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“Don’t punish girls for the body they were given”
Love her
Queen
I love this video
Seriously they are babes! Using their platform to talk about this. I went to a religious all girls school, and we had skirts down to the floor, they would lift our skirts up to check we weren’t wearing leggings or joggers underneath, it never occurred to me how gross that was.
Dont blame them for having the bodies they were given, by the same god you are using to blame them... I love that so much
This poncho serves no purpose other than to shame young women and damage self esteems.
oh bullshit.
Exactly.
racquel fagan hey, that's just like hijab! because that is a Christian school and Christianity also requires modesty, just like islam that this video is defending for some mysterious reason 🤔
@@bezwzglednypierozek7884 hijab is worn by choice unlike this poncho
Karin T hijab is a choice only if you are priviliged enough to live in a country where it is a choice - non-islamic country.
Literally my year 11 prom in England had like no real dress code other than it was meant to be a black tie event but the school literally didn't even care
pigywoo 12 this ^^ like there were so many tits at my prom. And I had bright purple hair too! Nobody cared. It shouldn’t matter. It’s skin and fatty tissue. Get over it man 🙄
where in england
same with our formal at my school in scotland, the only condition we had was dont throw eggs inside or release bugs inside on graduation day, and we still did that and got the formal anyway- my school literally didnt give a damn. they are enforcing the no locusts rule more now though, my brother graduated recently and no one released locusts which i think is a TRAVESTY
My old high school in the US pretty much had no dress code. There technically was one, but the rules were pretty liberal, and on top of that they were very loosely enforced. And for prom and homecoming the only dress code was that you couldn't wear tennis shoes, sweatpants, and other casual wear, but you could wear any kind of dress or formal wear that you wanted.
Word there no dress code for my school prom, it’s a single sex school so there is no stupid boy’s anyone
This school just needs to let these children’s mothers do the parenting and keep their opinions to themselves
Nope. Catholic parents appreciate these guidelines because then they dont have tobe the bad guy enforcing CHURCH WIDE norms. There is a stricter dresscode than this to go to Mass at the Vatican. And thats not including the veil.
Yes cause most mothers won't let too much skin show. But will let the right amount show
racquel fagan yassss girl
racquel fagan u*
DAMMMMN, THIS 💩 JUST GOT REAL
You really missed the chance to call it promcho im so dissapointed...
Devin ..... devinstated
underrated comment of the year, get this to the top people!
Devin always misses the point abd she did not give the people all the facts
HOW IS THIS A REAL THING???? Also Devin you still look like a goddess (le duh).
I don’t understand what the school has against backs. It’s a back.
Like, It's a side of your body, no private parts there or anything, IT'S JUST SKIN AND BONESSSS
Or shoulders
I misread this at first and was like "WhAT?"
It pisses me off when they say "no cleavage." Women with C cup or bigger breasts usually can't help cleavage no matter what they wear
Valori Joy This is not true at all.
Grace Van Laecken I think I would know
Unless you’re wearing a T-shirt or halter top. Coming from an F cup woman.
That's not true at all.
True. Unless my shirt goes all the way to my neck, my boobs are very noticeable. And shirts that completely cover my torso make me look ridiculous
This subject got Devin heated
FLCL it made me heated.
It sure as hell pissed me off too!
Julia Whited same
Deadass tho
FLCL me too
she should've interviewed teenagers that will actually go to prom, allow them to give their own opinion and expose their reality. Like give them a choice to say what's on their mind, give them a voice!
stop using the excuse that women are a “distraction” to the men there and instead do the correct thing and raise the men to see women as more than sexual figures
we were born with these bodies and at this day and age it should be praised if we have the confidence to wear whatever you see as “immodest”
Yes as long as they want to because some women prefer to wear more modest clothing and there's no thing wrong with that!
So I grew up at this school and all my friends go there. This started as a joke. It was also in adherence to the modesty beliefs within the Catholic Church. It was in no way meant to body shame or anything. No one at the school thought it was a huge deal
Katie Wollard I don’t go there but I go to a public school near to it and I have a lot of friends going there I honestly don’t find an issue with this especially looking at how most high school girls dress and act today
Bella I have no problems with the school’s actions but I find huge problem with this video. The way this video portrays the school is very aggressive and while I do agree that we should not penalize women for our bodies but I do think that she should have acknowledged that this is within accordance to our modesty beliefs. Also my friends at DC who have seen this honestly don’t like this video either bc no one at the school took offense to it or thought it should get all this attention
Katie Wollard ya I know I can’t even finish this video I honestly was shocked seeing it in my recommended page because my friends who go to DC and I were laughing about the ponchos a few days ago
To be fair, to the people who don't go to school and don't realize it's a joke, this could be very infuriating. But I also don't agree with the way they did this video.
I'm from the Detroit area and my best friend went to this high school and graduated last year. The boys don't have a dress code at all and the girls are literally dress coded for the smallest things. Like you can't have any type of v neckline and it's ridiculous. They have to send a picture of their prom dresses into a Facebook group to have it approved and disapproved and have no surprise factor for what they're wearing to prom. Can't believe this blew up so much but I'm glad it did.
If they had to send in pictures of their dress in advance to ensure it was appropriate then I see no problem with it. The girls can be sure that they won't be given the poncho or that they wasted money on a ticket to a prom that they can't go to because they broke dress code. The school giving literal picture examples of what is & isn't appropriate along with a verification process before the last resort of a shawl - the school did a great job at covering their grounds.
the issue isn't the poncho. the issue is the policy in the first place. the inequality is beyond ridiculous and the fact that teenage girls' bodies are considered a distraction for boys is the most twisted part of our school systems.
CrystalDragon211 You clearly missed the entire point.
CrystalDragon211 Well surprise, at a lot of schools guys can literally turn up in low-cut (aka to the point where you can see chest hair even on the guys who don’t have a lot) tank tops in winter but girls get dresscoded if their cleavage is an inch below their collar bone in 110F weather.
Divine Child student here. Dress code, contrary to the partial truth Kaitlyn typed above, applies to both sexes at our school. You wouldn’t believe the number of times guys (including myself) are called out for: not shaving, wearing out of uniform shoes, jackets, lacking belts, ties, even pants... etc. Also, everyone knows that mens clothing is generally less revealing than that of women’s (esp when comparing tuxedos to dresses). My sister and her friends had absolutely NO problem attending prom this year, and in some cases, wore dresses outside the parameters the school set. If you’re crying “inequality,” you are searching for injustice at the wrong place.
I gotta be honest....as much as I love Ladylike Devin was not wearing what the school considered a "modesty poncho" she is literally wearing a plastic rain poncho and those poor people on the streets are getting an exaggerated view of the story. Which actually could serve to harm her point overall. She should have worn one of the "unacceptable dresses" and then asked people if they thought it would inappropriate for a high school girl going to prom. Then, if they said yes, pull out a shawl or CLOTH poncho and ask if they thought the addition was okay, did it help, etc?
Also - given the school's religious affiliations - not all of these requests are unacceptable.I agree, many of the "unacceptable" dresses were quite nice and totally fine in my eyes. The blue with the small palm-sized cut outs at the hips does not display anything "inappropriate" or "suggestive"
I am so glad people in the video called her out on the plastic poncho bullshit...
My Catholic school actually allowed side cut outs. Just no midriff because it "shows your womb" 😂😂
soshiangel90 it is still a poncho and is the same humiliation as what was being given out.
My catholic school also has an extreme dress code as well, in our church it is very important to be modest.
