Toyota Needle Bearing Yukon Upgrade Bushing Install Stopped Steering Wobble (Did it go away in 4wd?)
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- After getting my 2011 Tacoma and joining FB groups and really researching parts and known issues I kept hearing about this needle bearing going bad. That it can go so bad a $70 part can break and get into your front diff causing potentially thousands in damages. The original part for reference is IFS 8" Clamshell SD20B
My Tacoma had 63k miles when I got it, and I didn't notice the typical symptoms of the bad needle bearing- vibrations you feel in the floorboard and a wobbling steering wheel. I threw on a 3" lift and some other updates and towed a car on a dolly and drove a 14 hour round trip to get a topper, and within 6 months after my lift I noticed I was getting the vibration in the floor and the steering wheel wobbles. The wobbly steering wheel got to the point I couldn't NOT notice it anymore. Would it have gone bad anyways, did the lift expedite the bearing going bad?
So, more research and after a couple months not really driving the Tacoma much, I decided not to let this part ruin anything else on the truck. I ordered the Yukon "YB AX-018" bushing for the 8" Toyota clamshell SD20B front end and made a post asking if anyone had their one-time-use bearing puller and driver kit they might have bought or borrowed to do the same job. A nice guy about 45 minutes away had it and I was able to get it picked up a few days before doing this job, and I got the job done 3 days before posting this video on 4-11-22.
As mentioned in the video, there is no difference between this brand and the ECGS brand. There's another brand called Nitro I think that offers the same bushing. ECGS wanted to charge me $15 shipping, so they lost out.
This is not an extremely technical job, but it is very demanding if you don't have a lift and all the right tools at arms length. I had 2 quotes for this job 1 by ECGS and the other by Apex Offroad, the quotes were ECGS $250 and Apex $178. I paid $75 for the Yukon bushing and installed it myself with a borrowed tool kit. It was nice to save some money but even though this job was difficult I would say I also got to learn more and experience my truck in a different way.
I recommend this product and can vouch that it fixed the issue.
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Did mine this weekend on my gen 2 toco. I didnt have the same play yours had, but i replaced it as preventive measures since i installed the bilstein 5100 with the 2 inch lift. The only issue i had was when it came to changing the diff seal. As an fyi to anyone the pasanger side and driverside seals are different sizes. The passenger side uses a way bigger ball bearing, in turn uses a different seal. If you call toyota they call it an oil seal. It was a pain trying to get the correct one not knowing its called an oil seal. So driverside diff seal. Passenger side oil seal. Great video the one you have is the one for the passenger side.
@Dan Bacarra that's good to know about the seal being for passenger side. Thankfully I was able to reuse my old driver side since it wasn't damaged and returned the wrong side! Might as well replace the needle bearing while you're in there! Thanks for the comment!
Thanks Sean . I believe that axle seal you are showing is for the passenger side . I just ordered the kit and asked for a passenger side seal to be sent with the kit because I'm changing out both axles also . So I have the same part number on my second seal that is separate from the kit .thanks for the video its very detailed . It will be very helpful next weekend
@timothyroarty5342 I never got around to figuring out why the seal was wrong. Ordered for the driver side you never known what you're gonna get! Thanks for the reply and hope your install goes smoothly next weekend!! What are you changing your axles to? OEM or an upgrade?
Would this fit a 2001 Toyota Tacoma sr5 or would it be different one
@johnny-k6l you can use the part number and cross reference what it fits but I can't imagine it's the same part though. Is this an issue on a gen 1?
Your videos was awesome 👌 man thank you see my axles have a bunchbof play and there is a vibration in front end but I don't have the wheel wobble at all.
your method of leaving the the wheel bearing assembly attached was a godsend! i was expecting to spend an entire day following the normal process that every other youtube video shows. but i was able to complete the entire process in just under 3 hours, start to finish. i would highly recommend this video to anyone else needing to change the needle bearing! 5 stars
@mrid10t thanks for checking out the video. I thought this method was more handy as well.
Cool Video!! Very Much Enjoyed It!! Keep Up The Great Work!!! P.S. I can Feel Your Pain!! I Too Do Most Of My Vehicle Work Ground Up!!!
@Nathan Johnson thanks! I hope to do a driveshaft carrier bushing and carrier drop kit install soon.
