Those 35mm shots depict utter mastery. Those are as good as anything I've ever seen. Bloody brilliant. Your photographic caloric deficit might make you lean; but its some of the best work I've seen in years, and definately the best I've seen on TH-cam. In addition, the perspective you offered in this video is irreplaceable. Thank you.
Sweet Jesus, those are some kind words. Perhaps not my best work but it's got promise maybe. These stories simply take more time than I have so it's slim pickings most of the time. Thanks for writing.
I think you might be slightly dismissive of the quality of those 35mm shots because you're focused on finding a narrative to tie all the images together as a body of work. My respect for them stems from their ability to stretch beyond the 'triangle', the rules of composition, into timing and balance...and the rarest these days: craft. I don't spout fluff...in other words keep going because that shit is tight. Contextualize those images in a different theme and they'll shine as bright as I see them.
@@chiprock2692 Hey Chip, I think maybe it stems from how long it's been since I've worked on this project. Photography skills decline with lack of activity, just like athletic skills, so I have to work myself back into shape. Plus, those were 35mm Leica stills, which I'm not using at this point, at least not that much. I have to decide if I want to go back in that direction to keep consistency or just shoot digital. It's a question I've been asking myself for a long while.
I have struggled with the same issue. My solution was to view the film vs digital quandary in simplistic terms by utilizing time as the deciding factor. If my project required immediacy, speed, and ease of use - digital. If my project is 5 or 10 years, then film without doubt. Slows me down, flexes those muscles, connects me to history, makes me value each frame again...fuels passion. I don't think you lose your skills with rangefinders; I think its like riding a bike or going skiing...it feels awkward until you commit and then you're right back at it. Thanks for this little chat. I have to shoot a medical event for two days next monday and I'll be itching to drop the Fujis and grab my film gear as soon as it ends.
Daniel. You might not be a photojournalist, you might not be a documentary photographer any longer, but you might well be the first photo-psychotherapist. Thanks for all your insightful advice. It needed someone to be honest about it.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 And as you predicted, making a cold call with a magazine in your hand is a world of difference from giving a business card and web address.
Daniels videos are always thought provoking and such a change from the usual banal youtube photography diatribe - many thanks for taking the time too make them
@@DANIELMILNOR505 Reminds me when my wife says "I wish we would have met 20 years ago". I usually say "Maybe 20 years ago we wouldn't be the person we are now, And wouldn't meet, or wouldn't fit, or wouldn't value the thing we learned to value at this age".
This was a great video that quickly summed up something that many of us suffer from. Really great job conveying a feeling that resonates so well with so many of us. I also really enjoyed that you didn’t just say “I make mistakes all the time”, but you gave a few interesting examples like the cactus story or the secret service one. I also love how you bookended they video with you huffing and puffing during a hike/run. You’re well known for your rapid-fire videos and adding that audio really encapsulated that feeling and was a nice subtle touch.
My life isn't about photography anymore. My life is about many things with photography being a small part of them all. So the running, hiking, cycling, fishing, climbing, etc. All on equal footing now.
Dan, you have become essential viewing and by ‘telling it as it is.’ Quality never goes out of fashion and the same applies to photographers. Stay strong and broadcast long!
So concise, relevant and appropriate. Time and time ago we learn that such and such a record from even the most talented musicians are realised after years of writing and recording. The same applies to works of fiction by celebrated writers. Art takes time. Any yet, we have been conned by influencers and hacks who have persuaded us to produce content/projects/a body of work NOW!! Your video is a reminder that this is an unrealistic assignment. Do you think Robert Frank could have produced The Americans is six weeks? Or Cindy Sherman in any of her exposes? (that’s exposays by the way; I could not find the glyph to spell the French version of the word!). Of course she couldn’t. A timely video Daniel. Cheers, from a bushfire ravaged Australia.
