofy and probably the weakest film in the series. However I just finished re reading the 4th book and I absolutely loved it
@@kjames3504 yeah the book is great, one of the reasons i hate the movie and its director so much
Yeah the 4th and sixth movies are my least favourite due to how butchered they became with so many important characters, lore and plot points left out completely.
I can't believe you didn't mention the *egregious* alteration of the end of Half-Blood Prince. In the book, the Trio discuss the future *together* - in the film, Harry and Hermione discuss the future, while Ron sits well away from them, in the shadows, making no contribution to the discussion. He is reduced in the film to nothing more than a bystander. This is one of the worst scenes in any of the films, because it makes a character central to the story into a mere irrelevance.
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Books are better than movies but it only depends on whether you are a person with more imagination and creativity or whether you have less of these qualities, people who enjoy movies more tend to want linear entertainment and book enjoyers tend to want complete immersion. Personally, reading a book is like watching a million versions of a movie, a story that you can visualize boundlessly whereas movies are one captured version of said story. A great movie is amazing but a great book is on another level again.
True, time and place for everything. Nothing like a giant bowl of popcorn and blasting movie speakers.
@@VaultLore 💯
i love reading but i'm so bad at finishing a book series 😂
I'm sure you will be more than willing to share some of that imagination with us. Show us your character & location designs.
Great job, homie. I'm loving your content more and more!
I think Peeves and Winky the house elf are the 2 most important cut characters. They were both so integral to the story imo.
What about a list of things that you personally think were "better" in the movies than in the book? We all know the books are better, but the movies DID get a few good shots in over the books. I can think of a couple specific examples but im interested in yours
Thats a good idea too! I think my next one is going to be first draft changes the JKR made, like cut plot lines that didn't make it into the books, but things the movie does better could be a good video!
thanks for the support as always!
I like the scene with Dudley at the zoo better. The glass reappearing and him getting stuck. And the snake only saying thanks so Harry may not realize he could talk to snakes at that place.
@@hallbjornthefirebreather8376 I think the _Order of the Phoenix_ movie handled the end of the DA a lot better. It’s much less convoluted, it makes both Hermione and Cho look much better, and it’s in character for Umbridge to keep summoning students to her office and sneaking them Veritaserum until they tell her what she wants to know.
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Maybe the death eaters in the movies ARE apparating and disapparating.
They do it in a way that they flicker in and out, making it look like they’re flying. The black smoke is just a kind of flourish, as a sort of intimidation display… or to hide the fact that they ARE apparating, and not actually flying.
So a death eater apparates to a point in the sky, then flickers in and out as they drop from that apex, trailing smoke behind them as they travel.
What I find weird about this scene still is that the order of the phoenix ppl ALSO do the same but with golden smoke behind them, but this is never shown again to happen after this scene for any of the “good guys”. And i think yes you can see the deatheaters flying a bit jumpy here and there, but then in the 6th part, you can clearly see them flying uninterrupted against the magical walls around hogwarts as well as into diagon alley for their kidnapping mission
In The Half-Blood Prince, Draco is only able to disarm Dumbledore because Dumbledore was using that last moment to put a binding spell on Harry, so that Harry couldn't move and would stay hidden. But in the movies, Dumbledore is easily disarmed by Draco even though he should've been able to stop that. That bothered me.
In the book, Dumbledore knew that Harry would try to fight the Death Eaters to save Dumbledore, so he used his last spell to stop Harry from potentially getting himself killed.
Priori incantatem wasn’t the beams clashing it was the echoes of his victims appearing that was unique. Priori incantatem by itself is just a prior use spell and is just used to explain why Harry saw these echoes. However I don’t like how some spells are invisible and some aren’t and how specific wand motions and movement for certain spells became irrelevant and they just point and cast whatever. And why was dumbledore vs Voldemort in book 5 wayyyy better than Harry’s final battle.