Hey, I lifted my truck and mine has a vibration at 60-65mph, but I can't feel it in the steering wheel, do you think it's the needle bearing?
@JW45-70 put it in 4wd and see if it goes away, that's a telltale sign of a bad needle bearing. Check the play in the drive shaft at the center carrier bearing if there is play or the rubber is cracked up it's shot. That causes vibration too.
Did you do both sides, would you recommend doing both sides if its only 1 side failing?
@SierraYankeeSierraZeroPappa just driver side is a known problem, passenger side isn't built the same, no need to change it. Thanks for asking!
Hey nice job on video! very informative and helpful. Thanks.
@Larry Petrole thank you for watching and share with whoever could use it!
Anybody have a humming noise after clamshell bearing install?
@Edward Trevino I haven't witnessed it myself nor have I seen any posts with this issue after a clamshell bushing install. Maybe something got messed up during your install or a new problem was created?
Hello there great video one question does this part is good for 3rd gen Tacoma as well? Thanks 😊
@TACOMARULE thanks for the comment.
This fits up through current Tacoma models.
Best video I have seen on this yet. The other one I saw made the whole thing look way too complicated. This actually looks doable.
@Richy Bubulinski I decided to make my own video after watching some others that either skipped steps or dead ended not finishing the job. Thanks for checking this out and for the replies!
So I replaced the needle bearing with the ECGS bearing few days ago.
CV Axle is tight again, but there's still a humming noise coming from the front driver side.. ive put in several hundred miles already and the noise is still present, just like when the needle bearing was going out.
I've checked the passenger side and that axle is tight.
Pulleys are all fine
Did you have this issue after replacing it?
@FiveFoot mine was never making a noise. You may have cv joint or axle bearing noise. Pull the wheel and spin the axle and see if you can hear it. It may sound or feel grindy with no weight, but at speed with weight it comes across as a whine or squeal.
@@ShawnMartinNCBIRDMAN axle bearings are all good. Did the wiggle test while the front was off the ground and there wasnt any play top/bottom or left/right from each axle. Spun the tires and all sound good. No grinding noise.
@@temosgarage odd.
@@temosgarageever figure this out bud?
@@JandCCards yes the noise went away by itself after about 100 miles of highway driving. Guessing break in film 🤷🏽♂️ all good now. It’s been solid since then.
Did you put in a new cv axle too? I have the same play, but i wanna keep it if it doesn’t need to be replaced
@SuperSymun just the bushing. The after video shows the play is gone just replacing the needle bearing.
Great job. Only one question why not just buy a new axle seal too? not expensive i cant see re-using. Great tutorial and so glad to see just how it is done, with all the info is great for someone who has not taken one apart so far. I'm sure it's same for the 4runner. I wonder how many miles they are rated for...the bushings good for a ton of miles or like 100k before it wears and wobbles too ?? Or is it harder than the axle and the axle will wear which would be easier actually right ?? I'll eventually need to do it. Thank You !
@G. Fortin I had a seal I ordered but the day of the job with everything apart knee deep in the fender well I realized it was the wrong size for some dang reason, so I set it aside and just reused the old seal. Yeaaah maybe not ideal but it looked perfectly fine and they are not known to go bad. Yes for sure I hope I didn't introduce an issue removing and reinstalling but honestly I'd seen a few videos of guys doing the same thing.
Thanks for the feedback and I hope your install goes smoothly. If not, it's probably best to just give me the 4Runner because my wife wants one anyways! Lol. This bushing shouldn't need to be replaced again. It has a wider footprint than the needles did against the axle shaft and rides flush on the axle, unlike the needles that were actually wobbling end to end to support the axle as I believe I showed in the video. Take it easy!
@@ShawnMartinNCBIRDMAN Hope it last a long time. I would have done same in that instance.
How many miles on your machine when this happened,
@T Delta I had about 65k miles but I did a 3" lift and I believe that exasperated the problem and wore the needle bearing out more quickly.
Going to tackle this this weekend, very appreciative of you taking the time and effort to make such a thorough video
@spas12project thank you, you've obviously been working hard on your own channel with 3k+ subscribers! I understand the time we put into making these to help other people is a lot of work! Thanks for checking out my video!