As someone who went to a public high school until graduation, my school even had restrictions like this, and then some. We couldn't have any "nude" fabric, but darker girls were an exception to "nude" color fabrics. They wanted girls to wear formal shoes... but most shoes sold that are formal are 6-inch heels or too small or too big to fit your feet. We were critiqued at the door, and if you weren't following the dress code, you got denied access and were not given any refund at all.
I think Devin was trying to be a bit humorous about the poncho hence the plastic rain poncho but the parallel didn't work well.
do you no how hard it is for girls to find dresses within that dress code and no wants to wear a poncho if they don't want to. Bitch your saying stupid bullshit
yeah the poncho the school had was actually kinda cute ngl imo
Not really impressed with this video. Might of been better if Devin actually wore a prom dress under the poncho. Also the ponchos the school demonstrates weren’t plastic, so most of the poncho comments were irrelevant. The people interviewed were coached into say yeah people should be able to wear what they want but missed the point of the video. It would of been very interesting if ladylike explored modesty for women v men.
L BB Forget the prom dress, she couldn't even get a poncho. IDK what Americans call poncho but that is not a poncho in south America.
Lucia Mendoza We call what she’s wearing a poncho in the US.
Plus, a lot of the people who agreed with her were from the office, not outside people.
L BB gosh the video can’t be *on the spot* to what they’re making the video about. Plus, they have a video budget. Try to make a better video.
*might have
*would have
This is the first Ladylike video I haven’t enjoyed. There are two types of ponchos and the one Devin was wearing was the wrong one. Those are to keep you dry from rain, while the other ones are actual pieces of clothing that have been in some cultures for a long time. The shawls and wraps make more sense to wear over a formal dress, but technically it goes along with their religion and I think there are many other topics Buzzfeed could be making videos about. I’m all about expressing yourself but I don’t think this was the right way to handle this.
I disliked how she kept saying that the wraps and shawls were the same as the poncho.. they aren't... the poncho is hideous and more demeaning whereas the shawls are more suited to the event and the formal wear... that poncho.. the other poncho in the video and the actual things the students were given are all completely different.
Please explain how you would handle this?
Emily Clancey it’s not actually a rule for Catholics, it’s only the school, the Papacy and the Roman Catholic Church don’t actually have any rules against what can and cannot be exposed so I think they were just try to show that this isn’t something from a religious standpoint, it was more of the school forcing the girls to wear what that school wanted
I agree
Especially since the poncho she wore was see-through. It would be weird for girls to wear that to prom because if their dress shows cleavage, then you'd *still* be able to see it through the poncho. No wonder why people were like "...what?..." and when people didn't necessarily agree with what she said she goes to her friends/employees
Oh, I'm so sorry my shoulders are too inappropriate. I didnt know that, I thought we all had 'em.
😒😒😒😒
No one said anything about not showing shoulders, unless shoulders is code word for too much clevage.
They don’t want boys to pull down our spaghetti straps.
You're right. We all have shoulders. Why is no one upset that the male dress code requires the males to cover their shoulders with their suit? Oh, is this because it's a non-issue? I thought so.
Joel I was speaking of the male dress code too! Im glad you thought to bring that up though, as many people forget about that.😁
Omg the beginning when she was talking about the men/boy dress code I related to my MIDDDLLLLEEE SCHOOL the boys has not even a sentence and the girls has a whole paragraph! A PARAGRAPH
my school bans knees. like im sorry do my knees turn you on?
White.Cactii kinda
AAH Stop showing your SEXY KNEES
Yes for guys. Guys can get really horny only see the knee or above the knee. I watched on Dr. Oz in my country.
Girls are allowed to show knees at my school but a senior boy got in trouble for having his basketball style shorts above his knees but past his fingertips which is our dress code
Beauty Young Dr Oz is a charlatan.
Okay so I go to this school and my biggest issue isn’t the dress code itself, but rather the way in which the ponchos were presented to us. I have no problem with setting rules on how to dress at private school functions, but don’t draw attention to girls who have broken the dress code by forcing them to wear a poncho that is bright, flashy, and ultimately shames the girl for what she is wearing. I’ve been reading the comments and seen some mixed reactions to this, but please understand that most of the girls at my school don’t have a problem with the dress code itself, but with how it was enforced this year. If you have any questions feel free to ask :)
Lauren Davidson this seemed the weirdest to me, too. not the rules, but the presentation and the “we'll hand it to you with a smile“ had me shaking my head. i think the video could've been better though, as in more accurate about the poncho (why the rain coat) and going in deeper on the problem you just underlined!
I went to a private school too, and I also had a problem not with the dress code itself, but how they enforced it! I disagree that dress codes sexualizes girls, but I do believe that there is a proper way to enforce it without embarrassing people
i hope you have a nice time.
I had a very strict dress code in high school, so I completely understand this. I think this video doesn't explain well how at private schools they generally do have more strict guidelines that the women are made aware of. I know some of my friends have had dresses altered to have slits closed, added fabric, etc. I understand it comes down to sexualizing women's bodies but they're very well informed about the dress code prior to purchasing dresses. Did you have to wear uniforms to school everyday? Because I think that could also be a point of interest. I hope you had a wonderful prom!!
Do the boys have the same dress code, no dress code, or dif dress code? If the later 2, why?
“I’d get everyone else to wear ‘em, and you know, make it weird.”
Gillian Flynn Mhmhmmmmm
Make it weird!!!!!
*grabs box of ponchos and gives one to everybody* put this on, pretend all of us are breaking dress code
"Let's keep asking people questions until they answer what I want to hear"
“shoulders r too inviting for boys. We don’t want to give them the wrong idea.”
Do I see an ankle??
alyssa staunton HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
alyssa staunton No legs!😒
Annabella Cress remember to cover ur collarbones
Except the dress code said they could wear strapless and halters aka they could show shoulders and collarbones...
If she was trying to make a point, why wear a RAIN poncho?? Get some fabric and cut it like the one in the school's picture. THEN ask the questions.
Guys don't get the "requirements" because their party/classy clothes are not as revealing as ours. I'm sure they do have requirements of not having their hair longer than a certain length and not having any piercings.
it's not how the poncho/scarf/shawl looks like. it's the idea. -.-
Agreed
Exactly
It is how the poncho looks like because that rain poncho is transparent. Im sure the school doesn't want people with only that over their underwear. This is why she was not getting the reactions she wanted. And I'm sure there are very creative people out there that can make that poncho very fashionable.
While I agree that it's a bit much for the school to do, you have to take certain things into account along with how Devin did this.
1. Devin saying she didn't see any dress codes for the boys either is a lie or she didn't look. It was at the bottom of the regulation page.
2. The page with all of the "prom dresses" was a pinterest board just called dance dresses. There was a different page with prom dresses that had many more options.
3. You need to take into account this is a Catholic school. Just like how you showed women wearing hijabs, that is religion based. I personally think it is fine for a Catholic school to ask of you to dress modestly, just like Muslims are asked or become accustomed to dressing modestly.
4. I don't really like how you said these interviews aren't going where I want them. Those were people's opinions on what you asked. You can't leave and go to work where you know they'll answer how you like. A point of this is to get people's opinion regardless of if they don't agree with yours.
5. Maybe your interviews didn't work as well because you were using a literal, clear poncho. That's not what they would have been given, so you might have been confusing people because it really wasn't covering anything. You should have used a shawl.
Of course you can have your own opinions, I just think she purposefully or accidentally left some things out to get her views across more.
Sophie Mitchell this!!! Especially #4
Sophie Mitchell exactly! Thank you for this!!!
My thoughts exactly, thanks!
I agree.