Always great content from both of you. I think it's ok to mix different aspect ratios when the technique/look is the same over the whole project. It gets complicated when you mix your b&w work with color images. I just flipped through two of my most inspirational books and both photographers are working with different formats which work well together. The first one is FACES OF THE NORTH from Ragnar Axelsson and the other one is HERE FAR AWAY from Pentti Sammallahti.
I troll through the ads on ebay looking for some obscure amazing camera at a bargain price and when I find it and add it to my collection I swear "that's it! no more cameras, if I can't take a decent photo with what I've got, buying another camera won't help", then I find myself, in a trance, trolling through the ads on ebay, looking for some obscure amazing camera at a bargain price....
Are you trying to build up a legendary new term/wording for how-not-to-perform-long-term-photographic-documentary-project kind of like the word ‚Munson‘ from the movie ‚Kingpin‘? Don‘t do a Millnor man... this will lead to chaos :) No matter if you succeed in this or not... every content you share with us inspires me. You motivate me to think bigger, straight and consistent. That is enough. I would even go that far to repeat your mistakes and dare a Millnor just to see what new things I could add to your list of findings ;) Thank you Dan!! Keep shooting 🤙🏼
Everything I've done since 1993 had been in book form. So blending formats can be interesting it can also be nearly impossible to make into something cohesive.
I don’t have this problem I just take the Fuji for street with a 56 for portrate I case I see it and 35 for some b&w street and then the D850 for landscape with lenses for landscapes with some filters and the. A macro just in case then I get to the site and don’t know what to do
I hate color. I like the moodiness of B&W... 6x6. But then, I'm not really a photographer. I'm old and fix cameras (time machines) that I always wanted and shoot with them. Mostly film. Love me some Agfa Isolette III and Record III's. Wonderful lenses.. I don't got time for presets.
Those 35mm shots depict utter mastery. Those are as good as anything I've ever seen. Bloody brilliant. Your photographic caloric deficit might make you lean; but its some of the best work I've seen in years, and definately the best I've seen on TH-cam. In addition, the perspective you offered in this video is irreplaceable. Thank you.
Sweet Jesus, those are some kind words. Perhaps not my best work but it's got promise maybe. These stories simply take more time than I have so it's slim pickings most of the time. Thanks for writing.
I think you might be slightly dismissive of the quality of those 35mm shots because you're focused on finding a narrative to tie all the images together as a body of work. My respect for them stems from their ability to stretch beyond the 'triangle', the rules of composition, into timing and balance...and the rarest these days: craft. I don't spout fluff...in other words keep going because that shit is tight. Contextualize those images in a different theme and they'll shine as bright as I see them.
@@chiprock2692 Hey Chip, I think maybe it stems from how long it's been since I've worked on this project. Photography skills decline with lack of activity, just like athletic skills, so I have to work myself back into shape. Plus, those were 35mm Leica stills, which I'm not using at this point, at least not that much. I have to decide if I want to go back in that direction to keep consistency or just shoot digital. It's a question I've been asking myself for a long while.
I have struggled with the same issue. My solution was to view the film vs digital quandary in simplistic terms by utilizing time as the deciding factor. If my project required immediacy, speed, and ease of use - digital. If my project is 5 or 10 years, then film without doubt. Slows me down, flexes those muscles, connects me to history, makes me value each frame again...fuels passion. I don't think you lose your skills with rangefinders; I think its like riding a bike or going skiing...it feels awkward until you commit and then you're right back at it. Thanks for this little chat. I have to shoot a medical event for two days next monday and I'll be itching to drop the Fujis and grab my film gear as soon as it ends.
Daniel. You might not be a photojournalist, you might not be a documentary photographer any longer, but you might well be the first photo-psychotherapist. Thanks for all your insightful advice. It needed someone to be honest about it.
It's a brilliant video that should be shouted from every rooftop for all the new photographers out there.
so right!
This is becoming the best photography channel. Thanks Dan.
Love to hear please spread the word!
