Toyota Tacoma Needle Bearing Swap for ECGS Clamshell Bushing
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- Tutorial on the popular ECGS clamshell bushing swap on the Toyota Tacoma.
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I tried the cable method, and I found it easier to just add another set of jack stands under for safety and then take a long flat edge screw driver with a 3 pound hammer and Tap the CV out from under the vehicle on the slotted edges on the CV. Worked well to get it back in as well. Just tap, tap tap and spin the CV a little and Tap some more to overcome the Clip on the axle. I would also replace the seal while you are in there, but this taco was brand new so maybe not needed for this job.
TH-cam recommended this video to me too after I uploaded my own ECGS install tutorial HAHAHAHA
How it's only the driver sidd
You - both - recommended to me- Next weekend-
What’s the recommendation on gear oil ? I will replace while doing this anyway
I have a 2015 tacoma 4wd, i had lifted the front 1 3/4'' in front with bilstein shocks and noticed a roaring noise coming from front diff. Replaced needle bearing with bushing from ECGS and it solved the problem. Also front end would shimmy around 55 mph. Solved that problem also. Definately worth it and did it myself.
was the noise constant or kinda on and off
Dude. I just wanted to say thank you so much and you’re a genius, I couldn’t find a slide, hammer or CV attachment in the stores I had locally, but I could find steel rope a dead blow, and some connectors created one of those styles slide hammer is that you did, and it worked great. Would not have gotten it without you. Thank you.
Had to do the same on my 4WD Tacoma. I took it to 4 wheel parts to have a 3" lift installed. Afterwards I had the famous intermittent vibration. They knew about it but didn't know how to fix it. After extensive research and watching this video I replaced the driver side needle bearing with the ECGS bushing. You would've thought that a big company like 4 wheel parts would've had the wherewithal to figure it out. Unfortunately not 🤦
just another crappy hacked slopshop?
Used to work for 4WP as a technician... Do not go to 4WP 😂
I have some vibrations after a 3” suspension lift and -18 33” tires. Vibration is between 45-65mph. Chances are this isn’t my fix but it won’t hurt. Panning on keeping the truck as long as possible. 2021, 26k miles and paid off.
27 years a possibility for ya?
For anyone wondering. I got the new removal tool. The nut is now a 19mm. Not a 22mm
Put a 2inch lift on my Tacoma and immediately had the vibration. Just changed out the needle bearing, without pullin the axle from the hub, and replaced the bearing with ecgs. Vibrations gone!
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Is this only a Tacoma Issue? I recently purchase a 16 Tundra SR5 and just lifted got new tired and alignment done but truck keeps vibrating around 60-65 along with my steering wheel.
I'm not sure if the Tundra's use the same/similar setup.
So you’re removing a bearing and putting a bushing in its place? I thought bushing don’t last that long compared to bearings?
Not sure in other scenarios but in this case the factory needle bearing is far weaker than the clamshell bushing. I've never heard of one of the ECGS bushings failing after install.
Our 2012 Tacoma with less then 60k miles did a weird growling vibration a few months ago and I took it to a shop to have them find it and or fix it. And they couldn’t find anything wrong so I’m still driving it but I feel something sometimes and I’m thinking this may be what it is.
Couldn't find anything wrong ???
I was going to lift my tacoma but after seeing this i know the cycle won't end here
Lol it NEVER ends.
@@Tacomaholic This is a year later, I lifted my Tacoma and I will be doing this. LOL
thanks for the helpful video, you explain clearly and make a good team
Thank you!
I actually took a day off and drove from Northern Virginia to NC to have ECGS actually perform the change with their bushing. Great folks, cost me less than $350 to have them perform that, including bushing, and made sure my rear axle was within spec. 3 degree shim added. Would highly recommend them if able to make the drive. Most professional company. I have 2018 Tacoma with 3 inch OME lift
That is my Truck in the video. I also did the OME lift and 3 degree shims. Rides great. Zero vibes.
Haha says not to hammer the outer part of the cv axle but it’s completely fine to have it shoot out and hit pavement
Thanks brother.... great content! Keep on Taco Truckin!!!
Great video! Also have a 3 in lift and had to do this. Fixed it instantly! Found some one on Tacoma World in my area gave him $100 and did the exact same process.
Ryan Murphy where are you?
John Bradley Massachusetts
Where was he located most guys want $300
In Massachusetts
@@ryanmurphy694 sorry I read your first response after the fact
So Iam about to order the bushing for my truck. I seen that there is play on both side. I was just wondering if you know if the bushing work for both sides or just the driver side ?
