They made hacking possible to every schoolkid. Cult of the Dead Cow
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ส.ค. 2024
- July 1999, Las Vegas, DefCon.
It couldn't get any better than this. This evening in Las Vegas, filled with positive craziness, youthful energy, and freedom, will be the pinnacle of a hacker cult that changed the history of hacking, digital technology, and cybersecurity.
That night, members of the Cult of the Dead Cow staged a performance at the DefCon hacking conference. Their goal was to draw media attention to their new utility.
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Timecodes
00:00 Intro
02:03 Meet Kevin, the creator of CDC
03:10 1984, a Texan teenager seeks friends online
03:37 Bulletin Board Systems (BBS)
04:34 The early days of CDC
06:34 Early 90s, cult activity grows
07:00 Cult of the Dead Cow gets a substantial branch
08:30 Hackers arrive at Congress
10:38 How CDC came up with Back Orifice
13:19 Hackers ask FBI for permission to release BO
13:50 How we decided to take the hard route
14:29 Presenting retro laptops for the experiment
15:12 Showing BO's capabilities, attacking the “victim’s” laptop
16:18 Main features of BO
17:45 How CDC worked with the media (spoiler - very talented)
19:40 CDC starts a media war with Microsoft
20:40 The legendary BO2K presentation
22:47 The end of the MS-DOS era
24:00 We are still feeling the consequences of BO2K's rise. Here's Sumsub's internal statistics
26:25 Where CDC members are now
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Why reupload?
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Because we wanted to try a new TH-cam’s feature - testing different previews for one video. First time we uploaded a video with one preview as usual, then decided to do two of them. It’s actually interesting which one you guys saw?
Why not?
Last night (AEST) I saw, I clicked, it failed.. video unavailable. I didn't bother to look for it on your channel either, just kept scrolling. This one came up in recommended again so I clicked and I'm watching now. Wondering what the stats are like for follow up views? I know for some channels, to which I even subscribe, I would not watch the 2nd chance out of spite. But I don't have much free time for youtube. @@Sumsubcom
Battle of Hattin.
With 30 years of distance and some (very, very late in life) self-awareness and ability to retro-flect, I've come to understand how much cDc and the l0pht and 2600 influenced my youth. To the point I still kinda am a rad 90's skater punk masquerading as a computer nerd. 40 years later and never lost the things from the scene gifted me, and ended up in a related technical career. Lots of nostalgia feels going on watching this. Nice work, even if it's a re-upload or whatever.
They really changeg the perspective of life of many people
It was an interesting era for sure...
Hey hey were the numptys
Yes me too...lots of nostalgia
I would add influence of movie “Hackers” and Mitnicks “Takedown”. I was hooked.
We had a member of this group in our school as an exchange student. Made good use of BO.
He got picked up for getting into gov computers. Picked up and deported. Now works as a security expert and travels around the world. Crazy times in 99.
Wow, do you work in security as well?
They're literally the hackers portrayed in movies
I first heard of the Cult randomly , when I was a teenager in Boston after a picked up a CD from a bench at a flee market called Hacking something. On the surface it was just a CD with simple little programs when you let the autoplay feature kick in. If you explored the CD they had bundled some really cool essay on hacking and various programs of the time like Back Orifice and SubSeven . My little 16 year old brain was blown away. Kinda opened my eyes to a whole new world that previously was hidden.
cDc...L0pht...takes me back... the old days (nights) .. sitting in the dark for hours on end.. staring at the monitor from less than a foot away, waiting patiently as my Commodore 64 connected at 300kbps (later 1200, then 2400)... reading 2600 text rags, oogling ascii art.. the demo warz, sceners, warez, pay-phones, boxes of various colors, reciting 'the manifesto', the smell of flux and solder, diy e-proms, gatherings of people crammed into a small room to see who could create the most impressive things in the smallest of spaces... shredding paper and plastic and burning weeks and months worth in a barrel because somebody you know got busted.. I can smell the nostalgia. Much respect to cDc (I still have copies of original files I DLed to 5 1/4" on a 1541... somewhere.. in a box..). L0pht.. Mudge, Space Rogue (I miss HNN) and others, literally created history. Thank you Sumsub for takin' us back in time.
LOL! the painfully slow modems
300bps - No k!