Preach
I disliked this video and not because I disagreed with Devin's opinion or in a way to discourage her. This was definitely something that needs to be examined. I disliked it because of Devin's method. She said it herself, she wasn't getting the responses she wanted so she tried to create situations to get those responses. I felt like that kind of approach cheapened the discussion and caused the issue to be lost. This shouldn't have been about outraging people about a school forcing students to dress to a certain standard. It should have been a discussion on why that school (and society on the whole) still has such standards enforced on women. I know buzzfeed isn't the leader in ground breaking social change news, but Devin was clearly passionate about this and is a very intelligent person. She could have done more with this.
I felt the same way!
Yup!
I was trying to put my finger on why this was a poorly made video too. It just seemed like she wanted people to be furious about the xress code without explaining why the fury should be there. That black lady said it really well but everybody including her kept talking about makeup and allowances. That's not really the most burning issues.
I agree, it’s not the best made video and it feels like they just slapped some ideas on a piece of paper and called it a day. But I can kind of get where she’s coming from. She is saying it’s crazy to wear a poncho (or literally just anything to cover you shoulders) to cover up something all humans have.. shoulders. And for girls with cleavage. You can’t exactly make them disappear out of thin air, it’s part of them. But I think the idea was made in a terrible way resembling that wearing a poncho out on a sunny day is the equivalent of wearing something to cover your shoulders or cleavage at prom, but the problem was that it was so far fetched and made pretty poorly it made it seem like it was more a joke
Alli Ward I totally agree!
Idk Devin, this was forced. The regulation is definitely weird, but overall this video does not represent the issue.
agreed!
Durmista exactly! They never said rain ponchos, they were not rain ponchos
You went around the city in a full rain poncho telling people that the school in question is requiring that specific poncho for prom, and you wonder why people make fun of "journalists". Why not actually wear a dress that would be considered not modest, put on an actual modesty poncho, and ask peoples opinion on that.... Is it because it wouldn't get the overreacting responses you wanted for your one sided puff piece?
yeah I agree with you this video is not the best
My dude!!!! I was just thinking that
Thank you! This video is ridiculous.
She probably would have gotten better responses
The only thing I would ask people to do that watch this is please research this topic before posting a reply. This video is extremely and outlandishly skewed to one side to purposefully lean viewers towards the "reporter's" opinion.
To those going "of course they had to have a dress code, imagine how the teens™ would dress if there wasn't one".... How would you dress when you go to prom? How would your friends? How would your family? These kids are just normal kids, its not like any of them would choose to go to a gala event in nipple tassels and a thong.... Like... Have some chill. No one is going to dress insane, these are kids who still have innumerable amounts of body insecurities. Literally the only dress code requirement should be "formal dress".
Anna Schanus I agree that these rules are way too strict and women should not have to be ashamed of their body shape, but you also need to think of all the liabilities that come with school that, more often then not, are run by school boards and voted on by parents. Of course their needs to be rules in place for safety reasons and decency, but most schools right now are rather strict. The dress code that I found was the most balanced for prom is the “one piece bathing suit area must be covered by opaque material” found in Kristin’s video.
Quilver cloud Good point you got there, Quilver. I think the rule-setter(s) in this case was stuck between a wall and a hard place. That being said, I agree with you that the rules could indeed have been much slacker and perhaps condensed.
Anna Schanus ii
Quilver cloud what liability is there. It's just people wearing clothes
keirstyn99c / These dress codes are NOT reasonable. Who cares if some cleavage shows? Or a lot of leg, etc. It really shouldn’t matter. They’re high schoolers, not middle schoolers and below. 14-17 you’re young adults. Nobody should be telling them how to dress.
I understand the statement Devin's making but the school was giving out a cloth poncho, or a shawl (speaking of I would wear a shawl to prom because ya girl gets cold) but to make the correct statement she shouldn't have worn a plastic rain poncho for her statement piece.
It was probably just to be humorous.
Terrible content. Misinterpreted clickbait news article poorly researched, then voxpop with your colleagues because your message was too confusing for the public. Strong agenda stuff here with a miniscule disclaimer about acceptable religious modesty. I'm not feeling the buzzfeed preachiness here.
oh no don’t look at my shoulders you might get turned on .. but give me a cape so no one thinks i’m fashionable.. 🙄
Anastasia Rodriguez what I say about my dress code
Me and my friends have a joke about “GOD FORBID WE SHOW OUR KNEEEEEEEEEESSSSS”
TheKraftyDiva hah .. that’s a good one !
TheKraftyDiva 🤣 my gosh I love it
Nightshine Moon Sugarlily Uzumaki ... honestly ! 😂
It's a Catholic school. I'm going out on a limb here, but not everybody feels the way you do. It's the same concept of people telling Muslim women they're oppressed when many choose the hijab. If this is a rule they enforce because modesty is for religious purposes, then this is wrong. I'm not even a religious person. The bottom line is different groups of people have different ideals. And you have to respect that. Like it? No. But it's that group's prerogative.
I understand what you are saying however the Catholic Church doesn’t actually have any rules against what women can and cannot wear. And I live in a very catholic community and school, we all dress like normal teenagers, since we don’t have any modesty guidelines to follow. so I think it was more of a way to point out that a school was telling them what they had to wear, it wasn’t about just the religion.
Also a hijab is a personal choice and there aren’t any rules saying they must wear it
yes, but at the same time if the students are truly devout then exposing a little bit of skin (I'm not saying full on cleavage, but more relaxed guidelines) shouldn't be an issue. These kids are just about to graduate, some of them are already 18. Maybe rather than forcing someone what not to wear, maybe they should do a better explanation of why modesty is important to begin w/
I get 100% what you are saying but i actually go to a catholic high school as well and as far as I’m aware, there are no real restrictions to our wardrobe that are considered to be a part of our religion the way hijabs are. Our prom did not have restrictions like this at all so It’s not really just a religious thing.
Their school. Their rules. I'm sorry ladies, but the world is a multifaceted place. The real ugly that everyone seems to avoid is that the world doesn't always work your way. Your thoughts and your ways are not the only way. Some are driven by more than the pursuit of personal happiness and pseudo-hedonism (and I do mean pseudo). Progression is not marked by wearing less. It's not about having your tits out at prom. The bigger picture is respecting the wishes and opinions of others no matter how uncomfortable it makes you because the world is not all about you.
"what if i told you i was going to prom"
the random people being interviewed: 👁👄👁
Despite this being incredibly annoying, it IS a catholic school. They’re [unfortunately, in this case] practicing what they preach. I’d be more outraged if this were a public, charter or private school.
Michi Contreras yeah I thought the same thing, it’s also a private school with uniforms so really they can make whatever dress codes rules they want... that’s just how it goes at private schools lol
does that mean my nuns were progessive in the 90's? i went to a private all-girls catholic school and our admin didn't really have a dress code for prom. i had classmates come in low cut, backless, high thigh slit dresses etc etc etc and they were cool about it. no one came in a bikini though, so i don't know if they would have drawn the line there.
Kat Every religion is different even if it is the same religion... for example my doctrine would never even allow a dance to happen in the first place lol
Michi Contreras I go to catholic school and the only requirement for our prom is formal wear. Ladies can wear mini dresses or suits if they so choose
Kimberly Perez right? Like I feel like a lot of catholic schools don’t have a prom.
It annoyed me but also it is a catholic school, and I feel like parents send these kids to school with certain beliefs and even if I don’t agree it IS a private catholic school. If it was public school I’d be more angry. 🤷🏼♂️
Giulia Vojvodic I’m happy your school is super accepting. But for this high school I’m just not surprised, and also when children go here they are required to sign a code of conduct which probably states all these rules. I’m not saying I agree with it, I don’t, but if parents don’t agree with it they can send their kids somewhere else.