Driver side only. The passenger side has a different setup.
@@Tacomaholic Thank you do you know if it a ball bearing on that side by chance?
@@HaileyMiller-u5i I'm not sure what the passenger side setup is, but I've never heard of it needing to be replaced.
Thank you! I appreciate you taking time to help me out with this.
@@HaileyMiller-u5i Any time 👍
Realy like that steal cable and hammer idea.
Just did my bushing couple weeks ago, had some problems to pull the shaft out .
I wish I would see this before 👍
How did you end up getting yours out?
@@Tacomaholic Prying with a large screw driver . Wosn't easy at all:)
Lol I can imagine. One of those things that has you cussing in the driveway. 😀
This is by far the most informative kick arse video ive seen. It really makes this not seem so daunting. I really appreciate this knowledge brother
Thanks Rick!
He made that look easy. Now lets see brian do the other side.
Its a ball bearing on the passenger side
The punch in the brake rotor... I was missing that idea. Thanks for that.
Or you could also put the wheel back on and lower it to the ground and tighten it that way too.
ECGS tool is crap. Needs grinding. How does only one company make this kit? Somebody gotta take over and do a better job, they tell people theyve solved the problem and here i am almost 2024 and i gotta grind mine down. ECGS 👎
Mann
I just ordered mine today
Most owners in TW had to grid the tool 🤦♂️.
@snorlaxTACO yeah you gotta grind it but not much and then it's a breeze. If you don't have a grinder they say you can use a small hammer & punch and try to tap it through. The bearing housing is pretty thin and you won't hurt anything that way. Just make sure to block the diff with cloth like they suggest. I'd also thread the screw on as well. The only thing you can hurt is the old bearing. It ain't perfect but it's doable.
@snorlaxTACO lmk if you have any more questions
A year or so late but it all started with a suspension update and well here I am, Thanks guys yall made it so much easier to pull the trigger and get'r done.
Thanks 😊
Would this same one work on a 2001 Toyota Tacoma SR5 having the same problem
Anyone knows if this will work on a 2wd tacoma? My steering wheel shakes at 55-65 mph speed
Is this problem avoided when you install a differential drop at the same time as your level kit
I haven't heard of that ... but others have said the diff drop has its own issues.
Stupid Question Alert....Do you have to do the passenger side bushing as well? Or is the problem only with the needle as the passenger side is a tube bearing?
I'm not even sure if the passenger side is setup the same way as I've never seen anything done with that side.
@@Tacomaholic It isn't it has a ball bearing...which according to ECGS's FAQ page "normally does not go bad."
So shame on me for not reading first. Thank you for the quick reply!
How big is that removal tool tend?, I have a few bearing pullers with the smallest one like that being 1''x 1-7/8'' just wondering if I could use the one I have rather than buying another.
I don't know the exact dimensions but it's pretty small.
Which end of the bushing goes in first? Smooth or grooved? How did you not stress the seal requiring replacement?
Come over Saturday with your tools. I'll provide the beer and BBQ. I have a 2006 Sequoia bone stock needs this 186,000 miles. My 2006 Tundra 156,000 miles is probably not far behind. I bought the ECGS sleeve and tool since I will probably being doing it again on the Tundra. My trucks are the same as your Tacomas but I have V8's LOL.
Great video and good information for those that may need it. I hope I never do!! lol🤣😅
How much would it cost to have a mechanic do this?
I'd assume they would charge for a hour of labor.
I have to do mine. It's bad with the new suspension setup
A few things:
1. My extractor tool nut size was 19 not 22mm
2. The tie rod puller, 35 mm socket, 250lb torque wrench can be rented from AutoZone (Advance Auto has wrench and tie rod kit but way more expensive as you have to rent a whole kit).
Does this issue pertain to the 1st gen Tundra or does it use a different bearing?
I've got a 2020 4Runner ORP with a 3 ish inch lift with aftermarket UCA's with 17K miles on the truck. Did the lift about 12k miles ago and just last week started to get a strange oscillating/harmonic like hum and mild vibration most noticeable at 40-50 mph on smooth pavement. It comes and goes in a reoccurring cycle. No wheel shimmy or shake, but noticeable through the steering column, floorboard, and seat of my pants. I'm thinking this needle bearing issue may be the culprit. Time to do some deeper investigating and get this ECGS busing swap done if need be.