@@lupinthird Yup. (Typin is more automatic these days than it was back when I used only 3 fingers on each hand (but was faster and and more accurate)). Started with a gray cartridge and moved up to Aprotek. Later on, I had the very first (and possibly only) 9600 C64 BBS (custom DMBBS+SpiceNet hybrid with CG-movies, SIDs, LoRD and other door games, and PBX-XFer-Out for certain boxer friends (kermit,punter, DTMF menus I made from a text game. worked like a 'mud/mush' type thing but instead of hitting N to go North, it was K for KP and S for Start, and 2 for 2600. No arduino stuff back then, but custom chip burners and boards etc made it fun. PBX was not a 'real' PBX, but was connected custom hardware that was connected to several land-lines that auto-relayed through pseudo-randomized list before going out. That part didn't last long.. got tired of replacing chips all the time that overheated and it got to be a bit more risky toward the end). If you were a boxer back in the day and want some real nostalgia, there is a pretty accurate simulation you can dial into and use (box only). PM if interested. Totally legal, fun, and educational. Works with box-apps from a cell even. The trunk sounds are pretty accurate to what they were.
Just commenting to save this comment section for nostalgia
I had a buddy who got inducted with these dudes. Wore that cow skull medallion all through highschool. Pretty sure that dude is rich as shit rn.
I have an awesome picture of a couple of these CDC members from a HOPE conference years ago. So many memories.
those where the days. I used BO as a sub for managing all the desktops I had to manage. It made it so I didn't have to get out of my seat anymore to do my job. Loved it. Great watching this and remembering! Loved seeing Fred Thompson taking their statement. Good flashback day!
How did you get that naming origin story wrong?!?! Dead cow came from 0xDEADBEEF
This was a common error code used by Microsoft engineers in the 90s. 8-letter hexadecimal words are special because they can be used as a DWORD (32-bit unsigned integer, and important windows data type)
Great cutting, really great transcript I love it thanks a lot! Stuff like yours show me that AI won't only dominate content creation!! Your job is safe!!
Jesus!
I just watched this insanely well put together docu!
And at the end i was shocked that Belgium is the largest victim of deepfakes!
You guys are amazing, great work!
This brings back so many memories, so many hilarious memories.
I installed this when I was a kid.. The Server executable, by accident lol
I was chatting with people who connected on my pc lol
Yeah, people used BO for different purposes back then :)
Oh i'm hyped to see Sumsub talking about this!
I know about these guys because of the book "Getting started becoming a master hacker"
I love a good docu by Sumsub
Thanks. Yup we found this story very gripping. If there are any 'wishes' for new docus let us know (though we're already making a new one)
@@Sumsubcom Oh that would be lovely i have many great ideas for you guys.
Is it okay if i have some time to think about a answer? i would love to suggest some great ideas!
Oh my god Sumsub so i realized their influence is that big that i actually was doing all these things in my youth without knowing the true backstory & origin.
I'm kinda shocked about this (it must be a deeply burried memory) also msfconsole is showing a cow and i never really asked myself why but now it's WOW.
@@Sumsubcom can you do one on aol chats, servers, server bots etc that was my era would love to relive some of the details
I wish I could go to this years def con Dx. Hopefully they upload the juicey stuff. Nice video guys! Subscribed.
Thanks for the sub!
When I was dating my now wife we cleaned up a building her late father used as a workspace in a tiny town in Alabama.
I found a CdC sticker in a desk drawer and flipped out. I was a early teen building computers in the late 90s.
He was a intl delta pilot til y2k, but I have to assume he got it at at a burn. He started burning in the mid 90s.
The sticker now lives on a reusable water fire extinguisher I keep around.
Bring that low budget Sherlock Holmes.
I vividly remember those times and CDC...they were my ticket for interest in deeper hardware/software and cybersecurity dive...sweet nineties ❤
And Microsoft NEVER learned the lesson. They see security as an expense to their business, not a proactive asset.
How so? Microsoft defender seems to have improved a LOT in the past several years
@@angeltodorov4577 Defender is a product they sell, he is talking about the multitude of breaches the actual corporation Microsoft has had these last few years. They keep a strong security product team that deliver's some really cool things (Sentinel, Defender XDR, etc), but their actual in house security team seems to be a really low priority. They literally just got breached again in January by a nation state attacker.
I think you just don't understand what you are talking about... can you name 1 malware on windows that can get into your computer exploiting a vulnerability of the windows system? 99% of the malware nowadays gets into computers by the user's mistake, and not by a system vulnerability. You are just executing suspicious software and blaming microsoft for it
@@angeltodorov4577 True. But on the other hand, didn't they just announce that Windows 11 computers would receive an updating adding a feature that takes constant screenshots and keeps them all in a local database, which took all of five minutes for someone to find a way to access? Even MS had to back down on that one, but it's a perfect example of Microsoft's approach to security: As an afterthought, something to deal with after deciding what new capabilities are to be delivered and pushed..
@@JAODc-fo9gf Ability of malware to get into user’s operating system is, indeed, a vulnerability of the operating system. The kernel, user access groups, signature checks, behavioural analysis, WinApi calls tracking is all a part of modern software security. Executing a malicious code shouldn’t mean a direct ability to perform all kinds of unsupervised actions on the victims PC
thanks for the memories xD
really well made.. thx for this!