The movies are totally crap compared to the books, the changes and additions are ridiculous, especially in the 5th and 6th movies, also I never liked Michael Gambon as Dumbledore he never had the Dumbledore feeling if you know him in the books you'll see that he's a totally different character, Richard Harris was the perfect Dumbledore, I hate what they did to him in the movies. The Halfblood Prince is my favorite book, but it's the 2nd worst movies only losing to the Order of the Phoenix, why? Because THEY ADDED so much shitty scenes that are not in the books instead of actually showing the amazing parts of it, like VOldemort's past and his family, the relationship between Harry and Gina, why Snape is called the halfblood prince, and so much more, that scene at the beginning with the waitress LOL what a fucking waste of screen time. But the biggest disgrace to this universe has a name : David fucking Yates, if they really wanna be faithful to the books in the upcoming series, they can't repeat the same mistakes, don't ever let David Yates come even near Harry Potter.
I hate how the movie gave everything ron does to hermoine
Such an amazing and informative video!! I'd love for you to do one for the Hunger Games 🙌🏾🔥
You make some of the best Harry Potter content
You are the best viewer!
it would be super cool to maybe see a collab between this crator and those two brothers who do what if cenarios. can you imagine an iceberg of alternate realities like harry being in slytherin or neville being the chosen one?! if it was a collab then there wouldn't be a risk of copyright stuff and could bring new viewers to both channels.
I think the biggest change that is never ever talked about is the mirror that serious gave harry at the beginning of the order of the phoenix no one ever talks about it I mean the mirror is what made harry realize that he really was dead at the end of the book and it becomes crucial in the over all story by the end but yet it’s no where to be found till the last 2 movies and harry just magically has a piece of it with absolutely zero explanation as to why or how
I watched the movies first and I was so confused 🤣
@ same though
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Thanks for watching!!
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Also I think that Alan Richman was really good as Snape especially in the last couple of films and in Deathly Hallows pt2 when the line " For him" being removed as in my opinion that choice it shows Snape as a more caring and heroic character as he not only cared of lily but he deeply cares of Harry which adds to the tragedy of his death
Yeah, I think Alan Rickman was a better snape than we got in the books. The snape we deserved.
Was that line removed? I could have sworn that it was still in the movie.
I also love that his last line in the movies is “You have your mother’s eyes,” implying that he’s finally seeing Harry as Lily’s son and not just James’s.
Back in the day before the end of the 7th book, the consensus was Harry would be permanently killed, everyone was convinced of it, so when he springs back to life the reader almost jumps out of their seat in joy
Agree with you. Ron is my biggest problem with the movies.
But Mcgonagall did say she have been watching the Dursley, you dont need to show everything from the book.
I agree with everything you said. The TV series better fix all of the movie nonsense.
14:29 - The Avada Kedavra curse is green. That's the connection I always made
So did most fanfiction writers seeing as I keep seeing "Avada Kedavra green" or "killing curse colored eyes" in reference to Harry's eye color
Even before we know what the curse is called, Rowling mentions that Harry had recurring nightmares that include a flash of green light (which we later learn is actually his memory of Voldemort killing his father). You might be on to something - or it could just be that green is a relatively uncommon eye color, so characters who know both Lily and Harry tend to notice that they both have them.
I think the reason all Ron’s good ideas and scenes went to Hermione is because the director had a hard on for the Harry x Hermione ship and wanted to make her perfect
@@TravisBrister Not the director, but Steve Kloves, who wrote all of the movies except _Order of the Phoenix,_ has said Hermione is his favorite. Unfortunately for fans of the books, we can all tell.
@ oh shit thanks for the correction man and good video
6:00 literally first time I've ever heard any reference why this happens so much in the movies
Hey, a piece of advice - old video, I know : if you put images on top of a moving background (like the fields), the images will end up lower quality because the youtube compression prioritises moving elements. The animated background doesnt do much imo, so I'd focus on the images.
I didn’t mind a lot of the changes from the book because of how minor some were in relation to the overall plot.
But Ginny was definitely done dirty.
