Janet Baker "Der Abschied" Mahler

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  • @IvanGreindl
    @IvanGreindl ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Quel chef-d'œuvre ! Tant la partition que cette *parfaite* interprétation. Une très grande dame, 'Dame Janet Baker'...

  • @photo161
    @photo161 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    There will never be words adequate to sufficiently thank Ms, Baker for this performance which conveys so naturally and so beautifully the utterly transcendent life-affirming message of this heart-wrenchingly beautiful piece, which is of a final journey infused with longing but that ultimately will lead us to our true home as we achieve oneness with the eternal. Yes, Ms. Baker's contribution does much to allow us to feel the hopefulness of Mahler's profoundly consoling message that with our end when we experience our natural oneness with nature, the eternal resting place, we will enjoy a life beautiful, and true beyond the reach of death...

  • @joeoconnor5400
    @joeoconnor5400 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dame Janet Baker was a beautiful woman with a beautiful voice. She was never short on confidence and had a lovely personality, with a little bit of feistiness.

  • @willrobinson1229
    @willrobinson1229 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    So many colors and nuance from both Baker and the orchestra. Stunning.

  • @Siegfried38
    @Siegfried38 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Diese Musik und Gesang ist himmlisch, das spricht die Seele an, bietet Trost und inneren Frieden.

  • @drissboukili6194
    @drissboukili6194 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ik hoor ,zie en ruik alles wat mooi en mysterieus is.Bossen ,watervallen ,beekjes, planten,ik loop daar,ik ben daar....
    Mahler.....

  • @martynbutlerOBE
    @martynbutlerOBE ปีที่แล้ว

    Festival Hall and Fairfield Hall - lives in my heart. Never bettered.

  • @keithhulks7049
    @keithhulks7049 8 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I had the good fortune to hear Dame Janet perform this work live at The Royal Festival Hall in London. It was a quite magical experience. At the end there were a few moments of silence as we in the audience came back to earth then followed tumultuous applause. Dame Janet will hate to be called such, but in truth she is a national treasure.

    • @elizabethklausli8023
      @elizabethklausli8023 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Listening to her recordings daily: ( in the USA) She is a "treasure " to the whole world...
      in my opinion .

    • @arnoldamaral7406
      @arnoldamaral7406 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Elizabeth Klausli just say it the universe! Arnold Bourbon Amaral ADIO

    • @abrightray1
      @abrightray1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I doubt she spent time hating anything.

    • @photo161
      @photo161 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel much the same...However incredible the beauty of this piece is, I can only endure the wrenching sorrow it induces every once in a long while.

  • @santiagoflores4913
    @santiagoflores4913 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mis días de estudiante envueltos en la gran Dama nunca están lejos en mi mente y cuando la vuelvo a escuchar, el afán por la profundidad y el sentido, por la belleza y el misterio, por el significado y la trascendencia vuelven, como si despertara de un trance, como quien vuelve de la lejanía. Gustav y la Dama son una alquimia que convierte el recuerdo en esperanza

  • @embenadorfinearts
    @embenadorfinearts 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Janet Baker ! Her singing is full of musical and poetic insight. The listener is literally transported here into a floating dimensionless of words and music. Her interpretation results into multiple layers of different voices (at least it seems like it) and has sublime narrative values. The tempi adopted by the conductor let the voice and the orchestra respond to each other like a breath. With Kathleen Ferrier, it's my favorite version. Thank you for posting this great document.

    • @arnoldamaral7406
      @arnoldamaral7406 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Emmanuel Benador INDEED my friend Indeed. Tierra per siempre🌿 🌍🌎🌏🙏 👴👱💙 in the Bible God's word the Earth was created to exist forever. In the 📖 Bible Book of Psalms chapter 37 verses 10 through 30. There you will find/ read God's purpose for mankind is living Forever on the Earth. One thing that God cannot do is LIE. The GOD of the Bible is righteousness personified.The universal sovereign Jehovah has a purpose for mankind on the Earth. I enjoyed your comment and the lyrics to this beautiful piece my friend. For more information about God's purpose for the Earth go to jw.org there you will find true answers for your future and the future of the Earth itself. THANK YOU Take care, Sincerely Arnold Bourbon Amaral 👴🙏

  • @photo161
    @photo161 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    If ever I should find my eyes dry at the end of this piece than I will have known that I have lived too long...