Thanks Luis. Glad you enjoyed it.
So glad you are continuing with Daniel's videos.
Thanks Judy, glad to hear.
The gritty honesty is so good. Thanks for putting this out there. BTW: second magazine, done.
Good work Eric!
Way to go. Talking about doing a publication and actually doing one can be a challenge. Nice job.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 And as you predicted, making a cold call with a magazine in your hand is a world of difference from giving a business card and web address.
@@ebouwens Oh ya. For sure. It cuts through the noise and you have to put your phone down to consume it.
Best advice ever. I was getting nervous just thinking of sticking to one format.
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Natural presenter and communicator - and that's speaking as a teacher of many years. Great stuff.
Man, I just love these B/W images. I keep coming back to them.
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Daniels videos are always thought provoking and such a change from the usual banal youtube photography diatribe - many thanks for taking the time too make them
Feeling my way around in the dark...
I am very thankful you are making these videos. What a gift.
We really appreciate your support!!
I wish I've found Dan and his approach like 10 yr ago.
I would bet you are more intelligent now than you were ten years ago, so take what you can and move along.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 Reminds me when my wife says "I wish we would have met 20 years ago". I usually say "Maybe 20 years ago we wouldn't be the person we are now, And wouldn't meet, or wouldn't fit, or wouldn't value the thing we learned to value at this age".
Good one Dan. Great to hear your voice again.
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This was a great video that quickly summed up something that many of us suffer from. Really great job conveying a feeling that resonates so well with so many of us.
I also really enjoyed that you didn’t just say “I make mistakes all the time”, but you gave a few interesting examples like the cactus story or the secret service one. I also love how you bookended they video with you huffing and puffing during a hike/run. You’re well known for your rapid-fire videos and adding that audio really encapsulated that feeling and was a nice subtle touch.
My life isn't about photography anymore. My life is about many things with photography being a small part of them all. So the running, hiking, cycling, fishing, climbing, etc. All on equal footing now.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 I've devoted the rest of my life to photography. I just started out when 50, so I feel I'm in a hurry.
You still crack me up Dan, great video buddy - i hope you're well!
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Great honest, video, Daniel! You're funny, to boot!
Thanks for sharing. Simple and important.
Thanks for the video. Very insightful.
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Dan, you have become essential viewing and by ‘telling it as it is.’ Quality never goes out of fashion and the same applies to photographers. Stay strong and broadcast long!
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Wise words, thanks for the reminder.
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Thanks Daniel, and thanks to this channel seeking out the intangibles of photography
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This was fantastic, and helpful, thank you
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😂 Im new to photography but this already resonates ... “I draw the line there!!” what an excellent video
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The up front approach is just rare and great!
Thank you - another video which takes photographer further without selling new gear. That is what I am looking for!
You’re at the right place! Tell your friends!
I don't own any new gear! I almost bought a Sony recently, which I'm sure is a grand machine, but I kinda talked myself out of it.
Having documented Vancouver's Chinatown for years now (and weddings as well), this speaks to me on so many levels.
Fantastic! What resonates the most for you?
@@marcsilber the aspect of bringing too many mediums to a project and not concentration on just one.
Thanks for the upload. I think many upcoming photographers will find this inspiring! I know I did.......
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Love this guy!
🙏we do too
Uncle Danno keepin' it 100.
💯 back!
Thanks for sharing. A timely message. I have a 5 year project (started last year) and I can see where it will end up, if I am not careful.
Great advice!
So concise, relevant and appropriate. Time and time ago we learn that such and such a record from even the most talented musicians are realised after years of writing and recording. The same applies to works of fiction by celebrated writers. Art takes time. Any yet, we have been conned by influencers and hacks who have persuaded us to produce content/projects/a body of work NOW!! Your video is a reminder that this is an unrealistic assignment. Do you think Robert Frank could have produced The Americans is six weeks? Or Cindy Sherman in any of her exposes? (that’s exposays by the way; I could not find the glyph to spell the French version of the word!). Of course she couldn’t. A timely video Daniel. Cheers, from a bushfire ravaged Australia.