Everything in this video is the exact reason I’m so excited for them to reboot it as a TV series. Blows my mind that some people think the films are these flawless adaptations
Agreed. They're fine, but they're far from great. Harry Potter needs a good adaptation.
I have a theory about polyjuice potion in the movies.
Perhaps there is a magical perception filter involved, where those people in the know hear the original voices, but anyone unaware of its use just hears what the disguise is supposed to sound like?
This would explain why Draco doesn't comment on Goyle sounding like Harry Potter in movie 2, nobody realised Moody isn't Moody in number 4, and nobody points out that Hermione doesn't sound like Bellatrix in movie 8.
Whereas in movie 7, Harry knows who the 6 people using the potion are, so he (and we the viewers) hear their original voices. Just an idea!
The Leaking Couldron can't be seen by Muggles, as Dumbledore mentions to Tom Riddle in the Orphanage memory in "Half Blood Prince"
So it’s a platform 9 3/4 situation
@@VaultLoreSomething like that or St. Mungo's that looks like a closed store no one pays attention to. Maybe its a boarded off place or something like that for Muggles, we can only guess but they would not stroll into the Leaky Cauldron because they cant.
@@kirikayuumura5370I always wonder how muggles see it. And what would happen if a car Crash or something happens and a car drives right in there or something
@@kirikayuumura5370 it's not disguised like that, in PS Harry notices that people who walk past simply cannot see it. their eyes jump from the shop on one side to the shop on the other
Harry book vs potter movie
Yes, the screaming book was absolutely an alarm spell to alert staff to unregistered access to the restricted section.
Skeeter is the one who wrote Harry’s interview about Voldemort’s return ans she is the one who wrote the book about Dumbledore’s secrets, she’s not a central character but she’s not irrelevant either.
4th movie is a fail comedy with tonal whiplash.
5th.. I don't even know what they’re trying to achieve.
6th movie is a cringey teen romance trying to ride the Twilight train.
Holy crap! Moody with secretly a ferret in the third movie all along!? Moody in Prisoner of Azkaban confirmed!
there's another change you didn't mention.
the fate of the elder wand. in the books, harry returns the wand to dumbledore's tomb while, in the movie, harry breaks the wand.
funny enough. the movie version makes more sense since it ensures nobody will ever bother to try to find the wand but, for some reason, I believe harry would go with the books version. the wand was dumbledore's. it feels disrespectful to just break it and throw it away.
3:09 He also stands up on a broken leg and SHOVES Harry behind him as if trying to shield him with his very body. They even gave that last bit to Hermione, too. And then later when he finds out about Peter, he stands again on his now splinted but still broken leg and growls for them to chain Peter to him. Yeah, hits a little different.
The movies just never did it for me. I don’t think I watched more than 2 of them. But my god, I tore through those books. Actually, “Harry Potter” is usually what comes to mind whenever I hear ppl say “the books were better.”
As a kid I also assumed the book was cursed or evil or something and that's why it screamed. But in one of the spin off books there's a foreword written by Dumbledore who mentiones that Madam Pince, the librarian takes protecting the books very seriously and has put spells on some of them, for example one attacked him after he scribbled in it absent mindedly. So now it feels much more like something Madam Pince would have put on the book.
I’m gonna need a twilight video, more anime content, more everything please
Haha Idk about twilight, but maybe others
On the polyjuice. YOUR VOCAL CORDS BECOME THEIRS OFC UR VOICE WOULD CHANGE LIKE WHAAT it be harder to make em not change
Regarding Quirell’s death, Dumbledore said that Voldemort killed him. Whilst in movie it’s Harry who gets points for killing a teacher 😂😂😂 (160 points!)
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I have two other problems with the books versus the movies. 1. the Death Eater raid on The Burrow. Doesn't happen in the literary version and is completely unnecessary. Instead, the time should have been used to deal with the Horcruxes. This also applies to (2.) Harry's mirror. It appears out of nowhere in the last movie and is not explained at all.