    • @photo161
      @photo161 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      "...then...:, sorry...

  • @urlicht
    @urlicht 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    mai sentito una voce più struggente e angelica al tempo stesso, fa impallidire anche gli orchestrali che non possono reggerla in tutta la sua bellezza ed estensione: incantevole superba interpretazione della Baker,forse la più bella tra le belle, certo la più commovente con quella drammatica dal duo Ferrier/Walter. Grazie della condivisione !

  • @Altonahh10
    @Altonahh10 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Es gibt diese genialen Kombinationen aus Werk und Interpretation, die einem nicht mehr aus dem Kopf bzw. Ohr gehen. Ich weiß, dass ich das, was ich hier gerade höre, in dieser Intensität nicht mehr erleben werde. Janet Baker war ein Phänomen an künstlerischem Verstand und Ausdrucksvermögen.

  • @Jean-PhilippeSurivet
    @Jean-PhilippeSurivet 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the way Janet baker sings this piece. I find it much more convincing and true than the dying way of Kathleen Ferrier in all her recordings. On top of that, R. Kubelik is marvelous.

    • @manuelprietohernandez4820
      @manuelprietohernandez4820 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Discrepo. Esto depende de la pasión con que lo siente quien lo canta y quien lo que se escucha, en cómo se identifican el uno y el otro. Personalmente, admirando a Baker tanto como a Ferrier, creo que lo siento y lo canto interiormente como Ferrier. Esto es algo personal, pues ambas son maravillosas.

  • @lindentr3374
    @lindentr3374 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Beautiful quality...This is my favourite rendition and far better to hear this without looking at an orchestra which can be distracting from the feel of the music.

  • @mrslucibel
    @mrslucibel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    And of course there is the completely wonderful Kathleen Ferrier who recorded it in Vienna with Bruno Walter when they both knew that she was dying of breast cancer. She apparently asked him “was I all right?” She was a very great artist.

    • @exxcaliburs6002
      @exxcaliburs6002 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      we all know this anecdote. Is it relevant here? It might be. It might not.

    • @ianstrange2771
      @ianstrange2771 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Kathleen Ferrier version is, for me, definitive and unsurpassable. She was able to add dimensions of emotion, power, richness and beauty above and beyond any of her peers.

  • @Tamadehenzhan
    @Tamadehenzhan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    danke

  • @saunders2159
    @saunders2159 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The sun departs behind the mountains.
    In all the valleys the evening descends
    with its shadow, full cooling.
    O look! Like a silver boat sails
    the moon in the watery blue heaven.
    I sense the fine breeze stirring
    behind the dark pines.
    The brook sings out clear through the darkness.
    The flowers pale in the twilight.
    The earth breathes, in full rest and sleep.
    All longing now becomes a dream.
    Weary men traipse homeward
    to sleep; forgotten happiness
    and youth to rediscover.
    The birds roost silent in their branches.
    The world falls asleep.
    It blows coolly in the shadows of my pines.
    I stand here and wait for my friend;
    I wait to bid him a last farewell.
    I yearn, my friend, at your side
    to enjoy the beauty of this evening.
    Where are you? You leave me long alone!
    I walk up and down with my lute
    on paths swelling with soft grass.
    O beauty! O eternal loving-and-life-bedrunken world!
    He dismounted and handed him the drink
    of Farewells. He asked him where
    he would go and why must it be.
    He spoke, his voice was quiet. Ah my friend,
    Fortune was not kind to me in this world!
    Where do I go? I go, I wander in the mountains.
    I seek peace for my lonely heart.
    I wander homeward, to my abode!
    I'll never wander far.
    Still is my heart, awaiting its hour.
    The dear earth everywhere blossoms in spring and grows green
    anew! Everywhere and forever blue is the horizon!
    Forever ... Forever ...