Just bought a 2017 Tacoma Sport last month, factory certified pre owned. People kept commenting that my truck looked higher up, so I took a look and to my surprise the previous owner must have put a spacer/leveling kit on it, maybe 2” in the front and 1” rear. Anyways, I just recently started noticing this weird oscillating groaning vibration coming through the wheel and the floor. It’s subtle, so I’m sure it was there the whole time, just took me a while to notice it. After reading about needle bearings, etc. I tried putting it into 4H to see if it went away and it does.
Will removing the lift kit spacers and returning the truck to stock fix the vibration? I’ve read some on the Tacoma forum where removing the lift corrected the issue. I don’t even want a lift on my truck, prefer it stock.
I’m going to call the dealer where I purchased it today. They did not disclose that the truck was lifted (perhaps they didn’t know) because I probably wouldn’t have bought it had I known. Perhaps I can make a case for returning it. I’ve had it less than a month. I just don’t want to get in a drawn out song and dance with the service dept trying to diagnose and fix the issue. This is my work truck, I just need a truck that works.
Removing the lift should help correct, if not outright eliminate, those vibes associated with the needle bearing.
I need to do this on my 2005 after ome lift. I 100% Expect my axel to be seized to the hub. Here’s hoping it’s not 🍺
1200 miles on it? What is it registered or a trailer only fun wheeler? Ive never owned amything with less than 60k.. couldnt imagine doing that much to a truck while it still had the new car smell in it...
You don't have like puller for the CV? With as often as the front has to come apart it's worth the 40-60€ investment. Also, prying on that part of the CV can bend the dust shield that interfaces with the oil seal.
Ughh i needed one after like two weeks of being lifted.
Wow so quickly? I'm thinking twice about lifting now lol
@@yezkaholic lift is great. Just find someone that can do the the needle bearing.
@@RCPropaganda I read somewhere that the 2018 and up have "upgraded" bearing but looking at forums it's BS. How much did you pay for yours I'm in California most shops want $300+
@@yezkaholic i got lucky met a guy on local fourms he did it for beer. Just bought bearing puller tool then sold it after.
@@RCPropaganda that's dope, so after you replaced the vibrations went away and never came Back? Yours is a 3rd gen right?
Thanks for the tie rod puller link , cheap.
All these torque spec ugga duggas!!!!! hahaha
so trying to replicate the steel rope/hammer technique I pulled my cv axle into two pieces. maybe not such a great idea
Best upgrade ever solved the issue perfectly
Glad to hear it.
This is one of the best bushing replacement videos I’ve seen. I really like the cable slide hammer idea. Nice work.
Thanks for watching David!
David Buckles I agree!
great vid now if it only took 20 min to do this it be great lol
"Don't want to hammer on the end of the threads"
Proceeds to dive bomb those threads into the concrete with his CV removal method
Toyota will replace the whole front diff under warranty and apparently it fixes this vibe. Having it done tomorrow. Leveled my truck(2017 OR) and immediately noticed this problem.
Sounds like you got one of the good Toyota dealerships. 😀
I had to find another dealership because the one I went to previously denied everything and treated me like I was stupid 😆. There’s a TSB out for this prob that I found on Tacoma world. It’s called cyclical groaning/grinding I believe.
Seriously, thank you for these videos. You have saved me a lot of money with these how to videos. Thank you for taking the time for us do-it-yourselfers.👍👍
Thanks so much for watching Mike! Glad to hear the vids are helping. Tons more maintenance-style vids coming.
Plus 1 to what Mike said, thank you for your videos!
Don't need this yet but is nice to know that it's totally within my abilities to accomplish this.
@@Delmarksman 👍 Thanks man!
Great info and detail.I've got a 19 trd sport with a 1" lift and I believe this is the problem it has steering wheel shake at 40 mph.Had alignment checked and rotated tires and still shake.So I will check cv next.Thanks guys.
I had the low grinding intermittent growl pretty much immediately after lifting my 2nd Gen. looks like I’m ordering some of these.
There is no way I can do this...Could a local mechanic w/general knowledge & ECGS tools (I purchase) be able to knock this out?
Yeah should be a simple job for any reputable shop. There is a tool needed to remove the old bushing that is probably needed though.
I just got an alignment on my newly lifted truck and was suggested to do this next. Wish I did it all at once lol. And axle shims next too maybe
IS THIS ONLY DONE ON DRIVER SIDE?
Yes
Now that y'all got some practice in we can get mine done sometime!