Giulia Vojvodic I also agree with trying to stop normalizing these behaviors, but I feel like when religion is thrown in the mix I have no say because it’s not my religion. 🤷🏼♂️
Hailey Andersen I’ve always been in the catholic school system and dress code is just a habit for me I guess. Our rules are not as strict as these. We have the no shoulder cut outs, cleavage, and a dress/skirt/short length code. It’s annoying but like you said it’s a Catholic school.
Hailey Andersen but like what devin said at the end god made woman with body parts that we need to pretend arent there basically
Hailey Andersen we should still be angry. We should be aloud to express ourselves. Its our bodies, not the school. We choose what to wear.
*As much as I love Ladylike, this video was kind of disappointing. I don't think wearing a plastic poncho really got any message across regardless, maybe if you were wearing a prom dress with a wrap that was demonstrated, and also mentioning that it was a CATHOLIC school, then it would have been more effective to get the answers you were looking for, in terms of making a conclusion. Since it is a private catholic school, they are generally a lot more strict of what kids wear. If you choose to attend a private school, then you must abide by the rules. If not, then leave. So that is TO BE expected. Also- I understand self-expression but if you're under the age of 18, you are a CHILD. You can show off whatever you want when you're an actual adult.*
I completely agree. As someone who also went to a Catholic School Prom. We were given requirements, for both guys and girls, and if we chose to not obey we either didn't go or were turned away at the door. We didn't even have a poncho option.
Also the school isn't handing out plastic rain ponchos. They were talking about scarves, wraps, and shawls which are much more tasteful. Its also fairly easy to have light (but non sheer) fabric sewn in to a dress to make it meet dress code. I know those aren't the most ideal options but it can be done to look natural with the dress.
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nah, I went to Catholic school in Central America, there were some more form fitting dresses and what not, NOBODY bat an eye. Didn't Jesus told a man concerned with women being a temptation to him, to rip out his eyes?
AHEM RANT TIME: *I GO TO A PUBLIC SCHOOL OK? ITS A MIDDLE SCHOOL. HERE IS OUR OUT OF UNIFORM DRESS CODE*
NO RIPPED JEANS
NO SPAGETTI STRAPS
SKIRTS MUST BE NO LOWER THAN 3 INCHES ABOVE THE KNEE
so uh yea, rants over
I don't get it. Does this video want me to have my opinion on this or your opinion on this?
I really hope LadyLike or Devin herself comes out with a statement about this..the majority of the comments seem to not agree with a lot of the ideas in this video and I hope she at least reads through them. I love lady like but you can clearly see that they wanted a certain reaction that only fellow buzzfeed workers gave them.. like who even says "I don't feel like I'm getting the interviews I want right now" I love ladylike but this video seems VERY one sided and bias 🙄
actually throw the whole company away
Lol the amount of likes on the video disagrees with your comment.
...why did she wear a rain poncho? that’s not remotely the same thing
I'm glad somebody said it! She took it to sit here an unnecessary extreme
Jeez, I hope Devin never goes into real journalism because this was painful to watch. Talk about biased interviewing and leading the respondents..
yeet it's not supposed to be unbiased it's just a video with some interviews
That's what this entire channel is. All of Buzzfeed for that matter. So sad.
@@Zeldafitz24 Missing the point. 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@danim9661 the point was that Devin is biased in this video. My point is that it's not a news network, so its fine that she's expressing her opinion in this video. How am I missing the point?
Yeah don't consider the issue, just moan about the delivery and completely miss the point that she wasn't here to be unbiased, that helps. My lord.
from what I understand, the school that did this is a private religious school. if you attend a private school, you need to meet the standards they lay out, for girls and boys, and not just for clothes, but for behavior, language, etc. if you don't want to follow their standards, you should go to public school, like I did. Devon says you don't have a choice, but you DO! Don't got to/support a private school you pay to go to, if don't agree with their rules!
also, a fabric scarf is A LOT DIFFERENT than a PLASTIC RAIN PONCHO!
this video stretches the situation so far, that you are actually misrepresenting facts. why instead wouldn't you talk about a public school that sent a girl home for "wearing too little", because that's actually happened and public schools are for everyone.
If it really effects a boy he should be sent home to learn self control
True.
Really feel like they should have tried to use similar ponchos to the pictures. Also if you go to a strict school you have to expect that there is going to be rules about prom, if the rules are clearly stated to everyone and people choose to go against the rules then yeah there's gonna be consequences. I wish it wasn't this way and that people could dress however they want but I would also just respect the schools rules if I wanted to enjoy my prom and not have to wear a poncho.
Jessica Duffy I go to this school 😂 and I agree that there are rules and they are there to be followed and women aren't being forced to go to this school! And it's part of our religion!
Totally agree with you. The rain poncho was stupid and not even close to the shawls that were shown in the pictures.
Isabelle's Vloggs is it a private school? Also some kids probably are being forced
Jessica Duffy you have to also realize that our society is making it okay to dress Les and less that minors are dressing like grown woman. When i go to a nice restaurant i really don't want to see your 14 year old kid wearing a crop top that shows her belly and cleavage and a skirt that anyone can see up. Like this is where people eat not pay for sex it's getting gross on how it's okay, schools go extra on dress code because there is always around it and mind you there teachers are grown men and women who still view them as children or unfortunately in some cases as an adult even though they aren't even old enough to drive.
Jessica Duffy I agree with you 100%
Devin should have worn an “unacceptable “ dress and then the appropriate “poncho” because this video unfortunately made no sense lol like lady like but this wasn’t accurate. Unfortunately nowadays there are females and males that dress highly inappropriate to just school in general. And no you can’t just wear whatever you want at prom lol because you know damn well someone will go almost naked lol this video missed the point
No lol the video made sense 😂
Danielle Hays no lol it didn’t 😂
The concept made sense but the execution didn't. Yes, there are reasonable expectations for young people to dress at an event, such as having their ass hanging out then they should just be kicked out.
Everyone is writing some long comments
To be fair though it is a private school of a religious base. They will have standards according to their religion. You have to apply and pay to go there. I would understand the frustration if this were a public school, but it’s not.
Exactly.... this video annoys me. Is it not ok to be modest anymore? It's a private school, for goodness sake. Everyone is talking about body shaming but what about religion/beliefs shaming? If you don't like it don't pay tuition to attend a private religious school.
I was thinking the same thing!!
gracesquared1 yeah I agree
Ann Cardamone they never said you can't be modest, but she said it's about having the choice to be modest or flaunt your body
Exactly! Its a private CATHOLIC school. Its a religious standard so why so much hate. If it was a public school yes 100% unacceptable, but its a private religious school so modesty is kind of assumed.
In my personal opinion, LadyLike videos have been getting worse in the last few months. This video takes the cake.
I will say I’m glad this video was posted though. (But probably not for the obvious reason). I’m glad it was posted because of the “I’m not getting the interviews I want” comment. To me this comment blatantly shows how the media skews the information that is shared. She didn’t like the responses she was getting so she changed how and who she was interviewing to get the outcome she desired.
As someone who battles the public view of a “certain type of person” and this public view is based pretty heavily on information from media sources, I’m glad you left that line in there. It shows that the media is biased and reports the information it does to get views, show only their opinions, make the most money, etc.
I also find it interesting that you can talk about these girls being unable to wear what they want to prom but I have yet to see a member of LadyLike post a comment of their own... correct me if I’m wrong but I believe that is a rule from BuzzFeed... Isn’t that the same kind of issue for you?
... food for thought.
bahlyn I agree with you. I feel like Ladylike is just posting feminist videos about boobs and it’s honestly not interesting anymore.
I do know, from watching past videos of people who have "left Buzzfeed" They can't post on their own videos, but still this is a little much.