  • @mrslucibel
    @mrslucibel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She recently had a public conversation with Simon Callow at the Wigmore Hall. It is very interesting and is available on TH-cam. She was always a glorious singer and always made sure that she so deeply understood the words, music and character she was portraying that it was thoroughly internalised so that she, as she says in her book “Full Circle” was ready to give it to the audience.

  • @ahmadaminnazar8105
    @ahmadaminnazar8105 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Allüberall und ewig...🙏🙏🙏

  • @lorik_shat
    @lorik_shat 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Потрясающе...Потрясающеڰۣ✿

  • @alexandrecosta2708
    @alexandrecosta2708 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good enough. Problem is that The Abschied is one of the musical pieces so intense, so "mich-dich" that normally "change" depending on an unusual number of factors - mood, ambiance, inter-silence of floating violins´ stream, ditto with clarinets, flutes, it´s a permanent magic caleidoscopy. Dame Baker did a good job, but within her own singing "soul", not beyond. There is no perfect ABSCHIED. As much as Fischer-Dieskau, Margaret Price, C. Ludwig, M. Forrester usw, tried their best. But that is a undepassable boundary.

    • @paulybarr
      @paulybarr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      First, in the English honours system, you use the person's first name, not second, although it might seem like you're being too personal. But that's how it works = so it is Dame Janet, and, for example, Sir John ( Barbirolli). Second, I don't understand what you mean when you say that Dame Janet '... did a good job, but within her own singing 'soul', not beyond.' I can't think of a more beautiful or insightful performance than this one, including the deeply committed playing from the BRSO. I rank this performance with the one by Fischer- Dieskau singing the baritone version with a searingly intense Bernstein/ VPO from about the same year.

  • @quinto34
    @quinto34 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    20:03 Er stieg vom Pferd..

  • @AnRo0002
    @AnRo0002 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    trauriger und dramatischer kann ein Abschied wohl kaum sein!

  • @photo161
    @photo161 ปีที่แล้ว

    Special comment for typical UTube viewer..." This was really good even though it was with foreign words." ."

  • @brochanteur8253
    @brochanteur8253 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    chiant comme la mort .faut vraiment être en phase terminal .Et sans imagination ,dehors .

    • @jeanrobertpecourt4452
      @jeanrobertpecourt4452 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      On peut ne pas aimer, cela n'oblige pas d'être aussi grossier. J. Rami

    • @gaetanbeauchet7396
      @gaetanbeauchet7396 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha le mec. C'est long parce que tu ne comprends pas ?

    • @davidbevan8149
      @davidbevan8149 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Janet Baker was world class and possibly the finest English singer since the War
      T
      Ss

    • @mlacascade4069
      @mlacascade4069 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Broc Hanteur ...désolé pour vous...mais pas étonnant lorsque l’on commet l’erreur d’aller voir ce que vous aimez...c’est en effet incompatible avec la subtilité des leader de Malher !

  • @TheGregMitchell
    @TheGregMitchell 9 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    There are quite a few recordings of Dame Janet singing Das Lied; the Haitink studio version, and two more live ones under Leppard and Kempe, but this one with Kubelik is the finest one of all, absolutely shattering in its emotional intensity. Dame Janet was always so specific in her response to music and text, but here she transcends even her own high standards, the sighing loneliness almost unbearably palpable. I can only listen on very rare occasions, so movingly eloquent is the poetry conveyed here.

    • @Alpha6.31
      @Alpha6.31 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I never knew this recording existed and I totally agree with you, so expressive in all its refined nuances, so much richer in all its colours and moods than for instance the Berstein recording with Ludwig, in spite of the magnificance of Ludwig. Kubelik and Baker, an ideal combination apparently, movingly eloquent indeed. The way she sings "er fragte ihn wohin er führe und auch warum es müsste sein" took me by surprise in its freedom and expression and left me in tears...

    • @kellnola
      @kellnola 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Personally I think her recordings of Der Abschied are all the finest ever. The Haitink version is excellent as well, though I have to say, I'd love to hear Nathalie Stutzman sing this.

    • @kellnola
      @kellnola 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "left me in tears..." yeah me too