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What gear oil did you use to top off the truck? Do you remember if it was the OEM Toyota 75w85? My local autozone only carries 75W90.
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Just purchased a 2014 with no lift and only 43K miles. My hearing isn't what it used to be so not sure what I'm listening for. But I can move the Axles up and down. I'm thinking this should be done. As a second owner on a '14 would this still be covered under the original warranty? @tacomaholic tacomaholic
I'm not sure if it's covered under warranty, but a quick way to see if you need the ECGS bushing is if you feel vibes in your truck to switch it into 4hi while going about 45 mph on a straight road, if the vibes instantly go away then you need the ECGS bushing.
Why is everyone saying 104ft ibs
Because they don't know what they are talking about.
@@Tacomaholic so axle nut 173 and tie rod you said 60 something what about lower ball joint and brace
There’s only 1 needle bearing?
Yep just on the driver side. The passenger side is a different setup that I've never heard of going bad.
@@Tacomaholic ah okay. I’m replacing my axles and when I ordered the ecgs kit I was like wtf but that’s odd. Thank you
What if the vibration only occurs in 4hi?
It does that all the time or only at certain speeds?
@@Tacomaholic only at certain speeds between 45 - 55 while accelerating
@@malick469 Have you checked to make sure your tires are balanced?
@@Tacomaholic yup tires are balanced, I already received the ecg bushing so I'm def still gonna install it, especially since I have a 3inch lift on my 4th gen 4runner. From what I see on the forums alot folks told me it's most likely the needle bearing but I've heard mixed opinions. Especially with some folks saying it does away in 4hi(I only have the problem in 4hi)
So the bushing is only installed on the driver's side..... What about the passenger side? The play on my passenger side bearing is also unacceptable.
Yes this is only for the driver side.
Hi. I checked the passenger side axel to differential and I was able to move it. Do you have the part number for the roller bearing?
The ECGS clamshell bushing only goes on the driver side.
I'm getting ready to lift my truck. I'm doing the bushing ahead of time
Good move! Even though the don't sometimes vibrate after lifting at first ... it will eventually be an issue.
does the truck need aligned after this install?? Great video!! Im doing this next week and wasnt sure if ill need an alignment after.
No alignment needed if you aren't adjusting anything on the UCAs or tie rod. The tie rod is disconnected during the install but that's all.
I aligned my truck the day after we shot this video, but that was due to the lift kit, not the bushing install.
Would you recommend doing the needle bearing the same time as the lift? I'm thinking about 5100 all around, ome 888 coils up front, and an aal in the back, with a diff drop.
Either then or when you are changing your front diff oil.
Thanks for this video, super helpful. I'm going to have to do this to my 17 4 Runner as ot has the same issue.
How can I remove the needle bearing outer housing if the puller destroyed it? All that is left is the outside shell.
If small pieces of the needle bearing remain inside then you need one of these telescoping magnets to help fish all of the pieces out: amzn.to/3a8Y0A4
@@Tacomaholic yeah I did that but the outside of the bearing is still stuck inside the hole. Any ideas on how to get that out?
@@davidchandler2276 I've never heard of that happening before. Did it just snap while you were trying to pull it out?
@@Tacomaholic yes. I can send a pic to you if you want.
Got it!!! Cold chisel and a hammer! Thanks for responding earlier. Pretty cool I got to message with you. Love your videos! They have helped me tremendously!
Just watched the video and very detail instructions also is this only recommend to do the driver side whatabout the driver side?
Yes this is only needed on the driver side.
Thx for details and tools needed list! Awesome vid
Thanks for the video. Wish some more details were mentioned regarding the new bearing install. How far does the new bearing have to go into the diff? How did he first align the bearing? Etc etc.
To first align it, you just get it square with the hole, so it's nice and straight. Then once it's started you can break out the long pipe. As far as driving it in, there's a little metal ridge in there. You hit it flush with that. I recommend supplementing these instructions with the ECGS install instructions, for a complete picture with all the details and tips.
@@randallbrusher503 Thank you for showing us how to do this. I'm an old fart, shade tree mechanic who works in the drive-way like you. I have done many things to my vehicles but have been unsure about this procedure. Your clear demonstration of the bushing installation answered many questions I had. Thank you again!
I'm about to do mine right now.
My vibes on the passenger side so do I replace both ?
This is only for the driver side. Passenger side is setup differently. But usually vibes felt from this issue are sort of generalized and not side specific.