Devin, talk about what the boys have to do too, talk about how there already is a dress code. Talk about how these rules were already in place, BEFORE the prom. That's how high school works AT ANY high school, they post the rules a head of time, easily a month if not more. So the people attending can get and idea on what is expected of them.
I'm not okay you are so right!!!
I think you are completely right I mean devan acts like they are doing this without warning the students that if they don’t wear appropriate clothes they will wear a wrap because they do give the dress code BEFOREHAND so if they don’t follow the dress code then they should be wearing a wrap and I also feel that devan was mocking the catholic faith because the virtue of modesty I will be unsubscribing to ladylike because they have changed so much I miss sayfia
bahlyn well said!! I agree the videos went from being fun, light hearted to 'tackling' fake deep, white privileged feminism bubble 'issues'. And this is definitely the worst video so far.
Doesn’t seem right. Devin’s wearing a rain poncho(rain coat) not the same type of poncho meant by the school. Sooo.. of course you’d get weird reactions.
This is borderline mocking religion and culture.
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Janelle Kathleen I completely agree
ahahahaa you're funny. i've got to tell you, im not sure what culture rain ponchos or modest ponchos are part of because as a catholic person, i dont think its my own and there arent any other cultures or religions in play rn
But I thought it was okay to mock Christianity
Janelle Kathleen she did say that. It wasn’t the same as what the school was doing but I️ stand by her of course she a bit over dramatic but girls should not be told to cover them selfies up because of there bodies and also w the men didn’t have any type of dress code which is completely unfair
Your poncho is see through. How does that represent what this school is doing? The point is that they are covering everything you could possibly see.
not a werewolf well they made the ponchos out of felt so if the entirety of LA is out of felt I guess that is understandable
Just feels like a lazy video. Love this channel but yes. Content filler.
not a werewolf A poncho of similar shape is very easy to find. I have some. There is no need to have someone wander around in a rain poncho that holds in heat on such a warm looking day. Being that uncomfortable is not needed and does not illustrate modesty.
You should have worn what they were gonna give the girls only because a real actual poncho like you had on wasn’t the same thing. Your point was kind of lost and I love you and your videos. Just saying.
You guys have dropped drastically LOW, how about respect religions i mean DAM i ain't even Catholic but saying modest looks is okay but the Catholic dress codes is not.
Okay but those acceptable dresses weren't "mother of the bride" dresses.. I mean sure they should wear whatever they want to, it's their right. That's not my point here. Only saying that I think those dresses where really nice and some even sexy. I honestly expected a lot worse. Also wearing a rain poncho is not the same thing as those modesty ponchos.. That's not really a good way to tell that story..
Ernomobiili 🙌🙌 there’s a reason for dress codes and some of them are really outlandish, but this one seemed reasonable to me. Especially because they allowed spaghetti strap and strapless like my school would never allow that
Ernomobiili that’s why directly after that she said, “I don’t want to shit on them because they’re cute.” It was mainly that most of the dresses were the same cut with different fabrics
Madison Karen Ann Hammond but is it really that bad to show some of your back or a little of the skin on your side?
I didnt like the mother of the bride comment. It seemed like she was saying those dresses were TOO modest and matronly. So because I prefer being a little more covered up, I look like a middle aged woman?
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ok, it looked like Devin was wearing a trashbag. Except she made it look good.
At the bottom of the image of regulations it explains what boys are to wear. While I may not agree with what the school is doing, Devin's comment about there being nothing for boys is unfounded.
Also, the Pinterest page Devin showed was for "dance dresses" there is a separate one for prom dresses, which have some really cute dresses even ones with back cut-outs.
Honestly that is skewing facts to get your desired outcome and not actual reporting.
MrsFutureLaura 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻couldnt have said it better
exactly, and you can’t be annoyed that you aren’t getting the interviews you want because interviews are other people’s thoughts and voices, not ones that you should try to skew.
Thank you!!!🙌🙌🙌
I also don't like that she didn't take into account the fact that it was a Catholic school. They have a right to make rules based on their religious beliefs. I'm not Catholic, but I respect their beliefs.
Someone with some sense!
This was a terrible video. It is a private Catholic school, and they have the right to make the rules. Stop skewing the facts with wearing this rain poncho when this isn't what they were going to wear. And no, shawls aren't the same as that poncho. I honestly do find this very ladylike. I have never downed a video of Ladylike until now. Again, terrible video.
I feel like Devin was so obviously biased on this subject and she got frustrated when the interviews weren’t being answered how she wanted. Really poor journalism
Staci B i felt that she was trying to keep the video light hearted and comical and that’s why she had people wear the ponchos, though I do see where your coming from and how that could get lost in translation.
Here’s a thought... don’t send your kids to this school if you don’t agree with their policies. #choices Maybe a conservative catholic school isn’t the place for you.
The goal is to end Christianity
This is exactly what I was thinking! Thank you for saying it. Everyone keeps saying that the girls should be able to make choices about what they wear to the prom, but the choice was made that they attend that school. There are many other schools they could have gone to where they would not have been restricted about what to wear. I wish people would stop trying to apply the same liberal rules to everything!
it’s👏not👏our👏faults👏if👏guys👏can’t👏keep👏their👏eyes👏to👏themselves👏
It is not about men. It is about teaching girls that you can be beautiful and modest.
Nicole Wilson You can be beautiful dressing however you want.
fightingfrenchfry that's not the point it's our religion and these women are choosing this religion and If a Muslim school did this no one would care
Actually since this is a school the parents are choosing to put their children in this school so it’s not the girl’s choice
thank you!!!
I was told at school that my ankles and shoulders were not allowed to be seen because the boys could get “too distracted.”
b m a t t a ankles???? Wtf
imma throw a chair
That’s literally the most stupid shit that I have ever heard about dress codes
WHO GETS DISTRACTED BY ANKLES
That’s fucking insane
I love ladylike but I highly disagree with the way this content was presented that i actually checked the comment section to see what other people “actually” thinks about this issue.
Z J same for sure
What do u mean?
Yes! I agree completely! Yes, this is an issue... But this video was not the right way to talk about it, and it was a little long winded
I think this video is directed perfectly you shouldnt be told what to wear on a day youll never get back that could make someone very shamed
This video was kinda stupid. ALMOST AS STUPID AS TELLING PEOPLE WHAT TO WEAR
It’d be different if it was a public school, but it’s a catholic school. Modesty is often a part of religion, as you pointed out and defended Muslim women for.
I went to a very liberal high school, and we had a dress code. Catholic, Muslim, Jedi, it doesn't matter. Dress codes are not just a religious thing. At my high school it was about fostering character development.
men don’t need dress codes for prom because their traditional “formal” is covered from head to toe.
not at all saying women need dress codes! just don’t like when people are like, “why don’t guys have dress codes?!” as if it has any correlation to gender.
tayietu g Generally dress codes are a normal thing in formal situations. I believe a boy wouldn't be considered dressed appropriately if he wore a t-shirt and sweatpants to prom. That's male dress code right there. It's not only about showing your body or not.
@@tie2481 The male gender has the equivalent to one rule in dress code, which is "Don't come naked". I get your point, but dress codes are directly attacking the female gender.
@@juanis8219 Unless a guy is a Drag Queen.
Also: I feel like Devin purposefully chose a rain poncho to make the situation seem more ridiculous instead of an actual poncho meant to be worn as clothes/an accessory. I know she's got to know the difference, she looked at the picture and can tell they're clearly different things.