Thanks so much! We’ll have more videos coming soon:)
Thx for the video!
"There is no cow level" Diablo 2....
dude the amount of people that actually took people on their word when they said there wasn't a cow level in d2 was kinda amazing. was there really that many who didn't know there was a cow level? because I was just trolling, but some people legit were gate keeping the hell out of info when noobz were in the lobbies or in the game world text chat. me and a few players I met had our own little clique that all used to stomp the ladder in hardcore. kinda wish I could find those foos again and play some diablo 4
Excellent video. Then there was also Sub7.
Sumsub is back!
good ol times when hackers ruled the show
internet nowadays is crap and hackers can't do much about it
🤷♂
There it is! Seen it pop up earlier
At 00:17:20 you can see a TSR running called "bugs" that would basically be just a bunch of ASCII art bugs that crawl around eating up all the characters on your screen. Those were fun times!
Ah the olden days.
I remember getting BO2k on a "Windows Gold" CD along with all the purated software and a load of text files including a certain cookbook 😂.
Hell yeah Brian Oblivion, I love Videodrome.
See this is America where the Hackers Reign, Never underestimate someone by their looks, especially someone you have no idea about. Tha my end up being the only person that can help you....
I live in Lubbock and used to chill w Kevin back in the day! Never knew he was the founder haha!
i maintain to this day that goolag was the best learning tool ever made, period. cDc were GODs at this shit, and goolag imo is their crown jewel.
This is very interesting
CDC? Center of Disease Control. That name cant have been a coincidence
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it! Stay tuned
Greybeard core memory unlocked.
Ah, The mayhem at the Alexis Park.
phreaking was a popular blue box, ey? 😄😄 that was just one of the colours!
Super culty holy sh1t!!!
What software do we have in theese days that do semestre thing?
We just going to forget the existence of Windows ME?
🤣 I'm still trying to
i grew up on cDc. did all sort of things. BO was fun but it quickly became not enough. I wanted more. Developing malware in primary school. I've worn all the hats, black, white, gray. Now i'm older, thus more risk-averse, thus the latter of those three. I IRC until this day with my friends. we never switched to discord. Gen-Z will never understand the beauty of owning someone else's computer or a server belonging to the government. Working in infosec is nowhere as cool as my childhood was, even red-teaming engagements are like playing in a sandbox with your parents watching your every move over your shoulder. And I've never even been to USA.
you love spying on people
5:31 which film mask is it??
Back orifice didn't exploit anything except users brains.
I thought 💭 it was called NETBUS, lol 😆
What the video URL for the black hat? 18:50 👀
"an innocent executable file"? LOL - I remember Back Orfice well - with a name like that you know what to expect....
I see Cult of the Dead Cow... I watch. Simple as that :)
cDc! Bow to the cow!
Well ever since that group shadowbrokers everyone is a hacker..
God I feel old…
this
mhm mhm..
i agree
Sub7 looked way cooler with their themes. Good times.
Lol I was just to the left of that stage in the opening clip. :)
Hey, you didn’t talk about the congressional hearing!
hi i have a question how can i learn the osint ?
oh... God forbid if they were on the "dark side"...
Microsoft dropped the aging 95/98/ME "DOS" based OS because they didn't need it anymore. (ME was a REAL stinker!) Since win2k, they had a workable desktop version of NT. (There were companies that used NT 3/4 as a desktop, but it wasn't a great experience.) There was no point continuing two entire OS divisions.
Like vodoo boys in cyberpunk 2077
Oh. So Sumsub is an actuall business? Didnt realise until now a year later :D That explains how you can afford the high budget videos that get modest view numbers, without sponsors or Patreon. Silly me.
I see BO in all these comments and all I think about is sweaty armpits
Running a exe aunt hacking
Good times. I remember infecting my moms computer with all sorts of interesting malware so I could test it out. This was before virtual machines, lol.
What was the mom's reaction? :D
@@Sumsubcom She was furious. It ended up causing more issues for me than for her as she now thought basic programs like Firefox and mIRC were viruses as well.
Hack the planet
Could've just run it im some vms.....
5:48 psychopathy
COTDC are cool
Lol this program is program still exists but it works for browsers its called BeEF
1st LFG
You’re not, but your boyfriend still loves you.
@@xploration1437
.ooM
I hacked Taco Land
First
Is your boyfriend impressed? Nobody else cares.
That title bro. You fell off
Satanic
you one of those mfs that believe that technology is actually trapping demons in a sigil circle or whatever? yet you're still on yt?
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Could have just used a vm instead of some silver dusted brick.
... from about a decade beyond the era they want to highlight. (if you _have_ to have Real 90's Tech(tm), I have bits of it still sitting around here.) [Hint: no one in that era used laptops]
not as fun