@@ShawnMartinNCBIRDMAN Got it done this evening, used your video as a guide and it went in without too much trouble (though you make it look way too easy, 🤣 After the install I notice that the steering wheel shimmy I had was drastically reduced. Not gone entirely but 90% gone anyway. I may still have a tire balance issue to chase down but it's much more drivable now (and less embarrassing when people would ask "why the heck is your steering wheel shaking, isn't this new?") Thanks so much for the help Shawn! Couldn't have done it without this video.
@@hardataq excellent! Something about video makes it look easy I guess because it took some patience and elbow grease for sure! And to think I had it all apart months before to put in my lift...lol
@@ShawnMartinNCBIRDMAN when you grab your drivers side axle it no longer moves or has that play any more ? No seems to show that part . They show how lose and extra play but never the end. So my question is if your still able to grab and move ?
Thank you for the tutorial! Glad it worked out for you. 💯🍻
@Focus you're welcome! It's nice not to have the shakes anymore!
You probably said it, but who’s bushing did you use? Ecgs and nitro both seem to make one. Are they both good do you know? Thanks
@A T it's in the video and in the description, Yukon is the bushing brand I used. ECGS and Nitro are 2 other brands.
@@ShawnMartinNCBIRDMAN
Thanks. I figured you did, but I watched it as I was falling asleep. Excellent tutorial btw.
@@at1970 hahhaaa, I better not add any soft music or I'll put everyone to sleep! Thank you for the feedback I appreciate it!!
@@ShawnMartinNCBIRDMAN
And thank you for NOT having music. That is one of the most distracting things that people due on YT. If I want a concert I’ll listen to the music. I want info as I think most of your watchers do. BTW, do you think the nitro and other bushings are acceptable?
@@at1970 ECGS is more expensive and had longer lead time than Yukon. Nitro does not have the same amount or ad many positive reviews as Yukon or ECGS. That's why I chose Yukon. Most of my videos kind of go over why I picked the item I'm installing or reviewing. Hope that helps!
Question the needle bearing is in the driver side only,no passenger?
@Easy boy that's correct driver side only.
@@ShawnMartinNCBIRDMAN thank you
@@easyboy5594 any time!
I’m still on the fence about the clam shell bushings wondering if they will only wear in one place.
@Stevan Rose I believe ECGS did a video of how this application is actually more common using rhe bushing vs the needle bearing setup. My video also shows how the shorter length of the needle bearings doesn't distribute the load enough and the ends of the needle bearing rods were rounding off.
@@ShawnMartinNCBIRDMAN I just cannot figure out how a metal bushing can replace bearings; but okay. Nothing says success like actual success.
@Richy Bubulinski the bearings are oil impregnated and have a larger flat surface area to decrease wear on individual spots across the surface unlike the needle bearing which was shorter and the needles were even shorter than the casing and the needles could teeter totter in the casing and it caused uneven wear as shown in my video. The passenger side is actually made more like the bearing and doesn't need to be replaced. Not sure why they used the needle bearing design on the driver side and especially why they kept using it year after year generation after generation knowing it failed...
@@ShawnMartinNCBIRDMAN I think my argument above was from a place of misunderstanding exactly how the surfaces mate and where the friction is or may be. Obviously, replacing the needle bearing cylinder fixes the problem and doesn't create any more problems.
I’ll be doing mine tomorrow 😀
@13roush excellent!
Great video!
@T Delta thank you glad to help!!
Both sides, correct
@Rick Vick if that was a question, no. It's only on the driver side. The passenger side has a different bearing and doesn't fail as the needle bearing does on the driver side. Couldn't tell if that was posed as a question so if it was thanks for asking!
@@ShawnMartinNCBIRDMAN thank you, both sides have equal movement, seems like alot...
I was checking things after an oil change and the cv axles seemed to have a bunch of movement and the front pumpkin,
@@rickvick3735 yeah sounds like you've got more than just the needle bearing to work on.
I’m going to do this myself soon. I’m thinking of getting a cheap air hammer to install the new bushing into the housing. It will probably save some time and a headache.
@Thomas Gjonovich I'd be very careful not to damage the bushing installing with an air hammer, but yes if used with the bushing install tool it would be nice to have something automatic instead of hammering by hand!