How’s it feel? in the rain thing? You feel... you feel... you feel good? You feel... you feel preeetty? D’you feel aired out? No? Okay 🙃
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In reference to the short snipit about “modest fashion” in which photos of Muslim women and a video clip of a Buzzfeed video where Muslim girls shop for and alter prom dresses:
It seems as if ladylike is projecting that it is “ok” for Muslims to have standards for modesty and have a “shared interest” in it, but when a Catholic school has modesty expectations, it is not ok.
Including that in the video reads a little to funny to me.
This video is stupid and biased, but the point she was making about the Muslim women altering their prom dresses was that it was their choice to cover up more, or to cover up less. In the case of the Catholic school, the students do not have a choice in the matter. They MUST be covered 100% from knees to chest, with straps, and zero cleavage. However, because it is a private Catholic school all of the student's and their families literally signed up and paid for this. They chose this school, so in a sense they did have the choice to send kids to public school where the dress code might have been more permissive. It would be a different story if it were a public school.
I think she was pointing out the difference between dressing modestly of your own volition because of your religion vs dressing modestly by force because of a school your parents sent you to that you have no say in.
Daphne Smith - Agreed! The power of choice makes all the difference.
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Daphne Smith In my opinion your initial reply reads a bit biased, in the direction of the Catholic school, to be specific. I would personally assert that both Catholic (even broadened to Christian) and Muslim followers are encouraged to subscribe to a modest way of dressing. Whether that is enforced by parents or schools, it’s enforced. That said, it doesn’t make sense to me to project one as acceptable and one as offensive. That is, in my opinion.
“I’m not getting the interviews I want right now” well I mean that’s why interviews are a thing it’s to show different peoples views and not have them be biased
Rachel Withers what she means is that no one wants to say what they want to because it might be offensive
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They may have not been biased but they definitely weren’t taking it seriously, but everyone is like that. As long as it’s not your problem, you don’t care.
Well there's a difference between "different views" and "apathy" you took what she said completely out of context to prove a misbegotten point. She continued to say "people aren't really personalizing this issue". The people she interviewed didn't have an opposing view, they just didn't care. That's not beneficial to the premise of the video. This video is about whether it is ethically right to force young women to cover their bodies with a modesty poncho/ wrap when the same impositions are not applied to young men. Had the original interviewees held a "for poncho" stance, that would at least be beneficial, instead they didn't really seem to care one way or the other because it didn't affect them. Her issue was not a problem with different viewpoints but a problem with other peoples empathy. So she decided to make it more personal to them to break through that apathy and get an actual viewpoint.
She means she the interviewees aren't getting the message she's trying to get across. They took it like she chose to wear and wouldn't be forced to wear it.
This is a private religious school, so the rules are inevitably going to reflect their faith-based standards. With all the drama that's implied, I was actually surprised to see that they were allowed to wear strapless dresses. ALSO, not all "modest" dresses are "mother of the bride"!!!!
If you are a teenage boy and you can’t control yourself for a few hours even if you have a date. You probably shouldn’t be going to prom.
Ok, I agree people should have a choice and I would agree if it was a public school doing this; but it’s not, it’s a Catholic school, a religion known for enforcing modest clothes just like Islam. So, it’s not fair to support one religion over the other as Catholic schools enforce their religious beliefs into the curriculum. Again, if it was a public school where the separation of church and state exists, then it would be more of an issue.
I usually am one to be mostly all for arguing about some of the ridiculous rules that dress codes sometimes have, but I’m sorry I really disagree with this video.
I went to school that had similar regulations and had no problem with it. And I was a bit upset that you generalized all of them as “mother of the bride dresses”. I had followed similar rules and gotten a dress and really liked it.
It’s a Catholic Private school that just wants to encourage modesty. And it’s a private school they can enforce certain dress code rules. Plus they had wraps and shawls on hand. At my previous school they would just have you leave. So I think it’s nice that they provided stuff instead of making them leave.
Also, the girls are in high school, they mostly aren’t legal adults yet and I don’t think the dress code is that ridiculous. They aren’t asking you to hide your shoulders or legs entirely. (The whole shoulders are scandalous thing does irk me so I’m glad they didn’t do that) They mostly only don’t want girls showing any cleavage or really short dresses, which I think personally, is reasonable. I never believed they were trying to shame us for our bodies. I just thought they wanted us to be modest.
Also, at my school, boys had regulations as well. Their hair had to be cut appropriately, they had to wear dress shoes, and they had to wear a suit or tux that had nice pants. Etc. I’m sure if a guy, for whatever reason, showed up in weird dress shorts, athletic shoes, or broke a different regulation, they would probably be asked to leave as well.
Ok rant done. I’m sorry I’m just really irritated right now.
One more thing. They didn’t make the students wear a flipping rain poncho. That was way over exaggerating
I completely agree with you. But I also think that in the dress code that was mentioned in the video in regards to the specific school was a little weird about the whole inch above the knee thing. I’m not saying that they should let slits go super high or anything I just think that where one considers the joint of the knee to be is a kind of questionable thing
Samantha Collins I agree that was definitely a weird way to phrase it
Well said!
I don't think it was a very strict dress code anyway. No midriff, low backs or super short skirts seems very reasonable. A lot of things were allowed, like strapless or halter style dresses, which is more than a lot of schools let girls wear.
I cannot stand my school but I'm so glad they dont really care about dress code. My prom dress totally would not have passed these standards, and my normal wardrobe wouldn't either
Helena VanNatter it’s funny that even in your dp you have bare shoulders :D
Reeta Tassberg and the back of my dress was cut out with lines of fabric going across. So it wasnt totally bare but I still exposed my back (oh no!)
Yay for modesty being a PERSONAL CHOICE, in the 21st effing century.
While I totally get your point and the statements you're making are totally valid, you gotta remember that this is a Catholic school. They're most likely backing these dress code rules with religious beliefs. While I don't necessarily agree with their dress code or the modesty poncho, I do think you should take into consideration that they are enforcing these rules because of their religious beliefs.
Religion is not a dress code. I do not remember a shoulder blade covering commandment or a edict from Jesus on prom dresses, so stuff that argument. The dress code of a religious school is totally about the administration which absolutely can and should be challenged by the female student body if they chose to do so.
I get that. People have for sure twisted what the Bible says. I will wholehearted agree with that. However, it does say in the Bible that women should dress MODESTLY. Yes, that has been twisted and used against women for a long time. I'm not saying I agree with it, but if you asked the administration, I pretty sure they would bring up something about the Bible and the beliefs behind it. It's a Catholic school so of course they're going to back their dress code with religion.
I am sure that the bible is what they would try to use. (heck I went to in summers) But the bible says to dress "modestly" without gold or jewels. Least that is the only reference I can recall. Modest is a form of perception and I do not think for example having your back exposed or cleavage isn't Modest. I just think they should be challenged on it b/c I do no think they have much a religious based leg to stand on. I don't care for dress code in the first place but I really do not care for people using the bible as a reason. It makes me think all the MORE reason to challenge it.
I agree. I just think this place shouldn't be slandered as hard bc it is a private Catholic school. They're using "religious" reasons for their dress code. It's more irritating to me when public schools do something like this. Public school truly have no reason for enforcing such a strict dress code. At least a private Catholic school has a "reason" whether you agree with their reasoning or not.
Perhaps but unfortunately you have to press everything hard anymore to get movement. If the females at the school want change and are asking for it, and this is the way to get it done, then that is where I toss my weight.
So you want a 17 year old girl to show up naked or what? and what then? - suing some men for looking at an underage girl? *buzzfeed bs at it's finest!*
I think the reason why males don't have overly onerous dress code stipulations for black tie style events is because a dinner jacket (tuxedo to Americans, and even a lounge suit) covers every part of the male body. The equivalent for women is generally accepted to be a floor length gown. In the UK, for example, most women in the UK will wear a floor length gown with a shawl draped over their shoulders as is required by this particular school.