If the differential has a spacer to accommodate the lift height is lifting still an potential problem for the needle bearing................?
I have a 2016 Tacoma off road 4x4. I want to put a 2" lift on it. With your experience on having to swap out the bearings, do you think a 2" lift will require a bearing swap?
Hard to say because it's not guaranteed that your truck with have vibrations after installing the lift.
@@Tacomaholic ok thanks for the reply.
Is there anyone near Lynchburg, VA that can do this swap? I’m not familiar with any Tacoma dudes in my area. I’m handicap so I can’t get on the ground to do this
Greetings Tim! Are you on Tacomaworld? We have an active NoVA thread where you could ask around.
Tacomaholic thanks for the reply. I am on TW but I’m not close to Northern Va. I’m more south central va. I did post something in TW under Technical tab👍
So I lifted mine 3 1/2 Inc. Full suspension lift and I didn't have the vibe at first it was a few days till I started feeling it. So there are 2 of these needle Bearings one on each side correct
No just 1 needed for the driver side.
@@Tacomaholic witch way to I put it in. Flush side out or
@@grizzlys91ify The ECGS bushing is the uniform if I remember correctly, so you can't put it in the wrong way.
@@Tacomaholic no there 2 different sides ones flush other side is not. But I looked it up and flush side has to be out. When I was takeing the Needle bearing out the tool dug in to the I side as bearing was comeing out so hope to God it will be ok. I have bye bushing in freezer for the night. So I can put it in. When I get up in morning
@@grizzlys91ify Let me know how it goes.
Is this an issue when just installing a leveling kit up front?
Depends on how much lift
@@Tacomaholic 2 inches up front makes it level, so just 2” up front. I don’t mind replacing it but want to order everything at once if I need to replace it.
@@technician799 It's hard to say. Some Tacomas need it and some don't ... but it's a good idea to go ahead and do it.
Just wanted to provide an update tried here what was suggested for the sting wheel vibrations and even though the work was not as easy as in this video. It did correct the problem and I appreciate you for sharing your video
Thanks for the info guys great job,
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How did he get the shock off without taking loose the upper control arm
That was done earlier since this truck was getting new UCAs at the same time.
but its not require to remove the shock to get the axle out. unless it a beefier shock i guess.
My have a vibration between 60 and 70 over 70 vibrations goes away I think to remplace a the u joint to see if that is the problem
8:28 aannd there go the threads on the axle 🤦♂️ keep the nut threaded on the end.
Edit: commented 15 seconds too early..
I think you forgot the four bolts on the tire rod end on the bottom of the the whatever it is spindle go away coming off and going on you never said a word about that somebody's going to hurt themselves!
My have a vibration between 60 and 70 over 70 vibrations goes away I think to remplace a the u joint to see if that is the problem
Nice video! I'd like to see more of this kind. Awesome bro!
Is there a passenger side bushing as well. Or do you only need to do the drivers side?
No the passenger side is different. Only driver side needed.
@@Tacomaholic so does the passenger side not have a needle bearing?
What about passenger side?
If I remember correctly the passenger side is setup differently and this mod isn't needed.
I have a 2009 TRD access cab with an AT summit wedge camper on it. Suspension is stock. The camper has squished an inch or 2 of the lift. If I lift the truck just back to ~ normal do I still need to mess with the needle bearing? Thanks
I would guess that if you are lifting it back to the stock height you wouldn't have issues with the needle bearing ... but if it's off by just a little bit the issues could develop.
@@Tacomaholic
Makes sense. Any idea if it’s the opposite as in the truck is sagging from a load? Is changing the angle bad if it’s lower not raised? Thanks
@@Tacomaholic
Also. Do you know of any difference between the bushing from east coast gear and the one from nitro? I can get the nitro one locally. Thanks
@@at1970 I'm sure the part is the same between the two companies.
Great vid! Thanks for being detailed! Very helpful!
Thanks for watching Eric!
And.... now I know!
That ECGS bushing was the best modification I have done my truck feels smooth and silent. I had been chasing a noise and vibration after a leveling of about 2 inches and now it's so much better 👍
Did you have any steering wheel shake at 45-60mph.
My small vibration is after 65mph but kind of subtle and goes away not sure if it’s even the needle bearing
@@TheMffd26 Is it only at those speeds? Mine vibes between 70mph - 80mph. 1st Gen Tundra
Very Well done!!!!
So this is the procedure for the driver's side only, as the passenger side is different?