Always great content from both of you. I think it's ok to mix different aspect ratios when the technique/look is the same over the whole project. It gets complicated when you mix your b&w work with color images. I just flipped through two of my most inspirational books and both photographers are working with different formats which work well together. The first one is FACES OF THE NORTH from Ragnar Axelsson and the other one is HERE FAR AWAY from Pentti Sammallahti.
Yep thanks
Doable. But most of the projects I see done this way are actually multiple projects attempting to be one. One of the keys can be hiring an editor.
To be honest I would have loved to have seen all the formats, sounds fascinating.
I left out mobile because I ran out of time. The rest are there, at least I think so.
I troll through the ads on ebay looking for some obscure amazing camera at a bargain price and when I find it and add it to my collection I swear "that's it! no more cameras, if I can't take a decent photo with what I've got, buying another camera won't help", then I find myself, in a trance, trolling through the ads on ebay, looking for some obscure amazing camera at a bargain price....
Haha I do that too. I’m recovering all the cameras I’ve ever used one by one
Reminds me of the Helsinki Bus Station Syndrome. By Arno Minkkinen, I think. „Just stay on the bus!“
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One of the best lectures I've ever heard, and I've heard many, was Arno at the Palm Springs Photo Festival. He's a thinker.
Awesome.
Great video
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This. Yes. Yes. Yes
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You made me laugh at the beginning. This is so true.
We always want to add not e and more medium.
We have to keep it simple.
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Fantastic and way too true. Had me laughing out loud.
Luckily, the guy I was assisting for was cool about the entire debacle...
Are you trying to build up a legendary new term/wording for how-not-to-perform-long-term-photographic-documentary-project kind of like the word ‚Munson‘ from the movie ‚Kingpin‘? Don‘t do a Millnor man... this will lead to chaos :)
No matter if you succeed in this or not... every content you share with us inspires me. You motivate me to think bigger, straight and consistent. That is enough. I would even go that far to repeat your mistakes and dare a Millnor just to see what new things I could add to your list of findings ;)
Thank you Dan!! Keep shooting 🤙🏼
Anyone who drops a Kingpin reference is good in my book. A classic!
Yeah Baby... I do that self convincing thing... It's very annoying. Great content as usual. Props!…
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In this time this is the answer to distinguish you.
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very old video this black and white, love the goggles, i like bikes too.
🙏it’s brand new tho
The bicycle is one of the coolest inventions of all time. And Oakleys are grand too. I'd be grounded without them..
I'm glad being just a simple press photographer...
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I agree with one format policy, kinda. Occasionally breaking the pattern is more interesting.
True
Everything I've done since 1993 had been in book form. So blending formats can be interesting it can also be nearly impossible to make into something cohesive.
Daniel Milnor true that, nearly impossible :)
I don’t have this problem I just take the Fuji for street with a 56 for portrate I case I see it and 35 for some b&w street and then the D850 for landscape with lenses for landscapes with some filters and the. A macro just in case then I get to the site and don’t know what to do
Huum sounds simple 😆
Truth
yes
your big mistake in this video was no wind protection for your mic at the start. lol
I hate color. I like the moodiness of B&W... 6x6. But then, I'm not really a photographer. I'm old and fix cameras (time machines) that I always wanted and shoot with them. Mostly film. Love me some Agfa Isolette III and Record III's. Wonderful lenses.. I don't got time for presets.
Wow fantastic. I have some cameras you should look at. Where are you located?
The end made me thirsty!
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We have too much of everything. Limit yourself and see what happens.
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😂😂😂 Thank you for pointing out our idiosyncratic methods of working and complicating things.
Lesson: Keep it simple, stupid.
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Damn.just use digital
Jump cuts scream amateur
Come help us edit 🐕