I agree that a person should be able to wear what they are comfortable wearing but a black tie dress code, or a dress code mimicking black tie, has certain requirements. A dance will tend to have a black tie dress code so I can't help but feel that a mountain has been made out of a molehill.
Dress codes have been around for years....like seriously years!
I personally believe that requesting modesty at a school prom is completely fine. I'm sure that in their school handbook they are very similar rules. I think it's completely rational and normal for a school to require modesty in a young public environment. Also this isn't just about young boys and adult teachers being comfortable. It can also make the people around them feel uncomfortable as well. I know personally at my prom there were a lot of things that made me feel very uncomfortable, even as a woman, I was uncomfortable seeing very deep neck lines on women where they were showing a lot of their cleavage, and honestly prom is a formal occasion, where people shouldn't be wearing dresses that are shorter than their knee, it's a formal occasion where you should be wearing a long dress. The mid drift thing can be a little much, depending on how much midriff is showing.
Also, I'm sure that with the rules of their school regarding men's modesty rules still apply as well. If a man was to wear shear clothing, or overly baggy clothing that caused everyone to see their undergarments it probably wouldn't be aloud
With most men's suits and attire they would wear to prom there really isn't much to have to have rules around, girls outfits are however very versatile. If this was a public dance, there's no reason to have a strict dress code. However this is in a school. It makes sense to have rules. Also it's like they completely disregard the fact that they weren't actually going to put them in swimming Pancho's, they were giving them shells. Which can be very tasteful, but I do understand that that would be very annoying, but they could be just sending people home so
Ok but that was a rain poncho and looks nothing like the ponchos in the photos. Everyone who answered "water park" was referring to the waterproof properties of the clothes, not to how they look.
kikibirdball but that was the closest thing she had to show and support what she was saying.
Julia Whited but it doesn't support what she's saying. It distracts from their intended function
It's an analogy. What she was actually going for, was the situation she was in. Ponchos were used to cover up the skin when you're not in an appropriate dresscode. She used a raincoat because it's sunny and hot there, so she used that to express the situation similar with the prom thing.
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Alternate title: Devin Rants About Modesty Ponchos
It's one thing to dress sexy. It's another to dress sexy at 15, 16, 17 or 18. It's just about being modest at a school-related function where some of those dresses with plunging cleavage necklines (for example) aren't school appropriate. They're students; not celebrities. I usually agree with the Ladylike women of adult age (yes, I know 18 is a legal adult) but as a teenager, men and women both should dress like teenagers.It doesn't mean students can't be creative and express themselves but there has to be a limit.
I ' ve never disliked a video before. I get where she is coming from, though I would have expected a more objective view on such a sensitive matter. It doesn't make it any more serious when you exaggerate and make fun of the topic.
Delilah B. YES THANK YOU. This was just an excuse to make a bigger issue out of it. Like, the school even redacted their original claim to something more reasonable. Go talk to the actual school if you truly think it's regulations are unjust instead of just making an exaggerated video complaining about it. This did absolutely nothing.
I just want to say that although it isn’t right to shame girls for wearing what they want, this is a Catholic school and they have the right to enforce their dress code at prom, even though I do think the restrictions are far too in-depth. I live in Michigan and I have friends who go to Divine Child, and I just want to say that the students do follow this dress code regularly. Also, I’ve been told that people are attacking the teacher who created the idea and made the Pinterest board, but she’s actually a very sweet woman and doesn’t deserve what’s coming to her. I understand the upset surrounding it and I don’t think it’s entirely right but I don’t think it should be such a public issue seeing as it is a Catholic school exercising a common dress code.
Additionally I think it’s also a bit of an unnecessary exaggeration of the issue to wear an actual poncho when interviewing people. It should’ve been more accurate to the ones shown
she had to go out to interview buzzfeed cuz no one on the streets cares
(i do think the whole dress code poncho thing is ridic tho)
meowismfulbeauty I agree
I enjoy the odd Ladylike video and love the Ladylike crew but this one really falls short of the mark and just comes across as sensationalist. If someone attends a school that subscribes to Catholic values, there is an understanding that Catholic principles and practices will prevail in teaching and conduct - including ones that pertain to modest attire. If this proves too restrictive for someone's sensibilities, they can always opt out. Having said that, the clothes selected as 'approved' were actually tasteful and age-appropriate. Denigrating the school's selections by labeling them 'Mother of the Bride' is plain rude and frankly, a little 'Mean Girls-esque'. Is that what you'd say to a teenager who actually dressed modestly by choice? Then why say it at all? While it's fine for any woman to dress as she pleases, it's also unfair to bash a school and its teachers for not fitting into a mold of your own creation.
she did address the choice opinion btw
Agreed
Okay but there are many other average schools around the world that aren’t catholic and still have a very ridiculous guidelines for the way students should or shouldn’t dress... although this case may have been less effective in the sense that it’s a catholic school, it was a wake up call for many other cases like this one within this topic
@@thespecialpotato2854 It's not a ridiculous guideline and even if they are not religion based schools, they still can have dresscodes. It also usually takes account of the environment around the school premises and the culture of the society.
The school can decide the dresscode to be implemented to their students and it may also he for safety reasons. If people dislike it, they can always choose another school for their children.
"well, for modesty"
-Devin 2018
This video was honestly a train wreck
Emmy2002 Year late comment: Agreed, only thing of this video I liked, whatever Joyce said and Kristen at the end.
I think it is a great idea...Prom is not a disco bar ...You should look respectful...If you do not to follow the dress code you can organise your own party, and you can wear whatever you want...
or not wear at all. At school events, you have to follow some rules, and when its CATHOLIC school..
My girl Joyce!!!! True that, babes. Awesome message. :)
I dunno, I mean this is a Catholic school and it's already pressing a lot of religion into the students attending -- and in some of these religions - girls cover up and we have to respect that. Even if it's hot, if some person has strong faith in their religion and it practices "dress modestly" they do so and suffer -for god-
I mean wasn't BuzzFeed all about respecting other people's culture and their beliefs no matter now strange?
Jenny Pill yes but when you're being controlled and constantly taught as a female that your body is just a sexual object and nothing else, something needs to be said. I honestly think that it's going too far. This is the children of our future and they are constantly shamed. How well do you think that will bode for their futures? It's not about just respecting people's religion and culture - if they want to cover up then fine, but they shouldn't be forced to just because they say that men cannot stop themselves from temptation. If that was so, then why are the men not being taught to resist temptation by their own selves. this video was talking about more than that. How would you feel if people started treating you this way in your own life? How would you feel if people are telling you that you cannot express yourself in your own style and trying to make you conform just like everyone else. Will you be unique? No. No you won't be. If you want to live like that then be my guest. But the point is not to make girls feel as if their bodies are nothing more than objects.
Inspiredbyalicel * PrEaCh
Also, it’s not a plastic poncho! It’s just a felt shawl, who cares?
Inspiredbyalicel * yee but like she said it's a Catholic school and their dress code is due to their religion. If it was a public school then I get the outrage. It's like being angry they make students pray at Catholic school. You can choose not to go there and not to follow their rules.
Inspiredbyalicel * the point is that they aren't being forced too. The students who go there are Catholic and I would assume believe in the church's teachings so they are literally following their own religious choice to go there.
If they wanted freedom to dress as they please they'd go to public school
This is so saddening.
The CONTEXT of the rule and this school’s reason for this rule has been ignored and this “flaming” approach to tackling the problem of freedom of expression and women feeling beautiful wearing what they want to wear is SO IMMATURE it makes me upset!
This is a catholic school. They’re based on biblical values which honour modesty! It’s a value in the bible, and once again, just as your argument is based on choice (for women to be able to wear whatever they want) , it was the student’s choice to attend that school as well. When you enrol yourself into an institute that wants to honour certain values, you have to obey the rules that come with the institution! I’m not undermining your argument either. It’s important for women to not be ashamed of their bodies and YES! There should be freedom of choice to wear what we want. But in this context, being upset with the school and trying to advocate for these girls rights (even if they made the choice to be there) is an unfair playing field because you’re not taking the context into consideration.
They made the choice to be in a school where these things are valued. It’s not fair to the institution at all; and I feel sorry for the school because everyone is jumping on this bandwagon which promotes hatred and lack of understanding or comprehensive thinking and jumping into conclusions. Trying to manipulate the situation to advocate for what you believe is right isn’t the way to go. I love the show, I love this positivity but I can’t stand the disregard you have for respecting the values some people/ institutions hold.
No hate at all,
But this is reference to a Catholic school. As a Christian myself, we are taught that our bodies are supposed to be kept holy. That means we should be wearing long pants at least and proper shoes, along with no plunging necklines or croptops. It is almost the same as Muslim women having to cover their bodies and wear a Hijab. It is a CATHOLIC school and just like attending church it is known to be slightly more conservative (no one said to dress unfashionably!! Conservatism is not always unfashionable people!) Also, parents who send their kids to school most likely already dedicated their lives to Christianity, and it IS KNOWN that conservatism (especially in church and schools) should be followed.
Secondly, on the streets, if you specified it was a Catholic school, most people would understand, just as they understand Muslim girls wear Hijabs.
Also,
Christianity does not teach ANYONE that they should be ashamed of the bodies they have, because we are made in the image of God. We are taught to love our bodies and protect it, and save it for our husbands/wives.
You may want to argue that self-expression should be allowed, be it low necklines or bare backs, and as Devin highlighted that limiting girls to certain clothes will teach girls that it means boys cant control themselves and that we should be the ones to be covering up, but really this statement is only partly justifiable, but it's really the intention behind wearing certain clothes. Do you just like wearing them? Or are you showing off skin to attract boys etc? It's hard to tell the difference, so sticking to what the Bible teaches us is the way to go, and by no means are we forcing any of this on non-believers.
All love Ladylike! Much respect, but next time just be weary of what info you leave out, and carry out some basic research too. ♥️
Alexandria Tan ❤❤❤❤
Alexandria Tan as Christian myself I agree with on somethings and not other. I grew up in Christian house hold and at least once a week I would get into a fight with my mom about what I wear most times ending in tears. And to this day I have yet to see what was wrong with my choices most of the time the argument would be about how much of my upper chest could show(not even cleavage), tank tops things lacking covering the back and mid drift. To this day I maintain my virginity keeping myself holy but wear what I want. Which I think is modest. It’s not the faith that they are talking about. It’s the forcing of that decision onto females especially when the same standards are not being put on men. God made in this body he made every characteristic of my personality along with every other human but yet the way he made me is something I need to hide and be ashamed of. I love myself and He loves me. But how for fitting an outfit is is going to put a rift between us? I know that argument defiantly put a rift between my mom and I. He made us he gave of us personal choice but yet we need to be ashamed of his creation to me that doesn’t make sense
Alexandria Tan Yes ❤
So true! And the idea that girls should expose their bodies in order to express themselves seems to be 100 times more sexist than a reasonable dress code.
kitkatkay i dont disagree with you! especially now when people are becoming more aware about how expression through clothes etc shouldnt be labelled as sexual, however this is more than just a 'reasonable dress code'. it's following the bible and frankly you cant bend the words of the Lord. if it bothers anyone in the school itself, then they have the choice to leave. its obviously a more conservative and stricter school than most. i too think that all people should be able to express themselves, even if it is showing skin. however that is like saying you think muslims should show more skin as well. it's just following religion and being obedient to your God.
It’s a catholic school..... I mean what do you expect? Would you wear a skimpy dress to church? I mean in a reg school it’s not cool to have a strict dress code.... but it’s basically church
I love ladylike and I thoroughly believe in a woman's right to autonomy and freedom of expression, HOWEVER, I really hated the way this video was framed and presented. This is a private, catholic institution. Though I do believe that there is much that needs to be reevaluated in the Catholic church (being catholic myself), I don't believe that it is fair to talk about the topic in this way under these circumstances. I don't believe there would be this amount of upset from buzzfeed if it were an Islamic or Jewish institution. You enter the setting understanding they carry certain beliefs and that they are shared by the institution as a whole. This would be very different at a public high school. I believe the argument would be significantly better and more valid. I am also annoyed by the misleading representation of the "ponchos". This was honestly done to be more dramatic and shocking. I'm really disappointed in Devin. There are better points to be made when it comes to a woman's right to her body and autonomy.
Poncho or a blue trash bag. Oh modesty when it is see through?
Oh I exaggerate? Maybe you should look up what modesty clothing is that commonly known as clothes that cover up. Clothes that are transparent are not modesty. If it was the modesty would be walking around with nothing on.
Oh don't tell me they call leggings modesty clothing too when you can see everything showing through.
Awakened Spirit She Literally Said That They Are Meant To Cover Up. But For Choice Is Why She Did It. So Suck It Up And Stop Trying To Be Smart. But Your Not Because She Said Why She Whore The Clear Poncho.
Lady like had 0 idea how to do this right they just made them selfs look dumb.
it was never a poncho, merely a shawl that the school wanted girls who were too bare to wear, and the intent of the original note and article of clothing was to emphasize the schools rules so as to avoid the "embarassment" of being given a shawl to cover up with.
She was wearing a poncho for a point. The ones the school would hand out would obviously not be see through. She's wearing it to experience wearing one for a day, not wearing an exact match. Why so nit-picky?
Ok I'm not religious or anything but I'm just gonna say... she said that this rule is from a catholic school. It's their own beliefs, women are sacred in catholicism. They want them to be modest. It's a private school. What about when Muslim women have to wear a hijab? I don't see buzzfeed ever criticizing that. Why is it only ok to criticize a Christian religion?
attack helicopter but I've never read anywhere in the bible that's against shoulders and knees, have you? Maybe I'm missing something?
Teh Ribbons it's just their belief. Every religious party interprets the Bible in a different way, that's why you have so many different types of Christianity. The school wants to uphold their tradition and values and clearly prom is no different. I don't know if it says explicitly that showing knees and shoulders is sinful, but clearly modesty in religion is a common theme, and if this is the standard thst they want to hold their students to, so be it.
When people send their children to private religious schools, they are often doing so to encourage certain values such as modesty. They are paying for that service. What position do you expect a private religious school to take? "Let the children dress as sexy and revealing as they want! It's their choice." The parents didn't send their kids to a Catholic school so that they could be sexy at prom, or be in an environment which promotes looking sexy. Besides that, why attack the individual teacher who was trying to help her students pick out dresses via pinterest? Wow, what a disappointing video, LadyLike.
D Murphy AGREED!
At my public high school, Im a girl who plays lacrosse. At practice, we are required to wear at least a short sleeve shirt, no tank tops. We have to wear these thick practice jerseys that are opaque and also VERY hot. However, no matter how hot it is, we have to wear our t shirts under the jersey, all because our bra straps are not to be seen! Boys lacrosse is meanwhile wearing no shirts at all and having no problem. It’s absolutely ridiculous how sensitive they are about seeing our sports bras, I mean, I might as well just not wear a bra and then there’s no bra straps to be seen!! There, problem solved.😋